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>when you've been on /v/ for so long, you see nu-/v/ denounce MML3

>>15731705

Mighty No. 9 done right, meaning, it's not good regardless.

>>15731696

Its one hell of a world we live in

>>15731696

>You've lived long enough to see /v/ develop the shit taste they once claimed to be against

>>15731696

I am so fucking sick of Komi-san. Crops are everywhere so I thought I'd give it a chance and dropped it hard once I got to the "No one knows their gender!" tumblr-tier character a little bit in. Even before that, it showed nothing that differentiated it from any other high school romance manga. It reminds me of Nisekoi in that it's both popular and shit.

Sage for off-topic.

>>15731360

I have a friend who was so angry about it being canceled that he snapped his 3DS in half.

He also backed Mighty No.9

Personally all I've played of legends was the N64 version.

I enjoyed it quite a bit.

I'd put it in my top 10 N64 games despite being a crossplat.

For MML3, having a game where you aren't actually playing Megaman does sound moderately retarded.

The main character reminds me of Axl from Megaman X 7.

I have never played any other Megaman X game, but I played that one because it was one of the few games available one time at my local blockbuster.

I think MML3 would probably have been a decent game.

From Capcom alone the 3DS has had 3 Monster Hunter games come out in the west that all have circle pad pro support.

More adventure game wise the 3DS had OoT and MM remakes by a company called Grezzo who went on to make a game called Ever Oasis that is practically a Kingdom Hearts knock-off.

I think the technology is there especially for a noticeably polygonal looking game.

I think the only hope people have of a MML3 is Red Ash, but as far as I can tell that is 100% vaporware.

>>15731849

>>15731871

Can any of you go into depth as to why the game's bad?

>multiple faggots jump to say MM11 is shit

>not a single one of them can say why

>>15733401

I said why.

>mfw every contrarian faggot comes out to call any game shit but doesn't explain why

Seriously, who keeps bringing in these faggots?

>>15733482

I know a place where you can fit in.

>>>/cuckchan/

>>>/reddit/

>>>/outside/

>>15731360

I lament Capcom not striking when the iron was hot. I figure MML3 going to hell started with two things;

1) They wrote themselves into a corner

2) The PS2 was already looming on the horizon and raised uncomfortable questions about releasing with obsolete technology or breaking up the trilogy across different platforms.

And as time drags on there becomes a 3) how do you make up for all this lost time in addition to making the jarring leap to modern technology (Chrono series suffers from this so Chrono Break never ever.) The expectations increase with time and there's just no way to live up to them (see Duke Nukem Forever)

At this point we're probably best off with remake/reboot and then building back up to where we were- although I don't trust modern Capcom enough to do this right either.

I fucking despise Capcom for killing Megaman but somehow I'm still around because gems like Dragon's Dogma happen. I just want release from these mixed feelings and either get what I want or for them to actually crash and burn. fuck

Mega Man Legends is not Mega Man.

>>15732020

That happens to every series that has nice reaction images. People who never read it will just post it everywhere. Happened with Nagatoro/Umaru/Hentai gasmfaces

I wanted to cuddle Aero so hard.

>>15733391

Is this bait?

>>15748300

I hate the shit out of the whole "IT WAS DR WILY ALL ALONG GUYS" revelation in X5, I think it's stupid and really discredits the series' major antagonist. But I'm not allowed to think that because the lore junkies say I'm wrong at every step.

Like the concept of Sigma not meeting with Dr. Wily, but instead following up on Dr. Wily's work because of an unhealthy obsession with defeating X and Zero, discovering some choice information about Zero and using that new information to not only do all the weird cyberspace crap that happens, but also try to make Zero his minion by way of "awakening" him.

>>15750067

>the lore junkies say I'm wrong at every step.

The development notes say you're wrong at every step.

>This piece is an official character relationship chart which – according to a now-deleted tweet from Mega Man 5's planner Ichiro Mihara – was written between Mega Man 5 and X1's development in 1993.

http://www.rockman-corner.com/2018/02/mega-man-x1-internal-design-document.html

>>15750156

I say that that chart's alleged date of creation is wrong. Half of that chart would be pointless if Zero wasn't brought back after the events of X1, so it was no doubt made during X2's development along with the new design for Zero, since Inafune decided that the character would have a more permanent role in the series, source: Mega Man X Official Complete Works.

But to be fair, trying to pin the series down continuity-wise is a mess of it's own right because there are points where there simply are no answers.

>>15731360

>>15731696

Are we going to forget how bad Capcom was at this time (and still are in some ways). They were crazy anti-consumer and could barely even make a good game outside of Monster Hunter. They were also listening to (((Inafune))) and making western devs make all their shit. If MML3 was made, it would be completely souless and would definitely have tons of DLC.

>>15731360

I fucking loved Megaman Legends. It was miles ahead of Megaman and Megaman X just because it had a plot and story at all, and wasn't just "here's 8 more random robots and guess who's back?"

But more than anything, we need those two. A blue-eyed indian and a slim, fit aryan girl in revealing clothing. We need more characters that piss off people by being nice to look at.

Allow me to blogpost:

A lot of the love and fanbase for Legends/DASH series is due to how the world is structured and is interacted. Considering the Miyazaki whimsy feel, you could consider it "comfy" as you get to know characters and backstory– whether hero, villain, or NPC. It's one of those issues that it deviates a bit too much from the original series and, let's not mince words, the tank controls do take getting used to and doesn't have that tightness of the 2D games. It's a game about exploring and learning, piecing together the environment and where you'll end up next while dealing with rather cute designs. It's an aesthetic that you only get with some games, hence why CyberConnect2 were willing to helm the project for Capcom since they've made similar sort of games akin to Legends like Tail Concerto and Solatorobo. With the last title being a cliffhanger unanswered for over a decade, you damn right fans were itching for more and sour that they never got it. Now as for what was shown and mentioned, the (paid) Prototype demo was looking to be close to that Japanese-only early demo of Legends 2 bundled with Misadventures of Tron Bonne and Legends 2 PSP port. The L2JPN demo had a few mini-missions to handle, pretty much all exclusive with new areas aside from the pig collecting area and Shu. This lead to a fight with Tron to save Roll. The Legends 3 Prototype looked to have these sort of tutorial missions but be left a bit more open a la sandbox titles and doled out more story to fit as a prologue for the main game. Legends 3 probably would have had you play as Barrett AND Volnutt in either mandatory missions or switch out like X8 with unique powers. At the very least, it would have been SOMETHING rather than current Capcom just sticking Aero in cameo hell for gacha games.

As for MM11, let me state that it's like the latter Game Boy titles in level of quality. It serves its purpose in showing that Capcom can make a good Mega Man game without Inafune whatsoever. The fact that they had some veterans for some of the classic games overseeing and plenty of fans on the project helped. I know it's a low bar to cross, but considering that it runs better than Mighty No.9 with better (if a tad corridorish) stage layouts, weapons, and a main gimmick that's optional if you're good at the game is commendable. It's sad to suggest that having a technically-sound game nowadays is something to be lauded, but here we are. I still prefer Mega Man 9 over it, but there's no shame being in the GB 4-5 territory and priced as such. For now, at least. If Mega Man 12 doesn't wow as hard, then we have a problem.

>middle girl in first pick would be considered offensive nowadays and would cause no end of soycuck and hag screeching.

>>15732095

>There's no such thing as good group-think.

paradoxically that statement is merely propaganda that you where taught at a young age. A shallow sentiment that is so commonplace in the neoliberal zeitgeist that it's essentially a from of group think.

You know what we need instead?

A Demon's Crest 2 / Gargoyle's Quest 4 with top tier 2D spritework.

>>15758279

>Legends was a 3D metroidvania game that succeeds sotn in everyway but controls and gets no respect for it.

Lets go over MML as a metroid style adventure

Did heavy world build before prime and shits on sotn on this section

Lore of the world pulls you in by pacing who megaman is very well. Never felt drowned in pointless lore or that anything was really missing. Sotn can't touch this spot since lore is almost non existence other than feeding off future games or past.

MML controls take A LOT to get used too. Shittier than most metroid/metroidvania games.

Weapon progression is both rewarding and not overpowered. Takes time investment to master the weapons of mml. Lvl grind sotn ftw.

Level/map layout of mml doesn't hold your hand and you can easily get lost like a greenhorn adventure. Most importantly a new player invested in mml deep dungeon diving will feel true fear since there are almost no saves inside and you can literaly face an enemy that will thrash you in the next unknown room. Real back tracking is required to get out. Sotn is shit in the fear of the unknown area and real memorization of the map is not required.

MML is an under appreciated metroidvania game.

>>15759035

I wouldn't consider Legends a Metroidvania as it feels more like a Zelda title– or even something like Mystical Ninja 64 in that they both emerged prior to Ocarina of Time. The underground portions play out like Zelda dungeons, moreso in the sequel as they play off environmental themes. Something Legends also did first before it became a big thing was having a comm voice pop in for banter and warnings. Hearing Roll mention that she's going to cook something for you and have it ready by the time you climbed back out of those water ruins is heartwarming.

>>15732020

Same, it's fucking everywhere and it ain't as good as some people like to exaggerate also it's funny as hell when every fan goes ape shit at lewds of her it's basically Kanna all over again with the death threats and blackmail if someone even dares do lewd cosplays. So let the lewds flow so we can see more normalfags losing their shit on a fictional character.

>>15758307

>tfw she was my most wanted pick but lost to a generic red head

>She no longer has to suffer a fate worst than death by Crapcom but also not having soyboys and femenazis making shit up just for "gud goys" points

At least she can live in the memories what it could have been than a cash grab and being used as a soyboy excuse for "white washing"

>>15761723

I thought it may of been a zelda-ish game but the game fits closer to metroidvania than anything. The player is limited to 1 subweapon and that weapon could be useful for half the dungeon but be pretty useless soon enough. Than the boss fights are closer to a castlevania fight or metroid than zelda. Unlike a zelda game where the new subweapon introduced is crucial to the boss fight there is no benefit like that on mml. Than there is the dungeon of mml1 where near all entrances are interconnected. Meaning mml1 dungeons are technically 1 big super dungeon like super metroid. Than there are no real shortcuts out of the deep dive. Either you are a vet and know where the nearest exit is at from knowing your tools or you are green and leave the exact same way you came in.

The overworld is closer to Zelda but the game mechanics takes from metroid and castlevania.

>>15774470