6315f4 No.15702235
You'll cowards don't even play Astyanax
17c5b7 No.15702237
>>15702226
Vidya didn't get good until gen 4.
0e7f1a No.15702260
Kick Master is actually a top tier game. I reccomend it.
Hint: level up at least once every stage. Took me 3 playthroughs to realize this. >>15702237
Wrong. Git gud.
2b3b82 No.15702276
>LoZ 2
>Metal Gears shitty NES port
>Festers Quest
>Silver Surfer
>Castlevania 2
All trash.
d46450 No.15702278
>>15702276
lol, suckin' that avgn cock huh?
2b3b82 No.15702282
>>15702278
Not sure what you're talking about, but these games were already considered trash before Youtube even existed you underage niggerfaggot.
17c5b7 No.15702284
>>15702260
Gen 3 was still too mired in shit-tier kiked arcade design, it wasn't good.
912e32 No.15702286
e7e4b3 No.15702294
So how do I get good in WarFrogs?
0e7f1a No.15702295
>>15702274
I saw it you complete retard. That's why i'm talking about it.
And Trump's one of the greatest shabbos goys to ever walk this earth. He belongs in the oven.
>>15702284
Whatever, it's your opinion. I love gen 3 games.
>>15702286
Here's a better one
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/1032/
2b3b82 No.15702302
>>15702286
Does it remove the grinding for hearts in the beginning, put some enemies/bosses in those empty castles and deliver an actual final bossfight with multiple phases?
0e7f1a No.15702311
5efba0 No.15702318
8db67a No.15702327
>>15702226
Athena, Mighty Bomb Jack and Karnov were good too.
2b3b82 No.15702335
I'd say
>remove all the trash games
>remove all the ports and games that have better versions on different platforms
>switch Super Mario Bros.2 with Doki Doki Panic
>add some fucking Japanese games like pic related
and then you got yourself a good list.
0e7f1a No.15702337
Good list OP btw. Even if it lacks some jap exclusives. New Ghostbusters 2 should be in.
6315f4 No.15702367
>>15702252
What is reading comprehension?
d46450 No.15702368
>>15702335
Hey buddy, did you know this isn't a Famicom or FDS list. I bet you didn't know that.
2b3b82 No.15702380
>>15702368
NES/Famicom same thing. The only reason the NES looks different than the Famicom is, because of marketing reasons.
0d1944 No.15702391
It's an unlicensed bootleg, but I'll be damned if it isn't one of the most fun bootlegs I've played, the game is completely original as far as I'm concerned, only having slight inspiration from Kirby. Every other game I could think to talk about is already covered in that chart. Little Samson (Lickle) and Gimmick are especially fun.
>>15702276
>implying fester's quest isn't a dope-ass game
>le zelda 2 is bad meme
>playing castlevania 2 without the manual
Your only argument here is Silver Surfer and even then it's not a bad game, just impossibly hard. More importantly, LJN isn't even as bad as you think, they're a publisher not a developer.
d46450 No.15702401
>>15702391
>LJN isn't even as bad as you think
Cygnus Destroyer, is that you?
2b3b82 No.15702402
>>15702391
>>implying fester's quest isn't a dope-ass game
It's a sluggish, boring piece of shit.
>>le zelda 2 is bad meme
<look mom! I added the word "meme" to his opinion that'll show him!
This is cuckchan-tier.
>>playing castlevania 2 without the manual
The cryptic text is by far not the only thing wrong about Castlevania 2: Soymans Quest.
46511b No.15702409
>>15702226
You have put half of the NES games there are. This is hardly a recommendation list.
0e7f1a No.15702436
>>15702401
He's right actually. They made some decent games.
0d1944 No.15702441
>>15702401
Uhh… No? _SHIT, I'VE BEEN FOUND OUT_
>>15702402
>It's a sluggish, boring piece of shit.
>shitting on sunsoft
I'd argue it's deliberately paced, the game is fairly short and there is still a lot of fun to be had with it. And you can't deny the music is kickass.
>This is cuckchan-tier
You still didn't give me any evidence as to why Zelda 2 is a bad game, bad sequel maybe, but not a bad game. It's not flawless, sure. You have to realize back then sequel was a vague term and it was normal for sequels to be entirely different games just using the same world, hence Mario 2.
>argues about cryptic messages
>complains about a game less cryptic than it's predecessor
If you're going to call all of these games bad then Zelda 1 is a bad game.
>slow text
I didn't mind those because I often play video games with snacks. It gave me an excuse to reach for food instead of pausing. I think the text being slow helped a bit in the atmospheric department. At least Castlevania 2 had that going for it, it's atmosphere and environments were on point. You have to imagine the speed of the textbox matching the speed of the sun setting or rising.
2b3b82 No.15702490
>>15702441
>You still didn't give me any evidence as to why Zelda 2 is a bad game
It's like they took everything from other games(random encounters from turn-based JRPGS, a bad copy of Faxanadus which is a great game by the way combat that feels like a chore compared to Faxanadu somehow, Simons Quests information gathering from towns people) and just mixed them together. These things aren't meant to be combined like steak and kechup. It's bad. So fucking bad and anyone played it knows this including the developers.
>If you're going to call all of these games bad then Zelda 1 is a bad game.
LoZ isn't cryptic.
>I didn't mind those
And what about this >>15702302 ?
56a4c8 No.15702498
>>15702490
If LOZ isn't cryptic then Z2 isn't either. If anything, Z2 is less cryptic because the townspeople are more helpful than the random cave dwellers in LOZ's overworld.
And Z2 had better combat than Faxanadu, by far, being faster paced and more responsive with more options.
0e7f1a No.15702534
Where are Wizards and Warriors (one of the best early NES games) and M.C. Kids?
0d1944 No.15702540
>>15702490
>LoZ isn't cryptic.
>bomb random walls you aren't told which ones
>burn random bushes you aren't told which ones
>move random gravestone you aren't told which one
>use the raft at a random point you aren't told which one
>there is no clue to push blocks in dungeons, it just happens and then becomes common knowledge
>"eastern most peninsula is the key" doesn't mean anything
>death mountain is trial and error
>get warp whistle mostly seen as utility
>required to get into a dungeon but you wouldn't have figured that out unless you're warping nonstop
>getting the bands and rings
The dungeons aren't too cryptic, but the overworld is a mess. If Zelda only had it's overworld, it would be a bad game.
>LoZ2 had bad combat
Granted, I didn't like the leveling up aspect and would've rather prefer increasing items like heart containers and whatnot but the combat isn't bad. If you're going to argue Zelda 2 is bad, then combat is honestly one of the best parts about it and something even others who hate it will agree upon. Zelda 2's combat is far superior to Zelda 1's wonky as fuck stabbing combat.
If someone were to play Zelda 2 or Zelda 1 for the first time without any prior knowledge or awareness the series existed, I think they would prefer Zelda 2. It requires much less time to be invested and isn't as trial and error.
>And what about this
Again, Castlevania 2 really excels in the atmosphere. And it's only fitting that some of the countryside castles remain abandoned. If monsters came about one day I'd hardly think they occupy every castle ever built, even for a particular area.
2b3b82 No.15702579
>>15702498
I never said LoZ 2 is cryptic. I was referring to Castlevania 2. In LoZ 2 99% of the time the towns people don't have anything imporant to say anyways.
>Z2 had better combat than Faxanadu
Opinion.
>being faster paced and more responsive
Faxanadu is way faster.
>with more options.
Thats a lie.
>Faxanadu
Weapons: dagger, magical rod, long sword, giant blade and dragon slayer
Armor: leather armor, studded mail, full plate and battle suit
Shields: small shield, large shield, magic shield and battle helmet
Magic: 5 different spells
>LoZ 2
Sword and a shield. Oh, and you can turn into a fairy.
>>15702540
>I want handholding
Soy.
5f0d1e No.15702589
>millennials
>willing to get fucked like tools by artificial difficulty for hours in soulsborne
>drop a NES hard game after 5 minutes because it's not worth it
Graphics, franchise and retro cred is the reason why you stick to a game that berates you. It's got nothing to do with your taste. The very same process why game reviewers only ever bash games when they're obscure japanese titles. At least, obscure for them.
0d1944 No.15702592
>>15702579
>Soy.
>implying I like later Zelda games
There's a big gap between cryptic and handholding.
32ea36 No.15702594
>>15702589
>Dodge Souls
>artificial difficulty
Just because you have the reaction time of a geriatric doesn't mean the game is hard.
52c52c No.15702598
>>15702226
>Lunar Pool
>Shatterhand
>Snake Rattle N Roll
>Darkwing Duck
>Felix the Cat
>TMNT Tournament Fighters
My nigga
c9c4b0 No.15702601
>>15702402
>>15702391
I actually like Castlevania II, but even with the redaction version the holy water mechanic is undefendable.
5f0d1e No.15702604
>>15702594
>artificial difficulty
>soulsfag 1: it's not difficult at all!
>soulsfag 2: it's real, not artificial!
Without fail the idiots try deception and end up proving the argument right
040382 No.15702605
Where the fuck are Blaster Master and Sweet Home?
040382 No.15702606
>>15702276
Silver Surfer and LOZ 2 are great though.
711332 No.15702608
>>15702606
>silver surfer
The only good thing about that game is the music.
0d1944 No.15702610
>>15702601
Oh yeah, no, I agree the Redacted version is way much better in every regard. But it's downright stupid to call the original version bad by any means.
5f0d1e No.15702611
>>15702402
Castlevania 2 is only ever attacked because of a 15yo youtube video by a complete loser. You are no longer a child, stop learning stupid lessons
d27593 No.15702623
>>15702540
>he wants single-pixel indications of where to burn trees in a pre-internet game running at 256x240 resolution
How small is your peepee?
56a4c8 No.15702626
>>15702579
>>Faxanadu
>Weapons: dagger, magical rod, long sword, giant blade and dragon slayer
Every single weapon is a straight upgrade to the previous weapon. And the magic rod just increases magic damage dealt (and the pendant actually reduces damage done due to a programming error).
>Armor: leather armor, studded mail, full plate and battle suit
Every piece is again a straight upgrade.
>Shields: small shield, large shield, magic shield and battle helmet
More straight upgrades. Are we going to count the 8 levels in all of Z2's stats as different weapons and armour? Because they are functionally the same.
>Magic: 5 different spells
Again, straight upgrades, except for Tilte which also works slightly differently but still does the same job (dealing damage).
Z2's eight (which is three more than five) spells actually have utility, like healing, increasing armour, shooting fire, jumping higher, changing shape, etc. Faxanadu spells all shoot straight ahead and deal damage. That's it.
Faxanadu doesn't even have crouching. It doesn't have air stabs. It simple, incredibly limited, and rigid combat. Enemies don't block attacks, they simply make a beeline for the player or follow a path, they don't even retreat to keep out of range when they're a ranged attacker.
711332 No.15702627
>>15702604
Anybody with half a brain cell knows that dark souls moment to moment combat really isn't that deep or good, it's more about how you approach a situation than anything. The only reason soy beings latch onto it as the "pinaccle of game design & difficulty" is because they heard it from someone else. It's not a bad game no matter how much you shitpost and whine, so either come up with some actual arguments or stop posting.
2b3b82 No.15702632
>>15702589
>Souls games
>difficult
It's just trial and error+knowing the enemy patterns. Not bad game design like Silver Surfer or LoZ 2.
>>15702592
Like I said, LoZ 1 is not crypic. You can easily find every secret if you try. It's better than Neutopia for example where the "secrets" are a joke and way too obvious.
>>15702611
Cryptic text aside, Castlevania 2 is bad
>empty dungeons
>game stops every minute
>you can just stunlock the final boss and he has only one phase
>holes in the floor just to annoy you
>grinding for hearts everytime you die
2b3b82 No.15702638
>>15702626
>Because they are functionally the same.
>long sword is the same as short sword
You never played Faxanadu right?
3d256f No.15702646
>>15702540
Now this is gud bait
Consider suicide for typing it anon :) have a nice day
77477e No.15702659
Shouldn't Street Fighter 2010: The Final Fight be a platformer instead of being in the action category?
56a4c8 No.15702661
>>15702638
Oh I'm sorry I forgot the long sword can also hit the small crawling enemies which the dagger cannot (BTW it's not called short sword in the game) and you need a weapon upgrade for those creatures because you can't even fucking crouch.
And yes I have played Faxanadu. Finished it when I was six, and again earlier this year. Remembered a lot of it but needed to make a map for the final couple of areas. Just like old times.
>>15702659
It's an action platformer, with the focus on combat action, whereas platformers like Mario focus more on platforming. I guess that's one explanation.
1748ed No.15702666
>>15702540
Anon is right. Zelda 1 is a turd. Only thing it has going for it is that it came out at a time when there was nothing else but side scrollers.
6b649e No.15702679
>>15702274
Only $100.00 on ebay. WHAT A DEAL!
e1fc31 No.15702694
>unironically playing unhacked nes games in the current year
1748ed No.15702759
>>15702694
NES games are still better than any current year AAA titles.
754732 No.15703668
>>15702679
Thank god for emulation and flashcarts
0a17db No.15703671
>Not sure what you're talking about
>Mentions youtube
Thinkingemoji.jpg
7b8152 No.15703692
>>15702237
I really hope this is bait.
>>15702276
>Zelda 2 is bad
Git gud faggot.
665743 No.15704134
>>15702694
>diabeetus
>Quaker oats
>dicks everywhere
>powerups are drugs
8e8acc No.15704323
>>15702335
>Switch Mario 2 for Doki Doki Panic
But Miyamoto considers the Mario version of DDP to be the definitive Mario 2
637afc No.15704352
>>15704323
And Miyamoto considers unique toads for Paper Mario games to be a bad idea, so he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.
fd6c62 No.15704368
You passed a point where would be better to make a non-recommended list, retard.
I think the library of NES is only 700 and you put fucking 600 on this.
d46450 No.15704385
>>15704368
Actually it's only 330, so tell me who's the retard again?
46511b No.15704400
5a60c4 No.15704402
Fuck NES, you're a bunch of niggers.
d46450 No.15704407
>>15704402
Show me on the doll where Nintendo touched you
f7062e No.15704415
>>15702226
Holy shit so much fuckery, where to begin:
>Popeye? Go play the arcade version
>young indy chronicles HAHAHAHA
>Dragon Quest 4, but no 1 or 2
>Renegade NES port sucks
>Karate Champ is shit
>no Ikari Warriors?
>Silver Surfer HAHAHAHAHA
fd6c62 No.15704416
>>15704385
>what is hyperbole
>put only US games
>there is literally more than 50% of US games in the list so even my absurd statement to point the retardness of a big list is unironically true
>the nostalgia zed didn't even finished 5 NES games in his whole life and still took his time to make this retarded huge fucklist to fulfill his "nerd street cred" like the teen bazzoper he is
17c5b7 No.15704420
>>15703692
Not bait, but a that point nearly every studio was still following the arcade-borne design philosophy of <20 minutes of actual content gated with extreme difficulty that one was expected to overcome through rote repetition. Also, the best gen 3 games got superior gen 4 clones/remakes.
d46450 No.15704441
>>15704416
>literally more than 50%
>330/714 = 46.22%
46511b No.15704457
>>15704441
You must be fun at parties. Still, the US library is 679 games, so it's 48.6%.
fa49cc No.15704467
>>15704457
>You must be fun at parties
d46450 No.15704468
>>15704457
also like to point out that several of these games are PAL exclusive, but whatever
0f9866 No.15704501
>>15704457
>You must be fun at parties.
d46450 No.15704572
>>15704415
>hurr durr, why are my personal tastes not being catered to?!!!
c1baef No.15704580
>>15704572
>make a chart
>get mad when that chart gets criticized
8dab18 No.15704584
>>15704415
>implying DW 1/2 are any good
>implying DW 3 is the worst one instead of the best
1dac89 No.15704589
>>15704457
>You must be fun at parties
2018f1 No.15704606
>>15704457
>you must be fun at parties
851ca2 No.15704618
>>15704457
>You must be fun at parties
2da90a No.15704619
Decent work op, haven't taken a close look but add friday the 13th to platformers and neutopia to action adventure. Also i think you're missing star tropics 1 and 2 which are the best games on the console.
bd543c No.15704697
>>15702226
"i recommend every game on the platform"
wow thank you for the educational post, it really narrowed down my choices
f647ad No.15704735
>>15704441
>>15704457
> You must be fun at parties.
0d1944 No.15704765
>>15704420
>arcade-born design philosophy
>a philosophy
>not limited memory space
>not programming being in it's infancy
>a philosophy
8410fe No.15704808
>no Japan exclusives
That's the big problem with this list.
5ed9e0 No.15704813
>>15702237
I think you made a typo. Did you mean Gen 2, perhaps?
70b0f4 No.15704817
>>15704735
why must you be?
b8c5c7 No.15704867
>>15704457
Get the fuck out of here, nigger.
>inb4 merely pretending guise XD
3f9b82 No.15704884
>>15702295
CIANiggers started patrolling /v/ now that they saw politics bleeding over from /pol/ after the mid terms, huh?
d699e8 No.15705051
>>15702226
You put the shitty Krion Conquest port over the original JAP version. This list sucks. Also the Power Pad was gay as fuck.
84f1f1 No.15705057
Reminder that Metal Gear is the best game kojima was ever a part of
4351e3 No.15705120
>>15704765
It was shekels, faggot. Always will be, always has been. Go fake news somewhere else.
68bc4d No.15705174
>>15702540
>LoZ isn't cryptic.
Only because the translation was shitty
>bomb random walls you aren't told which ones
Rarely required outside the second quest, and one instance I remember is kind of clever actually.
>burn random bushes you aren't told which ones
Mostly for optional stuff, although there is one late dungeon hidden behind a really fucking conspicuous bush. If you know bushes can be burnt you're going to check that one eventually.
>move random gravestone you aren't told which one
Again, optional
>use the raft at a random point you aren't told which one
There's two places, and only one has a dungeon
>there is no clue to push blocks in dungeons, it just happens and then becomes common knowledge
I happens in the first fucking dungeon and you can't progress in it until you figure it out. Would you rather they tell you it?
>"eastern most peninsula is the key" doesn't mean anything
Again, bad translation. Not defending it, it added random shit like a half-assed explanation of the drop system for no fucking reason.
>death mountain is trial and error
It's the final dungeon, although I don't remember much of it off the top of my head. I do know it's fucking huge, so I guess it's really more of a maze than anything.
>get warp whistle mostly seen as utility
>required to get into a dungeon but you wouldn't have figured that out unless you're warping nonstop
It's also not only a boss but there's a clue you moron. "Secrets lie where fairies don't live", I believe. It's right next to where a fairly lives and is the exact same kind of map. You fucking retard
>getting the bands and rings
Again, optional
>The dungeons aren't too cryptic, but the overworld is a mess. If Zelda only had it's overworld, it would be a bad game.
Ironically, the overworld is one of the best parts of the game. The dungeons are boring, in comparsion. You're just a fucking moron. Zelda was my one of my first video games and I didn't find it too hard to understand. Was a bit difficult to actually beat though.
96ef94 No.15705231
>>15704457
>You must be fun at parties
1e4e0c No.15705465
>>15705231
>>15705238
>don't use these terms frequently used against us
>even when out of context
Orwellian shit tbh
b4f4d6 No.15706139
>>15704457
Fuck off to reddit.
17c5b7 No.15706429
>>15704765
>limited memory space
>programming being in it's infancy
>when arcades still follow that design philosophy 30+ years later
Heh.
5c7503 No.15706472
>>15705465
Frequently used on reddit.
75d79e No.15706822
>>15704619
Neutopia is a PC Engine game, mate.
>>15704765
No, they're difficult, because arcadefags want a fair challange. As opposed to fucking casuls who want interactive movie games, walking simulators like that don't require any skill or effort. Games that can be finished on the first try without ever being at risk of losing. Games you finish once and never look back to like Tumblrtale. Also, the reason they're relatively short is obvious. You can't expect people to play a game as long as let's say Phantasy Star for 8-12 hours in one sitting. Not to mention that you'd be occupying the machine for such a long time it's not profitable for the owner of the arcade.
0d1944 No.15706960
>>15706429
I was more or less describing the reason home console games were the way they were starting out, not so much arcades, but okay.
8fba80 No.15707418
>>15702226
hey, vice project doom is there too.
sick game, i would recommend playing right after shatterhand or spy hunter
e35d6c No.15709082
>>15702226
Nice chart, reddit.
>>15702335
You have great taste. Mitsume ga Tooru is better than megaman 1 to 6 combined.
231b36 No.15709100
04d4f3 No.15709123
I'm cultivating something of a collection myself, thread starter.
ddf549 No.15709184
>>15709123
Cultivate yourself off a cliff, cuckchan.
8d57a6 No.15709838
Not a single mention of tetris…
8d57a6 No.15709857
Solomons key is fun as heck.
cc6cc9 No.15709869
>>15709123
>RDR2
>GTA5
>Maple Story
>Playing Paying Rock(((Star))) games after Gta4
>Nexon
Unacceptably shit taste
ab582a No.15710283
>>15702365
Wasn't New Ghostbusters 2 made by Hal Laboratories and a decent game?
d657b7 No.15710316
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>look at image
>no Recca
>Ctrl+F thread
>no Recca
oh sorry it's just The Best Shmup On The Platform
plus it's got kickass techno
04d4f3 No.15712135
>>15709869
What games would you recommend as alternatives to OW? Games that people would be genuinely interested in and not abandoned 90s-graphics indie games?