/v/ - Video Games

Games became irredeemable in the middle lf gen 7. That's when kikery went full throttle.

>generations

But seriously Morrowind, FarCry, Battlefield Vietnam and Unreal Tournament 2004 made me think that as computers got better games would just keep getting more amazing.

Well I was a kid during that period of console gaming so I obviously thought there were going to be just as many good games in the future, and we all know how that turned out.

The big memories I had of gen6 were playing multiplayer games like Smash, Mario Kart, Mario Party, and Halo with friends from school. One of them was spoiled and had Xbox Live. I remember thinking how cool it would be if all games could let you play online. I played PC games at the time that supported online (such as AoE) but I mostly played those LAN.

Now most multiplayer games support online and very few, if any, support local multiplayer. I never thought online would be so shit and that I'd miss local play.

I believed games would only get better and better. Crysis confirmed it.

How wrong i was.

>>15416676

We were all wrong anon.

>>15416613

Advancements in computer networking, or hardware networking in general, spelled the DOOM of all good game systems, physical game copies, and abating of microtransactions

I don't think swans can actually sing songs but yeah, 6th gen was the last good gen before DLC and lootboxes became a thing. You use to get full complete games back then. Now, modern devs just sell you incomplete, unfinished games with a "patch problems later", "charge extra via microtransactions" mentality.

Nah, shit was already becoming homogenized before it and it was just a continuation. All I figured is AA stuff would still have a good share of things afterward.

>>15416666

checked.

You can thank kikery for not allowing local or direct-IP multiplayer. They force you to pay a monthly online fee to keep the shekels flowing. And once servers die, the online dies too, so it doubles as a good way to make you move on. Also apparently it's a kike anti-piracy measure.

>>15417385

Not only subscription, but it forces having to buy multiple copies of the game (which publishers want) and have multiple systems to play it on (which platform owners want). Granted, handhelds used to be that way already to a degree, minus the subscription thing (though with the DS, some multiplayer avoided the needing to have multiple copies of the game thing; stuff like Lunar Knights could do single cart multiplayer streaming with the wireless), but there's generally a noticeable difference in cost between handheld systems and games, and prices on consoles/PC and their games.

I was still dumb enough to think game quality would rise. I was blown away by FFX's cutscenes and couldn't wait until I could play games in those graphics. Now I just want decent gameplay even if it means 64tier polygons. I didn't foresee all the shekelgrubbing and pushing phone game systems into consoles either.

>>15416613

the latter, the 7th gen was still good but mostly hit or miss, fuck this gen though, and I dont think we will ever see another great gen unless some miracle happens

>>15417437

also don't forget

>game has an opportunity to not have hitscan with plasmid wielding enemies

>makes plasmids 99% hitscan regardless

makes my blood boil

>>15417437

wasnt bioshock 2 better in every single way but people hated it since it wasnt as 'deep' as the first one?

>>15416613

>When the sixth generation was current, did you realize that it was the swan song of good gaming or did you believe that good games would keep coming for the foreseeable future?

I remember thinking "video games are the only medium that haven't gone to shit in the same way movies, and music had.

>>15416613

I bought a PS2 as late as 2011, but have only bought 5 games for it so far:

>Odin Sphere

>Okami

>>Killer 7

>Persona 4

>GrimGrimoire (came in the mail yesterday)

Any tips on what I should buy next that hasn't received any remakes or ports yet?

>>15417484

Ace Combat 4: Shattered Skies

>>15417484

twisted metal black

>>15417484

Depends on what you like genre/playstyle-wise, and what your per-game budget is right now, assuming it's not a fat you can set up with an IDE (I use mine both disc and digital loading). I will say that Odin Sphere you'd probably be better off with Leifthrasir if you at least have a PS3. Leifthrasir contains both classic and remake gameplay modes, and avoids the bulk of the slowdown the NTSC PS2 versions had.

>>15417535

>Nocturne

Nevermind. Atlus said in an interview last week they want make a remake/port of it in near future.

>>15417568

>Modern Atlus remake

Doesn't mean it will be better than the original if they go that route. I'm just saying, given their recent trends.

>>15416634

As is always the argument when it comes to decades, there's a huge difference between someone who was in diapers during that time, and someone who was going to school during that time. If you were old enough to play the games when they were current, it really doesn't matter.

>>15417573

Of course, but if I were him I'd wait before I buy it before the port/remake turns out to be the better version or atleast get a free Mcboot memcard for 5bux and just pirate it first then buy a copy later on.

>>15417535

Are the Digital Devil Saga games any good?

I was pretty much done with consoles after the PS3 failed to live up to the PS2, but bought a PS4 hoping they could catch the same spark the PS2 had but that doesn't seem the case now. I don't think I'll be getting any other consoles in the near future, theres still plenty of games left to play on the sixth gen.

>>15417568

But will it feature Dante from the Devil May Cry series?

>>15417484

I will give you some.

>Persona 3 FES(Just fucking buy it. Its worth it)

>Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne(only play this if you like JRPGs and a huge challenge but a great storyline)

>Rule Of Rose(highly underatted from Atlus but if you like Silent Hill but with some interesting gameplay mechanics with a dog helper get it)

>Dead to Rights(if you like Action gameplay you will like this)

These would be games i would recommend along with Katamari Damacy if you have not heard of it(Recommend getting Katamari Forever as it has both games and extras in it).

>>15417573

I trust Atlus as much as i trust Sega on the Yakuza series. They will pull through. But its your choice.

>>15417603

Not like Nocturne is expensive these days, post reprint and all. Hell, all the PS2 SMT and Personas (base P3 aside) being reprinted means they're all seeing better days in terms of the aftermarket. Though the Raidou games are still probably the most expensive.

>>15417473

Bioshock 1 was being constantly remade until it got released. The same thing with Bioshock Infinite. The main thing that separates Bioshock 2 from the others is the lack of Levine's involvement.

In the 6th gen, people generally made fun of games by saying that they are movies because of the over-reliance of cut-scene. Now the game is the cut-scene. With the exception of the choice with the Little Sisters and Andrew Ryan, the game doesn't let you have any agency. How does the game expect me to explore if my only option is to kill and enemies keep respawning?

>>15417609

Digital Devil Saga is solid. Its basically more of a normal JRPG mechanic version of SMT series. Both are really good games and interesting. Raidou runs like ass though and have no clue why other anon recommended it.

>>15417642

He can always buy it on the virtual store for 10$ a piece maybe even less. PSN might suck but it still allows you to buy it if you have a PSTV.

>>15417649

>Buying digital

>Buying console digital

>>15417649

That's if he's got a PS3, and even then I've heard that the PSN versions don't run quite as well as the actual stuff did on PS2.

>>15417641

>Rule Of Rose(highly underatted from Atlus

>Atlus

Reminder that publishers are not always the devs. Rule of Rose was developed by a company called Punchline and in Japan the game is owned by Sony. Atlus did at least bring it to NA; I'm just saying.

>>15416613

Absolutely. I used to be uber hardcore until then. That gen is when I stopped playing vidya other than MMOs all day every day.

I remember playing Pokémon colosseum, smash brothers melee, dynasty warriors 4, haloand Morrowind. It was a great time and I remember thinking that games would only ever get better and cooler. I miss those days

>>15417484

>jarpigshit

>shitty zelda clone

>bad port of an OK cube game

>jarpigshit

>jarpigshit

jesus anon, you fucked up bigly

go get god hand, gradius5 and katamari damacy

>>15416613

>When the sixth generation was current, did you realize that it was the swan song of good gaming

Everybody but Amerifats realized that the party was over, when the Xbox came out. Because Microsoft means monopoly, corruption, and the herd of idiot who let it happen through protetionism. Also known as 'buy american': when Europe naturally split between 360 and PS3 in the 7th generation, America aka China 2 instead sided completely with the local product.

>>15419327

>jarpigshit

Back to cuckchan

>>15419486

Reverse image search it you lazy fuck

Xbox with UnleashX and a big ass hard drive is the single finest gaming machine money can buy assuming you have a CRT TV or a framemeister of course

>>15419486

Tactics Ogre/Ogre Battle fanart IIRC.

>>15416613

>When the sixth generation was current, did you realize that it was the swan song of good gaming or did you believe that good games would keep coming for the foreseeable future?

Are you underage? Everyone was hype as fuck for the 7th generation. Of course we all thought the good games were here to stay. Needless to say that never happened

>>15419537

The first step in making video games great again is to convince the world the production of video games in China, India, and for mobile platforms, should all be universally outlawed punishable by death but that will never happen.

>>15417437

>game about Objectivism

Anon, there are problems with Ayn Rands philosophy but none of them are addressed in this strawman game. The paridox about Ken lavine's moral delemia is he is pushing a hard line take on determanism in a medium (computer programing) that is inescapably deterministic by its very nature.

>>15419550

We should also nuke the westerm cost of the united states and all of British Columbia.

>>15419530

the female lead in this game had an amazing ass

I'll never forget

she was the 2B of her generation

>>15417437

Funny, I remember my freshman year of college circa 2011/2012 there was some shitlib girl in my classes who thought it was "the best game" and constantly wore t shirts for it

>this game is muh art

I'm not even trying to fan Warhorse's balls, but how is bioshit "art" but KDC is "just entertainment?" Think about it

>>15417641

>>Persona 3 FES(Just fucking buy it. Its worth it)

>Any Persona after 2

>>15419580

jun?

>>15419622

actually I just realized that gif is from tekken and now I can't remember the name of the game I was thinking about…

>>15419580

>>15419635

>>15419657

ah it was this shitty game

The early 7th gen was very optimistic. I enjoyed plenty of games that still had that 6th gen mentality on the devs' side - e.g. Dead Rising, which clearly couldn't have been done on the 6th gen so it took advantage of so many new features. My most hyped game of the early 7th gen was GTA IV, and although I still love it for things like the physics or level of detail which have declined in today's games, it did have certain flaws that foreshadowed what gaming would become, like dwindling content or scripted shit up the ass.

It's really sad, Xbone and PS4 somehow managed to be both underpowered and still haven't used their full potential at the same time. Nothing is gonna program itself, so fucking Zelda Breath of The Wild has made for immensely outdated hardware has more innovative advanced features than most 8th gen games.

>>15416617

That's the breaking point, but some of the rot was also showing its signs by circa 2004 already, we only notice it in hindsight though.

>>15419617

>Any Persona after 2

Is better than the previous. As you get older you will realize you were just primed on the first game you saw, that you see through nostalgia glasses.

>>15419822

I suppose this is the anon who said P5 was for people who liked the older games.

Yes, I believed it was just the start of things to come and I thought 7th gen was gonna be more of 6th gen but in 16:9 and HD.

No, I do not believe another great gen is coming because the people creating games currently are agenda pushers who don't know how to make good games. While the people who do know what makes a good game are not in creative roles and in fact seem to enjoy watching the industry collapse under its own weight.

>>15420340

Finish AC5 my dude, you won't regret it.

>what other PS2 games should I get

Ace Combat Zero

Ace Combat 4

BF2 Modern Combat

Gradius V

BLACK

Burnout 3 Takedown

Burnout Dominator

Sniper Elite

Devil Kings

TMNT

>>15420407

for western humanity as a whole the peak and trough occurred simultaneously in the 1970s tbh.

videogames and the internet are weird outliers in media because they probably did peak in the 90s.

>>15417666

Yeah ps3 version of DDS sucks

Persona 4 runs perfectly though

I only had an NES for most of the generation and I already thought new games were dumbed down. I got a PS1 later and an Xbox after the 360 came out, going from the Spyro trilogy to Spyro: A Hero's Tail is a shining example.

>Could another great generation come in the future?

I'm sure we could get REALLY good content if suddenly internet support for video games stopped being the "norm". By doing this there won't be streamers, dlc, season pass and other unnecessary garbage. Hell maybe this modern "gaming culture" would disappear or reduce significantly after implementing this.

I realized that good games would keep coming as they always have. Haven't been proven wrong yet. If you're having trouble finding good games you aren't looking hard enough or need to seriously broaden your horizons.

I like all consoles during the 6th gen, and although I like the gamecube I think it's kinda worthless and has a very disappointingly small library.

>>15420340

Maximo (the first one)

Jak and Dexter series

Ratchet and Clank 1-3

Silent Hill 2 and 3

Fatal Frame

Headhunter

Haunting Ground

Soul Calibur II and III

Psi Ops

Dragon Ball Budokai Tenkaichi 3 if you like a lot of big explosions and don't care about balance or Super Dragon Ball Z if you want a more traditional fighting game.

>>15417484

SHINOBI AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

and also Nightshade

>>15416613

Multiplayer, DLC, and RROD awaited, but the sixth was still not as good as the 5th in terms of games. Mobile and lonely Japanese bus rides home killed the industry.

>>15421116

The PS1 was the only 5th gen system with a great library and even most of those games got superior sequels on the PS2

>>15421102

How is the second Maximo?

>>15421121

n64 had a small but decent library and the saturn had a massive library.

>>15422438

the 5th gen was also often the subject of criticism for bringing 3D into the mainstream "before it was ready" or changing the landscape of games with far inferior ones. Funny how things move forward just a little bit after every generation both in and out of games.

>>15416613

I did not realize it before the end of 8th gen and in the beginning of 9th then I started to realize that Single Player games where at it's best in 6th gen, and they had an experimental feel to it they took chances on stuff. While now they are more predictable because every game has to have a formula and a familiar UI, before I thought that health packs was the thing but I realized that's only because the games with health packs had a great level design with health packs in mind and the auto gen health system made in many ways more lazy level designers.

>>15422547

The Switch is a Vita and a Vita TV in one package. Not a bad thing actually.

>>15422547

the 360 became a media machine people watched netflix on the thing then microsoft marketed the xbone as a media machine with kinect as an easy voice command thing and the DRM nightmare machine 1,0 but then made it into 0,5, where you cannot boot up a game if an update has not been installed.

I had a Halo craze yesterday and what happened? I took the blu ray of halo master collection into my bone then it came with it's faggoty update and it's still updating and Fable 2 was downloaded faster then the halo mastercollection update.

Now microsoft is trying to market the xbone as a games machine until they said they are making a new console.

PS4 was marketed as both a game console and a media machine later on.But at-least with a ps4 you can boot up a game without an update, you can play a game without updating the game while the update is downloading and installing.

The Switch was just marketed as a console handheld hybrid, it works as that but there are some games that will overheat the handheld console hybrid tough, I found it with Bayonetta 2 and Hyrule warriors.

>>15422691

>The Switch was just marketed as a console handheld hybrid, it works as that but there are some games that will overheat the handheld console hybrid tough, I found it with Bayonetta 2 and Hyrule warriors.

I thought it had active cooling or does it suck that badly? I can't imagine a weak tablet producing much too heat without first throttling

>>15422705

well, it produces allot of heat if the gpu is having a hard time. And that happens if the game engine is not optimized to the hardware or the port is not optimized for it.

And that was the case with Hyrule warriors and Bayonetta 2 for me at-least.

Doom and Skyrim worked fine for me along with octopath traveler, even breath of the wild but I think that the game was probably made for the switch in mind.

>>15422705

>I thought it had active cooling or does it suck that badly?

It does have active cooling, but the problem is you have the airflow of a tablet with the heat dissipation demands of a console. Nintendo completely fucked up the airflow, and the intake is often obstructed by either your hands - or the dock itself. This is even worse if you decide to do something dumb, like trying to stick the "handheld" it in your pocket and end up with a bunch of lint and shit embedding in the intake to get sucked up into the unit and block what little airflow it does have over time.

First generation Switches have a serious problem with warping due to heat buildup from improper cooling.

>>15422547

>DVD player.

>It caused all the normalfags, boomers, and other dipshits who don't even play games to buy one

Nigger, do you have any fucking idea how expensive DVDs were back in 99? The PS2's launch price was $299. That's less than half the cheapest DVD player on the market at the time. Even if it had some impact for the DVD player capability, children used it to coerce their parents into buying the console with that pretense, when they actually wanted it for playing videogames.

>>15422742

Did they fix that in newer generations at least? The Switch has a lot of design flaws that's a pretty damn serious one since there doesn't seem to be any throttling to help cool the system down. Another issue is that you generally have to take computers apart to clean the fans and that voids the warranty on Nintendo consoles.

>>15422987

This is a confusing post to read. It's like you're cementing in my point completely with a tone that makes it sound like I'm wrong.

>>15422547

It didn't start with the DVD player. Most CD based consoles an add ons were marketed as also being CD players. Obviously the PS1 was, and the Sega CD and Saturn before that. DVD was the next logical step from there.

>>15423101

That shit is tame compared to what we have today. The CD part made the games cheaper and easier to make, as well as have more memory than cartridges. I bet a marketing team just saw that and slapped music" part on as an after thought. It actually bit Nintendo pretty hard in the ass with the N64 to.

Compare that to DVDs, where everyone and their fucking mom was buying a PS2, because DVDs where on fire at the time. The most it did for games is add more memory on the disk, as opposed to what CDs added from cartridges.

I found at that gen consoles were for plebs and found the holy lighted path of the PC master race.

I miss the days when consoles had very different colors and shapes from each other. Modern ones all have the same generic ass shape except the Switch.

>>15423146

>because it was advertised as a toy and attracted thousands of newfags who never played videogames

They bought it to play games, not watch DVDs.

>Or the SNES and the Genesis because they attracted dumb american kids with graphics and no one gave a shit about the gameplay?

At least it is relevant to THE GAME. You really underestimate just how many boomers/Gen-Xs bought the PS2 EXCLUSIVELY for the DVD player and never owned a single game. It's been all gimmicks ever since, because console manufacturers have been trying to capture the boomer wave.

>>15423198

Sure, but you kinda have to remember that VHS was a pain in the ass for most people, or rewinding the vhs tape and the tape would ware for each use, so the picture quality after awhile would look like shit.

when dvd hit the market and when ps2 gain traction there where movie sales everywhere, dvds where cheaper then VHS and the electronics/game stores would have really cheap dvds.

I remember getting ps2 for x-mas and I got a dvd The Matrix and the first World Rally Championship, I remember vividly how good the graphics where at the time.

The PS2 was the first real media machine it was not only a gaming console but a reliable dvd player at the same time. The xbox you needed a dumb remote extension to watch a dvd movie, yes. I do have that dumb remote. And GameCube had games but as usual in Nintendo fashion it was only some few games for the system that was worth it.

While PS2 had a bunch of games along with xbox had a bunch of worthwhile games

>>15423336

I'm not really knocking the PS2's games. I'm just saying it's where the modern mediabox console cancer comes from. Corporations don't realize what you mentioned. That it only worked for PS2 because DVD was a massive step up from VHS.

>>15423094

I mean that although it could play DVDs and was cheap, kids used that as an argument to make their parents buy the console under the guise that they would use it to watch movies, when in actuality virtually everybody bought it to play videogames, not watch DVDs.

>>15423535

>They're called boomers

Fuck off cuckchan fag.

>>15423558

>And what is my generation?

If I had to guess it would be late end Gen X which is basically a millennial lite with delusions of superiority. Polite sage for off-topic.

>>15423486

>Then the fucking Xbox brought all the "This is a real mans console" Halo dude bro shit.

One testament to the fact that Halo would be nothing without Microsoft pushing it is that where I live, nobody owned a fucking Xbox so Halo was just another generic futuristic FPS people only made mild attention to at the time because we had other shit to play like RTCW.

>>15423486

>Dreamcast got thrown to the wastelands, one of the last true good consoles.

Its library was full of ports and it was an absolute nightmare to develop for. It died for a reason.

Fucking SEGA hipsters.

>>15423657

>it was an absolute nightmare to develop for.

I thought it was the exact opposite because they would be stupid to repeat the same mistake with the Saturn.

>>15423677

I believe Dreamcast died because no matter how good it was, people just didn't care about Sega after its streak of horrible business decisions. Sony dropping announcement of the PS2 was its final nail in the coffin.

>>15423657

>full of ports

You mean really good full blown arcade games? oh the horror.

>nightmare to develop for

No, it was the complete opposite.

>>15423688

This, aka the wasteland.

>>15423059

>Did they fix that in newer generations at least?

I don't know. I can't imagine they did since they didn't significantly alter the design of the system in newer models. Maybe less "cheap" components would be more resistant to warping, but we'll have to wait and see how the new units fare.

>Another issue is that you generally have to take computers apart to clean the fans and that voids the warranty on Nintendo consoles.

At least in America, voiding warranties is not a legally viable position as stipulated by the FTC. It's actually illegal for a company to threaten it's customers with voiding the warranty to discourage third party repairs.

>>15423657

The dreamcast is a weeb box. Anything involving weebs is going to be overhyped garbage. Just look at metal gear solid.

>>15424678

>PS2 killed video games!

>DC is shit!

>Fucking weebs!

Kill yourself my man.

GameCube was the best console, Wind Waker was the best Zelda, well, at least better than "Vast open empty world of nothing" Zelda.

>>15424708

>Says Dreamcast isn't shit

>Being part of whats ruining Japanese entertainment

Like pottery.

>>15424769

There are many ways to painlessly kill yourself, please do so as soon as possible.

>>15424769

>>15424678

why isn't this autistic narrative peddling conspiracy theorist faggot banned?

>>15425009

Most people sat tight for the PS2 thinking it was going to be a massive shift and while it had a weak first year by 2001 it really started to show off some impressive games. Everyone knew the PS1 was the console to beat, and a successor could only be better considering how the original playstation ran circles around the competition and successfully brought 3D to the mainstream of games.

>>15422987

> The PS2's launch price was $299. That's less than half the cheapest DVD player on the market at the time.

DVD players were cheaper than the PS2 at launch. By the end of 2000 you could get them for $100. Why are you so full of shit?

>>15417473

The only reason that watered down System Shock clone was ever liked was because of "muh depth." That was the only reason it shined, otherwise other games did literally everything else better.

Also in Bioshock 2 the bad guy was a commie. This was back in the day when Jack Thompson was the enemy and the (((media))) was our greatest ally. All the edgy teenagers couldn't handle it when the utopia that got deconstructed was THEIR utopia. If we had been a little older maybe we would have seen the red flags…

>>15419607

Was she at least decent looking?

>>15423709

What type/brand of drive are you using, and are you letting it fully spin up before connecting it to the computer? Whatever the case, ALWAYS do the latter in my experience. Much less hassle with the connection suddenly being lost.

>>15423709

winhiip sucks and I never had a good time using it. Just spend some time getting it all ready and then transferring everything you want for some time. Get a nice big HDD, maybe use one of those SATA network adapters and get a terabyte or 1.5TB drive.

>>15423094

I agree. It was weird to read.

>>15425411

WinHIIP works in my experiences, but I should state that the main reason I use it is because I've had a hard time finding much as to instructions/troubleshooting for HDLdump/b in comparison. Also don't really want to have to reformat my drive if that's going to have to be done to switch to a new installer. I did have problems with WinHIIP in the past, but switching from plugging the drive into the computer and then the wall, to plugging it into the wall and then the computer pretty much resolved them completely. But that's just me.

>>15422987

That video is fucking retarded

>talks about launch games and games released during Fall 2001

>starts drifting off into listing games like God of War, Persona 4, Sly Cooper, games released in middle or at the end of the PS2's life

>forgets that the launch lineup was actually considered disappointing outside of SSX

>doesn't even list SSX among the launch games

>forgets that DoA2 sucked on PS2.

>>15425517

I've always done it that way too with the HDD, it's something I've got plenty of experience with when it comes to modding xboxes. Every time I upload additional games to it, the whole thing goes awry and is no longer recognized by the PS2. Only way I get good results is if I start from 0 and do a fresh install.

>>15425546

That's weird. What size/make of drive have you been using?

>>15425574

seagate 250gb hdd I bought a few of for cheap. Works fine otherwise, something goes wrong in the process of adding games to an already loaded HDD and then the softmod needs to be redone. I'm just going to explore my options with the SATA adapters.

>>15425584

Hmm. I've got a 250gb maxtor, and a Sabrent IDE/SATA to USB adaptor.

>>15425681

Should also specify that the maxtor is an IDE, not a SATA.

I actually went and grabbed all the 6th gen titles I missed during the 7th gen's life because I didn't have an HD display (almost all of them anyways. Ultra rare shit like Cubivore I passed on.). By the time I actually got one I grabbed all the good titles for the 7th gen. After I finished those I looked for other stuff I didn't play yet then realized that WAS everything and I didn't miss anything. Despite having exhausted everything the 7th gen had, once Dolphin and (to a much lesser degree) PCSX2 became usable and I finally tracked down a non-GotY copy of PS2 Agent Under Fire I managed to find 6th gen titles I hadn't touched that were pretty good (though a significant portion of this was learning Nipponese. 機動戦士ガンダム　戦士達の軌跡, Legend of Golfer, Pachipara 13, 14, 15, Swordcraft Story 3).

I say that though gen 7 consoles were a disappointment in comparison PS3 had enough titles to justify my purchase in the end (but I bought them cheap relatively late into the lifespan). Gen 7 handhelds however were great: DS and PSP both had tons of great games, though a large chunk of PSP games were Nipponese only.

>>15425683

>>15425681

I know the kind you're talking about and they have a lot of issues. How much free space do you have on there? I hope yours runs well but be careful with it and if you don't, have the data backed up.

>>15425693

Mine runs fine, but then again I haven't filled it all up since I run my PS2 as both from disc and loader (the latter helping for nulling region lock and avoiding prices on stuff that is just too expensive these days, also demoing games I'm curious about), so I haven't stuffed it with literally everything I've had interest in playing at once. I'd have to check exactly how much space is left, but I wager it's about half full. I still have the games and modification files on my computer as well, if that's what you mean by backup.

>>15425709

anything that can't be replaced. Maxtor was always a budget brand and those $25 250GB Maxtor's aren't super reliable. Just a fair warning to save yourself any headaches. Don't fill it, as this for some reason can cause issues.

>>15423486

Are you high?

Dreamcast had like 3 years and everything was ps1 ports, some Arcade ports and then some original games.3rd party was shit on the console mainly because it was harder to develop for in some ways because of limited space when it came to a cd room.

PS2 was the ultimate console if you where into jrpgs and the first party line up of games where amazing, great 3rd party support also.

GameCube had some few games that where good but you did not buy a gamecube for it's 3rd party line up, you bought it for the Nintendo games like any other Nintendo console.

The Xbox was a great console had both a good variety of pc to console ports and was the fps machine with a good variety of western RPGs, then the graphics could be better in some 3rd party games. Since the x in the xbox did stand for direct-x.

Then the first party line-up was great for the xbox, but it was both a hit and miss.

But PC gaming was where it was at, if you wanted great controls in fps games and wanted a great MP experience in games like Unreal Tournament 2004.

I'm not too much into PC gaming now, but I've just played some games and lost hope for pc gaming, and went to play old games in my library, one will see that games back then even on the xbox 360 had a sense of wonder in most games. All of that is lost in newer games now.

I don't know about gen x people, but most kids and young teenagers obviously thought games were always going to be great. I used to be excited about upcoming games, and not just to laugh about how stupid they look.

>>15425752

Got a better brand you'd recommend for longevity balanced against price? Though to my knowledge the act of loading from them puts a fair bit of wear on the drives too, so they will need replacing eventually regardless.

>>15426637

To be fair, its' worth remembering were the PS2 stood in 2001 when the Dreamcast was discontinued. A lot of really great games only came out later in the PS2's life, and a lot of PS2 games circa-2001 looked and played worse than their Dreamcast contemporaries.

>>15416666

I never thought paying for online on a console would be the norm and not just M$ jewry.

>>15416613

> did you realize that it was the swan song of good gaming or did you believe that good games would keep coming for the foreseeable future?

No I definitely thought gaming wouldn't ever see a massive decline in quality like it has. For awhile I really liked last gen until the online focus for the consoles really started to show their ugly side. As a result developers just kept making extremely casualized shit. Many promising new gaming IP's like Mass Effect and Assassins Creed either turned to shit or were just shit to begin with. Perhaps the worst thing is last gen also pushed out so much potential in gaming since rising production costs and corporate greed have made it so most developers simply wanted their own Call of Duty at all costs instead of trying to make great games and to budget themselves properly.

I don't even think this shit can be fixed anymore. The floodgates for massive kikery has been open already and it is foolish to ever think things can go back to the golden years of gaming. I'd say gen 4-6 was the golden age with gen 3 being a revival of gaming of sorts that also paved the way to what gaming was going to be. As for the 7th gen, it started somewhat promising but ultimately the key things that killed it was online focus, more casuals getting into gaming, games needing these large teams developing for it and production costs for games started to skyrocket.

>>15430061

everything I've seen sucks like hdldumb/p and winhiip is literally as good as it gets which is just fucked and I wish there was someone competent in the PS2 scene that made new tools from the ground up like FMCB streamlined launching applications and OPL vastly improved HDD loading.

Xbox tools may be ancient as well but they're fucking great and incredibly easy to use. I love c-xbox tool 2, qwix is great, xplorer 360 works without issues, the soft modding dashes are superb. PS2 is 10 times bigger and has so much more demand but nobody competent doing any software support for management.

About halfway through when sixth generation was current I had already realized that it was a shitty generation and that things would only get worse from there because graphics and budgets were killing game quality and output. The sixth gen sucked.

>>15417484

GTA III

>>15427451

Sorry I owned one.

Lets see, they had mysterious hardware to an extent which made EA not want to develop for the console if I remember correctly, and they where preparing for the PS2 because it had a better GPU that was 150MHz instead of Dreamcasts's 100MHz then there was the ram that was alright but not really any good since it was 16MB compared to the PS2 which had 32MB RDRAM.

Also the most you could have on a dreamcast disc was 1gb per disc. Overall the hardware was inferior, just like the ps2 hardware was inferior to the xbbox and gamecube.

Most of the games I have on my dreamcast are either port from ps1 or some original games.

>>15426692

in 2001 the ps2 was alright you had GTA3, Soul Reaver 2 and Devil May Cry. And many more interesting games it was 2000 where there was a drought in video games for PS2, still it was better then PS3, PS4 and xbone to an extent.

I dunno, I just like the 6th gen allot more then I first realized, whatever kind of console you got you would have a good time. Even xbox was one hell of a great console.

>>15416613

I never bought a 6th gen console. I owned a Playstation (1). I don't know if it was because I got it too late or because the 5th gen ended too early, but at the time I figured it would be a waste to buy 6th. As soon as I did I felt like 7th would be right around the corner and I'd be in the same mess, plus backwards compatibility was a thing (at least with Playstation) so why not just wait for the inevitable PS3 and play all the PS2 games then?

6th gen of course lasted quite a while, but I knew that if I gave in at any point it would only be that much closer to the end. I did end up buying a PS3 at or near launch, with hardware backwards compatibility, that I used almost exclusively as a massively overpriced PS2. I got burned on the price, and then the games never came. Of course I'm never buying another console as long as I live, and I gave the PS3 away a few years ago after it spent half a decade collecting dust.

>>15417484

Enthusia

Tourist Trophy

Auto Modellista

Ridge Racer V

>>15431173

what?

The ps2 to ps3 was like 5 years if it was not 6 years.

And the 6th console generation was over almost as soon as it began.

The 7th console generation lasted awhile and if you got some few games then went into the ps2 backlog you should've had some games to play compared to those that played the ps2 games then went into ps3. Where it was only resistance, genji and ridge racer 7 along with motorsport.

Sixth gen is worst gen.

>Sega, the last creator of real videogames, goes bankrupt

>Microshit enters the market, the most jewish company of all time

>Nintendo's biggest failure, forcing them to sellout to casuals with the Wii

>Sony solidifies their place as the dominant force, forever dooming videogames

Anyone that likes this shitty gen is an underageb& retard.

>>15417437

If Ken Levine hated cut scenes so much, why did he added a bunch of scripted scenes that are functionally similar to cut scenes except that you can move the camera but can't skip?

>>15419500

>suggesting he use google services

>>15434896

>google has the only reverse image search engine

>>15434896

>google is the only tool available

get out and return to where ever you came from newfag

>>15420340

Matrix The Path Of Neo

>>15431120

>Sorry I owned one.

You didn't.

>Lets see, they had mysterious hardware to an extent which made EA not want to develop for the console

>if I remember correctly

Nigger you remembered wrong, it was because EA got so fed up with the Saturn that they abandoned Sega despite the Dreamcast being way more developer friendly than the cobbled dual processor monstrosity that the Saturn was.

>and they where preparing for the PS2 because it had a better GPU that was 150MHz instead of Dreamcasts's 100MHz then there was the ram that was alright but not really any good since it was 16MB compared to the PS2 which had 32MB RDRAM.

I guess it also didn't occur to your dumbass that the PS1 was such a success and with Sony marketing the PS2 so heavily it was a given a major developer like EA would support it. Also

<giving a shit about EA trash

>Overall the hardware was inferior, just like the ps2 hardware

Which is why the PS2 was such a failure oh wait it fucking wasn't.

>Most of the games I have on my dreamcast are either port from ps1

Which looked better and feature extra content. Also

<its bad because of ports

<after saying Xbox was a great console because of >>15426637

>The Xbox was a great console had both a good variety of pc to console ports

>some original games.

Which were great for their time.

You really are a dumb fucking nigger.

>>15416729

>I don't think swans can actually sing songs but yeah

What that supposed to be a fucking joke or something? Are you retarded?

>>15431989

>>Microshit enters the market, the most jewish company of all time

And makes hands down the best console ever made.

>>15416613

i got my first apartment during the 6th gen, and i remember coming home from work, sitting on my piece of shit couch that i got for free off craigslist, throwing resident evil 4 into my gamecube and absolutely shitting my pants at how awesome it was. the 6th gen was absolutely my favorite and i'd give anything to go back to those days and play all those games for the first time again i got fatal frame 3 during that time and scared myself so bad i almost had a heart attack

>>15438466

>sitting on my piece of shit couch that i got for free off craigslist

>Risking bedbugs

I can understand if you had next to money and needed somewhere to sit, but I'd rather the floor if the alternative is a brood setting up shop in your place and feeding on me because I got a couch or mattress second hand. Bad enough getting them just from the damn moving truck.