/v/ - Video Games

>>15373218

It helps to lose all hope in the industry. I see absolutely no fun games on the horizon, so that's a good inspiration to make shit. Even better is to get angry, like I did over the butchering of Spyro Reignited Trilogy.

To be fair, I get distracted too, but at the very least, my distractions revolve around PC construction and repairs so it's beneficial in the long run.

>>15373218

It is something all of us has to go through at some point in time. Loss of all hope, feeling too tired to do anything but reprimand yourself into working, only to get stuck and feel like dying once again. But don't wallow in it. For the few moments of genuine progress is worth days of frustration. I once cut paper-cuttings of various useless stuff, tried to draw something on the wall to make myself peaceful. Something other than video games to lose myself in. Then when I calm down, I work once again. It may or may not work out, but for few moments it gives me energy to work. See I think the more I work peacefully and cheerfully, the more I am able to work, i think. So wallowing in despair is not useful.

>>15373218

Nobody is teaching it because most people don't know anything about motivating themselves. You have to learn it on your own through trail and error.

>>15373221

>no fun games on the horizon, so that's a good inspiration to make shit

You can't really play your own game, so you're motivated by less competition or what?

>>15373619

There are no good games on the horizon, and there won't be unless I make one. That's where the motivation comes form.

I'm in wagecuck hell. At least I'm making a reasonable living, but I'd rather just stay home and make money selling good games.

>>15373619

Some things that all motivated, not-depressed, not-insufferable whiny faggots do:

at least 20 minutes of sunlight a day

they eat unprocessed fruits, vegetables, and meats

go to bed and sleep on a set schedule

moderate exercise 20-40 minutes 3 times a week, minimum

consistent scheduled work, "I will work on camera frustum culling tomorrow 8AM for 40 minutes."

set achievable goals for the day. If you cannot even set achievable goals, something is seriously wrong with your brain. Stop working on your game and Get Help.

>>15373700

>I will work on camera frustum culling tomorrow 8AM for 40 minutes

what if you finish in 10 minutes?

>>15373700

The one thing that really helped me was sleeping for exactly 8 hours at a consistent schedule. I never realized how tired I was until I got some decent rest.

As for work, I have a different ethic. I laid out a schedule for everything non-gamedev related, basic household chores, but for gamedev, I just keep working on what I started, each day, until I finish. It's mostly because with things like music, I need to be in a certain mindset to work on it, and some days, I just can't figure out what I should do to make it sound good. On top of that, if I put something off, I'll forget where exactly I was, or some small specific that will make finishing far harder than it should be. It's why right before bed, I detail what I should do, my current ideas for how to implement it, what I've already tried and any issues I have to address. I only really spend a max of one week on one goal, usually around three days. As long as I'm making some sort of progress, on either something I have to do immediately or later on, I count that as a plus.

>>15373777

You have a list of things to do. If you finish early you move onto the next thing on the list. If you finish late you push things later on the list to later times or the next day.

Also there's a rule of time management called Parkinsons's law. "Work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion". If you give yourself 40 minutes and it's a 10 minute job, it will still probably take 40 minutes anyway.

>>15373828

> If you finish early you move onto the next thing on the list. If you finish late you push things later on the list to later times or the next day.

Then what's the point of putting timers on things in the first place?

>>15374139

Psychology. In general people are more productive when they have a deadline, and people are better at not wasting time when they know how much time they are spending on various tasks.

Hey guys, I once saw a black background image with a list of old games ordered in complexity for the purposes of exercise. Does any anon have it?

>>15374244

No, but:

>pong

>snake

>breakout

>space invaders

>galaga

>tetris

>pac-man at least if you include the accurate ghost AI which includes pathfinding, else it'd be higher on the list

>gauntlet

>elite at least the flying, worldgen, and trading, leave out combat

Should be a decently ordered list to work through. Maybe throw in Donkey Kong before or after Galaga.

Last two are based on assignments I got in my second and third quarter of my first year in college, both of which had to be made alongside 3 other projects plus math classes. They're deceptively simple.

>>15373777

wank sess

>>15373700

Also, please stop burning yourselves out. If you're doing amateur game development, chances are you aren't on any kind of deadline. So stop burning yourself out on 12 hour coding sessions. Work in small bursts with a break in-between. 2 hours and then take fifteen minutes to refill your drink, stand and stretch and to do something that isn't related to your project.

>>15373700

This is so fucking true, and one of the things that helped me realized I had ADHD was the reason that I fucked up way too often.

>>15373763

> buying better foods

> walk 3 miles a day

> walking puppy

> all for about three months now

Eat a grenade, kiddo.

Here is what I have of the Godot cheat sheet so far. I need to point out I didn't write most of this, it is just information put together of online searches for Godot info.

PART 1:

# ================================================================================
# [>>] Coding Cheat Sheet
#	>> DO NOT INSTANCE THIS SCRIPT <<
#
# ===============================================================
#	"#" is a comment character.  First use in any line of this character
#		segments any code to the right of this character as characters
#		ignored by the compiler during compilation and runtime.
#
# 	ALL TEXT IS CASE SENSITIVE
#
#	Space or Tab characters are entered before line code to determine
#		execution order
#
#	[>>] <== CTRL+F > Find Next / Find Previous skips segments
# ===============================================================
#
# ================================================================================
extends Node
	# ================================
	# Each script starts with:
	#	"extends [Object Type]"
	# This is by design of single inheritence;
	#	scripts can inherit properties and functions
	#	from a parent type or parent script.
	# All scripts derive from a Node type,
	#	all Nodes extend "Object".
	#
	# Important OOP Object List
	# Object
	#	> Node
	#		> Spatial
	#		> CanvasItem
	#			> Control
	#			> Node2D
	# ================================

# ================================================================================
# [>>] Variables
# ================================================================================
export (NodePath) var N = Node
	# ================================
	#	export (variable type) = Keyword, 
	#		variable value can be edited in 
	#		Inspector Dock in Godot Editor.
	#
	#	var = Variable Keyword
	#
	#	N = Variable Name
	# 		VARIABLES STARTING WITH A NUMBER CONFUSE THE COMPILER
	# 		ALL TEXT IS CASE SENSITIVE
	#
	#	"=" is an assignment Operator
	#
	#	N is now assigned to any Node Object.
	# ================================

var V1 = 0
	# ================================
	# Instance variable V2 as an Integer at a value of 0
	#
	# DON'T DO THIS: Var 1V
	# ================================

onready var root = get_tree().root
	# ================================
	# Get the root of the active tree
	#	onready = Variable is set to this value as _ready() is called.
	# ================================

onready var TempProjectName = (ProjectSettings.get_setting("Application/Config/Name"))
	# Get project name setting

>>15375666

# ================================================================================
# [>>] NOTES:
# ================================================================================	

# ===============================================================
# [>>] TRANSFORM
# ===============================================================
# Transform is an object containing a matrix of 12 numbers (Matrix 32) for the
#	rotation direction (pitch,yaw,roll) and a Vector3 for location (x,y,z)
#	> ``transform`` - direction (rotation) and a location Vector3(x,y,z)
#	> ``transform.origin`` - the local Vector3 position, scene center
#								parses the Transform to retrieve the global Vector3 position
#	> ``transform.basis`` - the local rotation
#	> ``get_global_transform()`` - get the absolute (global) rotation and coordinates
#			get_global_transform().origin - get Spatial global coordinates
#			get_global_transform().basis - get Spatial global rotation direction
#
#	> ``translation`` - the offset of this node from the origin of the scene
#	> ``get_translation()`` - returns the local Vector3 position
#
#	> ``rotation_degrees`` - the local rotation
#			set_rotation()
#
# Spatial nodes have translate methods:
#	> global_translate(Vector3(x,y,z))
#	> translate(Vector3(x,y,z))
#	> position += Vector3(x,y,z)
# ================================================================

# Example:
#	Imagine the Warthog from Halo.
	
# 	You have the Warthog (parent) and attached to the bed of the vehicle
#		there's a Turret Gun (as child). The Warthog is (initially) facing to negative z.
#		This Turret is i.e. 1m (meters) back from the center (0,0,0) of the Warthog.
#		Then it's local origin is Vector3(0,1,0).

#	Now the Warthog itself is following a course and is rotated.
#		The turret is also rotated relative to the parent.
#		(Points in a different direction than the Warthog.)

# 	When the Warthog moves 10m forward, the Warthog's origin (global and local)
#		changes to (0,-10,0). The Turret's local origin stays the same (get_transform().origin)
#		but the global origin (get_global_transform().origin) changes accordingly to (0,-9,0)

# 	If the Warthog turns instead 90° around the y-axis to the left,
#		the global origin of the Turret changes to (1,0,0). The local origin stays at (0,1,0)

#	Now you could get the local direction/rotation vector for z with:
#		get_transform().basis.z * -1
#			(-1 is only multiplied here to get the "forward" direction)
#			(The value above shows the relative positional offset 1m to the front of the (locally) rotated child.)

#		Useful for moving some other child object relative to the Turret in code.
#		Useful for raycasting and/or moving bullets/rockets.

>>15375666

>>15375669

# ===============================================================
# [>>] ORIGIN
# ===============================================================
#	It is a Vector 3 property with x/y/z coordinates.
#	In global context (get_global_transform().origin) is the 
#		absolute coordinates in 3D context. 
#		(Also known as translation vector)

# If the object is a child object of another spatial,
#	get_transform() gets local coordinates inside the parent objects coordinate space.

# This is the C++ code for translate:
	# ===============================================================
	# void Transform::translate(const Vector3 &p_translation) {

	#	for (int i = 0; i < 3; i++) {
	#		origin[i] += basis[i].dot(p_translation);
	#	}
	# }
	# ===============================================================

# ===============================================================
# [>>] BASIS
# ===============================================================
#	It is a rotation matrix property which determines Spatial orientation.
#
# Most of the time, you might want to use the global rotation direction.

# If your object "looks" forward in the direction of its local z-axis
#	then the forward vector should be:
#	get_global_transform().basis.z.normalized()

# Left/Right movement along "basis.x"
# Up/Down movement along "basis.y"

# This is a Matrix32. It contains 3 x Vector3. One for each axis.
#	These vectors tell where the original x/y/z Vectors point after the rotation.
# 	So if the object points forward (I mean: no rotation). Then the vectors are like this:
# 	basis.x = Vector3(1,0,0)
# 	basis.y = Vector3(0,1,0)
# 	basis.z = Vector3(0,0,1)

# You rotate the object 90° to the left (around y-axis) then the values are like this
#	basis.x = Vector3(0,0,-1)
#	basis.y = Vector3(0,1,0)
#	basis.z = Vector3(1,0,0)

# The columns of a rotation matrix can be thought as the local axes of the 
#	coordinate system "painted" on the object, so it's typically
#	called "basis" in game engines.

# Where basis is a Basis [Matrix3], and the bracket operator [] is
#	overloaded to return the Vector3 elements that makeup the matrix.
#	Going to the scale method in the Basis class, we can see that scale
#	is applied immediately to the Vector3 elements that make the matrix,
#	so all the elements are pre-scaled by the time we do the calculation
#	in translate. As such, 'translate' can't multiply the distance by the
#	scale, as the origin and current translation have already had the 
#	scale baked in so to speak.

# Angles vs. vectors:
#	You have to get used to the aspect that the direction is defined by
#	vectors and not by angles. There are reasons for this (gimbal lock) which
#	I won't (and probably can't) detail here. You should just avoid angles as much
#	as possible when calculation with rotation in 3D as you often won't get usable
#	results. Generally it should be ok to use set_rotation() on spatials but don't
#	expect to get the same angles back on get_rotation() ;-)
# ================================================================================

>>15375669

>>15375666

>>15375673

Throw it on the wiki satan

Why the fuck are std::floor() and std::ceil() so slow?

>>15375728

Maybe try eastd?

>>15373815

>be tired every day

>start going to sleep 4 fucking hours earlier than normal just to try it out

>don't feel any better

>the only difference is that I have 4 hours less free time to do things

>>15375785

did you try waking up earlier in addition to going to bed early?

>>15375785

Unless you used to sleep 2-4 hours every night, 4 hours extra is way too much. Oversleeping also makes you feel like shit, and anon's figure of 8 hours a day is also different for everyone. I personally work better with 6 hours a day, many people need 7 hours, others 8. It depends on how long your REM sleep cycles are, which you can't really find out without help of specialized doctors, or just trying out various lengths of sleep for a while.

What >>15375844 suggests might also help, or just the opposite. People are all wired to be awake at different times of the day, which is useful if you live in a tribe and need someone to keep watch at all times. In modern times it just means that some people are fucked because their ideal sleeping time is during normal working hours, or they miss their ideal sleeping time because they're early sleepers but feel they have to go drinking with friends/colleagues every night.

If you're actually feeling like shit because of a lack of decent sleep all the time, go see a doctor. If it's a minor inconvenience, just try experimenting with your sleep.

>>15375711

Gimme a link so I can do it when I'm off work.

I really ask because I have no idea how to use the wiki to make a page.

>>15376016

It's easy to make a page, just use the base site:

http://8agdg.wikidot.com/

and add anything to the end like

http://8agdg.wikidot.com/godot-tips

If it's a null page, it will prompt u to create a page. After that stuff is done, add a link on the godot engine page (http://8agdg.wikidot.com/godot).

If u need wiki formatting tips, just hit "view source" on the top nav bars on a formatted page to see formatting in the wiki style, or use the integrated gui tools in the text box for formatting.

>>15376264

What type of game is this and which program is that? It looks interesting!

>>15376325

Which program do you use? I use rpgm because other ones I tried weren't that great.

>>15376305

>There's a free demo you can download and play if you don't care to pay for the game

Well I guess you're still better than most of the vidya industry.

>>15376305

>selling your shitty RPG maker maze game

>>15376305

What kind of name is Cedda?

>>15376365

How's the demo?

>>15376362

What do you think of the game?

>>15376382

All the characters have Anglo Saxon names.

>>15376414

Give the full game for free

>>15376414

Since you decided to charge money for it I'm going to judge it as a commercial game, and on that note it's utter garbage not worth anyone's time.

>>15376305

>Charging for the equivalent of three decade old shareware

>RPG Maker

Made my morning, thanks.

>>15376558

No

>>15376617

Alright

>>15376636

Try the demo before you judge the game.

>>15376676

So buy a candybar? I'm not forcing you to buy my game. I'm just asking for advise on what's good and what's bad about the game, hence why I'm advising to play the demo before judging the game. Now, you say it looks like shovelware. Is it the art? The music? The program I used?

>>15376718

all of it

if you're making a game that doesn't do anything more than any of the other rpgmaker games, why should we treat it any better?

this is mainly why it doesn't get used anymore - it's very limited in what it allows you to do

>>15376727

What program do you use?

>>15376740

Hypocrite.

>>15376738

Godot is pretty fun for a codelet like myself.

And yourself

>>15376754

When used properly Unity is a good engine, i used RPG Maker as i kid, it is fucking baby mode.

>>15376760

Whatever you gotta tell yourself. I'm not going to judge your game by Unity, though, I'm going to judge it by its content.

>>15376762

I'll give Godot a shot, thanks anon. I'm always looking for new programs to try out. I've tried Construct, Gamemaker, and one other, but I didn't like them.

>>15376769

Unity sucks, but can turn out good games when a good designer uses it. It's not the tool, but creativity, that counts the most.

>>15376780

So what do you think of the level design in my game? What about it do you like or dislike?

>>15376791

i'm not interested in it enough to care about the level design

in C# does Thread.Sleep() actually pause the damn thread? if so is the correct way to make a Timer object, and then call invoke the method you wanted delayed with a Timer.Tick() += method

>>15373218

'Boo hoo I don't have motivation' is a bullshit excuse. People that are productive aren't magicking up motivation out of their ass, they're sitting down and getting something done because they know it won't get done otherwise. If you don't have the willpower to close your browser and focus on something then just admit that to yourself and work on improving that. You're not going to grow if you only make excuses.

>>15373218

>When your life is secure but stagnant

Not a coincidence. Motivation requires a lack of security (insecurity about finances, health, tribe wellbeing, ect.). Like that other anon said the degrading state of the industry can be a great motivator.

>>15376834

>I don't understand the problem but I'm going to tell you what's right anyway

>>15376948

The problem sounds like you want sympathy and no-one to challenge your point of view.

>>15376972

What you're doing is the equivalent of calling depressed people stupid for being depressed. You don't solve the problem by telling them that the problem isn't real and pointing a finger at non-depressive people.

>>15376985

Your example would be good if there weren't so many people on the internet claiming to be depressed even though they are causing it themselves by avoiding any form of confrontation.

Every long-term projects forces you to face a lack of motivation. People have their own methods of doing it, some build a schedule, others use their self-discipline to force themselves to do it. But if you think you can come to /agdg/ and blogpost about your own lack of motivation whilst others are constantly fighting against it, whilst not giving even the slightest hint of wanting to improve, then do you really think a single person here will give you sympathy?

>>15377046

The shortage of finished games coming from /agdg/ tells me this problem isn't as trivial as you seem to want to think.

>whilst not giving even the slightest hint of wanting to improve

What do you want me to do? Suck your cock with compliments because you told me the problem isn't real? I wouldn't be complaining if "wanting" was enough to fix it.

>>15377095

>What do you want me to do?

Ask for help instead of bitching about it.

>>15376390

YES! But there are barely any games in that one. I must be remembering a different one.

>>15376985

I'm not doing that at all. People suffering depression need outside help and often medication to correct their hormonal imbalance. I had depression as a teenager and I've every sympathy for someone stuck in that type of rut where your life feels hopeless - but that sounds nothing like the context you gave. You're painting yourself as the victim for being unable to concentrate on making a game rather than shitposting or other distractions - by your own words. We get posts like yours not too rarely and the vast majority of the time they don't want any actual help or solutions, they want a pity party. If that's not the right context then fucking elaborate instead of just blubbering that I don't understand.

>>15377116

Fuck you Todd. Your games are shit.

>>15377116

Sage negated. How can practice gamedev be off-topic?

>>15377106

>Ask for help

That's basically what I did. When I say "I have x problem", I'm not only venting my frustration but also indirectly querying for people who have/had the same or know of ways to alleviate it, even if I don't specifically ask for it.

>>15377115

>You're painting yourself as the victim

>they don't want any actual help or solutions, they want a pity party

Sounds like you already decided what I am on your own. Just because I don't force out a reply doesn't mean I'm not listening and considering the things people are saying.

>If that's not the right context then fucking elaborate

I'm not here for detailed psychological diagnosis, the exact specifics of how I feel don't matter.

>>15376805

>does Thread.Sleep() actually pause the damn thread?

Not a C# programmer but that's how it works. Also it's not very precise.

>>15377107

There's a few floating around but it's a decent list. If you want game specific ones the list >>15374369 gave should keep you busy a while. I'd recommend that you try and do your own solutions before going and seeing someone else's, if you're comfortable enough in programming. That way you can compare implementations.

>>15377175

>Sounds like you already decided what I am on your own.

You mean just like how you assumed I was callous and didn't understand depression, a thing that I personally went through? And now you're going to pick up your ball and go home because acknowledging that the problem may be in your attitude is something you're not comfortable doing, despite 'wanting help'.

>>15377241

You keep going on about how it's "just your attitude" and imply that these kind of problems will go away just by telling people that their attitude is dumb, so no, you do not understand depression.

Anyway I feel like I'm talking to a tree so this shall be my last reply on the topic.

>>15376805

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa332371(v=vs.71).aspx

The answer by the way is no. What Sleep does is suspend the threads' execution by the specified time, after which it will be rescheduled to run. Unless Windows is told to do otherwise, it will by default schedule threads at a frequency of 64Hz. This means that calling Sleep(1) can easily cause your thread to sleep for 15 milliseconds. There's also the issue that you are not at all guaranteed by Windows to even be scheduled within a reasonable amount of time; if the OS is running tons of shit than a Sleep(1) can cause your application to sleep for seconds, possibly even minutes.

If you want to determine the amount of time passed between two points in code, you use a high-accuracy timer supplied by the OS, such as stopwatch: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.diagnostics.stopwatch?view=netframework-4.7.2

If you want to produce ticks as accurately timed as possible, then you should calculate the amount of time until the next tick, round it down to milliseconds, and Sleep() that amount. You should continue doing this until there is less than 1ms remaining, at which point you execute your tick, but adjust your timer variables as if the tick occurred at the correct time. (Rather than <-1ms off.)

If you desperately want maximum accuracy, then you can do a Sleep(0) as well when the time remaining is less than 1ms, and run it until you're close enough to the next tick time as you believe is necessary. Sleep(0) will not suspend the threads execution, but will make the thread give up its timeslice to other threads if they're available. This means that if your thread is the only thing running, Sleep(0) does nothing, but if there's another program running and all your logical cores are busy, that program gets a turn. By using Sleep(0), you are guaranteeing that other threads can continue functioning whilst your thread does nothing.

>>15377300

>these kinds of problems

The problems you won't elaborate on while at the same time say no-one understands?

>you do not understand depression

>you don't understand something you had

The absolute irony of you using this after chastising others for it.

>Anyway I feel like I'm talking to a tree so this shall be my last reply on the topic.

You've repeatedly refused to engage or actually talk about the issue so this is no surprised and why I called it in my last post. You may think I'm being a cunt but I do actually want to help you if you want to make games and something is hampering you. We need more yesdevs. My very first post offered basic general advice that if you're struggling with distractions then focus improving that. You've offered nothing but 'you're wrong' since then. At any rate, I'll agree not to derail the thread further.

>>15377349

As a minor addendum that is probably more relevant to your issue; you are also not guaranteed that if multiple threads sleep for different durations, that they will be rescheduled in the "correct order".

Timing in programming is a really fucky thing to get right, and you really should only be messing with it if you are enginedevving. Otherwise, you should simply use the timing objects your engine gives you and never ever try to implement those yourself.

What would lasagna code look like?

>>15377365

I'm writing a Decal plugin for Asheron's Call (the server emulator is starting to thrive), and the the Decal filters have no timing objects. I don't need it terribly accurate which is why I was thinking maybe the latter was the better way… assuming it doesn't involve the scheduler?

>>15377404

Ideally you would have your plugin respond to a callback from a timer or tick event. Otherwise, creating a thread that sleeps in a loop for 1/<frequency your server runs at> seconds is probably good enough, but then you run into the issue of thread synchronization which is another can of worms. I don't think anyone here can really help you with that.

>>15377450

Unfortunately the server emulator is a pile of shit that can't really be relied on for timing. As long as creating a timer object and firing a custom event at whatever interval doesn't pause the thread i think i'm ok with that even if it's "wrong".

>>15377470

Are you the same anon that posted a set of songs a while ago showing his progression? Music is a mystical black box to me, so it's been nice to watch someone improve over time.

>>15377302

This is the kind of advice I was looking for, thank you anon.

I should've been clearer about the speed and made the mazes bigger, although there are some bigger mazes later in the game. I wanted to start off small to let the player get used to the controls and gameplay.

I'll add puzzles and more diverse environments in the sequel. This game was very samey because I didn't have a lot to work with. But next time I will.

The wall without a flower is an error. It's actually the flowers that are the "wall." There are secrets, though; look for the patches that don't match up with the rest of the environment.

The levels in the demos are the first few levels in the game.

I included RTP because VX Ace doesn't give you a choice. It sucks because it makes the file so much bigger.

I'm checking out Godot as a better alternative to rpgmaker, wish me luck!

>>15377936

He's not generally retarded as a person, but for some reason, everybody who loves video games and wants to make a video game but knows nothing about coding ends up with completely unrealistic expectations about how much work goes into making these things and what mechanics actually go together to make a fun game. For some reason, people look at a large building that took dozens of people several months to put up and think "There's no way I could make that", but they look at a video game that took a staff of over 100 people more than a year to develop and think they could reasonably do it in their free time.

I'm fully expecting him to get burned out and give up once he realizes how much work it is even designing, redesigning, and polishing a couple dozen full 2D platforming stages. I'm not going to let him just ideaguy around, he has to do some gruntwork if he wants to be a part of this thing.

>>15377972

>>15378015

I'm not just talking about the scale of their ideas, but describing their gameplay in ways like "a mix between Dark Souls and Diablo 2." It's like they dream up some crappy vidya setting and slap a mix of popular vidya mechanics onto it, usually showing they understand vidya design and mechanics much less than the average /v/ anon.

>>15376305

>>15377675

I downloaded this promptly forgot about it. After a while seeing a 200mb zip on my drive I gave a shot. Now I only know unity and gms but i'm sure no this kind of game is supposed to be 200mb. You have a shitload of pngs of some rpg that you didn't want in it. Remove that.

Firstly, the game starts in a window. I think rpgmaker allows you to start the game in a specific resolution. Then the first menu you see is [Start], [Diary] and [Finish]. The menu should be [Start], [Options] or [Settings], [Quit] or [Exit Game]. Finish doesn't specify what you wan to finish - the game? the story? your one character. Quit is for quitting the application. Exit Game is Exit game. [Options] should be for your [Choices], I don't know why you it. The fullscreen/window [yes] choice should be replaced by a single [toggle] choice. [No] choice doesn't do anything. Cat selection and volume should be in here.

After starting the game ask if the player has played before. Asking for name isn't too important but is ok.

>>15378077

Also why did you charge this game?

>>15378057

That's not one I can answer, it always seems disrespectful to your own game to just boil it down to "X meets Y with FOTM element". I think that if you can accurately and adequately describe a game like that, your game doesn't really have much a leg to stand on and there's little need for it to exist.

>>15378128

I remember one thread not too long ago where there were at least three anons, myself included, posting and talking about their music.

>>15378144

>I think that if you can accurately and adequately describe a game like that, your game doesn't really have much a leg to stand on and there's little need for it to exist.

Comparing FPS movement to other games might be acceptable unless you're adding some weird movement gimmicks, since most first person games sound almost identical when described but feel very different in practice. It's kind of an execution-heavy genre where small implementation differences will greatly affect how the game plays.

>>15378144

>I remember one thread not too long ago where there were at least three anons, myself included, posting and talking about their music.

Well I haven't been here in a few months so I missed that.

>>15374860

So, in other words, just start with something, wing it, and hope for the best?

>>15379788

You're intelligent enough to figure out where to start learning or otherwise steer in the right direction once you've started. If you can't do that then you have no future in gamedev. From experience, I can say the hardest step is the first, the one that requires overcoming self-doubt and lethargy. Once inertia is established things fall into place.

>>15379788

That's life advice right there

I still can't figure out a good way to handle object interactions with my puzzle game

>>15379998

Events?

Is there a design pattern relevant for a class whose role it is to manage the life cycle of a group of other instances of a specific type?

>>15380149

>>15380394

You're too advanced for me to understand but congratulations on your apparently superb optimizations!

>>15377470

So I'm a devfag who used to musicfag and I just want to say: look in to the concept of Motif. Motif is how you make strong compelling songs, and motif is primarily a mix harmonic and rhythmic ideas repeated and improvised upon over a song. It can be something as simple as a small syncopation that you repeat (good example: on the downbeat you play a high note). The way I'll generally make a song is I'll create a chord progression where I make one musical idea and then I'll play with that musical idea in every other instrument (usually first my bass or lead) and over different sections to flesh out the song. Just my two-cent tip for making a catchy song.

>>15380025

I'll be more specific than I have been in the previous threads asking about this shit.

It's not that events are the problem, but that I don't know how to organize things effectively. I have flags that affect behavior (can_sink, is_falling, etc), but then I also have to consider some way to track places objects can go (eg player-only passages that monsters can't use, or preventing the player from walking onto a fire tile unless they have the proper item, unless they're pushed onto it, etc). On top of that, there are also actor-actor (adjacent) and actor-tile interactions (occupy same tile), such as rocks falling into water.

The part that's hardest is trying to extract this into a user-friendly way to be able to define items and behavior from text files, rather than recompiling

>>15380510

>FRAPS causes up to 33% drop in FPS, never use it!

>>15380528

tbh it still works better, the fps drop here is at least consistant while with obs its all over the place

>>15380528

anything under 10,000 is literally unplayable. When your frames take 0.0000833ms, fraps really hurts.

Had abandoned learning to use love2d some time ago, started getting back into the other day and just looking at the stuff I did in the tutorials doesn't make sense any more.

Had one test from following a tutorial on making maps, and I think I gave up where the tutorial ended (which was immediately after the section on modularity by separating map functions into a separate file), and the tutorial has been continued to this day, also what it teaches causes maps to draw at smaller and smaller scales the bigger they are, leading to a lot of empty space in window and a map for ants.

So I'm really unsure about where to go from here, clearly I need to relearn how to draw maps to the window properly, and I've only just found the topics that cover a gridlocked player and isometric graphics.

>>15380394

>>15380149

The reason why it is a fuckton faster is because your GPU was just sitting around doing absolutely fucking nothing most of the time.

GPU's can render a shader program many times concurrently these days, and since you don't use order-dependent rendering (no alpha blending, depth testing is on), you don't lose anything from doing this.

Given how little triangles you have, I wouldn't be surprised if most GPU's end up drawing literally all the triangles at the same time.

If you want to reduce API calls more:

>Don't set clear color every frame (-1)

>Don't enable textures every frame (-1)

>Don't change polygon mode every frame (-1)

>Don't unnecessarily enable/disable depth test (-2)

>replace the fixed pipeline with a custom shader one (OpenGL2+). Then you'll have a glUseProgram and glUniformMatrix4fv instead of glLoadIdentity + glPushMatrix + glMultMatrixf + glPopMatrix for your first batch (-2) and then glPushMatrix + glScalef + glPopMatrix for your second batch. (-1) You could also reuse the same shader program to forego glUseProgram calls, but that's retarded.

>Replace glBindBuffer and glVertexPointer/glColorPointer/glTexCoordPointer as well as enabling the glColorArray with a single VAO per batch. (OpenGL3+) (-7)

>If the textures are of the same size & format, you could merge them into a single GL_TEXTURE_2D_ARRAY (OpenGL3+) allowing you to do those 3 multiDraws & binds in a single one (-4) You could share a single GL_TEXTURE_2D_ARRAY between different batches to forego texture binds but this is also retarded.

33 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 2 - 1 - 7 - 4 = 33-19 = 14 calls. It wont make a significant difference in performance since you're not actually doing anything retarded.

>>15382216

Learn music, the rest of that is garbage.

>>15382233

—he said, in an /agdg/ thread.

>>15382216

Finish the anime drawing, learn music, and then decide which game you want to make. Replicating the first 2hu would probably be the easiest, and then go from there.

>>15382216

>>make a remake of the first touhou

DO IT FAGGOT

>>15382412

Oh, for /animu/? In that case, DEW IT.

>>15380953

I'm looking at how I can optimize it for my ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 card, since that is my optimization target. Right now I am rewriting the system that draws the console to use less calls, but I am going to set it up to use shaders ARB assembly shaders after that. Right now I get ~200 FPS on my ATI card.

>>15382590

Programmer art or opengameart.org

There's no reason to not go through with it just because it'll look like shit.

>>15382590

>make a stick figure on blender

>>15382600

I've been looking for sprite sheets for a bit, on that site as well as itch.io, but i can't find a fucking simple fightan game sprite sheet. It needs just walking, a couple of slightly telegraphed attack animations, stagger and some sort of riposte or block, but everything ive found is lacking some of that. I might have to try and do them myself, but im just terrible at animation. I don't even give a fuck about the art, they can be stick figures for all i care.

Is someone compiling all the good advice in these threads or does it all go down the drain when the thread dies?

>>15382627

http://8agdg.wikidot.com/agdg/%20thread%20archive

Not everything is saved. But a lot of it is archived here.

>>15382627

It usually goes down the drain. If you want to keep something, either archive it or save a copy to your computer.

>>15382628

Thank you, can you recommend a program for posing / animating?

>>15382673

try blender.

I'm trying to think of a steed or a warbeast for a mod I'm making featuring dark elves, mostly inspired by the D&D favor. What are some cave creatures or underground animals youbthink would be cool to see?

>>15382754

Giant insects! Can be a spider, worm, indistinct 6 legged burrowing crawler, etc

>>15382216

Go with whichever one you're actually capable of completing.

>>15382776

Or, if you think you can do all of them, go with whichever one you would actually enjoy doing. It's pretty terrible to start something, end up hating it but you still feel like you should finish it.

>>15383279

Hey, thanks. I've been casually working on it since October of last year, mostly doing non-visual engine stuff, but it's kind of embarassing to call it engine work when Sigmadev is doing a really good job of it. Hopfeully I'll have something you can mess aroudn with next demo day.

>>15383471

Make the next FEAR anon. You can do it.

>>15383471

Is there a term for the kind of light that is reflected on the back wall? It seems to reflect just the light but none of the scene

any news about Turtle waifu arena FPS?

Is it a bad idea to have loads of spells like teleport self, teleport other, teleport all in area etc or damage other, damage all in area, damange other over time, damage in area over time?

I get that I can make some of them contextual but I'm thinking that at some point there will be too many and all you really want is to spam auto attack nearest enemy anyway.

Do any anons have a good guide for reverse engineering games? I installed IDA pro recently

>>15380496

>ECS

elastic container service?

>>15383877

Yeah I need to think about this more.

>>15384102

Do the opposite. Put the spells in and then evaluate if you have too many or not.

>>15384255

s-showwy *shtawts cwyin*

>>15384291

Go back to reddit.

Or better yet, hang yourself so I can be assured that I don't breath the same air with an insufferable faggot like you.

>>15385106

>does sleep deprivation help productivity?

When it comes to anything with complex problem solving, no. Very much the opposite. My peak productivity is shortly after waking up after a good sleep.

>>15385521

>All graphics done in MSPaint

>All music and SFX done by recording your voice

>Story is written by picking random words in a dictionary

>>15385106

>Is it just me, or does sleep deprivation always help productivity?

Are you on crack or something? It should be the opposite

>>15385521

Cuck mcgee's journey of salvation when he leaves 8chan and finds a paradise called Reddit.

So if I'm reading everything right, it looks like the recommended order from start to profit for solo projects is

>base game engine

>network backend

>loot box system

>dlc preplanning

>game design concepts

>early access paperwork

Does this seem reasonable?

>>15386003

Did you spend 6 months blowing your ideas out of proportion in notepad? This is a vital step.

>>15385889

I wish I was on drugs, then I'd either have no problem making progress or I'd have an excuse for not making progress. I do have a problem focusing when I'm rested though, like I can't funnel that mental clarity into single tasks whereas if I'm sleep deprived it's like having tunnel vision, whatever I put in front of myself becomes the focal point.

>>15386003

>game design concepts

>before a base game engine or network backend

Do you just want to produce yet another buggy piece of shit in Unity or Unreal?

guy woirks in babby engines/game makers but his observations are very insightful

How do yesdevs overcome the fear of being demonized by the world for posting their game here?

>>15386117

b-but marketing!

>>15374447

Christ, is this some babby's substitute for programming? Fucking gitgud.

>>15386049

You have it backwards, but also, I was jesting.

>>15386021

jej

>>15386182

Forgive my faggotry, but you're severely underestimating this place. Imageboards are the source of internet public opinion. Mainstream memes are created here (I'm not just talking about silly images). And since marxists hate this place, any dev who posted early prototypes and engaged this community would be blasted by legacy media once their game released to the public. Maybe that would boost sales these days though.

>>15386221

nobody cares honestly beyond some meme twitter faggots, just don't post niggers and jews should be genocided on social media.

>>15386003

>Loot boxes

>DLC and loot boxes coming before game design concepts

Well you certainly nailed the cancerous AAA philosophy

>>15386221

Just don't say faggot or use "jewish" as an insult and nobody cares.

>>15386266

Meme twitter faggots control vidya game sites which moms read before buying their kids a game.

>>15386284

just don't post pol garbage and don't insult people and don't complain about SJW on social media.

Just try to be a nice person, wow, so complicated.

>>15386092

>isn't fun

if you're a begginer maybe, but eventually you'll get better and start to enjoy it.

>>15386295

Would having posted here alone not be enough for game sites to try and destroy you?

>>15386399

nobody gives a fuck to be honest.

anyone here has ever tried to make PBR materials?

>>15386423

I've made some PBR weapons textures.

>>15383471

>new holes in the lampshade don't produce new paths for the light to shine through

Close, but no cigar.

>>15386515

substance painter can't even run that shit on my toaster.

>>15386515

>that pixelization

L-lewd

>>15386736

Basically practice good Opsec. Opsec that keeps you safe from these people isn't trivial, but it's not to the levels of hiding from a directed government investigation.

>>15386736

You're not getting my point. The hypothetical scenario is that I release a game that has been sporadically posted in /agdg/ threads when it was unfinished. Journos and marxists then lambast me for frequenting 8chan. Get called nazi, moms believe it and won't buy their kids the game.

>>15386513

yeah, the shader doesn't work for shadow maps. I looked for possible simple fixes to that but haven't found anything within my capabilities

>>15386884

If your game gets big enough that journalists can make clickbait articles about you being a nazi, you've already made it.

>>15386884

>implying moms read up on what they buy their kids

>implying the kids won't see you being called a nazi on kotaku and want the game even more

It'd be free advertising, you're more likely to just get ignored.

>>15386884

Getting shit on by kotaku-likes for making a soggy-knee-fille game won't do shit to your sales numbers, in fact it might actually increase them because anti-sjws actually buy games and stuff. The max that journalists can do is harass you on twatter or kikebook, but then you can always just close the damn tab and get off these sites like you should have from the beginning.

Unless if you are a /pol/ack and sperg too hard on your game, then you can actually get fired from your real job and shit like that.

>>15386884

>Get called a nazi

At this point we should just own it, because nazi is clearly the antithesis of the lunacy that they subscribe to.

>>15386944

I know that feeling, I made a script for generating animated images like a year and a half ago, and at first it was making a fuckton of writes to disk because first it wrote an svg file for generating an image (for every frame), then made tweaks to each frame, and for every effect that was added after the initial image was generated there was another svg file, and if there was 100+ frames it could have been over 600 writes.

After revising the script, there was only 2+(number of frames*2) because there's a base image that determines height/width and one after-effect that can't be done in memory with everything else, but learning how to do most of the editing in memory before making a write was a real game changer. Also shortened up the script by like 200 lines.

>>15387005

>>15387003

>>15387031

>>15387108

Yeah you're right. I'm just being a faggot. Time to start working on the game.

>>15386884

Has that ever happened? You're imagining paranoid scenarios. Smear campaigns against individuals by the media always rely on getting them fired or doxing them. If you take doxing out of equation, then it all comes down to who your customer is. Parents don't care about what Kotaku or Polygon have to say about your game. They might care if CNN were to starts shitting on you, but for that to happen your game would already have to be pretty popular.

That is to say, your worries are more realistic if you plan on working in the industry in the future. If you decide to use the game or assets you posted here as a portfolio, then you could have some problems if someone recognized that you're That Anon From /agdg/ Who Wants To Snort Jewish Ashes Off Of Tranny's Dick. Then again, unless you act like a retard, I wouldn't worry too much even if your real life name got connected to this place, since some guy from CdProjekt didn't seem to give shit and posted his game here before being driven off for being an insufferable faggot

Christ how do I avoid skipping days? It feels like every other day is a toss-up between "I AM SO PRODUCTIVE" (get nothing done) and "I FUCKING HATE EVERYTHING AND WANT TO WASTE MY LIFE PLAYING VIDEOGAMES" (get nothing done).

t. not a schizo

>>15387320

Set a schedule for minimal work and treat it like a job. Something like "every day at 8 PM, turn off distractions, don't go to 8ch or other things, and you have to explicitly work on your game for at least 30 minutes".

I did that for a while, and it actually helped a lot with motivation. A lot of what was holding me back was how little I felt like I was getting done. Some days when I was doing the scheduled work, I'd actually get way into it and go way longer, but even when I wasn't enjoying it much, I'd still get some stuff done and feel better about it, and I'd have more days where I feel motivated because I'm actually generally getting things done on a regular basis..

>>15386107

>>15386884

No one cares unless if you make it intentionally political. The Brutal Doom dev had more controversial views than you and yet his games are still popular.

The most that they'll do is refuse cover your games like they did with Hatred and Kingdom Come. The majority of consumers hate resent irrational gatekeepers and can see things for what they are, so they'll buy your product to spite them.

>>15386107

By accepting that my game's target audience are people who are either largely okay with this sort of environment or people who don't care about it. This includes accepting that even if someone started a smear campaign due to me posting my game here, it will barely have a negative effect on my bottom line, if any at all.

In the event that someone does come for me, I already have that planned out. I ignore them. They make accusations or complain about whatever they want, and I don't give them any of my time. I don't moderate any forums that I have the capacity to, as the people who try to "wake" anyone in those places will just get shat upon by people who don't care. I don't acknowledge they exist. The only times these people have had remotely any success with these tactics are when they target people who won't stop engaging with them. But me, I don't have anything they can take. They won't take my target audience. I don't want speaking arrangements at some hipster event. I don't want to build bridges with the 'indie scene'. I don't want to engage in any of that. So what are they going to do to me?

So if you are unable to shrug it off as paranoia, consider that in the worst case scenario, they don't have anything to take from you.

>>15388711

>>15388630

Is it supposed to look like it's head is hitting a trampoline at the lowest point?

>>15388711

Ribs need some work.

>>15380443

I did a quick read about leitmotif's before because I heard people say that the final fantasy music used a lot of leitmotif, at the time it felt something a little too abstract for me, but now reading about motif I think it's the next step to improve my music, thanks anon.

>>15389311

Amateurish.

>nfw your ECS turns into MVC

>nfw your architecture is just one big memory leak because you're too lazy to delete things right now

>>15389364

I briefly used Godot on Windows but I don't remember having any significant trouble with it.

>>15375666

http://8agdg.wikidot.com/godot

http://8agdg.wikidot.com/gdscript-cheat-sheet

http://8agdg.wikidot.com/godot-cheat-sheet

Here is babby's first wiki page bounce around. I'll update these as I get information, mostly doing this for myself but figure it'd be nice to have around for other people. Eventually I am turning what I can into an infographic.

>>15389364

Apparently Godot has a issue with first person controls giving players stuttering issues. I think it might be bad code, but I'm also willing to accept Godot is kind of a piece of shit sometimes.

>>15389460

>first person controls giving players stuttering issues

Thank you for confirming this. It totally has a major stutter/lag for FPS cameras. No idea why. My guess it's to due with the mouse input.

>>15390046

Discord niggers already confirmed it fake

>>15390046

It's fucking fake, you fucking nigger.

>>15390123

>>15390112

I don't think anything is conclusive yet but the fact that there are botnet niggers involved in it is reason to be suspicious.

>>15390124

>discord

>the chans

>being sorry about a joke going too far

This faggot.

>>15391300

http://gameprogrammingpatterns.com/component.html

>>15386423

If you target metallic/roughness instead of glossiness/specular it's very straightforward. The options are self-explanatory.

>>15383859

What do you mean specifically? For hacking, for recreating the game, for figuring out mechanics? For anything that has to do with rendering, use Renderdoc.

>>15389356

>>15391300

Look into these two ECS:

https://github.com/redxdev/ECS

>single header

>very easy

>anything is a component

Never had any issues with it over many small projects, made many small adjustments myself, the code is template hell but still easy to figure out

https://github.com/alecthomas/entityx

>larger than the first one

>proven to some degree, more performance oriented

>pretty much the same interface, also really easy

>>15391424

>What do you mean specifically? For hacking, for recreating the game, for figuring out mechanics? For anything that has to do with rendering, use Renderdoc.

For figuring out the mechanics or recreating the game, I never got reliable info about it in school so I figured that I should learn from the source. Thanks anon for giving out the rendering reverse engineering software.

>>15392372

>For figuring out the mechanics or recreating the game

Decompilation gives terrible results. Try and decompile a simple C program you write yourself, like say a fizzbuzz, and try to decipher the results. To make it worse, games are extremely complicated software, with mechanics that are probably buried in ECS-structures, maybe even network logic on top. You would probably have a hard time figuring out the mechanics if you had the plain source code, with decompilated source it's close to impossible.

Your best bet as for source code is extracting script files, like lua scripts for example, from the games packed binaries, but not every game uses them, and it is possible that even those are compiled / obscured in some further way.

So really i would recommend just looking at the game in a black-box scenario, extensively testing mechanics until you have them figured out. What game are you looking at?

>>15392452

I'm looking at Joint Operations: Typhoon Rising and Red Faction Guerrilla. I want to see how geomod works since it doesn't seem to use octrees.

Why is it so difficult for developers to make use of multi cores? Why isn't it as easy as offloading different aspects of the game to sets or individual cores?

I have no drawing or musical ability, so I'm going to make a game that's purely text based.

>>15390892

is it good?

>>15392542

is in alpha, so basically buggy, but you can test it and report bugs.

>>15392512

Managing threads manually tends to require OS specific code, race and async logic errors are notoriously hard to debug, and it requires a programming paradign that isn't always applicable to gamedev

>>15392501

How it works as in how they did what exactly? The destruction?

>>15392512

Try it yourself. Most game logic depends on each other. Spawn these particle effects? Depend on wether the spell triggered. Ask game logic. Did the spell trigger? Depends on wether the projectile hit. Ask physics. Did the projectile hit? And so forth.

And rendering is often using multiple cores nowadays, because it is one of the few things that can be parallelized well.

>>15392062

¿Quién te dejó salir de la cajita, hijo puta?

Que bueno que quieras hacer juegos, pero práctica más tu dibujo.

>>>/monster/289731

>>>/loomis/

>>15392507

A text engine? Good. I don't know much but it should be "It's a steel knife with wooden handle" instead of color.

>>15392590

no a programer, just see people complain about how hard it is to do so.

>>15392590

>How it works as in how they did what exactly? The destruction?

I want to figure out how they handled the destruction while keeping it's performance. I noticed that some objects disappeared, but it doesn't seem to be intrusive.

>>15392969

I meant try it as in a thought experiment. The problems are serial even on a non-technical level.

>>15392961

>A text engine? Good.

Thanks.

>it should be "It's a steel knife with wooden handle" instead of color.

The "look" command is supposed to be what you see at a glace. I have the "examine" command for more in depth information.

If the material of the handle and blade are obvious at a glance, then I'll include those under the "look" command. Even if I'm not changing the text your criticism helped me formalize this idea into a rule to keep future writing consistant.

If you're curios, you get the following when you examine this specific knife.

>The knife's metal blade is about 7 inches long and coated in a matte black finish of some sort. The brown handle is about 5 inches long and appears to be made of stacked rings. The letters "USMC" are stamped at the base of the blade on one side, and "KA-BAR OLEAN NY" is stamped on the other side.

With what I have planned, if the character has points put into the knives/swords skill then the game would say "steel" instead of "metal", give specifics about the black finish, and it would tell you the rings are made from hard leather. On the other hand if you don't read English or are really dumb it wouldn't tell you what was written on the blade and just say "some symbols can be found at the base of the blade on both sides".

>>15393161

low polypika

>>15392512

If making a single threaded game can already be complex when you have lots of moving parts, making a multi threaded game increases the number of problems exponentially by the number of cores used.

>>15392514

Learn art, it's not magic, little by little you can learn.

>>15393574

Oh yeah. I downloaded every image from tkmiz's twitter to use as wallpaper. There's a few photos mixed in there but having a new appealing wallpaper every minute is really fun.

>>15393560

where is that cute girl from?

>>15393586

google

>>15385521

A game where you play as feminists trying to destroy western society

> "I am going to leave 8chan forever very soon."

Hah, good one mate.

>>15393585

Do you have the newest pictures from his twitter or did you just download that one dump?

Anon that is trying something with animation here.

Last time IIRC, I was trying to load animations. Which was done some time ago and I tried to make it work with uniforms in the shader which also worked.

Except that it's for a single instance of a model, all other instance would run at the same time than the first, so I had to muck around and saw that using a texture buffer can work around this limitation, adding some animation data per instance.

Now that I know where the challenge is, I will have some time to ponder on it since the test animation code will be used for 1 or 2 boss, and the rest is conventional animation.

I also prepared some ground for the start menu, as well as a small rendering loop where I can test and develop gameplay related code. This also served as a quick test on what I understood of OpenGL 3.0+ operations with shaders.

Current task: Link with enemy instance and small script -> Script manager -> animation and rendering loop

I have wrote on paper what I would need, "only need" to code it now, in between other stuff and drawing training.

>>15394163

Post the best mask, you fuck.

>>15394163

If you guys decide to sell DTM2, please upload a version to torrent sites with everyone's face chaikafied. The only DRM you'll ever need.

>>15394587

tbh try and actually finish it first

i've had "finished" mechanics for months now and i've still hardly done anything beyond that

>>15394613

good stuff

>>15394587

try to finish your game, then maybe make a sequel on godot.

>>15394613

>ahegao face for smelling donuts

no

>>15395501

From what you're saying display width and height are for how many tiles in each dimension are in view, which is why when you increase them but aren't changing the window size you're not able to pan as much. That's also why if you increase the tile size with the same window size you need to lower them.

It'd be easier if you just pastebin the code.

>>15395572

you know that's a placeholder for a dick in the game

>>15395939

godot or mugen or 2D fighter maker.

>>15386107

Just don't post your views on social media.

>>15396014

>Don't post stuff that's not the game on social media

You'd be amazed at how almost every developer struggles with this. Even when they don't outright post it I've gotten those dumb "This person liked this post" stuff and it's a bunch of SJW stuff-that-never-actually-happened posts.

>>15395575

No need to pastebin, it's all in the tutorial:

https://love2d.org/wiki/Tutorial:Fine_Tile-based_Scrolling

It just wasn't explained in a way that sunk in.

>>15395963

>Where are the Hatred devs now?

They seem to be doing just fine, since they managed to release their third game despite being shat on for both Hatered and ISIS Defence. They even got some award at this year's PAX according to their steam page.

>>15396221

There most recent game looks decent actually. As opposed to IS defender, which was literally a rail shooter. It gave me the impression they where suffering financially for such a barebones game genre.

>>15396191

It's a pretty piss poor tutorial. For example map_display_w shouldn't be hardcoded as 20, it should be something like map_display_w = math.ceil(love.graphics.getWidth() / tile_w). Assuming the map tiles are the static ground ones you should draw them to a framebuffer once and then just draw that instead of hundreds of tiles each frame. It's also teaching you the bad habit of throwing a lot of your variables into the global table which is shit for performance.

>>15396262

I can say that even having done the tutorial on tile scrolling before that (that tutorial links to fine tile-based scrolling and efficient tile-base scrolling as continued learning)

I had split up the code into separate files as I've seen in an admittedly better, although incomplete, tutorial that already introduced the use of quads.

So the tile array, map table, and majority of variables are stored in map1.lua and I use a function to load it from path in main.lua

So I've made map_display_buffer local to map_functions.lua which handles the draw_map() function and changed map_display_w/h to use that formula. Results in a bit of a black border appearing at the right and bottom edge of the map as it's scrolling just a bit beyond the boundaries, and I just found what's causing the cutoff of the tiles at the top and left edge, when it calls

love.graphics.call(tile[map[y+firstTile_y][x+firstTile_x]],((x-1)*tile_w) - offset_x - tile_w/2, ((y-1)*tile_h) - offset_y - tile_h/2)

the (x-1) and (y-1) creates that cutoff, but removing the -1 makes it show beyond the map boundary and raises hell when scrolling, but just setting it to -0.5 works to meet map boundary to window border.

As least now I feel somewhat validated in my confusion.

>>15393357

Forgive me if I don't understand but I think having both 'look' command and 'examine' command for the same object is redundant. The limitation of a text based game is that the player cannot infer an item or situation based on visual cues; it has to be told to them. So when you present a situation where a knife is at a table, you tell the player "You see a knife on the table". The player then inputs 'look' command, which returns "Its a black knife with dark brown handle", then the player inputs 'examine' command which returns "its 7 inches long etc.", depending upon whether the player character is adequately intelligent.

A better option would be 'look' command for general direction and areas, and 'examine' for specific object.

>>15393657

JUST LIKE MAKE GAME®

Incidentally, I'm stepping out of dev for a week or two because back to school at work is insane and I have no free time. I'll basically have all of September and most of October free, after Tuesday though, so I'm gonna try to come in with a fresh look, and plug away at more engine shit, like batched draw calls and shit

>>15396715

rated

>>15396715

PG-13

>>15396715

would bang

>>15396715

I rate 12 polygons

>>15396715

You'll never make it, cris.

>>15396785

I've made two games in the last month.

>>15396794

that's the size of loli heads in animu.

>>15396794

886 vertex total.

>>15396790

Okay, let me fix that. You'll never be successful or make anything of worth. Everything you've made for the past year two years? looks like shit, and you're immune to criticism.

>>15396800

Case in point.

>>15396807

It doesn't matter what I do or how much I try, is always shit to anons, so I just don't care a lot now.

>>15396813

You're not trying and you're not looking to improve. Stop posting "pls rate." with everything you make if you don't care.

>>15386884

Two things. If you only care for making a good game, and don't bow to the SJW cliche then you will be demonized regardless for being a shitlord. If you are a privilege checking, transsexual, starbucks chugging, left leaning parasite you'll be loved by the media.

>>15396819

I care but like I say, it doesn't matter what I do or what I post, is always shit.

I literally spend three days on a illustration for anons to call it garbage.

I even made a traditional animation by hand to have as reference and did several concept art to get a proper nice design and drew reference art to model it.

don't say I don't make the effort.

>>15396824

total implies all the things on that render.

the body is 700 vertex.

>>15396715

Nice proportions, polygon use, and posing, asshole.

>>15396895

>doesn't matter what I do or what I post, is always shit.

And your work will continue to be shit exactly because you don't care what people tell you. You will forever be an awful artist with that mindset. You should be taking criticism to heart and trying to fix your work, but you've decided not to in the entire time I've seen you post.

>I even made a traditional animation by hand to have as reference and did several concept art to get a proper nice design and drew reference art to model it.

By badly copying a character design you didn't make, making a pointless 2D animation that doesn't use any of the basic rules of animation (which you could look up because you have the resources to) and then making a 3D model out of it, even though it doesn't make any sense in terms of a workflow.

>don't say I don't make the effort.

You're not putting any effort into improving. Stop posting.

>>15378567

this is probably the only game in agdg threads i am following,and i hope you faggot will not abbandon this

>>15378567

can't wait to play your game anon, looks juicy

>>15396943

I'm still happy with her.

Art is not a competition, some people will be worse than others, as long as I improve over time I'm happy with it.

>>15397066

I'll make the head smaller then.

Okay, so perspective projection is when we project all of the vertices onto the near plane, and after that we perform the transform taking the points to normalized device coordinates.

Why do I often see NDC depicted as a cube?

Aren't our vertices, at that point, guaranteed to be in a 2d plane?

Is it worth making a simple noise library for my game engine? Or are they general purpose enough that any one I find will be good enough?

>>15397675

And I guess a follow-up question. Even in games, UIs are best done with events, right? I had the idea for a "context" object that acts as a super root for all control/ui trees. Would it make more sense to have the context call an event, and supply the sender control as an argument, or should each control object have its own event?

In the first case, each subscriber might get hit with a lot of noise filtering out events that aren't relevant to it

>>15397899

This is how I wish the wiki was written (not as code in this example, but with this much information in these few words):

#	Node2D Properties
#		Measured in pixels
#
#		Position: Local 2D coordinates (x,y) of local position, relative to parent node.
#		Rotation Degrees: Local 2D planar body's rotation value (0-1440 degrees limit), relative to parent node.
#		Scale: Transformation value that changes the size or shape of Node2D extensions.

>>15397070

Nigga your Asuka model is retarded as fuck. I can fuck around in blender for an hour and make a better looking models than your deviantart-tier shit. I know you're probably doing something autistic like making a model entirely in object and edit mode but still fuck off with that attitude.

>>15398563

Hey at least he's actually progressing. You, however have posted none of your progress.

>>15397899

>>15398021

nice

>>15398598

Don't start with that. Random (1)'s who've never made a game saying how my work is shit is how I improve and gain the ability to explain my motives and purposes. I don't take everything they say as absolute truth that I must follow, but I consider it and both my game an I are better for it. If they stop I don't get those benefits.

>>15398636

(1)'s exist to be bullied.

>>15398648

Those posts are the reason this general hasn't degenerated to a cancerous Discord hugbox tbh. If you can't handle some anon saying your work looks like shit, you should probably use Reddit instead.

>>15398669

Yeah, but when its just

>hurr you suck

There's nothing constructive about it. How can you get any creative guidance?

>>15398676

Still it is feedback, even if its crude. It's useful in an autistic hobby like this to have a reality check every now and then. You can easily waste thousands of hours doing something, and if no one ever says how terrible your shit is because that would be considered unconstructive you eventually end up with Deviantart.

>>15398669

>>15398680

Ok but there's nothing wrong with bullying them back.

>>15398720

Think it should be a list of projects and nodevs "apply", or a list of nodevs and some kind of project ideaguy anon calls them up?

>>15398716

Problem is nobody knows their own qualifications. As soon as someone completes an Unity ball rolling tutorial, they think they're ready to be the developer in a group project if only someone provided the art. Same with artists, they've scribbled some cartoon characters and think they're up for making the game assets for a videogame, surely they'll be motivated and pushed to new heights if only there was a project to work for. And to add fuel to the fire, nobody understands how much work it is to do the other member's jobs either, so the programmer usually doesn't realize how much work it would be for the artist to fill an entire 3D world with assets and make tons of weapons and character animations and such.

>>15398744

>>15398720

you know you could just pop into the disagreement server

>>15398874

You know you could just not use fucking botnets

>>15398744

Why not both? Different strokes for different folks. Some may be up for anything while others would be more willing if they get to choose the game they are becoming a part of.

There should be some guidelines when listing a project for people to apply for. Here are some suggestions.

1. Give as much detail as possible. If you can't give specifics because you don't want people stealing your idea, at least say what is already planed and in how much detail it has been planned. If it's a fighting game, how many characters are on the roster, and how many moves per character? If the game has levels, how many levels are there? If it's an FPS, how many and what kind of guns are there? What's the art-style? What are the mechanics? What kind of camera are you using? How many prop assets do you want? If you don't know, or don't have something planned, say you don't know and what you don't have planned. State your intentions, don't state what you think will get you people. If you want an art-style that is dictated by the artists, say so. Don't assume an easy art style will get you artists, then assume low poly is easy, then say your game's art style is low poly.

2. Who do you already have on board, what are their skills, and what are they are doing? This includes you. What skills do you bring to the table?

3. What skills do you need? What can someone expect to be doing if they join?

4. What tools are you using? This includes everything from version control to the engine. If you haven't pick the tools yet, say you haven't picked yet rather than picking something you don't know anything about. Artists will pick their own tools, don't tell them what to use, but do tell them the format their art needs to be in to work in the game. For example exporting a Rigify model from Blender to Unreal Engine requires a special blender script https://github.com/chichige-bobo/BlenderPython/blob/master/RigifyToUnreal/RigifyToUnreal.py

5. What has been completed, what is being worked on, and what's is the current state of the project?

6. How will the project be managed/how is this project being managed? Is this one man's vision being realized with support from other people, or is the project collaborative and the man in charge is keeping people moving forward rather than on a single track?

7. What tools will be used for communication among the group?

8. How can interested Anons get in contact?

When you apply for a position, say what you have done in the past and if at all possible give specific examples. A programmer may give examples of game mechanics they have implemented in certain engines, a musician will post their music, a 3d modeler will post their 3d models.