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f4e5a2 No.15060903

In from /pol/, I want to recruit a group of people who use both boards in order to create a bunch of /pol/ack games that are also successful, they need not be blatantly propagandist, indeed, it is better if they are subtle at the start before becoming more open as our side gains influence, this is the exact strategy that jew media operated on, who could see the subtle jewprop in the media of the 50's 60's or 80's?

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this is the medium where we can compete with the jew-owned media, as a good amateur game can easily become the most popular game on the planet, even without a budget for advertising, I want to see our two boards make the most of this opportunity.

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if we have a company made up exclusively of dual board users, we can institute the harsh exclusion practices jews use to take over any institution they want to (after they assume even a small position of power in the institution, that is, they do this on their underlings, then use this ideologically united base of power to move themselves up, and repeat these steps until they reach the top), by excluding those we disagree with, even on the most minute of details, we cull those ideas from influencing us in the future, of course, jews don't exactly do this as a strategy, they get offended really easily, and are very petty, so it's instinct for them, we would need to put in some conscious effort into this exclusion process.

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I have no ideas for games, I have no pitches for projects, or even for the group itself, please ignore anything you disagree with and feel free to substitute your own opinions.

da0144 No.15060917

>>15060903

Finally, the /polmedia/ dragon is awakened


4c4d41 No.15060927

File: 0cfb35ca578c6e1⋯.webm (2.35 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, BURN_THE_JEWS.webm)

>An idea guy wants to "start a studio" for political reasons rather than for passion in vidya

Nu-/pol/ is so newfaggy they don't even realize AGDG is a thing or that most of us are active national socialists apparently.


84f403 No.15060931

>>15060903

>/pol/: the game(s) studio

>not propagandistic

You've started with a false premise. Either the game is made to be a good game, or it was doomed from the start. The correct course is to remove political influence, not to become the same thing in the opposite direction.

>by excluding those we disagree with, even on the most minute of details, we cull those ideas from influencing us in the future,

You'll eat each other alive within the first two months, when you realize that everyone involved has slightly differing views of what is and isn't right.

>I have no ideas for games,

That was clear from the start.

t. /agdg/


aa0c98 No.15060939

>>15060917

I thought that board was dead.


4c4d41 No.15060940

File: e88c8e1e79460a0⋯.jpg (17.7 KB, 240x280, 6:7, coffee_instant.jpg)

>>15060931

>Cut all politics

I mean, ones own politics are so deeply attached to their life that any nazis or anons are going to naturally insert some of that into their work. The difference is that /agdg/ doesn't want to make propaganda even if they insert a bit of cultural critique, it wants to make games.


f9ce01 No.15060948

So you want other people to make games for you and you don't even have any ideas to contribute to that end? We've finally found a level lower than ideaguy.


aa0c98 No.15060954

>>15060948

What do we call it? Lazyguy?


4baaf7 No.15060955

>>15060903

Great idea. Just use the kekistani flag.


0f2c79 No.15060964

>>15060927

that explains all the battles to prove what is the best coding languaje.


9e9719 No.15060965

>I have no ideas for games, I have no pitches for projects, or even for the group itself

Do you have money?


44c39e No.15060983

I'll make the logo


b5aee2 No.15061001

File: a81ec9cc93aa00c⋯.webm (5.47 MB, 640x360, 16:9, deusex.webm)

Replicate Deus Ex and you'll be successful in everything that you do.


ba295f No.15061018

The politics will have to be moved aside at first otherwise you'll come across as propagandists like watch dogs 2 did or complete dumbass like the people who made ethnic cleansing. Good gameplay first, then far right politics inseminated in the narrative like killzone with the Helghasts or Hotline Miami with 50 blessings.


aa0c98 No.15061021

>>15061018

>Killzone

>Far right


ba295f No.15061026

>>15061021

I was talking about the Helghasts who obviously did nothing wrong.


aa0c98 No.15061030

>>15061026

Even though you never get to play as them?


ba295f No.15061032

>>15061030

No, that obviously sucks.


71b9f5 No.15061035

>I have no ideas for games, I have no pitches for projects, or even for the group itself

then why even bother making the thread?


0c4f28 No.15061037

File: d56fc1592ee1fef⋯.png (288.27 KB, 810x1200, 27:40, retard.png)

Do it yourself.


500f72 No.15061047

File: 616ac2b48c5af63⋯.jpg (59.45 KB, 600x549, 200:183, Ow_the_edge.jpg)

Actually, this thread brings up a good discussion. Is it morally right to insert right-leaning politics into vidya? Liberal propaganda has been come so mainstream that I wouldn't mind seeing the opposite


ba295f No.15061048

>>15061047

It's not about right wing it's about telling the truth.


167f9d No.15061052

>>15060948

>We've finally found a level lower than ideaguy.

Christ. How embarrassing.


500f72 No.15061053

File: 78eee99c3084178⋯.jpg (69.72 KB, 288x499, 288:499, 7ffda021a1406f0fc1a2489514….jpg)

>>15061048

Guess you're right on that


0c4f28 No.15061059

File: ee4e66c8d97a410⋯.png (226.15 KB, 563x800, 563:800, kaz.png)

>>15061047

It's not morally right or wrong, it's merely stupid. Any injection of the creators' political beliefs always comes at the cost of the game's quality.


62b56b No.15061064

>>15061047

I think it is just as morally right to insert right and left leaning politics.

The point is player agency and letting them know the repercussions of their actions.


a66b34 No.15061079

>>15061059

You sound either retarded or simply ignorant of objective, scientific reality.


500f72 No.15061080

>>15061064

Maybe if the player had the choice to either be left or right it would be better?

I would make it so the best ending is the right-leaning ending


8f4338 No.15061081

Rather than just squeeze it "JEWS DID 9/11" somewhere into your game, how about you frame the gameplay of your game to reflect your ideology in practice? There's a thousand different ways to do this and you can look at a ton of different games for examples.

PS: The Fuehrer would not want you playing video games.


500f72 No.15061088

File: 9e3d78bb5b826ac⋯.png (254.86 KB, 387x470, 387:470, 9e3d78bb5b826ac399461bbcf4….png)

>>15061081

>Fuehrer

It's führer you left-leaning parasite


f4136b No.15061094

>>15061088

GR

fue fue fue fue


500f72 No.15061095

File: 1e04caabc56d427⋯.png (566.94 KB, 678x439, 678:439, Capture.PNG)

>>15061094

>GR

So you live in Sweden huh


6c03fb No.15061105

File: 3afb1ca3d270589⋯.png (472.69 KB, 680x922, 340:461, 3afb1ca3d270589de2fece9160….png)

>>15060964

C is the white man's language. OOP is jew made nigger focused.

>>15061047

Depends fully on the type of game.

Wolfenstein, for example, is inherently political, it's whole theme is centered around anti-nazism and America Fuck Yeah as the savior of everything. The whole point of DeuSex is that conspiracy theories are real, so it would makes no sense for it to separate itself from the real world politics that influence those theories.

On the other hand you have shit like three house that writes feminist shit into the story which is not only inconsistent with the game universe but also just plain bad writing.

The trick is to have a good game with a good theme and not throwing shit in that doesn't belong, whether it's right-wing, degenerate-wing or fence sitter politics.


fc9c8e No.15061109

File: 65a82280ecc50e1⋯.jpeg (24.86 KB, 435x338, 435:338, images (3).jpeg)

>>15060903

I don't think you know how difficult it is to cultivate an audience as an indie dev. For every overnight success you see, there are hundreds upon thousands of games busting their asses for little to no recognition. See Tadpole Treble, Spark the Electric Jester and Assault Android Cactus, all games that got disproportionately less attention than they deserved. And those are just examples that did well enough for me to mention.

I don't take issue with the idea, but you're obviously not equipped to handle it and anon devs won't often work together to begin with. You'd be better off working on connections for like-minded devs so you can shill a number of /pol/ games developed as passion projects instead of one clusterfuck begging to get shut down.

t. indieshitter

I've thought about it before but my game of aryan corvids wresting control of their people's freedom from the cuckoo menace will be made on my own terms when I can afford to


40a037 No.15061115

>>15061109

Never heard of any of those. Sounds like a marketing problem.


312c41 No.15061123

File: 4446a43b26f29c9⋯.png (180.12 KB, 850x400, 17:8, propaganda.png)


de6dff No.15061126

>>15061047

>Is it morally right

That depends what your morals are. If you're right wing then of course. If you're left wing then of course not.


2bbec9 No.15061132

Fallout but you're a revolutionary in a raider-like faction innawoods on a campaign against one of the biggest remnant of the government in Cheyenne.

expansion pack is a fight against the federal reserve with a morality system of keep the gold for yourself or give people back the gold through sound money like ron paul knows you should.


8f4338 No.15061137

>>15061088

I'm not going to go to search engine to get a U with umlauts just to appease gaylords like you. The point still stands. Every one of us would be put in camps for spending all day on a Vietnamese crocheting forum talking about baby toys. Rather than talk our ears off about Jews or scheme strategies for propaganda you will never follow through on, go do something to improve your community.


500f72 No.15061140

>>15061137

>Thinking there were actual death camps

Look at this fag and laugh


312c41 No.15061141

>>15061121

>>15061126

You are operating under the implied assumption that all politics are equally true which is patently false. While some might want to just make entertainment, others want to bring some truth into the world. The left rejects entire swaths of scientific data because it violates their worldview. Not all opinions are equal. Equality is a false God.


8f4338 No.15061146

File: 84fd8a9e2eb2a3b⋯.jpg (519.74 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, (malicious laughing).jpg)

>>15061140

I never said anything about death camps, but since this thread blows and you're so sensitive about anything camp related: The Holocaust happened and the Nazis systematically exterminated six million Jews in addition to millions of others.


500f72 No.15061152

File: 14c2d2e9ac2857f⋯.jpg (16.9 KB, 207x253, 9:11, 14c.jpg)

>>15061146

Lol do you actually believe that


f4e5a2 No.15061159

>>15061141

/atheistpol/ here, god is also a false god


312c41 No.15061162

File: b7546b9ee60c0dd⋯.jpg (33.54 KB, 366x460, 183:230, jojojew.jpg)

>>15061146

didn't happen but I wish it had tbh


f4e5a2 No.15061166

>>15061159

#myraceismy religion

#genesandmemes


de6dff No.15061168

>>15061141

We're talking about "morals" though, not about what's true and what's false.


500f72 No.15061169

File: 757d9dc66a1d9f5⋯.jpg (33.02 KB, 302x433, 302:433, 3105ca0de0e3664bb4cf788f69….jpg)

>>15061144

Wow! People in are war that are losing wouldn't have enough supplies to feed the entire population, really proved your point there anon!


312c41 No.15061178

>>15061168

But a moral principle can be considered objectively good or evil when nested inside of a spiritual/subjective value structure. Good defined as beneficial to the goals of the value structure, and evil defined as detrimental to it.

Incidentally, due to evolution, individual humans tend to arrive at highly similar spiritual value structures.


500f72 No.15061179

File: 2c784736877d0c1⋯.gif (1.44 MB, 304x217, 304:217, 2c784736877d0c1cc63d23e3bb….gif)

>>15061176

Nice deflection leftypol. Next time bring facts instead of snark


f4e5a2 No.15061186

The left is using media to advocate their ideology.

Something all humans have used media for since the dawn of time.

The right refuses to use this tactic.

The right has decided to fight an ideological battle without one of its oldest weapons.

"Let's just use funny pictures on the internet and in-jokes instead".

For no reason.

Well, I suspect there IS one big (((reason))) for it.


500f72 No.15061188

<<15061185

Do you actually have facts to support your argument?


8f4338 No.15061196

>>15061152

If it offends you, then yes.


500f72 No.15061197

>>15061196

It dosen't offend me, it sadden me


fb39c7 No.15061201

>>15061047

Both left and right see themselves as objective truth, not just as subjective opinions. For them inserting politics would be just telling the truth.


14fd04 No.15061203

>>15061109

This pretty much. Games are too expensive and time consuming to make. /pol/ should stick with video editing and make more "with open gates" type videos.

We don't have time on our side.


f4e5a2 No.15061216

>>15061178

our morality comes from one goal:

seeing that as many genes which are more or less identical to my own.

are in as many people as possible.

for as many generations as possible.

whether directly inherited from myself, or from my kin, who shares many genes with me.

-

memes operate in much the same fashion.

-

this is transcendent morality by it very nature as it's ultimate judgement comes after you die, just like heaven.

and it's a good moral bedrock for societies as well, families and communities being smaller segments of societies, which were usually also pools of genetic similarity, however.

it's godless and blasphemous, it usurps much of what all religions have seen as their roles in society, and it does so without even invoking any supernatural (note that the left rejected it as well, see Lysenko and Boase).

it's racist, it promotes prioritizing those who share more genes with you over those who share less genes with you, and since races are extended families, it means you prioritize your race over other races.

it's relativistic, unlike most ethical or moral theories, the execution of this one changes depending upon who you are, since who you are includes your genetic makeup.


84f403 No.15061217

>>15060940

>ones own politics are so deeply attached to their life that any nazis or anons are going to naturally insert some of that into their work.

Philosophies are at the core of a person, and can't be entirely removed from art, but politics are about the application of those philosophies in the structure of the society that one currently lives in. While it's impossible to cut all philosophy from media, and it would be foolish to do so even if it was possible, contemporary politics being the deciding factor of what games are or aren't "allowed" to be made is a cancerous concept that should be routed out of the industry.

>>15060948

>>15060954

It's a personal army request. He's asking for decades of unpaid work to fight a multi-billion dollar industry on his own personal ideological grounds. Even if he manages to get a team, (which won't be very skilled, or have the money to sustain themselves while they learn the skills well enough to do the job on the scale he's talking about,) he's not even going to find a consensus among them about where The Jews begin and end, or about what is or isn't degeneracy.

>>15061047

There's nothing wrong with talking about politics, left or right, in video games. The issue is that talking about politics is a shit reason to make video games, and will only lead to bad video games.

>>15061203

Also this. Good games take YEARS to make. Using video games as a medium to distribute talking points about modern politics is fucking retarded, and even moreso when shit is falling apart. If you're going to inject some deeper meaning, it better be something that you really believe is a cosmic truth that you're willing to sacrifice years of your life to distribute, not some woke soundbite. Make a podcast or YouTube video for that.


f4e5a2 No.15061220

This thread has pissed off all the right people.

This is how we know it's a good thread.


fabc1c No.15061221

>>15061146

>tfw holocaust didn't happen but you hate jews so much that you wish it did

Holocaust denial is just a shitty attempt to make NatSoc more mainstream because murder spooks the normalfags.


4c4d41 No.15061226

File: f8d6631f0eaadf7⋯.webm (1.95 MB, 512x512, 1:1, I_Wonder.webm)


60c896 No.15061231

>"I have no ideas for games, I have no pitches for projects, or even for the group itself"

Haha.

The dream is to make games fun, unbiased and restore them to being neutral and not including modern political garbage (the only thing I'd like to see eradicated is lgbt stuff and "everyone is bi" in rpgs). Running in the totally opposite direction is a stupid plan and hasn't worked in the past- I bet you're not even aware of natsoc shovelware.


84f403 No.15061239

>>15061216

>our morality comes from one goal:

>seeing that as many genes which are more or less identical to my own.

You say that like its reasoning and benefits are self-evident, and don't even explain why it's the basis of your morality, or how to go about it.

>also, do you make all of your

>political arguments

>uncapitalized and without paragraphs

>-

>but sometimes with dashes

>-

>or is this a special thing you're doing for this thread?

You write like a YouTube comment made on a phone.

>>15061220

>I've been criticized. That means I've angered The Jew and am on the right track.

With that attitude, they don't need to do anything for you to destroy yourself.


8f4338 No.15061242

>>15061220

>This thread has pissed off all the right people.

/agdg/?


f4e5a2 No.15061265

>>15061239

I didn't say it was my morality, i pointed out some objections to it, in fact, there's probably more I haven't listed too.

try checking the comments I was responding to:

When I said "our" I was talking about humanity as a whole, I was talking about the human's instinctual morality, as bred into us by the evolutionary process.

Also, you criticized my writing style, maybe you are a shill, because that's something shills tend to do, or you are just an idiot, I prefer assuming evil over incompetence, I'm cautious like that.


a92410 No.15061295

Make a counter-narrative game

Make a game where you are a nigger/spic and you just go around raping white women, killing white people, taking over the map piece by piece.

Make it really violent, political, and say it was made by blacks to make up for some kind of virtual oppression.

Then let video game journos praise it


9c36f7 No.15061297

File: 2dd815a189894b5⋯.jpg (33.98 KB, 400x300, 4:3, 3b092a8c22d18b0354f1d2e021….jpg)

>>15061047

>ow the edge

stop randomly posting images, especially not the same fucking shit, you fucking newfag.


500f72 No.15061303

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90ce4d No.15061309

>>15061221

The Holocaust is old wartime propaganda from WWII to convince Americans to get involved in the war, nobody talks about what the US did to the Germans or what the Poles did to provoke Germany because that was an inconvenient truth and still is today. Nevermind that the US is responsible with the most mass death and suffering towards Jews from their terror bombing.


216d7c No.15061336

>>15061311

>that gamergate is so vehemently opposed to

OP is a faggot but you managed to out do him.


50f101 No.15061376

>>15061146

We're at that point in history where a significant event, in this case a war and the things that happened during that war are starting to become almost legend and are doubted. Most who actually witnessed and experienced either astounding things or atrocities during the war are dead now, eventually there will come a point where the killing of gook civilians during the Vietnam War will be doubted to the point that there will be people who outright deny it even happened.


3fd9a8 No.15061423

>>15061311

>cuckergate

>relevant

Go back to containment thread and take your delusion of grandiose shit with you.


f4e5a2 No.15061515

>>15061311

Your comment draws parallels with the "skeptics" regarding "identity politics".

You are sick of how it's used by the left and you want to abandon it entirely, but the left wont stop using it.

The left is objectively wrong, while the right is objectively correct.

Essentially, you are disarming the good guys, and pleading with the bad guys to stop fighting.


d59b5d No.15061543

File: f705287231d986f⋯.png (54.3 KB, 1175x689, 1175:689, SIEGE- what movement whose….png)

>>15060903

>>15060940

Even James Mason from Siege advised you not to name your group as a right-wing group. It's going to cause a lot of infighting with each member calling each other shills and with several others stirring shit. Name yourself something apolitical, but permit free speech in accordance to US law. Right-wing discussion will naturally appear without any infighting.

>>15061047

It's morally right, but it's something that you should do on your own. What I mean by that is that you should build up your skills before scrambling for a team without any ideas. Just lurk communities and build up your skillset to be presentable or professional looking.


5d1714 No.15061633

Just make a WW2 game from a perspective of a german or some other axis soldier and you've got half of work done. Besides all the interesting battles were the ones where Germans won and were defending.

And the shit AI would do you some favors considering how soviets just threw humans into the german war machine. CoD 1 soviet campaign did a somewhat good of a job.

You don't need to do right wing propaganda. Just tell the truth. Maybe you could add some religious overtones.


40387f No.15061643


40387f No.15061702

>>15061203

> Games are too expensive

>Not using free engines and resources


f282be No.15061710

Hey fags, just make a game that takes place through Weimar and after Hitler made Germany great again. All I fucking want to be honest. As long as it isn't some furry or pony game, I'd support it. Then take all the good shit away after the Israeli colony of America fucks everything up.


a8f421 No.15061727

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>>15061543

>James Mason advises x

That's a much better argument against x rather than for it.


7d2b7e No.15061743

File: dc66439ba175d23⋯.jpg (2.65 MB, 2344x1435, 2344:1435, SMTIV chosen.jpg)

File: 5aa7725ae10e558⋯.jpg (640.88 KB, 1283x777, 1283:777, SMTIV Inequality.jpg)

File: 78af093f3439326⋯.png (153.77 KB, 1024x896, 8:7, Todd YHVH.png)

>>15060903

If you really want to go through with making a redpilled video game, take notes from the most redpilled game franchise, MegaTen: Make the message subtle on the surface, and drop the big redpills somewhere in the middle and the end.

Discovery generates publicity.

Snowflakes won't catch it right away, and when they do, it will trigger the (((Streisand))) Effect.


fb9530 No.15061764

>>15060903

Give it a month or so and I'll bring it up to speed, I've already been planning on this, much more extensively and in serious terms.

t. business planning specialist anon with extensive gayming autism attempting own entrepreneurship

Already have a standalone title and a series of titles in the works and tbh I've no doubt they'll be smash hits given capital and technical skills to support proper realization - for which I'll need to find help.

In fact I even intend to provide /v/ with its literal dream job (thus the time and finance to make families for 14 words purposes) and the satisfaction of crashing (((Activision))) with no survivors.

Stay tuned.


7d2b7e No.15061782

>>15061764

>crashing (((Activision))) with no survivors.

That's a bold statement, but I'll be rooting for you.

If you pull that off, will they die?


fb9530 No.15061796

>>15061782

It'll be extremely painful for them.

And bretty dangerous for me, since I wouldn't put it past them to send literal hitmen - while aware it's a bold statement, it is no joke - which is why time is needed to set up, there'll be need for at least a couple layers of shell companies


0c4f28 No.15061802

>>15061079

You sound like a no-fun faggot.


1b3d04 No.15061843

>>15061764

this sounds like larp


75d5f0 No.15061844

File: c235e49fab0ae97⋯.jpg (28.92 KB, 600x600, 1:1, 7ef.jpg)

>>15061047

I think insterting right-wing politics into your game is ok only in cases whenthe game deals with politics in it's theme. If the game you're making is talking about politics from the very idea, then you are allowed to insert politics into it as long as you keep it interesting and non-cringy.

The other way that you can inserts politics into media is through humor, the problem here is the same as with the other option. It actually has to be funny, look at the RPG maker game that we're making, anon's adventure. It's a perfect example of both how to do shit like that right, and how to do shit like that wrong, because it has both good and bad jokes. For example there are two "Happy merchant" characters, one of them maybe not funny, but not cringy and the second of them a bit cringy. The first one is a demonic merchant that acts like a jew, and sometimes says things like "goyim" "oy vey" while saying that he was thrown out of the Interdimensional Tavern and it was like the second crusade.

The other Jew is a literal kike in the Interdimensional Tavern that screams "GOOOOOOOOYIIIIIIIM" in all caps, which is not really funny and kind of forced.

Let's be honest, screaming HURR DURR NIGGERS and HURR DURR JEWS is neither funny nor interesting, you have to have some subtelty in doing that.


fb9530 No.15062079

>>15061843

>no good thing ever happens

I get you anon, though that feeling is pretty much why motivation to make it happen appears in the first place.

Besides, doesn't matter what it sounds like, I haven't asked for anything.

>>15061844

Your understanding of ideology and propaganda are abysmally inadequate my dude.


75d5f0 No.15062161

>>15062079

No, because I do not intend to create propaganda to further the goal of my ideology, and my post wasn't about it.


de6dff No.15062168

Putting in your political diarrhea into the game is ok as long as it's YOUR game, and not some franchise that you hijacked and then shat your politics into.


d1d23b No.15062225

File: 2a5d175e84fe91b⋯.gif (974.14 KB, 301x240, 301:240, 1521110428277.gif)

>>15061297

>stop posting images on an imageboard!!1!1


f4e5a2 No.15062239

My suggestion was that we do what the leftists had been doing until they became blatant about it in the 2000's.

Instead of something that is overtly right wing, we begin subtly, so subtle that most won't know it's there at all, I specifically mentioned the media of the decades following the end of the second world war (50's, 60's, 70's, and 80's), you couldn't tell it was left wing at all unless you looked for it, and even then you could ignore it, but looking back, the influence becomes pronounced.

First focus on making a great game (/v/'s work) by only thinking about the elements unique to vidya, then focus on writing the elements of the game that are shared with other media story, characters, etc.(/pol/'s work) that fits within the boundaries set by the first step, and make it subtle.


a70204 No.15062286

>>15060903

You don't need to make any games There are plenty of games out there that will let you play out your nazi fantasies. If you want a role playing game Mount and Blade has plenty of Nazi era mods. If you want to play as Hitler, plenty of GSGs - personally I love Victoria 2 because it lets you gas the jews. Superpower 2 is amazing if you enjoying Nuking the jews and as one anon said Deus Ex is amazing for Redpilling. If you want Nazi XCom/JA2 you can play Silent Storm.

Plenty of options. It's just a shame we've never had a purist "play as a Nazi before the war" game. I would give anything for that.


53f6ff No.15062312

>>15061543

>IVIovement

>paperworl<

Are you actually citing this fucking faggot?


bbfbb0 No.15062339

Look you fucking retards, don’t shove NatSoc philosophy into vidyas - create games around the NatSoc philosophy.

Games that are seemingly apolitical, fun to play, and designed with an aryanist mindset will prove more helpful than “Angry Goy 3: revenge of the alt-kike”

Idea I had for a game like this: you are a space freighter captain, your crew fucks you over and crashed your ship on Mars about 200 years after the attempt to terraform it failed.

You have to use the tech aboard your crashed ship to terraform the planet, take revenge against your old crew, and somehow get back to earth

Game would be like harvest moon mixed with red dead on mars - embodies the NatSoc principles of environmentalism and “living space”

Stop making shit games.


bfc2a5 No.15062398

>>15061168

What is true is moral, what is false is immoral, morality is patently objective.


bfc2a5 No.15062409

>>15061201

This is a good argument and is for the most part true, but in my experience all the people who subscribe to it are peddlers of baseless subjective opinions themselves.


72f59e No.15062416

>>15062388

Can you not


72f59e No.15062418

>>15062398

Reply in multiple


72f59e No.15062419

>>15062409

Posts that are minutes apart


9a3076 No.15062448

>A game showing how communism is a fucking terrible idea unless the leader is a machine that distributes resources equally.

>A game set in a world similar to Demolition Man or what would happen if SJW's would take over type world where everything is offensive.

>A game about propaganda/narrative spin control of the media.


8de421 No.15062459

>>15062448

>what is Papers Please


4263db No.15062464

>>15061146

>Zionist Bankers put Hitler in power

>Operation Reinhardt

>Jews deported to the east, shaken down for all wealth and disposed of. (Slave camps are a meme, there was no "gassing" you idiots. Why would you gas people when you can just shoot them lol.)

>Hitler loses war, wealth shaken down from European jews goes to Zionists


bfc2a5 No.15062465

>>15061216

Racial preservation plays a role in collective health and social wellbeing, but it is not the end goal of morality, rather a byproduct of it; If you try to derive objective morals solely from genetics you will be cucking out for the worst pieces of human garbage simply because they are h'white and are perceived to help in the preservation of your race or whatever goal you try to project onto them, these conducts produce the same results of unhinged postmodernist liberalist zombification, "I don't give a fuck about you and your behavior as long as you are X and you support Y".

>inb4: nu-uh becuz we r real right wing conservatives

Stop thinking in right or left, there is only right or wrong, and wrong also applies to your group.


bfc2a5 No.15062470


eab38a No.15062506

>>15061047

At this point you should know that everyone has different morals and can justify putting anything in a game from gore, torture, sadism or simply pedo stuff.

Just try to make the game actually enjoyable and such that you wouldn't lose your head to your local laws.


4709b5 No.15062531

>>15060903

stop shoving politics in my vidya and go back larping in your homo board


b7fc15 No.15063529

>>15061146

Yes, those poor chosen souls carted off on the holocoaster or fried on an enormous electrified plate that burned even the ashes up till there wasn't any evidence of them being there or OY the masturbation machines, it was HORRIBLE GOY, ABSALUDLEE HORRIBLE


4debf4 No.15063576

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

b6c31a No.15063626

File: 51e5c0074c6939c⋯.jpg (95.52 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, stalker.jpg)

>working quietly with a bunch of anons on hopefully good and also right-leaning vidya

>this shitters come in and loudly declares he wants other people to make his political games for him

If you want something done, do it yourself. Pick up a programming language, pour over developer presentations and papers, and examine other games until you can design mechanically interesting vidya in your sleep and gain the experience to implement your shit properly.


062f37 No.15063657

>>15062531

Apoliticalcucks will get the bullet, too.


e8832c No.15063793

File: 6dd6aec39dee6e1⋯.jpg (20.3 KB, 366x324, 61:54, 1467040548048-0.jpg)

>>15060903

rather than contribute absolutely fucking nothing as usual, i propose we do something like what >>15061295 described, but packaged for the normalfag masses

>indieshit propaganda game about antifa beating up fascists

>play as one of four rainbow-haired faggot/nigger/spic/dykes, each with their own violent special abilities

>story is about taking back the government from the ebil natzees

>enemies are the police, neo-nazis, the gamer gestapo, drumpf's ss officers, etc

>can take weapons from defeated enemies, like stealing guns from the police

>boss fights include "parodies" like richard pence, ike spencer and drumpf, with literally hitler as the final boss

>reward the player for beating up civilians and causing property damage, under the guise of resisting capitalism or some bullshit


794ba8 No.15063815

>>15061231

I recently played Rune Factory 3 and I was a bit shocked how there's no option to romance the males or even to play as a female. It was a good kind of shocked, though. Almost like a realization that at one point, games didnt need to pander to everyone or be the most marketable in order to succeed.


8968f3 No.15063819

Doesn't make you just like the jews, using media to brainwash people to your side?


e8832c No.15063838

File: b24a8a251bc69cb⋯.jpg (225.61 KB, 491x491, 1:1, 1458103253695.jpg)

>>15063819

>not fighting kikery with kikery


b5aee2 No.15063935

>>15063819

As an anon said earlier, theres a difference if you post the truth - which is inherently right wing.


167f9d No.15063941

>>15061047

Pretty much everything is political. Almost all media that's somewhat complicated involves a variety of different political statements and views. I saw this statement on 4/v/ the other day and there were plenty of buttmad le centrists to argue against this point but it is absolutely true.

I think something that people fundamentally have to understand is that propaganda can be ANYTHING that changes your mind and is not an explicit argument. If your purpose in making anything from a movie to a song to meme is to support a particular political agenda or moral view or belief that is not purely just a presentation of information, then that's propaganda. All television is propaganda for some position or another. The vast majority of opinions people hold were not arrived at by their own logical deductions from primary evidence presented to them, they're the result of manufactured opinions subliminally changing how they view reality.

When it comes to media, the safe bet is just to push the centre-line of what is acceptable in the current society. If people see political views in media that they disagree with they may hate that media. If people see political views in media that they support then that may push that media to be more enjoyable.

>Is it morally right to put politics in games

I don't believe myself to be so important that I have to advocate some social change. I think it's inevitability to put politics in games but it depends on the intent. I don't want to be propagandized to so I don't want other people's subconscious messages changing how I view reality.


b5aee2 No.15063952

>>15062388

Fence shitter detected.


04f138 No.15064000

/v/ is basically /pol/ talking about video games so why the fuck not


261a1f No.15064011

>>15061146

It was actually more around 2.4 million, going by the Korherr report and the Einsatzgruppen papers.

Still, genocide is genocide, even if it wasn't 6 million.


82a117 No.15064015

File: 47d63d7dfd207cc⋯.png (1.19 MB, 973x522, 973:522, 47d63d7dfd207ccaa42ed4cbd9….png)

>>15063838

>kike'ing kikes with kikery until nothing is left un-kiked so that you can have the satisfaction of out-kike'ing kikes

Truly a visionary for the ages.

"Maybe if we make a politically loaded game we can sell it on controversy alone!", "If we use this game to soapbox about current "issues" surely we'll get positive media attention!", "What if we made a intentionally counter-political game so that we can carve our own niche of people who would buy our games as a statement?" Or one more damning, "Video games are a tool with which I can influence a large population towards my own political ideology."

At the end of the day nothing will be left untouched by these politically possessed fools, until every facet of ones life is contaminated with politics.

Hell, you can implement politics in an actually interesting manner and have it make sense within the universe you're creating within the game. If you have to take the player out of the game and back into the real world with your retarded agendas then spare yourself the effort of making a game and buy yourself a nice, sturdy rope instead.


d41cad No.15064146

File: bf75f45239769ae⋯.jpg (160.36 KB, 1280x800, 8:5, nazifrogs.jpg)

The best solution is just to make the games you would like to play.

Don't think about politics first, think about making a fun game with an appealing idea or story behind it. "This will convert people to my politics" is never a good reason to make a game, and it's why so many leftist games are utter trash.

If you just make a fun game, you'll trigger the commies simply by not having THEIR politics slapped all over it. And if a little natsoc imagery happens to slip by, that's just a bonus.

Then again, I'd be lying if I said I WASN'T amused by the idea of a Tetris/Puyo style puzzle game where you have to try and cram as many jews as possible into an oven before time runs out (try to beat the high score of six million!) And of course, it starts with the very important disclaimer: "this game is entirely fictional".


261a1f No.15064261

>>15064146

>Don't think about politics first, think about making a fun game with an appealing idea or story behind it

Honestly, just do this.

Don't try to drop truth bombs, or expose some conspiracy, or make a piece that will convert people to your cause, just make something that's good and happens to have natsoc themes.


e5f6fc No.15064631

We need to start big, include all races/sexualities in a game, and then with each installment take them away little by little. The rage will be assmad and cause a huge amount of backlash, gaining public media scorn but showing the flipside of the current game culture predicament, convincing more people to see how hypocritical the left is.


e5f6fc No.15064652

In addition, the series will be known for its inclusion and diversity and slip under the radar gainibg traction, then reverse that same traction. Its a tactic leftists used but in reverse, they added tiny bits of diversity until the entire game industry became flooded with stronk dyke nigger womyn games.


e5f6fc No.15064693

In people will be pissed off that they have to play as a straight white male in a series known for diversity


aa8793 No.15064813

>>15060903

Easy idea to start with:

>Play as German/Axis Soldier(s) in WW2

>Humanize the soldiers instead of all the usual "FUCK EVIL NAZIS" style bs we get in AAA vidya

>Be historically accurate/realistic

>Follow the war from start to finish with all the suffering present throughout

Bam. Teach the sheep that few (if any) conflicts are so black and white in terms of morality. I feel like people need to learn that lesson again.


6a9384 No.15064827

File: 34e3603cb384a17⋯.jpg (106.28 KB, 704x704, 1:1, Questioning anime girl won….jpg)

Why not start by making Holocaust Tycoon and present it as an alternate reality game?


e5f6fc No.15064832

>>15064631

Actually an addendum to this, replace every character that isnt straight from the first game with a straight white alternative, i.e the old character dies off. Do this until every cast member is straight and white.


fda974 No.15064880

File: 171948af234c387⋯.gif (404.95 KB, 180x166, 90:83, 1526500040934.gif)

>>15061047

Right and left is a fucking shit concept for politics and philosophy that is used by political groups to make people behave like soccer gorilla fans, its easy to organize and control that way for then, there is all historic context behind it.

About your question, putting politic discussions and philosophy in a game is not morally wrong, it is the same shit with movies and literature.

Now, a specifically philosophy can be complete morally wrong for ones morals, but discuss it is not morally wrong, not in a society that believes in freedom of speech.

But putting propaganda in a game to push an agenda? Is that morally wrong? That is complete different from discussing philosophy and politics in it.

I think it is morally wrong use any entertainment media for political propaganda, even if private owned, because i think it causes more damage to a healthy society than it can benefit from it, even if has good purpose, i think is important to discuss meters, freely, and that can bring good changes when needed, or not, it can be refuted.

Now about the current situation, i think would be morally wrong, but shit is so shit that maybe fuckying the whole system and bringing complete chaos to the industry may be the right path. So yeah, if someone can make "right wing games" and have success with that, to make niggers understand of how much damage this modus operandi in society can make, i say, JUST DO IT.


bf9b49 No.15064886

File: b8c91cf91d3b210⋯.jpg (8.28 KB, 150x260, 15:26, xaero.jpg)

>Implying /pol/ ideas would make for good gameplay

>implying contemporary politics is good for game design


e5ba8d No.15064929

>>15061059

>he says while ironically posting a character from a game with political ideology shoved into it


02b24f No.15065002

>>15060903

/pol/ niggers are too dumb do pull of such a thing.

Also pushing your Ideology through Games is fucking retarded because it is too obvious.


e5ba8d No.15065003

Tactical RPG with mecha, infantry, and air units set in not-europe where you can pick between defending the monarchy, fighting for not-communism, fighting for not-national socialism, fighting for not-democracy, or fighting for not-republicanism in a civil war. Make all the sides have a good plot, but make not-national socialism have the honest charismatic characters and not-communism have the some hiding their evil desires at the top. Make a non-playable faction of non-indigenous merchants playing all sides but ultimately supporting not-communism in underhanded ways with a subplot of destroying the country in civil war for their own gain.


e5ba8d No.15065018

>>15065003

Actually, fuck you. I'm going to make it, and I can.


b6c31a No.15065024

>>15065002

>too dumb do

>capitalizing Ideology and Games for no reason

Fags like you belong on /trannypol/.


e4f527 No.15066632

Even the poeple in /co/ knows that we need this >>>/co/1002332


85a05c No.15066722

>>15061159

/atheistpol/ or at least /agnosticpol/ is best /pol/. My problem with christcucks is not their faith per se, but the fact that the average christcucks are actually very susceptible to bleeding heart stuff, which eventually leads to being overly receptive of librul propaganda. Muslims at least condition themselves to think that everyone else outside of their circle is a potential enemy, which is why their style of identity politics is very cohesive even among different ethnicities. They have that going for them if nothing else. Not to mention that leftists themselves are pretty much also cultists who treat their beliefs very much like a religion, which is why /leftypol/'s attempts to be edgy towards christcuckery always seem tryhard.


aa0c98 No.15066755

>>15066632

You say that as if it's a surprise coming from /co/.


b167de No.15066799

File: e21cf51aef13563⋯.gif (86.93 KB, 600x450, 4:3, 1449793298608.gif)

>>15060903

>to create a bunch of /pol/ack games

learn to fucking code, faggot.


1c2e8d No.15066877

HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.

<15065002

>/pol/ niggers are too dumb do pull of such a thing.

Probably, if past right wing games are anything to go by, /pol/ isn't likely to buck the trend if they remake shit from scratch and try to be subtle about it. Frankly, i'd be more worried about the fact that all projects /v/ are a part of just kind of implode on themselves, or the people who make them fuck off if the product looks like it has a good chance of being a success, like Minecraft.

While i'm on the topic, is Anton and Coolpecker still around? Haven't heard much about it in a few years.

>>15066722

>Not to mention that leftists themselves are pretty much also cultists who treat their beliefs very much like a religion, which is why /leftypol/'s attempts to be edgy towards christcuckery always seem tryhard.

You act as if atheists aren't also susceptible to becoming cults.


3ae862 No.15067365

>>15066799

GDScript with Godot. Can't get any better than this.


0c4f28 No.15067392

File: 02cbdcbffa313da⋯.png (150.04 KB, 449x338, 449:338, dork souls.png)

>>15064929

Using war to tell a story is a bit different than the usual /pol/ack "kill niggers XD fucking kikes kek do i fit in yet" retardation they want to hamfist into vidya without any real meaning or context.


b21d6e No.15067406

>>15060903

>We're going to create a video game by coding psychologically manipulating another good goy into doing it so he can be included in our group.

Learn to code fuggers


77db36 No.15067431

HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.

>>15061047

It's right as long as it's not what the entire fucking game is about. You can absolutely have a political story in your game, but if it affects the gameplay in a way a lot of these liberal propaganda games affect it, then fuck that.

Metal Gear has tons of real world politics in its story, and those games are fine. Deus Ex has tons of real world politics in its story, and the original is fine, but the sequels are shit.


cdefcf No.15067477

>>15067406

But thas haaaaard


500f72 No.15067495

>>15067477

Not really


14fd04 No.15067566

>>15061702

>time is not a resource that you spend

Come on anon


1c492b No.15067598

>>15061095

That's a beautiful place


669a66 No.15067633

>>15067392

>without any real meaning or context

Does a game really need meaning and context when it's simply about killing niggers? Might as well shit on Doom for not giving you more reasons to kill demons than that they are demons.

But we all know you liberals are mentally challenged.


3ae862 No.15067735

>>15067477

>>15067495

Godot with GDScript. As dumb as you can get. If you can't code you are worse than a nigger

http://docs.godotengine.org/en/3.0/getting_started/scripting/gdscript/gdscript_basics.html


37483e No.15067850

>>15061047

Depends, but generally yeah, inserting your own ideology as the true one (or most correct one) may break your game.

In a politically heavy game, it's best to give buffs and debuffs or a more gray area to all ideologies, as freedom of choice should come first and foremost. If it's narrative heavy though you can do whatever you want as long as the base game is good - since modern leftist companies can't or won't make a good game it becomes irrelevant.

Which begs the question, what was the last game you played where despite it having a multicultural gang or protagonist, or poz'd shit shoved into it or an open border kind of ideology still managed to be good and memorable enough that you went back and played it again?


59f2cd No.15068364

>>15060903

>I want to recruit a group of people who use both boards in order to create a bunch of /pol/ack games

I hope you got a lot of funds then, because you're going to pay those people, right? Or do you expect them to do it for free for years on a project that's not their own idea? If you say

>n-no, you'd make a game for me and then split the profits after we're successful, duh

that's delusional. For one, you can't guarantee success. And two, money binds, so if you're doing it pro bono the passion has to be there to make up for it instead. I feel like political motivation alone isn't exactly what you'd call a passion. Every time I see an anon post about how he has an epic idea to own the SJWs with his holocauster tycoon simulator, it never gets made. I'd imagine it wouldn't be very good either.

Besides, collaborating with anons is quite possibly the worst idea ever, since most of you faggots have no experience, no work ethic or are plain impossible to work with. The precedent is there, look at any other example of imageboard group projects that never went anywhere.

>I have no ideas for games, I have no pitches for projects, or even for the group itself, please ignore anything you disagree with and feel free to substitute your own opinions.

I think people should ignore your entire thread, since you provide no novel ideas or anything of value. It's pretty obvious you've never made anything. Nobody should have to work with someone who has a parasitic mindset like yours.


fd2d3e No.15068690

>>15067392

>implying ANY metal gear game only uses war to tell a story without any political ideology inserted

It's the exact same thing, except you aren't bothered by the ideology being inserted.


0c4f28 No.15068708

File: 8279b541ea6564e⋯.png (40.67 KB, 273x465, 91:155, akitsumaru.png)

>>15067633

>Does a game really need meaning and context when it's simply about killing niggers?

This sentence alone shows why retarded 14-year olds like you shouldn't be let near the development of any video game, and if you're too stupid to understand why, you're stupid for an explanation.


2b21cf No.15068765

>>15067633

Doom did give you a reason to kill demons though: they slaughtered all your buds, they're building a space legion to invade earth (in the first one), they've invaded earth (in Doom 2), and they killed Daisy. But I agree entirely, story is for fucking faggots. Storyfags are insufferable cunts, moreso if you play RPGs, because these faggots left their shitty adventure games and hopped onto the medium after the abysmal trash-heap that was Planescape: Torment received attention for its "good writing".


be152f No.15068790

Even if you manage to succeed and find some people who are willing to do literally everything for you, the art, the programming, the audio, possibly coming up with ideas while you sit on your lazy ass and do literally nothing. Even then, your project is bound to be infriltated and subverted by some leftist kike, just like everything that /pol/ attempts to do for the purpose of spreading their ideology outside this site.

Just look at the "alt-right": the moment genuine far-right ideas became popular through the spread of memes and informative videos some kikes just dumped money into a few pretty faces that subverted those same memes and turned everything into a pro-Israel, pro-jewish mess. Then there was gab.ai, run by a kike to collect information of right-wing types, then there is that false-flag pedophile running for some sort of regional election in the US etc. They're just too poweful and normalfags are too dumb. So I'd say if you manage to make something and it reaches some form of success, there's just going to be yet another big ordeal where one of your devs turns out to be a kike or commie shill and ruins everything.


8ec55b No.15068838

>>15063941

>everything is political

>far right niggers have gone so far they now believe basic tenants of feminism


66a162 No.15069005

File: c8a23fb509ce267⋯.jpg (121.12 KB, 640x960, 2:3, 9da629a7999cd784121b1561df….jpg)

>Project title: Holocoaster Tycoon

>Genre: Simulation/Real time strategy

>Summary: Take control over any of the famous death camps from world war two or build your own from scratch in this engaging strategy game inspired by the various tycoon games from early 2000's. Maintain your various political prisoner's happiness levels by building recreational areas like pools or cinema's while you wait for the war to end or gain some extra funding to expand your camp's facilities by putting the prisoners to work, but be careful! If you don't give them any stress relief options or work them too hard, they will start to get anxious and riot and you will have to punish them to put them back in line by using various methods like water hose dousing and isolation rooms. Don't go overboard with them however, as your camp staff will object, start quitting in protest or even eventually start a mutiny that will end with you being judged by the tribunal for forcing your prisoners into inhumane living conditions.

>Get promoted from performing well and complete optional objectives to gain favor from your staff, superiors and prisoners to receive various bonuses like more funding, medicine, food rations or camp happiness. The further you progress into the war, the harder the game will become. Fight constant typhus outbreaks caused by certain prisoner's poor hygiene with limited medical supplies and try to prevent your prisoners from dying from starvation as the encroaching soviet army destroys your country's supply lines. Only the best of the SS Commanders will be able to get to the end and peacefully surrender to the soviet army!


86bf99 No.15069008

You can't. Everyone ITT has already proved it. Also see >>15068790

>>>/co/932699

Stop fucking trying


f1d3db No.15069019

>>15069005

>Before being raped


66a162 No.15069026


f1d3db No.15069034

>>15069026

I mean I'm sure lots of both happened in the rape of Berlin, so… there's that. That game idea is veiled just enough that it could work, though.


40387f No.15069073

make a proof of concept demo (using placeholder assets if necessary) before trying to recruit other people.


e45678 No.15069075

>>15069043

Look, it's a gay who missclicked and ended up on the wrong board.

>>/gay/

>>/cuteboys/

>>/homo/

>>/reddit/

>>/leftypol/

>>/queer/

choose one


f1d3db No.15069119

You need another carrot Lurk moar


711598 No.15069367

Even if you somehow manage to get together enough people to make a game, the chances that it is good or will manage to stand out above anything else is lower than low. If you think that you'll be some epic troll by putting in a merchant picture and gas the kikes in dialogue, you will prove yourself to be the /pol/ retard that you are to the rest and everyone will see your game as shit and retarded. The average /pol/ack is a NEET, underage or 35 year old that doesn't have the skills, creativity or time to make a game to begin with.

>>15061047

No, never. The left will find any small detail to defame your game despite how inclusive it will try to be, and the right will shit on your game and call it Jew propaganda if you have something as minute as a non-white person in the game. You will never fully satisfy political fundamentalists on either side and the chances that those fundamentalists will buy your game to begin with are very low. It's pointless to put any sort of politics into a game because the people that it will appeal to probably won't play your game, the people who unexpectedly find your politics and don't agree with it will be mad and your politics won't 'convert' any people who aren't politically active to begin with.

>>15067431

The difference is that Deus Ex politics were neutral with some liberal/libertarian leanings and most people can agree that overly powerful governments and corporations will simply make life hell for the average person.

Although, I would argue that if DX was made today /pol/ would call it jew propaganda regardless.

>>15069075

>not knowing how to crosslink boards

Your newfaggotry is showing, /pol/ refugee subhuman. Go back to le_donald or 4/pol/.


14f3b6 No.15069441

File: 16f8cc9e43fc049⋯.gif (3.39 MB, 192x144, 4:3, 16f.gif)

If you're making a game for any reason other than to make an entertaining game you are the cancer that is killing modern vidya.


403048 No.15069483

File: 3ad4f759ce20088⋯.gif (276.58 KB, 240x287, 240:287, hitler rave.gif)

Take it from a real nazi if you are coming here and begging people to program vidya for you, you are already lost. Not to mention the fact that I bet your nazi art game would be overly hamfisted and bad propaganda that would even piss off hitler.


403048 No.15069507

>>15062339

this guy gets it


6f0bbc No.15069545

File: 76e279349e3ec8f⋯.png (51.14 KB, 625x605, 125:121, 1dcc90fa90329e336bd64a8552….png)

File: 96a50af8b23819e⋯.jpg (47.52 KB, 539x402, 539:402, 96a50af8b23819e17a21afe4a3….jpg)

Didn't know /v/ was full of fenceshitters, but that would explain why it's so shit these days.


711598 No.15069593

>>15069545

>i don't want to send all the rich people to gulags or kill all the jews

<YOU FUCKING FENCE SHITTER REDDITOR GB2REDDIT SARGON


c6aa61 No.15069630

Just what we need, more political shit in our games.


261a1f No.15069815

>>15069545

>it's impossible to have serious conviction in a centrist belief

This is literally the false dichotomy fallacy.


669a66 No.15069922

>>15069593

>or kill all the jews

Man, centrists really are stupid.

>>15069815

What is the enlightened centrist stance between gassing all the Jews and letting them degrade your culture into shit?


66410b No.15069940

File: cbe8ac83e96cb49⋯.png (199 KB, 376x302, 188:151, cbe8ac83e96cb491e776ab8a3e….png)

I want the neckbeard Illuminati to stop larping and I want them to stop shitting /v/ with their delusions.


1e71e4 No.15069961

>>15069922

As an enlightened centrist, I just want to kill the rich Jews.


669a66 No.15069974

>>15069961

Marx wasn't a rich Jew and look at what he did.


261a1f No.15070004

>>15069922

Try asking a non-loaded question for once in your life.

There's a lot of stances between the extremes, but the preservation of freedoms is paramount, and is often something conveniently overlooked by fascists and communists alike. What distinguishes this from libertarianism is that this approach doesn't necessarily reject or minimize the role of the government in society.


fabc1c No.15070006

File: d9163fbbd92a0b4⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 3.5 MB, 2048x1346, 1024:673, 457868.png)

>>15063838

I know one guy who did that…


669a66 No.15070027

>>15070004

>but the preservation of freedoms is paramount

Unless said freedoms endanger the very people they are meant to protect. The Nazis put a ban on weapons when they came to power, proceeded to disarm all the Jews and then lifted the weapon ban and encouraged citizens to own and train with their firearms.

You're just a far sniffing cuck more concerned with virtue signaling than with anything that really matters. Most people here are former liberals that gave up on liberalism because they saw the inherent flaws and what it had done to the West.


261a1f No.15070033

File: 00b88fc2d1f7d11⋯.png (6.55 KB, 493x402, 493:402, 1429594912209.png)

>>15070019

I don't suppose the mods learned anything from 4chan? Just be hands-off and let the community say what it pleases in most cases; if you really don't think something belongs then bumplock it instead of deleting it.


1e71e4 No.15070039

>>15070019

That thread devolved into pointless bickering about Hitler and legal terms. It was fucking dead.


aa0c98 No.15070042

>>15070027

>proceeded to disarm all the Jews

How is this supposed to convince me that the Nazis were right?


669a66 No.15070046

>>15070042

I rest my case.


b6c31a No.15070050

>>15070019

>>>/vg/


aa0c98 No.15070055

>>15070046

>It's okay to disarm certain people goy it's not like that sets a precedent for forcibly disarming our citizens so they can't resist us :^)


261a1f No.15070064

>>15070027

The only reason you're speaking like that is because you've never in your life known what it's like to be without freedom. You assume that things in a totalitarian state would be exactly the same just with all the bad parts cut out, and you're utterly naive for thinking so. They won't stop where you want them to stop, they'll polarize and keep going until there's nothing left but zealots and yes-men who keep their heads down so their families don't end up killed for dissent. It happened in Spain, it happened in Germany, it happened in Russia, it happened in China. That's an inherent flaw of extremism; it all too often piles the problems of society on a single cause or set of causes, and has to redirect to a new target once that cause is eliminated and the problems still exist.


669a66 No.15070076

>>15070055

Did you miss the part where they allowed German citizens to own weapons after they removed the Jewish threat? Or are you just a retard?

>>15070064

I am past the point of giving a shit. Liberalism has failed, and what's worse, put Western civilization and the white race in mortal peril. It's obvious neither leftists nor centrist have any actual solutions to the problem, and what solutions there are you are not willing to contemplate because you'd rather let Abdul slit your throat and Jamal fuck your wife than step down from your moral pedestal.

So what if they introduce a totalitarian state? Better that than a caliphate. Governments come and go, but once you shit up the gene pool there's no fixing it.


b6c31a No.15070078

>>15070070

>pol

>>>/reddit/


669a66 No.15070089

>>15070070

Difference is that we have no need to ban your cuck ass. Unlike leftists we don't have to warp reality to make it align with our ideology.


1e71e4 No.15070090

>>15070070

>Topic was about The United States being ham-fisted into being generic villains. The discussion was dealing with just those themes.

Except for the autists arguing about law, the history debate, /pol/ posters and how nobody was talking about video games. Aside from the majority of the thread, the thread was really on point. Have you ever thought about going to another board to get your patriotism fix?


aa0c98 No.15070115

>>15070076

Yes, the "Jewish threat", what makes you think they wouldn't brand Germans who didn't blindly obey the government as Jews?

>>15070076

>So what if they introduce a totalitarian state?

You wouldn't be so quick to worship totalitarianism if you had family who lived in a totalitarian state.


669a66 No.15070124

>>15070115

>what makes you think they wouldn't brand Germans who didn't blindly obey the government as Jews?

You mean leftists, liberals, faggots and the rest of the traitorous scum? Yeah, traitors gets the noose, imagine that.

>You wouldn't be so quick to worship totalitarianism if you had family who lived in a totalitarian state.

As opposed to family that lived in a nigger majority hellhole or a mudshit majority caliphate?


aa0c98 No.15070131

>>15070124

And who gets to decide who is and isn't a traitor? You?


669a66 No.15070145

>>15070122

Nobody is banning your dumb ass on /v/.

>>15070131

It's easy enough to spot a traitor. They go by the name of Marxist or liberal.


1e71e4 No.15070150

>>15070122

>everyone is /pol/ because /v/ isn't /america/

I've heard of the /pol/ & /leftypol/ boogeyman, but this is ridiculous. You're on 8chan, go to another board and if none meet your standards, make your own board if you're that upset about a shit thread getting deleted.


c9aff2 No.15070152

>>15061376

No, we're at that point where information can be spread easily enough that a substantial number of people now have access to the original factual information. The holocaust lie can not hold up to basic investigation. Only through a stranglehold on information transfer can the lie be maintained.


b6c31a No.15070162

>>15070122

>naming boards without the slashes

>mentioning /pone/

You weren't fitting in very well before, but making such a basic mistake multiple times confirms you're an outsider.


669a66 No.15070167

>>15070152

Or outlawing questioning the narrative altogether, so you can lead a five day long manhunt against an 89 year old woman.


aa0c98 No.15070169

>>15070145

No, not towing the party line hard enough would be enough for you to be considered a traitor, not holding the state above your family would be enough for you to be considered a traitor, totalitarianism always leads to the same end, and it's because of people like you who don't know what they're getting themselves into.


f58907 No.15070171

fuck nazis


1e71e4 No.15070173

>>15070171

I can't wait to play Wolfenstein: My Wife's Daughters.


669a66 No.15070174

>>15070169

>it's your fault

>not leftists like me that are busy flooding the West with savage animals that have no concept of democracy, rule of law or human rights

Okay, rabbi. It's us that created this problem by pointing out basic facts, not the leftists that have been in power for the past 70 years.


261a1f No.15070175

>>15070076

>I am past the point of giving a shit

Well the rest of us aren't, so you're just going to have to put up with our opposition to getting rammed in the ass by a tyrannical government.

>liberalism has failed

>leftists and centrists don't have any solutions

>you'd just let Abdul slit your throat and Jamal fuck your wife

At this point, you're just resorting to overwhelming generalizations because you have no other means of attacking the argument.

Neoliberal politics have become so radical as to be thoroughly harmful to society, but classical Lockesian liberalism was both the basis of our constitution and what drove the US during its ascent to a world power. If we could return to those philosophical roots, then America would be able to recover from the cancer of identity politics and political correctness.


669a66 No.15070178

>>15070173

Will the game thrill us with an interracial threesome where the twins give their virginities to Tyrone and then proceed to fight the Nazis while pregnant with his babies?


261a1f No.15070184

>>15070174

Quit shoving words in people's mouths. It makes it fucking obnoxious to argue with you.


aa0c98 No.15070191

>>15070174

And there we go, anyone who doesn't naively believe that totalitarianism is a good thing is a leftist, or a communist, if it weren't for totalitarians I wouldn't even be American, you take everything you own for granted.


669a66 No.15070193

>>15070175

>then America would be able to recover from the cancer of identity politics and political correctness

Is that somehow going to make niggers and spics go away? Is that magically going to remove the Jews from power?

The simple truth is that you have no solution to the race problem or the JQ and that's why you are a useless, virtue signaling fossil.


f4e5a2 No.15070199

>>15068364

OP here, I care nothing for money, I'm well off enough already, and even if I was poor, I won't need your help, I plan on the makers keeping 100% of the money.

I care about bigger things, vidya is the only media where we can push back, a place where an indie title can go toe-to-toe with pozzed "games" like "detroit", my concern is why we aren't making our own games to fight back in a war we can win.

it shouldn't be with games like "holocaust simulator" or "nigger hunter", and it doesn't need to either, the left never made a "gulag simulator" or "white hunter", because something so obviously propaganistic would repel the average lemming, it should be something that normalfags will pick up, the left went with subtlety, using symbolism and emotional manipulation to get the player to think a certain way, and you should too.

if my putting this into such blunt terms scares you, it shouldn't, this is how fictional works have always changed minds, and the right's lack of fictional works is why we are losing on this front, making our movies won't work, they can compete, same with music, and books, but games can spread like viruses on the internet, a game made with only $2000 can beat out a game with a budget of millions.

it's our chance, fiction is how most ideas are spread, not videos filled with statistics, and not memes, either.

we aren't adopting the tools or tactics of our enemies, we are simply enter a front which has been left wide open until now, and even if we are adopting the tactics and tools of our enemies, whats wrong with that? our message is true and our cause is just, id rather win by dirty tricks than die fair and square.

as for "keeping politics out of gaming" fuck off with that shit, it's the same as "keep identity out of politics", that's not an option, you either get leftist politics in gaming, or you get both politics in gaming, as long as the west has yet to be saved, there will always be politics in gaming.

and having some politics in a game doesnt suddenly make it not fun, you can have politics in a game without sacrificing fun for it, like i said, focus on themes and symbolism, keep it subtle, make it seem apolitical while carrying political undertones and implications.

think back to the media that was subtly leftist, the kind of media found in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's, it took a while until they worked up to the blatant levels of propaganda they have now, we start from the same place, make it small, and when they bitch about the right-wing themes, they will look even crazier than they do now.

and don't worry, we know very well how to go about this, the game comes first, the ideological content second, don't worry your pretty little head about it.


669a66 No.15070202

>>15070191

But you are a liberal, correct?


1e71e4 No.15070203

>>15070175

What drove America's ascension to becoming a world power was an untapped continent full of wealth, which was occupied by disorganized paleolithic peoples. Its principles were betrayed as quickly as they could be, and during that short time it followed them, it was a two-bit backwater. America, as an entrenched oligarchic, expansionist state with dominion over three continents is what become a world superpower. Now, it's crumbling under its own weight, and your solution is more of what got us here to begin with. NatSoc might be retarded, but you're advocating the oft quoted definition of insanity.


aa0c98 No.15070218

>>15070202

At worst i'm a civic nationalist, but I can't be considered that either because I do believe that language and culture are integral to our country and people.


669a66 No.15070233

File: b27383b89ad2a49⋯.png (887.84 KB, 1040x1110, 104:111, civic nationalism.png)

>>15070203

The simple truth is that you can only have a democratic society if the nation is racially and culturally homogeneous. Democracy only functions when everyone agrees on a common goal, but disagrees on how to achieve it. It's no coincidence that whites from all over Europe integrated exceptionally well to American culture and customs and embraced their new identities, while niggers, spics, mudshits and Jews above all cling to what makes them different.

>>15070218

>i'm a civic nationalist

So, a useless, traitorous cuck.


aa0c98 No.15070242

>>15070233

Traitorous? Just because I don't think that America is a white only nation?


1e71e4 No.15070248

>>15070233

I agree, but the problem is, you can deport all the illegal immigrants and halt immigration, but you still have millions of foreigners and niggers, not to mention all the other minorities. Nothing short of forced deportation, national division or extermination will facilitate a white ethnostate. I know it's fun to LARP, but none of those things are going to happen, and if they do, the country formerly known as America will become a third-world nation with irreconcilable border tensions.


ac86ec No.15070250


aa0c98 No.15070254

>>15070250

Explain the black slaves then, surely if we were a white only country then they wouldn't have been present.


261a1f No.15070261

>>15070193

>the race problem

>the jew problem

You keep dumping your personal premises into the argument. I contend that, in line with the habits of extremism, both of those things are primarily just scapegoats you use for societies' problems, even accounting for racial inferiorities. If a black or jew obeyed our laws in coming here and is loyal to America, then there should be no restriction on what profession they should be allowed to hold beyond what their own merit allows.

>>15070203

Your very argument is self-contradicting. You claim that classical liberalism was immediately discarded (guess the Constitution doesn't count), then end with 'it's the same thing that ruined America in the past'.

Which is it?


669a66 No.15070262

>>15070248

>Nothing short of forced deportation, national division or extermination will facilitate a white ethnostate

Hence why I keep calling the two liberal fuckwits in this thread useless.

>but none of those things are going to happen

If nothing is done by the white majority the issue will be forced upon them eventually. By that point they'll either submit like the Rhodesians and South Africans, or they'll fight back. The demographic shift is only accelerating, and it's really just a question of whether more and more extreme parties will come to power or if the non-whites outnumber the whites before that happens.

>the country formerly known as America will become a third-world nation with irreconcilable border tensions

Bullshit. The only reason South America and Africa aren't a gigantic slave plantation is because the West doesn't want that to happen and keeps everyone else in check. If the Day of the Rope happens you can bet spics and niggers will get to know what real racism feels like.


064b0c No.15070264

File: e93700d3e7e9beb⋯.jpg (49.97 KB, 634x435, 634:435, Seattle121508.jpg)

>>15070248

>it will never happen

we'll see about that.


aa0c98 No.15070267

>>15070253

/co/ isn't full of nazishit.


669a66 No.15070272

>>15070254

Ask the Jews. They were the ones that bought and imported them.

>>15070261

>both of those things are primarily just scapegoats you use for societies' problems

Yeah, because Jews aren't behind this "neoliberalism" of yours (we call it Cultural Marxism around these parts), and niggers and spics don't account for 90% of all crimes committed despite being a minority.

>>15070267

/co/ is an emasculated shithole that bans people for wrongthink. It comes as no surprise to me that you hail from there.


a66b34 No.15070275

>>15070242

>all laws prove me wrong

>all fact proves me wrong

>lol fact doesn't exist ha ha wow i right lol

>why u call me traitor

>>>/suicide/

Fuck off.


a66b34 No.15070278

>>15070254

>OY

>FUCKING

>VEY

>WHAT IS CITIZENSHIP

Zero effort. Reported for spam.


261a1f No.15070281

>>15070250

Last I checked, supporting equal rights wasn't a crime in the US.


a66b34 No.15070282

>>15070248

>but you still have millions of foreigners and niggers, not to mention all the other minorities

Uh… deport them.

>Nothing short of forced deportation

Wow. Just like the illegals. Whoop de shit.


000000 No.15070283

>>15070267

yea and look at it. its a shithole


aa0c98 No.15070284

>>15070281

But some people here like to believe that it was.


a66b34 No.15070285

>>15070281

Last I checked, no one gives a fuck about your feelings. Objective reality exists, no matter what you think or pretend.


aa0c98 No.15070286

>>15070272

And I suppose you have proof of both the Jews and the wrongthink banning?


a66b34 No.15070288

>>15070171

>>>/tumblr/

>>15070019

>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I CAN'T SPAM MY JEWISH PROPAGANDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>>/suicide/


aa0c98 No.15070289

>>15070285

And what exactly has been posted here that's objective?


a66b34 No.15070291

>>15070289

America is a white nation, founded as a white nation, for whites and only whites, and will be again. Nothing you feel matters.


a66b34 No.15070293

>>15070290

>I am too retarded to make a thread about the content I want to see

>so I will destroy all other content I see

>>>/leftypol/

Go home.


aa0c98 No.15070295

>>15070291

Then why were there black slaves?


669a66 No.15070297

>>15070291

Case in point, before the 1965 (((Immigration Act))) the US was over 90% white and only whites were allowed to immigrate.

>>15070295

Because the Jews imported them and didn't allow the whites to ship them back.


aa0c98 No.15070298

>>15070293

This is a video games board, and the last 30 posts have absolutely nothing to do with videogames.


064b0c No.15070299

>>15070295

>black slaves

they weren't considered part of the nation. they were biological farm implements who were supposed to be shipped the hell back when they outlived their usefulness.

additionally, it was kikes who brought 90% of them over here in the first place.


1e71e4 No.15070307

>>15070261

> You claim that classical liberalism was immediately discarded (guess the Constitution doesn't count)

Not really, most nations throughout history have had some form of founding legal document and illustration of rights. To proclaim that as a purely Liberal invention is kind of silly. Furthermore, the constitution has been repeatedly scribbled over and the laws of the land are often illiberal.

> then end with 'it's the same thing that ruined America in the past'.

Yes, the founding ideology of America was flawed and has led to where we are now.

>>15070262

I'm not saying it isn't feasible, but I am saying it isn't ideal and wishing for the self-destruction of America is childish.

>>15070282

Deport people who were born in America? Where would they go? Who's going to take them? How are you going to enforce this, when they're an overwhelming minority? We're talking about a hundred million people.


aa0c98 No.15070310

>>15070297

Ship them back? We could have dumped them in any part of Africa if we didn't need them, that's not an excuse.

>>15070299

Yes, and we accepted them, if we didn't want them we would have told the Jews to fuck off and keep their slaves, and them not being considered part of the nation doesn't change the fact that they still lived here.


064b0c No.15070311

>>15070302

not all opinions or beliefs are equal just on virtue of them existing.

nationalsocialism is right, and someone who comes here spouting about how race doesn't matter at all should be banned, because they hvae the entire rest of the internet, most notably reddit, to go spam their pro-racemixing faggotry and get all the ebin upboats they desire. not here.


669a66 No.15070316

>>15070298

>they've ass ravaged me and my retarded arguments

>better switch tactics and start whining about VIDEO GAMES

Absolutely pathetic. But then again, civic nationalists are cucks, one and all.

>>15070307

>wishing for the self-destruction of America is childish

How is purging the US of what is destroying it wishing for its self-destruction?


a66b34 No.15070319

>>15070295

>HURRRRRRR

>WHAT IS CITIZENSHIP

>HURRRRRRR

>WHAT IS LAW

Get the fuck out. Now. You must be 18 and have an IQ over 100 to post here.

>>15070298

So leave.

>>15070302

>Notice how this thread has long since stopped being about video games, but is still up?

Notice how your thread was never about video games, but was deleted.

>THat's because it's pulling the pro-NotSac line.

No one cares. Commit suicide. You have literally every single other website on the entire internet to autofellate your proven false ideas. Go post there.

>Notice how that other thread was on-topic

At no time was it ever on topic.

>Notice how I'm right

Notice how your thread was deleted.

>and your side is, usual, resorsting to scapegoating and the jew boogieman?

>OY VEY GOYIM YOU NAZIS SCAPEGOATED

>IGNORE THE ETYMOLOGY OF THAT WORD

>IGNORE IT

>HA HA OUCH THAT SURE DID HURT WHEN I HIT YOU

No one cares. You were proven wrong. Go suck jewish cock somewhere else.

>>15070307

>Deport people who were born in America?

1. Anchor babies are not--and never have been--citizens. Ever. No law says this.

2. Yes. Operation Wetback II: Electric Beanerloo.

>Where would they go?

WHY THE FUCK DO WE CARE?

>Who's going to take them?

We have guns, they don't. Whoever we say to take them will take them.

>How are you going to enforce this

GUNS.

>when they're an overwhelming minority

Learn what words mean before you use them.

>We're talking about a hundred million people.

Who gives a flying fuck? What does that have to do with anything? They will self deport.


064b0c No.15070325

>>15070310

the jews controlled too much of the government by the time they were no longer needed as farm implements. case in point: abe lincoln wanted to begin shipping them back, and the jews killed him the moment he outlived his usefulness to them, preventing him from following thru on his 'ship em back' plan.

most whites didn't accept them which is why even as late as the 60s the (((us government))) had to send armed soldiers to escort the niggers to the white schools.


261a1f No.15070326

>>15070272

Not everyone buys into the 'jews created cultural marxism' idea, and niggers and spics overwhelmingly occupy the lower economic strata, where crime is naturally far higher because crime accompanies poverty. Go on, tell me that's a reflection of their racial inferiority. Doing so will imply that jews racially deserve their positions above white people.


ed00ed No.15070330

Make a game based on The Eastern Front by Leon Degrelle


1e71e4 No.15070335

>>15070316

Because the process would require the termination of half the population. That's one hell of a civil war, and it would leave America thoroughly destroyed.

>>15070319

>it will happen by magic

Yeah, that's what I thought.


261a1f No.15070336

>>15070307

It's not the concept of a constitution, it's the literal philosophies laid out therein. The founding fathers cribbed overwhelmingly from John Locke's philosophy, and that's what formed the overarching moral tenets of the Constitution.


a66b34 No.15070340

File: b22c80c65d432e1⋯.png (853.05 KB, 962x2179, 962:2179, tXtbWSc.png)

File: 570fc56550d114e⋯.png (148.3 KB, 981x605, 981:605, 63WCAdi.png)

>>15070326

>not everyone buys

Truth is not a matter of opinion. Jews created communism. Jews created marxism. Jews created cultural marxism. It's the same fucking thing. Every single person who created cultural marxism is a jew. We know their names, shlomo. You can't be serious if you're this fucking stupid.

>and niggers and spics overwhelmingly occupy the lower economic strata, where crime is naturally far higher because crime accompanies poverty.

Proven false. Commit suicide.

>Go on, tell me that's a reflection of their racial inferiority

It is.

>Doing so will imply that jews racially deserve their positions above white people.

Except… no, because they are not physically or neurologically superior. Try again, proven paid shill.


a66b34 No.15070343

>>15070335

>no argument

>strawman

Thanks for admitting you were blown the fuck out. If you're not white, I suggest scouting out land somewhere outside of a historically white nation. Buy now and it'll be cheap.


064b0c No.15070346

>>15070326

nice try. poor whites still commit less crime, especially violent crime, then the richest blacks, so it isn't just the fault of economics.

also, theodor adorno and other jews were literally the ones who created the frankfurt school which was the foundational institution of cultural marxism. and, karl marx, the founder of economic marxism, was also a jew, as were most of the leaders of communism: lenin, trotsky, stalin's wife, ilya ehrenberg, kaganovich, emma goldman, karl liebknecht, and most others. mao's closest advisors were jews, as were the major pushers for marxism in the us (the early CP USA and the 'one big union' faggots).

jews are behind all marxism, cultural and economic, to dismiss this is to intentionally refuse to see what's in front of your eyes.


aa0c98 No.15070347

>>15070319

You mean the same law that we rebelled against?

>Anchor babies are not- and never have been-citizens

>WHY THE FUCK DO WE CARE

>We have guns, they don't

>GUNS

I see you don't have a concrete plan on as to how you're gonna get rid of these people.

>>15070325

Are you suggesting the Confederates were manipulated by kikes into murdering Lincoln?


669a66 No.15070348

File: 6fd81f4272fa637⋯.gif (246 KB, 1224x1584, 17:22, 1409272113768.gif)

>>15070326

>Not everyone buys into the 'jews created cultural marxism' idea

>I'll purposely deny facts because they don't mesh with my moronic ideology

And you wonder why everyone laughs at you.

>and niggers and spics overwhelmingly occupy the lower economic strata, where crime is naturally far higher because crime accompanies poverty

MUH SOCIOECONOMICS. Pic related you leftist clown.

>>15070335

>That's one hell of a civil war, and it would leave America thoroughly destroyed.

Getting rid of undesirables in Germany didn't leave the country ravaged. In fact, it turned it from a decadent, leftist shithole into a booming superpower.


a66b34 No.15070353

>>15070347

>You mean the same law that we rebelled against?

No, which one?

>I see you don't have a concrete plan on as to how you're gonna get rid of these people.

We do, in fact. I listed it. Maybe you should do your research next time.


064b0c No.15070357

>>15070347

>hurr durr what's a scapegoat

>>15070347

the plan to get rid of them is to begin killing them. if you begin killing them indiscriminantly, a majority of them will flee of their own accord.


261a1f No.15070364

>>15070340

And yet, despite all the graphs you posted, jews still somehow occupy many positions above whites. If this isn't due to race, then you accept that there may be other factors involved in what economic strata a race comes to occupy in a society.


1e71e4 No.15070366

>>15070348

I really wish you people would realize that America isn't Germany in 1933. America is a multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-lingual, multi-cultural empire and it has been for a century. If your solution is to kill all the niggers, spics, chinks, kikes, etc. it simply isn't practicable.

>>15070336

I realize that, but those same founding principles are innately flawed, hence where we are now.


669a66 No.15070371

>>15070366

>America is a multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-lingual, multi-cultural empire and it has been for a century

None of those claims are true.

>If your solution is to kill all the niggers, spics, chinks, kikes, etc. it simply isn't practicable.

Says the cuck.


aa0c98 No.15070373

>>15070353

We rebelled against the britbongs because we considered their laws unfair, and even back then there were people who didn't want the slaves or didn't want them as property, I think you can see where i'm going with this.

>We do, in fact. I listed it

No you didn't, you listed what you considered a plan but is nothing more than wishful thinking.

>>15070357

>hurr durr what's a scapegoat

And how exactly did the Jews manipulate the Confederates? While at the same time they manipulated shit in Europe?


669a66 No.15070380

>>15070364

It's not because they are smarter, but because of liberals like you that endlessly beat on whites for even contemplating sticking to their own. No, we need to be individualist, we need to judge others on their "merit", not their race, etc. Meanwhile Jews abuse these cuck principles of yours to claw their way to power, get rid of anyone that isn't a Jew and keep bringing more Jews in.


aa0c98 No.15070382

>>15070371

>None of those claims are true

And your proof of this is?


a66b34 No.15070384

>>15070364

>And yet

Is your lack of comprehension somehow supposed to be our problem?

>If this isn't due to race, then you accept that there may be other factors involved in what economic strata a race comes to occupy in a society.

Again, you suffer from a lack of comprehension here. You were blown the fuck out on all of your claims.

>>15070366

Every word you said is objectively false.

>>15070373

>We rebelled against the britbongs because we considered their laws unfair, and even back then there were people who didn't want the slaves or didn't want them as property, I think you can see where i'm going with this.

I'm only with you so far, insofar as what you've said is correct. But you're not taking this anywhere.

>No you didn't, you listed what you considered a plan but is nothing more than wishful thinking.

Nope, try again. Hint: IT'S IN THE POST. IF YOU READ THE POST, YOU WILL SEE WHAT THE PLAN WILL BE, BECAUSE WE ALREADY DID IT MULTIPLE TIMES IN AMERICAN HISTORY.

>>15070373

>how did the jews do what they're historically shown to have done

Read a history book? What do you want us to say?


1e71e4 No.15070387

>>15070371

>None of those claims are true.

How isn't it true? 56% white, dozens of languages spoken, full of people from around the globe, and it has been for a long time. I don't like it, but reality doesn't change simply because it's distasteful.

>>15070384

>Every word you said is objectively false.

See above.


a66b34 No.15070391

>>15070382

>oy vey you have to prove my claim wrong

>I don't have to prove it right

>lol ignore every law, every demographic measure, and literally all of history

Yeah, you're not even trying. Reported for spam.


669a66 No.15070392

>>15070382

The official language of the US is English, it's institutions and culture are inspired and molded by Anglo-Saxon traditions, and until the 1960s it was a predominantly white country that only allowed white immigrants to enter it.

Do you know who the largest minority in the US is? Germans. Do you know why you don't hear about them? Because they adopted American culture and the English language unlike worthless niggers and spics.


a66b34 No.15070396

>>15070392

In before the kike paid shill "corrects" you about the language.


669a66 No.15070399

>>15070387

>How isn't it true?

We're reaching peak kike here.


064b0c No.15070403

>>15070366

it only became multiracial because of jewish influence.

>>15070373

the confederates didn't kill lincoln; if they had intended to do such a thing, they would've done it when the war was still up in the air, so that it would benefit their war effort. they wouldn't have waited until they already lost. use your fucking head.

>>15070382

the preamble to the us constitution states that it's dedicated "to ourselves and our posterity". posterity means descendents. if the creators of the us constituion, who were all white, wrote that the constitution was for themselves (white) and their posterity (also white), then it was designed to be a white country.

additionally, the immigration laws originally EXPLICITLY STATED that only whites could be citizens. how much more proof do you need?

>>15070374

by rejecting nationalsocialism, which is the only racial ideology for whites which has succeeded (until it was overcome by a multitude of jew-led foreign powers, again it failed not due to merit but due to the numerical superiority of the enemy), you reject the plan for whites to continue to exist, since all other ideologies don't hold up race as the central point and are thus doomed.


aa0c98 No.15070419

>>15070380

>Race is worth more than merit

>>15070384

Yes, in history, when we didn't have allies and a reputation to uphold, and I don't see how you're gonna get the majority of the populace to agree with getting rid of the undesirables.

>>15070392

And I agree with you, but I don't think that blacks and mestizos are incapable of integrating themselves into our culture and traditions.

>>15070403

>if they had intended to do such a thing, they would've done it when the war was still up in the air, so that it would benefit their war effort

What makes you think they didn't try? And do you really think that a Confederate who didn't want to lose wouldn't consider trying to exact revenge?

>then it was designed to be a white country

It was, and for a time the government fuctioned as such, but times change

>EXPLICITY STATED that only whites could be citizens

Except for the Irish who weren't considered white for nebulous reasons.


1e71e4 No.15070426

>>15070403

>it only became multiracial because of jewish influence.

I agree, but that doesn't change the reality of where we are. It's important that people know who's responsible and why, but America doesn't stop being Brazil 2.0 because of that. Something needs to be done, but killing them all isn't a realistic solution.


669a66 No.15070430

>>15070419

>but I don't think that blacks and mestizos are incapable of integrating themselves into our culture and traditions.

All proof to the contrary notwithstanding, naturally.

>>15070426

>just accept it goy


a66b34 No.15070436

>>15070419

>when we didn't have allies

Read my post. Go research what I said. You know nothing.

>I don't see how you're gonna get the majority of the populace to agree

WE DON'T NEED A (((MAJORITY))), YOU FUCKING YID. WE AREN'T A DEMOCRACY. WE AREN'T RULED BY MOB.


aa0c98 No.15070437

>>15070430

>All proof to the contraty notwithstanding, naturally

Except that plenty of mestizos and blacks have integrated themselves? Or do you just discard those cases as an exception or don't count them because you believe they're inferior races?


aa0c98 No.15070441

>>15070436

Of course we don't, but then those people are gonna rebel because they won't accept getting rid of people who were born on this land and are considered American citizens by most people.


064b0c No.15070453

>>15070419

the irish were always considered white. this entire meme comes from a few comics drawn by some industrial-age english shitposters. too many folks spout this bullshit without even doing the least research into it. it'd be like folks 200 years from now imagining that 56% memes are official government portrayals.

next, the fact that times change doesn't make the change right or good. if things change for the worse, then only a fool just accepts it.

>>15070437

no amount of culture can alter a niggers or spics blood.

>>15070428

you mean such as getting their governments infested with jews and overrun with other nonwhites because most whites have been brainwashed to believe that race doesn't even exist, let alone matters?

nice civilization there.

anything which rejects race rejects the premise for its' own existence since ideas don't float about in the ether but are created by man and bound up with him. if certain portions of a race advocate for the mixing with other races, then such advocates deserve death since their advocacy rejects the prerequisite for their very existence.

>>15070441

says you.


a66b34 No.15070458

File: 5bbc9165eb5d15f⋯.png (2.3 MB, 1468x7317, 1468:7317, 5bbc9165eb5d15f4442ed3298f….png)

>>15070437

>Except that plenty of mestizos and blacks have integrated themselves?

No, they have not, and inherently cannot.

>then those people are gonna rebel

You've studied nothing about how people behave in these scenarios. Pic related.

>they won't accept getting rid of people who were born on this land

Then they can either leave or die with them.


aa0c98 No.15070478

>>15070453

>if things change for the worse, then only a fool just accepts it

And I don't accept it, neither do you, we just disagree on what changes were good or bad

>no aomunt of culture can alter a niggers or spics blood

I see that my "because you belive they're inferior races" theory was right.

>says you

Anon do you sincerely believe that people are just gonna accept being deported from a country where they were born and raised because they're black or Mestizo? And do you sincerely believe that there won't be whites who think that what you're doing is wrong and try to stop you?

>>15070458

>No, they have not, and inherently cannot

And you have proof of this?

>You've studied nothing about how people behave in these scenarios. Pic related

You must be pretty fucking cynical if you think that everyone other than you and others who agree with you are lemmings who will change ideology and beliefs at the drop of a hat.

>Then they can either leave or die with them

Congratulations, you've started a second Civil War, now how do you plan to win?


66410b No.15070498

File: 48b492bed960797⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 2.73 MB, 3600x5333, 3600:5333, 1525292777493.jpg)

>These two faggots keep screaming JEW at everything they dont like

>Not knowing the jews are controlled by a secret organization ruled by lesbians that plan on turning everyone gay

>Not knowing that the gay virus is now being diluted in the water supply

>Not knowing about the subliminal messages they put in anime to make you crave for dicks

>Stop resisting and embrace the gay anon

>There is no escape.

Check 'em


aa0c98 No.15070504

>>15070498

Off by one, that's gotta hurt.


a66b34 No.15070505

>>15070478

>And you have proof of this?

Uh, yeah.

>You must be pretty fucking cynical if you think that everyone other than you and others who agree with you are lemmings who will change ideology and beliefs at the drop of a hat.

Thanks for asserting something that no one questioned. You continue to be either a paid shill or willfully illiterate.

>Congratulations, you've started a second Civil War

NO SHIT, YOU COCKSUCKING FAGGOT. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING.

>now how do you plan to win?

We're white, we own all the guns, we control the military. What nonwhite group has ever defeated a white military, you stupid motherfucking lunatic?

>>15070498

>kike fag spam

>no argument

Get out.


aa0c98 No.15070520

>>15070505

>Uh, yeah

Then where the fuck is it?

>Thanks for asserting something that no one questioned. You continue to be either a paid shill or willfully illiterate

A paid shill? I think you're getting too paranoid anon, even a paid shill wouldn't keep posting in this derailed mess of a thread, they would have moved onto greener pastures.

>We're white, we own all the guns, we control the military. What nonwhite groups has ever defeated a white military, you stupid motherfucking lunatic?

The Mongols, the Turks, the Vietnamese, the Ethiopians, the Huns, and more that I can't think of right now, but you really seem to believe that American Whites will all agree with getting rid of the undesireables.


66410b No.15070543

File: e9c5ca338912857⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 31.76 KB, 488x366, 4:3, db6b659f88b85a145ad345e9d7….jpg)

>>15070505

>2 posts are spam

>Responding Not an argument to an obvious shitpost

>Implying your arguments are anything more than REEE JEWFAGSOYBOYSCOMMIES

Re rolling


aa0c98 No.15070551

>>15070543

Off by one again, today is not your lucky day anon.


a66b34 No.15070607

>>15070520

>Then where the fuck is it?

Every single fucking "nation" left by decolonization.

>even a paid shill wouldn't keep posting in this derailed mess of a thread

Confirmed paid shill, then.

>The Mongols, the Turks, the Vietnamese, the Ethiopians, the Huns, and more

So none. What about this is unclear to you? How much below 90 is your IQ? You're trying to get us to believe that the Vietnamese WON against whites?

>>15070543

Yid somewhere else.


66410b No.15070632

File: 567d506c5d81b1d⋯.jpg (90.16 KB, 600x509, 600:509, 15180003614492.jpg)

>>15070607

Its time for YOU to go somewhere else faglord.


aa0c98 No.15070633

>>15070607

>Every single fucking "nation" left by decolonization

I asked for proof of blacks and mestizos being incapable of integrating themselves into our culture, that's not proof of anything other than Africa being a shithole.

>Confirmed paid shill, then

You're too paranoid.

>So none

I see you're perfectly willing to disregard history if it doesn't suit your agenda.


064b0c No.15070679

>>15070632

>they begin posting racemixing propaganda.

clockwork.

>>15070633

for specifics on how it's to be done, read 'the brigade' by harold covington and 'siege' by james mason. both can be found for free as pdfs online.


a66b34 No.15070729

>>15070632

Not an argument. Reported.

>>15070633

>I asked for proof of blacks and mestizos being incapable of integrating themselves into our culture

Yes, thanks, you were provided with it.

>You're too paranoid.

Reported.

>I see you're perfectly willing to disregard history

You listed no historical events that fit the description.


aa0c98 No.15070755

>>15070729

>Yes, thanks, you were provided with it

No I wasn't.

>Reported

Anon this isn't /pol/ disagreement isn't against the rules.

>You listed no historical events that fit the description

The Byzantine and Ottoman wars, the Arab Byzantine wars, The Mongol invasions of Europe, just to name a few.


fda974 No.15070756

>>15070326

You are right, poor people suck.

But crime is more related with family structural problems them lower economic strata, and family structural problems have a deep relation with the culture of a society.

If that has relation with genetics and ethnics is yet to bet studied.

Woman's rights and "progressism" fucked the family structure, as the consumerist society.

You can blame "liberals" and Hollywood propaganda for all the violence and criminality of today in all Western society, seriously.

And also commies in universities and other shit.


a66b34 No.15070763

>>15070755

>No I wasn't.

sage

>Anon this isn't /pol/ disagreement isn't against the rules.

You clearly haven't been to /pol/ in the last month.

>The Byzantine and Ottoman wars, the Arab Byzantine wars, The Mongol invasions of Europe, just to name a few.

Mhmm, thanks for continuing to be incapable of proving your claim. Do you honestly think that you can just wiggle your way out of it with non sequiturs? Nonwhites cannot act like whites. Period. You've been proven this. Run along now.


aa0c98 No.15070788

>>15070763

>sage

What?

>You clearly haven'been to /pol/ in the last month

I haven't been to /pol/ ever since they still defended Trump after he said that gun control was necessary.

>Mhmmm, thanks for continuing to be incapable of proving your claim. Do you honestly think you can just wiggle your way out of it with non sequiturs? Nonwhites cannot act like whites. Period. You've been proven this. Run along now

Motherfucker I just named several wars were white people lost to non white people, are you so delusional that you can't accept white people are capable of losing military conflicts? And you haven't proven shit, you've just said that non whites can't act like whites and you expect me to believe you.


064b0c No.15070809

>>15070788

not the same anon, and i acknowledge that we whites have lost wars to nonwhites before. but it doesn't matter; even if we had never won a war against them, we would still want to remain separate. whether we lost some wars (which we did indeed on occasion) isn't really the point, atleast not to whether or not whites should remain separate and form our own ethnostate in north america.


a66b34 No.15070818

>>15070788

>I haven't been to /pol/ ever since they still defended Trump after he said that gun control was necessary.

Time for you to take a walk.

>Motherfucker I just named several wars were white people lost to non white people

Motherfucker, I don't give a flying fuck about your thousand year old bullshit that matters in no capacity to today. You know nothing about what you're discussing. We are remaking our ethnostates. There is nothing you can do to stop it.


aa0c98 No.15070822

>>15070809

It isn't, but the anon above you doesn't seem to be capable of admitting that. On a side note, you should turn your sage on, this thread's already over the bump limit.


aa0c98 No.15070838

>>15070818

>We are remaking our ethnostates

Then where's the fucking progress? Where is the proof that /pol/ actually is making ground on convicing the normalfags to become natsocs? And suggesting that history isn't important says a lot about you, you want to make a White only utopia yet you don't give a shit about what we've done and accomplished.


a66b34 No.15070863

>>15070838

>Then where's the fucking progress?

Keep moving those goalposts, shlomo.

>Where is the proof that /pol/ actually is making ground on convicing the normalfags to become natsocs?

A third of people surveyed don't believe the holocaust happened. Another survey shows that the same amount thinks that civil war is imminent. Oh, and 92% of people who are not Democrats (meaning independents, too) don't believe a word the media says.

So no control apparatus, the brainwashing is broken, and people already have the overton window shifted enough to accept A FORTHCOMING CIVIL WAR. Eat shit, traitor.

>And suggesting that history isn't important

Strawman. You're done.

>you want to make a White only utopia yet you don't give a shit about what we've done and accomplished.

Nope, strawman. Try again.


1c2e8d No.15070872

>>15070838

>>15070818

>We are remaking our ethnostates. There is nothing you can do to stop it.

Yeah, the board that was run and intentionally destroyed by a turk will definitely be the one to create muh ethnostate. What a fucking joke.


aa0c98 No.15070903

>>15070863

>Keep moving those goalposts, sclomo

What fucking goalposts? I'm asking you where the's proof that you're actually gonna make an ethnostate, and you haven't provided me with shit.

>So no control apparatus, the brainwashing is broken, and people already have the overton window shifted enough to accept A FORTHCOMING CIVIL WAR. Eat shit traitor

So a third of the people that have answered these surveys (that you haven't provided) believe the holocaust didn't happen, great, that's not gonna be enough people to win a civil war, and >>15070872 is right, you really expect me to believe a board that's been run into the ground over the course of several years by a Turkroach is gonna be capable of creating a fucking ethnostate?

>Strawman. You're done

>Nope, strawman. Try again

>Motherfucker, I don't give a flying fuck about your thousand year old bullshit that matters in no capacity to today


40387f No.15070927

File: 154ca0a0843bd43⋯.jpg (76.92 KB, 1000x1250, 4:5, 154ca0a0843bd43022c407136a….jpg)

this has been a good thread.

polite sage.


66410b No.15071011

File: 5a0a3ac1c4e6e36⋯.jpg (1.97 MB, 2945x2043, 2945:2043, 1523089871034.jpg)

>>15070679

>THEY

>Racemixing propaganda

Anon, In just a random fag shitposting in a vietnamese imageboard, its not that serious.

>>15070729

>Reported

See? I told you about the gay virus and you didnt listen.


a66b34 No.15071014

>>15070872

>not even trying now

lol

>>15070903

>What fucking goalposts?

Cute.

>I'm asking you where the's proof that you're actually gonna make an ethnostate, and you haven't provided me with shit.

Sure thing.

>So a third of the people that have answered these surveys (that you haven't provided)

Literally any search engine is capable of finding them, you lazy cocksucking pile of shit. Any link I post you would dismiss off-hand. I know how you work. Suck kike cock somewhere else.

Thanks for admitting you were proven wrong.


1c2e8d No.15071043

>>15071014

>no evidence

>no real argument against how you, quite possibly literal, niggers could't stop a single turk IN YOUR OWN BACKYARD

>I don't have to provide solid evidence because your a shill, heheh that mean i win the argument

Go suck turk cock somewhere else


a66b34 No.15071058

>>15071043

>oy vey u no evidence i say so lol i win now

>>>/suicide/

No jews here, please.

>no real argument against how you, quite possibly literal, niggers could't stop a single turk IN YOUR OWN BACKYARD

Fun fact: he's stopped. You're objectively wrong.

>I don't have to provide solid evidence

It was already provided. You're done.


59f2cd No.15071082

>>15070199

Lots of words, great noble intentions, buddy. All you talk about is the fact that politics and themes exist in games and that creators can push their ideas through their work. What a fantastic revelation! Let's assume you're serious about this and have infinite funds; where's your suggestion how to start? What kind of project will it be? How do you plan to staff your team? Who takes which role? Do you even intend to be a project manager or do you just expect to throw money into a funnel and hope something comes out at the other end? If so, who will manage your project? How do you know you can trust them to manage your project?

None of your retarded ideaguying is gonna get a product made. I'll still bet my left kidney you're not gonna organize or fund jack shit, you're simply a larping moron or a goon pretending to be one. Either way, I am at least thankful that you're reassuring me of my own undertakings.

If you have an idea worth spreading, you'll take matters into your own hands and suffer to make it. You don't pay someone else to do it for you. If you don't, your idea will deservedly die and be forgotten, much like this thread soon will. Try actually creating something in your life, unless you're the delusional moron I think you are you might gain some perspective.


1c2e8d No.15071113

>>15071058

>: he's stopped. You're objectively wrong.

Yeah, he stopped because he angered the admins, who then proceded to just remove all the mods, and handle the boards directly. Wow. What a great victory for the /pol/acks, that they totally took a part in.

(You) are a fucking joke.


a66b34 No.15071165

File: 3de70372ed6a27a⋯.png (314.31 KB, 1410x1562, 705:781, End of an Era.png)

>>15071113

>Yeah, he stopped because he angered the admins

Who noticed because of… three guesses now, shlomo. CM publicly stated we were the reason.

>What a great victory for the /pol/acks, that they totally took a part in.

Yep, keep crying. You're a pathetic little leftist faggot who's so fucking delusional that he thinks he can get away with lying about THIS of all things.


c50c45 No.15071261

>>15071165

He actually answered something among the lines of I stopped posting because I have aa life outside of imageboards but got his comment deleted, wtf?

Also, you're full of shit, everybody can see you're full of shit, but at least its entertaining to poke your delusions.


a66b34 No.15071285

>>15071261

No one believes a word you say. Run along, shill.


aa0c98 No.15071333

>>15071261

I thought that guy was talking about me when he said that I stopped, should've know that the people here are too eagle eyed to not notice a post though.


f4e5a2 No.15072392

>>15071082

>implying i'm not already in the middle of creating my own one-man masterpiece.


3ae862 No.15072397

GDScript with GODOT

/pol/ GO MAKE A GAME WITH IT

>>>/agdg/ and >>>/tech/


4263db No.15072449

>>15071082

>Battle royale where you play as a white male nazi

Done.


f4e5a2 No.15072453

okay, listen.

at this point, a game that doesn't contain leftist tropes is right wing enough to be a start.

maybe show the world of the game like the world actually is, showing an accurate representation of the world and it's residents is something no western media ever does.

have the races realistically portrayed: no black scientists, no white criminals, no multiracial gangs, etc. Maybe just have an all white cast in a predominantly white area.

have the men act like men, and be competent and moral (logical ethics), and the women act like women, less competent, and less moral (emotional ethics) than the men, make there be one lgbt at most, ideally feature no lgbt at all, and if you show an lgbt couple, show them as having an open relationship with tons of sex outside the relationship (their "love" is not like the love of a heterosexual, and neither is their relationship).

show non-white + non-east asian countries as the shitholes they are, and present the people as backward and violent, and not as the noble savages most media portrays them as.

if you show islam, present it as intolerant, oppressive, and bent on world conquest.

if you show powerful or wealthy people, present them as jews, not whites.

the story need not be centered on these things, but presenting an accurate representation of reality goes a hell of a long way nowadays.


2b08b3 No.15073146

File: 278f6eac88a5911⋯.jpg (3.29 MB, 1383x6447, 461:2149, 1527494686728.jpg)

File: 5df13eea8779d4d⋯.png (2.27 MB, 1920x6848, 30:107, f1ae9920d8740a227ffb391034….png)

>>15070175

>recover from the cancer of identity politics and political correctness

Wew, Juden Peterstein individualist detected.

I bet you define Whites advocating for their own group interests in the face of total disenfranchisement and genocide as "identity politics", even though neo-Marxist identity politics are actually defined as the Marxist class/cultural warfare dialectic involving arbitrarily classifying different groups as oppressors/oppressed.

All politics involve different groups of people advocating for their interests. Calling that "identity politics" within the scope of Marxist class warfare is a Juden Peterstein-tier horse shoe fallacy.


2d05a0 No.15073394

I was thinking of a WW1 FPS/RTS type game (one that didn't suck) or something that had to do with the Sparticus Uprising in Weimar Germany.


59f2cd No.15074422

File: 7a863e998219b79⋯.jpg (23.12 KB, 353x269, 353:269, veg.jpg)

>>15072392

>doesn't post it

>continues to larp


f4e5a2 No.15076492

A game where you play as a straight white male civilian in the SHTF happenings that /pol/ is predicting, I've always thought it sounds like an interesting setting for a game, and would really like it to be announced as a setting for a game before the events actually happen (if they ever do).

Maybe four campaigns, one campaign set in North America, one set in Europe, one set in Oceania, and one set in Africa, in all of them, you play as a Straight White Male during a conflict which is hostile to your kind, the settings are vastly different.

Could have an expansion that covers the asian front, where you play as a straight Japanese male in the JSDF who is visiting South Korea when the USA's protection of Japan is compromised, and troubles immediately arise with China as a result.

You have to choose your loyalties, find or create resources, prepare to fight or avoid combat, etc.

Maybe make it online and encourage role-playing among the players, or make it a scripted single-player game that swaps back and forth between the different perspectives, maybe have the actions one character takes in one chapter have an effect on the campaign of another character in a following chapter.


a66b34 No.15076543

sage


59f2cd No.15076785

>>15076492

>not one but FIVE different settings, which would all require unique assets

>completely vague mechanics like "find or create resources" or "avoid combat"

>online mode, despite it being one of the most difficult parts of a game to code

You have no idea how funny your ideaguying is to me. Make a Gmod DarkRP server instead.

>maybe have the actions one character takes in one chapter have an effect on the campaign of another character in a following chapter.

Hello David Cage.




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