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>>14881699

Game was ruined the moment mutants showed up. 2 was much better as a simulation of African civil war. Thankfully in recent yeats anns have started actually playing 2 instead of repeating shitty brainlet consensus views about muh checkpoints. Mods can improve it if you want but vanilla is fine if you slow down and think.

>>14881699

There are old 2004 forum posts talking about these on the official Ubisoft forums from back when those were the only real places to talk about games outside Usenet. There are several of these signs and they all have some Ubisoft inside jokes on them in machine translated Russian. Unfortunately, you aren't the first to document these.

>>14882034

Played it recently. Still shitty

>>14882034

>Game was ruined the moment mutants showed up

Agreed.

>2 was much better as a simulation of African civil war

It's alright, but the wildlife comes down to a couple of plains animals, the weapons that go from shiny and new to KBing inside a dozen mags are retarded, the level design is tedious as fuck, and constantly respawning niggers insures no real feeling of progression.

Far Cry 3 did it better.

>>14882654

Reminder that Far Cry 2, 3 and 4 are all worth playing. I can't attest to the stone-age one and 5.

>>14882654

>Far Cry 3 did it better

all it did was dumb down FC2 in every conceivable way, even though FC2 was for 360 3 still feels super consolized in comparison.

Even FC5 is still struggling to keep up with how great FC2 was. Maybe FC7 they'll finally catch up.

And yes, FC2 was rushed and unfinished, the fact they still haven't matched it yet speaks volumes.

>>14882683

The malaria stuff and mysteriously exploding weapons made it unenjoyable shit. Only good thing about FC2 is its IMFDB page.

>>14882698

>The malaria stuff and mysteriously exploding weapons made it unenjoyable shit.

it made it interesting and thematic, made you feel dependent and lost. that's only unenjoyable to adhd idiots who just wants constant action. and both were totally managable if you knew what you were doing.

>>14882745

>both were totally managable if you knew what you were doing

But it is meaningles filler. It really adds nothing of value to the gameplay, it is just busywork to pad out the game. That and respawning outposts.

>>14882748

If you liked the game-loop this wasn't a problem. If you didn't, your criticism makes sense in my opinion. I liked the RNG aspect of picking up dead men's weapons not knowing when or if it was going to jam on me during a firefight, and even though it was a QTE it was still enjoyable participating in the reload animation when it did jam. QTEs are great, but so often under-utilized and shoehorned in I think that's where they get so much hate from at the end of the day.

>>14882698

>The malaria stuff and mysteriously exploding weapons made it unenjoyable shit.

it made it interesting and thematic, made you feel dependent and lost. that's only unenjoyable to adhd idiots who just wants constant action. and both were totally managable if you knew what you were doing.>>14882748

>It really adds nothing of value to the gameplay

it adds tons of value by keeping you on your toes ready to deal with the unexpected. if you have autism and can't stand being in complete control you will have a fit of rage every time something unexpected happens. if you are capable of normal enjoyment you will find it amusing and challenging.

>>14882678

primal with survival mode is ludo, especially if you turn off the HUD and subtitles, the story is uninteresting anyway.

>>14882801

I can excuse weapon degradation, although it could have been implemented far better. The malaria doesn't add anything to the gameplay though. It literally is just a way to pad out the game's length and add to busywork.

I like FC2 as well, I'm playing it right now actually, but you shouldn't just excuse a game's fault just because you like it. There are things in FC3 that were done better.

>>14882843

Are you sure? The game looks pretty bland.

>>14882851

the game would not begoodwithout malaria. it all works together to create the african experience.

>>14882851

it's a really neat survival game. as a far cry reskin it's bland, but with survival it's great.

>>14882034

>Game was ruined the moment mutants showed up.

That's like saying Doom was ruined the moment it was no longer about fighting marines and you had to fight cyberdemons instead.

>>14883004

>the game would not begoodwithout malaria

Bullshit. I hope I'm not wrong about this but because of you, i'm really starting to notice summer arriving.

>>14883004

>but with survival it's great

Pretty interesting. I didn't even know it had a survival mode.

>>14883035

No it isn't. Doom's enemy roster complements itself and adds to the challenge. The enemies are mixed and matched to form a challenge. The mutants in farcry are just plain no-fun to combat. The level design also changes once they are introduced and just adds insult to injury.

You don't happen to be talking about a game you haven't played, right

>>14882683

>all it did was dumb down FC2 in every conceivable way

Just saying ridiculous things like that without a single lick of supporting evidence doesn't make it true.

>>14882745

>it made it interesting and thematic

Boring and tedious*

>made you feel dependent and lost

I never once felt lost nor dependent. I was, however, constantly annoyed whenever I'd be forced out to do another copy-pasted "kill 5 guys outside a shack and give some shitskins forged passports so they can ruin more countries" mission.

>that's only unenjoyable to adhd idiots who just wants constant action

Not an argument.

>>14883035

You'd need to be really fucking retarded to draw that comparison.

>>14883071

nigga I played FC1 on launch. it wasn't that great. Crysis did it better. but FC2 was pure ludo. louis pierre is a molyneux tier crazy genius.

>>14882843

>>14883083

Why do you keep talking like a nigger?

>>14883100

>Not only is FarCry much more open than Crysis

any one level of crysis is more open than the entire game of far cry.

>It was pure shit

I think that's your opinion you're talking about.

>>14883071

>There's like a vocal 5 people in here that will praise FarCry 2 despite being a poorly designed boring shitty game.

This.

FC2 was pure shit, everyone toss rocks at it when it came out. Hell it's the original ubi game, nothing to do but stupid collecting "a vast world" in which your presence matter even less than in a Elder Scroll, an IA that is pants on head retarded and a fighting that is actually in the way of enjoying the game like some stupid JRPG encounter variable turn to 200.

All the flaws of Far Cry 2 developed into the shitty games that became the "ubisoft game" stale, bland and boring approach to video games.

Far Cry has flaws (the mutants, indoor fighting…) but FFS it was still a time where you couldn't be BORED when playing a fucking video game. Far Cry 2 invented the FPS as a chore and ubisoft will never EVER be forgiven for it.

Ubisoft Far Cry games only redeeming quality is the writing has some subtlety and isn't abysmally bad like the average vidya is (it's just borderline bad), and Far Cry 2 is probably the better written one of the bunch, but that's it.

The game parts of the Far Cry Ubi with the sole exception of Blood Dragon, is fucking shit.

>>14882698

You're pretty bad at games, faggot.

>>14883161

>>Defending 90% chance to be followed after going through a checkpoint

>>Defending respawning checkpoints

>>Defending having to move and lose a ton of time to go to your objectives with nothing ever happening

learn to play

>>14883416

the original ubisoft game was far cry 3, which first created outpost clearing mechanics(which were shit because the map would completely empty after some time) while borrowing towers from AC.

FC2 had nothing to do with that.

>>14882698

>Mysteriously exploding weapons

Are you retarded? It was literally based off of the condition of the weapon. If you had more than 2 brain cells you'd know why they were exploding.

>>14883435

Get the fuck out of here with your middle school tier come backs. Neither of the mechanics I mentioned add nothing but frustration and tediousness to the game and serve no other purpose than pad out the game time. Seems like you can't even think of any arguments to defend these great mechanics since you resort to "hurr hurr git gud" retardness.

>>14883541

Same to you. "Learn to play" is no way to defend these stupid mechanics, since they have nothing to do with players skill. Only players ability to endure slow boring slog and bullshit matters.

>>14883574

Please explain how every gun in the game suddenly explodes after a failure in the players hands. I think it is pretty mysterious indeed.

>>14883588

Are you the guy who goes in Morrowind threads and bitches that he can never hit anything?

>>14883598

Morrowind is one of my all time favourite games, so no. Could you elaborate on this comment a bit, because I don't see the relevance at all.

>>14883588

I wish more games had guns that just fucking exploded in your hands. Realism is cancer.

>>14883631

Only if you can throw your exploding guns at enemies.

>>14882654

>constantly respawning niggers ruining things for everyone else

Accurate Africa simulator indeed.

>>14883626

Your complaint seems common to someone who's failing to understand the game's mechanics. It's not like guns actually randomly explode on you, you're just refusing to watch their condition and letting them get to the point where they will blow up rather than much like someone playing morrowind and missing every enemy is refusing to pay attention to their stamina bar or skills. All you have to do is replace your weapons as you see them getting worn and then won't explode.

http://farcry2.zsg.dk/GameMechanics.php#Weapons

>>14883718

>letting them get to the point where they will blow up rather than replacing them,**

>>14883071

>everyoe who disagrees with me is underage

You don't belong here back to >>>/cuckchan/

>>14883631

the best moment in FC2 was when I was trying to ambush a convey, popped out of the bush and fired my rpg… which just squirted limply out of the tube and landed at my feet throwing sparks everywhere. fucking panic.

>>14884361

FC2 was maximum disappointment, a heavily consolized FarCry with "open world" style pointlessness and meme-tier humor. It's only remembered positively by the 'muh first farcry' crowd and casuals.

FC1 was an amazing and beautiful triumph of engineering despite the awful mutant levels similar to Crysis's awful alien levels.

>>14882698

While I agree that Malaria was a bit annoying, it kept you a constant state of danger. Even you had nothing left to do and became the Lord of Weapons in the game, you still had Malaria creeping back to kill you.

The exploding weapons were important too. They were there to make the point that you're in fucking Africa and everything eventually breaks down due to disrepair. It was a level of realism only really replicated in STALKER.

>>14884396

Compared to FarCry 5, 2 is a marvel of ingenuity and technology.

Far Cry had a lot problems. Malaria was a bit annoying, constantly respawning camps were annoying, Kevlar-faced niggers who could take fifteen 7.62x51mm rounds to the face before dying were exhausting to fight, limited stamina was a bore, lack of nigger faction infighting was a missed opportunity, and the somewhat empty open world map was a bit of a let down.

But it still was the best Far Cry by far.

>>14884408

I hate this trend of technology rot. They know games don't have to be sold on the basis of being good anymore, so they just omit features that were in previous games.

>>14884396

Far cry 2 had humor? I dont remember any

>>14884428

Ubisoft meme-tier design.

>>14884458

That makes me wonder how actually viable that is,if you get cut you can bandage it up,if you get shot you can bandage it up,but it's still gonna hurt like a motherfucker and probably bleed through the bandage,not to mention get infected.

>>14884492

Pulling chunks of metal out of your body will allow it to heal, but at the same time the chunk of metal is no longer there blocking the way to prevent you from bleeding too much through the wound.

>>14884492

I think it's meant to be "field treatment", just enough to keep you alive and moving so you can at some point get to a real hospital. It's definitely a simplified picture of events for the purposes of gameplay. Also, he never breaks any bones and all the bullets just embed in his flesh, which makes things look like he's the terminator with a metal skeleton or something.

>>14884438

>healing animations are "meme tier" design

You're a retard and so is anyone who uses meme the way you currently are. Please kill yourself for the future of our species, do you part.

>>14884435

>gamejournos knew it

it received substantial critical praise from day 1

https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/10-years-in-far-cry-2-is-still-the-most-exciting-of-the-series/

https://www.please use archive.is/2014/11/20/why-far-cry-2-is-the-best-in-the-series/

http://please use archive.is/gaming/far-cry-2-has-always-secretly-been-the-best-far-cry-game

https://www.usgamer.net/articles/far-cry-2-retrospective-deep-dive

https://www.pcgamesn.com/far-cry-2-review

https://steamcommunity.com/app/19900/discussions/0/864976115443059281/

the only reason you wouldn't enjoy it, is because you're a shitter who can't handle feeling something other than power fantasies. it's the exact same reason you dislike the trigens as >>14884435 says. you're a shitter. trigens aren't the problem with FC1, aliens aren't the problem with crysis. FC1 is the problem with FC1.

>>14887535

http://archive.is/s7lPn

http://archive.is/DbuEp

>>14885408

meme argument tbh

>>14884396

>and meme-tier humor.

Please post an example of this in FC2.

>>14884361

>western stalker

That's a pretty good way of putting it.