63063f No.14873393
So we have this amazing game and a surprisingly great sequel, right?
So… what should we want? I mean, I think I wanna see more Gunstar games. I'd for sure cum with joy if they announce a 2D pixel-artsy spritestastic title, if they announce a new 2D title but without the visual style I'd get a boner although I wouldn't cum, and heck I'd be very happy if they announce it's gonna be fully 3D (but of course that last one would make me worry)
But then, I think any announcement should be worrisome. Do I really want sequels?
They mean a chance of ruining the franchise. Maybe the shorter the better, right?
Maybe two games are all you can get from this while keeping the quality. We all know what happened to Rockman and other series. Gunstar is a simple game, you know how to play it as soon as you pick it up.
Seriously, I don't know… the world of this game is super nice, the characters are dynamic and attractive, the whole thing is just cool. I think under different circumstances they would have made this franchise a multi-million yen IP, with manga and anime and a laughable 4Kids dub, and of course countless Gunstar games that are just terrible. Gunstar games with RPG elements, Gunstar 64, Gunstar games with little action and a lot of collecting junk… who knows.
That would have been terrible, most likely, but I sort of want to live in a world where that terrible thing happened.
3f6355 No.14873431
Treasure like a lot of great Japanese companies saw a lot of trouble after the 90s, with many having a sort of fall from grace in the late 00's. There was a lot of trouble. Companies like Success, SNK to an extent and of course Treasure are practically shells just sitting on their IP. Treasure rarely ever made sequels to projects and I think this is what made their games so refreshing. Be happy you got two of them with them being quite good.
9332fd No.14873449
Gunstar heroes is the weakest game in Tresure's record and Hard Corps is better.
63063f No.14873559
4a59c5 No.14873586
man i need to replay that sometime soon its been years. what a fun game. I remember I played the genesis one to death for weeks at one point as a kid.
I need to get around to the gameboy advance game, I've got a lot of stuff for that system I've been fucking meaning to play. I did have one, but a lot of the good stuff I never even saw in stores for it.
dad690 No.14873634
Best Treasure game coming through.
I'd love to see another Gunstar Heroes. Maybe add another weapon type or two, to add some new combo weapon potential.
While ideally I would like some fully sick 2D pixel art in HD, that simply isn't feasible for a small developer, so some quality 3D with 2D art-direction and cel-shading (like FighterZ) for some truly epic scale levels and bosses would be great.
I miss Red, Blue, and Yellow. I miss the co-op battles against Black. Red is a quality waifu
69e6d1 No.14873654
>>14873449
>Gunstar Heroes
>Not Mischief Makers
At least Gunstar Heroes was easy enough to control, and didn't include an annoying crystal collection mechanic to get the special ending.
96e863 No.14873757
>>14873654
Learn to SHAKE SHAKE pleb
80a7a7 No.14873769
>>14873431
Something tells me they thought the world would actually end in 2000 so they just blew their load early and didn't have much to offer afterwards.
63063f No.14873779
>>14873769
Interesting theory.
3f6355 No.14873869
>>14873769
No, it's the lost score.
63063f No.14873941
e2dd1a No.14874071
>>14873634
>"While ideally I would like some fully sick 2D pixel art in HD, that simply isn't feasible for a small developer"
Not exactly true (embed related), though I understand what you're saying.
>"…so some quality 3D with 2D art-direction and cel-shading (like FighterZ) for some truly epic scale levels and bosses would be great."
Games like Ultimate Ghosts N' Goblins, Maverick Hunter X and Castlevania Dracula X Chronicles did serviceable 2.5 gameplay. If they can come out with some quality cel shading or hybrid techniques like in Hard Corps Uprising, that would be neat as well.
718059 No.14874138
>>14873634
>Best Treasure game coming through.
Excuse me nigger?
63063f No.14874145
>>14874138
I don't disagree.
822437 No.14874148
>>14873449
>Gunstar heroes is the weakest game in Tresure's record
No, that title belongs to Ikaruga
718059 No.14874174
>>14873449
>Gunstar heroes is the weakest game in Tresure's record and Hard Corps is better.
>being almost this right
Hard Corps is indeed the better shooter, but Gunstar is still decent, just a tad overrated.
>>14874148
>Ikaruga
Now this is correct
e2dd1a No.14874180
>>14874138
>>14873634
>Treasure made Platformers, Action Platformers, Shmups and even Rail Shooters
>Most of them are some of the best in ther respective genre, or at least deserve some recognition
I really miss these kind of developers
64dada No.14874187
>>14873393
sequel? What are you on about? The gba game was pretty much a remake/reboot. That said, I prefer the genesis game.
718059 No.14874202
>>14874180
>Most of them are some of the best in ther respective genre
Now I wouldn't go that far; like I love Radiant Silvergun, but I would be hard pressed to call it the best shmup. Same for Sin and Punishment; great game, but when it comes to rail shooters I would take Panzer Dragoon over it any day.
3c3762 No.14874219
>>14874148
That isn't Wario World
822437 No.14874282
>>14874219
You're right it isn't Wario World because Wario World is a good to decent but criminally short game with actual personality.
Ikaruga is is a mediocre bland shmup that only gets propped up to it's overrated status because it's unoriginal/poorly implemented gimmick makes the whole game piss easy to 1cc at any difficulty regardless of the player's experience with the genre.
3f6355 No.14874289
>>14874219
I was gonna argue this and apparently Treasure has made two 3DS games, Gaist Crusher and Gaist Crusher God in 2013 and 2014. They look pretty decent? They're based off an anime I haven't seen but it's kind of nice to know they've done something besides ports/remakes since Star Successor.
Also you're all wrong, Silpheed the lost planet is the worst Treasure game.
e2dd1a No.14874352
>>14874219
Wario World was quite good, I wish it had a sequel.
>>14874202
That's why I said "…or at least deserve some recognition"
718059 No.14874358
>>14874352
>or at least deserve some recognition
And that's all. Treasure makes some fine shit, but almost none of it is the best in its genre.
63063f No.14874844
>>14874148
Ikaruga is a great game.
822437 No.14874941
>>14874844
No it isn't. it was just the first shmup you ever beat on a single credit so you pretend it's great
63063f No.14874942
I can't find much fanart of Gunstar.
f2e596 No.14875042
>>14873449
Nah, that honor goes to either Stretch Panic, Silhouette Mirage, Buster's Bad Dream, Dragon D-Drive, or McDonald's.
718059 No.14875059
>>14875042
>Silhouette Mirage
Only bad if play Victor Ireland's fucked up English version on PS1.
f2e596 No.14875117
>>14875059
It's pretty bad even if you play it on Saturn. Too many retarded bosses and the polarity gimmick was implemented poorly.
63063f No.14875441
I can think of few other games with the replayability of the Gunstar titles
1fb9bd No.14875586
>>14873393
I remember always unbearably wanting to fuck the girl when I saw the cover. For some reason I even looked for the art in a Walmart back when it had GBA.
Almost like I wasn't even in control anymore.
a4f24c No.14875701
>>14874358
This, Gunstar Heroes can't even touch Metal Slug, Ikaruga is overrated as fuck, and Radiant Silvergun just plain sucks. Sin and Punishment is too confused to be as good as Cabal, Blood Bros. or Wild Guns, and Sin and Punishment 2, while full of some pretty great ideas, is too goddamn long.
63063f No.14875743
>>14875701
>Gunstar Heroes can't even touch Metal Slug
I've never been high enough to deny MS is excellent, but Gunstar is just better. Sorry, friend, it's just fact.
> Ikaruga is overrated as fuck
I agree, but "overrated" doesn't mean "bad"
>>14875586
>I remember always unbearably wanting to fuck the girl when I saw the cover
Same, and strangely there are no lewds…
a28b89 No.14876160
>>14873769
Probably true, for some.
Japanese are very superstitious.
There were movie producers, CEOs, military men, and many more people from all parts of society from Japan giving interviews in the late 90s about believing in the end of the world myth.
3f6355 No.14876171
>>14876160
It's the lost score.
25b9c3 No.14877094
>>14875743
>it's just fact.
Wow. Look at this nigger. What a shitty taste, for real.
459571 No.14877099
>>14875042
Please stop listing shit you saw on hg101 you fucking cretins.
98188d No.14877260
Reminder to not buy Ikaruga's latest port if you don't want to see Treasure get massively fucked in the long run
989be5 No.14878390
>>14875701
So this is what shit taste looks like
7a6770 No.14878411
>>14878390
His opinion's spot on, he's cherrypicking though. I wouldn't consider any of Treasure's games to be the "greats", they make damn good games though, Alien Soldier especially.
f640d3 No.14880539
>>14877094
>What a shitty taste
You.
83764d No.14880632
>>14874071
Anon why are you adding quotation marks to your autism spikes
9677f0 No.14881628
>>14877099
>implying I've ever read that shitty SJW website
cf8b77 No.14884612
>>14881628
I don't even know what hg101 is and I'm not googling it.
5c8cb9 No.14884635
>>14881628
I know you did you fucker.
c0e565 No.14884645
>>14875701
>Sin and Punishment is too confused to be as good as Cabal, Blood Bros. or Wild Guns
wut
>and Sin and Punishment 2, while full of some pretty great ideas, is too goddamn long
Normally Treasure games get shit on for being too short, and now they're too long?
76844e No.14884784
>>14875042
McDonald's is a good game. Sure, it's not Dynamite Headdy, but it's still fun.
>>14877099
Those barely literate faggots don't have a monopoly on old, obscure games. He probably just looked up a list of games developed by Treasure on Wikipedia then emulated said games.
a86728 No.14889022
12f884 No.14892564
How are the characters even called?
f11623 No.14895221
>yfw Treasure returns for this year's E3
c8272e No.14895308
>>14873431
>SNK to an extent and of course Treasure are practically shells just sitting on their IP.
SNK is owned by the commies now, if they aren't a shell of their former self then i don't know what is.
How are treasure able to get by without doing anything though, it's perplexing. The last game they made was years ago, and it was a licensed game from a failed IP launch, and before that it was a long stretch of nothing.
382e1b No.14895710
>>14873393
Gunstar Super Heroes wasn't a Gunstar Heroes game. It was an Alien Soldier game.
c0e565 No.14896042
>>14895221
Treasure did post something on Twitter last year that they would never resort to making mobile games, and that they had something to announce in 2018. Hopefully it wasn't just the Ikaruga Switch port.
231978 No.14896068
>>14895308
>How are treasure able to get by without doing anything though, it's perplexing.
From what I understand, the company goes through long periods of existing as just a name that holds IPs while its members work as freelancers.
7c4aba No.14899227
>>14895710
What do you mean?
59c17f No.14899573
>>14899227
He's being snide and saying it's an unfinished tech demo, not a game.