/v/ - Video Games

I miss Front Mission. I want a Front Mission type game.

how about the whole metal max series, also i am sure there have to be couple more of Mecha related rpg, like the medabots one

>>14851225

Metal Max was more tanks than mech, at least to my knowledge. Not like we've got access to many in English though (and NISA's likely to fuck up Xeno, further killing the series out here).

>>14851218

We all do anon.

inb4 the FM Evolved faggot shows up.

Maybe they can try making a game that isn't shit to start off

>Xenoblade 2

>hold out all game for playable mecha

>finally see them, get hype

>end game is just gatcha farming rare blades

I wasn't mad, just disappointed.

Nips suck at making mecha RPGs anyway, they always go for the SRPG angle or have bland customization.

I'll have to make my own mech strategy RPG to scratch that itch. First mechanics will be on PnP. Then I'll refine what is the most tedious systems to manually run and automate, which rules to streamline for a game, and figure it out from there I guess.

I'll have to figure out what to do for world building. I don't want uncle /pol/ writing the whole plot if it takes place in current century Earth.

>>14851209

A mech rpg would kind of feel like you just substituted humans for robots. Can't even enter dungeons without making them mech-sized, or talk to people in a village easily without exiting the mech. Mechs are much better suited to tactical rpg and action games.

Sakura Wars was a mech rpg wasn't it?

>>14851382

I guess… bottom of the barrel choice if you ask me

>>14851229

On that note, slipped my mind that Bandai did put out a Gundam JRPG for the PS2, known as M.S. Saga: A New Dawn out here.

>>14851382

Mixed tactical mecha RPG and dating sim if I remember correctly. Still only one entry in English (Sakura Wars V), and it was the one set in America.

>>14851413

MS Saga was a game that was really uneven and underpolished that would have really benefited from a sequel.

>only enough large energy cores to build all non-gift suits once, plus one spare

>there's a large overlap between what you're given for free and can build, and you generally aren't given suits till after you can build them

>there's no reason to play around with building suits though, the story showers you in Gundam models that are better than anything you can make

>>14851522

Granted though..if you want the best Melee Gundam, you gotta go win some tourneys. And I'm still fucking miffed that Devil Gundam is just a mid-game boss in MS Saga while a black recolor of Wing is the final boss.

>>14851700

Is he at least aware of Front Mission 5 having an English patch? Or is he one of those "if we didn't get here, we weren't supposed to play it" sorts that just sticks with what we're given rather than pirate, patch, and play whatever? Just saying, since there might be more Front Mission in English than he's knows about.

>>14851713

He's the no-patch sort, but I'll tell him about the Front Mission 5 patch. Maybe there's still hope.

>>14851700

When nothing but shit is on the menu, the shit with corn in it looks appetizing.

>>14851705

Pls respond?

Making giant robot RPGs is expensive they couldn't even finish making xenogears.

>>14851700

I will NEVER buy Trannytech.

>>14851732

And this is where I go to another resturaunt, but not before I call the health inspector to shut the place down.

>>14851209

>japan loves giant tits

>japan loves lolis

>barely any lolis with giant tits get made

some things just don't go well together it seems

>>14851285

godspeed anon, i've been working on just such a game for nearly a decade with nothing to show for it. my setting has a bit of magic and some (hopefully subtle) /pol/.

>>14851749

>>14851705

No, but there are playable robot maids.

>>14852689

DELETE THIS TRAVESTY!

>>14852689

Tally ho those are some golly big tiddy lolis

But stop with the pish posh and show the lewd

>>14851240

>FM Evolved faggot

Those exist?

>>14853343

I got that game for free and i still feel ripped off.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>14853352

I enjoy video games for what they are and not for what I come up with inside my head.

What's wrong with you?

>>14852689

The fuck is that?

>>14853354

Why do you enjoy eating shit?

>>14853359

Well, Kabuto player here too. Have to say Medabee's chain gun is damn good. I wish we had a Medabots game that lets you fine tune your parts (You know, upgrade its armor, accuracy, etc.)

>>14851209

What I wouldn't give for a Gundam styled Battletech game with good gameplay and without the leftist faggotry that lets you play as Zeon.

>>14853372

You didn't answer my question, coward.

>>14853375

I actually did.

You just lack self awareness to perceive that.

>>14853379

How euphoric do you feel right about now?

>>14853383

Moderately euphoric, thank you.

>>14853392

When are you going to kill yourself?

Giant robots are inherently more fun in action games dummy. Why do you think xenogears relaxes it's rpg elements when piloting?

>>14851366

>What is Gundam Breaker

>>14853396

Only after you of course!

Not really, I have too many fun games left to play to kill myself.

>>14853418

Something that comes in 2 weeks I believe.

>>14852356

Why hasn't there been a Final Fantasy Magitek Armor game yet? I'd play a Final Fantasy game where you mod your Tek with arms named after Final Fantasy weapons and spells. The Teks themselves could be named after Final Fantasy jobs. Knight-tek being the heaviest but can push around almost any monster in melee. Monk-tek is about springing and punching and kicking. Thef-tek is about stealth and flanking, and stealing. White Mage-Tek is about repairs and holy beam gun. Black Mage-Tek is heavy artillery, elemental beams, missiles, poison gasses, etc. Red Mage-Tek is about dual-weilding two white or black gun, or one arm swords and shields at once.

>>14852689

oppai loli is trash

>>14853522

Loli is trash in general.

>>14853524

ur trash in general lol

>>14853524

goons are trash in general

>>14853513

>>14853564

Are the games any good?

>>14853580

I guess. It's a GBA game.

>>14853163

I didn't think that game was terrible, but it certainly wasn't great.

>>14853580

personally no

One is a rpg with tween animations, medabots ax is sorta like smash, and the gamecube one is an action adventure. You can watch some gameplay on youtube, or just pirate them and judge them yourself.

>>14853640

that's an action game you fuckwit

>>14853646

It has more role playing in it than dark souls actually. Especially if we take last raven with its branching paths.

>>14851438

Anon, it's 'el dra-soul'. The katakana reads erudorasouru

>>14854409

>Game having choices makes it an rpg

Stupid

>>14854192

Loved it. You battle all boss buffed up again near end me think too.

>tfw you see the japanese PS4 store with all those Mecha games which will never see the light of day outside Japan

>>14852701

Just go to the source faggot.

>>14853564

This looks like a r63 version of Ryu from Breath of Fire IV.

>>14851209

idk but jRPGs are all fucking awful with no exceptions so who cares?

>>14854801

Yeah right, grinding makes it an rpg.

I fail to see how Armored Core isn't RPG if Dark Souls is.

>>14853359

Where can I get some cool figurines that aren't from ten years ago

I had a bit of a nap and a strange dream about a Final Fantasy spin-off title developed by Form Soft. It was a fusion of Armored Core with Final Fantasy VI's Magitek Armor piloted by lolis with prosthetic arms and legs fighting other Magitek and mecha-kaiju versions of monsters. Announcer says Form Soft has all creative control over gameplay design and mechanics while Square Enix had the Tactics and Gun Hazard guys help write the scenarios.

>>14853424

Series was PS3 exclusive till the recent one

>>14862142

I forgot 1 and 2 had a vita release, I have 3 on vita, but supposedly 1&2 are badly optimized for the vita. which is to to be fair a given considering it's just the PS3 version

can someone post some /clang/

>>14851209

You've been misled. Mecha isn't as big as it was now in Japan.

>>14851251

the fact that Medabots is not popular enough outside Japan pains me a lot.

>>14862336

Medarot only sells like 10,000 to 20,000 copies with new titles nowadays in Japan.

>>14853469

I'd play the fuck out of this. Throw in some special/prestige job Teks for the player to unlock by doing well enough. I don't know how many Teks you could make though considering that many of the FF jobs don't use anything that qualifies as a weapon, like dancers and astrologers. Some of the other jobs like archer would be out too because their weapons are outmoded.

Bump for mecha

>>14863853

You're thinking of the wide array of Tactics/XIV jobs. I'm thinking of Final Fantasy V job classes at most with maybe a few creative jobs from newer games. Ninja teks would be cool as they would have human-like arms that can climb and throw anything. Necromancer teks could manipulate gray goo to mass scrap piles and monster parts raise them as zombies. Beastmaster teks can lasso organic kaiju monsters and pull them around to unleash them into enemie mechs. Things like that.

>>14851209

You're thinking of specific japanese losers and western weeaboo faggots like yourself

>>14862336

Yeah I used to really like the cartoon and stuff, its a real shame it never really went anywhere. Its not really even popular in Japan.

>>14851436

TBH that all sounds terrible. Maybe hijacking other mechs (Grand Theft Mecho) sounds okay.

>>14852311

Japan doesn't love either of those things. They make then specifically for western losers knowing that they make good profit off the west.

>>14851259

And turn based fucking combat

>>14863724

You forgot

>Another edgelord as this flippy floppy mysterious guy

>Somehow the Super Mode in the last season, you know, the one in backstory actually caused the apocalypse in ancient times…somehow doesn't work against the newer bots because LOL new model

>>14875814

I'd play a Voltron/Sentai RPG.

>>14877100

Well, there was a Sentai RPG, wasn't there?

>>14871176

That's not leaving too many jobs, but it might be just enough. It'd also be a good thing to actually have some magic involved. You can't just replace every single skill with technology. However, most probably can be replaced, for example replacing a Fire spell with a flamethrower. This would mostly only leave high-level magic like Holy and Ultima, which would be special abilities, each of which have different conditions for using them.

>Paladin has a sword and shield in addition to its arm/shoulder guns, has Holy

>Dragoon has a spear and looks like a dragon with a mouth full of guns, has Mega Flare

>Ninja has 2 ninja swords, is fast and agile and can pick up objects like cars and street lamps and toss them at the enemy, can turn invisible for a short time

>Samurai has nippon steel folded one mirrion times and lots of AoE attacks

>Berserker has a huge axe and is almost exclusively melee

>Black Mage has tons of guns and does a lot of damage at range but sucks in melee, has Ultima

>White Mage is a fixbot/support vehicle, has Full-Life and other powerful curative spells

>Oracle hacks enemy mechs' computers and inflicts the equivalent of status effects on them, ultimate ability allows it to use actual Oracle magic to debilitate the enemy pilots (assuming the vehicle isn't autonomous or a drone)

>Time Mage has the Temporal Fuckery Device equipped and can teleport and speed up/slow down/stop time, its ultimate ability is reversing time, but this requires a special powerup to be collected

>Shaman is basically a combination of the dancer and the summoner, performs Yuna-like dances to manipulate drone swarms and nanoclouds

>>14877181

Chroma Squad, but it's indie-pixel-shit sadly.

>>14879181

Don't forget the Red Mage who's like a gunslinger that can swap black and white magic gun spells on a whim. He can also dual weild two different "spells" at once because Dualcasting is a Red Mage thing.

A Blue Mage tek would be interesting. Blue Mage tek could do what FF8 does with scan and stockpile magitech into drives. Then you use stored drives of your copied magiteks like ammo to perform attacks.

Oh and don't forget Alchemist tek. Those tanks have dragon's breath and dark matter in them. They're prone to self-destruction and have limited ammo, but by god their alchemy bullets and bombs are devistating.

Since this is Final Fantasy Magitek can be mostly explained through crystals via magecite and alchemy. Normally you need to cast a spell like a wizard or cleric to manipulate crystal ether into matter or energy. Alchemy simplifies this process via items. And Magitek is the automation of alchemy. Nanotech stuff could simply be explained as microscopic alchemy and done.

>>14879381

>Chroma Squad, but it's indie-pixel-shit sadly

Not just indie-pixel-shit, but pozzed indie-pixel-shit with lots of shitskins.

Vay?

>>14879381

Yeah, you could have those too. I was thinking about the special conditions to use the ultimate abilities and it could mimic the system in FFX where you get to choose the Overdrive mode. Ordinarily it's just about taking damage to charge up the Overdrive, but each Tek could use one of these different modes according to its role. I thought about this because I wanted to include the Time Mage, but didn't want its time reversal ability to be so powerful that it renders everything else useless by comparison, so there has to be some kind of special criterion for it.

So for example the Paladin would use the classic Stoic mode because it's meant to take damage to protect allies, the Ninja would use Warrior because its job is to do damage and try not to get hit itself, the Oracle would use Tactician because it inflicts statuses, the Dragoon would use Slayer since it's meant to do damage but doesn't play quite the same as the Ninja, the White Mage uses Healer, etc. The most difficult Overdrive mode is probably Daredevil, and it seems fitting for the Time Mage to use this instead of collecting an item, but add the Loner mode to it. If you're in a situation where a Time Mage player has their whole team dead and they're at critical HP, their ultimate begins charging, so they have to survive a certain amount of time for it to fully charge. You can balance this further by including strong enemy AI and enemies with randomized properties that occasionally turn up being incredibly dangerous, and reroll these properties each time the time reversal is used or the mission is reloaded. You can also balance it by going after the Time Mage first and only allowing one party member to have each role. You could justify this in the storyline by invoking the higher technological complexity of mecha over tanks, making it much more expensive to create a mech, especially one capable of channeling magical powers. Each Tek would be equivalent in cost to an entire division of tanks, meaning it has to be as powerful as a division of tanks to justify the cost.

>>14881568

Oh okay, so you're giving each Magitek Armor class an overdrive. If my ID changed it's because we had to take apart modem and fix it.

As for Teks being more valueable than tanks is simple. Teks are powered by crystals. Tanks are simply engines with guns on treads. I'm fucking serious about Final Fantasy and crystals theme.

So how do you want to outfit each Tek? Gun Hazard style slots with armor plate, arms and shoulders weapons, legs, backpacks for item storage, and crystal cores? Crystal cores being the tek's job and overdrive system? Tek's job also limits what equipment and armor can be used.

Weapon classes are divided between physical and magical. Physical weapons are obviously chainsaw swords, spike knuckled, and autocrossbows. Magical hand weapons are Dia pistols, Fire/blizzard/thunder beams, Bio-blasters (poison gas), etc. Shoulder weapons could be "-ara" or "-aga" suffix weapons that launch grenades or long distance warheads. For melee users shoulders can be outfitted with "boosters" that can be used to perform martial art attacks. Cure-repair kits would be a re-useable backpack item for White Mage job or Paladin. For Warrior or Black Mage they can use the space for self repair consumeable or a spare weapon set. Just spit-balling here.

>>14887068

The mech customization in Xenoblade Chronicles X is actually really good and could easily be used as a model for this. It's too bad the story and localization got shafted. There's room to debate about what tech level should be used here. If the Teks are made with near-future technology like FFVII, they'd mostly use autocannons and missiles and wouldn't be that much more advanced than today's armored vehicles. At most you'd get something like a Metal Gear which is clearly superior to any real-world armored vehicle but costs a great deal more, and you'd have to pay a lot more attention to resupplies. The tech level in the Xeno series is much more advanced, meaning you can use blasters and not worry nearly as much about things like logistics because the crystal core provides all the energy you need.

>>14888814

I was thinking more about the tech level being slightly lower like in VI or XIV where teks rely more on magic than machinery. Steam-punk-ish Mecha. Though WWI is as likely as far as I'll go with the overall asthetic.

>>japan loves rpgs

What they love is retarded shonen storytelling, not roleplaying.

>>14896747

Gundam itself is prevalent almost everywhere in Japan.

>>14896663

You could always dodge the issue by having the storyline feature time travel. Then you could have mecha of every tech level. It'd be TimeSplitters with giant robots and chocobos.

>>14896752

JRPGs have objectively better gameplay than WPRGs. The best WRPGs are praised for their story (planet escape tournament, fallout, baldur's gate) and their gameplay is universally reviled and considered shit.

>>14896870

Only good time travel story I've ever seen in vidya was legacy of kain

>>14896890

The gameplay of JRPGs was stolen from early blobbers based on ADnD, the same system Western RPGs built on.

>>14851209

There were fucking mountains of them in the 90's on stuff like the PC-98.

>>14896984

>>14896920

They could do it if the Chrono Trigger team was still there. I wouldn't trust current year + 3 Square Enix with it though.

>>14897526

At least Magitek Armor game is up in the air to make.

>>14897853

>>No armor hunter mellowlink game

>This kills me inside.

Would it kill you to make a fangame, though?

>>14853359

Medabots was the shit growing up. Why couldn't it catch on like Pokemon or Yugioh?

>>14851700

Consider me one of those desperate people. I've nearly forgotten how Front Mission already had everything Battletech has gameplay wise, but more.

Only thing I want from Battletech in other games is the format structure, a mobile mech carrier, a crew that interacts during travel, and maintanence money management.

Battletech makes me itching for Gundam: Iron Blooded Ophans version of it. They share practically the same setting in regards to forgotten war machines of rare, but powerful capability, nobles in a league fucking shit up, travelling place to place in a ship, etc…

>>14898327

>>14898108

this is thread is for robots

there are enough threads about lolis, this one doesn't need to be derailed

>>14898712

Shame Battletech is pozzed now. Half the gameplay of good tabletop mecha RPGs is maintenence, customization, and economics. I think Front Mission 4 had that to an extent. Saw it played, but never played it myself.

After the Final Fantasy Magitek Armor idea I can't decide if I want to make a PnP mecha game with Magitek or go plausible Sci-Fi with a collapse of NATO scenario.