/v/ - Video Games

>>14824679

Here's the changlog by the way with the interesting bits in bold, that neck hitbox change seems a bit out of the blue.

[GAMEPLAY]

– General adjustments to ambient sounds:

— Increased resolution and character of reverb effects to better reflect surrounding map geometry

— Small mix adjustments

– Improved vent destruction sounds and increased audible distance.

– Added a new hitbox type for necks and applied it to the existing neck hitbox on character models. Bullets that penetrate the neck into the head will now count as headshots. This should make it more intuitive to tell when an attack from behind will result in a headshot.

– Fixed ‘use’ key to more reliably pick up weapons on the ground and to not drop the active weapon if a replacement weapon cannot be picked up.

[MAPS]

Nuke:

– Optimizations for low settings

– Blocked visibility between silos inside A site

– Ported over ShortNuke gameplay changes:

— Removed Toxic

— Vent no longer connects directly to B site, but has another exit close to double doors

— Pushed new corner boxes on B site further back to prevent headshot angle towards ramp

— Added solid background to yellow crane inside B site

— Smoothed out some player movement

Overpass:

– Lowered volume of ambient sounds in Overpass

– Added grenade and player collision to fence cage near construction

– Removed spooky shadow fading in when approaching T main entrance to B site

Forgot to say that talking about the earlier games ITT is fine too.

>>14824687

How exactly does it not have any depth?

>>14824687

>just play casual

More like just play when operations drop.

>>14824693

Forgive me for answering a question with another question, but how exactly does it have any depth? The actual differences between any two weapons all comes down to range and spread and everyone uses the same 3 or 4 weapons anyways. There's meta autism sure but even a game like Smash Bros can have meta autism

>>14824702

>The actual differences between any two weapons all comes down to range and spread and everyone uses the same 3 or 4 weapons anyways.

That's 100% wrong. They have different recoil patterns this is deeper than spread since learning them is an actual skill, different damage both against armored and unarmored targets some are crap vs armor for example, this matters when facing an eco, different penetration through cover, different costs that dictate when you'll even use them, different penalties for firing on the move, different movement speed penalties and even different reward values. If you think it's only range and spread you've got a terrible grasp of how the game works if you've ever even played it at all.

>>14824715

>different reward values

I'll explain that just in case you haven't played the game. The default for each each kill is a flat $300. SMGs other than the P90 give $600, shotguns give $900 and the AWP $100. Grenades are also $300 and actually grenade use is a massively important facet of the game you failed to mention entirely. Getting to an actually reasonable rank requires skills like grenade use, game sense and so on far beyond simple twitch shooting which frankly can only carry you so far. The economy of a full game and how you should manage your money is something often underestimated by new players, obviously it runs a lot deeper than simple kills since opportunities to gain and spend money are many.

>>14824728

>You remain steady, you aim for head, and you shoot.

That's one very small facet of the game.

>I never play comp because they're all a bunch of angry autistic shitters

Yes if you want to play comp you'd better have a few non-autistic friends.

>but I can tell you from my experience playing cas all you need is the M16/AK-47 and maybe an AWP if you want to turn it from an FPS into a point and click adventure game but even then you can take AWPers out easily by getting up onto them and controlling your movements. I know comp is probably a lot different from casual but I actually play games to have fun (weird I know) and not for e-sports cancer

Casual is an entirely different game the knowledge you have from that just doesn't apply to matchmaking competitive.

>>14824702

>The actual differences between any two weapons all comes down to range and spread and everyone uses the same 3 or 4 weapons anyways.

>>14824728

>I never play comp

Once again /v/ outs itself as hating on a game it has no understanding of.

>>14824700

That's actually what I'm tending towards just to get some variety in maps.

>>14824748

>The game is only comp

There are many many games that are worth really diving into the competitive scene with. CS:GO isn't one of them. The difference between comp and casual is no different than the difference between playing Pokemon casually and Smogon shit. You really don't need more than a superficial grasp of the game to get it

>>14824728

>it has no mechanical depth

>yes it does in competitive

>lol I don't play comp and get by without those mechanics

Holy fuck. I don't care that you don't play comp, and I don't care about CS, but your retardation enrages me.

>>14824767

>/V/

>/VG/

This is the same faggot who's been trying to start board drama all night. Report and filter.

>>14824763

>The difference between comp and casual is no different than the difference between playing Pokemon casually and Smogon shit.

Now I know you have no idea what the fuck you're on about. http://counterstrike.wikia.com/wiki/Casual#Differences_from_competitive_mode

>>14824802

That's gotta be an edit,and a poor one at that.

>>14824795

Cosmetics are annoying to be fair. CS:GO is a game that's good despite Valve not because of Valve.

>>14824894

>Why the fuck did you make this thread.

He isn't OP though?

>>14824679

The fact that t’s can get to A in the time they can is retarded and I’ve always hated the vents. The map has some pretty big problems just from how it’s always been and I guess they’re trying to mix it up to change that, I don’t think it will ever be that good tho now

>>14824693

There's no really impactful decision-making once the 10 seconds of buying shit are over.

Once the round timer starts and everyone gets moving the only choices to be made are "bombsite/hostage A or bombsite/hostage B?" and the routes to said things.

A game with so few decisions to make in an ongoing round is not very deep, no matter how much recoil/spray pattern autism is in there.

>>14824988

>muh nu-/v/

>while taking the most halfchan-core game out right now this seriously

>>14824991

If you're just playing with randoms, then of course it's not going to get any deeper than that. You're able to get away with everyone just doing their own thing in matchmaking since it's not like the other team is any more organized than yours. It's only when you're playing a match with an actual pre-made team against another that you'll see mid-round decision making and not just basic strats. Here's a fairly basic example of an execute on Nuke's A site.

>>14824965

Nuke is what nuke is, no sense turning it into something else which is what they're doing.

>>14824991

You're retarded.

>Once the round timer starts and everyone gets moving the only choices to be made are "bombsite/hostage A or bombsite/hostage B?" and the routes to said things.

Knowing when and how to rotate points is a major skill.

>>14824959

I linked you to the differences between competitive and casual here >>14824790 but casual mode removes almost the entire economic angle from the game in addition to dumbing down other things. You play babby's Counter Strike then turn around and complain it has no depth.

>>14824991

You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>14825031

>Quake and Unreal are nothing like CsGo nor should they ever be compared.

You're right. Quake and Unreal have actual movement and verticality to its gameplay instead of stand still and tap M1 a couple times

>>14825045

>instead of stand still and tap M1 a couple times

Go try that in competitive and report back how well it works.

>>14825045

More proof you've never played a serious game of counter strike in your life. GO is a game about bursts, not tapping and standing still is a serious mistake.

>>14824748

Always the case when it comes to cs and doto.

Not a fan of ranked games that require communication and teamwork. Solo carrying is what makes competitive games fun.

I'd only get play CS to get clips and make cool fragmovies but that's about it.

I come to you with two inquiries:

1. why did you make a new thread when there's one here >>14786267 about the same thing already?

2. judging by the amount of replies and unique IDs these threads usually get from people that according to themselves do play the game why is it that nobody has yet pitched the idea of playing together? I get you're all turbo autismo extraordinaire but we're all anons after all

LET ME POST FAGGOT FUCK SHIT PORCHMONKEY ASHGDSHFSDHFS

>>14826865

>2. judging by the amount of replies and unique IDs these threads usually get from people that according to themselves do play the game why is it that nobody has yet pitched the idea of playing together? I get you're all turbo autismo extraordinaire but we're all anons after all

It was suggested a few months ago but everyone was too scared to share steam IDs. We did play 1.6 during a gamenight though and that was pretty fun.

I frankly believe you faggots deserve some bullying here. Fuck off with this cash cow nuGame full of cancer, if you want CS untainted go play 1.6 or Source.

>>14826872

>I frankly believe you faggots deserve some bullying here

go ahead I'm not going to cry

> if you want CS untainted go play 1.6 or Source

that's where you're wrong kiddo, I DO play 1.6 and source as well but thing is the servers for pretty much both as of now are full huezilian 16k startmoney, no friendly fire, dust2 24/7, awp, shield, autosniper BANNED, and the competitive scene is pretty much dead unless you join a league like esea which requires a paid yearly subscription. valve's matchmaking despite its many shortcomings is the only "free" and easy to access alternative which allows me to play a semi-serious game with the standard competitive ruleset.

>>14826869

>It was suggested a few months ago but everyone was too scared to share steam IDs

tbh anyone who doesn't have a private profile on steam deserves all the shit they get

>We did play 1.6 during a gamenight though and that was pretty fun

yeah I was there pretty much every night and I fucked you all raw

why can I not post images anymore, fix your shit

>>14826934

>why can I not post images anymore, fix your shit

CM apparently broke it.

I'm not surprised. Valve ruined CS:GO a long time ago (well, it was ruined from the start, but once they added all the gun skins and other bullshit, it started to get bad). Overhauling all the maps to simplify things and get rid of cool spots (they made the silo jump on Nuke braindead easy), removing the classic maps entirely (Vertigo was fun, so was the T spawn jump), changing ladder physics, and stripping, monetizing and severely limiting the single-most characterizing feature of Source games- that being the sprays. I had actually predicted a long time ago they were going to re-implement sprays, but monetize them and only provide you a limited pool. I definitely did not expect them to go the extra mile and make them limited use, though.

They also focused heavily on a ranked matchmaking system which isn't uncommon, but this basically ensures that nobody plays on custom servers outside of the very niche mini-games like surf and climb (most of which are just ported over from CS:S). Little communities intent on actually playing the game are pretty much non-existent. All the custom maps and content are pretty much gone with them. All there really is to play is either CEVO / ESEA, or you kick it with the blatant hackers on official matchmaking, playing the same 8 or so maps for the next 10 years.

>>14827031

Well what has fucked up CS over the years has been the focus on the competitive scene.

However in my opinion CSGO has become "better" in the sense that's getting close to being the "perfectly balanced" game that people want but at that point it will become boring since there won't be much fun to be had because any addition will break it and the only ones left playing are going to be skinfags, pros and russians.

>>14825162

>GO is a game about bursts, not tapping and standing still is a serious mistake.

Good job bungling up your sentence retard

>>14827229

What did he mean by this?

if you play csgo unironically you deserve to get fucked in the ass by valve. complain all you want, they're not going to listen.

>>14824789

get a high rank if you want high level gameplay. YOu have to play comp if you actually want to experience this game so you understand why quickpeeking/firefight psychology/prefiring/optimizing weapon performance etc. You will never understand until you get your shit pushed in that's how every videogame works.

>>14825162

have you ever played a game of CS in your life? Rounds 1-3 are usually always spray and pray rounds especially if T wins round 1 and goes mac 10s round 2.

>>14824959

it's not like rainbow 6 where casual and ranked are almost the same game(you can practice siege in casual and be good in ranked)

CS:GO's casual versus comp rulesets are so far removed from each other that playing casual in CSGO is like playing a different game than comp(because in comp you have eco and you have to coordinate your pushes and can't float through fucking teammates)

Competitive CS has the same whinny retarded children that MOBA games attract, I don't know how anyone outside of the autism spectrum can stand that mode.

>>14832369

>I ran around like a retard with the bomb in comp and got yelled at by my teammates the post

Case in point: >>14832490

Game was better before Volvo buffed handguns to the point of breaking it tbh.

>>14832281

Again, you've clearly never played competitive.

>>14824702

the game is based around an economy you fucking retard, nice job displaying a complete lack of basic knowledge why trying to criticize something. no shit people will use the best things they can afford.

>how does it have any depth

economy strategies, tactical strategies with team, weapon strategies when low on cash, learning maps is 110% required, recoil patterns must be mastered for each gun, a player with higher skill than another player will shit on said player in all scenarios.

>>14841327

Don't bother, most people here don't even understand recoil management, let alone how to win a match.

>First game of ranked in csgo

>Team caols for surrender immediately as famous hacker is in the other team

Nice competitive game

p.s. Map awareness, timimg and rotation are the basics in every other game

>>14841379

> as famous hacker

Never heard of such a thing, my man. Sounds like bullshit to me.

We been over this before, the majority of /v/ niggers bitching about CSGO are silver shitters who doesn't have a lick of grasp on the mechanics and thinks their opinions matter or are creditable. Just look at

>>14841379

What the fuck are you even talking about

>>14832490

There is a huge amount of faggots in /v/ who think that online gaming should be reserved to griefing alone. Because somehow killing your teammates is the only way to properly play online.

>>14836971

compared to 1.6 pistols are literal shit in this game

>>14832311

casual mixes are something people ask for since 2012 probably

>>14841490

why are you still playing cs:go at this point? I stopped playing ranked in… idk, 2015 or 2016. Was Legendary Eagle back then. Idk what rank they would give me if I started to play again, but I am definitely not going to try.

>>14841554

yeah no, you are gay. If you grew up with cs you would hate cs:go. This goes against everything cs stand for.

>>14841379

Mechanical execution is basic to almost every game. Does that mean that mechanical execution has no depth? Timing is a broad concept you will never master in your lifetime despite it being basic, you miserable idiot.

>>14826865

Thanks for advertising my thread loser ha

>>14841572

What does cs stand for then?

>>14847175

Counter Strike.

>>14824684

>– Added a new hitbox type for necks and applied it to the existing neck hitbox on character models. Bullets that penetrate the neck into the head will now count as headshots. This should make it more intuitive to tell when an attack from behind will result in a headshot.

Weird change to make so long after release.

>>14856015

Long overdue tbh.

>>14865816

>new operation when

Aren't they usually every three months?

>>14877056

There hasn't been one for all of 2018 I do't think.

Laughed out loud irl at anon saying this shit has any depth to it.

>tiny maps with 2-3 corridors everyone gets funneled into

>no ranged combat whatsoever, because entire map is too small for even a hint of it

>shotguns have 3 meter range tops

>jog, walk and crouch as movement options, no crawl (because running or sprinting would make you cross the map in 5 seconds)

>all weapons have 100% accuracy on first shot after staying steady for a second

>no sights besides sniper rifles (which don't even have any spread, swaying and no hold breath mechanic)

Twitch skills is the only thing that matters in this game. Proof: you'll die to a person with aimbot cranked up to maximum 99.5% of the time.

>>14888332

>no sights

>no crawl

you're just fucking retarded for that one good bait, keep it up

but on a side note, the movement is fucked hard

>they added a mechanic to gimp movement so that if you're shot you stop moving making it easier for people to place follow up shots

that's the pinicle of shitty game design and lack of depth, just fucking remove x, y, and z motion while you're at it

just spawn a row of each team in front of each-other, you'll have the same experience

>>14826872

People who use the prefix 'nu' aren't genuine hobbyists.

>>14888672

The idea behind the movement gimp mechanic was primarily to stop faggots excessively stutter-stepping during shootouts since anyone who could do it well could have accuracy equivalent to standing still while fucking with the way headshots and the like were registered. Not an ideal solution but better than the alternative.

>>14824748

5$ that every /v/ cuck is a silver scrub

No one has said it so I will, Comp players hate CS maps that aren't DE_Dust II because of "asymmetrical map design". basically the thought of a map that is heavily CT or T sided upsets them because "it's a guaranteed win". It's why you don't see aztec anymore, why nuke has been butched, why highrise (name?) is gone.

These maps promote a advantage to one side over the other and that's a bit no-no to comp players. They need everything to essentially be a box map that can be divided into 4 squares.

You're not going to see any innovative maps in esports or CS:GO. Unpredictability is a forbidden. Same reason why WoW fags champion Arena, no chance of ass pulling mobs, no chance of the tide being turned against them. That lead to a homogenization of the classes and what they have now.

> playing go and not 1.6

>>14897082

I really enjoyed the classic Nuke layout, and Inferno layout. Those felt like beating stacked odds when you pulled a 8-7 total at half time, even if you were still technically losing.

>>14897091

lol

>>14841578

>you miserable idiot.

*tips fedora*

>>14897109

Problem is esports faggots don't like that. Little do they realize battlefields are seldom ever symmetrical. Terrain will always vary and may give one side a height advantage over the other or formations may give defenses while becoming emplacements to the enemy,

>>14897091

>not 1.5