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>>14658755

>杏鈴

Is that read あすず? These two seem a lot better than those boring twins.

>>14658769

the blonde is 杏鈴(あんず) and the blue haired is 杏璃(あんり), they're the sisters of the main character, who was adopted, but I think the girls are biological. Their routes are separate but I'm hoping for at least one good 3P scene by the end.

>>14658795

I think the ultimate test for if you've totally mastered Japanese is if you can watch the credits to a movie or game and read more than 50% of the names

this is mostly a joke

>>14658803

It does get easier with experience, but there are a lot of anomalies.

For those of you wondering how divergent nip dialects can get, watch this.

Why learn Nip when you could learn Rus?

>>14659026

That's more of a different language than a dialect.

>>14659028

Why not both?

>>14659028

Because Nips make awesome games and manga but Russians only make… vodka and oil? Who the fuck cares about Russian?

>>14659045

In Japan, it is considered a 方言.

>>14659067

>get a brain implant so you can just plug books into your skull

>get hacked

<become even gayer than you are now

>>14659068

yeah, and in America, the heaviest of ebonics is still considered a dialect of English, but to any foreigners learning to understand it would basically be like learning another language.

>>14658727

Post porn

>>14659075

I am posting on an imageboard, trying to learn a foreign language for the sole purpose of being able to understand cartoons and electronic toys.

I dont think its possible to become much gayer than this.

>>14659026

How do they communicate?

>>14659101

>download a file from the internet to learn nip

>get rused and instead become a communist

Anyway anon taking time to learn languages is very good for your brain, delays/prevents alzheimers, dementia, a bunch of shit like that.

>>14659109

From what I've read and heard, Okinawans generally learn (and maybe use it at school/official functions, could be wrong) Japanese. They just also have their own language.

>>14659090

First one is 99, you might want to brush up on numbers if you haven't already to grasp how it works.

I would need more context on the second one to be able to help you.

CAN'T

Also you niggas should try to get a job for (((Netflix)))

https://jobs.netflix.com/jobs/865955

>>14659129

Absolutely perfect

>>14659099

Don't do it anon, porn and other low effort/high reward activities sap your will to put some time into something that takes a while to benefit you. It destroys your ability to delay gratification.

>>14659131

>>14659136

That's fucked up.

>>14659146

Who's this slut?

>>14659152

twinkle star sprite

>>14659152

Mark

大丈夫だよ

あなたは日本語が習うのが出来るだよ

頑張ってよ

あきらめないよ

>>14659432

He doesn't say あきらめないよ

He says あきらめんなよ　a slurred version of あきらめるなよ

>>14659443

Ok.

>>14659026

>>14659045

>>14659068

Okinawan is a distinct language; in fact most 方言 are. The Japanese government is notorious for classifying other languages as dialects because it makes it easier to justify suppressing them. This goes up to and including the Ainu languages, which have absolutely no common ancestor with Japonic languages.

>>14659090

>>14659136

It's probably just weird as fuck 当て字 like how いるか is 海豚 because fuck you.

Luckily these are very much the exception rather than the rule. I know I always get tripped up with 素直 because I want to pronounce it as そちょく instead of すなお.

Kanji readings are very much like English spelling. After you know enough words you can predict how a new word is read; but sometimes you're wrong because fuck you. Hence a lot of english speakers see "hyperbole" and read it as "hyper-bowl" because convention dictates it should read that way.

>>14659761

Don't think so. That was drawn by an anon from this thread.

>>14660334

>もも肉大好き

エッチ！

>>14660334

wait… was that much food only 166 yen? If so, that's amazing

And so, I've hit the wall before I (re)started. In terms of priority…

kanji>vocabulary or vocabulary>kanji?

>>14661486

vocabulary > kanji, then anki deck (or whatever flashcard system you use) for vocab should be in kanji, so you should be picking them up passively while you learn vocab. Learning the meanings for all 2000 kanji isn't important, being able to read words that use them is.

>>14659432

>Almost struggled with the Ganbatte

>Had a quick flashback of how my exgf used to send me ganbatte daily

>Understand all that fairly quickly

I will do it, anon. My life might suck and it could be a total disaster, but I will learn japanese.

>>14659139

>Implying my motivation isn't porn on itself

I'll be translating a lot of hentai doujins and mangas.

>>14659026

From what I took a quick look at, it just changes a bit of everything but it generally holds the basic japanese structure for words. Fuck that shit, Okinawans are still pretty cute.

>>14660334

>原料の一部に小麦、大豆、鶏肉を含む

>大豆

>soy

Soyboy confirmed.

>>14660095

I've never ever heard of Ainu being considered 方言. Got any source to back that up?

>>14662403

Yeah, the words are often derived from Japanese in a predictable fashion also.

For example:

あげる

アギユン

とる

トゥイン

うる

ウイン

かつ

かちゅん

踊る

ヲゥドゥユン

Japanese /e/ > Okinawan /i/

Japanese /o/ > Okinawan /u/

Japanese /ru/ > Okinawan /in/ /yun/

>>14660794

What game?

>>14661486

You need both eventually anyway.

>>14662286

>>14662495

I'm resuming from an attempt years ago. Basically rediscovering what I did before and whether or not it was the right way. I made my own kanji and vocabulary decks from this and that VN but that's all I remember. Might be best if I start fresh. Learn new (old?) words and pluck the kanji from those. End goal is to read manga and VNs anyway. I have an ITH+TA setup for VNs but is Kanjitomo still the gold standard for reading off of images?

>>14662953

to me the "Old man from an RPG picking a fight" speech has very slightly rolled R's and uses やろう and やがる a lot. I'm sure the dialect isn't that silly in real life though. I hope I can make it to Japan some day, would be really cool to actually learn to speak the language and buy up all those cheap retro games.

>>14662981

I meant it in the sense that there's a lot of じゃ instead of だ, and slurring of ～あい sounds to ～えー. To the point where some people even say くだせー instead of ください.

じゃけーこのぐらい喋っとんじゃ

例えば、

>「オエー！何しょん？！今日めちゃさびーけー！」

<「え？！寒くねー！」

Which in 標準語 would be something like

>「オイー！何してるの？今日とても寒いから！」

<「え？！寒くないよ！」

I believe the reason is that 岡山弁 is a rather "old" dialect that keeps around a lot of speech patterns from samurai-era Japan. Hence old people in RPGs sound like they're from 岡山.

Is there a good thing for testing full hiragana words or sentences?

Just testing the individual kana like with realkana has gotten too simple, so I want to try something harder.

I havent learned katakana yet though, so it has to just be hiragana words.

>>14663121

I had figured it was more mild, I've seen the じゃ's and えー's in quite a few RPGs. Dialects fascinate me, it's easy for me to understand what じゃ instead of だ is and same for most of the other simple slurs/phonetic shortcuts but hearing 何しょん would probably throw me off quite a bit.

>>14663143

Just try reading the text in this thread for practice.

>>14662953

死んだ方 not 死ぬの方

>>14663747

Cheers. Grammar is always my big weak point. My vocab is ~N2, kanji ~N1, but my grammar is like N3 at best. Even then it's not the best.

>>14658727

By the way, are there any good mobile or phone apps/ways to learn so I can get some study in while I'm wagefagging?

>>14663999

I use anki on my PC and my phone. That way I can get daily study in while I'm on the bus/train/etc…

>>14664047

Thanks, anon. This thread is a bit much of an info dump for me.

>>14663931

Nobody can tell you how much to study, since that depends on the person. I will tell you to start small though, so you don't burn out.

>>14664217

>>14664314

I taught myself Runic too, so I'm not worried about the symbol or writing aspect of it. Although I can't read Runic off the spot or all that fast.

>>14663931

>Memorization is a big worry to me as some of the symbols look incredibly similar.

What finally helped me overcome that was splitting effort between a vocab deck and a kanji deck that teaches you the radicals along the way. Knowing radicals allows you to create mnemonics for vocab words which look similar, so you have a better way to remember which is which than abstract descriptions of lines, like "This one is more straight, and this one does kind of a swoosh thing." IE, 持 vs. 待

>How often should I study per day? I'm worried I'll crash and burn like the other times I've tried learning a foreign language.

Start with once daily, for simplicity's sake. The amount you do per day is going to depend on you. Because you'll be doing it daily, it needs to be an amount that's manageable for your daily schedule and your capacity to learn. You should intentionally underestimate yourself and the amount of time you have when you start. It's always better to start with much less than you can handle and work upwards, rather than burning yourself out early on, and giving up. I started out only doing 10-20 minutes at first. As you increase your workload, you may need to break it into multiple sessions per day, as your schedule allows. I used to cut mine in half, and do each half on the commutes to and from work. Don't get complacent with the amount you're doing, but if you feel like you're starting to burn out, reduce your workload. Doing less is better than burning out and doing nothing.

>>14663999

I'm assuming you're on Android. AnkiDroid is the main way I do my reps. It's pretty good overall. Just don't let it get interrupted while adding decks, or it might cause database corruption. There's also a Jisho app, and a Tae Kim app, which is basically just a mirror of the site. There are apps that let you draw kanji to look them up, but I've had very limited success with them. Don't bother with Duolingo, it's a waste of time.

If you haven't yet, you also might want to install the Japanese keyboard. Sometimes, the speech-to-text voice recognition helps me find a word that I can't quite make out. In my experience, enabling voice recognition for Japanese and English simultaneously has given poor results, since it will usually try to shoehorn your Japanese inputs into matching something in English. Instead, leave the voice recognition settings as the defaults, and switch between your Japanese and English keyboards as you need their respective recognitions.

>>14664386

I tried Duolingo and I was immediately confused when it tried introducing me to words or phrases without having learned all the symbols yet. I can't say whether or not it's harmless or if it'll fuck up your learning, but I'm not pleased with it either. It's structured in a way that's like a fucking candy machine constantly giving you praise, and I can see why it'd be easy to burn out from it. You need to feel like you're shit in order to constantly improve.

I've accepted the fact it's going to take a long ass time and for now I'm just gathering resources and learning the absolute basics. I only second guess myself when I figure I could be putting in more effort in other areas of my life or learning a different language. I wonder what makes me different from weebs and other faggots who obsess over learning Japanese. I've only been at for 3 days, but I'm worried nonetheless. Anglo-Saxon Runic only took me a week to learn, but it also matched almost every letter in English. I struggle with motivation, so I'm hoping this won't be another passion project situation.

>>14664543

The first thing you should learn is hiragana/katakana. Don't even bother with anything else yet.

You can grind them here https://realkana.com/ or download an Anki deck and do it that way.

>>14664543

Also motivation is hard in the beginning, but once you get past the first hurdle and start to be able to read, your progress and motivation will shoot up exponentially.

>>14664564

I'm aware of that, and it's also why I dropped Duolingo although I only used it because I needed something for my phone at work. I don't know if attempting to learn both Hiragana and Katakana side by side would be beneficial or not, but so far I'm only focusing on Hiragana.

Also I think Real Kana is glitched on my computer. Do I need to turn off adblock or something?

>>14664568

I've experienced that. Being able to read Runic although slowly was enormous amounts of fun. Especially finding how it was used in Lord of the Rings. Although it's a shame people see it as LARP faggotry and I tried to learn Old English after that. But there's barely any resources and it seems exclusive to select university faggotry.

>>14664585

>I don't know if attempting to learn both Hiragana and Katakana side by side would be beneficial or not, but so far I'm only focusing on Hiragana.

They are both the same sounds, just written differently; think capital and lower case letters. You need to learn them both eventually, but hiragana is a higher priority.

>Also I think Real Kana is glitched on my computer. Do I need to turn off adblock or something?

Works for me. Do you still use Adblock Plus? I'm on uBlock Origin.

>>14664595

Also uBlock Origin, but I'm using Palemoon.

Is there something I need to do before I click on "Study?"

And I'm not too worried about Katakana since it seems simpler and more distinct. I just wanted to know if I needed to learn them side by side.

>>14664613

I do that and click study. I hit "next" too but nothing seems to work now. Am I retarded?

>>14664618

>>14664613

Wait a second… This site needs cookies doesn't it? I have them turned off… Fuck… okay. I am retarded.

>>14664674

Thanks, anon. I'll screencap this post to help me whenever I need it. Hopefully I'll succeed this time unlike my other attempts at other languages.

From /animu/'s thread

Ignore the advertisement. The videos are good enough on their own.

>>14665856

That's 2 hours of your time and you're ready to start practicing kana.

>>14665864

After that, my advice would be to go to Tae Kim's guide to japanese, as that channel's videos unfortunately are not well organized when it comes to grammar.

One thing they get right when talking about kanji though: Learn the radicals.

Even if you're memorising some kanji as you practice grammar, take your time to learn radicals.

みんなさん 今日は

Last thread anon linked to a Japanese radio station. If you don't want to keep the shitty web page open, then here's what you can do:

1. Download streamlink https://github.com/streamlink/streamlink (there are windows binaries, follow the god damn instructions)

2. When you successfully install this shit, there will be a file called 'streamlinkrc' located in your appdata folder (C:\Users\[your_name]\AppData\Roaming\streamlink). You open this shit up in notepad and you can configure streamlink to use your media player of choice. Read the fucking documentation.

3. When you want to connect to the radio station, you open up command prompt, type in "streamlink" then followed by the stream's address. Here is the link to the radio station: musicbird-hls.leanstream.co/musicbird/JCB017.stream/playlist.m3u8

4. Streamlink will find a plugin that can handle the stream, then it will ask you to choose a quality option for the stream. This particular stream is available at 65k. If you already know the stream's options, then you can skip this part by just typing "Streamkink [your_stream's_link] [bitrate] (i.e. to connect to this stream, your prompt should look like this: "Streamlink http://musicbird-hls.leanstream.co/musicbird/JCB017.stream/playlist.m3u8 65k")

5. Incidentally, you can use this to connect to other open streams, like shit on YouTube or Twitch or whatever.

Figured I'd tell you about it, I guess.

>>14665868

Is there an Anki deck for radicals?

>learning japanese

lmao nigga just read the subtitles

>>14666000

>being retarded

lmao nigga just kill yourself

>>14665962

Not really.

I got an app, Kanji Study (android). For the free version you can search any kanji, it's meaning, pronunciation, radicals, compound kanji that use it and their meanings. You can also use it as a review deck, but then the kanji are grouped in levels of difficulty according to japanese school standards, and the free version only allows that option for "fundamental" level. So while it's not very good for a daily anki deck substitute, I've been using it by checking kanji on it while reading on my phone.

>>14665202

>If you're worried about people viewing it in a negative light, just don't tell anyone about it.

I didn't plan on it, it's just that I tend to focus a lot of people's expectations or opinions onto myself. I tend to be my biggest critic. Although it was fun watching Lord of the Rings with my family and whenever scenes popped up that had Dwarven script or runic, I'd point it out or say something like "That's what English used to be."

>As for some other questions, you need to learn both hiragana and katakana with near 100% consistency before you move on to other stuff.

I figured that. I'm focusing on vowels and trying to be able to read them fast enough to say basic words like ai or aoi without having to deconstruct it. Basically, making those symbols synonymous with the sounds.

>>14664622

install Waterfox or something alongside it

I use a locked-down Pale Moon as well, it works for most things I need it to do but there's plenty of stuff out there that it breaks, so I'll just switch to Waterfox for stuff like youtube videos or whatever

>>14666659

>Kanji Study

I had it too, but I tried to broke it for premium using Lucky Patcher, and even though it works, the app checks itself periodically so it has some problems in the long run. I deleted it to install Tinderwithout any luck so far. I also used it to check kanji while studying 2k/6k, but it's a real fucking inconvenient to change apps on my phone.

I wish there was some app compatible with Anki so you can check the meaning of kanji instantly. Jisho app a shit.

>>14666826

Personally, I started Anki when I had a good grasp on Hiragana, not perfect but good, and barely knew Katakana. As you go on the deck, Kana practice comes natural since you both read and hear the words and the examples.

>>14665962

The KanjiDamage and KanjiDamage Reordered decks include radicals. They also include things that aren't really radicals but are treated as radicals for simplicity, which I'm not sure how I feel about.

At least riddle me this. Do I absolutely need to know about (almost all of) the radicals in order to create effective mnemonics for the kanji? I figured that…

悩=worry; trouble=trouble raining down on a worrywart slouch

…is a good start.

>>14672891

Most radicals are just kanji themselves, so you will learn them anyway.

>>14672891

Knowing the meanings of the radicals won't help you that much, it can be mildly useful but being able to easily break them up into recognizable bits visually is the big benefit or learning the radicals.

Trying to get Sakura Taisen PC to run for some practice. It seems to have some issues with launching on anything past Windows XP. I've tried going through some jp guides to fix it but I haven't had any luck with them so far. Has anyone else he played it that knows how to get it running?

Are there any good games to play alongside learning Japanese that help you learn or understand new words?

>>14673935

any game can help as long as you have enough of a foundation to understand it on some level. Even games that are far above your level can be beneficial because they can teach you new terms. With that said, I've always felt that dragon quest is a good starting point for people that don't know much japanese yet. The text is fairly simple and uses basic words, and in most of the games there is furigana which can help if you don't know many kanji.

>>14673959

What about to someone who only knows Hiragana and Katakana and isn't too familiar with some of words outside of anime weeb terms like Nani?

>>14674052

1. furigana will help

2. make a list of words you don't know

3. look them up in the dictionary

4. when you have all the pieces, try and put them together and see if you can make sense of what is being said.

5. repeat ad nauseam

>>14674058

Thanks for the tips. Which Dragon Quest should I start with? And how would you recommend getting better at reading so that Hiragana and Katakana become natural? Sometimes I sit and look at characters for a while and say them aloud and slowly piece them together to remember what they mean. Will that come naturally over time or is that a way to aid with it?

>>14674067

>which dragon quest should I start with?

That I don't know, I haven't played any of the games myself. I'm not the same anon you were speaking with before, so maybe someone else can point you in the right direction.

>And how would you recommend getting better at reading so that Hiragana and Katakana become natural?

Well, I can only speak for myself. I used spaced repetition (basically what Anki is) when I first started out. I did it daily for a couple of months. Even so, I was still having trouble recognizing some of the letters. I started to get over it when I started writing my Anki words in a notebook. Every day, when I do Anki, I write every new word down in a notebook and then write out the English equivalent word right next to it. My deck has 6,000 words in it, and since you tend to get good at recognition simply by exposing yourself to the as much as possible, I eventually got to a point where I can easily recognize all of the Kana plus a good chunk of Kanji.

>Sometimes I sit and look at characters for a while and say them aloud and slowly piece them together to remember what they mean.

This is good. As long as you're interested in doing this, you're golden. Repetition is the key, but it has to be "mindful" repetition. You can't think of it as a chore, you have to be willing to engage with the material, cause if you don't, then you're more likely to either give up or forget things.

>>14674078

>I'm not the same anon you were speaking with before

Just goes to show you how often I actually pay attention to IDs, I should get that tunnel vision checked out if it'll stunt my learning. Either way, this thread has been good motivation.

I bought a notebook recently specifically for learning Japanese and it never occurred to me to write down words I didn't know and look them up later. I've been using it to practice writing. I keep the first page filled with the 50 sounds or whatnot I copied. Then I flip over to another page and try to write rows at time from memory. Then I flip back to see how close I was, compare, and repeat. I taught myself Runic this way. Certain characters still get me fucked up. Like Nu and Me, Ki and Sa. Makes me wonder why similar looking characters aren't used to represent one row or sound type. Like keeping the same basic structure for all characters that start with a "K" or end with a "O" sound.

And what I mean by I sit and look at characters is that sometimes I'll go to Japanese sites or just look at random words in Japanese and sit there deconstructing all the characters in there trying to remember them and the say the word fully even though I'll have no idea what it means.

Sorry for long post

>>14674099

>I keep the first page filled with the 50 sounds or whatnot I copied. Then I flip over to another page and try to write rows at time from memory. Then I flip back to see how close I was, compare, and repeat.

Sounds like good practice.

>Certain characters still get me fucked up. Like Nu and Me, Ki and Sa

ぬ has the little squiggly tail at the end, め does not. き has an extra line in it, さ only has one. れ curls outward, ね curls inward, and わ doesn't curl at all. You just have to find a way to mentally distinguish between them.

頑張ってね～　一生懸命勉強でしょ

>>14674144

Nu and Me have gotten a bit easier than the first time. For some reason I always say "Inu" or dog out loud to myself when I see it and imagine the squiggly tail as a dog's tail. And for "Me", it's easy to me it as an "M" shape. It also looks like a pretzel. Ki I rationalize that it has a higher pitch than Sa and for some reason I see the extra line as a way of signifying it's tone is higher. Going into it I didn't think I would come up with little weird ways of remembering things. I thought I would memorize it the same way I did runic. I can only imagine the weird shit I'll come up with when I get to Kanji.

>>14674067

I say this a lot, but if you're just starting out with reading, you should play a VN. They often have voice acting, which will expose you to listening while you read, and since there's nothing to the games other than lots of text they're perfect for practicing Japanese. A guy in the last thread had started hanahira, which is a very short and simple one, but you probably still won't be able to understand any of it without learning a little bit about grammar.

>>14675084

I think RPGs are better. You see the same terms often (for stats, items, skills, etc.), the dialog is simpler, and they are more fun so you feel less like you are studying.

>>14672891

I have never bothered with learning radicals specifically and I can remember Kanji just fine. But then again, i don´t bother with handwriting out of memory either. If i´m able to read and write on the computer that´s good enough for me.

>>14674099

>Makes me wonder why similar looking characters aren't used to represent one row or sound type. Like keeping the same basic structure for all characters that start with a "K" or end with a "O" sound.

Kana are derived from kanji which at one point were used to represent phonetic Japanese. Obviously very inconvenient to write a kanji every time for what would now be a single kana these days so that's how it came about. I do know that さ came from 左 and き from 機. Imagine writing 機 every time you wanted to write き.

Reading is one of the best things for learning but I would suggest taking a little bit of time to learn some basic grammar and pick up a little bit of vocabulary before trying to do much reading beyond for simple kana practice. Don't put it off for a year + like some people do, but take a month or so to prepare before diving in, otherwise you're likely to have a difficult time even parsing where some words start or end. I have a feeling you may have been looking more for a typing game or educational sort like that just to pick up some vocabulary, for which I have no recommendations.

My first go around had me reading with a texthooker attached along with Translation Aggregator (with the Google window removed, of course) to catch any new words. Does that count as reading or am I expected to just look at it straight up?

>>14677007

If I'm not mistaken, Translation Aggregator is that tool that automatically translates the sentences, right? That probably won't do you any good for learning, you should be looking up any unknown words manually and if you want, writing them down/making a custom anki deck of them.

>>14677051

Write down whole words? Have my hands full writing kanji. Gonna need a lot more notebooks. Also, TA translates nothing provided that I close the Google window. And every other window except for JParser and Mecab. Alternatively, I could just use ITH, which strictly copies all text from a VN to the clipboard.

I also have a custom vocabulary deck but kanji, not so much. Using a premade one, writing down the ones I have trouble memorizing.

>>14675663

goddam I want to punch that thing.

>>14677239

Fair enough, I haven't actually used it myself. What does TA actually do in that setup, I just use ITH so that I can use the clipboard to copy words into jisho. Sounds like you're doing everything right, with the custom and premade decks as well.

>>14669545

I don't really like KanjiDamage. It tries to be funny but it's just cringy. But I do admit it's structure otherwise it's pretty nice for kanji and radical learning.

>>14677275

It can be pretty dumb, but I've never cringed hard enough to make me question whether or not I wanted to use it. It's worst offenders are mostly dad jokes, "your mom" jokes, and similar 90s humor/edge, which can always be replaced with your own mnemonics, if need be.

>>14677586

Basically just some nip praising Nintendo for fooling her daughter into feeling a sense of accomplishment, even though all she did was assemble a cardboard box.

>>14677664

>all she did was

What exactly is wrong with a child being happy about completing babby's first arts and crafts project, and why do you think it counts as "fooling" them? Are children who assemble lego kits according to their instructions also being fooled?

Reading comprehension is coming along, slowly but surely. The real question is, how long until I can translate the game I'm developing into nip instead of paying some company to do it, who will pass it off to some rainbow-haired snowflake intern?

>>14683977

You won't ever be able to translate English -> Nip. Leave that to native speakers.

>>14658727

nice non video game diarrhea you just shat all over the floor

>>14684039

It's not a question of if you'll be able to do it, it's a question of if you'll be able to do it well.

>>14683987

>You won't ever be able to translate English -> Nip

Why?

>>14683977

Can't you do it yourself and then ask for nip proofreading?

Beats hiring (((western))) trans- I mean, localizers.

>>14684892

It would require a skill far above just playing Japanese games. Unless anon actually lives in Japan to practice his speaking for a number of years, he's just going to make a Engrish-tier translation.

>>14685157

Just because something requires a high skill doesn´t mean it´s impossible, though.

Writing down kanji is one thing, but what about radicals?

>>14685705

Nah, don't do it. As long as you can recognize each radical, you're fine. You only study radicals to help you better recognize Kanji.

>>14685705

radicals aren't that important, I wouldn't bother. Radicals are a supplement to assist with memorizing a fuck ton of kanji, and nothing more.

I've been doing ok with the Anki 2k so far but I'm running into a wall

It's throwing:

下りる

下ろす

下り

下がる

下る

At me all at once and I can't keep this shit straight in my head. Is this a good time to start learning grammar? Will grammar even help in this case?

>>14687431

Anytime is a good time to start learning grammar. Seeing these verbs used in sentences, like the ones on the anki cards, will help you understand them better. And you need to know at least a little grammar to understand the sentences.

>>14687431

Reading will help contextualize them and you will eventually learn the differences in the words and how they are used, grammar will help you to understand why the varities exist, and enable you to understand what you're reading in general.

>>14687431

If you don't know how to use the word, you don't know the word. You're doing it wrong. You should have examples showing the actual usage with context. Multiple examples, in the case of words with overloaded meanings, to illustrate every sense of the word.

>>14687431

Yes it is, considering it's throwing transitive and intransitive verb forms at you. Tae Kim would have the details.

>>14687629

Brush up once a week.

>>14688073

>When should I start learning Katakana?

Now. You should be learning it now, alongside Hiragana.

>>14688073

Hiragana and katakana are the first things you should learn. They are distinct enough that you shouldn't get them confused. Katakana will be harder because of シ、ツ、ン、ソ、and ノ

>>14688073

You should be learning katakana at roughly the same time (I started as soon as I had gotten a decent grip on hiragana). You can't read without knowing katakana. It's going to be a significant amount of time before you can understand even the simplest media, and even longer before you can understand it well/comfortably.

>>14688081

>>14688086

>>14688089

I was told I was fine not starting Katakana until a week or so after I started learning Japanese. I'm worried about rushing considering my other attempts at long-term hobbies or learning other languages. Am I fine taking my time with it or should I situate myself earlier?

>>14688114

>Am I fine taking my time

Of course

>>14688114

You can go at whatever pace you like, and slower is better, since no matter how fast you go it's going to take a long time, but if you try to rush you'll burn yourself out. There's no legitimate reason to wait a week to learn katakana other than if it's what you want to do in terms of pace.

>>14687786

But what's the next step? If I start by learning vocab I won't be able to form sentences, but if I go grammar I won't know the words to use. I'm worried that I'll get overwhelmed if I try both at once, but I don't know.

>>14688132

You'll learn to combine them over time, take it like Elementary School learning. I would recommend grammar first that way you don't get into the habit of placing verbs with the English grammar you're familiar with and when you do learn verbs, you'll associate them with that type of grammar automatically because you already know how the phrase is structured and you'll be filling in blanks rather than rearranging the words you do know. Granted, I'm not far enough into Japanese to know if it works specifically with Japanese, but it's what I learned and what helped me when I was trying to learn German.

>>14688132

get an anki vocab deck, and read a page or two of tae kim a day. Check back on the ones you've already read as references. Once you've made it through the first section of tae kim, you can try reading some simple stuff like children's books, which will tell you if you've been retaining the grammar. Because of the nature of the language you're not going to gain much from trying to form sentences right off the bat, until you've become comfortable with the language and gained some proficiency with reading.

Is firing up a VN or whatever right away really such a good idea? What does someone with very little to no grammar knowledge have to gain besides mining a lot of words?

>>14688261

You have to read to gain grammar knowledge.

>>14688261

learn grammar first

Tae Kim's guide imo is the most concise one. You can read all of his grammar material in 2-3 days, then jump in those LN to hone it.

>>14688271

I have Genki but Tae Kim seems like a lighter primer. I'll just keep mining until the scene ends. No LNs come to mind but I guess I'll look for some in due time. It's just that I have a gigantic stash of VNs I hope to read someday.

By the way, anyone here tried Duolingo?

>>14688375

>Duolingo

Yeah. It's shit.

>>14688572

Keep it up. Don't give up.

>>14688086

>>14688131

>Katakana will be harder because of シ、ツ、ン、ソ、and ノ

Those can be remembered at first by the number of marks they have at the top left.

>The ones with one mark, ソ (So) and ン (N) can be remembered by which one's lines are more vertical or horizontal. To say N, your mouth has to take a more horizontal shape, and to say So, your mouth has to take a more vertical shape.

>For the ones with two marks シ (Shi) and ツ (Tsu), mentally draw a single line that connects the ends of the marks on one side. If you can make a rough C shape out of them, it's the one that rhymes with C. If you can make a rough U out of them, it's the one that rhymes with U.

>The one with no marks, ノ (No) has No marks. It's also the center of its hiragana counterpart, の.

It won't be long until you don't even have to think about it, though.

>>14690227

Aaaaaaaaaaand the grammar is well beyond me. Never mind the vocabulary.

>>14690247

when you start off reading, you're going to want to stick to things like news and children's books that aren't full of slang and casual speech, you'll be able to understand those with practice. This isn't a game specifically made for young kids either, this is just a normal JRPG, so it's pretty fair to expect that if you're a beginner you won't get it.

>>14690308

Yeah, it's the latest one. Much better than the previous installment, which was too open and didn't have enough to do.

Japs seem really good at making corny plots, even when they're total garbage I still find myself being amused. You're also on the right track with not looking up everything, try to learn new words but don't overdo it. Additionally, this helps for learning how to determine meaning through context.

>>14690286

I take it the OP has said children's books? I'm focusing a little on kanji so the overdose of hiragana might throw me off, silly as that sounds.

>>14690335

I'm mostly focusing on the words that keep repeating or if I think a certain phrase has central meaning in a sentence.

I have to absolutely agree with you on the stories. Somehow it all ends up leaving you with some sense of satisfaction at the end even if it wasn't too good.

>>14662721

That looks very promising.

I already read F/SN, so I'd at least be familiar with all the basic terms.

>>14690491

I don't believe it's in the OP, but if you google "japanese children's stories" you'll find this

http://life.ou.edu/stories/

these were some of the first things I read, he breaks them up and provides a translation so you can check if you read right. They're mostly in kana though, but it's a good first foray into reading. I also have about 11 pdf scans of actual japanese children's books and some scans in png form of 3 different levels of school readers (each level has 5 or so books), they range from preschool/kindergarten level to maybe mid elementary school.

https://mega.nz/#F!UexWwLLZ!AbtT0qJTpdByNgsUDpQihA

Here's a download to all the stuff I mentioned, if the anon who makes these threads wants to put it in the OP, go ahead. It's worth noting that some of these are mythical type stuff, which can make them a little confusing. There are some that are just straight up stories about people doing everyday stuff though.

>>14690531

I too mainly focus on words that keep popping up, and it's worked so far for me.

>>14690588

Thank you! Still, with so much kanji and words out there, will we ever be free from having to use the machines? Still trudging along with kanji and I really do think there's too many for any one person to remember by heart.

>>14690531

If you can read F/SN you shouldn't have any trouble with the Extra games. Stay Night is far ore challenging

>>14690709

Just like with anything else, remembering kanji is a skill in and of itself, it'll come easier the more you do it. I can't say how long it would take to learn enough words to almost never have to use a dictionary, but I can say that there will be a point where I won't need one. Other than that, I don't really use any other tools to assist with understanding Japanese, except for a text hooker on the occasions the luxury is available.

>>14691169

No, I read it in English.

I tried Japanese at first, but after spending 6 hours on the prologue and not finishing it, I gave up.

Good thing I did too, because it took me a month to read it in English.

I can actually understand the text in those Extra pictures, so I'd like to assume that all of it is a bit easier to read.

Got the first Dragon Quest for my 3DS. Its the Japanese phone version. I know that what you name your character matters in this game. So, with that said I'm not sure how the naming system works in Japanese, can anyone here help?

In lessen 2 of Genki volume 1. How far in until the kana overdose stops and makes way for kanji?

>>14692551

You could always use material that has kanji from the start, and go back to Genki later if you want. A lot of shit is mainly or always written in kana too though, so it's still important to be able to read kana heavy sentences comfortably.

>>14692551

if you want kanji, read something that has kanji, like NHK easy news. Genki is made to be taught by a professor in a classroom/lecture setting, and worked alongside a full load of other college classes. It's not bad for learning grammar but it's not at all optimized for self-study.

>>14692104

What exactly is the problem?

>>14692551

Genki is pretty bad about that. Tae Kim is better.

>>14690709

I can say with certainty the answer is never. But it will become infrequent enough that it's only a few words here and there.

>>14692654

>You could always use material that has kanji from the start

DOBJ and its derivatives come to mind. At least there's a version of Genki in the resources guide that nixes most of the distracting romanji. Still, I seem to be doing a little too well in the first two chapters. Might need to skip a few lessons.

>>14692682

I can tell. Exercises everywhere and I can only do a few on my own. Also, just found NHK easy news. I'm by no means confident enough to tackle anything even close to intermediate (let alone the screencaps here) but does that section exist for very young kids?

Also, link since it's not in the OP (from what I can see): https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/

>>14692729

No kanji huh? Tae Kim it is, assuming using two grammar guides doesn't screw me over somehow.

>>14692806

yeah, NHK easy is for kids, but it's useful as hell for beginner due to the shot article length, furigana, and the amount of new material that goes up there. Using two grammar guides won't screw you, you might get some recaps, but tae kim explains things differently than Genki, and more importantly, will explain a lot of the more common slang, which is crucial to know if you plan on consuming any media that's not completely dry like news reports.

>>14692829

Already bookmarked. Also, kanji IS accounted for in Genki. On the third lesson and I almost perfectly read the intro before scrolling down to the translation.

>>14692729

Sorry about >>14692806. Thought you were someone else. Still, the less I have to rely on Google and such as the month and years (God willing) go on, the better. Small goals at a time seem to be the name of the game instead of inflated deadlines. Mine is to make sense of the very first scene of a VN mostly on my own.

>>14692852

Yeah, the problem is, you're always gonna see 常用外漢字 sprinkled in here and there unless you're reading something for babbies. Only government stuff and newspapers are forced to stick strictly to 常用漢字 as far as I know, and you'll see asshole shit in VNs and games like writing わらう as 嗤う. Since not all kanji is taught at school (and it probably wouldn't even be practical to even attempt it), even Jap natives must have to look up 漢字 every now and then too especially without higher education.

>>14693439

this.

Having a goal of being able to read completely unassisted seems like a good long-term bar to reach, but eventually you'll realize that it's kind of silly, especially for VNs, they like to throw all sorts of obscure words and writings around just for fun.

>>14693597

>Having a goal of being able to read completely unassisted … it's kind of silly

Why? The problem you two are describing isn't really any different from English, is it? You wouldn't say that someone can't read English completely unassisted because they occasionally encounter and have to look up an unusual word because someone else was being a pretentious, overly verbose thesaurus-monkey. You'd just say that they had to look up an uncommon word.

>>14693901

I'm not saying he can't do it, but it's not an effective way to judge "I've learned Japanese to _ level"

>>14693924

>「インフィニティ・ワリオ」にサノスはスパイダーマンとサトシを中出し。

Does he really? I thought they had been waiting to add Spidey to Avengers for forever, but couldn't because of movie rights bullshit. Also, what's the point of warning the Japanese about it?

>>14693967

Yeah, that's a fair point.

>>14694019

>Does he really?

Yes. Forbes saved America by releasing a spoiler-filled review that tells literally everything that happens in the movie.

>I thought they had been waiting to add Spidey to Avengers for forever, but couldn't because of movie rights bullshit.

They negotiated a deal with Sony for Homecoming onward and Captain America 3: Civil War (actually just an Avengers movie by another name) onward in the MCU. Basically Sony makes Spider-man movies with some support from Marvel and in exchange any time Marvel wants to use Spider-man stuff in the MCU they can.

>Also, what's the point of warning the Japanese about it?

Spoiling people is fun. If we had chinkaboos I'd ask them too, but helping the honorarians is also worthwhile.

>>14694019

Also, domo arigato Mr. Anon-san.

I feel like I'm not making much progress with the "recall" section of the "2136 Joyo Kanji by grade" deck. Getting straight up meanings instead of the kanji itself first and foremost is slowing me down. Would it be wise to delete the recall cards?

>>14695711

You can just suspend instead of delete.

>>14698312

>if it's translation is almost 1:1 or not censored

This doesn't exist it is why we are in this thread.

>>14698328

I'm aware that no complete faithful translations exist. But for games where items or names are largely the same, it's very helpful. And as I said, it's best to use a dictionary alongside it to confirm. If it was translated differently, it's still interesting to see what changed and what stayed the same. I'm not using this as a legitimate study or practice method, it's more or less for fun.

>>14698359

I started learning it late last night and continuing into today. Video games also help with learning it, as I found Hiragana was easier to learn by reading what I did know.

My revelation was also just discovered like 10 minutes ago.

>>14698312

>playing a game you're extremely familiar with

I have recommended this before. My first Japanese game was one that I had beaten like 5+ times before in English.

>>14698339

>I'm not using this as a legitimate study or practice method

It is definitely a legitimate practice method, but maybe not so early on.

>>14698489

>>14698312

>>14698339

Really? I thought playing Japanese versions of games you played to death would be a detriment since you'd know what's being said from the English version. Unless the exercise is to spot how grammar works in the Japanese version. If so, do the SNES Final Fantasy games have a reasonable amount of kanji? Or furigana for that matter?

>>14699165

>since you'd know what's being said

That's the point. Knowing the context makes it easier to navigate for a beginner, but you also learn at the same time.

>Did a little grammar at the start.

>Got frustrated and stopped for a while, but been doing vocab and kanji daily for 8 months.

>Lately realizing that I know most or all of the words in many sentences, but not what they say.

I guess this is the point where putting it off any longer is to directly deprive myself the ability to read in the present, not just at some ambiguous point in the future. Here goes.

>>14699963

>I know most or all of the words in many sentences, but not what they say

You should be ready to start reading then.

>>14698312

I've been doing this for ages but there's a few issues here see.

For one if I don't know a kanji i'll have to look it up and that includes guessing the stroke order since im pretty sure that's what jisho looks for when you draw kanji.

If it's a game for something like the gba then even katakana can be hard to read because of how compressed they are.

just like >>14698328 said, 1:1 translation never happens.

>>14700896

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%B5%E3%83%8E%E3%82%B9

Yo fags, I could use some help from you.

I want to send an email to Falcom about the shitty Ys VIII port but I don't want to machine translate my email. If someone could translate this to look decent and be usable, I'd appreciate it.

:

Subject: Ys VIII localization by NISA

Hello Nihon Falcom Corporation (or to whomever it may concern)

I am a western consumer and fan of Falcom products. While I am a newer customer, I love the games that your company has made and I am very grateful and happy to have purchased and played games from you. I especially have had fun with the Trails in the Sky (Sora No Kiseki) games, and the Ys games Oath in Felghana and Ys Origins.

While I love Falcom games and would like to continue to support your company in the future, the recent release and localization of Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana by NIS America have not been up to my high standards, as a consumer of Falcom games. There are many performance errors, bugs and crashes that affect my enjoyment of fthe game, and I would like the quality of the releases to be as stellar as your previous releases. I apologize for the tone of this email, but I would just like to let you know that I would like to continue to support your games, please ensure that the localization and porting for future games is as strong as it usually is. I hope you will take my voice into consideration, and I appreciate your taking the time to read this email

Thank you,

>>14700990

when I was ordering some JP falcom products to America I had to do it via email, they understand english but the person who responded was clearly a jap. You should be fine sending that untranslated.

>>14701000

If you're sure. It would probably be a better gesture if I could send it in nipponese, but an email is an email, I guess.

I'm getting pretty good at the kana and only mess up one of more uncommonly seen ones pretty rarely. Should I start practicing writing kana immediately and master that before doing anything else or is it fine to practice it at an easier pace?

>>14701189

It depends on what you want. I didn't see myself having the need to write anytime in the near future, and I didn't have trouble learning kana, so I didn't take the time to learn writing. If you think you'll use it or think it'll help you remember them better, go for it. You don't need to know how to write before proceeding on to other areas of study, though.

>>14700990

>I apologize for the tone of this email, but I would just like to let you know that I would like to continue to support your games, please ensure that the localization and porting for future games is as strong as it usually is.

This is a run-on sentence. "Please" should be the start of a new sentence.

>>14700990

Just learn Japanese instead of trying to appeal to localizers. XSEED is nearly as shit as NISA.

>>14701720

CAN'T

>>14701363

Its a bad habit of mine

>>14701720

They're very competent at porting the games if nothing else. I don't really care who they get though, as long as its not NISA. Fan translations should be enough to abide me.

>just learn an entire language lmao

I won't rag on you fags for doing this since its a noble pursuit, but its not for me. I don't have that level of autism and would burn out quickly.

The amount of time invested could be spent playing vidya, though I guess new experiences could eventually be found if I learned nipponese and played vidya that never got translated or translated poorly.

>>14677586

nintendo did nothing wrong.

This will kill the smartphone botnet industry thereby fixing the shit society we have right now (although the soygoyim is just an unintended side effect of post-millenial/genX who grew up and got hooked with smartphones)

nintendo's marketing strat is meant to target the young (not the young at heart this time).

>>14702092

拓真はリアル女に話かけなかったら、2D女に話かけてたんだ？

>>14702156

いいえ、異世界の女子と話した。

しかし、今、拓真はゲームのプレイヤーと話していたを信じている。

私にとって、ちょっと恥ずかしいと思う。

この小説のタイプは初めて読んでいる。

ペンはとなりの部屋にあります

There is a pen in the next room.

can someone explain why this is correct? I thought the sentence structure objects location was:

(object)の(location)

for example: つくえの上 = on top of the desk

Why is the order switched? I'm confused because I was watching misas video on ある and いる verbs and I can't wrap my head around why the order is switched between の particle. This example is at 23:16 in the video.

It's not switched.

>机の上

The pen is on top. Top of what? The desk.

>隣の部屋

The pen is in the room. What room? The neighboring one.

>>14704034

Misa sensei has helped me through many a tough spot in my nip learning. I'd rec any of her vids.

>>14704040

家のとなりに学校があります

so how would this work in this situation?

I kind of get it on a surface level but it's still confusing to me.

>>14704050

The difference is the pen is in the room, while the school is next to the house.

>>14704055

as i understand it:　

となりの部屋 = the の particle is modifiying the room. What kind of room? The next room. that is why となり is put in front of it.

for other examples it would be like　家のとなり = next to something. となり is the one being modified. Next to the house. Is this correct?

>>14704070

Yeah. Just think of the noun before の giving you more context.

Also if you haven't started reading yet don't worry too much about grammar. It will come to you much more easily through practice than reading grammar guides.

>>14704072

okay I think I get it.

So sentences like

部屋のとなりにペンがあります = so this would be like saying the pen is next to the room? not actually INSIDE the next room.

>>14704089

Yeah I know but I get a little autistic when it comes to small details like this. Little shit like this boggles my mind.

>>14704093

>部屋のとなりにペンがあります = so this would be like saying the pen is next to the room? not actually INSIDE the next room.

You got it.

引きこもりさんいますか

今日はどう寝ていましたか

Taking N2 exam this July, just want to drop by and say you faggots can do it. Translation is about to fucking sink, let it die and get imports. Also language skill = more dosh/job.

>>14704093

>>14704138

Wait, shouldn't "next" (となり) be treated as a na-adjective attached to "room" (部屋)? And the room is the target of the verb "to exist" (ある) meaning it uses the particle に. Remember, when a location is the target of "exist" it denotes location of the thing you're talking about. Also the particle の only denotes explanatory sense if used as an end-of-sentence particle. If used in the middle of a sentence attached to a noun it becomes a connector, meaning "of". If used attached to a verb, adjective or adverb in teh middle of a sentense, it allows that thing to be treated as a noun. But we want it to mean you are explaining something so I think it should be:

ペンがとなりな部屋にありますの

pen (is the thing that)

next (adj)+room (target of verb)

to exist (masu-form for politeness)

"the thing is" (explanatory sense)

>>14705040

となり isn't a na-adjective.

>>14705071

lmao, the lyrics to this song

>誰でもいいギュッと感じて

>天国へ ナビゲーション

>わかってるバカな女

>あなた貢がせ上手

>諦めたリミットギリギリ

>間違ったマスターベーション

>>14705040

>>14705073

Wait, sorry, thought you wanted to say the pen was in the next room, even though you specified it there.

>となり isn't a na-adjective.

Yep, messed that too, I was trying to infer from context used. Still "to neighbor" should be written 隣り (となり) for it's root form?

Still, now I get why that sentence is that way, thanks

>>14705071

Anon you are my hero, I've been searching for it for ages.

Coud you also help me with this one? http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm964597

Two songs, second one begins after 4:26, it's again a video with garbage credits sauce.

>>14705281

believe it or not, there was actually a Japanese yahoo answers questions asking the same thing about that particular video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUyofqc_KHU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKNjpEngjhI

>>14705342

wew, second vid is private but now that I know song titles it wont be an issue anymore. Thanks a lot anon.

>>14659026

It's like Newfies in Leafland.

>>14706831

>Duolingo is shit

Oh wow, really?

pirate Genki from the OP and then supplement the grammar lessons with Tae Kim

>>14707953

Isn't that edition of Genki a little outdated? I have a physical copy and it has a few stuff the .pdf is missing.

>>14707894

The way Duolingo works is shit anyway.

It's a terrible attempt to use shitty science and "gamifying" studying into something "fun".

>>14690227

Is the game always around this difficulty or did you pick out a few easy lines?

>>14709163

the dialogue is fairly simple and all around that level of stuff, but the gameplay revolves around collecting items and crafting them, and there are a lot of words I've never seen before in the effects that you can add to items. You pretty much have to know what all of that stuff says, so not only is the dialogue easy but you'll definitely pick up quite a few words while you play the game.

>>14659026

>mfw I really did learn a little Okinawan from Azumanga over a decade ago and didn't realize it.

>mfw I have no face.

>>14709332

Can you change the text to Japanese in the US version?

>>14709608

yeah, I just bought it off steam, you can change the language in the launcher

>>14709649

Cool. That seems like it might be a comfy game to try learning with. Does it matter if I've never played its prequels?

>>14709704

The Atelier series is broken into trilogies, and Lydie and Suelle is the last of the 不思議 series, so the only relevant games are Sophie and Firis. I played Firis but not Sophie, a lot of characters from the previous game(s) pop up but the stories aren't important. Firis was comfy but wasn't great, but I'm really enjoying Lydie and Suelle so far, I'd recommend it, though you have to be willing to look a lot of stuff up to understand the crafting.

>have an easier time understanding spoken language than reading it

so this is how it feels to be illiterate

>>14709808

>XSEED's shitty ports never have Japanese voices for some reason

The generally understood reason is cost of licensing the original voices.

It seems like nobody wants to confirm or deny if that is the truth so I'm guessing it might not be and it's probably just a big hassle licensing and holds back the release more than XSEED is known for doing.

I'm not sure how it's possible that recording an entirely new dub is cheaper than that but I guess VAs in the US really do work for nothing. I somehow doubt this is true but who knows

>>14710626

They don't see the Japanese audio as a major selling point especially if it's only JPN audio. Businesses still think most people will not play a game or watch anything where they have to read subtitles. Even though anime has only gotten more popular as dubs have become less and less irrelevant. Also that Famitsu campaign for western feedback had a tons of people asking for Japanese voices.

>>14709768

I'm pretty sure most Switch games let you play the game fully in Japanese if you boot them with a Japanese account.

>>14710626

I think Tom said that they couldn't get Japanese voices no matter how hard they tried. That sounds like bullshit though, considering most other companies can.

>>14711418

Neat. That's definitely a selling point if it ever gets any games that interest me.

Did 8ch fuck up and reset everyone's ID again?

>>14658727

バンプ～

>>14717918

Sue is a bit of a dumbass huh?

>>14717937

per the opening cutscene

>姉のリディー

>身体を動かすのは苦手なものの、賢く優しい女の子

>そして妹のスール

>いたずら盛りでいつも明るい、とても元気な女の子

I can't get the timestamp to work in the embed but it's at 9:21

>>14717937

I think she just hates making any kind of mental effort. When the time comes that she's actually motivated she can do just as well as her sister.

>>14718483

You can get decks here

https://ankiweb.net/shared/decks/japanese

>>14719237

Since I'm missing just the vocab deck, do you have any recommendations?

>>14719369

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1237389412

I think this one is the most popular one. I used it for a while, though I didn't complete it. The words aren't in any particular order, so you will come across some pretty uncommon ones before a lot of words that you would expect to hear often, but all in all it has a very good set of words.

>>14723241

>ふたりで赤ちゃんを作るってことでしょ？

でも、赤ちゃんを欲しくないよ

>>14723317

日本語でおｋｗ

「欲しい」は他動詞なんかじゃないので、「を」は間違いだよ。「を」は名詞の対象格を表す格助詞なんだから、普通は他動詞と共に使う。

>>14726834

>おｋ

Why do they do this anyway?

>>14708239

will probably end up emulating but I don't want to completely give up on the PC port if there is hope. So far I can tell its an issue with how the game renders and opens its windows. If I ever manage to figure out a solution I'll make a post about it.

Can anyone point me where the books are at?

If possible a single mega pack with many books in one would do for me.

>>14729471

There's only to mega links. I'd like to swim in a pool of books. Like in a library.

>>14729475

sumanai if you're so modern.

>>14729540

add: I'd like to learn offline with my phone so I can bring my books anywhere (of course I'm also planning on using anki).

Online is a distraction.

>>14729540

What books are you talking about?

>>14729563

ones that will guide me from N5 to N1

>>14729605

You failed the test.

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>>14734438