ae1efa No.14355182
It seems like right after all the pushing of the XboxeneX420XSSJ4X the brand quietly died. You still see one or two articles now and then about that shitty 'games as a service' pirate game rares dead husk is shitting out but beyond that it feels like microsoft has finally given up.
Did the xbone X sell far below estimated numbers? Did the rise of the Nintendo Switch and its amazing sales cripple any rise in potential new users as kids would much rather have one for things like Mario Odyssey than a console whos biggest games are "the worst sequel in every exclusive ip" and minecraft?
because i don't know anyone who bought the xbone x, see no adverts for it and dont actually think i have seen them in game stores locally at all.
So are they queitly giving up or just pulling back to their core US audience which seems to be all they have left?
54d1e0 No.14355205
The Switch is set to overtake the Xbone this year, I think.
Not console warring, but I wouldn't be surprised if either this or their next console was their last. Microsoft only had one truly successful console and that was the 360, even then it was only a hit because of how hard Sony dropped the ball at the launch of the PS3. When you boil it down, the Xbone is just a worse version of the PS4 with less games, if such a thing is even possible.
290db1 No.14355210
A friend of mine is a manager at a gamestop. He says niggers are the only ones that buy Xbones, and they usually come back at the end of the month to trade it back for cash when they realize a bag of weed is more fun.
640c8a No.14355228
>>14355182
they built up an enormous install base on the 360 and brand recognition.
they then executed Order 66, which was to try to leverage that into taking over the living room set top box market.
at this point nobody under 50 had cable and so nobody wanted the product they were selling. it was shit for a lot of other reasons, too, but they really marketed it as
>you know how you lease a set top box for a few bucks a month? Well what if you could pay $400 for one tht also played Gears of War?
cfea98 No.14355229
>>14355205
>Not console warring
Discussing consoles pros and cons is not console warring.
It never was
>this or their next console was their last
Unlikely, they want the living room space filled with their hardware and software as well and Microsoft has Millions upon millions to throw away.
They've successfully cut back down on production costs and marketing and somehow still making a profit.
It actually managed to impress me after the 2013 fiasco, then again, a sucker is born every minute.
They'll keep pushing their garbage
e7298a No.14355251
>>14355182
They're still trying to make waves, like trying to buy pubg and bluehole. But their new, stronger console doesn't mean much when they've got nogaems. And before then they were porting their exclusives to PC due to all the flops, so they have even fewer exclusives to try and market for the new xbox one x.
I think what truly fucked them was the fiasco at the beginning. They lost so much support due to their forced always online spyware shit, that they were unable to recover and catch up. It became a vicious cycle of nocustomers = nodaevs = no games.
a7b899 No.14355281
089fb3 No.14355287
03b760 No.14355375
>>14355251
it didn't help them trying to push kinect in the beginning
then shitting on the people who truly believed
then having a much slower console than the competition due to MS's beancounters saying that the price difference in DDR3 and GDDR5 (which was actually almost nil when the machines came out) wasn't worth it
then because of that the xbone was much more difficult to develop for than the PS4 due to the stupid last-gen-style eDRAM split memory pools
plus the locked down Windows horseshit OS requires more resources than the PS4's
and to cap it all off NO FUCKING GAMES
the PS4 doesn't have a lot of games but as a PC gamer there are a few reasons I have one and I'm pleased to own it
I've considered getting an xbox one S for my family because we own every single rock band DLC song and you can play them all on rock band 4 but ultimately it's just sunk costs fallacy all over again, there are no fucking games otherwise, it'd be a $200 (used) rock band machine
718c04 No.14355387
>>14355205
>The Switch is set to overtake the Xbone this year
I thought it did already? That’s why you seeing publish skipping xbone in favor of switch and PS4.
b8144d No.14355389
No. You have six hours of pain.
b8144d No.14355390
You have this many hours to get on top of the immigrants or I am going to start using your SSNs to send dildos across the world. Get swole or go home.
84df7d No.14355397
I am glad it finally died, the xbox was shit from the beginning.
The profit they had from the successful 360 was impacted quite a bit by rrod all day every day, but what killed the xbox was the xbone and the whole kinect disaster and the fact that is has no exclusives.
If only all consoles would die, that would be stellar.
5f2bda No.14355398
>>14355390
w-wut?
I don't get it.
Europe gets rid of immigrants or we're going to be swarmed with a sea of dildos?
On another note, I really liked my xbox 360, had a lot of fun times with it, playing GTA4 online with friends, making fun of Mexicans and blacks who couldn't shoot straight.
Then they had to go and blow it all by saying something stupid like T.V.
b8144d No.14355401
Go ahead, with the ban evasion. You simpering faggot, that pays no attention to the real problem.
b8144d No.14355407
>>14355398
Don't have to be /baph/ to have everyone's number anymore.
5f2bda No.14355408
>>14355397
I'm not console warring, PC is objectively superior but if you've never had the experience of a comfy console in your life then I feel sorry for you anon.
How comfy the ps1 and ps2 were growing up, playing with my brothers split screen tekken, then on the xbox 360, raiding my younger brothers xbox 360 party while he was playing modern warfare 2 quick scoping snipers only while i jumped in using assault rifles pissing him and his friends off. Ah good times.
cfea98 No.14355409
>>14355398
He's spamming
>360
7th Gen was garbage and so was GTA IV
2f066e No.14355412
>>14355229
This.
Microsoft can endlessly throw money at the Xbox until the heat death of the universe.
They don't care if they make money; if they get a single console into a home, they win as they have more of their products collecting data and marketing towards you.
>>14355389
>/tv/ and /sp/ are filled with goons
I think you're the goon in this scenario, anon.
5f2bda No.14355415
>>14355409
The multiplayer of gta4 was a lot of fun, none of the mmo lite bullshit of gtaV. No grinding for money, it was a lot of fun. I wonder if the PC version still has an active population.
e7298a No.14355416
>>14355375
>It'd be a 200$ rock band machine
Yeah, def not worth it. You could easily play rockband on the older xboxs.
287145 No.14355418
e7298a No.14355421
>>14355398
He's mocking you for revealing your I.P address to everyone here, anon.
b8144d No.14355424
>>14355412
I'll knock the ten dollars out of your sweet kissable lips.
5f2bda No.14355425
>>14355421
Oh no, I guess I'll have to watch out for the internet police, consequences will never be the same.
b8144d No.14355429
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These janitors have worse aim than niggers in the sand.
2f066e No.14355430
>>14355375
>spending the entire post comparing two consoles from different generations then finishing off by justifying your ps4 purchase
>>>/reddit/
>>14355424
Prove me wrong tbh fam.
>>14355421
>being able to do jackshit with the vast, vast majority of ip addresses
Ebin meme.
b8144d No.14355457
>>14355430
I'm going to do your job professionally. I just wanted to play video games and you are more sick than vidya.
2f066e No.14355473
>>14355457
>getting upset when i post smug anime even with that filename
>proving my point this hard
Fuck off, Goon.
b8144d No.14355482
>>14355473
Call me a goon, call me a kike. I am just folding paper presently. Why are you so smoked?
cfea98 No.14355514
>>14355430
>spending the entire post comparing two consoles from different generations
He didn't do that though, did you even read his post?
e7298a No.14355552
>>14355430
Post your I.P you slut, see what happens.
a2e9e0 No.14355556
What gets me is the name. What is it with this bullshit of trying to memory hole previous entries in something? In videogames I get that it's because people may feel intimidated to play the second game in the series without playing the first, but in a console?
Also let's not forget that the suits thought this brilliant name would get people to refer to the Xbone as "The One". Yeah, right.
e7298a No.14355578
>>14355556
Replaces the past. Like how when people mention Doom, the other person thinks Nu-Doom, not original Doom. And the younger generations will only really know Nu-Doom. Same thing for england and the bbc where they add in black characters everywhere. Historical revisionism, either for profit or for poltical/ideological purposes.
03b760 No.14355583
>>14355430
>xbox one and PS4
>two different generations?
0165dd No.14355584
>>14355552
I have his IP. It's 192.168.1.2.
e7298a No.14355591
>>14355584
Wtf, that's my house!?
099f45 No.14355630
>>14355228
>>you know how you lease a set top box for a few bucks a month? Well what if you could pay $400 for one tht also played Gears of War?
>and comes with mandatory spycam
f6ed20 No.14355635
>>14355584
Do you trogs not know the difference between generic router IPs and ones for your specific location?
b8144d No.14355641
>>14355584
It's funny because I know everyone with a static. I gave an anon my SSN just to follow the fish.
03b760 No.14355682
>>14355416
yeh, I need to find a 360 that actually works because ours died (as they do) and the last two I tried to buy used from shops around here died within the first week. I got my money back ofc but it's still frustrating because the process of setting up rock band 3 with all the DLCs is absolutely gruelling, you have to go to the website and click "download" on every single song
c81024 No.14355688
>>14355182
their advertisement was spot on
it really was the next water cooler
348efe No.14355973
>>14355408
This. Although honestly I never really had any comfy moments during the Wii/360/PS3 era. Some games were fun, but I never felt comfy or felt like I was having fun like in previous era.
PS2, Dreamcast, and some PC games at the time was the last really comfy time for me.
Honestly the easy piracy at the time made it feel even more comfy too. No guilt over wasted money and a huge library to download and try and finding great gems.
cfea98 No.14355985
>>14355973
>>14355408
Being an idort was worth it up until 7th Gen.
7th Gen was garbage and so was 8th, reminder that Switch is 9th Gen.
25894d No.14356026
>>14355182
I just use the original XB1 as a video streamer on my TV.
9b8b3a No.14356225
>>14355635
Oh we know very well goonturd.
3d5065 No.14356239
>>14355251
>But their new, stronger console doesn't mean much
Wut? Now xbox has 4K screenshots too, PC fags have no argument left in the console wars :^)
7d4c99 No.14356503
>>14356239
Piracy and everything for free.
388fba No.14356514
Japanese games are keeping this gen afloat.
Xbox has few Japanese games.
Connect the dots.
0f0a4d No.14356522
>>14355182
In an era of Government spying they tried to release the Xbone spy box and when there was a backlash they said OK we will not make the spy camera mandatory but were also going to take all the good things we promised away and just release another 360. They shot themselves in the foot right after gaining a pretty rabid following with the 360.
7d4c99 No.14356768
>>14356522
The lesson is: NEVER become a follower/fan of any corporation.
Always exploit them. They are all our enemies.
134330 No.14356901
>>14355182
Dead and buried, thankfully. The next to go should be Microshit itself.
67fc36 No.14356918
I love that every Xbone thread on /v/ is only allowed to have two OP images.
07ffc0 No.14356922
Xbox isn't even for chads or graphics autists at this point. The PS4 has been stealing that image with their own shooters (as if normalfags really ever cared if was halo or not), sportsballs and cinematic nongames, and even the fucking Switch has FIFA now. And it's obvious that PC is always going to beat the shit out of others in terms of Graphics.
It's just a fucking fly-trap for people who blindly buy the console for god knows what reason, as they get cucked by microsoft with W10.
The most baffling part is that Microkikes still think that xbox is such an important hotshit pillar of console gaming that they won't give it up until console gaming completely dies.
be3527 No.14357182
>>14356922
You forgot the most important part: Friend lists. Xbone faggots couldn't abandon them. Universal cross platform and Xbox would've died this gen. Now they can pull out a new gimmick for gen whatever the fuck we're on now. they should really count PS4Pro and XboneX1Shiggydoowoop as partial gens
480841 No.14357195
>>14356922
>And it's obvious that PC is always going to beat the shit out of others in terms of Graphics.
yeah but its not because nobody makes high end pc games any more because they don't sell. so all thats left is shitty multiplats like battlefront 2.
f016e7 No.14357371
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>>14357182
> Friend lists. Xbone faggots couldn't abandon them.
It's amazing just how engineered these systems are for psychological manipulation. People bitch about lootboxes, and rightfully so, but a lot of the same psychological trickery that underpins microtransaction marketing are baked into the features of UIs of mainline consoles as a means to keep it's users brand loyal and buying more products.
Achievements, all the social media integration, activity feeds - even the act of paying to play online is a sort of retention scheme by fooling the customer into thinking they're actually getting something worthwhile for their money when they really aren't.
Or rather, they are - they're getting a subscription to a shitty game of the month club which is basically just a means of guaranteeing monthly sales to boost attach rates. Yet they flip it around a bit, selectively promote certain services with dedicated servers (while staying quiet about how the vast majority of their services are peer to peer) - leading the assumption that you're paying for a premier gaming network AND getting free games! How can Microsoft and Sony manage to pack so much value into a $10 subscription and still make a profit?! Financial wizardry!
Along with the friends lists, Achievements serve to build up a false sense of investment into a platform - making it harder for customers to walk away from that ever-growing gamerscore (which MS has also deftly turned into a monthly competition on your friends lists - buy more games and beat their goy-score!). Meanwhile the social media hooks, clip sharing/achievement unlocks/etc, are just there to increase the viral potential of games by putting it in front of the eyes of everyone on your friendlist and club roster each time you interact with it.
It's really quite disgusting and impressive when you stand back and look at it.
f2e5b3 No.14357403
The brand lives on in the land of the brave mass shooters and free to wear body armour schoolchildren.
f016e7 No.14357426
>>14356768
>They are all our enemies.
They aren't enemies. It's a predator/prey relationship. It's really more of an ecosystem that mirrors nature than what many people want to admit. They don't give a fuck about you beyond what they can extract from your wallet, or what they can leverage you to the degree that you can get other people to pay out more.
At best it's a symbiotic/parasitic relationship, and at worst - it's predatory - but in the end, they're just making money and you (for better or worse) are inconsequential to them beyond your utility.
You're not the enemy of cows because you eat beef, nor the enemy of sheep because you use products which contain wool. No matter how informed or oriented towards self-interest you are - engaging with these companies, on any level, makes you the cow - the sheep. The best you can do is to either pirate (which will make you an enemy), or negotiate your own terms for engagement to get the maximum self-benefit out of an exchange.
Funny how that idea, of the customer being wary and judicial with their purchases, has become out of fashion lately. People started taking the "Take my money" meme seriously and literally, and have moralized consumerism to such a degree that the Jews must be getting friction burns on their palms.
f2e5b3 No.14357452
>>14357426
Gamers are frankly consumer whores They don't do research. They preorder. They buy loot-boxes. Their completion rates for games is 40% on average, constantly going for the next hyped game.Steam sales: lets buy anther 20 games we wont even install!
I've decoupled myself from marketing and advertising and I do not miss it.
388fba No.14357500
>>14356768
>They are all our enemies.
No, your fellow consumer is your enemy. Publishers make what sells.
1b3424 No.14357614
I don't get why they didn't at least aim to have a decent graphical edge from the beginning. That always seemed to be the selling point of the OG Xbox, in bringing over the crossover PC gaming crowd. With the 360 they kind of lucked out in that 3rd party titles often looked noticeably better, not necessarily through any effort of their own.
This gen though from the beginning the word was that the PS4 had a decent edge. They could have just had that one selling point, even if just for word of mouth that gets talked about by normies at the water bubbler at work. Ideally something closer to the One X, but at launch not years and years later. Of course software is then another matter entirely.
cfea98 No.14357628
>>14357195
The best looking PS4 game looks like shit compared to anything on PC.
8th Gen shitters can't even run GTAV or MHW at a steady 30FPS.
85ac17 No.14357648
>>14357371
I want to HEMP the entirety of Microsoft's server infrastructure.
Would that even be as devastating for the entertainment/tech (((industry))) as depicted in contemporary mainstream media?
4c5b6b No.14357851
>>14355182
Hold on, I just realized. Did we ever have a xbone thread that didn't use this exact OP picture?
7d4c99 No.14358410
>>14357371
And that is another reason to raise awareness to normalfags so they start abandoning it all, little by little.
>>14357426
And what the hell is a predator if not the enemy of the prey?
"They don't give a fuck about you beyond what they can extract from your wallet, or what they can leverage you to the degree that you can get other people to pay out more." -> That makes them our enemies.
Any interaction with companies like that must be done in order to harm and end them.
>>14357452
Not Gamers. Normalfags. They would do the same thing in any other medium.
>>14357500
The mindless cattle are not the enemy. The exploitative companies are. All of them.
50d610 No.14358476
really simple, they looked at the data and saw that more people were watching Netflix than playing games.
they then thought that they could sell a $400 Netflix player.
21706d No.14358502
>>14355415
>The multiplayer of gta4 was a lot of fun, none of the mmo lite bullshit of gtaV. No grinding for money, it was a lot of fun. I wonder if the PC version still has an active population.
PC version went down with GFWL sadly.
21706d No.14358518
>>14355985
Consoles died when they started being online multiplayer boxes above all else (so yes, 7th gen basically). The Switch is really just a specialised tablet/handheld with a gimmick ability to be played more comfortably when at home so it's questionable if it should be counted as a console generation at all I don't mean that negatively, it fills that niche well and all.
063a88 No.14358541
Nearly all of the Bone's exclusive games are coming to PC. So the Bone is just being treated as a low-end PC.
cfea98 No.14358563
>>14358518
>Consoles died when they started being online multiplayer boxes above all else
Pretty much
2007 again is the number of the Beast and was the year that truly made console online games mainstream.
Installation times, needing storage and a navigation menu just made me fuckoff from the systems for good.
The successors of those two being underpowered at launch and having the same trends attached to it with even less games on them just made me fuckoff for good.
>Switch
The Switch is literally a Nintendo branded Tegra tablet with licensing agreements.
I'd say it still falls in the console category somehow on
a83d45 No.14358800
>>14355985
Switch is 8th gen, get over it. Plenty of companies released multiple consoles in one generation before (Sega with SG-1000 and Master System, NEC with TurboGrafx, TurboDuo, and SuperGrafx). Just because Nintendo did it doesn't mean we all have to pretend the next generation is out.
c4f92c No.14358814
>So whats happened to the Xbox?
fa8b63 No.14358821
It's funny how it has managed to destroy its own exclusives. Gears? Dead. Halo? Dead. The only thing that's still up in the air that they own is Crackdown.
5c75f2 No.14358863
>>14355205
>The Switch is set to overtake the Xbone this year, I think.
GNU/Linux is set to overtake everyone in 2018, the year of the GNU/Linux desktop, console, phone, toaster & automobile
c9c170 No.14358904
c938fe No.14358916
>>14358880
what web browser do you use?
54d1e0 No.14358921
>>14358880
I never understood this meme.
Being closed source doesn't somehow make something better.
41184d No.14358925
>>14358863
>a product produced and upkept by a handful of basement nerds doing whatever they want whenever they feel like it as quickly or slowly as they please
>ever going to overtake systems designed by professionals with their livelihood on the line, for the purpose of profit
5e2d9c No.14358935
1ba905 No.14358948
>>14358821
Halo might get undead.
Bungie lost the final Halo devs with Destiny 2 flopping, so if 343 picks them up they have a shot, especially since they fired the guys in charge of story and gameplay for the past 2 games.
54d1e0 No.14358954
>>14358948
Nobody cared about the first Destiny, why did they make a sequel?
1ba905 No.14358959
>>14358954
(((Activision))) was pushing eSports at the time.
0e3b44 No.14359021
>>14355205
All consoles are shit.
7d0ed7 No.14359028
With normalfags, the Xbone X is doing reasonably well despite being last place, PS4 is strong as ever being split between old PS4 and PS4 pro (the pro version is less popular), the Switch is blowing up in a big way, and PC still has generally the same portion of the market it always has, though support for PC tends to grow slowly.
General combos: PC only, PC and Switch, PC and Switch and PS4, PC and Xbone, PS4 only, Xbone only, PS4 and Switch, and some retards who will actually buy one of everything.
Xbone X is for those who are really casual with games and can barely even explain why they chose Xbone (brand and "strongest console").
PS4 is either the sole game machine for a slightly less retarded casual or the person likes games more and will talk about the exclusives.
Switch has those sweet Ninty IPs and the portability factor plus decent to strong third party, so its just growing and growing. But no one JUST has a Switch. It's always an additional console, or added with a PC.
PC is PC. Nothing new. Often complements a console, or is the only games platform.
It's honestly a pretty damn good time for video games these days.
These insights are slightly skewed. I'm at tech school in the Air Force in a cyber job field, so obviously there's a specific demographic here. Probably more Switches and PCs and less Xbones in general, and 95% of people here play games. Also ton of people watching anime.
8a38ec No.14359037
>>14359028
>PC and Xbone
There's no point in having a Boner if you have a PC.
c9c170 No.14359120
>>14358925
>Implying something can't be both designed by professionals and be open source.
Android
Apache
Cent OS
Debian
Fedora
Ubuntu
Unreal Engine 4
VLC media player
Mozilla Firefox (and many of the derivatives)
Chromium (and many of the derivatives)
Open source isn't free software, but even if we were to narrow it to that we would still have the likes of Android, Chromium, and CentOS, which you can't argue are some obscure, barely used pieces of software.
7d0ed7 No.14359158
>>14359037
You would think that, wouldn't you? I think it's so they can have strong PC and strong console. Or maybe their friends are on Xbone. Idk
e65252 No.14359234
>>14359037
I have two PCs at home.
good pc for production and hardcore gaming.
shit pc for use as topbox for tv/movies, casual/party gaming and guests.
If you changed the shit one with a boner it would make no difference other than i would sell the spare parts of the good one rather than upgrade the shit one
25894d No.14359268
>>14357371
I admit, maintaining my already largely accrued gamerscore was the main reason I bought an Xbox One. I gradually drifted towards PC because I got really tired of playing everything in 30 fps.
8a38ec No.14359296
>>14359234
If you changed it with a PS4 you would at least have some games you can't play on PC. That's my point.
81ba46 No.14359379
>>14357426
>They aren't enemies.
>It's a predator/prey relationship.
Yautja go home this is a Xenomorph neighborhood
2dd79b No.14359399
>>14355408
In high school a friend of mine had a side business making 360s loaded with pirated games and selling them, so we'd go over to his house on weekends, order pizza, and play 4-player splitscreen CoD for hours on end while crammed into an attic too short to stand up in, two of us sitting on a couch a hand's breadth from falling down the stairs and the other two sitting on the floor. I got hundreds of hours of firsthand experience with every mainline CoD game from MW2 to BO2, and playing tonnes of shitty hack-and-slash dungeon crawler games just because they supported 3- and 4-player co-op. Sometimes we'd go back to emulating Mario Kart Double Dash or Fortune Street on Dolphin if we couldn't find anything.
I don't know how many hours I spent being a riot shield low tier hero against that one shitass who'd use nothing but akimbo P90s and Stopping Power the whole time, which was tough because we were on 200% health and I needed 4 hits to kill him. I remember becoming very familiar with the way my character held the shield as he ran and positioning myself so the bullets would mostly graze me, then running in and fucking him while he reloaded for two minutes. Shotguns only on the map Rust was another great time, because after MW2 every "small, close-quarters map" was progressively larger until you got to something like Blops 2's cruise ship map, which was the size of many medium-large maps in MW2 and 3.
Shitty pizza, shitty video games, and good friends. Nothing like it.
8a38ec No.14359412
>>14359399
Nice blog. Upboated.
25894d No.14359429
>ps1 and ps2 were growing up
how about nes, snes, and n64 youngblood
971d8d No.14359460
>>14359429
Depends on how you define 'growing up'. Playing PS1/2 in your teens means you were playing games at a time when you were still growing up.
2dd79b No.14359472
>>14359028
>Also ton of people watching anime
What kind of anime and manga do people in the Air Force/military watch and read?
2dd79b No.14359477
b966ed No.14359509
>>14359399
>having friends
nice LARP faggot
cfea98 No.14359512
>>14359399
>360
>CoD on the 360
>Anything after the shitpiece that was MW2
>MW3
I was a retarded squeaking normalfag 14 year old and I build my first computer then and stopped playing CoD after MW2 came out and was a big shitpile of dissapointment.
To this day I still don't know how grown men with more experience on this hobby put up with that garbage.
2dd79b No.14359556
>>14359512
We didn't have much else in common, so the weekend sessions were an excuse to say hello and get out of the house. The games weren't exactly good, but we had fun in spite of that.
s-sorry for being a blogposting faggot
80fdd3 No.14359565
>>14359472
Mostly entry level shit like DBZ, but there are some hardcore weebs in surprising places in the military.
A lieutenant colonel I was sitting next to during a powerpoint presentation had a Nichijou background on his phone.
8a38ec No.14359578
>>14359565
You should have asked him who the best girl is and why is it Yukko
cfea98 No.14359606
>>14359565
>>14359578
>Nichijou
they're all best girls
93d6cb No.14359827
>>14357371
>>14357371
People lose their fucking minds when I point out the harm that achievements have done. Usually something something snowflake generation or whatever. Like harassing your friends list with time challenges and uploading YouTube videos for +10G is some intense test of skill or something.
I was actually excited for achievements at the start. Finally a record of your gaming accomplishments. Now they can't even be fucked to put in a "complete the game" achievement most of the time.
Basically I fell for the meme and I feel stupid.
8a38ec No.14359855
>>14359827
There's literally nothing wrong with achievements as long as you're not a retard who buys games just to increase your e-peen. As long as it's a game you like, it's just something to give you more challenges you might not have thought of.
Some people go overboard though. Like someone might not start a game if they're not sure they are going to like it because it will affect their total percentage, or stupid shit like that.
a397aa No.14359862
>>14355205
The Switch is an inferior console. The specs are weak, only and ONLY good as a portable.
Switch's tech, and graphics capabality should be on par with Xbox 1 S and PS4 Pro, the very least.
Only Mario games looks bloody good on switch.
Good Thing Monster Hunter ditched Nintendo.
I looked at Skyrim on switch, god awful.
2dd79b No.14359881
>>14359855
>There's literally nothing wrong with achievements as long as you're not a retard who buys games just to increase your e-peen. As long as it's a game you like, it's just something to give you more challenges you might not have thought of.
The thing that's wrong about them is that kind of content should be in the game, and it certainly shouldn't be connected to a separate online profile which encourages you to brag about it.
cfea98 No.14359893
>>14359862
>I looked at Skyrim on switch
It's the FOV
I think it's lower than 7th Gen
cfea98 No.14359929
>>14359915
>Bethkikes will never give out the source code or even mod tools for NuDoom so people can mod theur garbage design and make the game similar to the original but with a more effective pistol
Fucking kikes
000000 No.14359954
>>14355182
>>14355375
If that faggot wasn't Sony spy who was trying to bury xbone on purpose I've got no idea wtf was he doing.
All he had to say to burgerfats "see dis box nignogz? dis playz games! and it's patriotic free console not weeb bad radioactive console!" Here, sold.
8a38ec No.14359969
>>14359954
It's not like he designed the thing.
000000 No.14359979
8a38ec No.14359998
>>14359979
So you think he should have just not mentioned the "features"? Pretty sure that would be false advertisement if people expected a game console and ended up with a surveillance station.
000000 No.14360009
>>14359998
iphones are also surveillance devices yet marketed as phones
8a38ec No.14360022
f41cbd No.14360355
>>14358921
its most cases it does but people conveniently forget the outlandish price tag and uncompetitive nature of forcing everyone to make something completely different than what you made because god forbid you have to keep innovating instead of riding off one idea the rest of your life or having to provide an actual service beyond "im the only one in town"
aa5f39 No.14360374
>>14355182
>Killed a lot of their first party studios
>Became the "Dudebro shooter console"
>Online didn't improve
>They destroyed their communities and alienated a lot of the older demographic
>Most of their console exclusives are fucking shit with no variety
>Remember Plants Vs Zombies? it's sequel was a still a dumbed down CoD clone that died after 3 months
>No games worth owning
>Gears of War 4 and Halo 5 was a divershitty games
>Everyone moved on
Now this is how you kill your brand.
ea2b6b No.14360434
>>14358502
Nigger are you literally retarded? Installed and played IV on my PC this weekend, all you have to do is change your computer's date to sometime in 2013, install Rockstar's official Patch 1.0.8.0 to remove the RGSC and XLiveless to remove the GFWL parts and enable offline saving.
ea2b6b No.14360438
>>14360434
Securom still sucks massive dick though, that I will say.
bce207 No.14360458
> Brand quality
The only XBox that managed to maintain anything like that was the 360 and that was only because Halo was still a hype machine. The system itself as a piece of shit that broke sll the time.
039e21 No.14360476
A while ago Yahtzee made a comment suggesting Microsoft are trying to become a gaming PC manufacturer over time, and honestly that's probably what the smart thing would be to do. They already have the connections, the consumer base, and the hardware compatibility, and they made it a point to try and make Windows 10 as gaming friendly as possible. If Microsoft has a future in gaming it is certainly on the PC, assuming they don't continue to completely cock it up like they've been doing ever since 8 came out.
651a19 No.14360724
>>14358921
Being paid for your work does wonders, anon.
640c8a No.14360756
>>14359998
>Pretty sure that would be false advertisement if people expected a game console and ended up with a surveillance station.
ms were huffing their own farts so hard that they thought the things they were pushing onto the platform that nobody wanted were what set them apart and made them better from sony
they were right about one of those things, it definitely set them apart, as lepers
640c8a No.14360766
>>14360724
>Being paid for your work does wonders
most fulltime open source developers work for major corporations, this shit isn't written by NEETS even if NEETS are allowed to make contributions to the codebase.
or did you think Red Hat was a charity or something
e7df17 No.14360776
>>14357371
About achievements, I actually remember a lot of Xboxfags who happened to play on PC once in a while defending GFWL because the achievements were shared with their Xbox. They didn't care that the service was awful, it was worth it just for some retarded achievements.
It's sort of annoying that GFWL, which was really a terrible service, was sort of perpetuated on PC by people who weren't even mainly PC users.
61cd30 No.14360877
"So we go into the meeting and four o'clock Valentine's Day–Bill walks in he's holding a Powerpoint deck and yells, 'This is the blanking insult to everything I've done at this company' and that was the start, so we all looked at [Xbox director and designer J Allard] because we knew Bill's mad about the no Windows thing, because we forgot to 'pre-disaster' him, so J is in shock for a minute and Bill yells at me and shuts me down and Robbie steps up and Bill shuts him down anyway, and then Ballmer goes through and says we're gonna lose a lot of money and he's beating us up about that, hours go by its five o clock, its six o clock, it's Valentines Day! Most of us have something going on!
"So we spent years working on this and looking at each other and convincing them this is the best plan, so finally one of the observers at the meeting just raises his hand and says, 'What about Sony?' and he says, 'Sony is slowly invading the living room with a processor here software there, they could be a threat to Microsoft.' So Bill and Steve stop and look at each other and go, 'Yeah…what about Sony?' And so Bill turns and says, 'I'm going to give you guys everything you want' and Ballmer repeats the same thing. And I turn to Robbie and say, 'That was the weirdest meeting I've ever been in.'"
9ec3b7 No.14360910
>>14359578
pic rel
>>14355210
I'd believe it. Overhearing a black (he's not a complete nig since he at least works for a living) co-worker next to me last week, someone asked if he was a gamer and he replied he has an xbox.
It's a sample of one, but I think it's scientifically proven and valid. :^)
21706d No.14360923
>>14360434
>all you have to do is change your computer's date to sometime in 2013, install Rockstar's official Patch 1.0.8.0 to remove the RGSC and XLiveless to remove the GFWL parts and enable offline saving.
How do you actually find other players? I wasn't aware there was a workaround.
7d4c99 No.14361342
>>14360724
Getting entertainment for free is even better.
0165dd No.14361353
>>14359929
Did you hear what their excuse for Daggerfall was? They "lost" the source code.
7d4c99 No.14362326
>>14361353
Even more reason to never support companies.
Play games only when you can get them for free or when their code is leaked.
Companies will always scam you to steal your money via Video Games.
69598d No.14362414
>>14362326
Even more reason to never support farmers.
Eat fruits and vegetables only when you can get them for free or when you find them on the ground.
Farmers will always scam you to steal your money via food.
f016e7 No.14362619
>>14358948
>Bungie lost the final Halo devs with Destiny 2 flopping, so if 343 picks them up they have a shot
A bunch of the 343 and Bungie guys have abandoned both companies and come together to form Highwire Games who are working on PSVR titles, of all things.
https://highwiregames.com/the-team/
It's a bit like a group of friends breaking themselves free of Mormonism and Scientology and joining the Heaven's Gate cult if you ask me.
f016e7 No.14362631
>>14361353
Didn't some autists get together and completely rebuild Daggerfall from scratch in unity? So what's the fucking point of not releasing the Daggerfall source code if they have it?
abb59d No.14362660
>>14358948
Why do retards imply the halo devs ever made a good game?
This notion is as stupid as claiming the RE4 team is the only hope Resident Evil has of ever being good again
cfea98 No.14362669
>>14362660
>Marathon was bad
>The first Halo was bad
Nah
7d4c99 No.14362670
>>14362414
Food is essential.
Entertainment is not.
Fun is a distraction to relax, and must always be free.
abb59d No.14362684
>>14362669
4/10 fps games being the best thing in your resume doesn't make them saviours
cfea98 No.14362687
>>14362670
>Entertainmment must always be free
>If you work to provide better quality of entertainmment you're not to be renumerated
Sounds like commie talk
9436af No.14362699
>>14362670
>Fun is a distraction to relax, and must always be free.
>must always be free
COMMIES OUT
cfea98 No.14362704
>>14362684
>4/10
More like 8/10 and 7/10
>Saviours
Nigger dicksucking any company is retarded and Halo is a massively overrated franchise, only Halo 3 was decent after the first one
f016e7 No.14362710
>>14362670
I'm sure this is bait, but I'm gonna bite. This is completely ass-backwards. Entertainment is a luxury, and a non-necessity. Food is a necessity. If anything, food, basic healthcare, and shelter should be free, while you pay extra for luxuries - because you're not going to ease a non-working population into the workforce by providing them with distractions. You need to cover basic survival so that they can focus on being put to work - and use the luxuries to incentivize them into getting better jobs and being more productive as a means of raising their quality of life above the bare minimum functional squalor.
648a66 No.14362775
>>14360766
I think Red Hat's efforts are overall a clever means to make the Linux ecosystem no better than Windows. And it's very nearly succeeded, too, outside of a few stragglers and Gentoo-based distros.
54d1e0 No.14363038
>>14359862
I don't own either of them and honestly I don't fucking care, my point was that the Xbone is now 3rd place and falling behind Sony and Microsoft fast.
7d4c99 No.14363088
>>14362687
>>14362699
Are you ok with paying for fun?
I prefer getting it for free.
>>14362710
Fun must never become a luxury.
Having fun can become an addiction to something that is not essential. You start to pay for fun, and sometime later, we have shit like lootboxes, paid DLC for games before they even release, and all other predatory practices.
Always have fun for free and never pay for entertainment.
As for food and everything else, you only deserve to live if you are productive (as in, producing essential services) and capable of feeding for yourself.
8a38ec No.14363553
Reminder to stop responding to bait. It's the same anon who does this all the time to derail threads.
64cacd No.14363673
>>14355182
>So are they queitly giving up
Pretty much, they've wanted out of the industry for a while. You can tell that from all their faulty hardware.
000000 No.14363730
>>14362775
>not running Voidlinux to bypass Harry Poettering's cancerware
Lad…
9ec3b7 No.14363777
>>14363730
>Voidlinux
I dunno TORposter. I've heard AlpineLinux is alright, but I will probably stick with Manjaro for a while longer.
85c774 No.14363794
>>14362670
>Entertainment is not.
Sit still for 24 hours and tell me how that was like, anon.
7d4c99 No.14363853
>>14363794
If you are a useless soyboy, that is your problem.
Human beings have work to do.
We also get in shape when we aren't working, as well as taking care of other aspects of life, such as family or interacting with friends.
Entertainment is a small and completely non-essential aspect of life. Whenever it is available, it must be free because of it's non-essential purpose.
85c774 No.14363913
>>14363853
>Human beings have work to do.
>get in shape
>family, friends
Golly gee, that sounds like you are a creature that lives by doing things.
Any and all form of action is you not laying down and waiting for death, anon.
We don't have to do any of these things, knowing that we'll die one day. All we do is keep ourselves entertained if you will until we bite the dust.
Societies thrive by not being happy communist faggots who get everything shoved up their arse but offering rewards to the smart and the strong.
Play is absolutely vital and essential for animal and human survival.
893ff9 No.14363955
>>14355182
>So are they queitly giving up or just pulling back to their core US audience which seems to be all they have left?
The Xbox was been an unprofitable failure for most of its existence, propped up solely because Microsoft kept throwing money at it out of their desire to own the console market. And without them trying to artificially make it succeed in a market that doesn't actually want it, it's going to die pretty fucking fast.
5e2d9c No.14363960
>>14363777
wasn't manjaro at the center of some recent controversy
5e2d9c No.14363974
>>14362670
I am going to start collecting these posts i think there is something fishy going with this or these individuals making these posts in every thread regardless of the subject.
8a38ec No.14363983
>>14363955
They could succeed if they focused on exclusives rather than new hardware revisions that nobody wants.
>>14363974
see >>14363553
60c06e No.14364061
>>14359862
Why buy a console if you want graphics?
9ec3b7 No.14364076
>>14363960
>wasn't manjaro at the center of some recent controversy
I dunno, not being sarcastic I really do not know. The last time I checked was about a year ago, when iirc most of their team decided to become Alpine to avoid or dump poetterware. I run a couple of different distros but for now I'm okay with manjaro on my shitposting machine due the comfort level.
893ff9 No.14364146
>>14363983
>They could succeed
The Xbox never really had anything to offer hardware-wise and the only reason it ever had exclusives is because Microsoft paid or outright bought devs to make exclusive games for it. My point is the Xbox succeeds only as long as MS is willing to throw fucktons of money at it without caring whether or not it turns a profit. If they're no longer willing to do that, and it doesn't look like they are, the Xbox quickly fades into oblivion.
761e8a No.14364147
>>14364061
I am not owning one of the current generation consoles, but I can see the logic behind it.
On a console you can see the graphic evolve over the time of a generation, as the developer become more experienced with the hardware.
Meanwhile on the PC the transition is more janky, improvements on graphic technology are constantly made but few games actually use them and it takes years for a new game to come out that really pushes the ceiling.
8a38ec No.14364185
>>14364146
>the only reason it ever had exclusives is because Microsoft paid or outright bought devs to make exclusive games for it
Well yeah, that's how console makers usually get third-party exclusives. They should have focused more on that.
60c06e No.14364223
>>14364147
Why would you want to wait for graphics?
>I could have these graphics right now with smoother gameplay
>Or I could wait for them 5 years
>whoops, they released an upgraded version of the console now I'm stuck with these subpar graphics and the devs now have half as much time as before to optimize
None of this shit matters anyway, nowadays most graphics look like shit.
893ff9 No.14364293
>>14364185
>Well yeah, that's how console makers usually get third-party exclusives.
Once upon a time consoles got third party exclusives because certain games were only possible on certain hardware, or it was more economical or easier to develop for X instead of Y, or this platform was more popular than that platform with the demographic you wanted to reach. But with the Xbox the only compelling reason to develop exclusives for it was "because Microsoft either paid you to or bought your company and forced you to". There was never any organic reason to say "you know what, I'm going to make my game an Xbox exclusive".
480841 No.14364316
>>14364293
most exclusives were done for financial reasons in the past. The industry has been designed this way for a very long time.
8a38ec No.14364342
>>14364293
>certain games were only possible on certain hardware
That hasn't been the case for a long time.
893ff9 No.14364354
>>14364316
>The industry has been designed this way for a very long time.
>>14364342
>That hasn't been the case for a long time.
I know. I'm just an old man trying to remember the good old days and figuring out who I need to kill to bring them back
9ec3b7 No.14364379
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>>14364354
>and figuring out who
You know who and what they are.
72f24b No.14364405
>>14355210
>>14355205
The Xbox/Xbox360 was the Golden Age. It took a lot of effort to build it, from Doom, to Goldeneye, to Final Fantasy, to Ultima, to the original N4S, but when the Xbox/PS2 generation hit, that was the golden era, and it kept going.
Remember the glitz, the glamor? All the excitement when next gen consoles, which at the time were the 360 and PS3, were launched?
Now its gone. All gone.
72f24b No.14364415
>>14355630
>>and comes with mandatory spycam
A redundant one too, since smart tvs typically have spycams for videochatting.
>>14355228
And it was massive overkill, the 360 already had everything you needed for Netflix/Hulu streaming and downloading.
194071 No.14364440
>>14355205
> I wouldn't be surprised if either this or their next console was their last
The Bone failure is a drop in the bucket for them.
iirc only the 360 in it's last years was profitable in the whole XBox brand.
They don't give a fuck if it fails, since they can retry over and over again until they manage to get their box into every household as a second Windows system that everyone uses for TV and shit.
480841 No.14364442
>>14364354
since the 4th generation NEC, Sega, and Nintendo have competed for developer support. Taking on projects and making partnerships. Console manufacturers created technology to appeal to developers and answer their concerns. The Playstation existed because developers were interested in CD technology and 3D, the market was, and Sony assured them their platform would be good to work on (it was) and in order to secure their support they helped fund the development of the games.
Literally all the best games are produced by these platform holders saying "hey, give us a pitch, if we like it, we'll talk contracts and arrange funding." It's why Nintendo had fuck all third party support and why third parties often talked shit about how Nintendo worked, because they generated a lot of baggage for how selective they were with third parties during the N64, dragging over to the GC, and the wii put them into a position that people wanted to develop for it to tap into the market it had.
The industry has worked this way for a long time in order to break it from Nintendo's vice grip during the third generation, and because of it we got a greater variety of games and the best games ever made. We need to go back to it because it gave us the best games. Microsoft broke it during the 7th generation with their multiplatform policies and how they arranged exclusives, how they empowered western studios and funded journalists to discredit Japanese ones.
72f24b No.14364443
BTW everyone, the Sega Geneis is for sale for 40$, and it includes over 200 games on the console.
So maybe one day, the PS2/Xbox will have a sale where all of there stuff is on a box that you can buy.
1e54f7 No.14364447
>>14364405
>All the excitement when next gen consoles, which at the time were the 360 and PS3, were launched?
I remember it, and I remember the disappointment when neither got a game.
61f2fd No.14364462
>>14355375
>Every single Rock Band DLC song
I'll give you $150 to license share your account with me.
72f24b No.14364473
>>14358925
>>ever going to overtake systems designed by professionals with their livelihood on the line, for the purpose of profit
You mean by Pajeet, for shitting in our streets.
72f24b No.14364481
>>14358948
>Halo might get undead
No it won't. They killed it good with 4.
tbh, they shit the bed at the end of 2,
no, tbh, they shit the bed WITH 2 when they fucked with placing the targeting reticle anywhere but center.
72f24b No.14364542
>>14364447
>neither got a game
Yeah just fuck off.
cfea98 No.14364575
>>14364542
The PS3 has Demon Souls and AC
That's literally it
7d6beb No.14364594
A cancer cuckchan console war thread and its full of fucking faggots.
5e2d9c No.14364596
0016dc No.14364599
>>14364594
You don't have much room to call others faggot when posting MLP.
6544b8 No.14364637
>>14359862
>Good Thing Monster Hunter ditched Nintendo.
Too bad in the jump to PC/TV consoles it became a steaming pile of shit. Fucking monkey's paw.
cfea98 No.14364664
>>14364596
>MGS4
This is a videogames board anon
7d4c99 No.14364708
>>14363913
Yeah. Soyboy exposed.
Live like the inferior animal that you are.
We, human beings, superior to you, have a more fulfilling life to live.
And that includes getting ALL entertainment for free.
>>14363983
Exclusives mean nothing without talented people making them. Microsoft let go of all of it's talents.
>>14364354
The jews and the leftists.
>>14364405
Such is the fate of letting any industry to spread to all demographics. That is why keeping companies and studios always low and unable to grow too much is the best way to deal with it.
>>14364442
That is precisely what makes the current western industry shit.
If anything, we need MORE japanese tight control of the whole industry, as it was done before.
>>14364596
That is an interactive movie. Not a game.
480841 No.14364724
>>14364708
>If anything, we need MORE japanese tight control of the whole industry, as it was done before.
it's getting there. I think once a few more flops like dad of war happen and that zombie game that I don't even remember the name of, there will be more games like Left Alive. 2017 was a major year for this shift.
f016e7 No.14364779
>>14364724
>and that zombie game that I don't even remember the name of
Which one? There's like three zombie games coming out that I can't remember the name of, as well as The Last of Cucks 2: Doggo Edition if you count that as a Zombie game.
cfea98 No.14364816
480841 No.14364837
>>14364779
I don't know they showed it off 2 E3s in a row. The first demo had them showing off l4d tier zombie flocking technology and it was pretty unimpressive because l4d is going to be 10 years old this year.
25894d No.14365298
Why does /v/ hate Xbox so much?
cfea98 No.14365479
>>14365298
Every modern console is shit and the Xbone is the shittiest one of them all
25894d No.14365529
>>14365479
So only PC and old games will not get you bullied?
25894d No.14365675
>>14365610
>>14365658
I guess bullying can be productive if it causes you to change yourself in a positive way.
b20986 No.14365699
>>14365675
That's the whole point of bullying you dingus. To make you associate stupid behavior with social rejection so you stop.
Also, fun at expense of retards.
d621b2 No.14365754
>>14365699
Too bad it rarely works.
876397 No.14365772
>>14365754
It only doesn't work if you're anti-social.
d621b2 No.14365805
>>14365772
>>14365772
>It only doesn't work if you're anti-social.
So, pretty much a good majority of /v/ then.
876397 No.14365851
cfea98 No.14365856
>>14365805
>>14365754
Future school shooter here gents
d621b2 No.14365941
>>14365856
>Future school shooter here folks
Said the faggot sucking Halo dick.
a9ecd8 No.14366063
>>14365610
Why does /v/ never discuss retro games then?
df8bb6 No.14366075
e6b3e3 No.14366159
>>14355418
If thats a reference, only i get it.
fcb73e No.14366167
>>14362670
<Fun is a distraction to relax, and must always be free.
>It's that communist faggot who spams lolis while ranting about how game developers shouldn't be paid again
>Failing to realize all the shit ones rely on government handout or corrupting a classic franchise that sold like hot cakes because their shitty games can't stand on their own two legs
0016dc No.14366186
>>14366167
>>It's that communist faggot who spams lolis while ranting about how game developers shouldn't be paid again
I'm glad I'm not the only one who recognizes him.
039e21 No.14366521
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Remember when the Xbox had mech combat simulators with actual controllers that got you immersed and made you feel like you were really behind the wheel of a walking tank? Those were good days.
Steel Battalion should have been a PC game, honestly. There is no reason that controller couldn't have had a USB connector.
9436af No.14366574
>>14366521
>There is no reason that controller couldn't have had a USB connector.
The connectors for xbox controllers are just modified usb ones.
aa5f39 No.14366639
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>>14366521
The Kinect fucking killed that, all those "comeback" games with a shitty motion gaming gimmicks, fuck you Microsoft, it's bad enough you abandoned PC gaming by fucking it up with Games for Windows - Live and gutting all your PC game studios, but you had to ruin everything with Kinect.
1e54f7 No.14366683
>>14366639
It's not like microsoft was a friend of PC gaming before games for windows live, and they didn't make any good games either.
aa5f39 No.14366723
>>14366683
They acquired several PC game studios like Ensemble, wasted their time developing games for the Xbox and Xbox 360 only to shitcan them one after the other till they ran out of money and Microkikes just closed them, fucking assholes.
039e21 No.14366764
>>14366723
I'm still pissed about Ensemble's closure. Way to kneecap the entire RTS genre, assholes.
And the salt in the wound is they announced the closure during development for Halo Wars, robbing them of any incentive to redeem the Halo license before it was given to 343. Why did anyone agree to make games for them?
e1c20c No.14367058
>>14355229
The living room itself is dead though.
fcb73e No.14367090
>>14367058
You couldn't be further from the truth. You forget normalfags. Normalfags always do things with their friends or in a social setting. Think of how many games STALKER, Thief, etc couldn't work in a social setting, and are more or less unknown to normalfags. Then think of how many shitty games are "fun with friends" everything is fun with friends.
e1c20c No.14367108
>>14355251
On the contrary, i believe they lost the race when they backtracked. The original xbone concept was a devs paradise. The always online was to go with the could system. That, along with the datamining and the lock on piracy would have won them quite the exclusives.
Not to mention that they killed kinect. The voice commands in games like skyrim and me3 were quite fun. Small integrations of kinect comands in multiplat games would have gone a long way. And kinect games were fun, if you had the space to play them.
The original concept would have given devs so much room, the console would have done well on its own, with little investment from microsoft.
But they thrown everything away, devs have no reason to prefer xbone over ps4 and the brand is dead. Microsoft wasn't ready to invest in exclusives, so they ended up empty ended.
There is no recovery from this fiasco. The next "xbox" will be a w10 desktop tower made by alienware.
cea1c7 No.14367109
>>14355182
it spied itself to death
039e21 No.14367319
>>14367108
>There is no recovery from this fiasco. The next "xbox" will be a w10 desktop tower made by alienware.
I'm surprised Apple still hasn't leaped on what might be the only opportunity they'll ever have to market their PCs to game developers. But then again Microsoft failed to leap on the one chance they had to take back the desktop while Apple were distracted building phones and tablets, so maybe it's a courtesy thing.
84cd98 No.14367324
>>14367319
Besides the anemic GPUs, delayed drivers, decade old OpenGL, pushing Metal instead of offering supporting Vulkan, hilariously lax updates for their entire desktop line and the fact devs are more than capable of building their own machines for a fraction of the price?
1693a7 No.14367331
If they made their online services free, people would buy their console.
c068a3 No.14367345
>>14361342
But technically, the people who worked on your products are being paid, sometimes even the ones behind all the cracking and hacking are on some autist's payroll or patreon.
>>14358880
>>14358921
The idea behind it is to make fun of a particular type of linux-worshipper that treats anything that doesn't have observable source code as sinful (despite most linux-worshippers not even bothering to look into the code itself, expecting other autists to do the work for them) and anything but free shit is acceptable to them. It's not trying to diminish the accomplishments of open source software as much as pointing out that, by its very nature, it can never ever be a finished product, unlike older software distributions behind a paywall or freemium stuff.
Obviously in the last 5+ years what constitutes a finished product has drastically changed and increasingly more companies are more than happy to charge full price for pre-alpha versions of their shitcans, or forcing users to switch to their systems *cough*win10*cough* by pointing an imaginary gun at their heads and telling to accept the graciously free offer Michaelsoft created for them. But nevertheless it's undeniable that nine out of ten times shit behind paywalls is more stable than free shit, even if it's in infinitely smaller percentages of "safe".
>>14359120
Half of what you posted was either bought off by corporations or of dubious quality, bordering the free-NSA-pass kind of deal, but you're not wrong at all, there CAN be open source and successful systems, but it's the over reliance of some folks on supporting open source rather than supporting what's good and functional that is being heavily mocked by online communities.
>>14359124
Pajeets are only a tad bit better than Chinks because at the very least they do not pretend everything is working in their products, Chinks will go out of their ways to act as if bugs do not exists and no known solution was known at the time of release.
7d4c99 No.14367755
>>14365754
But it is still fun at the expense of retards.
>>14366167
Nothing wrong with enslaving entertainers and having entertainment always for free.
>>14367108
It does not matter if it is good for the developers if it is shit for consumers.
Nobody wants to be spied.
Most companies fail to realize that: your specs and approach to your associates means NOTHING when you have some gimmick that is hated by the consumer.
>>14367331
No, they would not.
It had no good games for a long time.
XBone was born with "TV! SPORTS! LIVING ROOM! SPY CAMS!" shit. Everybody just left, as we wanted video games and nothing else.
>>14367345
As long as it is not with our money, good.
Never spend on fun. Have fun for free.
As for street-shitters, what you described is exactly what they do, no?
cfea98 No.14367894
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14366683
Microsoft actually released plenty of games for PC after acquiring companies, not all of them bad, this before they released the Xbawks of course, after that it was the reverse, paying companies and acquiring them to port and make them exclusive to the platform.
>>14367108
>They lost the race because they backtracked
Is this some sort of historical revisionism?
Always online and being forced to pay for Kinect were the most reviled thing I have ever seen.
Nobody, from the core playerbase to normalfags like it and only the most dedicated fanturds defended this shit.
>Cloud meme
Are you for fucking real?
>>14367755
Kill yourself
81de94 No.14368089
>>14359565
This. I shared anime, manga, and hentai with a good amount of people on my ship in the navy. This is what happens when normalfags all have interest in the same shit. Same music, porn, movies, and books. In a few months everyone had the same shit and burned through them. Meanwhile I had all this "bizarre" stuff they never seen or wanted to get into. They watched DBZ and One Piece but had no idea what else was out there. Within a few months I would get requests every few days for 2D related stuff and music.
>>14362414
>Eat fruits and vegetables only when you can get them for free or when you find them on the ground.
Didn't you hear goy? That seed you're using has a copyright on its DNA so you can't harvest your seeds yourself!
>>14359881
It shouldn't be a replacement for scoring systems either. Scores no one could gain were something worth bragging about. Now scoring systems are usually only found in arcade games.
c068a3 No.14368115
>>14367755
>As long as it is not with our money, good.
Never endorsed the buyfag mentality. Only retards spend money on things they know won't really enjoy. Buy what you want to actually support, instead of being like Mark, who's desperately trying to relive his yiddish youth by buying more and more Nu-tendo shit.
>As for street-shitters, what you described is exactly what they do, no?
Pajeets are competent programmers and technicians on average. They're also a people that openly defecates, bathes in a river that hosts more dead than alive at any given point in the day and whose role in every military conflict was "play all sides at the same time and side with whoever accepts our specific branch of pan-Indianism". That should tell you enough about their psychology: they can't be arsed to be reliable, but they're cheap and work with very little. Inversely, the Chinese meet all the deadlines and finish all the projects and have a hundred thousand scientific papers, yet they all rely on the fact that they can swindle you long enough to get away with it. I've had the unfortunate experience of having to fix a relative's not-Ipad model from a few years ago, the chinks bootleg industry that manufactured it literally taped the electronics with…duct tape.
f016e7 No.14368129
>>14364147
>On a console you can see the graphic evolve over the time of a generation, as the developer become more experienced with the hardware.
That hasn't been true for years, and it's certainly not true with current year consoles all being slightly modded x86 pcs running standardised APIs. It's not like the PSX where you had a huge leap in graphics between FF7 and FF9. Console games today just walk a balance between competetive graphics fidelity, cost, and hardware shortcomings are made up for by dropping the frame-rate, tweaking settings down, and rendering tricks to lighten the hardware load. It's has nothing to do with "learning the system". These machines are explicitly designed so you don't have to waste R&D learning them - to the end goal of making software as simple as possible to port and leveraging that to court/secure third party support.
PS3 and it's cell processor is probably the last you'll see of custom designed hardware in consoles.
cfea98 No.14368174
>>14368089
>I shared Hentai in the navy
Kek
f016e7 No.14368205
>>14368089
>I shared anime, manga, and hentai with a good amount of people on my ship in the navy. This is what happens when normalfags all have interest in the same shit. Same music, porn, movies, and books. In a few months everyone had the same shit and burned through them. Meanwhile I had all this "bizarre" stuff they never seen or wanted to get into.
Back in the old days, when they got bored of vanilla shit, they used to just start fucking each other in the butt until they got to port and were able to cut loose.
I assume that's how sailors got their reputation for bawdyness. Months of boredom, hornieness, and autism induced by being trapped on a small floating prison, away from society, with only a handful of the same peopleday after day.
7d4c99 No.14368305
>>14367894
Deal with it.
>>14368115
About buying: the thing with entertainment is that it can become an addiction, easily exploited by companies. On top of that, the last decade proved (again, mind you) that when entertainers are given money and get a following, they turn into (or reveal themselves as) leftist that want to indoctrinate as many people as they can, while also scamming everyone and delivering less and less quality products, while also actively being vengeful against their own customers.
All of this was possible because they received support from customers in the first lace.
Take away any means to support them, while still deceiving some to make them work (young entertainers are easier to deceive, given that they want to show off), and you have good scenario for those that just want to have fun without anything or anyone compromising the quality of the entertainment that they consume.
As for street-shitters vs yellow midgets: no amount of costs that you cut is worth having back-stabbers that also don't know how to fix a problem. They can create and program, but that is it.
You can see many companies that are having constant leaked information and overall "blackouts" of their services as a result of having hired street-shitters.
It is "the cheap that ends up expensive".
>>14368129
And that made their games look like the same.
Without clearly distinguishable visuals from one machine to the other, there is no point in having a dedicated machine for games, that also amounts to be a DRM box nowadays.
>>14368205
Navy is a school for communism then?
388fba No.14368461
How is the Xbox One as a multimedia device? If I get one, I'll likely be streaming content to it.
cfea98 No.14368500
>>14368305
Kill yourself
>>14368461
Why would you buy that garbage instead of a dedicated device that's considerably cheaper?
388fba No.14368753
>>14368500
The dedicated device can't play games.
e1c20c No.14368802
>>14367894
>R U FO' REAL IMMA SMART MUH NIGGAZ
The original concept of the xbone had a design. Cloud computing and kinect should have given the edge over the competition, and since they are services and hardware exclusive to microsoft, they wouldn't had the need to invest is first party exclusives because multiplat games would have been enhanced for xbome. Investors got scared of the internet raging mob and microsoft had to change the project last minute, fucking everything up.
And do i really have to tell you that normies would have jumped in? Me:a and battlefront 2 did not meet expectations, but they still made a profit, retard. Come back on this site when you are at least sixteen.
cfea98 No.14368835
>>14368802
>Cloud computing can totally replace actual hardware performance
>The Kinect would totally force third parties to make Kinect related garbage to it even though that only happened with the Wii because the Wiimotes were the standart inputs and they were literally forced to do it unlike the Xbone which has a standart gamepad
>Multiplats would totally be enhanced by the Power of the Clouf and the Kinect, just like the original Kinect and the XboneOneX are
>Changing a console to not be kiked was bad
>Battlefront 2 made a profit, that's totally a success for the thousands of EA investors not seeing their moneys worth and the game being 60% off after 4 months
>Defending Always Online
>Normies
Go back to >>>/cuckchan/ where you belong you lobotomized drone shill.
1e54f7 No.14368864
>>14368089
>Didn't you hear goy? That seed you're using has a copyright on its DNA so you can't harvest your seeds yourself!
That has actually happened by the way.
d71044 No.14368918
>>14368802
>muh cloud computing
Sucks for players with crappy internet or offline play, but you'll handwave it as usual because everyone should live in a large city and only poorfags lack eurofag-tier internet.
8a38ec No.14368945
>>14368129
The real problem is that devs hardly bother with optimization anymore. There's no reason that something like Fallout 4 should run at sub-30 FPS.
cfea98 No.14368951
>>14368918
>Be eurofag
>Have top tier internet which makes me download 100GB games in half a day
>Still don't want anything to do with this kike bullshit
I still can't believe there are still people subhumans shilling for this, at this point in time where retrospect only makes that move seem even worse.
7d4c99 No.14368960
>>14368500
Deal with it.
>>14368802
And Gamers don't want that.
Your empty hopes don't align with reality.
Any product or service must be good for the consumers first.
When consumers disagreed, it failed.
Want something to succeed? Give what consumers want, and never force anything that the consumers hate.
Cloud computing and kinect? We don't want it. And we are in charge. Not the shareholders.
cfea98 No.14368963
885f8a No.14369586
To be honest, this all is more because consoles as a type of gaming device are dying off.
They were obsolete for at least a decade, but now they are on the road to their death.
Xbone got no exclusives and is shit, so obviously it is dying off first.
PS4 is also shite, but it has a small amount of exclusives/timed exclusives that hold it for now. I don't think we will see anything from Sony after PS5, they barely managed with PS4
Switch is a nice idea, and I think this is where the mainstream gayming will move to for a while, since mobage are usually shit, and Switch is basically a non-shit mobile device that you can also attach to a TV.
f2d54b No.14369609
>>14369586
>Ps4 massive success.
>Wii sold over 100 million units.
>Switch fastest selling console in US history.
>Consoles dying off.
http://fortune.com/2018/01/04/nintendo-switch-sets-sales-record/
b8cf95 No.14369613
>>14369586
As long as people buy Japanese games, there will be a demand for consoles.
039e21 No.14369643
>>14369609
The PS4 is also a Japanese device. The Japanese literally still have arcades, for fuck's sake.
de38f2 No.14369664
>>14369586
Don't forget also death of local multiplayer, paid online, a lot of games requiring installation and pretty much anything worthwhile being multiplatform.
7d4c99 No.14369900
>>14368963
Deal with it.
>>14369586
Correct.
The industry had a kind of "ecosystem" during the 90s, with arcades, consoles, PC and handhelds, all existing together and all with a different approach to their games, that delivered different experiences.
The moment that the industry decided to not take risks and make everything similar and interchangeable, it was the moment that started the death any dedicated machine.
Add to that the fact that more and more people get used to having everything in one single machine, and you have an increase in the speed which people will turn their backs on multiple devices and adopt one that runs all (or most of) things, games included.
>>14369609
Wii sold well and it was rapidly abandoned, to the point that it's successor wasn't able to garner enough interest.
Switch is selling fast? Good for Nintendo only.
What about the games? What about public interest in it?
Consoles are dying as there is less and less reason to own one, and even the ones that have exclusives are becoming unworthy, as the prices are too high for too few good games.
>>14369643
Japan is moving towards mobile and gatcha. And there is even some Gamers adopting PC over there. The bulk of profits for consoles come from the west. Consoles may last longer there, or become like arcades and have a constant space for them that does not grow but does not disappear. But companies are already moving away from them even in Japan, that is for sure. You can see this happening little by little.
447361 No.14369943
>>14358925
>what is opensuse
>what is any other distro that companies use to set up their servers
>what is centos and any other distros that universities and companies use for CAE
cfea98 No.14370000
>>14369609
Not only have 8th Gen consoles sold less than 7th Gen as a whole from all 3 publishers but it's still well below 7th Gen as a whole even with 9th Gen Switch sales.
Consoles as they are are dying mate, normalfag casuals fucking off to mobiles and more hobbyist types sticking to PC which has gotten mainstream success and the Xbone and WiiU failing has seen them sell less as a whole.
The only amount of success they've seen is thag unlike 7th Gen they were sold at a profit from the very start.
00c614 No.14370205
>>14356901
Ah, that KMFMS pic. How nostalgic.
81de94 No.14370405
>>14368205
Things are much different today. Even far out at sea people can access Facebook and other websites. Porn is not allowed on the ship but it's never enforced and everyone has some on their HDDs. With access to handhelds, social media, and devices that can store 100k books, I don't see how people can get so bored. Yet we still have retards doing stupid shit and ruining everything for everyone.
>>14368864
I know. It has the be the most kike thing I have seen on the planet.
>>14369900
I really don't want the Switch to be considered the only "handheld" (it's definitely not as much as a tablet isn't a handheld) and Sony to not make a successor to the Vita. A lot of smaller devs are able to make riskier, low budget games on handhelds unlike bigger games where they have to play it safer.
fcb73e No.14370744
>>14367755
>Nothing wrong with enslaving entertainers and having entertainment always for free.
Except the fact the entertainment will be shit and anyone with any form of intelligence, aka the quality entertainers, wouldn't step foot near it. But then again I'm talking to someone who's basically taking the proven failed theory of communism and applying it to entertainment.
7d4c99 No.14370766
>>14370405
The problem is that a lot of them are deluding themselves with VR now.
When they realize their mistake, it may be too late.
>>14370744
You underestimate young autists that use escapism as means to produce good entertainment. There is always young people that can be lead to that path and be kept there until they die.
Also, about it becoming shit, it is not guaranteed to What IS guaranteed shit is the current state of the industry. Anything goes to make the current situation improve. At the expense of others that aren't the customers, of course.
81de94 No.14370991
>>14370766
The retarded news media may call the Switch a handheld all they want but anyone who has ever touched a handheld before obviously realizes why it's not considered one. Nintendo announced that they're leaving the handheld market and the Vita is still doing well in Japan. Sony could dominate the market (though there should always be competition) as they already have most of the console market with the PS4.
The main reason so many avoided the Vita was the memory card prices and the fact the Vita didn't even come with one to make up for the fact that it barely has anything to store data in. Sony didn't even bother lowering the prices to match other micro SDs on the market and got burned for it.
8a38ec No.14371000
>>14370405
>a tablet isn't a handheld
You're the retard.
761e1d No.14371195
>>14355182
I have an Xbone. I like it. It gets pretty much most of everything the PS4 is gets, it has the best controller and it's backwards compatible. I think instead of focusing on raw power and more exclusives, the brand could make a comeback.
04cf1e No.14371237
>>14371195
>He's this delusional
I'm so sorry, anon.
2e8e49 No.14371267
>>14371195
Cut your losses and trade it in. The exclusive section of the library will not improve.
761e1d No.14371286
>>14371267
What the fuck is that creature on the right suppose to be!?
2e8e49 No.14371352
>>14371286
It's also worth noting that many of the Boner's upcoming exclusives are only 'console exclusives'; games that PC has had or will have, further driving home the fact that there is no reason to own this stillborn hunk of plastic.
5e2d9c No.14371359
>>14371267
>Zombie shit
>Nigs of war shit
>Transexual overwatch clone?
3d9343 No.14371435
>>14371267
Please don't tell me that the one on the far right is from the new pirate ship game that was streamed on twitch a couple weeks ago.
7d4c99 No.14372933
>>14370991
I personally prefer it this way.
Vita having a some kind of underground market, with technical support coming only from enthusiasts and games coming from small but competent studios.
It had produced way better games than the corporate run industry.
If Sony steps in again, it is guaranteed to ruin it in some way.
As for the Switch, it was never a handheld. And it began to absorb the industry's policy of "everything must be the same and have the same games", so it will probably be the last truly dedicated device for unique games.
>>14371286
A typical shitskin: a deformed animal.
31ccde No.14373175
>>14371359
Sea of Thieves, that crappy nu-rare pirate game, but that's also on PC.
7d4c99 No.14373763
>>14373175
As if the Rare corpse wasn't rotting enough.
The Golden Rule always applies: check for WHO makes a game. Not what brand name it is released upon.
388fba No.14373772
>>14372933
>small but competent studios.
Ehh, some more than others. The third party studios were definitely less sleazy, though. DLC didn't run amok on the Vita.
>>14371195
I am, in part, considering getting an Xbox One as a 360 replacement. I'm waiting for better support, though. I can only play half of my games.
7d4c99 No.14373906
>>14373772
Vita being almost immune to DLC is one of it's strong points.
As for the incompetent studios, there will always be some.
But as long as everything is run by enthusiasts and not by corporate suits, it is still better than what we have with consoles.
I would advise you to not buy a X Bone, and instead, save money for a high end PC to pirate the games that yo want from the console. Most are released on PC. And emulation is always a possibility sometime later.
e57ad8 No.14374217
>>14359954
The leadership at Xbox was retarded and the console was rushed. It looked like shit, it lacked power (which they could have been made up with losing profits which they could afford as Microsoft, not the same to Sony) they focused on retarded features like Kinect, it cost too much and TEEVEE SPORTS. They have been trying to pick it off the ground now and are doing a pretty good job at it, but aside from lower price for Xbox One S compared to PS4 and better performance on Xbox One X for some games there's little reason to get one. Doubly so for PC gamers since Windows 10 will have all Xbox exclusives because of the Xbox Play Anywhere thing they are doing which I think is a big mistake and lowers Xbox brand value.
I'm honestly considering getting one for console exclusives and because I know I wouldn't have to upgrade it for at least 2 years as compared to my PC, especially with the current RAM and GPU shortages.
e57ad8 No.14374244
>>14361353
Could be a valid excuse, and I don't think that reason has ever even been a official response by Bethsoft.
1e54f7 No.14374633
>>14374217
Needs a nintendo switch in that picture.
648a66 No.14374957
>>14363730
Void is hardly on the radar compared to many of the compromised distros. The war was more or less over when the major projects rolled over for it, and those are increasingly including intrusive "features" independently of Potthead's influence.
>>14363960
They had a link to acquire Microsoft Word bundled into the distribution. It's not on there physically to the best of my knowledge by default but it is rather sketchy to say the least.
19b150 No.14375045
>>14373772
>DLC didn't run amok on the Vita.
>>14373906
>Vita being almost immune to DLC
Are we talking about the same Vita here? I passed on 95% of the interesting games on the platform because they had paid DLC. Did I stumble into a different universe here?
b2148e No.14375063
>>14355182
Xbox doesn't have the autism crowd that Nintendo and Playstation boast.
9ec3b7 No.14375068
>>14374957
>They had a link to acquire Microsoft Word bundled into the distribution. It's not on there physically to the best of my knowledge by default but it is rather sketchy to say the least.
Weird, I can't find anything like that on mine, then again I have not checked what's going on with their team of late.
ae454d No.14375099
I for one welcome next year's E2 conference.
648a66 No.14375146
>>14375068
It was a recent development, but it certainly raised a few eyebrows.
15eb1d No.14375173
I don't want to defend the Xbox One X I don't even fucking own one nor would I ever in my life but supposedly there is a way to run homebrew applications on it out of the box without any mods whatsoever and the only catch is that the applications are sandboxed. Microsoft basically allowed anyone to enable dev mode. So I'll give them credit for that, it's too little too late though and I can't see that saving it
9ec3b7 No.14375363
>>14375146
I looked a bit further into it. I still have to suss out more detail on it but unless I misunderstand it, it might be related to the 'open file with, and or something to do with a possible chromebooks crossover.
https://forum.manjaro.org/t/microsoft-office-with-manjaro-17-1/36102/25
>philmManjaro Team
>Dec '17
>ms-office-online uses the JAK framework10 for web-applications. No browser is used for it. If you find issues with it, you may report to me or @codesardine directly. Also we use it without libreoffice in our basic edition. Final release will always be the fat edition with libre office installed by default.
Again, I still have to look further into it and what it really means.
5d9853 No.14375528
>>14368461
I would get something dedicated for gaming aka a low end pc or a PS4 and a raspberryPi as a mediacenter.
ba594e No.14375640
5e799e No.14375651
>>14368461
Why not just use a cheap laptop that can do the job just as well?
388fba No.14375773
>>14373906
It wasn't really immune. Publishers were just less shitty. There was still on-cartridge DLC in some cases.
>>14375045
Not to the point where blatantly unfinished games were commonly released with DLC to compensate for the lack of content.
>>14375173
That's interesting. I might look into that.
cfea98 No.14375786
>>14374217
>I'm considering getting a Bone
This board has gone to the shitter
It's no longer redemeable, nothing but cuckchan shills and retards now.
cc365a No.14375788
>>14355182
>So whats happened to the Xbox?
Nothing, that's why it didn't go anywhere. It wasn't advanced enough to outperform the PC and it wasn't niche enough to outsell the PS4/Switch.
770f52 No.14377495
>>14355182
They have completely ruined Halo many times over. Therefore I have no interest in anything they put out anymore.
2ed867 No.14377541
What really killed the XBOne was the Kinect and the fact that Microsoft pushed Malware as the console's operating system and they got called out on it. It was doomed from Day 1.
761e1d No.14377914
>>14371359
At least Nigs of War will have OLd Spice man as the main character.
77b539 No.14378197
>>14377914
I still do not get the appeal of this negro, or any negro for that matter.
00385e No.14378217
>>14355205
>The Switch is set to overtake the Xbone this year, I think.
how embarrassing
41184d No.14378237
>>14378197
He's pretty charismatic in roles that AREN'T the old spice guy. But for normalfags it's mostly "LOL OLD SPICE AMIRITE I RECOGNIZE THAT"
72f24b No.14378239
>>14367108
You are a completely worthless motherfucker.
72f24b No.14378259
>>14367108
Also, PC Gaming has gotten to the point that graphical updates are basically done. A top of the line gaming pc built in 2002 would be nearly obsolete by 2008. Meanwhile, a top of the line pc built in 2012 is still, barely, but still able to play nearly everything coming out on the market. A 3000$ PC built right now will be excellent in 2025.
So PC Gaming is back, because it can now compete in longevity with consoles. Hell, the consoles now were beaten in terms of RAM by 400$ Labtops in the very same year.
Today, right now, a 350$ Labtop can give you everything the PS4 and Xbone have to offer and more. A 500$ PC with only half assed gaming capabilities will blow them out of the water. You can literally spend the same money on a fucking labtop and get a superior gaming experience.
It it weren't for artificial limitations, the larger tablets would already be competitive in terms of power.
72f24b No.14378272
>>14366764
And Halo Wars wasn't even that bad for what it was.
72f24b No.14378288
>>14367755
>Everybody just left, as we wanted video games and nothing else
And the shittiest part is that Netlfix and such are purely software addons, they dont take up much space. The entire system could have been dedicated to pure gaming, with a half dozen apps as extra. As a side effect. I mean lets be honest, people have been using their gaming systems for music since the PSone, and for movies since the PS2/Xbox.
There was no reason for the Xbone to be such a shitshow, or for either console to be so underpowered.
ae1efa No.14378788
512d11 No.14379066
>>14371267
>bugmen, niggers and lipstick wearing gaynigger trannies
Is this the year of the One?
e1c20c No.14379341
>>14371267
Crackdown 3 has been "coming exclusive" of 2016, 2017 and now 2018.
By now it will have all kind of lootboxes, black tokens and political agendas.
It's going to flop so hard.
72f24b No.14379871
>>14379341
>black tokens
Nah, blacks have been the main character since game one.
7d4c99 No.14380171
>>14377914
Nothing. Masses were brainwashed into accepting apes as if they were People.
>>14378288
That was the problem. Microshit approached the console as a multimedia device first, instead of a gaming device. The thing is, it was always a game device first. so if they wanted a multimedia one, they should have presented it under a different name. Then, they would still lose the X Box 360 fanbase's interest. They simply chose the wrong path, and bet on a failed option.
They wanted to move away from games but at the same time they wanted to keep the Gamers that were the customers for the X Box brand. No one can have both. You either present a new gaming device, or Gamers will move away from it.
I still suspect that Don Matrick was a saboteur, by the way that he presented the X Bone, but Microshit surely had their part in those shitty decisions as well.
>>14379871
The correct term is apes, anon. Or niggers if you want to be polite.