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>>14234670

We should go pirate unless we're somehow taking over a normie server in which case we would probably need the legit game which a few aren't willing to buy including me.

>>14234704

Nice village pic. Buulding small 4x4 tile houses with a steep mountain climb might be comfy and safe, another idea is to build it like Gran Soren castle in Dragon's Dogma. Have an extra inner wall for the public castle, at the edge of the cliff and the highest point.

>>14234704

>>14234670

Just saw it now.

We should gas all disagreementfags.

>>14234670

Just want to give my complete support for that sexy map.

It's good.

Use it.

Also, anything sub 5x5 is cancer.

>>14234704

disagreement is nice in a way, since it helps keep track of actual players, vs just interested ideafags who don't really play.

Threads like these are plagued with those, when it comes to "server soon " type jazz.

What do people think of the following changes?

-increasing the action queue, 1 action per ~4 mind logic instead of per 10

-improving sleep bonus, improving the rate at which you gain from the default 1/24 ratio, maybe increasing the max too

-increasing the number of affinities you naturally gain and/or the effectiveness

-removing the random delay from cooking, normally it only cooks once it gets up to temp AND passes a random check

-making it so you can ride chairs around, they're considered vehicles but they have their speed set to 0

let it die already, this will stay up with 4 whiny autists for a month and then die like all of the others

>>14235194

As far as that goes, sure, it'd be better to use something else. I used to quite like Skype, personally. I'm not really big o n the whole 'muh privacy' thing, since I am too stupid to keep track of it. But, if you want to start a Wurm lot on, say, AOL Messanger, that's cool too.

>>14235199

I gave the last server a miss after an abortive start but am now sort of hankering to give it another whirl in spite of knowing it'll probably get a stack of players at the start then wind up a ghost town(s) again. I miss my old jewing hut.

One eternal problem is PVP and PVE people, there's *always* a divide within the settlements about which people want, comfy or deus vault and there's no satisfying enough way to solve it even with HotS unless you set up a contrived rivalry between two camps, which then promptly descends into shit because one side starts losing or doesn't even get off the ground and so haemorrhages players to the other side(s) until it ends up as one settlement with the aforementioned PVE/PVP divide.

>>14235534

PVE is better by simple virtue of avoiding the ghost town problem for longer.

So I've been going through the mods on the official forums and trying to find ones that work and those that don't.

Sometime soon I'll have a list worked out.

holy fuck these client side mods

>>14235558

I also prefer PVE, the struggle to get going is enough grief to tackle and I like seeing shit getting built around me while I'm eternally imping and listening to podcasts.

>>14235787

The ideal of course would be to find an existent pirate server with tolerable settings, a slew of twee normalfag players and a lax overboss who didn't mind the odd cobblestone swastika on their map but diamonds like that appear to have vanished.

>>14235865

hello rato

>>14235534

I don't understand why there can't be both.

If we have some fag DMing it'll give everyone something to do PVE wise in between PvP bouts. I expect next run will have more active PvP than Brohan but I can't imagine it'll be the sole focus.

You can be comfy by supplying a war effort. It's the same effect you'd have in a PVE server, except now there's more shit to do. Siege engines, FS, armories/training grounds, first aid… priests become more useful. If one faction gets crushed then the PvE shit can continue, which is exactly what happened on Brohan although there wasn't nearly as much gusto behind it due to burn out. We still got together afterwards to tackle uniques and shit, and the black dragon tomb event the admin(s) put on.

I don't particularly like the anxiety of PvPing in this game but it was still sick to have that as an overarching goal. Byaliruth's Spine and the Fort, Big Bridge, hell horses and armor for them, archery being taken seriously, getting every bit of speed out of our carts… none of this shit would have really happened if we didn't have PvP.

PvP just adds more roles to a village. There was plenty of dudes who weren't active in PvP and instead it was just a core of PvP nerds against other PvP nerds.

>>14235594

>holy fuck these client side mods

What about them?

>>14236177

You'll see when I release this list I'm working on.

About halfway done so far.

>>14234686

>We should go pirate

That seems to be the unanimous preference. But then we'd need somehow who'd know how to throw a pirate server together and keep it from imploding.

>>14234704

>Shitcord makes no sense

I'm not advocating it, it's just there if the rare event should happen that the server goes down and 8ch isn't available for whatever reason. I'm not going to be left going to cuckchan to find out what new horror has unfolded. Discshit > Cuckchan.

>>14235002

One thing to consider on changes: would a change make the game simply easier, or would a change ruin the whole autistic drive certain autists have for grinding certain autistic jobs?

>ride chairs

Like >>14235194 said, muh immersion.

>>14235534

>One eternal problem is PVP and PVE people, there's *always* a divide within the settlements about which people want, comfy or deus vault

Having played Broschwitz, I enjoyed the asshurt and conflict of PvP elements. If anything, I imagine it would help boost town drive and player interest in playing the game. Anybody who was there to enjoy what-was-that-sperg losing his shit over the easter egg hunt of finding his looted corpse knows that there's an appeal in buggering other players. Everything >>14236031 says is on point, imo.

>>14236031

I think our best choice if it's a pvp serb is to ensure either halfchan or plebbit is involved maybe both if the serb can handle 3 groups doing autistic things . I rememeber asking last thread and one of the hosts pointed out the only big drains are the mobs, map size (which I assumed was tied to one another) and ensuring the thing the serb has regular restarts to ensure memory leaks and the like are stopped before they kill the serb. That would be, I think the ideal situation, as we can have an 8/v/ badmin and then have representatives that speak for the normalfags from the other faction/factions.

>>14235904

You know if we could make all furniture like that it'd make placement a lot easier. I fucking hate the push and pull crap.

>>14236273

>I fucking hate the push and pull crap.

For something that might make sense with crates, it's a retarded feature for small items. Putting down a rug or a jar exactly where you want it shouldn't take twenty minutes of finagling. There's a few things that really need to be resolved with this game. At this point, all that Rolf needs to be inserting are a greater variety of options for tailoring and the ability to wear hats without your character going bald for literally no reason. It'd be nice to also be able to plan a structure in-game without relying on a secondary program to make sure you won't regret putting down that wall which, should you regret, knocking it down doesn't mean losing the resources you put together for it. That's one more pet peeve with this game, knocking something down doesn't get you even a fraction of everything you put into setting it up.

Alright after 3+ hours I have finally got the mod lists.

Warning these may be long but they are the best at editing the shit wurmonline forums as I could do. I hope the next serverfag has the patience to look through these. If someone sees something that needs to be fixed or removed, please let me know in this thread.

Server-side:

https://pastebin.com/ZPyPARRs

Advanced:

https://pastebin.com/mCXfj1U4

Client-side:

https://pastebin.com/mD2nJVgf

Well since we have little else to talk about at the moment, any takers on particular jobs? Was kind of hoping to get into tailoring again, myself

>>14237487

Well our villages never get outside the hobo stage where the locals double up as the military force in the form of a militia, it would be nice to be a designated soldier. But I guess we'd need more autism, numbers and a server with normies to wage war against. I think the closest it ever got to was the original brosmouth where kriegerr made our gear and rallied our troops.

>>14237487

As always, main farming and assist on tailoring/treehugging/road autism.

>>14237521

Combat's the one thing I try to avoid with the game. Lads can go out deus vaulting it up, I'll be good staying in town with busywork.

>>14237521

I'm hoping that people will agree on how many other factions (may as well just call them sites at this point) that we'll have in, that way we can have people who can be trained as soldiers exclusively. That being said, I'm expecting to at least specialize in two or so life skills (probably just for building my own house among a few other things) and then a weapon and fighting style. Basically while we'd have people like you dedicated to helping take out a town/village, we'd probably rally as many people into a militia as possible, and sending everyone out to do so. Every autist doubles as a merciless pillager and looter

>>14237487

me friend wants me to not be a terraforma like I always do because I burn my self out on the game like that but no other job actually interests me though

>>14237554

Maybe minor assistance with other terraformers and but mainly specializing in stone crafting? That way you can lovingly place statues in our village and as a humorous mockery in the enemy village after a successful pillaging just have someone lug the thing in a cart, and then place it in their town square.

>>14237569

>tfw the cooking update has denied us further advances in heavy cake warfare

>>14237487

I'm probably going to default to my usual elf/dorf hybrid.

>>14237569

while stone crafting is important, it's also massively boring because if I specialize in that I'd also need to specialize in mining

>>14237576

>you will never create a fruitcake warhammer to pound half/v/ into unrecognizable dough

>you will never leave cakes made with love and deadly poison with extra nails in the houses of plebbitors

>you will never pour hot dough over invaders to repel an attack and then leave the cake battered corpses in front of the village as a warning

Why even live

>>14237588

Fair enough, Hitler. I wasnt sure what you'd want to go for and just took a guess. I hope you do find something enjoyable though, the last thing I want is people burning out too quickly on top of doing shit they hate.

>>14237653

I'd like mining alot more if you could actually do more with it

>>14237487

Discussing what you'd like to do when the serb comes is fine this way we can get an idea more or less of what to expect,but i hope this is just to have something to talk about rather then some kind of "reserving" of jobs for when the serb comes.

That being said,i really don't know,ended going more or less the combat route last time along with just assisting anyway else i could mostly digging and some mining think i might pick up an actual trade this time,no idea on what,everything except mining is pretty comfy,maybe eat into the cook's profession and focus on farming and making drinks?Perhaps alchemy or boatmaking since those 2 tend to lack a dedicated player alchemy or in the case of boatmaking proves to be too much for some.

I feel like being an apprentice for a craftsman might be nice and efficient.

>>14236579

Map/dungeon/whateverfag here, thanks for making this, I already compiled a bunch of mods I personally thought were good though. A lot of the ones you listed either don't work with the current version or need to be built manually, but here's what I have so far:

>Armoury

Lets you tweak basically everything about combat stats. I used it to make a lot of changes but TL;DR:

<Armor:

>All creatures can now crit all creatures, the bug with armor limits showing up all the time is fixed now.

>All armor is buffed but lower tiers are buffed more, so that they're more viable compared to plate, but plate still has the highest DR of normal armor of course. Unique helmets now have higher damage reduction.

>Studded armor now gives 20% boost to Archery/Spells and Chain gives -10% (used to be 0% and -15%). Drake Armor now gives 20% boost rather than -30% reduction to archery/spells, Dragonscale gives -10% rather than -30%.

<Weapons:

>Minimum attack interval reduced from 3 seconds to half a second. Rare items now reduce time between attacks by .4 seconds per tier (so a Fantastic item gets 1.2 seconds shaved off its attack cooldown)

>Dual Wielding is simplified, now it's just your one hand is half as fast as the other hand.

>Scythe damage and speed buffed, combat penalty is now low so you can feasibly use it as a weapon option

>Sickle combat penalty lowered. (It was actually a shit weapon before, don't believe the wiki)

>Halberd, Long Spear, Steel Spear, and Steel Staff all have their damage buffed a bit

>Shortsword damage slightly buffed

>Large Axe damage buffed

>Longsword damage slightly buffed

>All mauls have their damage slightly increased, Small Maul is faster

>Two-handed Sword and Large Axe damage buffed

>Small Axe can now parry and crit and doesn't give a penalty

>Huge Shod Club no longer gives a penalty when using it, so Clubs is maybe no longer a complete joke skill

>Legs now have a very small chance to crit (in case you kick the enemy in just the right spot)

>Butcher Knife, Carving Knife, and Sacrificial Knife are now in their own class of weapons. Their combat penalties have been reduced to the level of a Scythe. They attack very quickly and are cheap to make, but their damage is not very high. The Butcher Knife has slightly higher base damage but is slightly slower. The Carving Knife has slightly lower damage but is as fast as using your hands, and has a good chance to crit. The Sacrifical Knife has the damage of the Butcher Knife but is slightly slower, however it can parry unlike the other knives.

(Let me know what you think about all that above)

>BetterCombatLog

>BetterDig

>BetterFarm

Configured so you can harvest/farm/etc. an additional 1 radius around you at 70 Farming, and 2 radius at 90 Farming.

>CaveDwellingsTweaksMod

(sadly doesn't work)

>CreatureAgeMod

Made it so creatures that are adolescent or younger age faster until they're adults.

>CustomNPC

Will probably use for dungeon stuff, but it's updated regularly so we'll have to see where it goes.

>FixGuards

>HarvestHelper

Lets you harvest while mounted/riding a cart, check which season it is in-game, and see what's going to in season.

>HitchingPost

>HitchLimits

Working on tweaking this now, but basically I want players to be able to hitch cats and giant rats and shit to carts if they want to, even if it's slow.

>HttpServer

>InbreedWarning

>MoveMod

Max carry weight increased and slowing thresholds increased to 40%, 60%, and 100% of max weight. (used to be like 30, 50, and 100 I think) Player and Creature speed both increased by 10% (not including mounts). Some hostile mobs are now slightly faster. All dragons are significantly faster. Vehicles can now be loaded from slightly further away.

>>14237840

cont'

>MovetoCenter

Move to Center is now an option in vanilla but this still adds Move to Corner.

>ScriptRunner

>ServerFixes

>ServerMap

>ServerPacks

>ServerPlayerCounter

This fixes the player counter so it actually shows everyone.

>ServerTweaks

Traders are immortal (fixes exploit). BL and WL priests may now cast positive spells on each other. Players with less than 65 FS, 30 Body Str or Stam, or Priesthood for any god can no longer gain hide/scales from a dragon just from standing around during a fight. Fatigue no longer exists. The "incorrect password" error should probably be fixed now if you try to log in to your account from another computer.

>SetHeight

>SkillGainControl

Characteristics no longer become basically impossible to level after 31. Normally there's a soft cap that cuts characteristic gain to 10% after level 31. Other than that the rate of gain should be the same as without the mod.

>Spellcraft

Like Armoury but for magic.Lets you rebalance basically everything about spells and priests (except restrictions) TL;DR:

<Faith and Favor:

>Maximum player faith is now 120.

>Favor regen is now smoother, you gain .1 per second instead of 1 per 10 seconds. Channeling skill now increases passive favor regen, and so can the Court Mage titles.

>You can now see spell effects on other creatures, including other players, so you will know why you're being hit with flame wounds or whatever, you can tell which allies have buffs and which don't, and you can see if your spell attack on an enemy was succesful. e.g. [16:52:37] Truehit has been cast on it, so it has combat vision and aiming. [84]

<COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO SPELLS: Not sure why it's in this mod, but there's a feature that lets you tweak the formula for how items take damage based on their QL. In Vanilla, imping an item past 90 QL is basically pointless because it barely matters at all. With this mod, there is an exponential decrease in damage taken by items over item 90QL, to the point that a theoretical >100QL item would take no damage (but that's impossible). However it rewards grinding skills really high or getting valuable reward items with very high QL.

<Spell Changes:

>Holy Crop is buffed to remove negative traits from animals

>Scorn of Libila is now guaranteed to heal two wounds nearby even if it deals no damage, and takes less time to cast, however it costs more favor and is unlocked later.

>Weakness costs more and is unlocked later

>Light of Fo costs more, harder to cast, unlocked later

>Locate Artifact is unlocked at 90 Faith

>Drain Stamina now has a 1 minute cooldown instead of 30 seconds, costs more, and is unlocked later

>Smite unlocked much later

>Humid Drizzle, Light Token, some other innocuous utility spells are cheaper

>Various other small changes

<New spells:

>Harden: For Magranon. Enchant, makes an item take 30% less damage at 100 Power. 40 Faith, 30 Favor

>Phasing: For all gods. Enchant, makes a weapon 30% more likely to ignore shield enemy shield blocks at 100 Power. 60 Faith, 30 Favor

<Removed spells:

>[Deity]'s Demise: These spells are broken and don't do anything, so they're removed.

>Mole Senses: Doesn't function due to how the anticheat mod works.

>Sunder: Too easy to cheese rares with this and it's basically useless for anything else

(give input on the above too, spellfags)

>Spellmod

Currently set so the only change is that you can gain unlimited faith gains per day, however there is still a 20-minute cooldown. Optimally I'd like to make it so Priests can do some really basic things like build but not others, but that's not an option in this or any mod sadly. Would need another custom mod.

>StarterGear

Starter Inventory changed a bit to be more challenging. The player gets a Short Sword instead of a longsword. The QL of all weapons/equipment/tools is reduced. The player gets a Crude Axe, Crude Knife, Crude Shovel, and Crude Pickaxe instead of their normal equivalents to make creating iron tools an actual achievement. The Starter Tent is removed to encourage people to use Inns and homes for storage instead of making refugee camps (tents are shit anyway - they don't set your spawnpoint unless you already have a tower up, by that point you've already made a deed). However the starter Toolbelt is 30ql instead of 20 to make it more useful for anyone brave or stupid enough to not use the Toolbelt mod. Everything else is the same.

>Taxidermy

Lets you turn corpses into trophies. If you spend 10,000 Karma, you can even make them magically animated. This would've been great for the dragon corpses on Brohan.

>TimerFix

>WyvernAntiCheat

Tested and working.

>>14237840

>>14237843

Thank you for the help, I've been spending what time I had today trying to go through the list in more depth.

I'll get right on this after I finish reading it.

>>14237843

What I wish I had:

>A mod that lets me tweak each skill's individual gain rate that actually works on the current version. Pretty sure this doesn't exist.

>A mod that removes the stupid limitations on cave dwellings that the devs added to placate WO carebears (CaveDwellingTweaks is out of date and is missing the ability to construct fences in caves). This is needed for dungeons.

>Updates to WalkerInTheVoid and Ulviirala's mods to make the compatible with the current version, especially BulkMod, MeditateMod, SalveMod, Epic Mission Hints, and Fire Burn Time.

<REALLY REALLY want an updated version of this fucking awesome sounding mod: https://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/topic/157184-released-113-pveplands-treasure-hunting-inspired-by-ultima-online-treasure-maps/& which basically lets you go find treasure maps that lead you on treasure hunts for rare items, these maps could even drop from creatures or just from actions like digging or fishing, etc.

(sorry for text wall)

>>14235002

- The Action Queue change sounds good but I don't think it's possible without a mod, so add that to the wishlist.

- Imo sleep bonus is fine, remember that now having the Fat macronutrient decreases SB use.

- Gaining more affinities sounds good, they actually implemented a system like this in WO where you can get affinities by performing tasks over and over, so basically if you do a ton of mining you can gain a mining affinity, if you do a lot of farming you can gain a farming affinity, and so on. That would be a nice mod, since it makes affinity stealing through PVP more lucrative. Remember there are also temporary affinities given by food now - which can actually last a very long time and if you remember which recipes give what you can make them permanent if you eat right.

- Cooking delay could be removed, I didn't do that much HFC in the new version tbh so I dunno about it

- If their speed were zero you couldn't move, so it'd just be the same as it is now where you can sit in them. If moving things is a pain for you just bind Push to a key.

>>14237843

>>14237840

Honestly a lot of these sound really useful and helpful, and a variance in weapon choices is always great to see in any game. I'm still thinking of starting items though. Are we just going with 10 ql crude tools and a compass? I wouldn't be too bothered by that, personally, right now for the life of me I cant remember what else was used in the starter kit. I'm fine with no tents so an Inn becomes usable for more than our resident cooks, so that would be cool to see. Like I said though, all of those mods sound fine to me, but I don't use spells, so I'd have to let those with experience ring in with those.

>>14237843

>Taxidermy

>Lets you turn corpses into trophies. If you spend 10,000 Karma, you can even make them magically animated. This would've been great for the dragon corpses on Brohan.

That sounds awesome, now I wanna build a museum/zoo to showcase kills.

>>14237843

That's alot to consider,but i'm glad we have someone interested on taking up the mantle,i'll address this more in detail tomorrow,having said that i see no love for shield users,is there a way to give them a slight buff without making sword and board the default better option?For example i believe a shield user is capable of blocking up to twice every combat round,would increasing it to 3 for those who really invest in shield skill be too much or even possible to mod?

>>14237957

It would also really help if we go the pvp route

>kill fags

>load corpses into the corpse boat or meat wagon, items and all

>bring them back to a grand hall

>have resident taxidermist turn them into trophies to decorate a new raid

I'll have to check out the mod later when I'm not being slayed by college work to see if the mod includes pedestals to place the trophies on or if it even works with players

>>14237487

>>14237521

Designated soldiers would be neat if admin(s) orchestrated semi-frequent big bad monster attacks that would take more than everyone whipping out their carving knife to take down.

I went and ground out my fighting skill in Brosmouth/Broschwitz but only really got to leverage it for the good of the town while dragonslaying.

>>14237840

>Studded armor now gives 20% boost to Archery/Spells and Chain gives -10% (used to be 0% and -15%). Drake Armor now gives 20% boost rather than -30% reduction to archery/spells, Dragonscale gives -10% rather than -30%.

Does archery need a buff I thought it was overpowered as it was?

>Scythe damage and speed buffed, combat penalty is now low so you can feasibly use it as a weapon option

Sounds neat

>(Let me know what you think about all that above)

So it seems like combat will go faster and is more deadly.

More weapons to use.

>MoveMod

>Vehicles can now be loaded from slightly further away.

Thank fuck

>WyvernAntiCheat

>Tested and working

But does it lag? The comments make it sound like it would, but maybe that's only if there are 100+ players.Or the hostfags computer sucks

>>14237918

>compass

Not needed anymore due to client mods.

>>14237968

>taxidermied players

OY VEY!

>>14237521

>designated soldiers

I support this but it would depend on how we work our econmic system out. I can see some people not wanting to just give everything they need away. Maybe they could also double up as a miner/hunter to help gather the supplies they need to turn into weapons/armor.

>>14238005

>Maybe they could also double up as a miner/hunter to help gather the supplies they need to turn into weapons/armor.

if monsters dropped parts which could be used to make items that aren't fuds that'd fix this issue up nicely

monster hunter wurm when?

>>14238028

Leather armor

Also you need pelts to imp weapons

>>14237918

The whole starter kit as I have it:

Format: Item Id, QL, Number, Is it a starter item? (Not impable, stays with you after death)

weapon-1=swordShort,20.0,1,true

weapon-2=shieldMediumWood,20.0,1,true

armour-1=leatherGlove,20.0,2,true

armour-2=leatherBoot,20.0,2,true

armour-3=leatherSleeve,20.0,2,true

armour-4=leatherJacket,20.0,1,true

armour-5=leatherCap,20.0,1,true

armour-6=leatherHose,20.0,1,true

armour-7=toolbelt,30.0,1,true

armour-8=backPack,10.0,1,true

item-1=handMirror,20.0,1,false

item-2=flintSteel,50.0,1,true

item-3=bowlPottery,2.0,1,true

item-4=rope,10.0,1,true

item-5=compass,30.0,1,true

item-6=deedStake,30.0,1,true

item-7=crudeAxe,20.0,1,true

item-8=crudeKnife,20.0,1,true

item-9=crudeShovel,20.0,1,true

item-10=saw,10.0,1,true

item-11=crudePickAxe,20.0,1,true

item-12=rake,10.0,1,true

(The handMIrror is just an item that you use upon spawning in to change your appearance, then it disappears before you can even see your inventory. Shouldn't be removed from starter gear or changed at all)

>>14237965

I think you vastly underestimate shields, my friend. They are already the best off-hand option because they are the only way to effectively block arrows. Including from arrow towers. If you are raiding a deed and approaching without a shield, you are a walking pincushion. There's also the unique ability to shield bash which can be useful. Any "nerfs" to shields/buffs to 2h are really just a way of making dual wielding a viable alternative in some cases. To be fair though dual wielding can be nice to maximize damage output for hunting and stuff.

>>14237968

Sadly I'm not sure if taxidermied players will display properly, but if they do that would be hilarious.

>>14238005

I was more trying to buff Studded and Chain and less trying to buff Archery. On second thought maybe Studded is too heavy DR for archers, but realistically why would a melee character ever use studded when Plate/Chain exists, so it ends up being pointless.

>But does it lag? The comments make it sound like it would, but maybe that's only if there are 100+ players.Or the hostfags computer sucks

Did a little testing and it doesn't seem to lag at all, but who knows how far that will hold true, I only tested for a few players at a time. Fwiw the anti-ore xray doesn't cause any lag whatsoever so that can be enabled all the time.

>>14238005

>Not needed anymore due to client mods.

I'd rather give it to people at the start and not assume that they have that mod or want to use it. With the way Wurm mods work, we should be assuming people might connect to the server with no mods at all, or every possible mod.

>>14238028

Dragon scales and drake hides make the best armor in the game.

>>14238079

that's only one set of armour though

>>14238079

I will still continue to shill for a 10QL starter sickle but that list sounds reasonable.

>>14237843

>Locate Artifact is unlocked at 90 Faith

I like all the other changes in that mod but I would hate this.

>>14238103

>>14238079

>10 QL starter sickle

I'll vouch for this as well, then yell at people to cut saplings to plant later so we don't end up looking like the end game of a Captain Planet Supervillain.

>>14238732

>not hoarding all the saplings

I've deforested all the local area, meanwhile my personal house hill is something of a rainforest.

Fear me mortal men.

>>14237843

>Scorn of Libila is now guaranteed to heal two wounds nearby even if it deals no damage

If there isn't a quantifier on the amount of healing done then this is rediculously OP. Messing with other things on the server is fine but you really need to be careful when it comes to tinkering with faith based spells, one wrong step and you'll create an enormous power vacuum that'll only be discovered too late in the servers lifespan to fix.

I got my net disconnected so I probably won't be able to play again, but my advice:

-don't fuck up the server with casulshit settings and fast skillgains

-ban macroing and add some anti-cheat client but also balance shit there's no ridiculous grinds that need macros

>>14237840

wtf is this shit. You don't know half the crap about combat intricacies as you think you do yet you just go ahead with a fuckton of broad sweeping changes. Balance was fine as it was before and and tweaks should be minor and only done hesitantly after a lot of discussion. I could go over all these changes you've made but suffice to say you've fucked up the meta and well enough should be left along.

t. 99 fletching anon whatever my pseudonym was

>>14239888

I'm talking about crap like praying that took like a year to get to max level because you could only pray every 2 hours or whatever

Grinding is an integral game feature that creates a game and economy characterised by scarcity, exclusivity, and specialisation. If you don't have these elements you have nothing to work towards, you have no sense of achievement or hierarchy, and no reason to play the game besides a few end-game things. If you don't like grinding you don't like Wurm, so there's no point in trying to compromise with people who don't like the central aspect of the game. Getting to level 50 should be hard and getting like level 70 should take a lot of dedication over a long period of time.

>>14239876

Serb is not gonna happen for a while this is all discussion still on map/serb settings so perhaps until then shit will figure itself out for ya.

I see no sugestions he gives that would decrease/increase grind only see potential changes that could be done that would expand on viable choices for combat,give additional perks at higher skill levels and more utility/slight buff to some priests.

If you're worried about:

>Unlimited faith gains per day but only once every 20 mins

This was already the case in Brohan,if you're worried about priests becoming too good,don't,it's very unlikely we'll be able to remove some restrictions to priests like it was on Brohan,so these buffs will entail if they are applied at all still being restricted off everything a priest can't do normally.

Only real thing i might have a problem with is Armor bonuses for Archery which if you are who i think you are Wyrda that you faggot? you know just how strong archery can be,specifically talking about Cart Archery,that's straight up too strong compared to everything else in my opinion.

Your concerns that Skill rates will be too high is shared,for reference Brohan had 4x skill and timer rates,along with 10% increased skill gain in FS,i've seen sugestions along the line of 1x/1x crazy people up to keeping the same rates we had on Brohan,personally i'd like it if they were 2x/3x on skill with 3x/4x on timer.

>>14239975

This is my main problem with Wurm Unlimited. Every time someone starts a new server and people start from scratch, and then people get bored and quit, back to square 1. I still have my old wurm account, it's probably around 10 years old at this point. Once in a while, I resubscribe and join some /v/ town on one of the official servers. All my skills are still with me, all my items (the ones that I had on me when I last logged out for a long period) are on me. Yes, that makes it unfair for those people from /v/ who start playing later than me. But guess what? Tough luck, faggot, I earned that 80 digging, go dig 20 thousand dirt yourself.

>>14240040

I think everyone is aware of this problem,and most are fine with it i believe.

It's a matter of getting the balance between having to grind your eyes out while still making progression feasible in the time that the serb lasts,we're off to a good start with a dedicated map in the works and someone willing to DM to provide a more active Wurm world.

>>14240032

Just because we had the best bows, arrows, armour, horses, skills, and tactics against incompetent enemies doesn't mean that archer is OP. with plate armour and a shield you're basically invulnerable to arrows from the front, it's just that we had tactical superiority so that's why we dominated them.

These changes are retarded, it's basically "lol I'm going to balance the weapons by buffing the damage of 90% of them xD". Most of the time, changes to weapon balance are arbitrary and shouldn't be contingent upon one random fucker's opinion, or for that matter, a bunch of salty plebs who don't know how to deal with certain tactics or weapons. He also fucked up armour balance by making you able to carry a shitload and be at full speed (optimise your inventory OR FUCKING TRAIN BODY YOU PLEB if you want to be fast), making leather armour completely irrelevant, and making it so you can be an uber-archer character in dragon scale. The only thing that needs to be changed is the archery penalty in dragon hide.

Real balance changes are shit like:

-stopping people from macroing, which can pretty much destroy the game if people abuse it

-stopping people from having alts, because they fuck up the meta by making it mandatory to have a combat character and a crafting character, and penalises you if you just want one character that does everything. If you want to be a priest, then you should have to sacrifice certain utilities for the abilities you gain. No more stuffing a cart full of alts to get more dragonhide.

-carts and horses. The only reason chariot archery cough that I pioneered cough was strong was that putting HH on a cart was like giving them steroids, whereas individual horses would slow to a fucking snail pace if they had a tiny injury or they had to carry any more than a fucking feather on their backs. There was still a melee penalty that made fighting from a cart disadvantageous. So what needs changing is that horses should actually be faster than carts until they've taken damage rather than the other way around. It'd be nice if we could make it so you could shoot an bow while moving on a horse, but it seems that's a problem inherent to the game so there's nothing we can do about it. But anyway, it's inevitable that HH chariots are the endgame meta for shooting or transport, the only thing that needs to happen is that cavalry should be buffed in speed (and durability, slightly) and chariots should be slightly slower.

-there should be a feature implemented where terrain has various properties that have effects on mobility and stamina loss. For example, muddy fields should slow down cavalry and heavily-armoured characters. Indoors or dense forests could give a debuff to large unwieldy weapons like greatswords. This makes it so infantry actually has tactical relevance like they had IRL and it could increased the depth of combat.

-get rid of the ungodly tanking ability against melee with shields, that made it pretty much impossible to kill someone with low health quickly, even if two high-skilled two-handed users targeted him, even if one of them had the fucking sword of magrannon. Against two mediocre+ shield users, duels would literally last over 2 minutes and only end when one person ran out of stamina

That's just an idea of relevant changes that came to mind, it's not a comprehensive list.

>>14240040

>>14240082

I've said it before and I'll say it again, those who aren't willing to grind never stick with the game anyway, it's not use catering to those people.

What I'm really interested in in creating a server that has longevity, that attracts various groups of normalfags and has a big enough population for there to be enough interactions between groups to be interesting. So gearing a server for something like that, we would want something like a 3x 3x or 3x 4x skill increase, as well as a large map with robust server settings, and non-incompetent mods who govern with a laissez-faire style. I believe that there is a niche in the market for a hardcore, largely unmoderated PvP server, so with planning and advertising, we could make it successful and long-lasting. I'm not really interested in having another fling with a server that lasts a few months. When you put effort in to something you want it to last.

>>14240199

anyway, I'm off for now, I'll check the thread in a day or two.

>>14239622

There is a quantifier on the amount of healing done, it's the same as before. Scorn of Libila used to work that it healed up to two wounds nearby, now it's just guaranteed to heal those two. Changing it to this basically just gives HOTS priests an actual healing spell of some kind. At least that's how I understand it, I admit I'm not a magicfag and never dabbled in priesting in-game so if anyone wants to correct me or suggest their own balance changes, go ahead. I'll say it again, you can tweak basically everything with these two mods so it's like a dream come true, you guys should suggest which balance changes you'd want to see, everything I did here was basically whatever I personally thought would be good and that's all.

>>14239876

> I could go over all these changes you've made but suffice to say you've fucked up the meta and well enough should be left along.

If you really think it's fucked, you should say why. I geniuinely want feedback because there might be things I'm missing that more experienced players may understand. Wurm combat was not perfectly balanced as it was, that's precisely why mods like this exist.

>>14240199

Carts can be made slower, or should it instead be that horses are faster? Either (or both) of these is possible.

>there should be a feature implemented where terrain has various properties that have effects on mobility and stamina loss

AFAIK this isn't possible without a custom mod. It might not even be possible at all unless you make it apply to every mount/creature

>Indoors or dense forests could give a debuff to large unwieldy weapons like greatswords

Interesting idea, but again not possible with any known mods, so add that to the wishlist

>get rid of the ungodly tanking ability against melee with shields

This is tough, on one hand shields need to have a significant ability to block attacks in order to server their purpose, and intuitively you'd think a giant metal shield would protect you pretty well. On the other hand it makes no sense that one guy can sit in the middle of three others and hide under his shield, somehow deflecting blows from all sides. I think there should be a penalty to shield blocking that increases for each additional opponent the creature is in combat with, if possible - but again, that'd need a custom mod. Best I can do right now is buff the Phasing spell or directly nerf shields (want to avoid doing that, except maybe a movement penalty?).

>These changes are retarded, it's basically "lol I'm going to balance the weapons by buffing the damage of 90% of them xD"

The damage of many weapons was buffed, but the DR of all armor was also buffed. In theory this really adds up to is 1. Certain weapons which were a joke before are now usable 2. Walking around without any armor is potentially deadly 3. Combat is more lethal. 4. Players aren't completely screwed even though I've set the Player Combat Rating bonus to only be like 2 instead of the normal 5 or something (to make monsters tougher, or rather to make players weaker in relation to monsters). The buffs aren't large at all, usually a factor of 10-25%, only really the knives have seen major changes to make them somewhat viable weapons. I'm going to be testing these changes and adjusting them though, we have months after all so I figure I might as well tweak em. But feel free to suggest what you think the balance should look like.

>He also fucked up armour balance by making you able to carry a shitload and be at full speed (optimise your inventory OR FUCKING TRAIN BODY YOU PLEB if you want to be fast

tbh I personally find encumbrance limits really annoying in a game like Wurm so on Brohan I relaxed them a little bit, and I did the same in this config too. Armor still slows you down just like it always did, that slowing is a penalty inherent to armor and has nothing to do with your total weight. Iirc you can carry literally nothing but your armor and if you're wearing Plate it will still slow you down. These movement penalties can also be adjusted, I didn't touch them because I felt they were acceptable, but if you have any ideas here let me know.

>making leather armour completely irrelevant

As it stands Leather still gives a larger bonus to Archery/magic, so strictly speaking if you're an archer or mage who plans on staying in the back lines it's better. Maybe the studded bonus can be lowered to 10%, but I'd prefer it not be 0 so that there's an incentive to use Studded armor which is more expensive and harder to make than Leather to begin with. Of course it offers more protection but it's a higher tier armor, you have to expect that. Also the bonus helps differentiate it a bit from Chain which had its penalty slightly lowered to make Chain more viable compared to Plate.

The change to Drake Armor was made because Drake Armor basically looks like a leather armor and I figured it was rare, so it should have superior properties to ordinary plate armor. Its DR is exactly the same as Plate and it's lighter, but remember that Plate armor can be made from moon metal which gives a percentage based DR boost, meaning Glimmersteel Plate has the highest possible damage reduction, higher even than Dragonscale Armor. Dragon/Moon armor is meant to be simply superior to lower tier armors, it's endgame equipment and would only be acquired from fighting bosses or doing dungeons/quests, so I don't feel bad at all about buffing it. Though a 20% bonus is probably too much for the level of DR it offers, should probably just bring it to a 0% penalty and -20% for Dragonscale.

>>14240199

>>14240670

I don't think having terrain bonuses would work well. If the goal is to make infantry more relevant we could buff spears. I think they get a bonus against people riding horses and we could increase it. I don't see why there needs to be a distinction between cavalry and infantry though. Even if there was one, you can switch between them at will by getting on or off your horse, that is until your horse dies then you're only infantry.

>>14237840

>Minimum attack interval reduced from 3 seconds to half a second. Rare items now reduce time between attacks by .4 seconds per tier (so a Fantastic item gets 1.2 seconds shaved off its attack cooldown)

This seems fucking ridiculous, considering a superior iron sword would now far outclass a rare seryll sword.

>>14243428

That's true, but I highly doubt we'd ever get a supreme weapon. If we did I expect that to be the only one.

>>14241010

I agree it's less of a cav/infantry problem and more of a "spears suck" problem. Cavalry will always have some kind of advantage because they have superior mobility, giving them the ability to disengage at will. That's why the key to PVP is taking advantage of your mobility, individuals can even win 2 or 3v1 engagements against unprepared players using that kind of method. The theoretical counter to that is archery which can harm anyone from a distance, and the theoretical counter to that is infantry with plate and shields which can totally shrug off arrows. But obviously it comes down to individual scenarios.

> I think they get a bonus against people riding horses and we could increase it.

I think it was a bonus if the person wielding it is mounted, actually. I'll have to check for that bit of code again.

>>14243428

>a superior iron sword would now far outclass a rare seryll sword.

Of course it would, considering weapon materials never affected damage or speed whatsoever. Just how fast they take damage during use, which barely matters at all. Which I think is stupid anyway, moonmetal weapons should have special boosts when used for weapons like they do when used in armor. Maybe Adamantine would reduce enemy damage reduction when dealing damage, Glimmersteel would boost overall damage, and Seryll would boost attack speed or something. But that's another thing we'd need a custom mod to change.

Though you have a point that .4 may be too much time per tier, it'll have to be tested. I mostly just wanted it to be theoretically possible to have a Fantastic Carving Knife that attacks at a retarded quick rate, it sounds fun.

>>14243555

Don't glimmer weapons swing faster while seryll will never shatter from chants?

>>14243672

Yeah you're right, I think I was looking at outdated or incorrect information.

Alright I want to die from reading so many inarticulated autists talk about or not explain at all how their mods work. I spent the entire day making a better list of mods that will hopefully be a little bit better. I know >>14237840 said that a lot of the mods didn't work and listed some specific ones, but I was able to get them to not crash the server so I don't know what to say so I kept them in the "working" list. But as I say in the server mod list, I am not able to verify every last thing about every single mod here, this is just the best I can do for now.

Server-side Mods:

https://pastebin.com/xNsUYmq7

Client-side Mods:

https://pastebin.com/zamffMAT

Advanced Modding Stuff:

https://pastebin.com/XwtwLbvG

Broken Mods:

https://pastebin.com/Fss379xw

Handy Stuff:

https://pastebin.com/0AXK7mps

>>14244515

Wow, you went and tested all of those mods to see if they crash on start or not? I listed those mods as not working because they haven't been updated since the new Wurm update, and in some cases people in the thread have said they've run into errors, so I felt it was pretty safe to assume they're not safe to run. But if they can be salvaged and actually safely used that's a great idea.

>Bulk Transport Mod

So the bdew fixed version works then? Or it's also broken?

>Wyvern Anti-Cheat

>Supposed to hide ores and creatures from the player before they are supposed to see them but does not work.

It does work. At least from when I tested it. Which part didn't work for you?

>[P]Lead creatures over water

>Animals can now swim while being lead. WARNING: animals can swim on their own as well.

Does this mean they will swim if you stop leading them, or they will just wander into the water randomly?

>>14244624

>Wow, you went and tested all of those mods to see if they crash on start or not?

Yes

>So the bdew fixed version works then? Or it's also broken?

I completely forgot about that, just checked it and no. I was assuming they added it to their compilation thread and overlooked it, thanks for catching that.

>Which part didn't work for you?

I was able to still see ores and creatures through everything.

The ore esp only works if you go underground.

>Does this mean they will swim if you stop leading them, or they will just wander into the water randomly?

Both.

I lead a horse across a river and then unlead him. After checking a few things I came back and he was swimming.

>>14244624

>>14244659

I had to reread your last question a few times and I don't think I answers clearly enough.

The horse didn't start swimming while still on land in mid air.

He wandered off back into the river for a swim.

The creator mentions that they will start taking damage if you unlead them. Not sure if he meant if they swim for too long they will drown or if there's a bug in which they drown if you unlead them over water regardless if they make it back or not.

>>14244659

>I was able to still see ores and creatures through everything.

You have to enable the anti-ESP portion by using the command !toggleESP in-game as an admin (power level 5). It seems stupid since they don't tell you this but I actually think it's a good idea because it gives you the option to toggle it off if no major PVP is currently going on to reduce potential lag.

>The ore esp only works if you go underground.

I didn't have this experience, are you just using the latest version of WurmESP and LiveMap or something else? As far as I could tell, all tiles surrounded by rock appeared as rock to the client, and even when above ground, some tiles visible through cave entrances would appear as rock until you entered the cave. It wasn't possible to xray any ores for me, so I'm curious why this would work for you.

>>14244669

>He wandered off back into the river for a swim.

This is what I was wondering, if wild animals would simply wander into water for a swim now if the mod is enabled. The mod sounds good but if creatures are going to start wandering into the water that may be a deal breaker, especially if it kills them, especially especially if how that interacts with uniques is unknown.

>>14244689

>!toggleESP

Fuck, I'll check that out and fix the guide.

>curious why this would work for you.

I used the esp and livemap together but it was upon installing the esp that i noticed it working. It doesn't remove the texture of the cave walls, it just adds a colored wireframe box where the ore cube is located. I can take screenshots if you want.

>deal breaker

I agree, but I only saw the original horse I lead taking a swim.

I got some changes and experimenting to do tomorrow, but for now I sleep.

>>14244709

>it just adds a colored wireframe box where the ore cube is located

Right, but the anti-cheat is supposed to make all ore tiles appear as rock to the client if they're surrounded by other rock. You should post a screenshot, the only ore the ESP should be able to pick up are ore cubes which have been exposed on one or more sides - which the client should be able to see anyway, so it's not a problem. note that this won't prevent, say, finding an ore vein someone already uncovered that you didn't know was there, but it should prevent being able to just tunnel straight to whatever ore you want with xray vision.

>>14245332

I'll come get some practice in. Name?

>>14246562

>shows the esp on and mobs still showing

The ESP doesn't block mobs. It blocks other players as well as creatures being led by players or mounted by players. If it blocked all mobs it would lag the server to death with even a single player because it works by raycasting between the player and each potential target every second or so. So yeah it doesn't fix mob ESP but that isn't really the point, PVP is more important I think.

>>14247924

>blocks other players as well as creatures being led by players or mounted by players

You were able to test this?

>>14247982

I tested other players but not mounts/leads, but theoretically there's no reason it shouldn't work, the code seems fine

>>14238079

I've been running a local server with 2x/2x just see how things will go and with these starting items.

All around it is good except for the crude knife, the hunt for branches is inevitable. I'm going straight for iron and I've had to get multiple branches for crude shovels and pickaxes.

I suggest replacing the crude knife with a carving knife so that the ability to make shafts is accessible from the start.

>>14251958

>wander into bodies of water

This is possible, as I've stated earlier, I've only seen one horse do that and it was after leading him through water already.

I'm not sure if they have to be "taught" how to swim or what.

I also lead a horse around a lake for awhile to see if it's stamina would drain enough to the point it would start drowning but I either didn't lead him enough or they won't drown.

Starving is a different question, I'm currently running this local server to see how things go over time and will report back my findings.

Although I did watch my horse stop in mid swim and do the "eating" animation.

So is a new serb actually being worked on? I would hop back on for some more tism as long as the server's pirate-friendly, there's no way I'm buying this.

>>14251995

Testing mods, testing rates, finding ways to let an admin make the game more interesting.

It's in the works.

We also need someone to host that; has a decent computer/server, decent internet, willingness to work on the server and patient.

>>14252004

Sadly I can't help with anything in the spoiler, but I'll keep an eye on the threads and hope that everything comes together again. I just wanna make bows and ropes inside my comfy mansion. Oh, and I actually want to start & finish my swastika tower this time.

>>14251958

>not wanting access to easy food by having your local fauna commit Maas cult suicide

I mean, sure the boars cries as they die in front of you from no seemingly natural reason will terrify your dreams at night, but think of all the food chefanon will cook up

>>14252631

>tfw woefully in love with your seryll 2hsword

I hope weapons do get rebalanced so I don't have to sacrifice as much efficiency for choosing aesthetics over yuge axe or med maul/wooden shield.

>>14237840

>All dragons are significantly faster.

why would you do this?

>>14254192

they're already impossible to outrun unless you have woa shoed hell horses, and even then you might need a decoy

uniques are in a bad place for smaller servers anyway, things like the forest giant and red dragon are nearly impossible to kill without an army

what has to be changed serverside for piratefags to connect?

>>14255626

Why are Tomoko-posters the most insufferable faggots around? You may as well be a furry or pony poster as far as I'm concerned.

You're one of the reasons people overwhelmingly hate weebs on here.

>>14255936

>all these Wurm Gondolas

>they never have the actual Wurm soundtrack

I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, but sometimes they are just really nice when you're sitting there working

>>14256006

>not muting them after hearing the same fucking two songs every fucking moment

>>14256006

Wurm is to me what runescape once was to me. As I enter a new stage of life I still have that precious thing, but it has taken a wildly different and yet so similar form. These gondolas are that feeling for me, and maybe some others too. If I find a unique moment that is wholly Wurm that deserves a gondola for how it makes me feel I will use wurm music.

>>14256011

>being so monotonous in Wurm of all things you only hear two songs

I bet you never even beard midnight breeze, of all things, have you anon?

>>14256026

Fair enough fam, I can think of a few moments but nothing I could ever capture.

>>14256056

that was such a short and bland song tbh

>>14256070

It's memorable for me because I thought some ad was hidden in the background and when I realized it was actually Wurm it was over there are a lot of good songs, but a lot of them are actually only during specific events (founding, disbanding a village, etc) so it's actually tough to catch some, but they are there

>>14256103

but anon ads are hidden everywhere and infact you are an ad

>>14256113

Thats fucking ridiculous play Wurm nigger I don't know what would make you think that you better just go ahead and play Wurm nigger

>>14256119

I have a sudden urge to play wurm for some reason

>>14256160

>Japanese westaboo navel force Australia landing

>>14237487

Fisherman.

Alright,which of you faggots told Aaron,to start taunting me about there not being a serb up yet?

Just because Aaron doesn't manifest himself physically and only speaks to me doesn't mean he can't be a dick.

Please don't do it again.Please.

>>14255452

Who's the faggot,cmon don't blueball us now,tell us so we can bully him.

>>14256795

shit man, isn't it a little early for that

>>14256795

YOU FOOL, YOU'LL DESTROY US **WITH CLASSES* ALL

>>14256824

>six month meme

>>14256848

To get the max amount of people in because some actually go to college, yes. The map isn't even what was being settled on. This is some bullshit.

>>14256867

You can piss and bitch and moan or you can play game, brotendo

>>14256867

Then hand over the map files nibba, oh yea das rite

>>14256878

oh darn, that sucks

>>14256878

This

>>14256912

now you have a reason to finish your work with time to spare, anon.

>>14256795

Map looks like shit, mountains fucking everywhere.

>>14256918

There is no justification for playing on this server. You don't run into a dockyard, shit on the floor, and think everyone will be convinced it's a boat. This is borderline blasphemous.

>>14256795

D-did you forget to place clay? I can't see any.

>don't play video games unless WE say so

why don't waitfags just fuck off for the next 6 months?

>>14256957

Nope. This serb is not legitimate. You are fucking everything up because you couldn't keep your hands off your dick.

>>14256961

>hurr, waitfags amirite???

>better play on this half-assedly done map that ignores what the majority wanted

>>14256973

>This serb is not legitimate.

Of course it's not anon, it's pirate friendly. :^)

>>14256795

WEW

6 MONTH FAGS BTFO

which pirate client is compatible? take the client in OP and stick steamemu in?

>>14257190

this'n

>>14255452

>>14256795

What mods?

Have you done any testing to see if you can run this for extended period of time? Thanks java

How many admins? Can we know their names?

Have you done this before?

Thanks for springing this up out of nowhere with no info besides, THIS IS MY SERVER JOIN NOW.

I'm not saying that we need to wait 6 months, but shit nigger, you should have given some info beforehand.

Also this is a pretty low blow to mapanon who's been working on making a perfect map.

>>14257237

consider it a warmup

>>14256617

N-not mapfag anon,just someone who misses comfy wurm like we had

>>14257250

I'm just saying we should have more info about what we are doing.

Nobody has said which kingdom to join either.

Is this going to be an 8ch vs cuckchan vs normies?

Is this advertised on cuckchan is so?

Pretty unfair if not.

>>14257237

>>14257269

>>14257272

As always, it's some random faggot who comes into a perfectly good set-up and shits all over anything without providing the most basic of details. I would be completely unsurprised if the discfags were behind this. All of this build-up for some assholes to ruin it all. Here I was worried there'd be too much splintering between people deciding on kingdoms again, but nope, shit's ruined before the serb even goes live.

>>14257269

I agree with ya mate,this seems like a cheap grab by someone who was watching the last thread and gauged the interest to be high.

>join

>1000 trolls and scorpions surrounding spawn

>instantly attacked by spirit templar

LMAO

>>14257279

"We don't want a casual server"

50% aggro rate.

>>14257279

into the trash it goes

>>14257285

>hey guys, here's our shit server

>we're not going to tell you what kingdom to join, just jump in and get destroyed by the endless mobs and the aggro'd guards

Kill yourself.

>althazars player files in the client

Is this going to be changeling round: wurm edition?

>>14257298

Oh so this is the work of the 1 faggot no one liked in Brohan,whose very own cuckmates PLEADED for us to destroy his tower as we pillaged their city.

Great.

>>14257277

>a cheap grab by someone who was watching the last thread and gauged the interest to be high.

inb4 they try to make the new thread at the expense of everyone else

>>14257298

Daily reminder that Bowman = Althazar

He's still butthurt and knows that hosting the server too early is the best way to hurt us. Don't fall for him. It's indeed a changeling, call the goddamn shuttle.

>>14257308

>>14257313

Son of a bitch was probably hoping to get as many people as possible on and then shut it down a week or two in out of spite.

>>14257309

Just don't post in the thread if they do.

>>14257318

I doubt it, it's more of a joke. You can tell 5 seconds after joining.

>>14257297

join whatever kingdom you want, the people involved in setting it up didn't all join the same side. If you were to log in and see things for yourself instead of bitching and ass aching you'd have seen the global in events that says Default is one of the admins. The server is 3 gigs. Bowman had no hand in the server, his files were used to create the new pirate client. Pull your panties out of your ass.

>>14257313

>>14257318

I am sitting here playing monster hunter world, I uploaded the client files which happened to include my player files but that's all. I'm fine with waiting for 6 months like everybody else.

If we split up between factions the server is already over. Mark my words. We are NOT enough people to fill more than one faction. We tried it before, it was the saddest wurm server I ever saw.

>>14257341

Get that blackpill shit out of here and have some damn hope.

>>14257359

We haven't really discussed which kingdom to join yet. All I know so far is that we will probably have the chans vs each other and maybe add normies later or in a separate kingdom.

>>14257365

I'm not blackpilling. But I am at the very least skeptical about all this since details have yet to be delivered. I would be fine if this was a test server of all things, but claiming this is THE server makes me worried for everything we've worked so hard to achieve.

>>14257382

The only ones saying this is the official server are the fags that set it up.

Join it and see for yourself that it's an obvious joke, you can tell it is instantly.

It's apparently just a test server so that they can do learning by doing. Don't invest too much time but do take a look.

>>14257324

>>14257341

If they do try it, we'll just make our own thread and report bomb the mods. A handful of dipshits can't be allowed to hijack the show like this.

>>14257359

>>14257365

Hope is dead. For sure, there will be a HOTS faction. As far as I remember, we've always gone MR. People are going to do what they're going to do, but splitting up is what killed Broregon and helped to smother the rest of Brohan. People shouldn't be outright hated for splitting up, but they should keep in mind what might happen if they do.

>>14257401

This is bullshit due to lack of reading comprehension.

>>14257424

How stupid are you?

I'm showing that this server is a joke and that all the fags saying that this is going to split our community in two and no one is going to end up playing when the actually server comes up are idiots.

>>14257441

They are far from fresh at this point, expectant of nothing but faggotry with anything more unified than a weekend get together. I ask you, why are you surprised, and how fresh are you?

>>14256795

kill yourself nigger

your tiny trash map alone is enough warning sign to stay away

>>14257860

>dedicated mapfag making us a top-tier map

>multiple anons working out kinks and mod balance

>dungeonmaker anon on board to contribute

>lolno let's play with this attention whore who popped up out of nowhere with a rangen map

kill yourself also

I hope this is the one faggot shilling under multiple IDs and that my fellow /v/urmfriends aren't actually this fucking stupid.

Or maybe it's just cuckchan migrants.

>>14257893

Which one is the rangen map? The one of the serb now? Because I've been told that dungeonmaker anon is behind this serb.

I'm not saying "go play on this serb", I'm saying "this could possibly work, but I have mixed feelings, give it a chance I guess.".

If there is another serb already being made with a map where more work went into it and where all our discussion in this and the last thread is being considered during its creation then that would probably be the better choice.

I just don't want people to be split into two groups again, because it'll cause both groups to die from not having enough players, probably.

>>14257893

>Or maybe it's cuckchan migrants

Doubtful, even the cuckchanners were waiting on the summer map

>>14257893

Dungeonmaker is the one doing this server.

>>14257918

>>14257929

>Because I've been told that dungeonmaker anon is behind this serb.

Post source on this fake news. Dungeonfag was backing the original serb concept, not this bullshit. There is zero reason why he'd do this without stated as such ITT.

How does Life is Feudal compare to this game?

>>14257935

The source is that I am in the ((((disagreement)))) where the host and admin are in, I'm just telling you what I was told. I'd be happier if there was are more thought-through serb being built as we speak, too, to be honest.

I mean shit, the map looks interesting, BUT:

>mountains everywhere

>no desert

>biomes not very evenly spread

>spawn filled with monsters and no trees (this is being fixed though)

I want to be positive about this, but it's hard. Especially when sober.

>>14257893

>>14257919

4/v/ is just waiting for a serb, no one has the knowledge on hosting a Wurm server and no one has even entertained the idea of hosting it.

>>14257971

>The source is that I am in the ((((disagreement)))) where the host and admin are in, I'm just telling you what I was told.

You can't post a screencap? I see nothing in chat.

>I want to be positive about this

It's an usurper server that has done the complete opposite these threads have established, pushed by a select few that obviously came from discshit. There can only be disappointment.

>>14257918

>because I've been told that dungeonmaker anon is behind this serb

>>14257929

doubt

>if there is another serb already being made with a map where more work went into it and where all our discussion

Where the fuck have you been? Mapanon has been posting for the past ~3 threads.

>>14257971

It's fucking tiny and mountains obstruct 50% of the landmass. The map is miserable and obviously had no corrective effort put into it.

This faggot said jack shit after multiple threads that have been culminating in a serb with lots of fucking effort put into it that he is now trying to derail with this shit sandwich meant to tempt impatient mongs and casuls who haven't paid attention, splitting the population from the upcoming good server.

>>14257971

>spawn filled with monsters and no trees (this is being fixed though)

How do you fix something that's deliberate? Or are you talking specifically about the trees?

I don't believe that someone can genuinely think that doing >>14257419 to a spawn is a good idea.

And the whole idea of using a rangen map and throwing the server up with no information out of nowhere is obvious as well to the intention of the host.

Also the host is in FUCKING LEAF country, albeit it is a server hosting company.

>>14257960

any one?

>>14258027

Never played it so I can't say.

I haven't heard about that game in over a year and thought it was abandoned.

>>14258021

What is it with Leafs shitting on everything they see?

>>14257960

>>14258027

Life is Literally Who? I don't understand the question.

>>14257960

>How is this early-access game stuck in limbo compared to a game that works?

LiF is shit and became abandonware so that the devs can re-release it as an MMO, combat isn't fun in either game.

Guys. I've always loved the concept of Wurm, and I'd love to join on the summer server, but I work a ton and wouldn't have the time to go full autistic like I'd want to. What would be the best way for me to contribute?

>>14258188

Just do what you can.

Gathering resources is always in demand.

>>14257717

Offhand, yes. More anons should get fresh.

>>14258188

Just do whatever interests you. If you treat a goddamn video game like a job you aren't going to enjoy it.

>>14258188

Jump in and for the first few hours, just get used to the game and controls. It's very wonky at first. After you feel confident, ask if you can help. Don't feel any pressure for a while though.

>>14258237

That said I strongly believe carps/smiths/masons/plate smiths should be able to supply themselves with their own wood/lumps/stones/and coal. Otherwise you've got two guys dependent on one another to be useful, meaning once one quits the other is up a creek without a paddle.

>>14258267

we also need more people in roles so when the blacksmith decides he wants to be a champion it doesn't fuck everything up

Where are we on progress for the legit server, btw? I've only glanced at the modding talk but it looked like a lot of dumb shit was being suggested and slowing things down, can we trim the fat?

>>14258188

If you mean contributing to the community without having high skills, clay of any quality is always, always in demand. Any QL of iron for grinding/bulk smithing like nails and ribbons. Forging communal nails/ribbons yourself also helps. Cotton/wemp is also generally in short supply and farming is pretty low-grind.

Most of that is pretty boring, though, besides farming. Pruning/replanting sprouts from trees to counteract the inevitable deforestationiggers is a fairly active and useful contribution, too.

>>14258288

Still testing things as far as mods go and seeing just how fucked java is at allocating resources over time.

So far no one has come out and said they are willing to host at least that knows wtf they are doing.

>>14258394

The server that is up has fucktons of mountains.

>>14258402

Yeah, but it doesn't seem that many people are too enthusiastic about it with so little information given.

>>14258402

>The server that is up

Is a discshit fake server with zero legitimacy, it doesn't count.

>>14258406

there's like ten people playing right now. what do you want to know about the server?

anyone have the image someone made of when we raided HOTS and unsealed their ancient evil?

>>14258394

mountains look great but they can be a pain in the ass

leveling roads up to there, getting resources like clay, and easy access to water are all things you have to keep in mind

>anons want mountains

>and also boats

After spending six hours with Wend unloading all those goddamn bricks onto the ship I never want to see another mountain again.

>>14258530

why not just become nomad vikings?

>>14258674

Really it's because any sizeable group of boat riding pillagers is going to require heavy training in combat, well made weapons and armor to handle enemies, along with other logistics, and that's before we even get into boating materials. Top it off with needing multiple settlements to raid and you'd be hard pressed to be able to pull it off in something as resource intensive as Wurm.

That isn't to say we can't just act like we when we go out raiding, however.

>>14258504

>>14258530

The actual map in OP >>14234670 has plenty. There'll be far more mountain peaks than there are anons to stand on them.

Broschwitz's map wasn't as rocky as the piece of shit faggola's trying to shill and the experience of exploring it was still nightmarish.

t. the guy who explored it all and found most of the dragons

>>14258674

There's really no point to being vikings if we're the only ones on our serb. Who are we to raid resources from if there's no pubbies to bully? Boatfaggotry is also really annoying to grind. I built a caravel, so I should know.

>>14258674

Food. Can't raid meals 24/7. Would be neat if we could work ovens on larger ships and cook what we fish while we sail.

>>14258729

>OP has plenty

That is exactly why I will be parking my fat ass on the Nile.

>>14258436

I absolutely agree. We must secure the existence of squid and a future for freshness.

Wait. Why am I talking about this in a Wurm thread?

>>14258197

>>14258237

>>14258253

>>14258288

>>14258436

Thanks guys. I appreciate all the tips.

>>14258756

Yeah, that bare section of riverside greenery in front of the forest is still my favorite spot so far.

>>14258674

>always some boatless anons not online when we leave

>anons logging out in ships and making it impossible to embark

>anons taking a fancy to a particular stop and breaking off to set up a cabin there

>these various attritions shrivel our numbers and frustrate anons until half of us are hermits sprinkled around the map and half of us quit

>>14258773

>once in a blue moon

It was beautiful. I haven't reclined and considered in a while. Even though I used to do it as a hobby as a teen. I miss when I used to feel. Nintendo isn't breaking my heart.

>>14258828

>all that exposed rock

How fucked is that dirt layer?

>>14258838

This is in a hilly area. It's not fucked further down the mountainside.

This server looks like trash and the hostfag is a (2) and done cocksucker. I'll wait for the kickass anatolia map tbh, willingness to play wurm is a finite resource, afterall.

>>14258865

(1)

>>14258870

Don't worry, keep shilling, maybe you'll get more incontinent retards to bite.

>>14258870

but he's right, cunt

Even if it's only our most premature retards jumping on the sham serb, village bodies are precious and it's shit to have a third of the table burn out on the bread basket before the main course arrives.

>>14258925

Because it's still being worked on

>>14258936

Well shit sparky, guess you left the loaf in the oven too long.

>>14258942

Well shit faggot, guess you like eating raw dough

>>14258972

Rather play video games while it's wet and soggy outside than spend my free summer time cooped up in a house. "The painter is never finished with his painting" rings true here, the map was great. It was ready to go. Shit, if you uploaded the map and handed it to default I fuckin' bet he'd switch to it or at least ask if that's what people wanted. I doubt anyone playing would bitch so long as we kept the skills we've already been on the grind for. The server was put up because people were hungry to play and nobody else was doing anything. If you sit on your ideas someone will beat you to them and they'll never do it the way you would have liked. You have to jump on those ideas. It's not some kike plot to ruin the board community, it's not some scheme to fuck anyone over. It is just a server there for those who were thirsty to play.

>>14258925

>>14258942

>>14258993

nah kill yourself kike

>>14259036

butthurt waitfags everywhere

>let's spend 2 months and 10 threads working on the map

>let's spend another 2 months and 10 threads working out the mods

>let's spend another 2 months and 10 threads testing java

this is going to have to move along much more quickly. by the time you get it together there's going to be 3 waitfag autists left and everyone else is going to be burned out again

it's literally one guy trying to force people to play on a shit server, just wait till summer

>>14259178

This, to be honest. Ignore the jew(s) and carry on with the development of the actual server.

>>14257860

I'll tell ya how i feel,that someone is putting up a shit stock server because they personally can't wait until shit has been figured out.

Only reason this server is up is because the faggot/faggots behind it saw how much interest there was.0 information was given,no modlist,no serb definitions,nothing.3 threads of attempting at planning and discussion so that we'd make the next serb as good as we could,for what?Faggotry to be the end of us.

If people were hoping for an actual server before summer,now we'll be lucky if we get one then.

And even if we do,we'll have less due to burn out from this shit.

This is a grab at interest,nothing more.

5 Shekels say Taffer is involved in this somehow,yes i am holding a grudge

>>14257893

Don't throw this shit on me nigger,i want to get comfy just as much as everyone else,but not like this,definitely not like this.

>>14259158

>>14259192

unless this server implodes over night most people are going to play the one that's running. it only has to last long enough for people to get burnt out, which will probably be right around the time the summerfags get it together. there's a lesson to be learned here. once the hype get's going, there is no "waiting" for months. this was inevitable when you've got 4 or 5 full threads of interest and no server. someone is going to drop a server.

>>14259192

>5 Shekels say Taffer is involved in this somehow

nah, it's not me

:^)

>>14259207

if you're unable to wait, may I suggest not being underaged?

>>14259227

the only reason people want to push it to summer is because of all the barely aged kids in school.

>>14259207

The only ones who are going to join your server and get burnt out after a week are the people who want 50x rates.

They are going to get burnt out and cry like they always do, no matter how long we wait.

The ones who want to actually wait and are not in that shithole server are the ones who actually play the game, have fun, and make memories worthy of screenshots that last multiple threads over the years.

>>14259207

>most

I like how you use that word, but seem to ignore

>all the people with classes waiting on summer for them to be over for a while

>vacation time to line up well for workers

>no images beyond, "T-the starting are should be clear now guys, you might actually survive now!"

>the reaction from this server being dropped causing over 50 replies in thread ranging from, "YOU WHAT" to "kill yourself nigger"

I think you'd be better off using, "some" or "a few" although from your images it seems, "a couple of" might be more appropriate

>>14259245

gee yeah maybe having more people to play with is a really bad idea when we could have 2 people maybe play now, mmmm good call

>shill keeps repeating muh wait til summer

Even as one of the 'give it a rest'fags, I feel like anons would probably be alright to play on the PLANNED serb as soon as it was truly ready, especially since that'll like be a few weeks yet. I know I would, anyway.

People realize there's 3 different primary groups from 8chan alone that play this game right? You people are flinging shit without realizing that each group doesn't actually play with the others. At most you'll get very minor crossover out of sheer coincidence. You've got the oldfags from back in golden valley who eventually migrated to the steamgroup. The core of those players are HoTSheads that prefer pvp due to having so much experience with the game that they've seen and done everything else to the point of futility. Then you've got the people who started later in WO and eventually moved to WU ending around the period of broschwitz. After that you've got a hybrid group from 8chan and cuckchan who started servers during the burnout phase of the second group. One group wants hardcore pvp, the other group got here first and are merely out of sync with the rest, and the most recent group assume everyone they play with is the majority rather than new blood. All three of these groups are fine but demanding that all of them wait for one specific group to tell them it's okay to play is naive at best. That's not including any pure cuckchanners or redditfags. If there's any lesson to be learned here it's that people shouldn't hype this shit up before things are ready, the hype train will leave when it's ready and not when you are.

>>14259270

I'm hoping it wouldn't go up when it's ready and hold off tbh

>>14259283

it's one specific group not wanting to wait and it's naive of them to demand people rush tbh

>>14259245

And everything else discussed in the last few threads you haven't read, kike.

>>14259283

We'll see what happens, then, though I don't have any hopes for the current server remaining alive for more than a few days.

>>14259302

As far as I can tell nobody has demanded anyone play right now have they? All I can see are people sperging demanding that others instead wait. I've got all the time in the world so I intent to play whatever server(s) come up, it's not skin off my back but let's not twist fact from fiction. Only one group is making demands in this thread.

>>14259317

oh they're demanding in a indirect way "here's a server up NOW, I'm playing NOW, ur naive if you want to wait"

>>14259283

>there's 3 different primary groups from 8chan alone that play this game right

Yeah, the red anons, the crossposters, and the shitcorders.

I tried to get into Wurm last year but I sort of lost interest due to the STEEP learning curve of it and not wanting to bother the other anons playing. Thing is I don't mind the learning curb but the Serb felt so damn empty last year that I didn't really feel it.

If anything one of the more experienced anons should write out starter tips for the newbies, it is sort of intimidating.

>>14257327

Nice, one of my man made xeno-outbreaks was screencapped.

>>14259343

>and not wanting to bother the other anons playing

Most of us have zero problems with helping new blood learn the ropes. It's pretty fun to show a new guy around and teach him how to learn how to build a large cart.

>>14259343

I'm sure one of us has our old pastebin guide. Also the server wasn't at all empty last year, unless you joined when it was on the decline, which was at the very end.

>>14259343

the wiki helps abit

>>14259207

Fuck right off,only lesson proved here is that faggots dwell among us.

I see nothing but condemnation for this shit.

Go peddle snake oil somewhere else merchant,this only bolsters Discfags arguements that shit this big needs to done by a closed off group,to avoid having faggots attempt to ride the hype that stems from past experiences everyone had,due to at the least,semi-competent server managing.

You cannot,in any fucking way,to those who've been paying attention,spin this in a positive light,you just can't,this is all due to some faggots not being able to wait for something that had actual time and thought put behind it.

It's fucking CY+3 how do you justify letting hype take the better of you at this point?

Past server's that anon's went into as a whole,bred great experiences,and that's what led to this hype.

How especial can you be to not see the damage this will most likely cause.

This is we can't have nice things.

>>14259215

Good,glad to know you haven't gone full on merchant You can't really blame me for throwing you under the bus everytime hand rubbing is witnessed

This is we can't have nice things

>>14259343

I will teach you the arcane arts of dirtniggery and road building if you want, but yeah, it's best to just sit down with someone and have them guide you if you're really confused.

For advanced autism, there's also custom keybinds which can make your grinding life much more pleasant.

>>14259353

That's probably it, there was around 5 dudes pretty sure a one or two were AFK and the others were busy. Anyway I'll keep an eye out in summer so I can really dive into the autism-fest, that is unless the RO group gets together again.

>>14259343

the play now, indifferents and play later camps, any of them has someone in it willing and more than happy to teach you how to play man. Jump in whenever you feel like it.

And before some comediant points it out,yes my jimmies are thoroughly rustled right now.For a good reason.

>>14259385

take off your jimmies then

>>14259408

You can keep your apology,and pleasure yourself with it.

>>14259376

Wendy?Really?I penned him for an autistic but comfy bully,not for a genuine faggot.

what's wrong with playing on this serb now, and moving over to the autist waitfag server when it's out? do it a skill transfer or something.

Heres an idea, what if we all start with a bit of skill in dyemaking for fun/dyemaking skillgains are significantly increased?

Also wiki says caravels are paintable but no mode of storage can hold enough to paint the damn thing, could we fix this in the future serbian?

>>14259592

>I played on this serb and got 85 FS with a 50 in axe

>Oh sure, let me put it in for you

Even working on an honor system would get old pretty quick. Even if the skill gains on the new serb was like 20x, you'd still have people claiming their mind logic was 50 or some shit

>>14259596

I'm a sucker for painting shit, so I'd probably help transport some of the dye at least

>>14259604

within reason, this server is 3x/3x, and i thought you could link servers, it's an option in the server gui, how does that work? there has to be some happy medium here that allows for playing on this server without all you waitfags sperging out.

>>14259592

>>14259617

>let all the tards who jumped on kikeserb get a massive skill lead and completely unbalance the new town setting of trueserb

lolno

>>14259625

then adjust it to the servers skill / timer rates.

>people spend more time on their characters than the waitfags

>get skills transfered

that's how it works.

or you guys can just sit and circle jerk for the next 6 months at which time nobody is going to care anymore.

>>14259625

and it's not just some tards in the kike serv i see some oldfag from previous servers in here too

>>14259647

or you could just accept that since it's a new serb, you have to start over, like everyone else has.

>>14259660

that's what I plan to do, every serb is merely practice for the next. How people haven't realized that yet is beyond me.

>>14259660

or the 4 autists can just play by themselves when they're finally happy with it after they've done nothing but talk about it on /v/ for the last 6 months and we're all playing this one.

>>14259671

>4 autists

That sounds more like your shitmap, m8.

I wouldn't be nearly so peeved by it if you'd given literally any information about it prior or any effort at all into the map, but you're defending and shilling a pillow fort in favor of the house under construction.

>>14256795

join Jenn-Kellon

>>14259252

>dropped most like I asked the last time we spoke of this serb

>swtiched it over to all instead

Christ alive anon, I agree with >>14259683 I was sitting in my class and had to do a double take, thought Mapanon got bullied into it, until I realized there was no Nile, or really anything other than mountains.

I honestly hope the people on your map have some fun, but don't expect pulling off this shit, getting the reaction you got, including all the shitflinging you did, and then expect, "oh hey can we get a skill transfer :3 ?" to go through so smoothly

>>14259693

nobody was doing any shitflining except the few waitfags who are currently loosing their mind because of those who do not want to wait 6 months and do nothing but talk about the map.

Hostfag here.

Serbs paid for three months

I didn't chose the map, shits hard fam, if you want a challenge, come play, or don't, It doesn't matter, got a few lads getting comfy regardless.

Most went JK, us included, for those wondering.

>>14259711

>I didn't shitfling

>shitflings

tbh

>>14260332

>hey guys here's a new server so you don't have to wait!

<40 kill yourself posts later

>don't worry maybe we can work something out and merge later

<OH NO YOU DON'T YOUR GOING TO START FROM SCRATCH MAYBE EVEN NEGATIVE NOW YOU BAD GOY THATS WHAT YOU GET FOR SHITFLINGING

>>14260399

>6 month fags btfo

>autist waitfag

>butthurt waitfags

>waitfag autists

do you read your own posts at all? because guess what all those posts with above in? oh that's right shit flinging but no keep on being a smarmy passive aggressive cunt bag

>>14259721

when the time comes to get a proper map id be willing to toss a few dollars at you, why did you pay for three months though? unless it was some sort of deal.

>>14261020

I dont understand all this fucking shitflinging and you're part of it.

I joined the server, and a few vets such as fenlaw were there and we quickly grouped up and began the journey into the depths of autism after a hell ride through monster-central. Just because I'm playing now doesn't mean I wont play in a few months time with a proper team behind it.

>>14261020

This relates back to the PVP/PVE problem there are always people who delight in fucking up everything, cooperation is at best a temporary arrangement with them and the second they're bored they'll pull some shit,

>>14259721

>can't make his own map

>thinks he can successfully admin a server when there are harder things to take care of

It's nice that you put your money where your mouth is, but do you know how to deal with bugs?

Have you started logging almost everything?

Can you competently read those logs?

Have fun but you can't just throw a server down with no knowledge of how to get things running or how to keep them running and expect anons to not break everything either deliberately or not.

>>14261514

>Is the modlist ready? Is it being tested?

I made a list of all the mods that I was able to start a server with, I do not have enough knowledge or time to test them all completely. >>14244515

I am currently testing the lead creatures over water mod to see if animals kill themselves and so far the answer is no(been leaving a server running for 38 hours so far). Going to be testing gestation timers mod, treefarm, more craftables and more potables. These are the ones that I feel I can handle, but like I said, I'm not knowledgable about everything nor if they are even a good addition.

>>14259617

The server link thing is for you to make other maps link together. You can't link another persons server to yours. Unless there is some javafag that can do that.

>>14261718

That problem was solved elegantly on Brohan since those people could direct their destructive tendencies at the 4cucks. We had, like, ONE nigga who kept doing dumb shit. Everyone else cooperated beautifully. And even that guy, more or less, did his job. Sort of.

Brohan / Hohenbrohausen went best-case-scenario all factors considered. We had a war and thus motivation. We had a goal and we reached it. The server had a pretty long-lasting golden age especially if you consider all the badmin-drama. It's those that were not on Brohan which now don't want to learn from its example.

>>14256795

As others have said that map is a mountain horror so I'm holding off too.

When a workable one is up if there must be PVP can we at least have some protection on home buildings/plots cos losing *all* your stash to some cunt who just wants to rampage everything is understandable grounds for quitting which means less people playing and a higher cunt player ratio. The game is slow and plodding enough without having to rebuild your house cos 'lolexdee I pwnd your shit hut while you were asleep.'. Obviously if people give up, abandon places or don't log in for an age they could be cleared out though.

Maybe make a neutral spawn hub free of insanity like Brozwich had so people can at least get their shit together and not get mouth raped by creatures or fighty shits before heading out, there don't *have* to be portals to settlements but they'd cut down on people getting ganked on exiting the place.

>>14261853

>playing with 4cucks

I don't need war to motivate me comfy will do.

>>14262011

>protection on home buildings/plots

We had a conversation about that in the first(?) thread and we didn't really come to any conclusion on how to do that without making the game too handholdy.

Destroying buildings takes a very long time without catapults so that's about the best thing I can fall back on.

There was an anon who suggested having events that encouraged kingdom wars which would also imply that nobody would really want to war unless there was a kingdom war going on.

I get your point but the point of the servers is for us as a group to get together on one deed and work together.

Also with the lowish rates that we are probably going to use, it pretty much forces specialization.

I get the appeal of hermitting I always played as one.

If the server host wanted to he can make another map and link it to the "official" map and possibly make that a pve only server, but that's just going to further divide the populations.

If you have any suggestions on how to allow people to be dicks but not enough to completely ruin the fun of others please do tell.

>>14262030

Yeah same here, I mostly stayed out of PvP and did farming, forestry and cooking. During war time I just healed the everliving crap outta everyone since becoming a Fo champ was pretty easy. I'm not sure if I even killed a single 4cuck by myself. But it was a great motivation for the others and if they are happy I'm happy.

>>14262011

Portals would be pretty cool, especially since if we were to put them in it could also make it more comfortable to play on a bigger map.

As for building protection: Guards did the job pretty well so far, especially if it's just single cunts trying to gank shit. That also encourages people to stick together which is the key to a healthy server population. You just gotta really do the math do keep upkeep cost for guards and bounty mod (or whatever other form of economy you use) balanced.

Having 50 guards should be possible, but a lot of work. As we have proven it's not like they are the perfect defense. You just gotta plan the attack properly.

>>14262161

We would basically only allow people who post in these threads to join our towns. As far as posting pirate server info, just don't say that it's pirate friendly or at the very least don't post a link to the pirate client.

>>14262161

Dunno about normans but apparently 4/v/ is just waiting for a chance to get revenge and do better than they did last run. Something tells me that their broken pride will burn with passion once it gets another chance. They will learn from their past mistakes.

Plus, remember: Most of the time we didn't actually outnumber them. Anyone got the screenshot of where 3 of us took out 7 or so of them? Their city also had a pretty decent size, though they could have used a professional road-autist like we had.

I'm not sure if we need 3 factions, we didn't on Brohan, but I guess we could try to do the Reddit (aka. Norman) faction simply by advertising it there. The more the merrier.

Because of the steam sale back then the game now costs less than a dollar on G2A so we don't have to worry so much about piracy discussion either. At this point its far easier to just buy it than having to get a pirate client running and connecting to the damn server. At least I couldn't do it yesterday, so I just bought it.

>>14262267

>anons still think normalfags will join the server

If Brohan and their aggressive advertising with a lack of information was any indicator, over a 5 month period you will be lucky to have even 5 join and even luckier to have them stick around. Wurm is dying/old person retirement home and the majority of its playerbase is PvE lovers who will refuse to transplant to some random no name server that doesn't have its own website,forum to suck admin dick, and no certainty for its future. And if this server isn't even on the main server browser listing its likely going to be a repeat of Default's server and start with a strong player base that eventually hemorrhages over time because normalfags don't look for unlisted servers and anon interest dies off.

Anons server after server keep banking on a Reddit/Normalfag population to help give something to kill/harass to keep player interest but they never arrive they should never be a factor in any server planning.

>>14262569

Fair point, then again, we did fine without normans on brohan and the brohan admin did the worst job ever for advertising it. Compare their forum posts to our OPs back then, it's laughable, no wonder noone cared. It's not hard to do a better job.

But yeah, no need to bet on normies, though it really wouldn't hurt as an extra to have them.

>>14262569

You definitely have a good point, but I feel like if we could have someone giving a new blood group directions, they might start getting into it too. All they need is Wurm files, serb info, the wiki, and someone willing to lead these people. That being said, it's really so we have a group of normies to laugh at when shit goes bad for them. And like I said, I'm not sure where you could get new blood willing to try out a serb unless you manage to make them.

>>14262950

Here's hoping anon for the real serb

>>14262950

>my faction

>hots

Who the fuck are you nigger, there is confusion over in HotsLand about what the fuck is even going on or who is running what but no one has claimed they are boycotting shit, hell at least 1-3 people have already or are planning on jumping on the server.

>>14262990

You have people who have selected HoTS, you don't have the actual HoTS faction members.

>>14262990

It's 4/v/ and they don't want to play on a garbage map. Those who are in HotS so far ended up there because noone told them to join JK. Because shit's unorganized as fuck.

>lets get normalfags guys

You don't understand, normalfags don't have the autism to compete if they start at the same time as us. If you want a server with normalfags they need to start playing 2-3 months before we do, this gives them enough time to skill up and become attached to their characters enough that they won't simply quit the first time one of us breaks into their deed.

>>14263043

It depends on what normies we are talking about.

Normies as far as the average "gamer", you are correct.

The normies in wurm are autistic beyond our comprehension.

I hate to mention a youtuber by name but look up gamester4life, he's some furfag brit that's made like 200 wurm videos about how to do just about everything and in most of his videos he has a cough and ends up apologizing for it every time he coughs.

>>14263072

>>14263043

Well without 4/v/ the current serb doesn't have much of a choice than aquiring normies. I doubt the lads playing on it right now realize what kind of gamechanger it is that 4/v/ doesn't want to play along with blowing the load early…

>>14263093

Exactly.

If people want to wait then they can wait, I'm doing the same except my local server for testing.

If others want to play now and get burnt out by the time we get a real server then fine too since they're probably going to get burnt out and quit early anyways.

Some people are autistic enough to play now and later I hope they actually are and not just saying that and turn out to be burn outs

Brohan host here (Anyndel), who's hosting this one?

Also for real serb I'm willing to host website for free and all if the goys who will host it want one at all.

I'd offer free hosting of the server itself but I'd heavily suggest keeping it in house (someone 8ch trusts more) which would be a lot less drama, so some of the more paranoid people can't blame ((((outside)))) influence.

>>14263578

8 =/= 16 - 22

>>14263600

this is just our little dwarf fort

> 16-22

>citation needed

22 might have been an all time high

>>14263611

MR and JK would have to do their own list, but HoTS at launch had.

Niyuu

Wangus

Theo

Morarn

Shurimoo

Commiegator

Dorag

Althazar

Chife

Silverberg

Ausvind

Lordofcomfy

Badolf Shitler

Cloke

and a handful of noobsters that lasted a week.

>>14263578

razgook is literally the only name on that list i recognize

8 is what we were pulling in the second half of the lifespan of the previous server

we'd have ~20 on when shit was goin

>>14263287

Fuck anyn you double nigger :)