/v/ - Video Games

I just want to say fuck carving knives for being weaponsmithing, tbh

>>What sort of events should we consider as decently fun times, minor fights over interesting resources, monster invasion, deep cavern spelunking, etc

Hota would be fun.

>>14269098

I figured Hota wouldn't be a bad idea, especially with 4/v/ and if we had additional normans. I'd almost half wish we could invite Whait and his band of fags if it meant having the admin copy paste any butthurt whispers from getting his shit pushed in again

>>14269098

>>14269370

>HOTA

On top of PvP and the dungeons/pyramids/skele dens of the desert? Activate it all.

>>14269098

We mostly didnt add HOTA on Brohan because on a few servers we've been on its usually one faction that will win them all and on top of winning they start gaining advantages by receiving moonmetal so it gives the already dominant pvpers progressively more advantage, and in some servers I'd been at the difference it created ended up being massive, so we ended up deciding not to do it. Probably have that in mind and tune the rewards to avoid it if doing it.

>>14269834

Ornamental functions would be pretty solid, or it gives something that helps defend a village and doesn't help an attack in any way would also work. Doesn't have to make the guards fucking impervious or whatever, it could just be a boost in usable materials or a reward item.

>>14269834

rare champion strawb

i cant connect. am i doing something wrong?

>>14269876

no the server shit itself yesterday and it hasn't come back up yet.

>>14269881

Thanks.

SERVER IS UP

>>14269834

A rare version of a common material for each participating player (like how you get enough medals for each player) would be neat. Just stuff like planks which, if I recall correctly, only give a slightly elevated chance to make something rare when completed with them.

>>14269774

>gaining advantages by receiving moonmetal so it gives the already dominant pvpers progressively more advantage

You don't get much moonmetal from HotA. Just make it a once to twice a week thing and you're golden.

>>14270046

still can't connect

>>14270127

Anon please,at least keep it to yourself that you the bait.

I'm here waiting aswell

>>14270152

*took,i'll crawl back to where i came from.

Its probably good that i cant play. I have school. Fuck, the one time i'm able to play wurm and i cant.

>>14270389

Summer Serb soon, anon

>>14270429

Im gonna be taking summer classes too

>>14270454

well shit i guess we better make it summer 2023 to accommodate all these people with classes, we want to make sure we have the maximum numbers.

>>14270570

We'd probably have even more people than your serb right now :^) if your serb was even up

>>14270082

Or it might be fun to make the reward a bunch of random bloods. That way the reward is useful, but doesn't give endgame materials.

>>14269052

>Someone made a serb that may or may not work

This sort of attitude is why stuff never lasts long, don't just "throw up" a server then expect people to invest days of real life time into it. The main thing that's gonna keep a server working, is assurance that it'll remain up and not just randomly crash and never come back.

>>14270650

Which is why it got all the loving comments it did last thread. Go ahead, take a peak. You'll see one anon attempt to shit talk everyone and then have the audacity to pretend he's "one of the people waiting, but can't handle it, so he plays firs thing that shows up" or something to that effect, while keeping the same ID.

The reason why I said, may or may not work, is because 12 hours in and the host site got it's shot DDOS'd. Perhaps that's why most people were fine with waiting. I mean, if it comes up live, maybe you'll get some mileage practicing things, but beyond that may as well just wait for the proper serb.

>>14270696

Righto, I just want to make things go well this time. I've lost about 2 weeks in-game time so far playin with you guys over the years. Dakin by the way :3c

>>14270705

>Dakin by the way

I'm beginning to think Fink had a point with his rant. Next server I'll have to change my name.

>>14270650

Every prior server's main downfall (beyond going up while people were still feeling burnt from the last attempt) has been a buildup of minor QoL problems along with running out of motivating factors, be it PvP or high-level group PvE content. These issues take a lot to work around, which is why so much TLC has been given to the map in progress.

That's why I'm pissed about some little shill faggot popping up with his no-info, no-effort map that's going to be (already is) plagued with issues and rapidly nosedive, burning out whatever eager newfags jumped on it before the server made by people who knew a thing and gave a damn goes up.

>>14269052

>want to join

>community is always great fun

>game is shit

>every time I play I'm driven mad by making so many planks

>no alternatives

>temptation to join always there

>regret it every time

I don't know how you autists do it but holy fuck I can't stand it. I wish this game wasn't an endless fucking grind.

>3x/3x rates

When we had that massive town a couple of years ago and someone wrote "fag" with a big arrow that was supposed to point to Artorias, what were the rates then? I remember it being something like 5x/8x or something huge like that but even it was too slow for me.

>>14270833

>I wish this game wasn't an endless fucking grind.

The grind is the point, duder. It's like a road trip, you're all going to the same place, that's the point. The magic is the bullshitting and car breaking down and the people you meet along the way. Without the grind there'd be no glue to stick it all together.

Fuck you annefrancs your server has been down so long I actually went out and excercised, took a walk, and considered doing packet tracer homework.

I just wanted to build muh cavern tavern.

Anon from last thread said that ruskies like to hit this particular server host hard, what for?

>>14270833

Brosmouth/Broschwitz was 4x/4x.

>Anon from last thread said that ruskies like to hit this particular server host hard, what for?

Bitcoin miners. It's pretty funny really, get a kimsufi server, put a weak password on whatever method you use to access it and dont do anything else to protect it and see how in under 24 hours you're mining for the russians.

>>14270936

>trick the miners into joining the serb

>"Why mine pointless coin, when you can mine pointless fun Tovarisch ?? ))) Also pvp "

>this group gets all of their friends in under the mining in game

>We end up having a 3 way between 8/v/, 4/v/, and the Russian menace

This will be the boost of longevity that we needed.

>>14270936

why would they pick such a shitty host? there's a million VPS providers out there.

>>14271025

they might have absolute garbage network security or its just a well known host among the SLAV COMMUNITY

>>14271025

Who would you suggest

>>14271029

anything listed on lowendtalk that doesn't have 50 shitty reviews, it's not just for low end. though somehow i doubt the server was running 8 cores with 32gb of ram on ssd's.

>>14269774

>>14269834

How about every third or so win gives you a rare bone? With the option to trade several of them for a surpreme bone and trade several of those against a legendary bone?

>>14270802

This. I feel bad for the guy who paid for the serb tho. Especially since he fell for the kimsufi-jew. Hope he can get a refund for at least two months or something…

>>14269052

Here is an idea lad: What if we had a week long server which ends at the end of 168 hours, and which ever faction controls a certain item at the end is crowned the winner? It could be a small map with high rates to encourage fighting. This type of event should come every 3 months or something.

Also,

WAIT 6 MONTHS YOU SUBHUMANS

>>14271763

If a server will only last a week it's not worth sinking my time into.

>>14271763

I only threw the serb that caused the shit show last thread in the off chance it would the shit flinging from the "lol wait 6 months?" lads. It was not really successful, but at least I gave their currently DDOS'd by association serb some attention That being said, I kind of have to agree with >>14271772 on one hand, although I do sort of like the idea of some small serb to just screw with as a quick get together, maybe as a weekend gamenight event.

But I like events in general, if you got more ideas keep 'em comin

>>14271763

Honestly mate, obviously there are a lot of people who'd prefer to play sooner rather than later. I think I was one of the first people who started the 6-month-meme, maybe I was even THE first, but at this point I'd say 3 months would work too - as long as it's done right. Let's find a middle ground between waitfags and impatientfags.

>>14271788

Maybe a little weekend-session where we go really crazy with the rates would be fun. Plus this could be used to test maps, settings, mods and so on.

>>14271791

Problem is the impatient subhumans will get burned out and not want to play when the actual server starts. We need full momentum from everyone anticipating it and joining at the same time.

>>14271763

EVERYONE WAIT UNTIL I CAN PLAY BECAUSE I CAN'T MANAGE MY TIME EFFECTIVELY BETWEEN VIDEO GAMES AND SCHOOL

>>14271763

i'm reminded of wurm's challenge servers, something like that could be neat

give everyone some insanely high rates on a tiny island, give them an objective, the winner gets a unique item

>>14271801

>Problem is the impatient subhumans will get burned out and not want to play when the actual server starts

If someone gets burnt out from a quick server they'll burn out just as quickly on a longer server. It honestly might be for the best, that way we won't have to take over roles abandoned by all the short fuses dropping like flies.

>>14271801

By now it's only 5 months, not 6. I guess we could also make it 4 or some shit. The current serb is pretty much dead at this point with all the problems it has, I doubt it'll burn people out.

>>14271807

Depending on where you're from, school can either be a joke and mean that you got tons of freetime in the afternoon, or it can be absolute, suicide-inducing hell where your soul belongs to the school. Wouldn't want to put the hat of shame on those kinda lads.

Plus I kinda suspect that it's Banana and he worked so goddamn hard on Brohan he has earned his time off-wurm. Even though I'm sure he'd rather play than having to suck his schools dick.

>>14271813

well that's assuming the reason why they're dropping is the game and not because of lack of people playing + goal

>>14271824

That's exactly the reason. Lack of players becomes the issue once all the short fuses are gone causing a few of the non shorts to think the server is dying after seeing the population drop so quickly.

It generally goes like:

>day 1 we've got a ton of people with startershit trying to get things set up

>day 2 everyone fucks around as we settle into things

>day 3 5 guys didn't log on they're never seen again

>day 4 another 5 are gone a couple of new guys have been shown the ropes

>day 7 we have half the population we had on day one there's half built huts everywhere

>>14271847

that's a reasonable example. the question now is, how to fix "short fuses"

>>14271877

>Fo, Bullguy, Vynora, and Worst goddess

Why'd you list Vynora twice?

>>14271877

Kek what, it took 1 week to get one crop done? Every server I've been on puts that on one day instead. Jesus.

>>14271847

Simply work with that. Get the starting population so goddamn high that even if just 25% of them are active you still got a decent population. Worked for Hohenbrohausen. Our citizen list literally exploded and even though only a quarter of them was actually long-term active we still did well.

>>14271856

you don't. that's part of wurms flawed design. starting out on a fresh server is always the most fun.

keep the server going long term even with low pop, buff the creatures so pve is hard, hide the map so there's a sense of exploration, and increase decay so shit disappears in a month if it isn't touched. make deed maintenance a thing and increase off deed decay.

>>14271856

Like I said before, it might honestly be best to just let them burn out on a quick server. Because, while /v/ is fucking autistic, it has a fairly small population willing to play Wurm. When you start with a group of 40 and by the end of the week it's shrunk down to 25 some are going to start feeling the server is dying, while if you start with 30 and it shrinks to 24 after a week that feeling isn't as pronounced.

That solves the "short fuse snowball" but there's also the guys who join expecting a similar experience to one of the other /v/ servers they've joined in the past. Unless these guys can get the nostalgia they're looking for, or they find they enjoy this server anyways, there's really nothing you can do to stop these from eventually flaking.

>>14271887

Oh ho ho, sweetie pls.

>>14271893

Slight exaggeration, the practice server was only up for four days, but those crops were still far from anything harvestable at the end. Days of "growing steadily" with minor visible signs of doing anything. Maddening.

>>14271900

most of the waitfag argument is "muh classes" what are you going to do when classes start again after a month and the waitfag population drops by 3/4. or is the waitfag server only planning on running for a month while classes are out?

>>14271907

The waitfag argument is giving a break to the old burnouts you absolute newnigger.

>>14271907

>share observations you've had on short fuses and their effect on group morale

<hey what're you going to do about classes?

Play on any server you want, famalam, no skin off my back.

But if you just want to shitpost you'll probably have more fun preaching the brown pill. I hear it's a tough pill to swallow!

>>14271913

Didn't brohan go up about a month after the previous server had died?. If so then that excuse has about as much weight behind it as a punch from stephen hawking.

>>14271932

take a guess how long brohan lasted

I don't think this is feasible to mod in, but it would be cool if there were multi-day events similar to HotA where groups could get teleported to some alien world with absolutely nothing, then they would have to make a base and raid ruins and shit for rare treasure.

It would be fun for people wanting the thrill of a fresh start, and be a nice high-level diversion.

>>14271936

No idea, considering the average lifespan of every other server i'm going to guess 3 months? I don't see what that has to do with anything though.

>>14271932

No idea, because myself and the lads I played with were too burnt out to play on Brohan. Funny how that works, huh?

>>14271940

Brosmouth+Broschwitz lasted longer than that even with absolute niggeredly administration and connectivity.

>>14271947

Yeah but that server was a perfect storm. Not only did we have normalfags to fight we also had legit cataclysmic events that spurred life into pve and we also had a complete disregard for the server and its management to bind all the players together. Something which cannot exist by definition on a server that we ourselves host. That place was an exception to the rule.

>>14271936

Brohan lasted 3-4 months, but I have never seen a serb go better than that. And it had the worst start ever thanks to fucking Althazar hosting way too early and then giving up because being an admin is hard so then we had to migrate to a new server where we at least took our skillgains with us.

That's the reason the shortfuse-lads right now are almost all not Brohanians, if they would have taken part in that they would a) be more burned out right now and b) would have learned from it.

I'd be happy if the next serb goes as well as Brohan did. A nice 4ch VS 8ch war motivating everyone and then at the end there is a big final battle and afterwards there is a clear winner. I bet it will last even longer next time though, because 4/v/ will not that easily defeated this time.

>>14271937

That could be achieved by raising a piece of land in the corner of the map, walling it off, and placing teleports for each faction.

Fuck is there a way to make the pirated client work ? I can't fucking make it work cause i'm probably too dumb for that.

>>14272201

Thanks anon.

>>14272201

Someone in these threads said that WO is like a retirement home for a lot of older gamers. I'm inclined to agree. Even on WU servers you're constantly bumping into people who are 40+ with a wife and kids and shit. It's also bizarre how many of them are from the UK.

>>14272315

I've met a lot of wounded soldiers in WU, and one old fuck who would bully the ever loving fuck out of you while teaching you the proper way to construct roads and try to hammer in your head the odd bit of Welsh.

>>14272340

Could you give an overview of what he taught you? I could certainly use a helpful primer on road building.

>>14272372

Make sure the tile borders crossing the road are all level you FUCK.

>>14272372

Sure, but most of this shit only gets remembered once I've got a shovel in hand and am ready to terraform.

>if you're not going to make it level don't even bother doing it

>slopes are for destinations, not getting out of work

>if need be fucking surface mine, pussy

>20 slope may be transmissible but it is haram

>18 slope was the very max he was reluctantly willing to do mine is 16

>just as roads should be level so should slopes hold a constant slope

>if digging deep (requires an actual dirt layer) spread out your digging into sections so that you're not falling when digging the next tiles

>if you're going to do some fancy U ramp shit there's a minimum tiles in the inner U you should leave based off the height change

<sadly I can't remember the formula for that

>>14272562

when i built a huge ass road on brohan i opted to just build a shit load of wooden bridges. I think along the entire span of the road I created like 4 or 5 bridges.

>>14272562

That old fuck would've bullied you senseless.

>The problem is that between the highway and the path, the land curved downwards. For each tile I filled in to the "proper slope", the one after that up to around the middle was further down.

Your fuckup was filling from the edges, with shit like this you need to fill in from the lowest point and work your way up. If the ditch is deep you have to gradually fill the lowest point in layers, otherwise you make a wall.

>I realized that to make the slope constant it would require an untenable amount of dirt

You haven't the slightest clue how much goddamn dirt these fucks use to make proper roads.

>create raised earth that would be more akin to a military fortification than a country path

That's a simple fix. Make the middle tile of the road that connects the two flat, then make "access paths" cutting into it. Now should someone find their ass on the side of the road they can use those to get on the road proper, rather than tumble down onto the farm road.

>I decided the best course of action would be to work with the terrain rather than against it.

You took the easy way out. I cannot properly express how thoroughly bullied you would've been. Suffice it to say Wend would be happily be taking notes.

>>14272651

Well we simply didn't have enough dirt for that. The dirt layer for Brofoundland's server was mighty fucked because of how thin it was and is one of the reasons when anons talk about maps they're sure to mention to make sure any created map has a proper dirt layer.

I was also a coal-maker for the town so more dirt going into roads meant less dirt for my piles.

>>14272147

>As far as I understand, it's possible to influence what direction your god moves on Valrei through faith and missions so it's not just aimlessly wandering around but I have never tested it to see for myself.

Unless its changed, the way it works is completing missions for a god slightly lowers the cooldown until their next action (defaults to about 3 days and a missions removes a handful of hours from it). In order to influence your gods action, you need to spend karma and you can influence one action for some absurd cost, like 50000 per action or something equally autistic.

Everything else sounds about right though. Becoming a god requires a small town of dedicated autism and even then you can get fucked by RNG since everytime valrei resets, all the positions of gods and items are randomized so you can get your god spawned on the complete opposite side of the map as the acorn or cherries and some other god can start right next to it and cuck you for weeks or months.

>>14273638

On Brohan we planned to end our PVE dragon campaign with an ascent to godhood item since it was clear by then the server was on its way out, but not enough people remained by that point to compete for such a thing for the reward to seem truly earned.

>>14273668

Judging by playtime I think it's safe to say it would've been given to Yore.

>>14273668

If godhood was gonna be implemented as a thing on a hosted server it would need to be entirely handled by a GM giving out items or setting whatever flags are necessary. Possibly do some managed quest chain involving finding a manually placed artifact (like a custom made moonmetal sword), kill a dragon or some other unique or manually placed monster, then build one of the higher tier missions items like a gate or something. That way it'd require a handful of people at least to work together to ascend some local cult leader to godhood.

>>14273453

proud of your pol think anon.

>>14274248

I like the design reminds me of the battle tower from nightmare in dreamland. You'd need to be a GM wand to spawn it or a construction team ready to build the tower of babel.

>>14274323

Yes, it would have to be built by an admin who can spawn everything quickly and then make it all invincible to prevent people tearing the walls down.

The only thing I can think of being a problem is some high level dickthief with picklocking. Unless there is some way to make locks/doors only be able to be unlocked with a key.

If you have the good map post it now or forever hold your memes.

it seems like this play now server went down for stability reasons, it was not tested for stability, which makes me think, why not both?

start a play now server with vastly increased skill/action timers. 20x/20x or something, preface it with this server may go up and down to hammer out issues, do skill transfers if people get nuked because of server issues, whatever. avoid wiping the server if possible. the point would be to stress test it and work out stability issues. maybe also map issues assuming the mapanon comes back with his map. this might satiate the play now crowd, and give the waitfag crowd the valuable experience of not putting out their server and then having it shit the bed or having to wipe the database due to problems later, because they would now have the experience. the increased skill / action timers would minimize the investment, so if things got wiped or a map was changed it would not be devestating. use it as a general testbed but the play now crowd could end up stress testing it.

>>14274369

Sounds like a good idea to me

>>14274355

Rome wasn't built in a day anon, nor two or three or four or five.

>>14274396

the point of 20x/20x is that it's likely the database would have to be wiped a few times if there's serious problems. that idea probably isn't necessary though if skill transfers are done.

>>14274248

That falls into the desire for dungeons territory. I don't see how anybody would be against this.

>>14274323

>proud of your pol think anon.

N-no, stahp.

>>14274369

>went down for stability reasons

People have been warned since the first thread that pirate servers are at great risk of self-fuckage. If the claims in the last thread of Jewry are false and this is in face an issue with stability, maybe there should be a more sincere consideration towards buying the game and someone hosting a legit server so people don't end up losing all their hard work over and over again. If the practice server host is here, bruv needs to speak up if he's learned anything from this failure and how it won't happen again if people still refuse to buy the game. Every time now that we've done this, there's been a crash. But is anybody doing the work to dig into the files and figure out what's happening. If nobody's going to do that, maybe it's time for a legit server.

>20x/20x

Fucking no, what?

>>14274413

it's not as cheap as you think, g2a is sketchy as fuck. if your going to use that your going to have to go out and buy a prepaid, and use a new steam account so your doesn't get flagged for fraud. read the negative reviews on their own shilled review platform, trustpilot. i would trust the positive 5 star reviews far less because these are a bunch of chinks and they have no issues with fake reviews.

>>14274413

From what I remember, there is 1 line to change in the server files to enable pirates to join.

Idk how that fucks everything up, could be java, or rolfcode, or just incompetent hosts that don't want to look into logs

>>14274434

actually it seems like they don't even shill trust pilot anymore because of those negative reviews, it used to be on their homepage and game pages, now it isn't.

>>14274439

pretty sure it's incompetent hosts who want to stick a bunch of mods in and then throw their hands in the air when it totally shits the bed.

>>14274413

>People have been warned since the first thread that pirate servers are at great risk of self-fuckage

Very false, theres nothing in a server being pirate rather than not that deals with its risk of being fucked. I've hosted a few serbs before (inc brohan) and I havent noticed any sort of distinction.

I only had 1 server die on me (/v/irgin islands in early 2016) due to corrupted databases and that was my first, and it was mostly due to us fucking with making custom gods right from the DBs and it working for a couple of weeks before something happened with Valrei and the gods we had introduced that cause a massive meltdown.

>>14274476

You know, its pretty funny how custom gods work. Amongst other things, for the longest time we couldnt get them to be BL and we'd only be able to generate WL gods.

Then we found out that it was the gender of the gods that determined it, so if you mark a god for male, it will come out as WL and if you mark it as a female it comes out BL. That means that Vynora is a goddess (male) thanks to rolf code.

>>14274503

>males are good and women are bad

WOW SEXIST!

>>14274517

I'd fug it

>>14274488

>buying strangers keys

What are you, a really decent individual?

>>14274517

Never saw "her" up close in such detail, what a shit choice in religion. Friendship ended with Vynora, now Magranon is my bestfriend.

I'm kind of surprised someone didn't hoard a bunch of keys when it was cheap shit on humble bungle.

>>14274549

There is an entire business model based around that called g2a.

>>14274569

>over not being able to afford the game

That'd be like one or two dudes and anons are always offering to buy the copies.

The real problem with piratefags is that they've worked up some tremendous moral autism about not using steam, even if you supply them free codes.

>>14274568

Yeah, wonder if they're partially to blame for the prices spiking on humble. Probably more just faggots signaling what charitable cunts they are.

>>14274587

>How connected are players in the same village

Very. You have to rely on each other, everyone specializes in a job but all jobs are needed.

>Can I play as a woodsman, hunting down deer and other creatures and bringing the corpses back to my cottage to butcher and cook with fresh veggies and spices from my own garden? Is there any roleplaying? Would it get me bullied?

The answer, to all these questions, is yes. Everyone gets bullied in healthy doses, we usually have a professional bully who specializes on it just to make sure it's done right.

Also, with some wyrd admin majicks, I think the towers could be almost infinetely high.

>>14274587

>How connected are players in the same village, are you next door neighbors who go to the cafeteria run by the guy with maxed cooking for meals, or do you have farmers out on their own plots down the road from each other all baking their own bread and coming together at the market square when they need things? Can I play as a woodsman, hunting down deer and other creatures and bringing the corpses back to my cottage to butcher and cook with fresh veggies and spices from my own garden? Is there any roleplaying? Would it get me bullied?

All this and more, and usually people are neighbors inside the perimeter of a wall. Or hermits (who inevitably give up out of loneliness or are fucked first when a warband rolls through) Usually one man dedicates himself to a skill, or several people on a project skills. There are dedicated doctors, ship builders, carpenters, masons, cooks. Sometimes there's one brave blacksmith autist who does it all but sometimes that's 2 much work and there are chain armor smiths, weapon smiths, tool smiths and plate armor smiths. On the wurm unlimited legit server list there's a pretty populated RP realm.

>>14274587

There are villages and we all try to work together and unite for a cause such as a war with another village/kingdom or to take down some unique creature like dragons.

People can be hermits and go live in the middle of nowhere and work on their own or loners who hang out in town but don't really contribute.

>Can I play as a woodsman, hunting down deer and other creatures and bringing the corpses back to my cottage to butcher and cook with fresh veggies and spices from my own garden?

All of that, yes.

> Is there any roleplaying? Would it get me bullied?

Some yes and some no. I was going to rp as a hammer from the thief games

>Stick a premade "town" every few levels

Good idea

>>14274587

Jobs can be varied, towns typically work themselves out. On the practice server, the majority ended up being mostly miners/fighters. There was maybe one or two smiths, one farmer, one tamer, one tavernkeeper. If being a woodsman would be your deal, that's within the realm of doing. Just know that the more your spread out your interests, the more grindy it will get. No shame in relying on others or a little bit of rp, although the more of that you do the more bullying may result from it as will happen anyway because, yes, villages are an unavoidable goal. The world and its mobs will rape you if you go full hermit. unless you're a fag who uses alts, in which case nobody wants you around anyway.

>>14274587

>Is there any roleplaying? Would it get me bullied?

Yes.

But in all seriousness it's a lot of fun working together, since it's pretty much the only way to play Wurm. Think of a gated neighborhood community where people are either shitposting while grinding, building useless shit that ends up somehow saving the village, or getting chased by a horde of monsters and end up getting the whole village trolled. It's all in good fun especially when people have their own jobs. Although the game is designed to heavily rely on the grind, so be prepared for the wild ride that is Wurm grinding.

Take a look at the wiki for a better understanding

https://www.wurmpedia.com/index.php/Main_Page

>>14274607

>supporting DRM game rentals

>>14274749

How is it a rental if you backup the files on a HDD and know how to crack steam games because you're not a retarded baby? The only true DRM is always online DRM. The lemmings pay for what they get and if you're not a lemming you should have some skills at this point in the game.

>>14274685

Adding to this, spreading out your jobs can result in more grinding especially if those jobs are not connected. Are you a farmer and a cook? That'll make skilling cooking faster. Are you a miner and a cook? Kill yourself you have chosen the two worst jobs to grind and they have almost nothing to do with each other. You get the idea.

>>14274777

being capable of cracking the DRM is not an excuse to support DRM in the first place.

also pushes for itself to be always running the background and lemmings either don't know how or don't care enough to turn it off so they can spy on you and sell your data (lemming X played Y for 10000 hrs and Z for only 10 hrs, etc).

Steam does not respect your freedoms.

>>14274862

That's why we are hoping to crack everything and put links to it all.

Go back to your commie /tech/ board and bring back some java coders we really need them please

>>14274862

No one in this age respects your freedoms either. Other than your arm and what object of violence it willingly commands.

>>14274856

I'm working on it

I would wager most of the instability isn't caused by it being a pirate serb but rather the whole load of mods injecting their own shitcode into already bad rolfcode

>>14274871

nobody on /tech/ use's java

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.en.html

java doesn't respect your freedom's either.

i can dig around in java well enough, but nothing really needs to be done, steamemu takes care of it.

>>14274871

>>14274892

>/tech/ will never rewrite Wurm so it becomes the game it deserves to be

>>14274587

woodsman is extremely viable

high woodcutting is sick body strength gains (which is a useful characteristic skill) and tbh you could do it full time and supply the village with all the lumber you cut and we would burn through it all

butchering and fighting skill pair well with it since you're out in the wild. the former awards pelts and meat, and the latter is a must on PvP servers basically.

its a pretty great feeling genociding a forest. its the one skill i enjoy actively grinding because you get into this nice rhythm and you leave a mark on the world. its nice coming home with thousands of logs for your homies to use

>>14274892

we need java coders for the mods and database server stuff not cracking the game.

>>14274904

>>14274905

post files and problems when you have them.

>>14274993

If you find something to do, there will almost certainly be a use for it for the town.

>How involved is the admin team

It depends on who the next admin is going to be.

Hopefully someone who actually wants to put in the effort.

>>14274993

The admin COULD go out of his way to create lots of content, but usually the players create it themself because of how much it sucks to be an admin.

As for which job to pick: If you have no dream-job you're dead set on, your job should depend on how active you'll be. The more you'll play the more important your job should be. Want to reject the unholy abomination that is your reallife and live in wurm instead? Become the ultimate town smith and do ALL the types of smithing at once. Everyone will depend on you. Want to take it relatively easy? Become a fisherman + hunter, only the cook depends on you and even if you're gone for a couple days he'll be fine. You get the idea.

>>14274993

This game is pretty hard to pick up, but we'll all help along the way, the admin team (2 at most) intends to do things like that however, we're already talking about segregating mob spawns and custom maps in https://disagreement.gg/PgEvnj

>>14275149

fuck me they word filtered dizgord

>>14274904

>not being a true forester and pruning+replanting every tree you take

I bet you leave stumps behind too you triple-nigger.

Anyone happen to have a key leftover from Humble Bundle?

>>14275932

Oh cool, even better. Probably should have read the OP first.

>>14275879

Use the erode function, erode for maybe 3000 cyclles, it'll soften your mountains

Just throwing something out there, I've barely played Wurm so don't pay me too much mind, but isn't it more fun to play on a server with an existing population, so you can have enemies and rivals to compete with?

>>14275966

With existing servers come existing rules.

With existing servers come Steam authentication.

With our own server we can circumvent these two things which one or both end up turning away the bulk of our userbase.

>>14275966

>but isn't it fun to play on a server with an existing population, so you can have enemies and rivals to compete with?

Current school of thought in My head and maybe a couple other anons is that best case scenario in the current scheme is inviting some group of normans to play with either some experience in Wurm or a group of newfags with a willing volunteer to teach them ways of autism. Have the volunteer have an ear to the host/map anon in case anything goes wrong village wise that isn't fixable with autismlike a distinct lack of clay on the entire map and then let them live and die on their own accord. 4/v/ already has their own group ready to try their hand at taking the current title of High Autists, but in my opinion the best case scenario is a 3 way fight. With any server drama being hilariously fed to us by the admin when someone writes the word fags next to their village and someone tries to fill it in with mixed grass

>>14275966

Just read the rules for any public server to see why they're all cancer.

>>14275966

The normie servers are filled with admins and their suck-ups.

We've had the population to fill our own village many times before, even more than most normie villages.

Throw in an invitation to cuckchan and possibly plebbits and we have a pretty good population to fill multiple kingdoms that can fight/ally with each other.

>>14274587

The best way to grind woodcutting is actually by sitting in a corner and making boatloads of kindling. If you grind by just cutting trees down, you're a nigger.

Woodcutting is fairly useful and gets you swole though. Early on, people will need high QL wood for structures and furniture, and later on wood is needed to make charcoal for steel to make plate armor.

>>14275957

Making maps right now, once finished we'll pop one up, start searching out an uncucked server host and use it to set up Wurm and we'll start playing.

TL;DR not 6 months.

>>14276066

>I didn't know the plan was to invite cuckchan and reddit.

This was all discussed in the previous threads as linked in the OP you silly fuck.

>>14276007

Is it wrong of me to get a laugh out of the idea of normans crying to the serb about all the ridiculous shit we usually do? There's always something oddly refreshing to me about admins or mods rebuking suck ups. And that really is what makes it so much better to me with having a serb of our own.

>>14276066

Just find something you can really enjoy fam. You don't need to be the worlds best ship builder although you may want a shit load of time and anime to watch as your character ques up the the actions for it but there's nothing wrong with mini goals to casually enjoy. So when it's up, feel free to come by fam.

>>14275998

>best case scenario in the current scheme is inviting some group of normans to play with either some experience in Wurm or a group of newfags with a willing volunteer to teach them ways of autism

/v/ villages do so well because of the sheer amount of manpower we all contribute to one village. There's nothing we can teach normalfags that would allow their 5 person max villages to compete with us.

>>14275966

There are a few reasons playing on a pub server is pretty much a pointless endeavor.

1. Wurm is a low population game. Even the most popular pub servers barely have more players than we could scrounge together for our own server through advertising. The only exception would be to actually play WO which is 1x/1x with no mods allowed and a sub fee and no one wants to bother with that.

2. The most popular pub servers also happen to be PvE. The community of regulars for this game are mostly carebears who don't bother with PvP. So there wouldn't really be "enemies and rivals to compete with" so much as "that annoying normalfag that talks with emoticons who lives a few miles away that we can't do anything about"

3. The community for any server with a decent playerbase likely has an in-group of "regulars" as well as random normalfag admins who see us as invaders, this breeds corruption and bullshit no one wants to deal with. Years ago we played on a pub server where this was a problem.

4. Public servers are often P2W. That's right, people sell items (or spawned tiles, or creatures, or XP, or whatever) in Wurm for real money. If there's a cash shop, there's no point playing that server, I think we can all agree on that, and that eliminates some servers as well.

5. If you join an existing server and somehow manage to find one that IS PVP, there will inevitably be a group of metagaming 40-somethings with children from England who live in a gridded prison complex surrounded by impenetrable dirt walls, decked out with 99ql Rare Glimmersteel plate, perfect mounts, artifacts, and so on. Wurm is a game about progression, if you join the game as a complete noob and there's another group already at the endgame in "competition" with you, it's pointless, they'll just swing by and fuck you up whenever they want.

6. Public servers 99% of the time can't support pirates which make up a large portion of the playerbase (let's face it, Wurm is obscure as fuck, no one owns it, and it doesn't exactly sell itself very well either). Only public pirate server I ever played on was a really shitty, laggy Russian server that was 1x/1x and I'd never go back.

>>14276095

>you must allow anyone on your KoS to leave your deed

wut

>>14276095

>if you find an exploitable bug, you are required to report it

Fuck you no-fun faggots.

>posting literally anything negative is forbidden

How am I supposed to shitpost with this kind of cuckery going on for rules?

>>14276134

>>14276155

>>14276128

>>14276095

>>14275966

This is why we need our own instead of joining someone elses.

>>14276247

>even if it is does end up as you said with shitty 5 man villages of idiots not realizing they should join up until they get their shit pushed in.

Normalfags completely and totally lack the tribalism required to form a super village like we do. There's just nothing connecting them to see each other as one of their own. At absolute best they'll form an alliance after getting a few new assholes torn.

>>14276247

The best kind of normie we can get is reddit fags. That at least gives them kind of a reason to see each other as "one of their own". Because of how Reddit works we'd have to put in a decent amount of energy just to advertise our server properly. Basically, the thread OP has to be a work of art.

>>14277028

>hey reddit, a bunch of nazis are playing on a server where they get to retake Constantinople from the Religion of Peace

>are you soy enough to stop them?

>>14277895

>we're outnumbered 10:1

Yes please. Trying to enlarge the town under constant threat of assault by both beast and horde would be glorious.

Is serb alive? If it isn't what server are you guys playin on ?

>>14278203

Serbian is kill. I've just been dicking around on a 1x Nip serb with no-one on it.

>>14278203

Practice serb is supposedly trying to unfuck itself atm, tho how true that is can be anyone's guess. Little to no communication at all over that whole shindig. Somebody mentioned Jed's Boat Haus Bote. Was dicking around there before, haven't been back since. Dead as dead can be.

>>14278233

Little to no communication at all over that whole shindig

Is there communication going on about the REAL server though? Because if not I'd imagine a lot of people including myself are going to give up on this whole thing before it's even started up again

>>14278240

There's two discshits up, the active one seems to be having a lot of map-related discussion. I think settings have been pretty much agreed on over the last few threads, it's just finetuning the map, getting in dungeons and the like, and actually finding a hostfag for the projected summer launch meme. People are clearly eager for us to have our own serb, but then, just like last time, we still have an issue with cracked serbs breaking. I can't harp on enough about how going legit would be the securest route.

>>14278257

Good to know that there's planning going on, that's all I wanted to know about. Also if this turns out to need to be a buyfag server I'd be extremely hesitant to actually buy this game.

>>14278257

>but then, just like last time, we still have an issue with cracked serbs breaking

No you don't, again, servers being cracked makes no difference to how they run.

>>14278240

I didn't want to make a post about the server that went down because I didn't want it to come off as antagonizing and I am a chronic shitposter.

The current plan is to make a map with the same host and admin as just before. The rates will be x3/x3 as far as I know. One thing to consider is that all the planning in the world won't stop the bizarre java bugs, errors and memory leaks that will throw even experienced java admins through a fucking loop. Each one of the changes you plan to make introduces a gigantic world of potential server destroying fuckups. It takes a long time to work through these and end up with a stable server, and these admins/host are not getting paid so /v/ is not just the playerbase but the beta testers. That is the only reasonable way to go about it.

>>14278285

if you're the mapmaker who did the Mediterranean map, please post the full map so it could be used on the server being brought up soon, unless you're holding onto it for something else.

>>14278266

It's either $1US or somebody who knows how to fix shit when it breaks, as will surely happen. I get the reluctance, I don't disagree with it, but that's where we are.

>>14278273

Last time, a wild spell the game didn't recognize killed the serb. This time, some random element so far unknown killed the serb. What about next time? I log in, I see the list of legit serbs, none of them are down because of code issues. Explain that to me.

>>14278285

>repost map-related discussion

Your map as shown in the OP is the result of that, nothing to repost.

>What are these?

As far as skill gain, I meant.

>>14278294

>Last time, a wild spell the game didn't recognize killed the serb. This time, some random element so far unknown killed the serb. What about next time? I log in, I see the list of legit serbs, none of them are down because of code issues. Explain that to me.

None of those have to do with the server being cracked you cuck. Legit servers stay up because they have competent people that only do changes they have tested before them going live and backup their servers hourly.

Cracking a server is literally just modifying a couple of lines on a .jar that isnt involved in the databases whatsoever.

Brohan was cracked and we introduced many changes but by following those easy steps we never had a problem.

>>14278310

>None of those have to do with the server being cracked you cuck.

Yeah, it only just keeps happening on them. That's all. Complete coincidence. Fine.

>>14278285

Never seen a seal before, do they only spawn in certain spots? Can you make nice hats out of them?

>>14278318

>Yeah, it only just keeps happening on them. That's all. Complete coincidence. Fine.

Nope, its not complete coincidence. It's mostly that on cracked servers on 8ch everyone has contact with the admins and demand changes daily and everyone has a mod they want included, which ends up being a fuckhuge list of changes (like the one that's been accumulated so far), and combining that with the overwhelming majority of hostfags that go ahead and try while having no idea what they're doing, well, you can see how it turns out.

>>14278291

>if you're the mapmaker who did the Mediterranean map, please post the full map so it could be used on the server being brought up soon, unless you're holding onto it for something else.

The server being brought up soon? The way I understand it there's a small group that wants a short server to play on now, and the original plan was to use the Mediterranean map for a summer server? Or are these now going to be one grand serb sometime inbetween? Or is there still disagreement between the two groups as to who the TRUE serb is and when the TRUE serb will be?

Also if I'm gonna post it, I'd want to send it straight to whoever the admin will be, since there are already some dungeons and secrets hidden within it, and it would be lame if someone got a hold of it and scouted for stuff beforehand of course.

>>14278294

>Your map as shown in the OP is the result of that, nothing to repost.

Oh okay, sweet.

>As far as skill gain, I meant.

So 3x/3x like the other server? Or something else?

Also, which mods? And which settings for them? I don't think any of this was decided in the thread.

>>14278322

Seals spawn near water, they like to sit on the beaches but also sunbathe on the rocks. You can use their fat for candlemaking and cooking, eat their meat, and yes their hide can be tanned into leather to make a cap.

Oh yeah, another thing: There was still never really a decision made about starter deeds. Where should they go, and for which factions? 2 factions or 3, and if only 2 which ones? Only reason I ask this is because it has to be built into the map and I like making towns.

>>14278335

Entirely up to you, dunno if you want to wait or what. If you did want to post it without being in the neojew-IRC room I'm not sure what the best path would be to take.

>Or is there still disagreement between the two groups as to who the TRUE serb is and when the TRUE serb will be?

Probably so if you're waiting for that festering pot to settle I'd just hold onto it.

>>14278327

>you can see how it turns out.

Wouldn't have been such a kick in the balls if there was a little more openness from the practice admins on what they were/are doing.

>>14278335

>still disagreement

Seemingly. I couldn't care less, but there are those who'd prefer to not have to balance the game and school.

>3x/3x

Thereabouts.

>which mods

In the OP.

>seals

Oddly enough, we had them popping up in the mine when in the first day or two.

>starter deeds

People are going to want all factions represented, there's going to be splits no matter what. One for each central part of the major landmasses? People can drift off and found there towns at random like they always do.

>>14278294

>I log in, I see the list of legit serbs, none of them are down because of code issues. Explain that to me.

>legit

Makes things less hassle to get going, plus if they're established they probably worked out most of the kinks for their needs early on. Also it's not like everyone here is an angel, there could have seen some cunt DDOSing the server or actively looking to break shit with exploits lurking around.

>>14278285

I'd like it if a section of the map was an archipelago with a lot of small islands. Tiny island homesteads are comfy as fuck.

>>14278371

>>which mods

>In the OP.

That's a list of literally every mod that guy found to be working, I was wondering which mods people actually wanted. Some of those mods wouldn't even apply to this server, for example HoTS Fixes is completely unnecessary since it would be a PVP server and No Damage would be a very bad idea.

>People are going to want all factions represented, there's going to be splits no matter what.

I guess that makes sense, fair enough.

>One for each central part of the major landmasses? People can drift off and found there towns at random like they always do.

I was just wondering because I was tempted to make one at a location of a real-life city like, say, Constantinople, but then I figured people would want to build their OWN Constantinople, and the same goes for other places, so I'll probably just build them in nondescript areas.

>>14278382

Was recently working on making the snowy and tundra areas more interesting, I added a ravine/canyon thing to one of the snowy regions, a lake-spotted area is an interesting idea though, I'll see how that works out.

>>14278389

Gotcha covered fam. There's the Aegean islands, but there's also a big archipelago in the southwest. Might add more.

>>14278401

>That's a list of literally every mod that guy found to be working

I'd be happy to make another list that includes mods that anons want to have in the server.

Please state reasons why, don't just make a list of 50 mods and get mad I didn't include them all.

I'd also like if someone could help do testing on mods, I'm testing what I can on my localhost server but I'm pretty incompetent on testing a lot of them.

>>14278475

sage for double posting

I forgot to add that when testing mods, sometimes they don't want to work together like when trying to start a server.

I suspect that some mods don't want to work together in the long run either and that could be another reason for our amalgimation servers crashing.

Some mods that add new items use item codes and other mods might use the same item codes. I'm not sure if you can just change the item codes around to make sure they are compatible.

>>14278507

You probably can just change the item codes as long as you make sure all the item code references are also changed and you don't update the mod without redoing the code changes, but I'd also suggest looking into what methods the mods tamper with to make sure you don't get stuff like two mods trying to edit the same method or something that's bound to cause issues like that.

>>14278475

Well, speaking from experience, I'll tell you that these mods are essential:

>ServerTweaks

Fixes an exploit with killing traders, and lets you disable the Fatigue mechanic. (NoFatigue mod is therefore useless)

>FixGuards

Lets an admin run a command that fixes a database error that causes a fuckton of templars to be spawned at once.

>TimerFix

Causes the action timer to actually apply to some actions it normally wouldn't, i.e. fixes a bug.

Pretty much essential:

>BetterDig

Because vanilla digging is painful.

>MoveToCenter

Adds the Move to Corner option to appease my autism

>SalveMod

So you actually know what your healing covers do.

>BulkMod

Because needing a third container to move things from one BSB to another is retarded.

>ScriptRunner

Lets admins do cool things like server join messages. Very flexible.

>SetHeight

Useful for admins when terraforming. Brainlets need not apply as this mod doubles as a server-wide parking lot creation utility. There is also a vanilla command to flatten tiles now but it's kind of different so I still like this for some things.

>WyvernAntiCheat

Because why wouldn't you want to stop cheaters? Just remember that the anti-ESP might cause lag sometimes.

Not essential, but no reason not to use/useful for changing things if you want to:

>BetterCombatLog

>StarterGear

>MeditateMod

>Armoury

>Spellcraft

>Spellmod

>Inbreedwarning

>CreatureAgeMod

>Movement Tweaks/Movemod

>HarvestHelper

Because searching the wiki for when seasons and trying to work it out with the in-game /time command is annoying. This mod lets you do /seasons and just tells you when crops will be in season.

Questionable:

>BetterFarm

The idea of letting high-level farmers farm a larger area is an interesting one. On one hand it's already easy for a couple of dudes to supply an entire town anyway. On the other hand, if someone grinds to 90 farming, maybe they deserve an extra 1 farming radius.

>SkillGainControl

Depends if you want to cap characteristics at 31 or not. If you want to just remove the cap and leave the gain rate the same, the setting you want here is "characteristicDivider = 15.0f"

>Hitchlimits

Do you want players to be able to hitch rats, cats, and other meme shit to their carts even if they pull slowly? Play with the numbers and maybe it will work. But it might also make horses/hellhorses run too fast when attached to carts.

>CustomNPC

This mod works fine but it's in Alpha so it will probably be updated frequently.

>Taxidermy

Depends if you want it in the game, really.

>>14278643

If timerfix is the one that makes sowing seeds faster then it should be essential.

>>14278285

First off Mapanon, I am giving you my energy

>>14278401

Sorry about the mod lists, I didn't have time to check the paste bins, and since that was the closest I had to the actual lists I just copy and pasted. That being said, my two cents on the questionable mods:

>better farm

Yeah sure, why not?

>skillgaincontrol

I'm fine with removing the soft cap myself not sure about others

>hitch limits

Probably check to see if horses move too quick, but if someone wants a rat mount, sure, go ahead in my opinion

>custom NPC

I'm indifferent

>taxidermy

By the love of God yes. Especially if it works with players so we can build trophy halls dedicated to raids.

>>14278643

> On the other hand, if someone grinds to 90 farming, maybe they deserve an extra 1 farming radius.

I've done that three times already, I'd really like that extra radius now.

>>14278924

Someone's gotta do it.

And it's not even close to the only job I did.

>>14279232

Id like to do any job but unfortunately the server is still down.

>>14278401

>build their own Constantinople

I'd figure this would be the case, if people want their kingdom's capital, they'd have to build it up themselves sort of thing. But I'm more worried about the village most of us will settle at

I still absolutely love your map, Mapanon, but if you cant show an updated version because of secrits that's okay, we still got the one everyone pretty much loved

>>14276155

>rules

They aren't our rules, so just ignore them

>>14279292

We'll probably all play in the same village, except for maybe 1 - 2 Hermitfags / Dorfs. Thats how WRC and Brohan went and they went well. I think we have learned our lesson by now.

>>14279292

>But I'm more worried about the village most of us will settle at

What we should probably do first is figure out which kingdom is going to be THE kingdom people should join. MR and JK are the only ones that matter, but which one should be THE kingdom?

>>14279317

Well that's easy enough, one of these is clearly the objective choice, while the other one is gay as shit. Using these rules, this will surely simplify everything and not lead to yet another 100 replies in the span of 5 minutes

>>14278643

>all these fucking mods

this is why the server breaks. none of this shit is essential. this is all "nice to have if it doesn't cause the server to shit itself".

>>14279360

Yeah we sure as fuck don't need all of those.

>>14279360

Not to say overloading on mods isn't a possibility and (if not properly tested) something we'd want to avoid, but some of that stuff (killing trader, fixing action timer, odd database caused spawns) actually seems pretty necessary, if to save us a headache in the future, mind explaining what is bothering you with them?

>>14279360

Mods don't cause the server to shit itself unless there's a specific reason why. Just having a lot of mods is not a problem at all. What I listed isn't even a lot of mods, either, that's pretty much the bare minimum and those are all (except for a couple) mods known to be working on the current version. There are dozens of other mods that WOULD be nice to have but probably won't work on this version.

>>14279475

That's a solid rule for life in general too.

The client link should give me the game right? Trying to launch it but I'm just getting my command prompt. Should I just pirate the game elsewhere?

>>14279531

>>14272201

>>14279448

>>14279496

this should be a rule of the universe

>>14279548

>>14279531

just right, just type in that mega link by hand like the slave nigger you are.

>>14279560

t-thanks

>>14279548

>File is no long available

quality links

>>14278335

What's the size of the summer map ? How flat is it ? It shouldn't be effortless to cross the map (have to make boats, roads, bridges or take time to go around natural obstacles).

And as a side note it would be more fun to never see the map but then there is the problem of getting players' trust.

Regarding the towns, i'd rather have a bare map with maybe a few traders in shacks. Not counting the dungeons n shit.

Plateau formations could be nice but may be OP

>>14278774

>better farm

If you think its gonna reduce the time spent farming you're mistaken, you fuckers are just gonna make bigger fields.

>skillgaincontrol

Cap needs to stay on it keeps the gap between casuals and autists manageable

Kinda related, from reading the last 2 threads it seems epic curve is still undecided ? If it's required for champions/missions,i think it should be on but we'd have to take the multipliers to x1-2 / x3 (closer to 1 most likely).

>>14279645

>you fuckers are just gonna make bigger fields.

I think you underestimate our autism anon.

We were already going to make the bigger fields.

Now we're making the biggest fields.

What about priest restrictions? I see them as useless as all they really do is encourage alts.

>>14279548

>>14279560

>>14279632

But yeah that megalink is down, I rechecked it a couple of time to make sure I typed it down correctly but it seems correct so far.

>>14279666

On WRC my field was 20*21.

That's 420 tiles of wemp, my dude.

Never. Again.

>>14279696

i like the no alts + priest restrictions so its not 20 niggers magfagging it up for the combat dmg bonus

>>14279709

https://mega.nz/#!xi4UgCSZ!EpbMjdPo7gi9q097CJPNJ8n7wZ80XmsVDBSFosOaJ10

>>14279773

>locking yourself out of coc/woa, flaming aura, or healing spells because you don't like pantheons

>>14279778

and then once you download that you can keep trying to connect to the server in OP until it goes up, you should probably script it and make sure it's checking atleast 5 times a minute.

>>14279778

Looking at your link and then looking at mine, I now feel like a fucking retard for missing that mistake

>xi4Ug

>xiUg4

>>14279769

>no alts

Don't let the HOTSfags hear that, they'll shit all over the walls in fury.

>>14279773

Retarded idea but if we HAD to choose seeing as there is definetly gonna be a war, as much as I'd never pick him under normal circumstances: Let's prep the bull and roll with Magranon.

>>14279819

They also can't improve items which means they're useless for most crafting jobs.

>>14279819

>Priests are meant to be a supporting pillar of the community

Yeah, in WO. In WU they're alts or "Sorry guys can't help with the village wide mega project. :^)"

I've also seen

>newlad joins

>skills up a bit

>I wanna help out guys, what should I do?

>become a priest if you want, we need chants

>newlad gets bummed out from all the content now inaccessible to him

>newlad quits

Fairly often.

>>14279819

So… If we're following a pantheon and not using my suggestion of one God only.

Our miners should follow Magranon

Our healsluts should follow Fo

Our farmers should follow Vynora

Have I got that right?

So since I plan on specing the /comfy/ fisherman/farmer/ranger lifestyle.

I'd best follow Vynora?

Also I hope Magranon gives you some serious good shit since you're only allowed to do two thing when you follow him.

>>14279876

These restrictions are not the ones placed on regular followers but rather the priest restrictions

>>14279882

Ah I get you.

How dull/hard is it being a priest?

I'm a little interested now.

>>14279896

pretty dull

the entire process can be automated using a macro that prays every 20 minutes for faith and spams spells for channeling gains

>>14279896

On top of the posted restrictions you can't improve, repair, or build buildings. The ways to gain faith are praying at an altar, which by default only gives gains at a minimum of 20 minutes apart and is capped at five gains a day. There's also preaching, but that requires at least six other players to stand near you for a minute while you do that, which never happens in /v/illages.

>>14279696

This has been discussed at length before. The problem is if you remove all restrictions, everyone just goes priest and it's a big memefest where everyone spams magic and First Aid is a joke and so on. But if you have vanilla restrictions, you pretty much need to use an alt to priest unless you just don't want to play.

So what you do instead is something in between - remove some of the most basic restrictions on priests, like building (continuing/destroying/repairing), improving, packing, and paving, and but leave the others. This means a priest can now build their own house and imp tools, but they'll need help to, say, terraform or mass-gather lumber or farm or go mining, depending on the god. For average players this annoyance means there's actually an incentive not to go priest, but for priests it lets you have more fun with the game, because honestly who the fuck wants to play a building and crafting game like wurm and not be able to build or craft at all? The vanilla restrictions are just a scam designed to help rolf make more money from WO users buying subs for their priest alts.

Anyway, you'd need a mod that lets you do this. On a previous server we edited the .jar directly to make certain actions doable by priests and I remember how it was done, it's not difficult to do, the only problem is I don't know how stable that would be. You'd probably be better off making it into a modloader mod.

>>14279913

>fish

>tend the farm

>chop wood

>cook

>get bored

>decide to draw for a bit

>leave wurm on and macro pray/preach

Seems fun_ tbh

>>14279935

I assume if I take a jaunt down to the mines I'd get enough people to preach to.

In the early mine development that is…

Well whatever, Priest of Vynora at your service lads.

>>14279953

I don't think there's anything wrong with everyone going priest. Just think of it as choosing a class.

>>14279833

Alright so I tried digging into the emu files to see what I could do to get it running since I'm still just getting a command prompt. So far I've made changes and nothings really happening I'm just getting that command prompt and yes I overwrote that .dll file

>>14279956

if you like having to run back to an altar every 20 minutes so you don't fall behind on faith gains, sure

also i'm pretty sure the people you preach to have to be of the same faith

>>14279990

stop using windows 10

>>14279995

>people you preach to have to be of the same faith

That makes zero sense. Isn't the purpose of preaching to convert people to your faith?

>>14278643

>look up Taxidermy

>literally just preserving corpses, the bigger and badder the higher the skill required

fuck yeah my man

we can finally have a trophy hall to collect the remains of a champ of every species and every unique in the game

>>14280000

it's more of a sermon than anything

>>14280000

You give sermons to your flock to boost your own faith. You spam nonbelivers in chat and outside their homes because what the fuck else are you gonna do all day besides harass non believers?

>>14279985

>I don't think there's anything wrong with everyone going priest.

The problem is that it kind of invalidates a large portion of the game. There's no reason to use First Aid when there's at least 2 or 3 people who can spam Light of Fo over and over, and Cure Medium is enough to heal pretty much any single wound anyway and it's obtained at 32 Faith, almost immediately.

Honestly the other priests aren't even that bad, it's mostly just Fo's ability to heal and heal and heal that's ridiculous. If everyone could go priest for free, that would mean everyone just goes Fo priest for the stamina boost on Grass/Dirt/Tree tiles (read: half the map) and OP healing potential. From a meta perspective if you're WL there's not much of a point even picking another god as a priest. Three of Vynora and Magranon's spells are deity's demise spells that do literally nothing because the code is broken - Fo doesn't waste space with these. 25% damage bonus in combat is barely going to matter when your enemy can replenish their health and you can't, and Vynora doesn't get a combat bonus at all. Vynora meanwhile has Nimbleness, but of course Fo has Willowspine which is the counter. Fo's abilities also help his priests evade hostile animals (you know, those things that kingdoms have prowling around as sentries?) and breed better mounts by removing bad traits and mass-grooming. Meanwhile Mag can uh, sniff out ores, on a single tile, at level 65… but only above ground. Oh, and Vynora gets to grind Puppeteering 10% faster.

TL;DR The game will be a giant meme with no priest restrictions, please don't do this. Even if you overhauled spells with Spellcraft to balance them there's still the fact that everyone is now capable of using magic and there's no specialization involved.

>>14280115

Fair enough.

>>14280128

>You spam nonbelivers in chat and outside their homes because what the fuck else are you gonna do all day besides harass non believers?

Sold. Definitely being a priest now.

ayy

>>14279788

frostbrand is the same spell as flaming aura. magranon is kind of shit for spells tbh. mass stamina and smite are dope

>>14280146

sacrificing also awards 1 favor on a 30 min cooldown so you're bound to get 100 alignment if you're an enchantbot.

making and saccing cordage rope is an easy way to max the deed faith bonus.

enchants benefit from an altar bonus which scales based on altar ql, material and proximity. 70ql gold and maybe silver maxes this. 80ql for wood and stone.

>>14279997

Thanks for the advice, I'll make sure to let my computer know when it shoves windows 10 down my throat whenever I re-install 7 again.

>>14279990

>I'm still just getting a command prompt.

Ah, I had that issue a long while back. The solution should be the same now as it was then: If you're getting a command prompt, that means your Microsoft Visual C++ programs are broken. You have to redownload those from 2008 to current. That should do it.

>>14279819

There really should be a God that allows digging alongside paving and gardening. You literally can't grow or pave without terraforming, it's maddening that Rolf would be this much of an asshole.

>>14280528

Honestly digging should be welcomed by all gods, would make more sense, you know since farming is welcomed by all.

Except Libila.

>>14280585

I would welcome a rewrite. Have six gods total, three male, three female, each specifically liking and hating certain things. And yes, certain things should be made acceptable by most gods. Looking at the restrictions, there isn't a whole lot of sense for what belongs to who. Being privy to farming and paving but not digging? Mag is good for farming and gardening and animals, but what the fuck is mining got to do with that? Why is Fo the only one that's into alchemy and healing when he's suppose to be the god of war? Shouldn't that by Mag and/or Vyn?

>>14280139

What if we increasing the cost of healing spells?

>>14278643

Alright I mostly just copied your post

https://pastebin.com/r4ZuWgAs

>>14281299

>gets 50 views in 3 minutes

Fucking CIAniggers crawling everything

>>14281311

I remember seeing a whebbit post posted to /pol/ about using fishing links to easily catch bots as they click on such things even with a warning within seconds, we could use such a thing here to see where they are coming from, however the image also mentioned in most cases shillbots and the like use amazonaws servers so you can't really see whos behind it.

>>14274884

WHERE'S THE SERVER

>>14281311

>50 views in 3 minutes

M-m-maybe it just means everyone's really excited for the summer serb?

>>14281749

there are 40 UIDs and an uncountable number of lurkers.

>>14281749

it's because the paste was unlisted, meaning anyone could see it on the side, including bots that stare at all public pastes

Champ slots are limited and in my experience you don't really have that Fo-Inflation, even though I agree that there are not all that many reasons not to be a Fo priest. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

>>14280628

Fo isn't the god of war, Magranon is. It's why Magranon accepts metal things and why he approves of mining. More minerals for the war effort. The reason he's fine with farming is because he is a White Light god and it's what unites all White Lighters against the Black Light where everything, especially the land itself, is (((corrupted))).

>>14276007

>>14275998

Can we pretend our host is just a 4/vg/ guy and everyone here is actually from 4/vg/? I don't want these people reminded that 8ch exists, this place is already gotten bad enough.

>>14283359

You can't put the genie back in the bottle.

>>14283368

waaaay 2 big and no trees or clay visible.

Stop relying on the generator and make the damn map with the erosion tool. Also I think land on the borders might be a bad idea because the game world doesn't wrap around.

>>14283396

it's not finished in that shot ya dongus, spoilers

>>14283410

I dunno man, that smells like damage control.

Better wow us with your next post or I'm going delve deep into my smug anime folder for the strict purpose of bullying (you)

>>14283368

Those slopes look pretty crazy, might wanna check that out in-game to see. Also I think the coastlines might be fucked, as in they're not close enough to the water. The small islands and barrier islands in the west are interesting though.

Also yeah like >>14283396 said you're going to have >1000 slope sheer cliffs at the edge of the map because there's no transition there, it just goes from land to water.

>>14283420

I am not the admin, I was relaying what he said in the jewirc

>>14283692

you niggers want to release said map so we mass backup it communally rather than have the situation where the "dream map" we wanted got corrupted that one time.

>>14284239

I'm not saying it's a "dream map", but it sure as fuck is a lot better than the last one.

WORK HARD, WORK STEADY MAPANON

Also, to all lurkers and posters looking to join, friendly reminder that thatch is comfy as hell

>>14284364

This is my (you). Please give it a good home.

>>14284364

I'm ready, but I also would be okay with waiting.

>>14284392

They picked a terrbile hoster and got meme'd on by russian hackers, I think.

>>14284392

Most of the conversation has taken place in the IRC-cord. The server began having severe issues with a memory leak, it would spike and it would hang for ten minutes at a time then crash. Admin went to look and it was spawning millions of items, so many the server had run out of slots in the DB for items. The problem was half fixed and then the site became a problem and the server was getting DDoS'd and shit and the host took it down because he was within his limit to get a refund. A new map has been made, the issues sorted and now he is looking for a server provider to use preferably with linux that does not limit his file alteration so he can put the next server up.

>>14284510

Yeah, problem is fixed far as I'm aware. And hey, if you know of a reliable linux server provider that doesn't stop you from editing files for fucking lack of admin access by all means please do share

i would like to play again also

>>14284364

frothing at the mouth wanting cock tbh desu

>>14284364

TAKE MY YOU

god only knows its time to wurm again

>>14280628

I say we burn this one at the stake tbh,i could write paragraphs worth of bully for this particular heretic,but i'ma just come out and say we torch this one,just this one i promise.

>>14284364

You cannot understand the sheer sadness inhabiting my heart,for i am unable to answer Magranon's call.

I can hear him even now,whispering to me glory of day's past,wondering where have i gone,if i have abandoned him.

I feel helpless,for i cannot present to him the cold lifeless bodies of my foes,so i can prove that my blood still boils with ardent devotion to him.

>>14284364

Have at it.

>>14282854

lets please not do champions again

they're fucking broken, champ points are ass, and they promote passiveness

t. champion

>>14284364

I want to get some practice so I'm not totally useless at the game when the official Serb is ready to go.

>>14284364

IF YOU ARE ACTUALLY MAPANON KEEP WORKING HARD

If you're the other anon I might hop onto your serb for practice, but it's starting to get super busy for me with these classes don't ever take more than 13 credits, fellow burgers, especially if it's STEM shit

>>14285603

Don't worry, the veterans of the old server started out not knowing shit about the game either.

I'm sure they'll be more than willing to teach you.

>>14284364

RELEASE THE SERVER

classfaggots can fuck off to their diversity degrees

>>14284364

Don't know how to play Wurms, just wanna play with /v/bros

>>14284364

JUST

>>14283396

>waaaay 2 big

that's impossible. the map should be huge. i should not be able to walk across the map in an hour.

>>14286714

>Wurm wasn't paved in a day.png

>>14286714

I say we start on the drumstick and later migrate to the chicken wing.

>>14286714

Can you set the max/min slope properly before eroding so you don't get cliff beaches?

Make the meme map usable

>>14286714

this is fine, just put it on the server and start it

>>14286899

>all those mountains

>no trees

>no clay visible

>>14286899

Why is the entire map sand and lava?

New practice server may be happeningsooner than soon

>>14288850

please post info about it, not just the ip

>>14288850

anon if this is bait,i will bully you for the rest of this thread.

>>14288860

i'm just passing on the intel from the inside

>>14288951

IT'S COMING

>>14288979

give irc you nerd

>>14289010

It has been given you absolute nerd,also,its disagreement shit,don't go there anon

>>14289017

>you don't want to do that anon

>trust me, it's terrible

>wanting to know how a select few are controlling things from the shadows, that's just silly

>heh heh heh

>>14289017

the invite expired though, you immense baka

>>14289029

>he thinks i'm gatekeeping

Fine go there,just another list to be on,at least take care with what you say.

>>14289042

wanna take a guess how i didn't know that?

>>14288860

>>14288850

>>14288979

>>14289010

>>14289017

>>14289029

>>14289042

>>14289049

Next one to use spoilers unneeded is a bumboy

>>14289127

ok

>>14289127

Spank me, daddy.

>>14289042

https://disagreement.gg/QD3DYY

>>14289127

:^)

>>14289127

melons = lemons

>>14289178

>>14289175

>>14289182

>>14289185

>>14289193

No homos allowed in the holy land.