/v/ - Video Games

I hope you get aids and die OP. I also hope you get banned for posting shitty threads.

>>14161690

Who shit in your Cheerios?

>>14161683

>as NPC players start to offer a better experience

implyign

I would discuss but you're too busy sucking all the cocks you see and wouldn't listen anyway, OP.

I'd rather ERP with a virtual-reality AI than with another neckbeard. I mean, I've tried looking at a catgirl and not imagine the neckbeard controlling it but it just doesn't work.

They won't, AI aren't able to handle creative interaction like RP well and they obviously won't cut it for usual chatroom banter that most casual MMO players engage in. AI will revolutionize enemy AI in games before they become capable of providing convincing replacements for human interaction, and the former isn't forthcoming as of the moment.

>>14161706

You did, shitposter

>>14161803

>stop being interested in what I'm not interested in

Wow, it's even lamer than the previous version.

>>14161683

Ending your one-sentence post with "discuss" doesn't mean you have come up with a discussion-worthy topic.

>>14161795

>implying that means it won't happen

>>14161683

MMOs are pointless.

If i wanted to grind and read walls of text without any of the competition or unscripted roleplay of other humans i would just play a JRPG instead.

I play MMOs for the feeling of cameraderie and knowing I'm making a journey together with other people. With very fancy NPCs it still just isn't the same.

Long term, FPS-MMOs are going to replace RPG-MMOs in the same way that FPS's replaced Adventure games in the 90's. MMOs are boring slogs that are made tolerable only by their skinner-box mechanics and having a group of friends to play with that make it feel less like a second job.

Well, guess what. Now FPS games have the same grind, the same skinner boxes, and the same groups of friends in PVE and PVP gametypes. They give you the same false sense of long-term "investment" and feeling of building a character - but they're not boring micromanagement click-fests.

And best of all… now you don't even have to git gud, since companies have already been outed as cooking up all sorts of behind-the-scenes matchmaking fuckery to ensure that you're always going to be placed in games in which you have a high chance of winning… unless the algorithm predicts that you're particularly susceptible to microtransactions at the moment, in which case you better get ready to get your shit pushed in so hard that your wallet falls out.

>>14161815

It just means we won't live to see it, so it mostly doesn't matter

>>14162976

I agree with your prediction. Id even go so far and claim the removal of the true single player formula. Im watching the new MechWarrior closely and Im not even pessimistic anymore. Shits gone to hell already, we are witnessing the apocalypse unfold in real time.

MMO cashgrab mechanics in single player games. Games-as-a-service shit already announced and shilled on media outlets. The perverse pushing of cloud memory. This is the future we didnt prevent.

>>14161683

>NPC players

>Non Playable character players

what is wrong with you?

>>14163742

He means AI, retard.

>>14164080

He did? I was suspecting he meant emergent MMO's like Eve where NPC's would be replaced by players.

>>14164096

I just started praying again and you come with that hypnosis fetish crap.

>>14161683

Eventually people will prefer AIs over actual humans for stupid shit, like who makes your coffee and who files your tax returns. That includes everything in MMOs since the only reason people work together in those is to finish game content and ERP, both of which will be better done with AI.

Developer provided solutions are invariably shittier

See: Matchmaking over server browsing

>>14165256

>only reason people work together in those is to finish game content and ERP

Nice projecting, I cant enjoy multiplayer games where I cant work with other people since it adds so much replay value.

Every interaction will be different and fun and no AI in our lifetime will reach the level of interaction even your avarage retarded kid can.

>>14165511

>Those don't exist anymore

Yeah I know, its propably why I've been bored for like a decade now.

I keep hearing even normalfags say they want fun coop/multiplayer games without microtransactions but they still buy the lates regurgitated shit by companies like EA.

Just why do so many people on here love playing against AI so much over PVP? Are people on multiplayer really that bad and restrictive that people here would rather dance around blind enemy bots for hours and roleplay with NPCs despite only having a few lines of dialogue?

>>14165723

OP specifically talked about MMO gaming, where PvP is always terrible anyway.

>>14165625

For every new gamer turning cynical there's a naive kid jumping into gaming.

>>14165807

Why did it sage?

>>14165723

Bots are predictable as well as scale-able.

You can, eventually, set a bot to match your skill level and give you a genuine challenge. They are on demand and always available, and will stop the moment you get tired.

However, and I believe most importantly, you can make bots play the game the way it was meant to be played. No cheesy imbalanced loadout/class build/map position to contend with. No Meta-game fuckery. No net deck with 2000 bucks poured into it. If you like something, a bot will give you an even match rather than choose the hard counter to your selection 100% of the time, unless you want it to.

And yeah, PvP in general for MMO's is horrible anyways. You can't balance PvP in a game that even remotely respects its PvE without massive time investment.

>>14164096

>spoilered porn is allowed

>banned for posting spoilered porn

Fags.

>>14165898

>mods actually doing a proper job

>ever

You should know by now that if they put in even a little bit of proper effort we wouldn't be having the problems we have today.

>>14161683

that assumes theyre going to write better npcs, ai and make better games. this optimism is not suited for this world.

>>14166789

>not keeping a couple of them around

>not launching them into the sea via catapult

>not making a competition out of it

>>14166789

>not installing nigger mods