/v/ - Video Games

>Make game with friend

>Put it on Steam

How does Steam pay us? Anyone know? It's a long way off but it is something I worry about. Do they divide up the profits if any, or does it all go to the one who submitted the game and then they have to pay the other person? What about other sites like GoG??

>>13970204

I presume they would pay the company that made the game for each game sold.

They wouldnt pay you personally like an employee. Because then you are entitled to lots of rights (such as healthcare and holiday time) that they wouldnt want to provide.

Its up to you and your friend how you structure your company. If you had 50 50 ownership then the money would effectively be split 50 50.

someone make a necromancer simulator

>>13970591

give it a dong that flaps about tbh

>>13970935

fuck where's that audio from?

>>13970935

>the mentality of your generation is just boggles my mind

>your generation

that sounds like she's hearing shit from her tv chat shows and just regurgitating it right back

Your game DOES support OpenGL 1.1, RIGHT?

>>13971066

that seems like just shifting the blame rather then actually doing anything about the problems of modern society tbh

>>13970994

if you need to worry about cache misses, either you are computing a LOT of stuff, or you have bigger problems somewhere else, games shouldn't need to care about this, unless you plan on simulating a entire world at once

which you shouldn't either, as everything should have varying levels of abstraction, and the further from the player, the more simple and abstract the simulation should be

>>13971058

>you don't need more than 640K of memory, RIGHT?

>>13971144

640,000 is a big number. You should be able to make it fit.

>>13971135

>games shouldn't need to care about this

Ubisoft and Insomniac disagree with you.

>>13971175

Future proofing is better anyways. Make sure that your game can still be played in 20 years as opposed to making sure that your game can be run on Athlon computers.

>>13971289

>>13971265

So, are those guys confirmed jewish or italian?

>>13971293

I think one of them is a Proboscis monkey

>>13971265

>>13971289

That's not real, is it?

>>13971486

Forgot to add that upperArm_* and upperThigh_* bones have inherit rotation unchecked.

>>13971709

this nigga gay?

>>13971084

The preceding generation doesn't want to take responsibility for the problems that it sowed into the next one. The next generation understandably doesn't want to take responsibility for those problems either, since they didn't cause them, but it doesn't matter if they want to, because they're the ones who will face the worst consequences of not fixing them, and they'll be alone with the problems once the previous generation dies. I have a hunch that this is true of all generations, but it might be different with this one, since taking responsibility is one of the things that wasn't properly passed between generations this time around.

>>13972470

that seems reasonable but I think that's the side effect of Americanization

pls rate my wip.

>>13972855

pretty decent actually

>>13972876

Thank you, anon. Makes me smile

>>13972913

honestly, that's impressive if you did it by key framing

So far i managed to create 3D character controls in godot. I have no idea how to make it clamp on the ground while it's grounded. which makes it slide on slopes. Dot product will be great but i have no idea how to dot product. i need a drawing.

Can post GDscript code if anyone willing to messround with it. because honestly these controls sucks.

>>13972930

I mean, it's not that big of a deal, right? I did keyframe it, but it's not like I did it out of memory - I used videos of people running as references.

>>13972979

I find it pretty amazing tbh

>>13972971

God damnit i want to post a webm but shit doesnt work.

>>13970994

That is a highly context-dependent question without a straight answer. Do you generate the data exactly once, then iterate over it exactly once? More than once? I so, are you sure you need to sort it? Can you perhaps change your generation to generate it sorted? Do you do the occasional insert/remove? Lots of them? Do you iterate every frame? Do you search sometimes? Every frame? Lots of searches each frame? Maybe a self-sorting structure is suitable (tree or whatever, but only if you're not iterating)? Can you somehow re-use partial results? If all else fails, do both and benchmark. With realistic data. Also, remember the 10% rule. If this is part of asset loading or some performance-irrelevant system (input, inventory, UI, etc) literally who cares? Do what's easiest and optimize when you can prove that you have a performace bottleneck.

>>13973126

I fucking love this place sometimes

>>13973188

If anons made games like they do memes…

>>13973235

I feel like those green lines would be massively more aesthetically pleasing if they were extruded outwards with some beveling tbh

>>13973220

I think they'd be less like easter eggs and more like just sort of nonchalantly having them pop up in the background or conversation without drawing any attention to them and such inclusions having no real impact on the gameplay. Just sort of there and accepted in the world, maybe with the slightest one-line explanation. Ancient charms believed to ward off vermin, rodents in particular. Casual swastikas here and there. Or being an inevitably important or pivotal piece of gameplay.

Or literally one thousand four hundred and eighty-eight easter eggs where all but one say "Hitler did nothing wrong" verbatim, with minor differences in presentation.

>>13973276

I appreciate the feedback anon. I'll experiment with your suggestions and post results.

>>13972971

Well the main problem is that you're probably moving with physics.

That's fine, but it can cause some unexpected stuff like the slope things. I don't know about Godot, however in unity you can change the material properties of the plane you're standing on to reduce sliding.

OR, you can apply the normal of the ground you're standing on to your rigidbody's velocity

OR you can probably just fiddle with the physics of your rigidbody until it stops

>>13972971

>>13973235

Are you using

move_and_slide(your_velocity_vector, up_vector)

?

>>13973306

I'm unsure if I explained my self well enough but looking forwards, I do like that design currently tbh

>>13973370

this thing triggers me because it reminds me of halfchan (4leaf clover) more than anything else

>>13973399

it's double infinity though

>>13973355

>>13973374

I am indeed using move_and_slide() The way it works is simply by moving it's location to where the player is looking at (which makes it stop if you ever look above or under).

>>13973476

That's not motherfucking Travian, is it?

>>13973476

They pay actual artists, while anons are usually just some autist with a dream

>games could be the most advanced art form ever created

>instead we have the worst of corporate entertainment, SJW, anime pedophiles and overall bottom trash tier artists

>>13973524

maybe

>>13973560

Speaking of Yandev - anybody got a compilation of his autism handy? I keep hearing about his shenanigans but never actually seen anything but that Cuphead video.

>>13973571

>cuphead video related to yanderedev

what?

>>13973581

>>13973578

wait a second i had to do a double take

is he storing info using a fucking string?

>>13973606

Are we really so bad that he groups us with cuckchan?

>>13973622

the really autistic fuckers here are really are bad

>>13973622

From a certain point of view. I think the better way to interpret it is that he can't handle any hostility whatsoever.

Also nice dubs.

>>13973578

I mean, I have some fucking spaghetti code in places but jesus fuck.

>>13973622

To the average normie, both 4chan and 8chan are "dens of evil". They don't differentiate between the two. To them, the notion of anonymity just makes them think that every board is child rapists and doxxxxers. Because, of course, if you were a good moral person, you wouldn't need to be anonymous, isn't that right? Nothing to fear, nothing to hide?

>>13973636

gamezard comes to mind

>>13973636

The thing is, if you just take the criticism and move on, even the most autistic fucks will eventually forget about it, now if you have a bitch fit you will be marked as a lolcow forever

>>13973653

I don't know who that is

>>13973664

I don't know about that, I've had the brunt of it for awhile now and to start with I didn't have a bitch fit as it were

>>13973664

The problem with that is that not all criticism is valid. Some people spout uninformed opinions that they have no right to even spout. Telling these people to go fuck themselves should be ok.

>>13973678

you'll know him when you see him

>>13973688

was he that one guy who kept on trying to promote his stupid open world game?

>>13973680

I agree. But unfortunately that goes out the window once you actually have a game associated with you.

>>13973680

Well you'd have to really massively sperg out ala Cuckdev level tier autism to really cause ripples that can be felt across multiple boards.

With a name attach to it, of course.

>>13973680

I think that having a history is useful if you are generally trying to improve your self which I try to do thus is why I prefer allowing people to keep track of me so that I can have a history online

>>13973715

I have a good hunch who you are tbh

>>13973721

tbh

>>13973743

why'd you drop your project?

>>13973684

To add to that, certain things are very subjective, mainly when it concerns graphics styles. I've heard both good and bad things about mine, more good than bad and I decided to just stick with it and make the game, and get

>>13973699

Hence why, if anyone finds the dumb shit I've said and done in the past, I'd hope that "i was a retarded sperg" is a good enough excuse.

>>13973709

We're gonna make it, anon.

>>13973715

I have social media now, which is mostly just me responding to interesting vidya discussions I see, and that's all well and good. My bigger concern is my past sperginess before I got my shit together, which I pray won't come back to bite me too hard.

>>13973747

rust dev made some comment to the effect of "is my stuff really as bad at that guy's?" mixed with a loss of momentum as i started to move away from what i was comfortable doing.

i have a rather large folder of abandoned projects.

>>13973743

>>13973769

i remember that thread. really though you shouldn't treat stuff like that as too big a deal.

half the time it's just banter and the other half who fucking cares just make your goddamn game and improve as you go.

>>13973753

it depends if someone or a group hates you or not, you'll be fine if you're actually liked but the moment there's an excuse to really lay into you then that's it, have to get a new identity and all that. worst of all is the second-hand aftermath of it if, people who heard about it make what you did out to be even worse and no amount of explaining or being honest will help fix that ripple effect because disgustingly enough no one gives a shit, over the years I've had of this kinda bs I've had about 3 people with honest intentions actually let me explain my self. doesn't even matter if you actually did something bad either, they'll make it sound as bad as possible cherry picking your words and giving half truths.

the reaction to people having an identity here is the reason why everyone hates someone who does but it's still your fault for it because reasons.

>>13973769

garry is a fucking hack from those two imagines I can tell a higher level of bloody quality because it isn't just straight up stolen assists like his trash game is. if you take things at a slower pace I think you'll be able to complete your projects, just don't give up on them entirely even if it doesn't look as good as you want it to. it's still experience and practice that every dev needs, garry most of all.

>>13973789

i'm actually working on a new project so its fine.

>>13973743

oh look it's my old model Elliot Rodger

>>13972671

As a game: uninspired/10

As a tool for practice: good-enough-if-you-are-learning-something/10

>>13973469

Try adjusting floor_max_angle.

http://docs.godotengine.org/en/latest/classes/class_kinematicbody.html?highlight=move_and_slide#class-kinematicbody-move-and-slide

To get the vectors of the camera facing right and forward, do this:

var right = camera.get_global_transform().basis[0]
var forward = right.rotated(Vector3(0,1,0), PI/2)

>>13973709

weed does the opposite and makes me a lazy fuck

>>13973944

Well it does indeed assume basic rigging but the damped tracks and whatnot for arms is very subtle. Its to smooth the rotation from your hand to the shoulder. Something that a rigger should know a rig is for. Its not for absolute beginners. If you have questions though id be happy to help.

>>13974344

It looks off, the middle part seems to move out really far, and I think the upper parts should have their own wiggle, with each sections wiggle being smaller and faster the higher it gets. Also, increase the speed.

>>13973095

Delete the old rig, generate the new rig, and reparent without affecting weights? As long as the bones have the same names/hierarchy it might work

>>13974496

A lot better. I kinda feel like you could increase the speed a bit more, but I think that speed gets the point across.

>>13973494

<games could be the most advanced art form ever created

This isn't the LOL thread

>>13973235

https://godotengine.org/asset-library/asset?user=Gokudomatic

download the fps controller and study it, is for kinematic bodies, just change move() function

>>13973489

>pay

>Implying they don't just promise to pay you and use the samples you send them

>>13971361

He posted on twitter, it's a matter of belief. But I can't see why he would lie.

>>13975037

They technically could, as they have the greatest degree of complexity. But that's like saying a machine is the best machine because it has the most parts and does the most things. It could cook you breakfast, drive you to work, and cure cancer at the same time, but it's much more likely that something is going to break down before that happens. And even that's assuming that everyone involved in the production was highly skilled and knew exactly what they were doing.

>>13973476

It's been bothering me lately that there seems to be a large divide between internet artists and professionals. Not just because they're not doing it for different reasons and see different results for it, but because it seems like the professionals have learned things that internet artist haven't, and it worries me that there's knowledge out there that's hidden. Half-assed DeviantArt anime and game art tutorials are a diamond dozen, and produce similarly half-assed, diamond dozen results. Despite the much, much better results I've seen from the people who praise Loomis, I've yet to see them produce industry-quality work. Where do you learn to make concept art for major movie or game studios? It can't all be grinding through self-critique. There must be art schools that aren't just postmodern snowflake "art" factories, right?

>>13975175

That implies that there aren't people who make a living doing it. Most stories I've heard about practices like that happen on DeviantArt and porn sites, probably because the stakes of DeviantArt are only egos, fangames, and furry porn. People who get paid real money for art are on sites like ConceptArt or ArtStation. Come to think of it, maybe it's worth asking the people there how they learned. Would they actually help, or just give smoke and mirrors, coupled with a paywall?

>>13973489

>just some autist with a dream

Even the people at the very top had to be that at one point or another.

>>13975416

It's a doggy dog world out there, anon.

>>13975416

It's true, though. If you think you're going to follow a tutorial like that and produce something that will compete you in a doggy dog world like this one, you're soarly mistaken.

>>13975429

Allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go.

Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake.

>>13973578

this hits close, i just learned to do enums

>>13973602

Dude, you have no idea how many times he sperged out when people analyzed his code and went "wait, you're doing that? It's better to do this." He can't even read a fucking stacktrace. In fact, I'm fairly certain he doesn't even have a design doc that isn't "milk Reddit with Patreon."

I mean, I understand having some messy and poorly optimized code, but fuck me, at least I try to make it better.

>>13975563

Cross? That usually refers to producing a vector that's orthogonal to both input vectors and its length is a volume of a prism that they together outline. What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

>>13975610

probably trying to make his dumb plane roll as mentioned in previous threads.

>>13975623

Well all you have to do is rotate up vector against front vector of the plane.

>>13975610

As said by the other anon, I'm trying to rotate red by blue, shouldn't have said cross.

>>13975632

How is this done? As previously mentioned multiplying the quaternion of blue by red doesn't work

>>13975643

You create a quaternion rotation out of your rotation axis and desired angle (that's usually just stick X position), then multiply your other vectors by it.

>>13971058

My game works on MESA drivers which only implement OpenGL 1.1, as well as a "Radeon FireGL" driver that implements OpenGL 1.3. Other than that I don't have other machines that have drivers below 2.0 installed. I haven't tested my program on Win95, maybe you can test it for me?

https://a.uguu.se/ibDYAx1MYs1w_sigma2_build_121317.zip

>>13975650

That's what I'm doing. It doesn't seem to be working

>>13975704

Then you must be doing it wrong.

Your setup: a triplet of cardinal direction vectors for your airplane.

Pick up roll input, put it in a variable, normalize and calibrate. Create a quaternion from forward vector and the variable. Apply to the other two vectors. Same algorithm applies for pitch and yaw. Or you could opt in for realistic simulation and apply force at wingtips depending on input value.

>>13976624

I'm staring at musescore blank sheet and feel lost.

>>13976708

I guess I'll simply try to copy this song using some sci fi chord progression, some basic melody, a simple bass, maybe two strings and some percussion.

still is something I haven't done before, so is not easy.

i've made a thing that converts a 2D array into a 1D array and then into a list

>>13973370

But that's the non-swastika edit.

>>13975697

Thanks anon, but I was just shitposting.

>>13977303

Man, that webm reminds me of early GamerGate. What a blast that was.

>>13975513

That puts you above Yandev, because you actually fucking learned it instead of having a shitfit over people telling you what you were doing wrong.

YanDev wasn't an idiot because he was a shit coder. Every coder starts out as a shit coder. He was an idiot because he couldn't sort shitposting from constructive criticism and he refused to improve in the face of facts. He was a narcissist who thought he was better than people because he was actually making something (which, to be fair, is true to some degree. He was making something and actually making progress despite his flaws), and used that as a crutch. Were some anons abusive? Sure, but that's to be expected here. To post here (especially with a tripcode), you have to learn to sort out good posts from bad, and good criticism from bad. Ignore the bad criticism (or tell them to fuck themselves) and heed the good advice. YanDev lumped it all into one bucket and considered it all abuse and snapped because he hadn't lurked long enough to learn the ropes.

>>13977702

Our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our games, especially since they're so well programmed and all.

>>13977263

>>13977302

>>13977303

>>13977321

>>13977412

Thanks, not like I can quit now even if I wanted to due to sunk cost anyway.

>>13977806

>anon just like makes game

>car door mafia breaks his finger

truly, it is anons vs. the world

>>13977702

Yeah, I'm imagining it would be like a open world version of Conker that is a little like Mario Odessy.

That could be pretty nice.

Worlds would all be satire of other popular games.

>>13977806

I was wondering what you'd been up to. What happened?

>>13977848

add a mountain, call it skyrim 2, and its done

>>13977848

>no dick

>still a solid 9/11

>>13977505

I almost want to give up coding, it is so fun to learn once you know enough to learn more by yourself, but i feel i don't have that kind of time anymore.

>>13977618

weight painting should't crash your shit

>>13977912

Will we be seeing a dark and edgy sequel to Speebot with realistic graphics and cover-based shooting?

my shitty breakout is 99% complete.

pls rate.

>>13978239

Some real interesting videos you have there mister cuckchanner.

>>13978354

ayy kek.

>>13978496

You just need to make them spin fast enough so they look like they're standing still.

Anyone know of an open discord server that helps people learn UE4?

>>13978714

https://docs.unrealengine.com

why does it have to be a discord server?

>>13978714

Sure thing, just go on this site called "reddit", and search "unreal engine", or "game development". I'm sure they have an official discord you can ask questions in! dont come back

>>13978777

>>13978770

Im just not good learning by reading. I process things much quicker when I have somebody helping me. I feel retarted but its the fastest way to learn for me. And there aren't enough videos to get me to the point where I can self-check and troubleshoot my problems. I need a helping hand.

I know you guys don't care, you have your own problems.

>>13978891

Try Game Dev League discord channel. They're very helpful. Just be patient and polite and someone will help you. I know what you mean by learning best when taught - I have the same problem. If you need to learn UE4 in particular, look up Unreal Slackers.

>>13978891

There's the Unreal Engine forums and answer-hub. There's also some unofficial IRCs.

https://forums.unrealengine.com/community/general-discussion/94-let-s-chat-in-irc-freenode-unrealengine?36-Let-s-chat-in-IRC-freenode-unrealengine=

>>13978949

>>13978918

Thanks guys, I appreciate it.

>>13976997

>>13976997

>>13978868

>Not sure why you guys are bashing Reddit and Discord

Not sure why you're here and don't fuck off back to there you fucking faggot.

>>13979154

Didn't mean to quote the swastika guy, that was when I wanted to post it but >>13977401 beat me to it.

>>13977848

clever inventory pic

>>13979330

>tfw worked at Walmart for 2 years and going into retail hell again

>>13979438

This is why I stick to animation and coding. Fuck dealing with deforms, man. Hats off to you for doing it.

>>13979438

Looks fine to me. What's the problem?

>>13979330

>actually getting responses

i thought the "we'll call you" thing was just a joke?

nobody ever calls me

>>13979541

Oh no, they're automated emails saying "thanks for applying, but fuck you there's someone better. We'll also rub it in by saying we'll totally keep you on record in case there's an opening."

>>13979548

I've had Amazon contact me three times over the past 2 years for an interview in NYC (I'm in fucking Ontario)

>>13979684

At least in C#, enumerators are syntactic sugar that appear on any IEnumerable<T> object, where T is the collection type. They're basically a contract to ensure that you can create a state object that checks all the objects in that collection, and returns it.

… Amusingly, the C# performance guidelines from the MSDN specifically say to prefer for (classic) over the foreach enumerator, even though it's a first-class language feature, and LINQ is built on top of it. Wild.

At least that's how it is over here. I assume Vulkan is doing the same meme with it

>>13971024

dude whispering at the end ruined my boner. thanks.

>>13979717

I honestly just want people to stop reinventing "structured programming" constructs because it just makes your programming skills less transferable to other languages as the syntax diverges for no discernible reason. Vulkan exposes a C API and I have had no trouble writing Vulkan code using normal C constructs, so it's probably just your tutorial being weird. In the tutorial I followed they just use a normal for loop, this tutorial was also in C++ but they did not use an "auto" which, I still have no idea what the semantics of that thing is.

https://vulkan.lunarg.com/doc/view/1.0.26.0/linux/tutorial/html/03-init_device.html

>>13979760

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd293667.aspx

>>13979760

>>13979772

Auto is still useless, in my humble opinion; so I'd recommend you don't use it.

>>13979772

>>13979796

so it just derives the type from what you first initialize it too? this sounds like a really bizarre "anti-feature" in that it could only cause serious bugs and confusion reading from type uncertainty.

>>13979811

It's done at compile time, rather than runtime, though, at least from skimming the MSDN

>>13979817

I get that, i'm just still astounded that people are copying the second-worst feature of python (implicit typing) into other languages. Isn't there such a thing as learning from a mistake?

>>13979835

Again, using C# here, it is somewhat useful depending on your context. Like I said, foreach isn't terribly useful since IEnumerable doesn't even expose the collection size by default, but when you have shit like IDictonary<TKey,TSource>.KeyValuePair<TKey,TSource> as an auto generated type, it's nice to just slap down something like "foreach (var ITEM in myDict)" and go from there

>>13979858

still not really getting through to me why not explicitly knowing what type your variable is, is a good idea. besides you can just create such a function yourself by accepting a function pointer- such as: void my_foreach(item_t i, dict_t d, (void)(*func)(item_t, dict_t, …));

>>13980129

Truly the spookiest story of our generation.

>>13980129

>Baby, I love you

>What's wrong?

FUCKING WOMEN

>>13980185

what is it honey =/= what's wrong

Holy shit this is a neat idea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca5BYKRVXHM

>>13980259

asking what's up isn't exactly asking what's wrong tbh although it does lead into that with how that's lined up but I chalk that up to who ever writing it not knowing English as their first language

>>13979468

That's not mine. Sorry for the confusion. That's just well done work that showed me how shit my shoulder deformations are. I'm still fighting with my mesh.

>>13979491

You're a brighter man than me. I'm about to dump this shit and make a Thomas Was Alone clone.

>>13980278

Unity mobile games will always be at least 12mb if i remember correctly just due to the engine packing all kinds of shit you can't turn off, even if your game is completely empty. Still better than UE4 though, and honestly, i've seen basic shit apps that have over 100 mb and people still download it in the millions. If few mb is still too much for you i recommend trying godot or something.

>>13971066

How millennials are

>killing the big mac

>killing focus groups

>killing marmalade

>Diet staples

>fashion

>harley sales

>oil industry

>churches

If you think any of these things are good for society then you must be an white man in your 60's working for goldman sachs or retarded

>>13980283

That is pretty cool, I can't really think of many games where the core premise relies on changing the rules of the game. I remember playing a flash game called Tower of Heaven that did something similar; except that the player has no control over how the rules change and it simply got harder as the rules piled on.

>>13980608

I wish I could remember the name of the game, but there's one where the idea is you play the game as it's being developed, while the "developers" show up as giant eyes floating around. You can connect to creatures and mess around with their code to do stuff like turn them into companions.

>>13978354

is that really you? you have improved a lot since your nigger drawings

>>13979555 (checked)

Why the hell are they giving you an offer in NYC when they have an office in Toronto? https://www.amazon.jobs/en/locations/toronto-canada

If they've asked for an interview multiple times, that's generally a good sign. Perhaps the team they want you to work with is based in NYC? I wonder.

>>13980259

(0,2), (0,3), (2,2), (2,5), (4,0), and (5,1) are the only problem intersections I see are (assuming bottom left is (0,0)).

>>13980283

Every time I think the rock-pushing 2D puzzle genre is dead I always end up surprised.

>>13980556

>>churches

I don't mind the rest of your post, but man, did you need to tip your fedora at the end?

The headlines that really caught my eye in that collage was "Are Millennials Killing Their Bosses?" because it actually outright accuses them of murdering people.

>>13979796

>>13979811

Part of what turns me off about C++ is that I feel like I'm in a tug of war between "traditional" C++ and "modern" C++11/14. If I can't trust the new recommended way of doing things from the people that make the language, it doesn't inspire a whole lot of confidence. I guess it's part of learning something that's been actively worked on for so long.

I've been making a roguelike for the past few days. Pretty fun stuff but man is it easy to get sidetracked. I can see why people spend years working on their shit.

>>13981740

Do you have much to show or is it in the "not even a prototype yet" stage. If there's anything to see I want to see it.

>>13982073

It is physics for now, just so I can see how it will look when moving, when I get more into it, I will remove it and replace it with something that works.

>>13981508

>Windows 10 shit popping up

>>13982073

Why would someone shoot something so fucking cute?

>>13982607

>normies

>need variety

you should re-think that

>>13982756

Because we have the urge to hurt cute (i.e., neotenous, defenseless) things

>>13982607

So, InstaUnlagged?

>>13982977

I meant the useless quantity type of thing, you know having several weapons that are basically the same with slightly different reskin and damage, which normies gobble up like hell. Look at counter strike.

>>13983338

Fuck me, there goes my unique idea. Actually i am kind of surprised that i did not know about this considering how much i've played Quake.

>>13984331

The anon developing it stopped by recently to inform us that he's not dead and it's still going.

>>13981804

i just spent 2 days reworking my inventory system even though the changes haven't really improved anything other than making it less spaghetti code. in the long rung it's still a good idea though, otherwise if i touch it at a later time without the changes it will feel like i'm trying to learn moonrunes

>>13982725

Implement this guy's vision algorithm. He covers a few common RL vision algorithms, their pros and cons and his is generally very good

http://www.adammil.net/blog/v125_roguelike_vision_algorithms.html

Basically it works by using octants arcs for line of sight. At 45 degrees, the arc of a circle changes from favoring X, instead of Y. So by using octants you basically have 8 mirrored operations.

As for how it works, it draws a line from (0,0) to 45 degrees and from (0,0) to straight right. It iterates the columns and flags tiles appropriately. When it files a light-blocking tile, it then iterates or breaks depending, and it also shifts the line angles

Whats the best way for an artfag who has zero autism for coding to put together a game?

Whats the best engine to work with if you just can't grind through coding shit as your mind doesn't work that way?

>>13984802

Most engines can hold your hand, because they already have systems in place to make it easy. Unity, Unreal, Game Maker might not be a bad place to start out, but I know some anons have strong feelings against certain engines for business reasons.

That said, you need a good sense of logic for any kind of programming. What do you trouble with in particular?

>>13984817

No, I'm fine with logic. I just hate writing code or kitbashing code. As an art fag I take things and I refine them down. Like carving things until I get them how I want. Coding doesn't work that way so I struggle with it.

>>13984846

>Coding doesn't work that way so I struggle with it.

Hello future engine dev

>>13982607

mele fps with 1-3 hits with ranged items dealing less damage. something with ninjas

>>13982607

Take a look at how Divekick essentially did the same kind of idea for fighting games. See what you can gleam from the gameplay.

>>13984846

Actually, coding is a lot like that, you just have to git gud enough at it first. When you get good enough at programming, you can start looking at the code and seeing the abstract structure of the code in your head. You can then get a working product up very quickly, and refine it into what you need. This is usually referred to as "iteration", but it's the same basic idea as constructional art (that is, building art iteratively, starting out with basic forms and iteratively adding detail), in that you want a working program at all points and you build more features and detail into it without breaking it. It's tedius and awful because you aren't used to it. I'm a professional programmer trying to learn drawing and I'm going through the same thing (it feels slow, tedius, and unnatural, and any amount of improvement involves mountains of practice and study). Most people don't notice when they spend a lot of time on something they really love, because they do it from usually a young age and it doesn't feel very long because it's fun, yet you still can get hours of practice a day for years without even noticing that it was actually study and practice going into it. When something doesn't immediately click for you, it feels like work, and it feels unnatural. It's possibly to learn to love it, and (despite what some people say), you can get very good even if you don't start at a young age, as long as you're willing to work at it.

So your options are

* use a braindead-simple engine that holds your hand the whole way, like GameMaker (and this is not a bad option at all, if it does what you need it to do)

* pay somebody else or find somebody who will program your game for free

* practice until you "get" programming (this can take a very long time to really get good, but you can be reasonably good enough to produce good stuff in as little as a month or two, if you're fine with your code being shit and are willing to learn and refactor it as you learn)

If you're doing 2D, Game Maker is the absolute best place to start. It's far from the best engine, but it does make getting started easier than any other engine (other than very specialized ones like RPG Maker that restrict you into a specific game style). Unity is probably your best bet for starting in 3D, but note that it is a much harder plunge than 2D, and if you haven't made any 2D games, you probably want to do that first to get the basic concepts solidified without having to worry about an extra dimension of collision, design, and all the vast amount of work that comes with modeling and texturing everything.

>>13984846

I'm a programmer, and the way you describe art is how I view programming, and the way you describe programming is how I view art.

>>13985138

How strange. I think it's just the way some people's brains are wired. What we see as building you see as destroying and vice versa

>>13984846

Same, i hate coding, but if i gotta do i will do it.

In the end what matters is creating my dream game.

>>13985138

I can enjoy both the programming and art.

I just wish I could enjoy making the music.

How I am supposed to "view" it is beyond me.

There has got to be some fundamental bit of logic I am missing.

Anyone have any good resources on RGSS2 (RPG Maker XP scripts)? I want to see if I can do a full on overhaul of the engine for a game I want to make.

>>13985637

Here's how I view everything.

>Coding

<A list of problems that have clear solutions, but implementing those solutions is tricky and often creates more problems that you didn't think of prior.

>Art

<A metric fuckton of simple work, followed by hours of individual shifting pixels around until it's just right

>Music

<A simple start, followed by tons of faffing around until you get the melody right, followed by a fairly simple and rewarding cleanup process

>Writing

<A neverending stream of work that gets invalidated a week down the line because you realize that your ideas were dumb

>>13946206

>>13986093

fuck

>>/v/13946206

>>13986095

god damn it

>>13986093

>>13986095

What did I miss?

>>13985947

Same, me too.

I did a (then) decent sounding bit of music back in 2011, lost my source files so I don't know how I made half the sounds and melodies, and it devastated me enough that I quit for several years. I haven't even gotten back into composing yet

>>13986188

Basically had the same story here. But I still have some of that music from back when I first stated four or five years ago. It sounds better than what I can do now. I even enjoyed composing it. But today everything just sounds wrong somehow.

I have no idea how you even improve. I listen to musicians and I get this:

>lol use your imagination have fun

Maybe they are right and I have just been over-thinking it.

>>13986330

See if you can find some midis or what have you of melodic metal. It tends to be highly technical in terms of composition and stuff, so you get good melodies, chords, and time signature changes.

For an extreme example, look at Dream Theatre. They're all over the fucking place for scales and timing and it still sounds great

>>13986344

sure thing

I'll try whatever at this point

Don't jump the gun and start new threads too early

>>13984782

Thanks anon that looks pretty good.

>>13986619

>One of these videos got 50 views and 4 reblogs on Twitter overnight

We're gonna make it, boys

>>13986174

>How do I make pressed keys override each other in Godot? Right now my character moves in 4 directions but I want the movement to be less clunky. When the player is going up or down they can go left or right while up/down is still pressed so that the movement is better but the player can't switch to up or down when going left or right.

>I tried changing the code but it always just ends up overriding each other so in the end one of them won't be able to switch directions seamlessly. I think at this point the only way to fix it is to change how the Input itself works, but I don't know how to do this.

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>>13988254

>>13988673

>>One of these videos got 50 views and 4 reblogs on Twitter overnight

yeah bots are pretty useful, although they used to work better before they increased the char limit.