8525a9 No.13966157
http://archive.is/62W0K
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2017/12/key-home-いえのかぎ-removed-steam-valve-thinks-pedophiles-core-audience/46385/
>Unfortunately, unless Valve makes a public press statement we’ll never know exactly what parts of The Key to Home / いえのかぎ was something Valve thought would attract pedophiles. And given that we can no longer see what games are submitted since Steam Greenlight was shutdown in place of Steam Direct, Valve can basically ban or deny games from being released on Steam and we’ll never really know why.
1922bf No.13966193
Reminder to report and filter goons
ad86c3 No.13966199
>>13966157
The only controversy here is that idiots expected something else to happen.
7e16e2 No.13966200
>>13966189
It got locked because of flagrant shitposting like yours.
reported.
fd92cb No.13966210
>>13966189
>posts reaction image from a shotacon manga
>calls other people pedos
spicy
0accf9 No.13966228
>>13965481
the topic of censorship will always be allowed to be discussed and loli will always be allowed. However when someone spams a thread and when no one reports it, it just ruins the board and it just hassles all of us. I wanted someone to remake the thread, but it seems that isn't the answer, so therefore I unlocked the thread and took care of the situation. I'll be in the meta thread shortly.
316526 No.13966286
8c27ba No.13966292
Will you mods make up your mind already over which thread you're locking already, Jesus Christ.
>>13966157
>we’ll never know exactly what parts of The Key to Home / いえのかぎ was something Valve thought would attract pedophiles
Geez could it be the part where the "good" guy in the story is planting cameras in the little girls bathroom?
0accf9 No.13966296
>>13966286
Raid of some sorts. Either way just talk about it in this thread
1922bf No.13966297
>>13966286
We're being raided and Mark isn't doing anything about it
1922bf No.13966301
1922bf No.13966317
>>13966304
Whatever
Its taken care of
7d170a No.13966342
>>13966317
>Heal someone by killing him
54ad74 No.13966345
What the fuck is this mess?
How about you stop responding to bait hu? Is that so hard to do?
Anyone responding to bait without a proper argument must be clearly falseflagging with the intention to further ruin the thread or to drag people into shitposting too. Both should be removed.
0accf9 No.13966358
Please keep all meta here
>>13966116
0accf9 No.13966372
>>13966345
agreed, holy shit.
fd92cb No.13966390
>>13966339
>"MUH ETHICS"
Jesus fucking christ you are a special type of cancer aren't you?
316526 No.13966392
>>13966345
Yeah, its kinda weird. I mean the game is a shit visual novel. A lot of false flagging.
>>13966348
You okay, dude?
7d170a No.13966408
>>13966349
>Stop sperging!
>Vols and the heeb delete over 15 posts from the first 25 posts
I think there's a reason some anons are puzzled
93866a No.13966414
>Valve thinks pedophiles are the core audience
Gaben busted in a CP raid when?
0accf9 No.13966449
>>13966414
The sooner the better at this point, Valve used to be great, but now it lacks both leadership and direction, doesn't exactly help that people in valve are friends with Kotaku and Rocket Paper Shotgun
9b6295 No.13966452
>>13966157
>make vn
>try to release vn on steam
>vn b& from steam
>resulting controversy causes vn to sell like hotcakes
You'd think they'd have learned by now that banning a thing from release gets more attention than just letting yet another vn hit the steam store.
8c27ba No.13966475
>>13966452
>resulting controversy causes vn to sell like hotcakes
Yeah I'm sure everyone is gonna rush out to buy a VN about spying on little girls in the toilet because steam banned it. The only people who are gonna rally behind this title are pedos who were also going to be buying it anyway.
187516 No.13966479
>>13966452
It could have been just another lackluster VN in a flooded market. Steam truly is cancer.
>>13966414
I can only wish.
798539 No.13966493
>>13966414
I totally see that happening.
0accf9 No.13966520
>>13966452
that would be amazing
9b6295 No.13966522
>>13966475
Even assuming that, this debacle is going to get more pedophiles to buy it than a steam release ever could, simply because a vn release is not as much news as a vn being barred from release.
90671c No.13966530
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:wVsvaV-GFswJ:store.steampowered.com/app/710370%3Fl%3Dkoreana+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
The game is about a middle school teacher who is a lolicon that puts cameras in the girls' bathroom to spy on them. The game is rated all ages only in Nippon because it contains no "explicit images". That is, no nipples, no genetalia, and no violence. The game is made to appeal to lolicons. That much is evident from the images in the google webcache above, and the premise of the game. Nobody but lolicons would buy this game seriously considering the material in its descriptions and its promotional images. The intended audience is not in question, and those saying it's not lewd and that it is all ages are arguing in ignorance or bad faith. Whether or not you or anyone else on this board considers attraction to 2D lolis to be pedo is not part of the equation. If Valve believes it's associated with pedophilia, which loli heavily is for obvious reasons, and does not want to host that sort of content, it's their decision. There are two problems here. Firstly, Valve has too much of a monopoly. Secondly, their hypocrisy in continuing to host Monobeno while removing this. The latter should be reported to them, which will most likely result in Monobeno's removal as well.
01c4c7 No.13966532
>>13966522
>Implying the problem is pedophiles and not Valve not wanting to be associated with pedobait on their platform
Steam already has several watchdogs of the law on their ass, distributing pedobait would effectively be suicide.
90671c No.13966534
>>13966532
Then inform them of the fact that they distribute Monobeno.
93866a No.13966536
>>13966534
Please don't. I have been looking forward to a translation of that for a long time now.
187516 No.13966569
>>13966532
>Steam already has several watchdogs of the law on their ass
For what? Gambling? I can only wish Valve fucks up, but there's literally no fucking reason for them to cover their asses so much. They are either paranoid or there's an actual good reason for doing do. But then again, faggots even in this site can't tell the difference from CP and lolicon, so they usually report lolicon as CP, either as a joke or serious.
>>13966530
That's fucking retarded. Are you telling me that cute girls are and will always be intended to fucking pedos? Well, shit, no shit dolls look so fucking horrible, since if you try to make them appealing people will accuse you of making pedobait.
1775af No.13966572
What the fuck do you honestly expect though?
9b6295 No.13966578
>>13966532
And advertising it for free isn't?
Remember that if this vn hadn't been barred from steam, this thread would not exist to be viewed by both the 2770 unique IPs that have posted here in the last 72 hours, but also however many people have just been lurking here for those 72 hours.
How many people would have noticed and cared about this vn if the only sign it existed was a spot in the "upcoming" and "all new releases" sections of the steam store, of which only the former even has a real presence on the front page?
Low-budget games and vns release on steam all the time, a vn release is not news, and as such a quiet release would do far more to keep the game from circulation than banning it ever could, especially if the devs already have a site they can digitally distribute the game through.
a13302 No.13966580
>>13966530
They're also hypocritical for pandering to murderers with all the killing sims on Steam. fuck off goon
2d787b No.13966581
>>13966536
Its in Chinese.
93866a No.13966595
>>13966581
yeah but the people who are behind the chinese translations also do english translations. It's an inevitability if it sells well in chinkland
1775af No.13966596
01c4c7 No.13966619
>>13966578
Openly banning the game is two-fold; you can't really accuse Valve of directly advertising the game if they ban it because giving the game free advertising wasn't their intention, if nothing else they're cleaning their hands of any direct responsibility for the product being sold (as it's not being sold through their own platform). Even more people will probably buy the game now because of this, but that's not what matters to Valve; what matters is the money.
It's absolutely fucking stupid to think this is a matter of moral grandstanding; they're doing this because openly selling pedobait on Steam would look extremely bad for their bottom line (i.e. their money). It's the same reason you can't link to Uncensored patches for VNs anymore - it's not to protect the kids from seeing tits but because they risk a lawsuit for distributing what is ostensibly porn.
2d787b No.13966629
>>13966624
>ACCEPTED IN SOCIETY
Where you do you think you are?
bd5a2a No.13966636
So much for having your cake and eating it too
316526 No.13966643
>>13966619
Has any anons addressed the fact that PubG is a top seller right now on Steam, bigger then dota2/csgo? and this game is made by China? Maybe Valve is butthurt.
ad86c3 No.13966644
>>13966578
It's called the Streisand Effect. It wasn't Valve's intention to promote the game by banning it, but to save themselves the headache of having to deal with people screeching about pedo games. This whole controversy is beyond stupid, especially by the people that are clutching their pearls because muh censorship. How fucking unhinged do you need to be to believe this was going to end any other way?
On the other hand, if this was the plan by the people doing the English release, they had a stroke of genius and I'd reward whoever came up with it.
7a433f No.13966649
It's not censorship if Steam declines to sell a game. Unless you think for some reason that the ability to profit from any and all avenues is integral to the freedom of expression.
a13302 No.13966657
>>13966649
Except they didn't decline to sell it at first.
9b6295 No.13966659
>>13966619
The irony is that people need to know the thing exists before they can raise a stink about it and thus effect the bottom line.
Who would notice if the vn released?
Who would care about yet another vn on steam?
You do not keep this sort of thing from people by banning it's distribution through a particular channel, no matter how large that channel is.
This is the age of the magnet and crowbar, the only place to feasibly hide a needle is in a stack of needles.
675b9d No.13966665
Damn, its like a child throwing a tantrum
7a433f No.13966674
>>13966657
A decision to engage in a business practice does not imply it will continue in perpetuity. Or should Sears still be selling foot-pedalled sewing machines through their mail order catalog, because they did 100 years ago?
90671c No.13966675
>>13966569
>Are you telling me that cute girls are and will always be intended to fucking pedos?
This ain't just cute girls doing cute things mate.
>>13966580
>fuck off goon
>Everyone who disagrees with me hates lolis and anime tits
Wew.
>They're also hypocritical for pandering to murderers with all the killing sims on Steam.
>Murder
Firstly, you're arguing against a point which I did not make, that attraction to lolicon and to 3DPD children are the same thing, you strawmanning faggot. Secondly, you failed to even knock down the strawman you set up, because murder is an action and pedophilia is an attraction.
316526 No.13966679
>>13966650
Steam is going to be bought out by China in 5 years.
2d787b No.13966683
>>13966646
Have you considered the fact this site might not be for you?
ad86c3 No.13966685
>>13966679
How can they be bought out when they're not a publicly traded company?
f1b314 No.13966689
>>13966157
>itt shitter shattered baby rapers
316526 No.13966692
>>13966685
>>13966684
(((Someone))) will find a way.
7a433f No.13966695
>>13966685
Private companies can also be bought and sold, you know.
2d787b No.13966700
ad86c3 No.13966704
>>13966695
Only if Gaben develops a taste for dogs and decides to sell it for a lifetime supply.
d4227b No.13966705
>>13966700
Cuckchanners are never okay.
540b57 No.13966710
>>13966700
>Cuckchanners
>Ok
540b57 No.13966716
>>13966709
Then start reporting as well
316526 No.13966718
>>13966710
>Calling others a cuckchanner
>console war baiting
I mean, its fucking Monday, what the fuck is going on.
187516 No.13966734
>>13966619
>you can't really accuse Valve of directly advertising the game if they ban it because giving the game free advertising wasn't their intention
Their intention is irrelevant, and as so, the fact remains, the product is famous now because of them. 10 years could have gone by and no one could have gave a single shit about a loli game existing on steam, specially one with no fucking lewd content.
> they're doing this because openly selling pedobait on Steam would look extremely bad for their bottom line
You can say the same about shit like gore and killing, in fact, that was a common argument 20 years ago against video games in general. There are no laws against tits that would warrant you a lawsuit, likewise there are no laws against gore or lolicon, specially in this very niche format.
>>13966675
>This ain't just cute girls doing cute things mate.
There's no lewd content and the dialogue is tame at best.
>>13966727
That explains a lot.
540b57 No.13966743
>>13966718
These anti loli shitposts are cuckchan posts.
They've been happening for years there whenever shit like this happens.
VGAs happened and we got a ton of crossposters, now we are here.
>Console wars
Read the filename you idiot
316526 No.13966748
>>13966727
Well I am getting a large pepporni pizza and a shitty sugary drink for this bullshit cause I got two days off after tonight mother fuckers.
9f832c No.13966749
Are you people really surprised? This is a market owned privately by Valve, they are under no legal obligation to host your game of choice regardless of its content. It's the fucking Apple Store for PC games. I don't support censorship, but if you expected to put your game on Valve's market because you are "entitled to an income" or something you are a fucking idiot and should be laughed at. There are many options for distributing games today, especially PC games that have a niche market (which means you can afford to host it on a cheaper server because less people will download it). This is a non-issue, lolicon dude makes lolicon game and giant corporation gets the sweats over their image which nobody would ever give a fuck about anyway unless they made a big deal about it to begin with. Just pretend Valve is Apple and I promise you'll never be surprised again.
316526 No.13966755
>>13966743
Nigga, you expect me to read? pffffffff
7a433f No.13966759
As an aside, this is why rules forcing you to articulate like a human being are worth having. No bias, no implication of sides chosen. Saying something asinine and useless like "lmao pedofags btfo" would get you banned not for the meaning, but for typing like a chimp.
90671c No.13966761
>>13966734
>There's no lewd content and the dialogue is tame at best.
>Hiroshi Kuroyanagi
>An incompetent school teacher who is looked down on by both colleagues and students alike.
>He has a severe case of Lolita complex and has even gone as far as to set up hidden cameras in the school bathrooms.
Nothing lewd going on here.
79fa7c No.13966774
>>13966767
>Shower with your Dad is fine
>Bara garbage is fine
>Loli is bad though!
Gotta protect those virtual girls!
a13302 No.13966775
>>13966743
They always do this to shut down loli threads. Mark's incompetence usually lets it happen too.
90671c No.13966778
>>13966734
>likewise there are no laws against gore or lolicon
That really depends on where you live. Not everyone is lucky enough to be an Americlap.
f54e25 No.13966780
>>13966717
>>13966721
>>13966726
These come off as actual child raping pedos trying to paint any argument for removing the game from steam as irrational.
ad86c3 No.13966782
>>13966763
Wouldn't you want to check out if your students are properly potty trained if you were a teacher?
9b6295 No.13966788
>>13966749
Thing is, valve could have easily accomplished the goals of both profit and censorship by allowing the vn to be released to practically zero fanfare.
This shit isn't moralfaggotry or profiteering, it's moralfaggotry theatre dressed up as profit concerns.
Valve has failed in both censoring the game, making a profit off of it, and not losing credibility among proponents of free expression/speech, and thus I am mad.
187516 No.13966794
>>13966761
>>13966763
Yeah, nothing lewd going on. I don't see a nipple or a pussy, and most of the "action" is in written form. It's like trying to ban a text book.
>>13966778
Nobody should care about you if you're not american in the first place.
ad86c3 No.13966800
>>13966788
It's actually neither. They just wanted to avoid the blatantly obvious shitstorm that would descend upon them if they had allowed the product to be sold.
2d787b No.13966801
>>13966767
>>13966780
The funniest part is that the people who complain the loudest about loli are more than likely pedophiles themselves, with at least 2 individual examples of this happening on twitter, and the constant normalization of actual, real life pedophilia by the leftist media who abhors all things anime, but especially loli.
90671c No.13966807
>>13966794
>Yeah, nothing lewd going on.
Yep, just like my image here. No explicit nudity or text. Not in the slightest bit lewd.
2d787b No.13966814
>>13966807
>Noise
good taste
79fa7c No.13966818
>>13966804
>Loli is pedophilia. Its a desire.
And I guess vidya makes you a murderer as well. Go to bed Thompson, it was bullshit in the 90s and it's bullshit in the 2010s.
676189 No.13966821
>>13966749
I think the only problem here is that valve has too big of an monopoly atm so these other sites wouldn't make these dudes as much money compared to steam. Despite thinking this is "game" sounds kinda retarded I can get why the devs want this on steam in the US, its because almost everyone uses steam and nothing else. Do you expect normalfag pedoph, oh sorry I meant "lolicons", to use these alternate services? Maybe if they are that into VN's that they have to but I really don't think half the people that would buy this "game" would do that unless they have been counting the days till an English translation.
f54e25 No.13966823
>>13966795
Ironically shitposting your argument shows you don't have any faith in it.
And if you don't believe your own words why should anyone else?
90671c No.13966826
>>13966818
>murderer
Murder is an action, not an attraction.
9b6295 No.13966828
>>13966800
Which is why you have the "no fanfare"
Nobody would notice the release of this vn because it would be drowned out in the releases of other vns and games.
A shitstorm over a thing can only happen with widespread awareness of that thing, which tends to happen when a pattern is broken, such as the pattern of vns being released on steam to little fanfare.
Also, look at where all this shitstorm paranoia has landed us: right in the middle of a fucking shitstorm
409dab No.13966829
>>13966820
>implying he is not a goon falseflagging in order to make the other side look retarded
8c27ba No.13966830
>>13966805
>When is the pedo witch hunt going to end?
Better yet when will pedos stop crying about being victimjs all the time. You have a shitty fetish and you'r gonna be mocked about it, just like furfags.
>if little girls can't be attractive, then nobody would be attracted to them
I guess dogs can be attractive since some people wanna fuck dogs
187516 No.13966832
>>13966803
>>13966804
>Muh implications
That's not even the point of the VN, it's the setting.
>>13966805
Shit argument, mate. There's people attracted to literal shit. That being said, the only way to combat pedo witch hunts is with actual facts and moderation. Sadly people can't keep their heads cold and Mark is an incompetent fag.
>>13966807
Pretty much. That pic can mean anything, really.
>>13966809
>Thinking gore and edge is something good
>Implying these are just moralfags
Probably just band-wagoners that don't even give a shit. Also, your dialect is garbage.
79fa7c No.13966836
>>13966826
>not being attracted to murder
Normalfags, go home. You are sucking too much republicuck dick.
bb708f No.13966839
>>13966826
Oh you young, naive child.
ad86c3 No.13966841
>>13966828
>Nobody would notice the release of this vn because it would be drowned out in the releases of other vns and games.
You're an idiot.
>Also, look at where all this shitstorm paranoia has landed us: right in the middle of a fucking shitstorm
Because people like you are too stupid to figure out this was not going to end any other way.
a13302 No.13966853
>>13966833
>not just anons who usually brow who just think loli is shit
Then cuckchan is more your speed. Fuck off.
316526 No.13966857
90671c No.13966859
>>13966828
>Nobody would notice the release of this vn because it would be drowned out in the releases of other vns and games.
Until somebody pointed it out, which they obviously did in order to get it removed in the first place. What do you think would happen if Valve didn't remove it after a concerned consumer goon reported it? The goon would then spread it's existence to his goon buddies and there would be half a dozen shitpieces written about how Steam is selling pedobait. I'm surprised this hasn't happened with Monobeno yet, which I can only attribute to it being in Chinese.
409dab No.13966863
ITT: Goons raiding trying to crack consensus "I think that unrealistic drawings that look nowhere near real people are pedophilia" 2D is not 3D, if you are not from their raid and still want to defend the imaginary rights of darwings you should go back to >>>/cuckchan/
7a433f No.13966870
>>13966863
I don't even think it's that. It's just anons addicted to shitposting, and other anons who can't not take the bait. This is the "culture" of nu-neo-/v/.
0a1b36 No.13966873
Is there any way to still get the game?
7edf9d No.13966875
>>13966859
>I'm surprised this hasn't happened with Monobeno yet, which I can only attribute to it being in Chinese.
Wait I thought that's what they banned.
409dab No.13966879
>>13966870
Yeah nothing to do with the /v/ UID's spiking after the first thread that was deleted was posted, we are still well over 200 UID'S the usual
90671c No.13966881
>>13966863
There are plenty of goons here, but see >>13966530 It doesn't matter what you or I think about the distinction between 2D and 3D concerning attraction. Regadless, this is aimed at lolicons and lolicon is heavily associated with pedophilia. Valve doesn't want something aimed at lolicons and whether they conflate lolicons and pedos is besides the point.
1922bf No.13966882
>>13966875
Not yet read the OP
0accf9 No.13966883
a13302 No.13966895
>>13966883
keep up the good work
187516 No.13966896
>>13966859
>Until somebody pointed it out, which they obviously did in order to get it removed in the first place
By reporting it. The game did not broke any rule, since the game isn't explicit in sexual content. If that's the case, they would start pulling games based on sexual implications, and end up with half their library.
>The goon would then spread it's existence to his goon buddies and there would be half a dozen shitpieces written about how Steam is selling pedobait
And instead you have an angry mob of lolicons. Not like those fucking goon articles are any more influential than your average shitposter.
>>13966881
>this is aimed at lolicons and lolicon is heavily associated with pedophilia
>whether they conflate lolicons and pedos is besides the point
But that's exactly what you're doing, retard.
5fe5a8 No.13966897
>>13966852
WHY HURT DOG
DOG DID NOTHING WRONG
9f832c No.13966902
>>13966788
>>13966800
>>13966828
I agree with you, that's why I said in my first post that it wouldn't really impact their image. However, executives are retarded, although this is exactly the kind of thing that being a private company (as Valve is, unlike Apple) should prevent. Shareholders are even more retarded because executives are at least familiar with market trends in their industry of choice; shareholders are rich assholes who usually know next to nothing about the industry they're investing in, in fact most of the time they're just doing it because yet another asshole they paid told them it was a good idea.
Having said all of this, given Valve's recent track record and extremely convenient "at-will termination" Steam contract that it builds with the devs and publishers, it shouldn't be surprising in the least that this would happen. Specialty stores for ero games and risque and niche VNs exist for this very reason. If anyone, you should be mad at the dev for even trying this; he is probably just attention whoring.
7edf9d No.13966904
>>13966761
>tiny, tiny thumbnails
Why would you do this to us anon?
187516 No.13966905
>>13966897
As always, half-assed job. Some legit posts were deleted along the shitpost.
90671c No.13966912
>>13966896
>And instead you have an angry mob of lolicons
I think lolicons hold much less influence.
>>13966896
>>whether they conflate lolicons and pedos is besides the point
>But that's exactly what you're doing, retard.
Reading comprehension.
>>13966904
I pulled them from the google cache here >>13966530 as thanks to Valve, images from the game are scarce.
1922bf No.13966915
>>13966895
>>13966891
Not cakejew, but be sure to report the human scum
ad86c3 No.13966920
>>13966902
I'm not mad at anyone really, other than leftists for being hypocritical pieces of shit that are fine rubbing their filth in everyone's faces (like that VN about faggot "daddies") but throw a fit when someone else does the same.
>he is probably just attention whoring
I call it extremely effective marketing.
79fa7c No.13966921
>>13966897
Actually, the subhumans killed the dog because it was blind and going crazy because it could no longer see. Since they live in a 3rd world country where vets were replaced with restaurants that was the most humane thing they really could do with it. If you think about it they could have done much more horrible things to the dog to kill it than 3-5 sharp blows to the skull. It's the sad reality, unfortunately.
5fe5a8 No.13966927
>>13966905
I've been using image boards since /l/ was an official board and human gore has never bothered me but I can't fucking deal with dog gore
can't even play video games with dogs that get hurt in them
>>13966921
EVEN LASSIE GOT TO GO OUT FAST WITH A SHOTGUN TO THE HEAD
THERE IS NO REASON TO BEAT A DOG TO DEATH
0a1b36 No.13966928
>>13966873
Bumping my own question.
79fa7c No.13966932
>>13966927
Bullets cost money. The shovel was already there.
5fe5a8 No.13966934
>>13966873
>>13966928
I imagine despite the "controversy" it's actually not nearly as good as other loli VNs. I've never heard of this shit, anyway. Just go replay the Princess Maker games.
1922bf No.13966935
>>13966923
>it's all about adults doing inappropriate things to children
Get the fuck out of my hobby
497aa0 No.13966940
5fe5a8 No.13966941
>>13966932
DOG IS WORTH ITS WEIGHT IN BOOLETS
0a1b36 No.13966950
>>13966934
You're probably right. Thanks for saving my time.
a13302 No.13966952
>>13966934
>Just go replay the Princess Maker games.
9f832c No.13966953
>>13966920
>I call it effective marketing
If he had a real point I might have appreciated it more. But to me he just looks dumb if he's trying to make a statement about something that no sane business owner would back him on (control of his own brand image). I guess there is the slim chance that he is just an extreme autist who thought this might fly on Steam.
79fa7c No.13966954
>>13966941
>putting fee fees above basic logic
I'm not saying it's not sad but it's reality.
90671c No.13966956
>>13966873
>>13966928
>Bumping my own question
Fucking killyourself. piracy
>>13966935
>It's all about adults spying on children so they can see their naughty bits and masturbate to it*
Fixed.
9b6295 No.13966962
>>13966902
It's still retarded, since it accomplishes none of their stated goals.
The alleged pedophiles still get their vn, valve not only loses the potential profit from the game's sales, but will also suffer backlash from anti-censorship parties and a loss of trust from other devs.
At least if they just let it slide they'd have had a chance to not get so thoroughly screwed.
a03f44 No.13966963
Hahaha how are two dimensional drawings actually children they're only lines nigga hahaha just turn away from the screen. Where's Tyler The Creator when you need him to weigh in on internet shit?
a13302 No.13966964
>>13966958
Even though shad's art sucks, at least he fights back against this shit.
497aa0 No.13966965
>>13966956
thanks for correcting my deleted post. eat your cake, kike
79fa7c No.13966966
>>13966958
>two niggers
>female loli Donte
ad86c3 No.13966970
>>13966953
>put game on Steam knowing full well it will be taken down
>have everyone talking about how your game was taken down
>have rags like Polygon and Kotaku praise Valve for stopping imaginary people from getting molested
>rake in the cash brought in from all the free advertising
>>13966958
He could have painted a few more of them human to achieve maximum butthurt.
2d787b No.13966971
>>13966966
This is based on existing characters, who were male.
1922bf No.13966974
>>13966964
Shad is from the old guard before the internet was this fucked along with the Newgrounds guy.
They're all based
Shads art and fetishes are still shit tier though
7edf9d No.13966977
>>13966966
>female loli Donte
Implying that you wouldn't be her prom date you ugly sack of shit.
5fe5a8 No.13966978
We all have our dark fantasies, but if we don't have a healthy outlet for it (video games) it can end up becoming too much of a mental/emotional burden to keep it in
FANTASY IS NOT REALITY
5cf624 No.13966979
>>13966934
>Just go replay the Princess Maker games.
90671c No.13966981
>>13966963
>First image
Yes, people would rather fuck someone who looks like a little girl but isn't mentally, than someone who looks like they're 80. Smooth skin >wrinkly is an objective fact that doesn't make you a pedo.
>Second image
Are those lolis mentally challenged?
9f832c No.13966985
>>13966970
Oh, I'm not disagreeing that it's effective, just saying it's not the type of marketing that I personally, as a shithead who posts unsolicited opinions on video games and Israel on the Internet, would appreciate.
bf24c2 No.13966988
5cf624 No.13966991
>>13966978
> it can end up becoming too much of a mental/emotional burden to keep it in
casual
90671c No.13966992
>>13966974
I enjoy some of Shad's art.
7edf9d No.13966993
>>13966978
>second pic
Why are Australians such terrible people?
ad86c3 No.13966996
>>13966985
I don't really mind it. This is the kind of thing that people are thinking about when they say 'There is no such thing as bad publicity'. It's manipulative, sure, but leftists exist to be brutalized and exploited for everyone's fun and profit.
90671c No.13967002
>>13966997
>Nigspeak filename.
9f832c No.13967011
>>13966978
I really never understood how that Toddlers and Tiaras type shit continues to fly. I sincerely blame the Jews on that one. Not only does it ruin the childrens' childhood by the virtue of constantly caring about these shows, the shows themselves are degenerate as fuck. I get the willies every single time I see a 50 year old plus man or woman judge a 6 year old girl on beauty.
187516 No.13967015
>>13966912
>I think lolicons hold much less influence
Well, you think wrong. Taking seriously "video game journalism" is retarded, not even companies do so. Youtubers are far more influential, even when they come up with unpopular opinions. See: John Tron.
>>13966954
You're not a human anymore, anon.
1922bf No.13967019
>>13966992
so do I but its very rare of him to actually pull off a quality piece
6c4c3f No.13967023
>>13966210
Mild interest in sauce.
90671c No.13967024
>>13967015
>Taking seriously "video game journalism" is retarded
I'm not taking them seriously, but they have way more presence than outspoken lolicons.
a13302 No.13967027
>>13967011
Because moralfags focus their energy on stopping 2D girls being objectified rather than 3D girls.
9b6295 No.13967028
>>13966996
I doubt this is as much a leftist move as a leftist-phobic move.
Why else would valve forgo any amount of profit and what goodwill they have from anti-censorship folks than out of fear of leftist backlash?
Let's not forget that leftists are some of the most dox-happy alleged people on the internet, and their behavior in face-to-face interaction is hardly pleasant.
187516 No.13967032
>>13967024
It's a mob nonetheless. You don't have to be outspoken about something to make a mob effective. It's pretty much like the loli hate band-wagon.
6c4c3f No.13967037
>thread about lolicon game turns into mini-meta
This isn't the end is it?
79fa7c No.13967041
>>13967015
>anon
>being human
ad86c3 No.13967042
>>13967028
It's not even because they fear the left's reaction, but simply because the vast majority of the Western public would not take kindly to this.
>Let's not forget that leftists are some of the most dox-happy alleged people on the internet, and their behavior in face-to-face interaction is hardly pleasant.
I'm well aware they're subhuman scum, but Valve was likely to do this with or without the hysteria. Some things are more trouble than they are worth.
187516 No.13967054
>>13967041
Captcha says I'm not a robot.
90671c No.13967062
>>13967054
>Robots
>The only non-human things
Get this retarded xeno outta here.
187516 No.13967080
>>13967062
>Calls me xeno
>When I claim to be the human
One of us is not the human, anon.
ab5baf No.13967089
This sounds like red flag number 2.
Red flag number 1 was when someone internally wanted to stop massive waves of negative reviews from affecting game scores on Steam, like in protest to banning mods in GTA V, or some game adding loot crates, or having some major update that ruins the game. They ended up implementing the review graph instead so ultimately it turned out fine, but there is something fishy going on behind the scenes for sure.
a13302 No.13967098
>>13967089
>They ended up implementing the review graph instead so ultimately it turned out fine
>he doesn't know
4235f0 No.13967151
>>13966905
its a long shot but link?
93866a No.13967405
>>13966954
This is your brain on utilitarianism.
dc61da No.13967451
>>13967023
I swear to God this better be fucking bait.
a13302 No.13967471
90671c No.13967472
>>13967451
This thread is rife with it. It's hard to tell.
7e721b No.13967482
>>13967023
Boku no Bibletoads: Guts no Qwaiser
0a1b36 No.13967489
676189 No.13967491
>>13967023
>>13967451
Even when I hadn't read Boku no Pico years back, I knew what it was. Fucking newfags, when will they learn?
938102 No.13967537
>>13966157
Do we have an image rip of this?
c47441 No.13967546
>>13966905
I, too, would appreciate sauce
13b0c5 No.13967573
3d3ea0 No.13967582
Pedophilia and rape are quintissential in Japanese culture. That's a pretty racist move from Valve, someone should contact Buzzfeed.
1922bf No.13967598
>>13967582
Japan isn't Hollywood though
03d634 No.13967613
>>13967098
Stop being vauge, faggot, and say what is on your mind. People can still "review bomb" games but now it comes with a warning and a graph.
ad86c3 No.13967618
>>13967598
You mean it's not Israel.
a13302 No.13967624
1502b0 No.13967625
>Put game aimed at lolicons on the digital equivalent of Walmart
>Wonder why it gets taken down
I'm disappointed, but not surprised. There's a long way to go until 2D loli is socially acceptable, until then all we can do is keep fapping in private while trying to convince people.
a13302 No.13967633
>>13967625
>while trying to convince people
Part of that is getting loli games on stores like Steam, moron.
708354 No.13967634
>>13967011
>I really never understood how that Toddlers and Tiaras type shit continues to fly.
I kind of get it - I mean, we have Miss America/Universe pageants. So these little girls beauty contests are like a kid's version of a grown-up competition. Sort of like how grown men compete in stock car racing, with a children's equivalent being a soap-box derby.
Then, somewhere along the line, it stopped becoming just a light-hearted kid's competition and became deadly serious cut-throat mothers stabbing each other in the back and abusing their own children for the sake of pleasing a panel of pedophiles just for the satisfaction of "I'm prettier than all you skanky bitches" by proxy of their daughters.
It's long, long ago abandoned the innocent spirit in which it was conceived and become one of the worlds most socially open and accepted forms in institutionalized child abuse.
ad86c3 No.13967638
>>13967624
Steam is flooded by normalfags. Why would anyone with two brain cells to rub together go there for opinions on games?
a13302 No.13967652
>>13967634
>the innocent spirit in which it was conceived
>implying it was ever innocent
5fe5a8 No.13967653
>>13967625
>trying to convince people
I'm fine with masturbating alone in a dark room over a laptop, I don't need to take my fetishes public. I'm not a fucking furry.
1502b0 No.13967664
>>13967638
>Steam is flooded by normalfags
You just answered your own question.
>>13967633
Well, yeah. I'm just saying we clearly haven't reached that point yet. Valve isn't gonna sell this sort of thing until the profit outweighs the controversy. We have to convince the masses first.
a13302 No.13967672
ad86c3 No.13967676
>>13967634
You didn't answer the question, though. How the fuck didn't someone put two and two together and shut that shit down?
>>13967652
When we are the only fucks that apparently see how wrong this is you know society is fucked. When did we become the arbiters of morality?
a13302 No.13967694
>>13967676
>When did we become the arbiters of morality?
When actual pedos only have to virtue signal about lolis to hide their true nature.
708354 No.13967718
>>13967652
Children's beauty pagents have been a thing since the 20's, and were usually just goofy side shows during parades and fairs. They didn't become a nationally organized thing until the 1960's, and even then, it was more of a goofy children's contest used more for it's commercial potential than taking itself too seriously as a competition in the beginning.
Maybe it was never completely innocent, but it was a FAR cry from what they are now.
>>13967676
>How the fuck didn't someone put two and two together and shut that shit down?
Money
9b6295 No.13967752
>>13967676
> How the fuck didn't someone put two and two together and shut that shit down?
The people involved in running the damn show are so bitchy that nobody wants to deal with their shit.
03d634 No.13967760
>>13967624
Bots are shit though. They ruin everything. Thousands of players giving a negative review when appropriate is great, one kid with mommy's credit card buying bot spam isn't helpful to anyone, his opinion is worthless.
ad86c3 No.13967762
>>13967748
He's got a point though. All the leftists that screech about 2D lolis seem to have no problems with beauty pageants, Paki rape and grooming gangs, child brides from Syria, rampant pedophilia within Hollywood and the establishment or their own parties pushing that kind of shit since at least a 100 years.
aa0719 No.13967769
>loli shitposting
>pedo shitposting
>goon shitposting
>practically nothing mentioned about the actual game itself
Stay classy /v/
a13302 No.13967770
>>13967748
>I completely missed all the news of virtue signalling SJWs turning out to be serial harassers and pedos
bf24c2 No.13967775
>>13967769
the point was not about the game numbnuts
1922bf No.13967779
>>13967762
>>13967770
>Replying to goons
The posting style of these faggots is exactly the same as the faggots who defended Alisson Rape, its incredible really.
1f3249 No.13967783
Communists hate children since they are children, that's why they enjoy hurting and raping them. Better off just hanging them all.
ad86c3 No.13967788
>>13967783
>Better off just hanging them all.
That's what societies used to do back when sanity was still valued.
708354 No.13967790
>12 year old girl
>"Beauty Pageant"
>Make her look like a 40 year old Cougar
>Just like Mommy
>"Beauty"
Jesus fucking Christ. This shit is why I will be perfectly content to die a NEET.
79fa7c No.13967792
>>13967405
>just like, let the animal suffer. :^)
You are the type of retard that ensures retard living assistance will never stop.
aa0719 No.13967796
>>13967775
>video game thread
>on a video game board
Alright, what point did I allegedly miss?
ad86c3 No.13967802
>>13967796
/v/ never talks about videogames.
bf24c2 No.13967804
>>13967796
The point was about steam removing it, not about the game itself.
1922bf No.13967806
>>13967790
2D = 3D you fucking pedo don't you dare pretend thats not the case here, you're all pedophile degenerates even though I masturbate to real porn where real women literally choke on dicks.
4b1f52 No.13967808
886cb6 No.13967814
>The Key to Home / いえのかぎ was something Valve thought would attract pedophiles
Well, the weren't wrong. Good riddance.
aa0719 No.13967816
>>13967804
I skimmed the thread and most of it, is what I originally posted, there hasn't been much direct talk about the game and why it was removed.
54ad74 No.13967822
>>13967808
>some years ago
bf24c2 No.13967824
>>13967816
But that wasn't your original complaint.
aa6839 No.13967843
>game about looking at little girls in the bathroom got taken down
Am I suppose to assume there is something wrong here besides the game itself?
886cb6 No.13967845
>>13967843
You are supposed to be outraged or otherwise y * * ***n obviously, get with the hivemind.
20dc8f No.13967856
>>13967814
DELETE THIS NOW
097cd0 No.13967861
>>13967573
>protag is a deformed weirdo
th-thanks anyway
90671c No.13967883
1502b0 No.13967895
>>13967573
>Cute tsun gyaru nurse
>Cute glasses
>Lots of blushing
<Blackmail
<Rape
Why do they always have to ruin it?
90671c No.13967913
>>13967822
>I am not a lolicon, I am a feminist
Wew
>This was said by a defendant in a court of law on trial for abusing a young girl
WEW
E
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886cb6 No.13967924
>>13967913
Wow haha, so based
90671c No.13967928
>>13967924
I never praised anyone?
886cb6 No.13967936
90671c No.13967941
>>13967936
Are you telling the feminist pedo was based?
886cb6 No.13967948
>>13967941
No, the devs are clearly based for including that in their game :)))))
e5966c No.13967949
>>13966228
>I'll be in the meta thread shortly
no you won't
afc49d No.13967950
>>13967928
>tfw finally have sex after 21 years of being alive
>realize that giant breasts mean nothing during sex and are only good to look at outside of sex and occasionally fondle
At least now I can appreciate woman no matter the bust. Is this what it means to grow up? Tit jobs aren't even that great. It just looks good in porn.
a13302 No.13967955
>>13967950
Should've held on for your magic powers anon.
9f0aa8 No.13967957
>hotpocket deleting any mention of pedophiles
Oy vey
54ad74 No.13967960
>>13967941
>the joke
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886cb6 No.13967969
>>13966228
>loli will always be allowed
No shit, you are a jew. I would have expected shotacon to be more up your alley, y'know with all the foreskin munching and stuff.
afc49d No.13967972
>>13967955
Is that what you did? What's it like to have powers?
004e31 No.13967973
>>13967814
This tbh.
>no no no im not a cuck !
>I jack off to 2d black dick fucking white women its totally different !!!!
Yet these retards will make the same argument without any trace of irony.
Pedofags get the gas.
b2ca71 No.13967976
>>13967845
Looking at the thread the only reason this is relevant and anyone here would care is because it has lolis in it and lolifags are getting triggered over fucking nothing. What a shit topic and what a shit thread.
d2c2b8 No.13967993
>>13967973
A better comparison would be to furries. Some of them are sick fucks that want to dick the real life counterpart, but most of them are content with their drawings.
bf24c2 No.13968004
>>13967993
nigger unless there is some race of cat people the world has been hiding from me, there is no real life counterpart.
a7bdc7 No.13968005
Is there a name for that subtle-yet-obvious false flag type of post where they pretend to agree with you but implies that you're [buzzword insult]? Something like a straw man but not a straw man.
6aced2 No.13968008
What gets me pissed off at this isn't that this got taken down, because honestly I don't give two shits what people fap to as long as real people aren't involved. What actually irks me is that Valve are not applying their standards consistently and are changing their fucking regulations on a goddamn will, and seemingly only to apply their rules when faced with mass flagging/complaint campaigns even though EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GAME ON THE STORE GOES THROUGH VALVE'S APPROVAL. Seriously how the fuck is Monobeno, a lolicon VN that is explicit from day one, still up while The Key to Home which is SFW and always was SFW and technically "All ages" gets removed?
Also holy fucking shit the goons are in full fucking force in this thread. For the record I don't think either ought to be taken down, cause free market and that jazz, but if Valve is gonna be doing crap like this they might as well be consistent.
004e31 No.13968011
>>13967993
Only because they know their actions are socially unaccepted/outlawed.
If furries could, they would be marrying their dogs, cats and whatever other animal they could fuck.
Same goes for pedofags.
b2ca71 No.13968012
>>13967950
This is a fucking meme. I've never met a person who wouldn't prefer larger breasts. At most I get is that its not a defining factor but they would still like them larger.
90671c No.13968014
>>13968005
I want to part her hair and cum on her giant forehead.
097cd0 No.13968015
>>13967941
>that grill
Got a source?
90671c No.13968024
>>13968008
>You have to be a goon to think loli is pedo
>>13968015
Read the fucking filename faggot.
886cb6 No.13968025
>>13968001
The devs made the achievements I assume?
886cb6 No.13968028
>>13968024
>You have to be a goon to think loli is pedo
Yes
f16a5f No.13968030
>>13968004
> there is no real life counterpart.
Thats where you wrong kiddo
a13302 No.13968037
>>13968024
If you act like a goon then you're a goon.
bf24c2 No.13968039
>>13968030
>putting on a gay costume
>real
No. By this logic vampires are real because people dress up as them on halloween.
90671c No.13968047
>>13968028
>>13968037
Loli is pedophilic in nature. Loli is free speech. Mother daughter milf loli yuri is top tier. These are truths.
886cb6 No.13968051
>>13968037
What is acting like a goon? Out of curiosity, totally not a jew.
6aced2 No.13968052
>>13968024
The alternative is you have issues distinguishing fiction from reality, which implies schizophrenia.
d2c2b8 No.13968055
>>13968004
I'm talking about the furries that want to fuck dogs. Don't make me post the webm.
>>13968011
Most of them would quickly realize that animals are nothing like the degenerate animal people they base their lives around. The rest are even more fucked in the head than the others.
097cd0 No.13968056
>>13968024
tells me absolutely fucking nothing my dude
409dab No.13968059
>>13968024
>caring about the imaginary rights of fictional characters
>not a goon
pick one
1cf131 No.13968060
>>13968030
>gays in suits are the same as humanoid animals
a13302 No.13968064
>>13968051
Thinking loli is pedo for one thing, you goon.
b2ca71 No.13968066
>>13968028
Last time I checked you are a goon when you get triggered by anime as a whole and think its all pedoshit even the oppai stuff. Not if you think that loli specifically is pedo.
bf24c2 No.13968067
>>13968055
>I'm talking about the furries that want to fuck dogs
That's zoophilia. It's a different fetish.
886cb6 No.13968068
>>13968059
Lolicon is a slippery slope
886cb6 No.13968073
>>13968066
Then almost everyone on this thread is using the term wrongfully.
90671c No.13968074
>>13968056
Well I'm not spoonfeeding you anymore than I already have you faggot.
>>13968059
Nice strawman.
f16a5f No.13968076
>>13968008
>I don't give two shits what people fap to as long as real people aren't involved
That still doesn't mean peoples that fap to lolis aren't pedo though. Pedophiles are sexual attraction to little children, a drawing of a little girl doesn't make you a pedo but getting a boner from it makes you one.
989629 No.13968080
>hurr durr loli isn't pedo because it's just drawings of little girls in sexual situations!
Here is an image of "2D men", one fucking the other in the ass with his penis and the other masturbating his penis while being assfucked.
Is it gay if you masturbate to this?
If you say yes and you still think loli isn't pedo, you're a fucking hypocrite
886cb6 No.13968081
>>13968067
>what is feral furshit
409dab No.13968084
>>13968068
Nigger if you think unrealistic drawings that look nowhere near real people are pedophilia you deserve the bullet
886cb6 No.13968085
90671c No.13968088
>>13968052
Liking loli is pedo just like liking bara makes you a fucking faggot. I don't understand what's complicated about this. Whether or not it's real doesn't matter. It's a sexual attraction to the subject matter.
b2ca71 No.13968089
>>13968067
Then why do so many curries tend to fuck animal. Also underage as well but that has to with the gay.
a7bdc7 No.13968092
>>13968080
>implying I don't jerk off to 2D gay shit while being completely repulsed by 3D men
6aced2 No.13968094
>>13968080
What if you're a woman that faps to this?
Does that make the woman gay?
0fa0bc No.13968095
Remember Yohjo simulator? The game that was approved and released and then removed by Valve because of bad media PR? It's like that.
f16a5f No.13968096
>>13968039
>>13968060
If thats what turn them on then thats what turn them on.
90671c No.13968097
bf24c2 No.13968100
>>13968081
A blurry line.
>>13968089
Cause it can be a slippery slope. And why are so many fags as well? No one knows.
004e31 No.13968102
>>13968080
ITS DRAWN AHAHAHA IM NOT GAY HAHAHA NOPE
t. closeted pedofag
"goon" lmao, its literally are paranoid as /pol/ shouting "JIDF, /int/, /leftypol/, X boogeyman of the week"
also if you jack off to that image your a faggot who likes dick just as if you jack off to loli your a pedo who wants to fuck kids, tell yourself whatever you need to sleep at night but stay the fuck away from schools freak
886cb6 No.13968104
>>13968084
Exactly, this isn't pedophilic in nature at all
90671c No.13968108
>>13968084
And words on a page are not the same thing as a real child either, but erotic fiction with prebuscent children as the subject matter is pedophilia.
54ad74 No.13968109
>>13968097
look at his post history, hes false flagging
90671c No.13968113
>>13968104
I see titties and that's a weird angle. I'm betting on shortstack here.
004e31 No.13968114
>>13968094
I suppose if would be depending on who she identifies as.
If she identifies with the top, she is most liking a penis envy turbo dike.
IF she identifies with the bottom, she is just hunger for some dick.
b2ca71 No.13968116
>>13968092
>implying you aren't still a faggot but just with literally unrealistic standards
90671c No.13968120
>>13968114
One can also identify as a voyeur.
1cf131 No.13968121
>>13968081
From my arguments with furfags, they usually say that they think of whatever they're jerking off to as being sapient so it's totally OK. Also, IDs.
886cb6 No.13968123
>>13968109
I'm just having a giggle, mate.
90671c No.13968124
38e450 No.13968129
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>Caring about drawings.
>Caring about what other people masterbate to.
I'm going to go jerk off to lolis and there's nothing you Goons can do about it.
bf24c2 No.13968131
>>13968129
that's cool, just accept you're a pedo.
90671c No.13968134
>>13968129
Jerk it to whatever you want. You're still a pedo.
38e450 No.13968135
File: 508f4eb04b68a66⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 87.38 KB, 800x664, 100:83, 329a353ae8d48e6c28828358d4….jpg)
>>13968131
What are you gonna do, gas me?
886cb6 No.13968139
File: 50f4b5963114aee⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 224.91 KB, 695x1000, 139:200, ca7905cd8fef5365edc101548d….jpg)
>>13968129
Where is the loli? All I see is pettanko.
d2c2b8 No.13968140
>>13968067
It's the same as comparing loli to pedophilia. They're both similar to the thing in real life, but have differences to make them more bearable. Children are loud, obnoxious and shit themselves, whereas lolis are cute midgets that some people want to bury their dick in. I'm not saying it isn't degenerate, but most people aren't going to start fucking kids because of it.
1502b0 No.13968142
>>13968084
Stop using that argument, it's dumb. The only relevant point is that it's not real. It's just a drawing. Even if it is pedophilic to like it, it doesn't fucking matter because it's all in your head.
There is no other argument for or against 2D loli worth considering.
b2ca71 No.13968144
>>13968131
This. Also stop acting like triggered furfags when people tell you that.
004e31 No.13968145
>>13968129
IM HEALTHY AT ANY SIZE AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CIS WHITE MALES CAN DO ABOUT IT
K, tumblr.
2f5d39 No.13968148
>>13968129
dude, goons want you to jerk it to that impotent shit.
a7bdc7 No.13968149
>>13968116
>implying some whiny internet tosspots opinion means anything to me
Read about that thing called gray, it's between black and white.
2f5d39 No.13968151
>>13968149
>colors are the same thing as arguments and sentiments
886cb6 No.13968156
>>13968139
Oops, maybe I should have spoilered that. Are nipples too much for Mark?
38e450 No.13968157
>>13968145
Alright, I'll follow the opinion of some random goon on an ancap post-modernist esoteric kekic hitlerist pinochet-esque pre-Chilean paleolibertarian knitting form.
bf24c2 No.13968158
>>13968135
faggot I like loli.
>>13968140
An anthropomorphic creature is a wholly different object than an animal. A loli is an idealized child.
54ad74 No.13968165
The slippery slope is in acting as thought crime agents and being an enabler of the fiction police.
90671c No.13968166
>>13968139
You're right. Those animu grills are totally pubescent, they just aren't well endowed.
>>13968140
Completely true. An attraction to the idealized concept of fucking prebuscent children is still an attraction to fucking prebuscent children though. It's still pedo, but the distinction must be made that these perverts are generally not a danger to society.
b2ca71 No.13968168
>>13968149
If it doesn't matter why do you always cry all the way to cake kike every time?
886cb6 No.13968171
>>13968166
>You're right. Those animu grills are totally pubescent, they just aren't well endowed.
Yes I am, you are retarded.
38e450 No.13968180
>>13968166
>Liking this
>Is the same as liking this
You are one dumb cunt m8
6aced2 No.13968183
>>13968114
>>13968120
Or one might not identify at all and just find the concept arousing. My point is it quite frankly doesn't matter because it isn't fucking real. Hell, I'm into tentacles and monster girls, but I'd probably shit myself if I ever encounter either in reality.
38e450 No.13968186
>>13968183
>Shitting yourself at the sight of a monster girl.
Nah, you're just a beta male.
b2ca71 No.13968188
>>13968180
>implying that can even qualify as loli with that body
7945d3 No.13968195
>>13968186
Exactly, us alphas at /v/ would fuck the shit out of a monstergirl
ce2ab1 No.13968199
>Monobeno is fine
>Shower with your dad is fine
>this isn't
Did Valve forget about Hatred and the slander it got because you were playing as an edgy faggot who wanted to take his vengeance by killing innocent people and people defended it because "Killing is not optional like GTA, it's mandatory."
38e450 No.13968200
>>13968195
Damn straight we would.
90671c No.13968202
>>13968156
Thanks for the promotion anon. It's the second time this thread I've gotten one.
>>13968186
Got a giggle outta me.
>>13968188 (heiled)
>What is leggy loli
>>13968180
They're similar. One is a child, and the other is a idealized concept of child with deformed body structure for masturbatory purposes.
7945d3 No.13968203
>>13968188
I love how faggots are posting larger flat girls instead of some of the smallest loli stuff with actual small proportionate bodies.
6aced2 No.13968207
>>13968186
Dunno, but this would be pretty freaky to see in real life.
b2ca71 No.13968215
>>13968202
You faggots are blurring the line for the loli bodytype just for the sake of srawmen at this point. There is almost no arguing with you retards.
7945d3 No.13968216
>>13968209
Now this is more up my alley, I prefer the sweet line between loli and toddlercon though.
d2c2b8 No.13968221
>>13968158
A furry is an idealized animal. It has human anatomy and mental capacity, panders to whatever fetish you want and comes in any color your mind can comprehend. A grizzly bear is almost always shit brown, has incompatible sexual organs, will never understand what you're saying and will most likely kill you.
708354 No.13968225
>>13968134
>Jerk it to whatever you want. You're still a pedo.
What if you don't want to have sex with a loli but want to be crammed up insider her uterus?
90671c No.13968226
>>13968207
I'd fuck it. She's just a quiet shy girl that wants to have cuddle sex.
>>13968215
>Just for the sake of strawman
? The upper body is loli, the lower is not. It's leggy loli. What complicated about that, and what strawmen am I trying to support with it?
>>13968216
A man of taste.
10add7 No.13968232
>>13968080
It honestly depends on if the drawing is realistic enough. If you fap to realistic depictions of children and the idea of children, then you are really just a pedo. If you are fapping to an anime girl that looks like a petite teenage girl with small breasts and the only thing indicating her "youth" is the shape of her head and eyes (which is often made to look "younger" even on "of age" anime girls just by the moe style alone), then you probably just like short moe girls, unless you also fap to the realistic 3dpd depictions of children.
Take this example: If you fap to a drawing of a girl, then somebody informs you "in chapter 28 of the manga it's revealed she has a penis :^)", then are you now retroactively gay? No, because it's a drawing of a girl. If you knew 'she' had a penis, or if the drawing showed male bone structure or a bulge that implied a dick, would you still have fapped to it? If so, you might be gay, or you might just watch too much fucking jewish porn.
If you fap to "girls" that are just drawings of men with a vagina, be it cuntboys or some other degenerate shit, you are still probably fucking gay. Because you are fapping to a man with the possibility of avoiding poopdick. Once again, gas yourself or cut out the porn. If you are into "toddlercon," then you are almost certainly a pedophile.
But this really has nothing to do with fucking video games.
7945d3 No.13968242
>>13968232
I am into toddlercon and I find real children disgusting.
b2ca71 No.13968246
>>13968226
So basically you want to ignore that loli is a body type and claim anything without tits is a loli. I bet you think tatsumaki from opm is a loli despite just as curvy or even more so than some adult women when she is just a short adult.
90671c No.13968256
>>13968225
Your dick is going in the bagina. Pretty sure that's sexu.
>>13968246
It's not just her lack of tits though. Look at the proportions of the upper body.
b2ca71 No.13968269
>>13968256
Her upper body is like a normal adult woman minus the tits. Even her muscle structure is well formed if you look at her amazing drawings in the manga indicating an adult.
90671c No.13968282
>>13968232
>If you are fapping to an anime girl that looks like a petite teenage girl with small breasts
That's pettanko, not loli.
>then are you now retroactively gay? No, because it's a drawing of a girl
Only if you still get off to it. This has nothing to do with it being a drawing or not. You could use the exact same argument for not knowing a tranny that is biologically female had a dick.
>>13968269
>Pic 1
>Normal adult woman minus the tits
Are you shitposting m8?
708354 No.13968293
>>13968256
>Your dick is going in the bagina. Pretty sure that's sexu.
So, then, if a loli eats me - then technically that's still a blowjob because my dick is still going in her mouth and I'll be depositing a load of cum in her stomach.
Glad we got that cleared up. I was confused there for a moment.
10add7 No.13968305
>>13968242
Well, I did say almost. But all the toddlercon shit I've seen was shit posted on various boards that was specifically fetishizing the fact that the girl is way too young. I assume the majority is like that, but that's just a guess considering the name and what I've already seen. I don't know you obviously, but I also can't just believe someone right away when they say "I enjoy toddlercon but it's not because they're toddlers."
There's also the fact that 2d girls/women are better than the average 3d counterpart personality and behavior wise because they're generally written by men, which means they are usually feminine without acting irrationally, retarded, bitchy, etc. In the case of loli, they are bound to be more pure, more intelligent or curious or understanding, that sort of thing, instead of a gross whiny little shit. It's not like nobody has noticed that, what with the 3d pig disgusting meme.
90671c No.13968306
>>13968293
Exactly. Now you're getting it.
1502b0 No.13968308
Was there ever any chance of this thread being not shit?
b2ca71 No.13968310
>>13968282
>ignoring the other anon's argument about moe stylisation
If I saw that without context I would think that the artist is shit at proportions not that's a loli.
7945d3 No.13968321
>>13968305
>Well, I did say almost. But all the toddlercon shit I've seen was shit posted on various boards that was specifically fetishizing the fact that the girl is way too young
Well NO SHIT, why would you see it on a car enthusiasts board?
90671c No.13968334
>>13968308
Yes.
>>13968310
Then you have a weird definition of loli if that doesn't look like a loli to you.
>ignoring the other anon's argument about moe stylisation
>(which is often made to look "younger" even on "of age" anime girls just by the moe style alone)
Doesn't matter whether it's stylized. It's an idealization of the concept of fucking children. The concept of fucking children is important to the fetish, whether it's about the body type, or the state of mind of the animu grill that has it. Both are fetishized in lolicon hentai because that's the idealized concept people are getting off to in hentai. An attraction to prebuscence in girls.
>>13968321
>Well NO SHIT, why would you see it on a car enthusiasts board?
The same reason furshit is posted here.
097cd0 No.13968335
File: 7e75002e68dc36d⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 1.34 MB, 1414x2000, 707:1000, yande.re 368747 akizora_mo….jpg)
This thread is complete chaos, it's time to get scientific in this bitch.
In order to have this conversation we need to first establish some kind of axiom for what constitutes a "loli". there are many different flavors of 'small' body type - while all children are small, not all small figures are children. This may come off as splitting hairs but hear me out on this.
>Figure 1, not very well-endowed but quite obviously mature. Could be any height as long as there is small tiddy.
>Figure 2, small, short, skinny grill with flat chest. May also contain a few juvenile features but certainly not "childlike".
>Figure 3, >>13968139, basically just a kid. Obviously neotenous features like thin build, proportionally large head and eyes, and also much smaller than everyone else.
Which of these is a "loli"? Where do you draw the line?
The other important distinctions are realism and ideation. >>13968232 explains this pretty well.
If it's an incredibly realistic depiction of a human being, then yeah, that's weird. But cartoons are stylized by nature and do not necessarily reflect reality in any way. Look at my third image - is it an old man or a little girl? Or could it possibly depict an alien?
The point is that none of those are true because cartoons communicate ideas. The idea is what you're fapping to, and if the idea is kids, then you're a pedo.
1502b0 No.13968342
>>13968335
>we need to first establish some kind of axiom for what constitutes a "loli"
Why? The only reason to do that is if you're going to treat that category differently from any other 2D stuff. Is there a reason to?
90671c No.13968345
>>13968335
Did you ever figure out the source :^).
b2ca71 No.13968367
>>13968334
I'm saying that at this point you are going
>draw a girl call it a boy
but with lolis and adult bodies
7945d3 No.13968374
>>13968335
That's clearly a smiley face, dum dum.
708354 No.13968376
>>13968321
>Well NO SHIT, why would you see it on a car enthusiasts board?
I dunno… there seems to be some crossover potential there.
7879ad No.13968391
Forget all of this loli shit. We all know what we really want.
7945d3 No.13968396
>>13968376
>you will never have a cute 2D daughteru to tease you with her cunny while on the road
0fa0bc No.13968406
>>13968335
Isn't the real topic "Does fiction affect peoples personalities and actions?" Almost all school shooters loved to play games where you shot people with guns, does that mean that the games made them do it? If someone plays GTA, does that mean that if they play it long enough it will make them steal cars in broad daylight? If someone plays rape games, does that mean that will make them rape people?
No. Not really.
10add7 No.13968450
>>13968282
>You could use the exact same argument for not knowing a tranny that is biologically female had a dick.
Not really, I've rarely been tricked when looking at for instance cosplay dumps, and the ones that passed were Asian (different race + soy + makeup). You can almost always tell.
>That's pettanko, not loli.
Fair enough, but I've seen some shit labeled loli that's still not "too far gone" or anything.
>>13968321
>car enthusiasts board
Topkek. I'm not normalfag enough for that, sadly. I meant on /a/, /jp/, and even /loli/ itself. Two normal weeb boards and then /loli/ - which I realize probably attracts plenty of pedos and can't really help that.
>>13968335
>not adding a nose to the third picture or changing the file name
Wasted opportunity.
>The point is that none of those are true because cartoons communicate ideas. The idea is what you're fapping to, and if the idea is kids, then you're a pedo.
This, really. It's about if you're seeking out specifically children (not just "loli") and get off to the idea of sex with children. Fapping to Rin from Kodomo no Jikan doesn't make you a pedo necessarily, judging by the way she's drawn, but if you fap to the idea of fucking a 9 year old student, you are fucking pedo scum.
4bccb7 No.13968457
>>13966414
is mildly probable
7945d3 No.13968464
>>13968450
Guess I am scum :^)
b2ca71 No.13968471
>>13968457
>the_power_of_shekels.src
10add7 No.13968492
>>13968406
This is true, and I agree. It doesn't hurt anybody and shouldn't be banned the way CP is, but what someone faps to does indicate what they're attracted to. I'm simply arguing that people can and do like loli without being pedophiles, even though pedophiles also can like loli (if they aren't full anti-anime like goons). CP should stay illegal for the purpose of preventing a market for hardcore abusive videos, regardless of whether that shit is common or not. If some kike sees that a bunch of sick fucks online are watching young camgirls, then he's bound to have Tyrone rape a poor little girl for the money. Considering they probably already abuse girls themselves
7a7caf No.13968500
>>13966475
This game is anti-pedo
7945d3 No.13968511
>>13968500
Which one? The one by the artist who has traced ## in the past?
9b6295 No.13968516
>>13968492
There's also the fact that child sexual abuse/exploitation is a prerequisite for actual CP, while all it takes to produce loli is sufficient imagination.
90671c No.13968522
lolicons are a form pedo much how fursuit shit, liking drawings of anthropormphic animals, and liking "feral" drawings are all forms of furfaggotry. The first is most cancerous and most likely to lead to irl cringe, but the others while still cringe furshit, are kept in the closet by most.
>>13968450
>Not really, I've rarely been tricked when looking at for instance cosplay dumps, and the ones that passed were Asian (different race + soy + makeup).
Did you miss the part where I said biologically female. Literally thing only physical characteristic that tell you they're a tranny is th fact that they had a doctor turn their ass fat into a dick.
>Fair enough, but I've seen some shit labeled loli that's still not "too far gone" or anything.
There's definitely grey zones.
>>13968500
And so is Unteralterbach. Your point?
7945d3 No.13968527
>>13968522
>The first is most cancerous and most likely to lead to irl cringe
Citation needed
0fa0bc No.13968535
>>13968511
Who is the artist for the game?
90671c No.13968536
>>13968527
You see way more fursuit cringe irl than you see people showing off their drawn furry porn.
7945d3 No.13968545
>>13968535
Rustle, some gook who is going blind, I remember reading somewhere else from people who uh happen to have that knowledge about the tracing. It's more common among lolicon artists than you would think.
0fa0bc No.13968568
>>13968545
>Rustle, some gook who is going blind
Thanks for revealing yourself as a memespouting moron who does not know a single thing about what you are talking about and only jumps into threads to spout bullshit. The artist is Muk.
90671c No.13968580
>>13968545
>>13968568
In addition, Rustle going blind was bullshit too.
d839dc No.13968584
>>13968545
I remember seeing an archive of a halfchan /h/ thread that claimed certain artists were involved with prostitution, or had actually molested children themselves. Could probably find it if I bothered to look. Was interesting to read.
13b0c5 No.13968593
>>13968580
That's good news. If he went blind I don't know where the fuck I'd turn if I needed good flooring advice.
d839dc No.13968614
>>13968584
I probably remembered the claims wrong but this is definitely the thread. A few are named who allegedly trace their stuff and things like that. My main takeaway from it was that the artist who did one of my favourite h-manga is apparently a middle-aged woman.
Other claims:
>Quzilax was visited by police and told to start putting disclaimers in his h-manga because a lot of his work features violent rape, I guess
>Mizuryu Kei sells AVs and attends what people suspect to be yakuza sex parties with cosplayers
Apparently these threads are a regular thing there. This one was just linked to me a few months back.
https://archived.moe/h/thread/4656696/
729b21 No.13968639
>>13968614
Some guy actually did a copycat crime and claimed that he was inspired by one of Quzilax's doujins. Some little girl's life was ruined because of some sick fuck that couldn't tell reality and fiction apart.
0fa0bc No.13968677
>>13968639
Did he also gas himself?
729b21 No.13968680
48e16a No.13970399
This いえのかぎ? I got a strong impression that it was very anti-lolicon. That combined with a brief look through the writer's Twitter made me lose all interest in it despite MUK's art.
>whole thread is just arguing about loli
Oh, ok.
590e6d No.13970469
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0fa0bc No.13970496
>>13970399
>That combined with a brief look through the writer's Twitter made me lose all interest in it
What do you mean?
ced8cd No.13970540
>>>/loli/81870
Loli IS pedophilia and lolicon artists are pedos. Take it from lolifags themselves, many faggots from that board seem to be very knowledgeable about that kind of stuff as well. Their own thread on the subject is my smoking gun, just look at all the evidence. This picture for example, the upper drawing is a trace.
187516 No.13970545
>>13967895
>>13967861
To be fair, the girl enjoys it, since she is a masochist. It was pretty heartwarming by the end too.
48e16a No.13970647
>>13970496
At the time his Twitter was a near constant flow of political opinions and I didn't get the impression that he could keep it from bleeding into his work (or just outright using his work as a soapbox). I was already wavering after the double blow of all ages and anti-lolicon, but that just pushed me over the edge.
024ef9 No.13970751
>>13970647
Wait so the guy who drew that is "anti-lolicon"?
90671c No.13970861
>>13970751
He's against molesting real children. Nippon, unlike you filthy western gaijin in denial, use the word lolicon to mean pedophile or content related to pedohpilia because that's its literal meaning.
>>13970469
Image.
48e16a No.13970871
>>13970751
No, the guy who wrote it was.
90671c No.13970889
>>13970540
Looking at this really destroys that whole "It's not realistic. It's stylized. Real children don't look like this." argument. Not like it was very strong in the first place.
000000 No.13971015
It's called a free market dumbasses. People have been asking steam for "quality control" since forever.
Get used to it, it's 2017. It's about time Gaben did something positive about his gaming platform.
a4ca22 No.13971030
>>13970540
Y-you are clearly a goon and you just made all that up
00f23f No.13971561
>>13970540
>This picture for example, the upper drawing is a trace.
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
497aa0 No.13972221
>>13968308
no
mods are in on it
13b0c5 No.13974388
>>13970540
The only way to prove that picture is a trace is to post the original. Which you, obviously, should not do. You do realize what the issue with positing a claim that cannot be legally proven is, don't you?
90671c No.13974741
Have we entered the shitposting zone yet?
8ba4e0 No.13975256
>>13966157
>5 images in op and none of them is 'the key to home'
5fe1c1 No.13976456
Don't know why you faggots always harp on about SJWs, jews and tumblr all day, when at the end, you all have the same goal.
03d938 No.13976529
>>13976456
3D is pig disgusting. I just want to be left alone to masturbate to my cartoons.
740a73 No.13980020
>>13967573
>panda meme site