/v/ - Video Games

The other guy's head is huge. Is he a fucking space Ayy?

Posting the article here would be nice.

>>13894617

Why would you want to save the JRPG?

>>13894617

>you will never ever learn moonrunes

Fucking nigger.

This is now a dubs thread.

>how to save the JRPG

It's already safe in that it makes waifus while the western market gives us pozzed Marxist horseshit. That alone is enough to keep solvent. What will save it is getting away from cinematics and putting everything back into gameplay. Don't have a cutscene for what dialogue in battle could do.

>>13894639

I will summarize the article for you.

1) Sell in foreign markets

2) Make digital versions and physical versions

3) Make games good enough for people to want to buy

So, yes. You heard it here on Kotaku first, everyone. How do you save a genre? Apparently you sell more copies of it.

Who. Would. Have. Thought.

>>13894617

>>13894655

FUCKING NO KONDO

Fucking stop this. Don't make me write of Falcom game, don't.

Tbh people who play Falcom games have worst taste on /v/. You guys play the worst mediocre shit from japan.

>>13894646

>the french

mwahaaaa

>>13894646

Do sand niggers buy jrpgs, or is it desperate cheese eaters trying to hide away from reality?

>>13894679

Falcom will most likely give them another chance because muh europe market. Even though I heard the french translation wasn't that good either.

>>13894617

>you will never ever learn moonrunes

Talk for yourself. I can already read some.

>>13894679

>trusting a fuckup

>trusting people who turned a game into a literal console bricking viruse ever

Please dont.

>>13894701

I'm not trusting NISA you shit, I just have a little more hope that Falcom won't go with them again after it all

>>13894646

>french localization

Didn't they end up with a bunch of French nonsense on the back of the box? They couldn't even get that right.

>>13894712

What I am getting is they are trying for strike 2, I pry its not cold steel 3.

>>13894750

What are you even talking about?

>>13894752

The fanbase made their own bed for buying Ys8.

>>13894686

This. I tried Cold Steel 1/2. Mostly generic characters, mediocre gameplay, boring art direction, few good songs, and it's all praised to high heaven because "Muh multigame franchise lore!", average waifus, and a mildly intriguing plot. Still doesn't deserve to be NISAed.

>>13894760

>for

*by

>>13894750

>that picture

Why do I have such a strong urge to punch every single one of them?

>>13894760

Where's the proof they bought it and didn't just /scurv/ it? Their general here has it in the title not to buy NISA games and they were the ones who wrote all the emails to Falcom as well?

Katharine Byrne is NISA defender. This interview was made before the game came out and is only being published now as damage control.

>>13894808

Interesting. A prayer? A hope. I'm almost too jaded to hope anymore

>>13894852

>>13894808

watch out anons, you might trigger a You need a 8chan Platinum Pass to see this content

>>13894880

>a 8chan

>Not an 8chan

Tell scripting simian to fix this.

>>13894892

Ah, fair point.

>>13894646

Hon hon, motherfucker.

Xseed was responsible for rub a dub dub thanks for the grub. NISA is bad, but good translators are a myth.

>>13894892

>From where nigger?

Vita version, anon-kun.

>>13894679

> this interview happened before Falcom btfo NIS

> they only published it today

Good bait, OP.

俺はもう日本語を勉強している。

>>13894911

Read my post again

>>13894892

There were many newfag shills in the threads at the time running defense for NISA.

This is strange considering there was just recently an interview with NISA's Alan Costa saying they have no idea as to why Ys 8 ended up as bad as it did.

>>13894655

Are they retarded? YsVIII was a fucking disastrous localization that NISA had to redo from scratch after release. I'm honestly losing respect for Falcom, this is just blatant disrespect for their audience at this point.

>>13894949

Fuck off. This article was way late to the party. Falcom already expressed their disgust at them after this interview took place. The weird thing is that they are posting it so late. Probably won't ever see another Ys game from NISA.

>>13895085

>Falcom already expressed their disgust at them after this interview took place.

Source?

>>13894679

see

>>13895063

This article was published way after the fact. The actual interview took place before NISA managed to embarass Falcom. I guess someone in the game press wants us to believe that everything is buddy buddy now.

>>13895093

Source is the fucking article. The interview itself took place before NISA was forced by Falcom to apologize for their shit translation of the new Ys.

Again, see >>13894679 .

>>13895109

Nothing there aboyt Falcom being disgusted or NISA being forced by them to apologize.

>>13894655

>NISA blatantly lies about releasing the pc port

>Falcom is somehow ok and bending over

I smell some shady backdeals. No way they would be this accommodating.

>>13894852

The hardware editor of a PC-only site is a Nintendo fanboy. You can't make this shit up. I've not been there in years… But I never thought it could go THAT far downhill in such a spectacular fashion.

>>13894907

>good translators are a myth

Good translators do exist, but they don't waste their time on video games. They translate important things like medical books and business contracts.

>>13895116

Thats because you need to lurk more.Not going to spoonfeed you.

Ys is overrated, fuck off.

>>13895478

Upboated, fellow neogaffer!

How the fuck is Falcom gonna save JRPGs? What a bunch of self important fuckers, they should stick with anything that isn't trails because those games look and play like fucking trash and the only redeeming qualities about them are the music and some of the characters.

>>13895535

That’s your shit taste showing, anon.

>>13894655

LOCALIZED.COM

>>13896509

I don't fucking get this, Falcom isn't infallible and you don't have to like all of their games, hell you don't have to like every single aspect of their games. You can both dislike certain aspects of trails and still like to play series. You can dislike Ys Celceta and still like the rest of the Ys games.

The falcom general is poisoning your minds, it's nothing but a circlejerk where nothing is actually discussed, only jerking off Falcom, XSeed and your own cocks to the Cold Steel waifus while barely anyone actually talks about the actual games or gameplay.

But hey who am I to judge if you really think Trails has good gameplay.

>>13894636

Neoteny.

That, and Human Flatwoods creature hybrid.

>>13896541

This. It scream damage control from NISA, and we all know NISA has it's claws in tons of journos' pockets. But if Falcom gives NISA a second chance it just proves how much of a fucking moron Kondo is.

They should use NISA's absolute blunder as push to convince the hire ups to invest in a Falcom Internationa branchl to handle their own games and others to increase revenue.

>>13894617

Of all the genres of vidya, non have aged worse.

How is "save" defined? Because it will never be anything more than niche now.

This article came a bit late as NISA assraped the pc release so hard it got postponed indefinitely.

>>13896930

You mean Steam.

>>13896971

Danganronpa is probably done anyway, but it's still nice to see NISA lose more licenses.

>>13896988

Spike Chunsoft confirmed they are still wanting to make more DR titles.

>>13896976

Origin is the blandest Ys game to date.

>>13896971

So all of this is NISA trying damage control losing one of their biggest moneymakers.

>>13897005

It's far from it.

>>13896993

>Origin

>Bland

I know you both don’t have good taste, but this is laughable.

>>13897009

Yeah, it's worse than bland. It's laughable even to suggest its as good as "bland.

"

>>13897037

Truth hurts, doesn't it? Origin is barely any better than IV or V. You faggots who came after Naphistim can go fuck yourselves.

>>13897068

According to fans with good taste, of course. You clearly don't belong to that group.

>>13897120

>>still only plays localized version

Read the thread you goon >>13894708

>>13897112

ZE was ruined by Uchikoshi’s horrible writing skills much like DR was ruined by Kodaka’s horrible writing skills.

>>13897377

No, it means everyone should learn how to speak Japanese. Of course there will always be faggots who are too lazy too and are going to let other people localize shit for them.

>>13897017

>there will never be a PMD this good ever again

kIll me

>>13896523

google apology and ys viii you lazy faggot

>>13898978

>you do realize that they censored it so they could release it in certain countries, correct?

>nigger avatar

every time.

>>13908066

That person also has the name "iCarly" which was a Dan "the hymen divider" Schnieder show on Nick. Dude is probably yet another legit pedo that bitches about 2D lolis in games and anime.

>奴らが日本語が分からない

>They will never play raw, virgin and untouched games

>They will suffer while playing a translated mess

>They will encounter memes beyond their imagining

>They will pray day and night for Xseed or whatever fuck to translate the game before playing

>They will never utilize Japanese in their RL career and use it for their hobbies at the same time

Truly, you guys live in hell.

>>13894666

Might as well, Kondo said his willing to do this.

Don't like it? Do something about it.

Or is /v/ all its doing is bark and no bite?

Ditch the weeb fan service shit. Ditch the meme SJW localizations. Bring back ATB combat. Don't go full retard on the plot. This isn't hard.

DJT will be your savior. Come, anons, the light is this way.

>>13910752

From another thread, https://archive.fo/G40kW

Another article trying to false flag with the same past interview, conveniently published after NISA's fuck up. Collusion is going high gear.

>>13894786

NISA is top tier at savings. Just don't hire anyone competent and you don't need to pay a competitive wage.

>>13916610

Just spread their lies wherever you see NISA getting praised.

>>13894617

>how to save the JRPG

-Get rid of waifus

-Hire writers & character designers that aren't addicted to shounen anime. In fact ditch the anime asthetic entirely.

-Lynch any translation team that tries to change content or censore anything.

That'd be a good start but it will never happen.

>>13896971

Good.

>>13917420

>-Get rid of waifus

Kill yourself retard

>>13896999

Maybe if NISA were to just fire the retards and get competant people and good translators on the job, they wouldn't be in this mess. NISA should have been firing these retards already.

>>13920034

Why would they fire the people that do exactly what they want? Everyone at NISA is irredeemable and the whole company deserves to die.

>>13919906

He is spot on, you fucking faggot. We need more games like Xenogears. Shounen shit is so rampant and main characters are treated like secondary shit because designers focus more on vaginas than on well-written characters and plot.

>>13920733

>you’re a faggot for liking girls.

Logic and reasoning 101, really.

>>13920756

He's not wrong. If there's no character behind the breasts then there's no reason to make her my waifu. Hot bodies in fictional worlds are a dime a dozen and it surprises me people don't realize this.

>>13924357

It’s fine to have waifus, just have them be well written waifus.

>>13924357

>Hot bodies in fictional worlds are a dime a dozen and it surprises me people don't realize this.

t. beta cuck soy boy

>>13924758

t. no taste faggot who would fuck a cheap whore

>>13909585

>hahaha you faggots can't into japanese

>types incorrect sentence in japanese

Also there seems to be an asshurt mod who keeps deleting my comments. Must have hired some faggot refugee from NeoGAF to keep this place a fucking safe space.

You can't save the JRPG because the JRPG isn't dead. It's just had it's entire core focus inserted into other games.

Bayonetta now has more time dedicated to story movies than most SNES RPGs did.

Bioshock has more random text pick ups and item hunting than most SNES RPGs did.

BOTW has a larger world map than most SNES RPGS and it's all explorable not just flat plains and dungeons hidden within.

As technology advanced JRPGs strong points got worked into other genres. Now all that's left is lame turn based combat which becomes a chore rather quickly.

The only genre that still works as a JRPG is monster collecting games like Pokemon and Digimon. Due to the sheer number of monsters involved and the focus being on catching/evolving creatures the combat serves a purpose. The type dynamic and move pool system require limited action or you can just brute force your way through everything. In this way the turn based combat works much better.

To save the JRPG you have to just let it go and let Yokai watch, Digimon and Pokemon turn it into a new catch-a-thon genre. Nothing else works.

>>13928565

I'm sure that shit sounded more clever in your head.

>>13927738

You were born after y2k, weren't you?

>>13927738

>t. Polycuck writter triggered by hot women

>All these implications

A garbage character is a garbage character. I prefer boobs but if there's nothing there it's still a garbage character. Go to bed so you can rest up for school tomorrow champ.

>>13929509

So just say "good characters". "No waifus" makes you sound like a goon.

>>13929542

>stop using the word waifu on a japanese originated image board

Are you fags seriously so afraid of SA that you no longer want to use terms we've been using since Azumanga Diaoh?

>>13929509

>A garbage character is a garbage character. I prefer boobs but if there's nothing there it's still a garbage character.

No boobs with zero character is still better than what we get in western games, which is ugly women with zero character.

Besides are shit storytelling medium to begin with, always have been. Complaining about the writing is a futile effort.

>>13929560

>No boobs with zero character is still better than what we get in western games, which is ugly women with zero character.

Well I never went against that point to begin with. Just keep in mind there's nothing special about making a a character with boobs. It's the default. It doesn't need or deserve praise. People seem to forget just how easy it is to implement jiggle physics.

And story in games is always nice as long as it doesn't detract from gameplay. It's better when it's there, but it's not needed.

>>13929571

>>13929572

>false flagging this hard

Sure sounds to me like you guys want to shift blame away from yourselves here. Got something you want to confess? :^)

>>13929577

Nice dubs, reverse sage.

>Just keep in mind there's nothing special about making a a character with boobs.

It sure seemed special to Polycuck. Either way, good looking characters with no story > ugly characters with no story or badly hamfisted ones

>it's not needed.

Thanks for conceding my point.

>Got something you want to confess?

That we like attractive characters in place of ham fisted writing? You bet.

Could you waifu fags both neck yourself?

Waifu faggotry and harems are destroying anime in general. JRPGs aren't going to be improved by your slap fight over AKIRA CHAN and AMI CHAN

>>13929556

>Are you fags seriously so afraid of SA

/v/ hates the goon because it's like looking into a mirror and seeing a corrupted version of itself. He who fights monsters and shit.

>>13929625

Nice projection

>>13929604

>reverse sage

>when the post has nothing to do with the thread and is offtopic

Gee sure showed me.

>It sure seemed special to Polycuck.

>giving cucks attention at all

>Either way, good looking characters with no story > ugly characters with no story or badly hamfisted ones

What if it's a good story with 5/10 characters? I mean there's been some good stories in games where the characters reflect a shitty atmosphere so they look like shit. I know some faggots here like LISA or EYE, and there's nothing resembling sexy in that game but people go batshit over the story.

Seriously who cares other than to annoy them? What does that even have to do with what I brought up?

>Thanks for conceding my point.

It's not conceding if I never went against it.

>That we like attractive characters in place of ham fisted writing? You bet.

Maybe don't jump the gun next time you start namecalling then.

>>13929625

Ok now this is goon speak. $10 have been put into your account.

>>13929634

Just posting an example as to why waifufaggotry has been ingrained into anime since almost the beginning. It's not new, it's not a fad. If you think it is, that's the problem of letting Toonami and western companies shape your idea of what anime is.

>>13929644

>I know some faggots here like LISA

>there's nothing resembling sexy in that game but people go batshit over the story.

Now those are goons. Ignore their shit taste.

>>13929625

Goons and /b/ used to be the same damn userbase. SA went SJW and /b/ went /pol/

That's the difference.

The reason 8/v/ hates goons is because they come here to troll some times or rather, /pol/ anons are so obsessed with shills they try to claim everyone they don't agree with is a shill/goon/whatever to discredit them rather than adjust their opinion or find a way to argue against it.

It's why /pol/ is now stagnant and unusable. There's no longer a desire to know more, just a fortress and everyone inside stagnating.

>>13929658

Well you still got EYE and several other games that don't feature sexy women but are still enjoyed for the story. Point is the game should have characters that reflect the tone. Overall though it just depends on the game you're making.

>>13929659

Everybody knows people who claim to be from /pol/ are from /leftypol/ to try and false flag them being retarded. Lurk more newfag.

>>13929556

>Being afraid of one site that created majority of cancer and everything wrong on entire Internet

>Some people call them jews of Internet to very this day

It just make sense to me.

>>13929681

>>13929673

I rest my case.

They're so paranoid for shills that shills don't have to even do anything. Any one who doesn't agree with 5 different contradictory ideas will be called a shill on sight.

>>13929737

They jewed the fuck out of people in eve

>>13929744

i can't speak for the /pol/ vs /leftypol/ post, but your posting style is the definition of reddit. yes yes muh paragraphs etc

but you don't need to break up a perfectly coherent sentence for

no reason.

>>13929744

I know that.

They finally got fubar in eve and they are done for there.

Are you even aware that socjus cancer was created there?

>>13929744

That's nice >>>/reddit/

The Reddit shill posts above continue to prove the point.

>>13929807

what happened? weren't half the goons company members at that point?

>>13929844

>The Reddit shill posts above continue to prove the point.

Yeah, your posts really give you away >>>/reddit/

>>13929848

>TFW newfags scream Reddit at people who have been posting on Ebaumsworld for 12 years now.

Can you let us discuss the topic at hand and stop wasting posts in the thread please?

>>13929867

>stop wasting posts in the thread please?

Yes, you really should do that. Try posting on >>>/reddit/

>>13929844

Their glorious (((leader))) stole their entire money to pay for their alliance.

>>13929948

How much did he jack?

>>13929659

>Goons and /b/ used to be the same damn userbase

That's exactly what I'm saying. Something happened and you had part of the user base go to a different forum where much of the proclivities stayed the same, but the attitude became about fucking with /v/, /pol/, /b/, /a/, etc. The hatred for smug waifus and virtue signalling for SJWs and other social media campaigns is meant, on a psychological level, to piss on where they came from.

>>13929950

I don't remember exactly, but I am sure it was more than 100.000 $.

>>13930133

Well Moot was from SA originally.

Goons used to fuck with everyone, there's no exceptions. These days I don't know what they do. I doubt they even still use the name.

Falcom is already saving JRPGs: they are keeping Nisa away from their future games, is they should have done sooner.

>>13930187

you

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tbh

>>13930447

>Cold steel 3 might be handles by NISA

nah, Its going to be Cold Steel 4

>>13928486

>Incorrect

>The faggot thinks that double nominative case marking is incorrect

It is ok, anon. I know that you are too retarded and your only source is Tae Kim's guides.