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How does gzdoom manage to be so fucking badly optimized? You know you fucked up when your source port makes vanilla Doom freeze to the point where you have to hard reset your high end PC.

>>13890961

PrBoom+ is my favourite port for this very reason. If only the majority of newly-released mods wouldn't require GZDoom.

As for my opinion on Simon's Destiny. I think it's rubbish if you've ever played a 'vania. Great work from a level designer standpoint but a trash example of attempting to meld the two. It ends up lesser that the sum of its parts. Even just the bloody whip doesn't give you a good impression of where it cracks exactly.

How the fuck am I to whip and tear without proper feedback?

The goddamn whip looked good in the pre-release trailers. It just don't contact properly. Especially for a DOOT weapon. There's no CRACK when it hits or anything. It's obvious the dood just was better at level design than the total conversion thing.

I AM MAD

MAD ABOUT WHIPS

Anyone know a decent Christmas mod for using with multilayer? I was surprised to find there hasn't been a christmas mod since the 90s.

>>13890989

That image is shit though, stop shoving it in every thread.

>>13891262

I'm sorry man but I can't stand your game's style, it's just hideous.

>>13890989

Eh, it lists a lot of garbage and it's way too bloated at this stage. We should try to make our own at some point.

>>13891039

This isn't the NuDoom thread, bucko.

>>13891262

Holy fuck that is ugly.

>>13891279

>>13891289

That is fine and I can understand why it may not be your cup of tea; I must ask however, what is it that is jarring to you?

>>13891289

>it lists a lot of garbage and it's way too bloated at this stage

Yeah, it lists things like the Japanese Community Project despite it being an incredibly average megawad.

It half of the things listed could be removed with little outrage.

>>13891299

There's no real shading, not much detail on anything and the lighting is almost nonexistent.

Just look at that gun, why does it look so shoddily made? Why is 40% of it the exact same shade of light brown?

It's too colourful and lacks any definition.

>>13891314

I feel bad for the Nip players of Doom, the only megawad they ever produced is only noted because it's Japanese.

>>13891338

you are going to have to be specific since you could be referring to 3 different things. When you are talking about detail and lighting, are you talking about the environment, or the sprites?

If its the sprites, that unfortunately in this instance has been the style I have been going for since day one, as my aim was to replicate the early Japanese pre-rendered graphics style of Tomba/Camelot games. If its the environment, where would you expect me to add lighting in the instance of these images shown here? And please don't say go crazy with GZDoom Lights

>>13890916

Simon's Destiny is good as far as gameplay. A little awkward to get a feel of how long your whip range and accuracy is, but everything else is great.

>>13891000

(checked)

If it teaches people how to play something other than Brutal Doom, then it's probably worth doing.

>>13891358

>that unfortunately in this instance has been the style I have been going for since day one

Yes, and the style is horrible. It doesn't matter if it's what you were aiming for.

>>13891369

The kind of people posting here aren't going to be the kind of people playing Brutal Doom.

>>13891358

>are you talking about the environment, or the sprites

All of it, it's all ugly.

> If its the environment, where would you expect me to add lighting in the instance of these images shown here?

I don't mean the lighting in the environments although they do look fullbright now that you've mentioned it, I mean the lighting in the sprites is just banding. That is the laziest fucking way to do it.

If you're going for a retro style you should know that banding is something people tried to avoid, not intentionally do.

>>13891396

Would you please tell me what Banding is, since I am not sure what that exactly is

>>13891404

It's a type of color transitioning, the type your using.

>>13891438

>>13891427

I dunno, I think it looks neat.

>>13890961

What version are you doing? I've never had any issues with it.

>>13890992

>>13891000

>>13891027

>>13891031

>>13891039

Anon, holy fuck. Condense all your thoughts into one post instead of posting five times in a row.

>>13891262

>>13891427

It's been awhile since I saw somebody so technically good at art while being so aesthetically bad at it.

I'm sure you put a lot of effort into this so it hurts all the more.

>>13891447

Are you sure that's a wad? It looks like one of the early Doom 2 levels, I can't remember the name of the level I'm thinking of though.

>>13891427

>intentionally using a graphical defect

>muh style

Okay then.

How difficult is it to start making wads? I've had this idea for a non-shit SCP game but I know next to nothing about programming

Just finished DooD 4. Was good.

>>13891484

>>13891480

>>13891438

I do genuinely appreciate all the feed back you guys gave me. It gives me something to consider in future when working on newer sprites

>>13891262

>outdoors in the night

>inside the cave

>next to no light sources

>bright level 192 everywhere except for even brighter spots with bright level 255

>>13891535

I tend to rely on light colors then actually darkening. Do you think I should add more of a blue hue to the Nightime Desert section?

And by light sources, can you tell me where I could improve?

>>13891480

Yeah it's a really old wad for Doom 1. This is the file on my HD:

GARDEN2.WAD, 195477 bytes, Oct 24 1994

It has E2M1 map for Doom, but I don't remember where I got it from. Anyway it's pretty good for 94. Worth a run through anyway. There's a maze section (not too horrible) and a bunch of ambushes to keep you on your toes. Nothing unfair or too hard though.

>>13891707

Nono, this is helpful, I will take notes of this. Honestly, I don't mind anons ribbing me, it brings attention to things I don't even think about.

>>13891740

The area is actually a place filled with 6 pocket dimensions. Each section of the shop is actually another pocket dimension. those doors you see are actually connected to nothing behind them!

I will definitely consider adding more light sources. I have been using more fog to add more density to the maps too, which you can see in the forest section?

>>13890961

GZDoom isn't just a source port anymore, it is basically its own engine for making games out of and that's how most of the community seems to treat it. Simon's Destiny is a good recent example. To be fair, I have modded for GZDoom before and it is a lot of fun. Very fast turnaround to see shit working in game. For a long time now GZDoom seems to have focused on adding features and pushing the limits so that modders can do more shit.

>>13891884

>For a long time now GZDoom seems to have focused on adding features and pushing the limits so that modders can do more shit.

Which is ironic because the guy behind GZDoom fucking hates gameplay mods and gameplay modders.

>>13891905

I think that got changed some time ago. But it seems like that was the case until then.

>>13891905

I don't think that has been the case for a while, since 3d bridges were added at minimum, which was years ago. I'm not too well informed on all the autistic egos coming and going but if the guy is like anything you've described, then he wouldn't have allowed 3d bridges to be added. I feel like there are more than enough purist source ports anyway, how many do you really need?

>>13891918

No, Graffy boy is just as much of a spiteful fuck as he's always been. You should see the tantrum he threw over Lilith.pk3, and how his latest version of GZDoom causes certain gameplay mods to have their save files explode.

>>13891427

The render certainly looks better. The issue is when it's turned into a low-res sprite here >>13891262. This is one of those projects which would benefit from the use of higher res sprites since they would look like you intented instead of a messy amalgam of plain non-shaded colors.

>>13892196

>It was another shitty meme wad for MUH NOSTALGIA PLZ PLAY MY MOD AVGN

People wouldn't seriously make Doom wads for stream bait would they? I don't even know any besides Mr. Icarus.

>>13892253

>The render certainly looks better.

Not by much, though.

>>13892413

These threads are for the first two games and the various wads.

>>13892435

Well it didn't mention it being a retro Doom thread so I figured it was as good a place as any to post.

>>13892413

You unwashed ass hole, Doom3 is way better even in multiplayer.

>>13892368

>>13892196

I played Simon's Destiny, it was OK. The FPS format is noticeably worse for the gameplay of Castlevania because it's really difficult to tell if enemies are in whip range. The remixes and tributes they used for the soundtrack are meh. As much as I don't want to admit it, I actually laughed at the AVGN joke they put in the second level. There's an altar room with a destructable cross on it, and when you destroy it instead of getting an item you get a middle finger that turns into AVGN's face and he says something to the effect of "Bet you were expecting a turkey, HA HA!" I was indeed expecting a turkey. But it's one of those fan projects that is well dressed yet shallow by its very nature (and the joke added to that feeling), it's that feeling you get when a game was inspired by memes of what other games are like instead of fundamental design principles.

>>13893045

>Doom 3

I'd rather play Half-Life with the gamma turned all the way down, that would be the same thing except better in level design.

>>13893053

Don't forget knives are absurdly powerful thanks to the perspective change.

>>13893067

The levels are also filled with long hallways that have like 5 enemies in them. I can kind of see where the designer was going – trying to translate the side scrolling sections to an FPS level – but it just comes off as a child's idea. Long empty hallways are not fun in any gsme irrespective of genre. The high point of that game is actually the boss fights, it seemed like he tried to approach that with a fresh angle instead of looking at a 2D Castlevania level and thinking "how can I extrapolate a 3rd dimension from this like a pop-up book."

Is there any way to play DOOM purely as a top down shooter?

>>13893308

tbh, somebody could probably make it-

>Make a simple script to detect the mouse in relation to the character on an axis, trigger turnleft() and turnright() as necessary.

>Change sprites and hitboxes to fit the new perspective.

>Change camera of course

>The tricky part really would be hiding rooms that you aren't in.

It would take some work, but like I said doable.

>>13893367

>hiding rooms

The automap already does that. All you need to do is add enemies to the automap and you're basically done.

BOST BEST WADS!

>>13890916

What's a good level pack to play Demon Steele with?

Well I did find this thing, but I haven't used it yet since I don't know how to load multiple WADs when running GZDoom in Linux.

http://www.mediafire.com/psxdoomtc

>>13894735

I also don't see why you'd need a BAT file considering how easy it is to load/manage several wads with ZDL.

>>13894735

Just use terminal:

gadoom /path/to/iwad /path/to/pwad1 /path/to/pwad2

And so on. If there are spaces in your directory or file names don't forget to use escape symbol (\) to avoid breaks. Once you've successfully launched a game you migh want to save this command into a bash script.

>>13894735

Works fine for me.

>>13894739

it's much easier to simply make a bat file than it is booting up zdl every time you want to play.

>>13895769

I have a few hundred mods and level sets and such, that's a lot of BAT files. Plus ZDL files can save everything except configurations. Thanks for the terminal advice though >>13894931

>>13895978

Well, what I'm suggesting is essentially the Linux version of BAT file. If you want to use a shitload of wad combinations easily you have to use something else.

That said, I found a Qt version of ZDL that should run under Linux:

https://github.com/qbasicer/qzdl

There's also Rocket Launcher 2, a cross-platform launcher that targets multiple source ports and even the original under DOSbox.

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/87120-rocket-launcher-2-0-cross-platform-doom-front-end/

I'm gonna check them out during the weekend and see if they're good.

Speaking of which, how can I make Project Brutality stop stuttering and dropping into single-digit FPS every time zombies start shooting?

>>13891262

The style of the weapon is pretty comfy but anything else is rather hideous. You should seriously consider hiring a spriter.

>>13896129

Alright, I tried compiling qzdl from source but ./configure refuses to work:

>checking qmake project building… configure: error: qmake not available

I do have qt-devel installed and up to date. Any way I can fix it? Distro is Fedora 26.

>>13896232

It seems to be a separate package, I guess you need to install qt4/qt4-make.

>>13896242

>>13896232

Nevermind, I just replaced all mentions of qmake with qmake-qt4 in configure script, it seems to be working fine now. It is a little difference in command names between distros.

>>13890916

Jesus christ this site is terrible. Was getting sick of 4chan and wanted something different but goddamn the UI on this site is atrocious. every page loads like shit too

>>13896535

I'm glad this place isn't like 4chan tbh. I don't like their crazy javascript captcha. Also I largely use non-javascript browsers anyway.

>>13896129

>Sean's Doom Arch Linux Repository is dead

Using Linux is suffering.

Hey guys, just want to let you know DOOM VFR has been released so you can experience the classic DOOM (2016) experience in VR, for the bargaining price of $30! Now you can play DOOM the way you always wanted, by constantly teleporting around. Just ignore the Mixed rating, the bugs will be fixed soon. I promise.

>>13898725

Unless you own an Oculus Rift. :^)

>>13898725

Tell you what, I might download it off the pirate bay sometime if I can be assed, Todd.

>>13893045

I didn't play the multiplayer so I'll take your word for it.

Any recommendations on Horror-themed .wads?

I'm having issues with the guns in Russian Overkill they keep going up in the air the more I fire at enemies. anyone else get this problem?

Are the wads the columbine guys made available anywhere?

>>13900683

It's a feature

>>13900763

yeah but it impedes gameplay. any way to turn it off

>>13890992

man I feel old. when I got Doom 2, a year or two later Columbine happened and the game got blamed so my mom took it off me. I live on my own now so I don't have to worry about that. also, it was the reason German class was taken out of my high school.

Italian got to stay. fucking dagos. ruining everything. my school was filled with them.

>>13901815

>it was the reason German class was taken out of my high school

wut?

>>13901823

doom 2 have secret wolf 3d levels

>>13901534

>3

>Masterful

A masterful pile of shit. People claim "oh, it'd be good if it wasn't called Doom", but that wouldn't fucking matter. Even if you strip the name away, it'd be a generic "horror" game with almost nothing of value besides some pretty lighting.

>>13900786

turn on mouse aim

How do I disable double tap dodge in BDSE?

>>13910096

It's fake.

>>13893819

Scythe 2, as that's what it was designed for.

Anyone here played Final Doomer? It's pretty fun for a weapon mod.

>>13917527

BTSXguy a shit. JCPCguy's pretty damn radicool though, plays alot like a proto-shadow warrior+touhou gimmick.

What's the skinny on Project MSX? Is it worth trying out?

Does anyone play chocolate Doom/Heretic/Hexen online?

>>13891522

>Gauntlet

It's "The Gantlet". Enjoy having your mind blown.

>>13920608

He said it was The Gauntlet.

>>13891262

tfw no redboy bf

>>13920439

There's a new version of Project MSX out?

No, of course there isn't. ;_;

>>13920439

It's great fun actually, probably one of my favorite gameplay mods for Doom. It's essentially finished, but abandoned nonetheless.

>>13920686

gay

>>13920667

English spellings change a lot, even in the last few years some words have started to be spelt differently.

You've probably seen people using "tho" as a shortform version of "though", but that's exactly how words change spelling. I wouldn't be surprised if "tho" became the common standard spelling of the word in my lifetime.

Is it just me, or did Brutal Doom make every single classic FPS out there feel like hot garbage? It's just everything you want from a classic FPS it's not even funny anymore. Also, it makes the likes of Painkiller and Serious Sam look like fucking trash (even though they're pretty shitty to begin with tbf).

>>13922004

>Doom and Quake are more crowd control than a twitch shooter

Nah, crowd control sounds more like Serious Sam which is just waves after waves. Doom and Quake were pretty twitchy. And regardless of being twitch or not, Brutal Doom is incredibly responsive in visuals and controls. The gore system really pushes the 2D capability of the engine, and the weapons just feel meaty and powerful. And try playing it in realism mode where most enemies die in a single shotgun fire, using the minigun feels really great.

As for Serious Sam, I don't give 2 shits about the series. They're all overblown garbage with cheap design and little attention to details. The gunplay feels weak, the combat feels really tedious, and the level design is just incredibly half assed. How autistic can you be to become a SS fan?

>>13921974

>painkiller

>serious sam

stop, these are about as classic as halo, and only a year older. They aren't classic shooters despite how hard serious sam fags want to believe that they're just like doom or quake. they aren't. the game is far worse.

>>13922193

That's why I didn't lump them with classic shooters.

>>13922045

>Nah, crowd control sounds more like Serious Sam

What the fuck do you think Doom and Quake are are nigger?

Priotization, avoiding fire and strafing while keeping your weapon on the enemy.

Thats not a twitch shooter

>As for Serious Sam, I don't give 2 shits about the series. They're all overblown garbage with cheap design and little attention to details. The gunplay feels weak, the combat feels really tedious, and the level design is just incredibly half assed. How autistic can you be to become a SS fan?

Fuckoff Roland

>>13923028

I think the sheer amount of enemies Serious Sam puts you against at one time also changes how the game operates, plus a lot of them will actively charge at you at a speed that strafing alone won't deal with.

>>13923028

I don't know what that BDkiddie is smoking, but doom is more about positioning, resource management and enemy-priotization, rather than raw SSG swing skillz outside of deathmatch, mostly because enemies are so goddamn SLOW even on fastmonsters. I think he may have drank too much of the A_FastChase and headshot hitbox's x5 damage coolaid on that shitfest of a mod, which may lead him to believe that kind of bullshit.

>>13923028

He's right though, the level designs in Serious Sam games are basically just a bunch of big cubes connected to one another with different window dressing. The turret maze in BFE was pretty interesting though.

>>13924374

yeah, serious sam is the last game you look to for good level design. most levels are really samey and dripfeed you new enemy types and really drag on with expanding very boring engagement types.

>>13924335

>>13924335

It depends on what version of Doom you're playing. Vanilla Doom 1 and 2 can be considered as crowd control, but Plutonia and TNT are really twitch. And regarding Quake, it has it's moments where you have to do some crowd control, but there are also really fast enemies you have to actively jump and strafe around to avoid.

>Fuckoff Roland

ROland who? Dumbass.

>>13923775

Tbh, I didn't really understand what crowd control means. But yeah, SS has a lot of segments that make your left hand feel cramped. I thought it could be classified as crowd control due to how the game just throws as many enemies as possible to you.

>>13924374

Why is that a bad thing? Levels in DMC and Bayonetta are mostly big open squares too, do you see anyone shitting on those games for that reason?

>>13924594

Two entirely different game genres. Due to the camera angles used in Cuhrayzee games things like complex rooms, traps and such would make the game a pain to navigate and not very fun to play. If they were played from a pure third person perspective then the level design could get more interesting.

>>13924660

>defending serious shit

>on a doom thread

No, (You).

>>13924734

False equivalence

Eat shit BDnigger

>>13924750

What an autistic game. Here's another (You), now git.

>>13924754

The enemy spawning and position can be very unpredictable in both those games. These are the twitch moments.

How easy would it be to make a mod where pressing a key throws out a punch, instead of having to bring up fists first? Like I have the shotgun out, I press F to throw a punch, and then the shotgun comes back up? Idk just random thoughts

>>13925680

Both trailblazer and Project Brutality do it, and theres MSX with Halo-style melee as well. You can just copy their code, probably.

>>13924623

>Two entirely different game genres

Heeeeey, it's as if Doom/Quake's style of level design isn't an universal standard for what makes a good level in any game and that it should suit the gameplay of the respective game first and foremost. Considering that, why would Serious San be an exception to this principle?

>>13927505

Some maps do rely on teleporting in stuff from hidden rooms which kind of result in "random spawns", the way enemies activate can also mean you encounter them at less predictable points in some cases.

>>13927610

That still highly depends on how the teleport was activated by the player, which can be manipulated by movement and use of weaponry to properly take advantage of the situation because of how enemy AI works. Also, teleports can't be random spawns in TNT or Plutonia, as they din't have rand locations for teleport trigger lines due to engine limitations as well, they could only do sequential spawning on specific locations and you can test for this by just saving before triggering a teleport trap and loading it right afterwards so it triggers again.

>>13926443

Because it's in the exact same genre and DOOM 2 had no problem with having levels that were complex, fun to navigate and included massive amounts of enemies. Serious Sams level design is extremely lazy and uninspired as fuck.

>>13922004

But, anon… the mod that was being talked about is a fag mod

>>13890916

Any of you have the moonman mod?

>>13942168

Yes, and half the goddamn thread was giving its furry creator grief

>>13942794

I wonder if the furry is going to be assmad when people compare his mod unfavorably to The Adventures of Square.

>>13929834

>Because it's in the exact same genre and DOOM 2 had no problem with having levels that were complex, fun to navigate and included massive amounts of enemies. Serious Sams level design is extremely lazy and uninspired as fuck.

Do you really want tighter levels like Doom filled with Headless Kamikazes and Kleers for Serious Sam?

>>13899554

1993.wad

>>13894156

wadsmoosh

>>13951136

There is Hideous Destructor which is arguably the most tacticool Doom mod out there, though it doesn't seem to have ironsights.

>>13891262

Lad, is is gay if you say "no homo" afterwards?

>>13952505

needs some proper irons/optics. OFP shows you can have really good 2D irons, transparency use even makes it more realistic than 3d.

>>13953113

Hideous Destructor tries to assume you're already aiming down sights for every moment you're idle with your crosshairs. There's also usage of optics once you presss the Zoom button which is now changed to let you view both iron sights and scope sights right above them.

Also you're comparing a models/megatextures/polygons engine with a 2D sprites game.

>>13953420

look again, that's a screen sized flat texture. like i said OFP had great 2d irons. it's hard to do a peep sight correctly in 3d.

best implementation of scopes in a game to date was also 2d, best eyeboxing and movement.

>>13956469

There's always one Cacoward that's more an interesting side show than anything.

>>13956469

It's the wad that Graf sperged over because GZDoom is visually incompatible with it.

>>13896535

>>13896556

Ah, so there has been another exodus. Do consider going back.

>>13963167

cuck/vr/ wasn't hit as hard by the hotpocketeers as /v/ did during the whole GG debacle, so they just ignored things and kept wallowing in shit until their doom thread finally drowned in reddit-tier shitposting.

>>13964756

What other sort of shitposting can there be in Doom threads besides BD related? I can't imagine them being particularly creative.

>>13964940

Most likely shitposting about how the entire Doom community is pozzed because of the state of Doomworld or something.

Psst… I've got something for you. That stuff is not really supposed to be out now, but here it is.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/s4ouc8ftig8geca/joymaps5-intbeta2.pk3?dl=1

There's possibly more to come. And no, I'm not the one who started JoM. I'm just someone who has nothing to do.

>>13966179

I'm gonna run this unexplained WAD with High Noon Drifter, Brutal Doom, and Lilith. What's the worst that could happen?

>>13966380

Nothing, really. But maps in there are WIP. So things can and will change. Bugs are to be expected. After all, that build is basically closed beta test. It doesn't even have all the maps in there. There's at least one map missing, because it needs extra touch ups, like adding monsters or something like that.

>>13967389

I'm finding it runs unusually slow on my Chromebook, not sure if that's just me using the latest GZDoom though.

>>13967391

>Chromebook

It's certainly GZDoom itself being slow. You can try bumping down the res and toggling off various extra effects like bloom or ambient occlusion. I know that virtual res option should be able to provide some speedup too.

>>13967492

Will do, will probably wait for the proper release of Winter Weekend, just in case.

>>13967391

>not sure if that's just me using the latest GZDoom though.

>Graf Zahl Doom

Here is your problem.

You should commission some artist to redraw the entire original spriteset in HD, with the same exact style. I know I would, if I cared about Doom.

>>13965264

>shitposting about how the entire Doom community is pozzed because of the state of Doomworld or something

I'm not even a doomfag, and I remember the takeover when spergs wouldn't shut up about tone policing about niggers.

>>13971473

that looks fucking awful dude

>>13971483

I think that's the point

>>13971473

See

>>13971483

I mean something that doesn't look like dogshit

So since gzdoom is a piece of shit because of bad coding, what else is there since zdoom has been discontinued?

>>13974244

Older less broken versions of GZDoom.

Hey guys, are there any good wads with a more light-hearted style? I want more colorful environments with the same gameplay of DOOM. I know about Golden Souls, The Woolball series as well as The Adventures of Square already.

>>13974628

What about ZDoom32? The author seems to give a fuck about older PC.

>>13974244

>>13974628

>>13975232

QZDoom is still a thing and it's basically just zdoom with truecolour instead of palette limitations.

Why do newer version of GZDoom and Zandorum run like shit on my PC? An old version of GZdoom runs without frame drops whatsoever, but the newer ones dip into sub 20 everytime theres too much blood.

On a related note, why is this shit not working?

http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/brutal-patch

What button should I press to get into the extended menu?

>>13981053

Didn't read the whole thing; OpenGL is already deprecated as a whole and not going to be updated. On top of being shitty state machine with tons of limitations that's a hassle to work with, it's FUCKING SLOW. Vulkan is the way to go if you're crossfag, DX12 if you're microfag and Metal if you're macfag.

>>13980210

In addition to >>13981053 GZDoom often times implements things in a half baked state. Audio has been broken since the GPL release, and the two autistic fucks that went spastic for it (Graf and Chris) have done nothing but let the bug report pile up. Chris hasn't fixed an audio bug in over 6 months. So glad they ripped Randi's sound code out. Just use an old version of GZDoom. If devs complain, bitch at them for taking half a year to work on the most basic of bugs.

>>13956469

Because the Doom community is fucking retarded.

>Thread

>>13956469

Graf, get the fuck out of here and drop GZDoom.

>>13922184

Fuck, I remember the early days of Doom 4 being announced and anons hoping it would be good.

Instead we got a shitty Halo game.

>>13983085

I find many of the mods including newest iteration of Brutal Doom to be incompatible with old gzDoom.

>>13985258

It was good imo, and no matter if you like it or not, it's nothing like Halo. The enemies are bullet sponge, but that's what glory kill is for. The only downsides are the shitty collectibles and the engine can't display more than a dozen enemies on screen. Hopefully the sequel will be closer to the classics. Brutal Doom is still more fun due to the non bullet sponge enemies, enemy count, and all, but nuDoom wasn't a bad game either.

>>13981053

So I've been wondering, is this rachael faggot a tranny? Because I'm sure as hell getting those kinds of vibes from his posts. On a more related note, give me a good Hexen mapset.

>>13986850

Making maps for Doom should be easy.

Doom Builder 2 and it's variants, followed by Slade 3 and Eureka.

If you want to take advances of ZDoom mapping capabilities then Doom Builder 2 should be good, else Slade 3 or Eureka is sufficient.

>Modding.

It depends, ZDoom has Decorate, ACS and ZScripting. ACS and ZScript are trickier to

work with and requires more knowledge, Decorate is the simplest and is sufficient for a lot of things, as long you don't need special features. There is also Dehacked which doom itself indirectly supports but modding wise you cannot do much like adding new actors.

>Sprites making

Either you draw them by hand which can look good if done well, but that requires a lot of time and drawing knowledge. Or you learn a 3D program such as Blender, 3DS Max and what else and make models, then you can render the sprites. Blender and 3DS Max have a steep learning curve and if you want really good looking models then you need to look into High-Poly modelling and Sculpting. If you don't mind Graf Zahls fuckery much you could use GZDoom or ZDoom 32 to use 3D models directly instead of rendering them, but it has to be low-polyish.

Generally ZDoom is pretty easy to work with, it might be a bit rough on the edges but it is good enough that it still has a relative strong going modding community.

>>13986882

Thanks for the tips.

>>13985462

Funny, that's what I've been thinking as well.

>>13986813

Stalker is a boring walking simulator, who cares.

>>13986813

Nigger I can tell you now. This will get big so don't fuck up.

>>13986882

What about GZDoom Builder?

>>13988186

Well it is obviously a variant of Doom Builder 2, it will just work as well. Actually you should use the bugfix version instead, since GZDoom Builder is discontinued nobody works on it anymore. Hence the bugfix fork version exist.

>>13986894

No problem.

>>13985462

This is everything I know about Rachael.

Rachael was previously Euranna, and before that Soul Priestess. Everywhere she goes, Drama follows her and she usually opens up a payment option for her "illness". She claims she can't get the money herself and gives the name of a "male friend" who will forward her the money. I forget exactly what she said, but she said this back during her Skulltag days. It's possible it's a dude, it's possibly it's a tranny. What's certain is, expect her to start begging for money someday soon.

The only other information ever released was by various Skulltag Server hosts that said her IP was from Littleton Colorado. She also said last year she was in Highschool when Shadow Warrior (The original in 1997) came out and used to make maps for it.

>>13988520

ReMooD's Ex developer is too: https://archive.fo/NRuPW

RestlessRodent used to be GhostlyDeath, a hyper autist no one likes.

Welp, come to load the Call of Duty mod again. I hear there's a new version in the works that adds the guns from Black Ops.

>>13988636

Basically yes that explains them + Major Cooke and Gez have huge personal issues. I think the only three people who have any clue what they're doing are _mental_, dpjudas, and Blzut3 (albeit, not his old code). Outside of ZDoom, Torr Samaho is a great last time I checked on Zan.

Major Cuck is just as incompetent as Groofy Zahl and just as fucked up as Princess Viscera Maelstorm. Gez's autism is so thick you can feel it through the internet. He takes everything literal.

>>13988636

i haven't even finished playing the other ones yet i'm on clear sky now and it just feels low energy

So far my reference is just running SoC on another monitor and just walking around. i even took those textures from screenshots because I didn't know how to edit the stalker textures yet It would be a lot easier if I could load the original maps in the xray level editor (I could even overlay it on my screen and trace the outlines of the buildings) but apparently you need to decompile them and still I haven't found out how to do that.

Post winter / arctic / seasonal / whatever wad recommendations.

>Whitemare

>Whitemare 2

Russian community projects. Maps range in quality from 'pretty good' to 'literal myhouse.wad'. Too eclectic to really comment on as a whole.

>Winter's Fury

Custom monsters. Zdoom scripting and particle effects out the ass. COD-tier retarded plot involving smoke monsters or some shit. Still fun.

>Mogor's Winter

Rather Build-esque, I.E., realistic real world locations, lots of single-use detail textures, and sector-built furniture everywhere. A bit resource-starved and heavy on hitscanners. Recommend playing with carryover rather than pistol start.

>Dark 7

Arctic Techbase. Haven't actually gotten around to playing this one yet.

>wanted a Zero Tolerance remake in DOOM for forever

>find out some Russian dude started a WAD a year ago

>looking at the 1.0 footage and while not perfect looks very decent

>check out some of the newer footage hes put up

>random bosses

>shit that wasn't in the original

>many many many more additions

All I wanted was a remake of the Sega game so it would look good, this is like looking at an HD "Remake" of a game now a days.

>>13988906

"Plateau of Leng" Chapter from Strange Aeons I guess.

>>13994559

I knew what this was and still clicked it.

>>13986813

Why they all are so tiny?

RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE

>>13996879

But how do we deal with the existential dread of knowing that we can never truly enjoy every Doom wad that catches our interest in full knowing that we will one day die?

https://inmost-dens.tumblr.com/post/168644024204/link-httpsforumzdoomorgviewtopicphpf-1t-5

>An IMPORTANT GZDoom update has been released, which aside from some minor fixes and improvements (borderless window mode!) also fixes a potentially nasty flaw which was discovered recently. All support for older versions has been discontinued, so get on it.

>All support for older versions has been discontinued, so get on it.

How convenient?

>>13999417

>You are forced to use a older version of GZDoom because of old GPU? Too bad no more support for you!

Thanks Graf.

> also fixes a potentially nasty flaw which was discovered recently.

Geeh whiz I wonder what it could be.

>>13999758

Graf himself didn't write the tumblr post.

Wonder what the specific error was anyway.

>>13999800

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=58775

ConsoleCommand nonsense.

>>13999664

>You are forced to use a older version of GZDoom because of old GPU? Too bad no more support for you!

And if isn't Graf's terrible OpenGL giving you problems, it's Chris' terrible OpenAL, a person who only fixes audio bugs once every 2 years or so.

>>13999800 (checked)

Apart from the Dynamic Lights being shit I haven't experienced much any other OpenGL related bug or at least I can't remember it. My GPU supports OpenGL 4.0 something which is a bit old by today's standard, still it fucking pisses me off how he never implements any useful features when he is going to enforce a higher version. Let alone of all the various performance issuse from other users reports. Man he worked on his shit for 12 fucking years yet he couldn't be bothered picking up a OpenGL book? Ridiculous.

>it's Chris' terrible OpenAL, a person who only fixes audio bugs once every 2 years or so.

Does it also include where sounds gets cancelled immediately despite I set the sound channels to 128? It is annoying having to work like that. Also it would explain why Zandro audio would get messed up all the time back then when I had ((PulseAudio)) installed, at least ALSA fixed this shit.

>once very 2 years.

Might as well not do any shit there then.

>>14000215

>Files on the user's system can be overwritten with the logFile command.

Incredible.

>>14000268

Does Zandro use OpenAL on Linux? I know Zandro is based on 2.7.1 and that was before the OpenAL merge, and even after the merge FMOD was still the default. It might just be a PulseAudio thing, it is potteringsoft after all.

>Might as well not do any shit there then.

Basically that's what he does. Shows up, does some work, disappears for a year or two, comes back and does huge amount of shit, then when bug reports roll in he goes MIA. I've watched it happen slowly over the past 8-9 years. He'll do work randomly from about March-May, and then not fix one single audio related problem for a whole year, sometimes two. This time though he just shit posts in Off-Topic.

There's people who have literally no audio in GZDoom right now and have to use an old version just to play.

>>14000882

>Did the (((developers))) responded to them at all?

Chris asked for more information, then stopped responding. Others just gave up and stopped responding, or never came back to the topic. One user replied to the topic venting their frustration that they were sure glad they reported the bug so that Chris could ignore it, but Rachael decided it might hurt Chris's feelings and split it to the Hall of Unpleasantness.

I don't know if it's still a bug, but OGGs don't loop in OpenAL last time I tried. Worked fine with FMOD.

>>14001603

I'm surprised you even have to ask. ZDoom's forums are fucking cancer.

>>14001603

Oggs loop if they get to the end of the song, but they ignore LOOP_START and LOOP_END, I forget which. If you are not using those, you are fine.

>So they also locked the thread about the complaints?

She split the post sorry: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=45708&p=1024397 The guy is understandably upset.

>>14001729

>even post about asking question gets moved

Those mods really are a bunch of faggots, holy shit. I never made a account there because I dunno never saw the point of it.

>>14001638

Man fuck Zdooms forums, I have a batch of "most recomended mods" throughout the years and there is a read me of some cunt mouthing off about community whatever and put some obnoxious fucking explanation text in every single fucking wad folder.

>>14003774

They're a prime example of what happens when you let a bunch of total losers and lefties run a forum site. You can tell these people work dead end jobs and have serious cases of unwarranted self-importance just by how they take any and all opportunities to exercise power over posters that they're supposed to be moderating discussion for. I make some mods myself, but I never post that shit on ZDF because I don't want to deal with their constant faggotry. Honestly anyone who's a big name in the "Doom Community" is usually a giant piece of shit, there are very few exceptions. Considering that most of them also post on ZDF, it's no surprise it's a dumpster fire.

GZDoom needs to die and have a new child port rise in its place, just to shed the garbage community surrounding it right now.

>>13988636

Essel is also a tranny btw, Michael Mancuso is now "Sarah" Mancuso

>>14003835

>A fagget who made BTSX

oh kurwa, the BTSX map looks pretty neat.

>Coming from a fellow former Skulltag staff member myself, my only gripe was how biased the promotions were within the staff. I was there a good 2+ years as a global moderator, yet some other guy who had only been in the staff for a total of 6-7 months at all was promoted to administrator over me. Same thing is *still* going on today. These people who have only been in the staff for a matter of months are rising up to administrator out of nowhere. It's ridiculous.

Welp, Doom Exodus when?

>>14003884

I literally watched this happen on the ZDoom discord. Some BR furry joined and within a month had some pseudo-dev status despite doing exactly jack shit of any real consequence. The people at the top of these sites are a very tight in-group and if you're not in with them you're not gonna get anywhere. On the other hand if you are you're going places regardless.

Shit, even cuckchan's /vr/ is like that, except it's the guys who used to run the old IRC that seem to shill each other's shit.

Are there any good Christmas DM maps?

>>14003911

Don't worry dubsman, esselfortium is more like a project leader rather than a sole creator of BTSX.

>>14003935

Essel has still made a fuckton of maps for a lot of projects and most of them have been good so, tranny or not, he earned his glory.

>>14003734

Thing is, they bitch when people make "useless bumps" about a project, but they don't make the reuploads topic visible. Also, I have never seen another forum with a projects forum where admins and mods get pissy because someone asked a legitimate question about a mod.

>>14003800

The community won't ever go I'm afraid, they'll just make the discussion about the new child port that becomes the defacto standard. Of course, said developer could just ignore them.

>>14003817

FUCK! I found the post. I thought Essel was sort of an okay person, and those comments are so fucking cancerous. Seems to be a trend in progressive communities.

>>14003835

Doomworld has been the Doominati for a long time. If you post something on another site and they find out it was you, they will force you to apologize on the site containing the offending message else your banned from DW. Carnevil used to get fucked over by them on a regular basis and eventually cut ties with DW and moved Skulltag to its own home. Carnevil though was really bad at picking staff and allowed a new Domminati take over eventually even robbing him of Skulltag.com by none other than Rachael.

>>14003884

>Doom Exodus

Isn't that what this thread basically is?

>>14003915

zmas2k5 is pretty solid.

>>14003893

>The people at the top of these sites are a very tight in-group and if you're not in with them you're not gonna get anywhere.

You know those groups of people that intellectually masturbate to each others comments? They're like that, but it's who can be the most progressive.

I really miss the days when politics was kept out of games/doom and where going on about being a woman/trans/furry was considered unacceptable and you were allowed to ridicule them.

>>13985462

Wolfen is pretty good.

>>14004575

>Isn't that what this thread basically is?

Yeah I meant along the lines of those people over at ((Doom Forums)) who are fed up with all those bullshit going on as you and other anons described it, so that they decided to make their own place instead free of WildGreasel and co faggotry. Well one man can hope I guess.

>>13982949

>And what is even the point of having a Vulkan only render besides the software one for GZDoom?

Purely theoretically you could have a massively fast hardware renderer that wouldn't even start to chug until you threw some really ridiculous shit at it or even a compute shader based SW renderer that could offload the CPU for very low power system

But neither of those things are necessary and both require being competent to make.

>>14004621

What did WW do? I only check forums for wad updates and never bothered to check any thread that didn't have a download link for something I wanted

>>14004750

>What did WW do?

Being a hypocrite. If my memory serves right he banned a goy because he criticized the work of somebody else whose other details I forget. And then some few post later WildGreasel nagged some other poster over some stuff, which of course he is allowed to do that because hotpockets are never held accountable for their action.

>>14004777(great trips)

Sounds like this happened a long time ago. I don't visit forums that much nowadays anyway. And even if I visit them, I visit them for mods or levels.

>>14005856

>have the Gunlabs blog as sort of a programming backlog I've wanted to tackle

>that image

Well shit, kinda feel like throwing out the baby with the bathwater on this one.

>>14005955

Honestly if you want to learn to make weapons for ZDoom just tear apart BURL TUMD or something. WW's gunlabs blogpost is alright but a bit outdated.

>>14005962

Oh yeah certainly, it's over a year old at this point and all.

>>14006054

Seems that it isn't as common anymore. Anyways here you go: http://oblacek.sh.cvut.cz/bin/zmas2k5_final.zip

>>14006355

Thanks. Also while we're requesting stuff, I can't find BURL TUMD. Although, looking at Youtube videos of it, it doesn't look impressive when compared to the likes of Final Doomer.

More like bad game thread

>>14006355

Thanks, fam. I'm working on a little something of my own to host too.

>>14006386

It's an older mod but it's really simple internally so it's good to learn the basics from.

https://mega.nz/#!fpt2DbzL!V81u-LrmpbiGndzAhyBk54-qg2nsdnHOILWBNtKY_60

>>14006411

Ah, well that would be useful in that regard. Thanks.

>>14005856

Cuckchan's /vr/ became part of the Doominati sometime in the last few years. Not sure if ZDoom ever did, I don't keep up with /vr/.

>I'm convinced that the vast majority of these people are still mad that they weren't popular in high school

It's true. These kind of people get power in their hobbyist communities and quickly start using it as a political soapbox. It's like they stopped maturing at highschool and never got over it. I honestly don't care what the believe in, I just want to have fun, which was how things used to be.

>but letting other people who he knows personally infringe on that same "tone" to a far greater degree

He lets anyone in the super secret club group (plunder something) on ZDoom get a free pass, and always rushes to the aid of any women/FTMs in topics.

>>14006386

Oh and on top of that, Final Doomer is a goddamn modding warcrime inside, a fact that Yholl fully agrees with, so don't go digging in there until you learn what you're doing.

>>14006422

Oh, wouldn't dream of it until I'm able to implement multiple weapon sets in the same WAD.

>>14006422

DoomRL is way, way worse from what I've heard from Yholl.

>>14006386

Does "burl_zan_tumd_v7ish.pk3" sound correct? There's several.

>>14006397

When you say host, do you mean that you are going to host zmas2k5?

>>14006464

>that code

I'm not even a coder and this makes me really mad for some reason. I want to scream like a revenant at sight of this.

>>14006482

To be fair the label for that state is something like THECRIMEZONEPLSNOLOOK

>>14006455

I'm going to gather up a bunch of christmas stuff and host it for anyone that's around on Christmas day after the JKA gamenight.

>>14006561

Sounds like fun. Guess it's time to reinstall Zandronum I suppose.

>>14006421

>Cuckchan's /vr/ became part of the Doominati sometime in the last few years

About the same time IMX and ijon left and a certain (((popular modder))) was left in charge of the IRC.

>He lets anyone in the super secret club group (plunder something) on ZDoom get a free pass

It's Plunderbund, same as the discord role. The death knell for any community is sooper seekrit klubs IMO.

>>14006561

Rad. Looking forward to it.

The last Zandro game night was really, really fun.

Cuckchan get out, if you're not even going to read all the sources proving how fucked the community is you don't deserve to be here.

>>14007426

Who the hell are you referring to? Most of the thread seem to agree that the Zdoom and Skulltag community are terminal and the Doomworld community is only in a slightly better state.

>>14007426

Sources? What sources?

>>14007483

Cuckchan is throwing a fit over us daring to talk about shit their jannies nuke instantly.

>>14007486

Read the thread or get out.

>>14007500

Well I read it. Don't really engage with the Doom community aside from personally following Kinsie, Terminus and the Wantopus Woman. What else are we supposed to do? Actively destroy them?

>>14007526

Tell them to take their shit elsewhere. They're basically Doomworld at this point, just with less usernames and more shitposting.

>>14007577

So, let me get this right. You're complaining that a bunch of cuckchanners lurk here and then go back to whine at /vr/? How the fuck are we supposed to prevent that?

>>14007620

No, I told them to get the fuck out.

>>14007500

Nah, (you) get out.

>>14007639

That looks interesting, but why are the pyramids in the background full bright?

>>14007639

That looks pretty damn cool honestly. I'd like to see it in motion.

>but it seems like I should be a little cautious?

Just realize that they're the same forumite cancer that you get pretty much everywhere that isn't a chan.

>>14007628

Well, that's not going to achieve anything. Why aren't you laughing at the salt we're generating and posting funny screencaps instead?

>>14007526

The best way is to undermine them. Find alternate places to discuss and organize things. Zdoom forums are doing a swell job chasing away their users.

Hell, the Doom generals could be come /agdg/'ish places for wad and mod development. Imagine the salt if we managed to cobble together an 8ch community megawad. Especially if it wasn't half-bad.

>>14007646

They is two reasons why; I love how modern day Egypt looks at night with the light reflecting against it, and I just think it looks cool just in general. I could probably add some shadows to the side of the pyramids

I should probably point out, despite the fact this can sound a bit of a cop out is that I sort of want to avoid sector based shadows too much. I want to try the Might and Magic 8/Lands of Lore 3 approach where its more so texture and fog focused. It just sort of looks weird when the player characters dont have dynamic shadows Well, in the case of my project, all non 3D characters just have a circle but the environment stimulates it. Its a shame applying alpha to shadows like the ones my characters use just causes a visual mess.

>>14007666

That megawad is a pretty good idea Satan. We'd just need to be able to organize it.

>>14007666

> Imagine the salt if we managed to cobble together an 8ch community megawad

I'd be up for this. It's already been shown that TrumpDoom and Moonman doom can get them salty, but we could even beat them with a serious megawad.

>>14007673

Oh okay, looking forward to seeing it progress.

Also about your previous question

>should be a little cautious?

Depends on the people you interact with and who your mod is for.

>>14007676

I was actually thinking of something like that today, Like one of those threads where people take a section of box art and redraw it. Was thinking of asking for an original 64x64 or 128x128 texture from random anons, after presenting the basic outline for a map, and then applying whatever textures they came up with.

>>14007736

The only Zdoom person I talk to is Keagan and Terminus, and they are cool dudes. Terminus is the reason I am as far as I am with this Engine, since he was the one who showed me the ropes. In regards to who the mod is for, that's actually an odd question. I am not actually trying to replicate a doom experience with this mod, as, I have mentioned ever since I started this, this mod is basically System Shock 2: Fantasy and Quicker Gun Play Edition I guess that would technically make it Lands of Lore 3; Gun Edition

>>14007775

You could probably do that easily considering myself and a few other Doom modders browse AGDG here. I wouldn't participate in it myself though, since I can't pull myself from the project

>>14007666

Yes, Satan. That's an excellent idea! Half/vr/ did community megawad thingie a couple of times. Apparently it all turned out really good.

>>14007775

I want to see /v/ try making these

>>13994715

Could be fun.

>>14007785

>Terminus

Enjoy it while it lasts, if you do even a single thing he doesn't like you'll be on a shit list forever. Just look at what happened to Blox. Makes practically 60% of term's little indie game for that competition and all Term does is talk shit about him. Same with Scroton too, god forbid he was a bit of a weirdo and now every time Term talks about him it's nothing but negatives. I could go on but there's no point

>>14007955

Please, go on. This sounds somewhat interesting.

>>14007955

Are you Blox or Scroton?

>>14007990

It's exactly what it sounds like, the guy's a goon. He's got a history of alienating people and also has a tendency to barely even make half of the mods he releases. In addition, while on #vr I watched him witch-hunt quite a few people and have seen him be a dick to many more on the forums. He's the kind of guy who's insanely concerned with his reputation and not much else, hence why he's always bandwagoning late when you see him make posts about anything remotely controversial.

>>14007987

I can be either for u bby

>>14008013

Heh, was just curious.

>>14008013

If only you could actually back up your words with screencaps… You(or perhaps someone else) did back the "visiting SA" part some threads ago. I was on #vr and I really cannot recall the witch-hunt part. I do recall Mystical dropping Doom and just disappearing from the channel. I believe Marrub did the same too and disappeared, along with his bots. He did come back later when first version of Lithium got released.

>>14008013

Do you know why ijon stopped working with him? I remember some drama surrounding that but it's been a few years so I don't remember the specifics. However

>has a tendency to barely even make half of the mods he releases

This is hilariously accurate for his older stuff. He's historically been more of an idea guy, even today. He only really started to learn how to do the complex stuff himself around Demonsteele.

>>14008013

>>14007955

I still talk with Scroton to this day, so…uh…try again?

>>14008054

ijon got bored of Doom, that's it. Now he's playing Payday 2, though he's been prodding back at Doom recently.

And yeah, it's true. DemonSteele was the big learning point for me, everything else before then was referenced a lot from other people's work.

>>14008053

He's got a video up about NiY on his channel where he doesn't even mention Blox at all except to talk shit a few times even though Blox did the majority of Sprite work on the game. Also if you check up Scroton's Zandro post history you can find Term randomly being a prick to him. As for the rest you might have to fish it out yourself, I don't tend to save drama, I just remember it (poorly).

>>14008054

I think ijon had a meltdown over not getting enough credit for cyberrunner but I'm almost straight up asspulling that due to my lack of memory of the exact specifics. Iirc in on also had a lot of terrible IRL shit going on too so that may have been a factor. Term's never been the best at making sure people know who did what in his mods. Even today, tons of HND wasn't made by him, but try finding that out.

>>14007318

That was me actually, but with other people to help admin. I'll have that music stream set up again too.

>>14008097

>Term's never been the best at making sure people know who did what in his mods. Even today, tons of HND wasn't made by him, but try finding that out.

Can you point out what I've missed? I'd be happy to update the credits file, if needed.

Please, feel free to be as in-depth as you'd like.

>>14008101

Cool. The music stream was the best part of it.

>>14008105

It's not about a credits file and you know it. You just use that as an excuse to ride to success on the backs of other people's work then leave them in the dust. I'm not surprised you showed up here to defend yourself with how obsessed you are with the idea of your fame. You know what's funny? I used to actually look up to you too, until I met you and saw the way you treat people. You keep those useful close to you and chuck them once they don't provide what you need to validate your ego. Fuck off back to halfchan, maybe a few more of your groupies will suck you off there.

>>14008135

>>14008105

Can I just point out I had no involvement what so ever with any of this and this is kinda awkward after posting some progress

>>14008194

Post some webms if you've got 'em. Your project looks pretty neato.

>>14008135

I'm sorry, anon, I don't understand.

You say I'm not the best at letting people know who did what, but when I offer to let you point things out what I've missed, you say that's not what it's about.

You say I throw away people who aren't useful to me, but out of the examples you've given, I still talk to and have fun with most of them. We bants back and forth with each other and yell shit at each other.

It's all right if you don't like me, anon, but at least do so for actual reasons rather than making things up. >>14008054 hit the nail on the head, but I've been trying to make up for it lately by doing more things myself.

Or just call me a faggot and be done with it. That'll save a lot of time.

>>14008194

Oh, I don't have anything yet; I may post some progress tomorrow in regards to the village map I been working on, but I been too focused on finishing the demo to make too many vids.

I just worry a bit since I don't want to generate too much negative discussion in regards to certain people when people see that my project is a ZDoom one.

>>14008237

There's going to be negative discussion no matter what. Some people are gonna love things, some people are gonna hate things, some people are going to be more interested in behind-the-scenes stuff, it can't be helped.

You've just gotta make the best game you can. You told me the demo was almost done, right? You still aiming for shortly after 2018 or was that pushed back a bit?

>>14008235

>making things up

Fuck off with your condescending bullshit. I'm not going to sit here and be talked down to by a guy who got famous for Doom modding before he could even write ACS scripts about how I'm wrong about his crediting policy. Your high-and-mighty attitude won't carry you in a place where your fame counts for nothing. You're just as bad as the rest of the ZDoom and Skulltag shitbags only you were the first one to post on /vr/ so they all suck you off like you shoot gold out of your cock.

>We're all still friends lol

Yeah fucking right, the only ones you're friends with are the ones who are also in your super secret club of Doom modders who do free shit for you in your projects. All the rest (myself fucking included by the way) get treated like peasant trash. Fuck you. And no I'm not identifying myself.

>>14008243

The Demo should be out by Febuary the Latest. I wanted to finish it by christmas, but I can't guarantee it. I Got one more map to finish, then I gotta touch up and play test it all. it is soon though!

>>14008274

Only one more map? Damn, you're further than me, then, I've been stuck on mapping for quite some time.

Either way, cool, looking forward to it.

>>14008262

>Fuck you. And no I'm not identifying myself.

Boy for someone who has this massive of a chip on their shoulder and talks shit this fierce, you sure are a coward. I bet you don't even have the stones to try to sort this out personally with Term and anyone else that you have beef with.

Nah, you'll just sulk here, spouting shit on your little soapbox in impotent rage.

You're a disgrace. I hate people like you.

>>14008930

Weak bait fanboi. I'm sure Term can fight his own battles and doesn't need underageb& dipshits like yourself talking shit and making his oh so precious image tarnished. And if this is term phone posting, the projection is hilarious.

>>14008961

I ain't a fanboi, I think Term can be a fucking idiot sometimes, in fact I dislike how he's left shit half finished at times. But I've told him that.

Maybe you should do the same rather than just being an anonymous memer.

>>14008968

>I ain't a fanboi

Could have fooled me. You do realize I did tell him all of this years ago and that's why what happened between us happened right? He didn't want to hear criticism then and he still doesn't now, unless you're one of his little Doominati Discord buddies.

Stop defending someone that you probably don't even know. Fanboy.

>>14008990

I've known him for four years. I've yelled at him a lot, and called him a lot of names, he pisses me off, but at the end of the day we've also sat down and talked shit out and sorted shit for the better.

Again, maybe you should try just talking with the guy rather than jumping down his throat.

>>14008996

Can't, doesn't work. Every time I tried he just gave me the cold shoulder or gave me some politer equivalent of "fuck off". Eventually I stopped trying, and at this point my only goal is to make sure everyone knows what a cliquey piece of shit he is.

>>14009013

Then I'm sorry it's gotten to that level, and I'm sorry you've given up. Maybe I'm just more stubborn.

and for what it's worth, I'm sorry to have spoken that harshly to you too, I don't know who you are, but try not to hold those negative feelings so tight, that shit will seep into every other aspect of your life if you let it.

>>14009042

The fact that you'd even apologize when I came out swinging this hard proves you're probably not an asshole. When Term finally backstabs you, I'll genuinely feel bad. Until then I hope your stuff goes well, I'm pretty sure I know who I'm talking to right now and I'm excited for when you finally release that thing.

>>14009204

Is this loss?

>>13988735

>Princess Viscera Maelstorm

Now that's a little bundle of autism

>>14003800

Where do you post then?

On that note where do people that hate ZDoom forums post their ZDoom/GZDoom projects?

>>14010225

>On that note where do people that hate ZDoom forums post their ZDoom/GZDoom projects?

Either on the local /agdg/ thread, at /vm/ or /agdg/ board depending if its gonna be its own game or not. And this: http://8agdg.wikidot.com/

>>14007639

> I should be a little cautious

You are going to be fine if you keep to project and project-related threads, and do not pursue anydrama specifically, just like in any dedicated forums.

Don't let local faggotry dissuade you from publishing your work on the sites you want to.

Anyway - I'd suggest adding a few projector-like props around the pyramids to justify the bright looks.

>>14007666

Drifting away into less popular places is not going to undermine anyone but yourself, it just means that whatever you are doing is going to have tremendously less exposure to people who otherwise might be interestedin it. Remember - 90% of those who visit Doom sites are lurkers who are there only for the content and they don't care about any kind of underlying drama at all.

>>14007639

That skybox looks quite bad. Better to define them in GLDEFS or use an actual off-map room with a skybox viewpoint in the exact center. There are some properly projected skybox textures on OpenGameArt.org if you need that

>>14010225

I have accounts on those sites but mainly just lurk. I'm more active on half/fullchan. I post my projects occasionally on one or the other.

>>14008101

>I'll have that music stream set up again too.

Better be Christmas stuff.

>>14010225

>>14010440 is correct.

It's best to keep to project and project-related threads, don't drift into the off-topic sections.

>>14011979

Aren't Doom threads project related?

ZDF's Kate Fox is dead, in case anyone was wondering.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=58800

>>14013449

>another tranny

>Probably burned the house down as some insane suicide attempt

>all his projects were trash

L M A O

>>14013449

Sad, DoomRPG was good.

>>14013568

I believe that was primarily Kyle87whatever making that.

>>14013577

Right right.

>>14013486

You can always count on this place to keep things classy.

Can't imagine why half's /vr/ is under the impression we're a rancid shithole.

>>14013622

Cry moar for the attention whore dubsman. Also sage isn't a downvote.

>>14013622

Who cares what they think, this is 8chan not a fucking highschool

Besides shitting on suicided trannies is also an halfchan tradition see, Rachel Bryk

>>14013622

It's a rancid shithole to speak the truth? Kate obviously had some sort of psychological problem, and the retards on ZDoom forums (Especially his close friends Jimmy and BouncyTEM) decided instead of telling Kate to seek real psychiatric help, to enable the guy.

Guess that makes us all horrible people for suggesting that people actually get the help they actually need.

>>14015486

Talking it up like it's a suicide attempt and then saying their projects are all shit is in pretty bad taste for someone who just died in a fire though.

>>14015604

>Talking it up like it's a suicide attempt

Not going to lie, it sure sounds like one, and trans people are more likely to do crazy things like this. If it walks like a duck. . .

>saying their projects are all shit is in pretty bad taste for someone who just died in a fire though.

What's wrong with having an opinion on someone's project? Dying doesn't mean you are automatically protected from people saying what you did wasn't their cup of tea. You're being over emotional.

>>14015741

It's not even being over emotional. It's common sense and common courtesy.

I mean you wouldn't go to someone's funeral and talk shit about the recently deceased would you?

>>14015757

This isn't a funeral.

>>14015797

It's still shit talking a dead person. The original point that other dude was bringing up was people thinking this place is a shithole, and I'd say shit talking about someone who just died is in pretty bad taste, regardless of their own problems.

But I know you're pretty set in your ways, so I'm dropping this.

>inb4 we all get bullied by tranny phantom and his new friend for shittalking them

>>14015807

>But I know you're pretty set in your ways, so I'm dropping this.

Of course you are.

>>14016554

That guy wanted to fuck her so badly and it shows. I never liked Kate using dropbox so she can suck my ghost dick in hell.

>>14016926

Or in other words trannies duping thisty beta males into giving them attention and putting them on a pedestal. Sad.

>>14016554

This is funny on so many levels. The voice joke, helium suicide jokes, the general cringiness of the whole thing, the virtue signalling, everything. You really cannot make this shit up, as you said.

>>14017209

Is that what the helium thing is, a suicide joke?

>>14017278

I think it was originally a joke about Kate's voice, as shown here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToxCauCn9Sc, however plenty of people use helium "exit bags" to die painlessly.

>>14017424

He sounds like he's doing a Mickey Mouse impersonation, and nervously laughing like a mental patient while killing those chickens. I'm genuinely terrified.