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>>424413

Vampires don't exist and have dozens of different cultural interpretations.

Are there any rulesets, homebrew or otherwise, for expanding a town and growing a city over time?

>>424427

Pathfinder's kingdom building rules. They were originally in Kingmaker, then revised in Ultimate Campaign

>>424413

To my knowledge, the lore of vamps not having reflections comes from the fact that mirrors used to be plated with silver, and silver was said to be harmful to vampires. However, I don't recall anything specific about them not having shadows.

>>424437

I thought the whole "vamps don't have reflections" thing was meant to be a metaphor for how they lost their humanity and their capacity for self-reflection. Something about being unable to know yourself anymore, I think. It helps that it's just plain spooky.

>>424451

Early myths of monsters insisted that they were all wounded by silver and prayer. Vampires also had a bunch of really silly rules attached to them, like needing to be invited in, not being able to cross running water, and having an uncontrollable compulsive need to stop and count piles of grain or salt.

>>424453

Or rice, if you're in China, for some godforsaken reason.

>>424455

From what I recall the chi vampires of china, all hopping and such, were a joke about bureaucrats. It was originally coins one was to throw on the ground, as the vampire just had to stop and count it all. Rice, being of mininum value and much more numerous increased the comedy of the tale.

>>424458

Wll, yeah. Jews drink the blood of infants, love precious metals and stone, the truth hurts them, they lie, steal, cheat and backstab, and they are ugly. Nazis used to call jews vampires in some of their propaganda.

Anyone ever played pulp call of cthulhu before? Going to be playing a game soon and wanted some tips.

What is everyone preferred method of creating a country's hex map? Do people use programs, tile over something they draw, or do they not bother with an overworld map and just bullshit it?

>>424489

I use photoshop.

>>424495

Next question, is photoshop hard to learn?

>>424507

Not him but I've been using it for 8, 10 years? I still don't know all the features and I use it in my own way. No matter how you slice it, PS is terrible for animation, and CS6 is the last version before their cancerous software-as-a-service rollout.

Mostly, it's just learning how to do things "the photoshop way" (eg layers, masking etc) and learning the hotkeys.

Did anyone try Greenstuff World's colorchanging paint? I've seen in a tutorial you should imprint the picture in black before using that paint, but I wonder how would it look using different colors.

>>424489

Hex paper, by hand.

I want to use golems and other constructs in my campaign but I don't want to use that kike word. Any alternatives?

>>424594

Constructs.

>>424582

I'm also interested in good alternative tabletop tools. Especially because I'm thinking about making a tv board table.

>>424594

Goylem detected.

>>424594

automatons, constructs,

>>424582

As an addendum, if anyone can get their hands on a functional copy of Foundry VTT, I will be eternally grateful. That shit looks amazing.

Newb questions for a mix of 3.5 and Pathfinder, Not sure I've read all the relevant rules / interpreted them correctly

1.

Magic Stone cleric spell (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/magicStone.htm). Does the user have to fling each one separately, or can he just chuck all 3 as one handful at enemy?

If these are used with a sling, do the sling's strength and any magic bonuses stack?

If a 14 strength PC launched them from a sling, that would be 1d6+3? if it was a Magic Sling +1, 1d6+4?

2.

Pathfinder spell - Ice Armor. It's described as having 0 hardness, meaning that any strike that lands on it should be chipping away at its HP. My understanding of the rules is that the only way armor is considered to actually get hit in combat is if someone uses Sunder and specifically aims at it - low level mooks are unlikely to have the feat that would let them do that without provoking AoO?

Reasonable to suspect that a roleplaying DM wouldn't have CR1 or lower trash mobs guess that they can easily disable PC's magic Ice armor and decide to intentionally sunder it?

3.

Tactics with Long Spear normal sized opponents:

(a) given space PC can keep making use of 5 foot step to put distance between himself and a target that closed in, getting to attack each turn

(b) PC likely won't get AoO vs. an opponent that starts their turn 10 feet away (2nd square away from PC) because said opponent will also likely use 5-foot-step to close the distance.

(c) any enemy that starts their turn more then 2 squares away, can't approach and attack PC without proving an AoO once they try to move from 10foot distance to 5 foot distance

(d) Given open-field battle of 1 PC against 2 melee enemies with same speed, it should be possible to even out ratio of PC attacks vs. enemy attacks by using Full Withdraw.

Sequence envisioned, given that all 3 start standing next to each other:

Turn 1 PC uses FW to move max distance away from both - though really he only needs to be 6 squares away from both to prevent them being able to close in and attack in 1 turn.

Turn 1 Enemies - chasing both move actions just keep provoking AoOs without them actually getting to attack. If they don't have range weapons, they are best served by moving to distance of 4sq away from him so that their next turn they can close distance and attack.

Turn 2: PC moves to either side of the pair positioning so that closest of them is 2 squares away, furthest is 3 squares. Closest of them gets attacked on PC's round.

Turn 2: enemies, closest one can 5-foot-step and get to attack PC. Further one has to move at least 2 squares to close into melee range so he provokes. He can however try to use the full range of his one movement action to get around PC - but no matter where he positions himself, PC still has a way to move out without provoking using FW.

Turn 3 - sequence restarts.

(normally though battle would start with them being at a greater distance from each other, which would be equivalent to starting the sequence at Turn 2 point)

In a 2 vs 1 fight this should let PC trade an even number of attacks with 2 enemies, essentially getting First Strike vs. each opponent. If there are 3+ enemies, PC gets surrounded and completely fucked if he tries this.

Have I misunderstood any rules as to how combat works that would screw up the above tactic?

>>424607

1.

I am not entirely familiar with 3.5e, but this spell seems to imply you would fling one stone at a time. Strength bonus and magic bonuses do stack, though afaik the magic bonus on the bullet and sling would not.

A PC with 14 strength would do 1d6+3 dmg, but the sling would have to be +2 to get 1d6+4 dmg

2.

Armor is generally only damaged by the sunder maneuver, yes. Thing about combat maneuvers is that they provoke an attack of opportunity unless the person doing the CMB has Improved X, Improved Sunder in this case, which you prob won't be running into at level 1.

Additionally, you can argue that by RAW the mook in question would need to make a spellcraft check to recognize the spell as Ice Armor to begin with, so they wouldn't necessarily know the armor can be easily broken.

3.

Your way of going about the combat with the longspear is correct, however it is also possible to make an acrobatics check as a move action to move half speed without provoking attacks of opportunity. This way you can attack or cast spells and still move, but the enemy would also be able to move in, tank the AoO, and hit you, so be advised.

>>424610

thanks for clarifying.

on another note - Craft(Alchemy) in Pathfinder and 3.5 - Does having ranks in skill presume knowledge of all the recipes, or are they something like wizard spells that PCs would normally have to find along their travels?

Im looking for a game thats basically call of cthulhu but without the cthulhu stuff and modern day more or less. Any games like that? Something where you just play a paranormal investigator.

>>424696

Delta Green?

It's been pozzed recently with orange man bad

Gurps mysteries?

>>424703

Not exactly what im looking for.

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>>424711

It's all so tiresome.

>>424711

Oh fuck nigger, you made me think the whole site was getting taken out. Is it just the lolis? That sucks, but holy shit you scared me.

>>424720

At worst, it will last until November, and at best until 2020. Hurry up and archive your shit and tell others

>>424722

>Being a victim of censorship

>>424726

Im looking for something a little more grounded in reality as dumb as that sounds. Ive heard about chill. Is that any good?

>>424725

>breaking stupid laws instead of fighting them

>>424711

I hope the sysadmin mirrors the entire database. Come to think, this is exactly what happened to the original nyaa.

>>424734

Ill take a look at those but i pretty much just want a game where you investigate paranormal phenomenon based around things that are possibly real in real life, eg ghosts, wendigo, flatwoods monster, demons, and so on. Things like that rather than completely fictional creatures.

>>425010

Listen to some old detective radioplays on archive.org

https://archive.org/details/oldtimeradio

So what's a Paladin supposed to do once they run out of spell slots? Everywhere I go, people insist Paladins are bullshit and one of the strongest classes in the game, but considering they are half casters without access to cantrips, they will run out of spell slots pretty quickly at low levels. In addition, pretty much everything they have requires concentration (even stuff that shouldn't require concentration, like non-Divine smites), and everything that doesn't require concentration is extremely situational (like Command or the absolutely useless "broken by all" Compelled Duel, which also requires concentration), so spell slots are only good for Divine Smite. If you use the "four combats before long rest" guideline, Paladins basically have to save all their spell slots to nuke the boss of the day, which means they are basic attack mashers for all other combats. Sure, they have a high burst potential with Divine Smite, but so do a lot of other classes, even in AoE. The only good thing about Paladins is their auras, and even then, only some of their auras are decent. They are also not specially tankier than other classes, considering the way 5e handles AC and HP (in fact, rogues are tankier due to Uncanny Dodge, and only have 1 HP less per level and potentially the same AC with a feat; what the fuck?). Paladins are also the only class subject to a set of guidelines that can make them lose ALL of their powers. All in all, they look like shittier versions of clerics.

So, what the fuck is so good and broken about Paladins? All I see is the potential to burst some specific bosses to 0 HP in two turns, if you had done nothing the rest of the day, but so can every other spellcaster. In 5e, in addition, Cantrips allow them to keep a close DPT to martial classes (near identical DPT if you are a Cleric of Light), but at a range of 60 ft, which is invaluable when facing ultra high damage bosses that can't be melee'd, like the Gibbering Mouther. Is there something I am missing about Paladins, other than the Oath of the Ancients level 7 aura? I can only imagine other groups may not be following the 4 combats a day guideline, or simply not following the rules, because otherwise, Paladins seem fairly standard without multiclassing.

>>425093

Paladins have been shitty clerics ever since they weren't a super special snowflake class for guys who "rolled" really well.

>>425094

Then why in the hell do people insist Paladins are super tough and super supporty in 5e, when they only get a slightly better smite? Fuck, I wonder why people do people always become completely blind and dumb when it comes to being critical of D&D.

>>425095

Because 60% of people don't know how to play the game and 30% barely understand the rules. 5% just ape what they see other people do on the internet and 4% kind of understand the underlying principles of game mechanics. Only 1% of players or GMs actually know what the hell they're talking about and can back it up.

Is there a master list of D&D 3.5 cheese builds anywhere? I need to prove to someone for once and for all that 3.5 is the most busted edition in existence.

>>425121

Just fucking google it, you don't need a master list because the game is legendarily fucking busted and if your idiot friend doesn't know that, then he's either obtuse or willfully ignorant. That's one of the first things anybody learns about D&D 3.5 - you can tear the game wide open right away and that's BEFORE you get into expanded material. Stop talking to whoever you're talking to./

>>425132

Don't go learn fucking normie stuff on roll20 or some shit.

>>425133

No I want to know if running a game is feasible using the built in dice.

>>425134

Yes, you could run a game using the post numbers in the corner even without that but you still should not because people need to learn normie tier stuff before aspiertier

Alright then what is a good D&D edition to start with?

>>424406

I know that alignment is a controversial topic but it doesn't seem like a particularly hard concept to grasp. Yes, WotC gave up on it and oversimplified its explanation. However, reading Gygax's explanation of the alignments and reading about the Pantheon of the setting with their alignments made it pretty easy to understand. Ignoring the application to PCs, alignment seems like a very helpful tool for creating NPCs yet the mechanic is often demonized as outdated.

On that note, are Communists Chaotic aligned? They are actively pushing for the collapse of society in favor a theoretical society that is unsustainable and goes against human nature. I would go as far say they are CE.

>>425143

Well, trying to apply the 9-point moral compass to a political ideology shows up pretty well why it's not a good idea. You could just as easily call communists Lawful Evil, because they're trying to impose strict laws on the populace, or Neutral Evil, because they all think they're going to be the commissar and that's a good place to be. Someone so inclined could even put them on the Good end because they're obsessed with righting social injustices.

The Chaotic-Lawful/Good-Evil matrix only works on individuals, or races that the GM (or fantasy tradition) has designated as "kill these ones" or "don't kill these ones". It's there to facilitate the Sword of Orc Whacking doing +2 damage against Evil, not as shorthand for actual morality. Trying to apply it to more nuanced villains than necromancers laughing maniacally as they tear the hearts out of infants is just asking for arguments at the table.

>>425155

>You could just as easily call communists Lawful Evil, because they're trying to impose strict laws on the populace,

LE are mostly rooted in traditions, culture, or a perceived social hierarchy. Forcing people to whatever you say isn't exclusive to the Law alignment.

>or Neutral Evil, because they all think they're going to be the commissar and that's a good place to be.

Yet they chose to be a commie instead of a crime lord.

>Someone so inclined could even put them on the Good end because they're obsessed with righting social injustices.

That is called ignorance and naivety but there are limits before it becomes willful ignorance.

>The Chaotic-Lawful/Good-Evil matrix only works on individuals, or races that the GM (or fantasy tradition) has designated as "kill these ones" or "don't kill these ones".

Yes, I'm treating communists as a faction rather than just ideology.

>not as shorthand for actual morality. Trying to apply it to more nuanced villains than necromancers laughing maniacally as they tear the hearts out of infants is just asking for arguments at the table.

Whether they view themselves as good or bad doesn't matter. Not every action needs to be motivated by those two words. Is someone technically evil if he only became because he drew the Balance card? It is just a shorthand. All Liches are Evil aligned. Vampires are generally Lawful Evil.

>>425155

This. I've had the same discussion in my head about alignments not being applicable to real world ideologies, and communism especially being problematic. Especially since the main stream kosher textbook alignment of Nazis would be Lawful Evil, how would commies' alignment differ from it?

>>425165

>LE are mostly rooted in traditions, culture, or a perceived social hierarchy. Forcing people to whatever you say isn't exclusive to the Law alignment.

Commies have a social hierarchy, and nowadays as communism is over 100 years old, they even have a tradition with heroes like Lenin, Mao, etc. They have a cultural doctrine of oppressors and the oppressed. Maybe on larger scale you could call them chaotic though, since communism tends to lead eventually to chaos, and communists get power by subverting already existing nations. Their doctrines too tend to be contradictory, i.e. chaotic, so I suppose there is some logic to your claim that commies are chaotic. Still I think it gets a bit too complicated and contrived to try to force D&D alignments on communism.

Are planning on running a game with communists as the bad guys, or is this merely an academic excercise?

>Yet they chose to be a commie instead of a crime lord.

Not an argument. Generally ruling a communist nation gives you more power than being a crime lord, and of course it depends on your opportunities. Certain circumstances lead to different outcomes and professions.

>>425166

Chaos Cultists in 40k have been around for a long time too, but that doesn't mean that the traditions and social hierarchy they have established makes them Lawful Evil, by D&D's wonky alignment standards.

>>425166

>Are planning on running a game with communists as the bad guys, or is this merely an academic excercise?

I'm just organizing my thoughts. I wanted to do some writing to help me cope with this depressing boredom. It is a theoretical faction in a most likely not to be finished story. I plan on using "allegories".

Part of it was humoring a funny idea that I had about historical figures as "Heroic Spirits". I thought about it and wondered "Is there anyone important that was too much of a dick to be even given the 'cautionary tale' exception?". The Nazi were involved in the 3rd Holy Grail War so I didn't want to think about Hitler. Then there is Karl Marx. He can't be a Heroic Spirit because he is a net negative to the world and he can't be turned into an "Anti-Hero" because some people still idolize him. However using a similar exception as Angra Mainyu and Assassin, a wraith representing an exaggerated embodiment of the evils of Marxism became an Avenger class servant. Also, Pinochet is a Rider class because free helicopter rides.

>Maybe on larger scale you could call them chaotic though, since communism tends to lead eventually to chaos, and communists get power by subverting already existing nations. Their doctrines too tend to be contradictory, i.e. chaotic, so I suppose there is some logic to your claim that commies are chaotic. Still I think it gets a bit too complicated and contrived to try to force D&D alignments on communism.

That is the general idea that I was trying to convey. I just see them similarly to a cult.

What's a good game for emulating the type of adventures you might see in a fairy tale or folk tale?

Something with an emphasis on characters, people, and their interactions with the unknown. I understand that you can theoretically use any fantasy system to achieve this by keeping characters at low levels and limiting the scope of the adventure, but I would like a level-less system that outright encourages this. This way everything's kept on a less grand scale and one can focus on the story instead of looking for the next big stack of XP.

>>425212

Is the faggot that wrote that tl;dr shit aware that 3.5 Fighters/Barbarians could simply one shot a wizard simply by taking the initiative?

>>425166

>how would commies' alignment differ from it?

That's the funny ting with marxism. It combines the worst elements from all alignments.

>>425155

Surprisingly communists also did necromancy.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/178493?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

>>425237

Why is the Fighter/Barbarian rolling for initiative anyway? How did he even get in here without getting gangraped by 30 Balors or all the permanent magical traps? Have you ever played over level 6?

>>425212

The rules cyclopedia is not OD&D, its a conpiled mentzer basic D&D. OD&D is its own thing. The three brown books and its suppliments.

>>425252

>implying summons weren't completely useless

>>425265

>I have no idea what a spellcaster can actually summon and/or bind

Just stop now before you make yourself look even more foolish.

>>425237

How did you even get into the same plane as me, asshole?

>>425290

I am next to the P'sHB and the MM, faggot, make my fucking day!

>>425305

Well, I hope you've got a good Will save and can resist the temptations of a wily disguised succubus. A 21 is rough, but not too bad to pass. You might have some magic items that boost your saves, so out come the pixies to spam Dispel Magic on all your shit. If I wanted to be a real asshole, I'd call up an Efreeti and make a Wish that your mother died from AIDS before you were ever born - that one might fuck me over, but at least you would have never existed. If I'm in a good mood and I want to watch you put up a fight, I'd summon a Bebilith to web, grapple, and poison you until you shit blood out of the holes where your eye sockets used to be.

What are you gonna do about it, faggot? Hit me real hard?

>>425143

>On that note, are Communists Chaotic aligned?

The answer to this is: It depends.

Moorcock gets brought up more, but the stronger influence in early D&D is in some way closer to the Anderson proposal, and then heavily modified with Tolkienisms. The conflict of Law vs. Chaos, as proposed with Anderson, is different in different worlds. In the "magical" world with elves and shit, Law is represented by human civilization, while Chaos is represented by fae creatures. On the other hand, in the "mundane" world, there are no tangible, magical forces of Chaos - just people.

The meaning: In his journey to another realm, Holger Carlson battles the forces of Chaos by fighting off an actual army with a magic sword. In the "normal" world, he fights off a single ambush. Huge gap, but both pivotal in turning the tides. The Nazis are portrayed as Chaotic in Arneson - whereas almost everywhere else declares them to be Lawful Evil - because the aggressive expansion across Europe and destabilization of the world system is Chaotic. But they're not the only force of Chaos - just the strongest at the time. The slowly growing USSR is the next step. In more subtle forms, Chaos is spread everywhere in the world, slowly eating away and decaying society. In short, Lawful is 1950s Anglo-American neoliberalism (capitalism, democracy, civil rights, etc.) as well as its monarchist predecessors, while Chaotic is everything else.

>>425213

Look up Beyond the Wall; it does a lot of the thing you're looking for. It is, however, a standard class and level system (though the game playbooks encourage you to mix-and-match classes to fit certain character concepts, within reason).

>>425212

>>425139

Short Answer: B/X, RC, or a retro-clone.

Long Answer:

1E AD&D DMG is a must-have for any edition of D&D.

4E is a tactical skirmishing game. It is not D&D, and should not be used to play D&D with (not that you can't, but that there's no point). But it is a good skirmishing game.

3E is a character creation system released for use with Microsoft Excel. You can optionally use it to try and run D&D games, but for actually playing games, it's a strictly inferior option.

5E is a compilation of 3E and 4E rules and a few new adjustments, and informed a bit by older D&D, in an attempt to create a system for playing D&D. It has bits of character building (but is worse at it than 3E), tactical skirmishing (but is worth than it than 4E), and actual role-playing (but is worse at it than D&D). It is the current edition, and thus popular, but there is nothing 5E does that another system is not strictly better at.

2E is a cleaned up 1E, and 1E is OD&D with a bunch of useless rules Gygax never actually used, and some that he regretted even making, which was put together for the sole purpose of tournament standardization. These can be used to play D&D, but I recommend just reading the 1E DMG and using it with something else.

B/X or BECMI (Rules Cyclopedia) are ones you're going to see recommended a lot. B/X is probably the closest to "best" for people new to things. ACKS, a modern OSR system, is probably the best "fork" of B/X that you can run, as it incorporates tasteful bits of character customization (though a bit more than I prefer) as well as having good end-campaign content. This is all good introductory stuff to get to play the game. These are all good D&D editions to start with.

OD&D is D&D. It is also a bit of a mess. Delving Deeper is a decent retro-clone, but does some strange things. 7 Voyages is a very flavorful retro-clone that diverges a bit, but does so in a good way. You can run OD&D straight as-is, and this is very fun - but you need to be very good at making stuff up on the fly. It's generally better to not think of OD&D as a complete game, but rather as a template from which you'll diverge and create your own campaign. If you take this route, you'll want to also talk with other people, ask questions, and look up some of the OSR primers. This is the first and final form of playing D&D.

Like 6 months ago, there was a resource online, with every single monster from every single official book/monster manual/supplement for AD&D 2ed. It was very handy, and I used it. And, like a fucking idiot, I didn't find a way to download it. I assumed since it's AD&D 2ed, it's pretty much safe, since nobody cares about it.

Obviously, I was wrong, and it is now gone. Hasbro lawyers? Owner getting bored? Technical issues? No clue. The closest thing I found is some .narod.ru site that spams ads, and only has monsters from the Monstrous Manual.

Asking for an off chance that someone had it stored.

>>425588

Are you talking about Lomion? You can still access it through the Wayback machine. I think the owner probably just pulled the plug after having the website open for like 20 years.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180818101532/http://lomion.de/cmm/_contents.php

So, I suck at making maps and I have troubles coming up with the design of the map of a mansion from Spain in the postwar 50s, mostly because I don't know how a village and a mansion should be structured like.

Could you help me? google isn't helping much.

I've never played a tabletop RPG before, but I'm really wanting to. I don't have any IRL friends that would be interested or have any experience doing it, and I don't want to drive into town to find play in person with neckbeards.

Is there a viable way to find a group to play with online as a /tg/-virgin without going to reddit?

Other than Dark Sun's Kalidnay, are there any official examples of a Demiplane of Dread's remains on their original plane?

>>424413

>>424417

What would be a reasonable explanation of a physical object not throwing a shadow?

>>425814

It's actively emitting light that's precisely tuned to eliminate any shadows it's casting.

Or it's just perfectly transparent and invisible, and somehow inserting a similarly-shaped substitute image into the perception of any observers.

Does the Imperium of Man have any UAVs to go with their artillery?

>>425880

What's wrong with this place, why switch to some shady one?

>>425889

>>425880

Nevermind, I wasn't aware what whas happening for the past few months. My bad.

>>424736

Aside of >>424740 there was "Dangerous Times: Muckrakers and Magic in old New York"

I finally found you and I feel stupid because It seems like the site has been on for a few months already.

Anyway I'm glad to see you all again.

>>425900

Oh...

>>425874

Maybe would be better in 40k thread.

Short answer: it depends on what you would consider:

"unmanned" (servitor pilots are used),

"aerial" (small stuff with very modest speed and altitude is abound, some with weapon and sensor packages, see servoskulls and firewasp) and

"vehicle" (cyberconstructs like grapplehawk are known, as well as cyborgized critters).

A techpriest can remotely control constructs and servitors like his own body, but electronic warfare is bad for broadband connections, so it's not very useful on battlefields.

What could swap dwelling lizardfolk export that humans would want?

>>426010

Bog iron, gator jerky/meat, old sarrukh/old one artefacts, domesticated hydra, (food source, dragon bait, possible army maker) various toxins and venoms, passage through their territories, guides for the lay of the land, darktentacles (a reviewed shop in the realms has one in a basket in a store). Shed lizard skins (spell components) bottled firefles. Also, possibly song and dance- if the local regions religion is reciprocated through vigilance of an active Coatual in the region. Shamanistic nick-knacks, wood carvings, minor magical items made with ease because tribal magics, and mud golems (which are a thing, but obscure) and of course, ecology dependant herbs for use in alchemy, and healing; bloodroot- which is basically ginger, but a narcotic for vampires if they ingest it, possibly having other properties.

And according to a quick google search for 'swamp exports'- animal skins & logging. As they're lizard man and have affinity with reptiles, they can easily make certain hide armours others cannot, and they may/may not have trade relations with Yuan-ti. But asides from that, here's some of the reddit posts which I snagged.

>It is a seasonal swamp? Do due rainfall do the flood plains rise and fall? Cypress trees, poisons and medicines, Catfish which can grow to enormous sizes making both a casual as well as sport hunting game. Aligators if the water gets warm enough, Salt farms if the sea is close and the high and low tides are extreme enough and during the correct season and alignment of the sun and moon.

Then the fishing is of a totally different type as the salient levels from the river become flush with all the salt from the ocean.

Salt is super valuable in any D&D based setting- it's the meat of most spellcasting endeavours in crafting and conjuration- at least until you need things like bone dust, if you were say, planning on conjuring Demogoron up. Swamps also are the habitat of black dragons, aka PC's first dragon kill & potential boss fights, and the mention of catfish has me thinking of slaver-caste Aboleth & their Skum.

>Almost certainly reeds, which can be woven into all kinds of light-weight things, hats, baskets, etc. Not a high price export, but they have an unlimited supply. And if they have the right kind of reeds, they can make paper, which is way more cost effective then vellum.

>Alligator skin! Lots of fish. Bark, leaves, roots, sap, fruits and flowers of swamp trees. Fungi. Snails and shellfish. Rubber. Certain trees might be especially weather resistant or good for shipbuilding. Stylish haircuts. Swamp wine. Honey. Bird feathers. Arboreal birds and mammals that are considered delicacies. Clay. Synergy.

Fungi is good, it always offers open use of myconid/mushroom species to a setting, and they, never get enough love outside of the say, the underdark. Shellfish equal chuul, and there's possibly a slave-trade behind that. Clay has shittons of uses, but I'll just mention golems and figurines for now.

Peat, Pitch & coal, Rice and SUGAR, and natural gases, some magical- there's probably been a few of these in D&D for swamps/wetlands

Now, how much the lizardmen make use of is up for debate, as in terms of D&D, they went from big-brain wizard-lizards who could just pull crap outta the weave at whim, building awesome lava-running strongholds with unique golems, enslavement of dragonkind, statis pods, and a few other neat things, to swamp-dwellers under the thrall of a ruling force, like a black dragon.

As for active regional powers/monsters well, there may be blighters about, and hags, but as it's D&D, we've got giant amphibians, spawn of juiblex, contents from the demiplane of filth, leftover temples to aztec murder gods, the old ones, yuan-ti stronghold/nests, coatual temples, black dragons, a small druid circle, a necromancer, oozes, trolls, maybe a reclusive wizard in a sunken tower, clay, bog or swamp mummies, werealigators/crocodiles, bet your ass a few ghouls, stirges, probably a cancer mage bcause Mosquito-AIDS, Will'o wisps, snakes, leeches and possibly Kyuss spawn, troglodytes/mutated hilbilly people.

>>426011

Thanks.

My idea was a Black Dragon and the kingdom that surrounds the swamp have begrudgingly made some kind of peace: The dragon realizes it's fucked as soon as it leave the cover the swampland yet the swamp is too much of a bog for the kingdom to invade or destroy. The dragon is officially deemed Count of the swamp and gets to sleep while its lizardmen serfs do the work and earn it a tidy bed of gold.

>>426012

3.5 Monster manual IV or V has lizardman.black dragon hybrids? I think? I've forgotten. I will note that I recall one of the NWN1 modules, possibly darkness over dggerford having a lizrdman village patron to a black. I also have a variant rule for blackdragon swamp concealment from 3.5, I'll post it later.

Is there a reason why the mtg thread isn't bumping properly?

>>426015

First guess is because it's over the bump limit. Second is that this place is broken as hell and it's a waste of time to be here and not on the bunker.

>>425814

Soul is a requirement for a shadow being cast.

Good option for cheap models of generic fantasy females of decent quality? All the cheap models I know about are historical wargaming ones.