No.9913[Last 50 Posts]
Am I the only one who VASTLY prefers the prequel era to the original trilogy era? There's so many intriguing stories, characters and concepts in there, the movie execution may have been a bit shoddy but when you include all the EU material, it's really fucking deep. Creeping corruption of the Republic, incredibly awesome antagonists, a surprisingly non-simplistic war fought by expendable biological/mechanical machines and the ethics of doing so, etc.
Meanwhile, I look at the OT and I am bored to death. I actually saw them first, before the prequels even came out and even with the EU material, it's just…so fucking boring. Luke may as well be a cipher, Leia veers between annoying and pointless and Han is a fun archetype, I guess, but he never actually grows out of it or shows depth beyond it. Darth Vader is only really entertaining in the first movie and Sidious was much more compelling in the prequels.
It doesn't help that EU writers seem shackled for creativity when it came to that era and when they did manage to push the boundaries, we got shitfests like the Yuuzhan Vong and Waru.
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No.9914
Personally, I do prefer that era. Granted I grew up with that era so maybe that's why. I guess I like it better because of all the political complexities and morality you could get into that era while with OT it was mainly black and white.
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No.9917
>3rd pic
Is that game any good?
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No.9918
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No.9919
>>9918
so that's a no then
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No.9922
I like the prequel era for the world building, the politics, etc.
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No.9929
>>9913
I always would have wanted to expand on the times around the Stark Hyperspace War of 100BBY or so. Kind of the Pax Romana of the Republic, seeing challengers approaching the failings of that style of governance. But I would have my characters view it from afar and simply be average people doing menial work in a fantastic galaxy. Of course this is all dead now, thanks to the Disney buyout.
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No.9930
>>9918
Wasn't that one the ASSFAGGOTS?
I know, I know, it's all mobile trash anyway.
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No.9932
What would George say about the EU?
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No.9934
>>9932
Mostly ignore it until Anakin Solo triggers his autism. Also, they apparently need his permission before killing off major OT characters. The story goes that the Vong writers wanted to be taken more seriously, so they sent a list of main characters they wanted to kill off. Lucas responded with a list of characters they weren't allowed to kill off. Chewbacca was on the first list, but not the second.
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No.9935
I prefer the Empire era better, mostly die to their aesthetics and ethos.
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No.9936
>>9934
I get the Anakin Solo thing. He was doing the prequels and they had a character with the same name being given a prophecy.
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No.9937
>>9913
The fact Clone Wars being this one off line Obi-Wan says is always funny to me. Prequel Era becomes vastly superior with the video games,books, and comics.
Design is king and both the CIS and Republic had solid looking soldiers and war machines. Rebels never had a set theme and mon calamri ships are ugly as fuck
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No.9948
You're not the only one. When I've gone back and watched all six films as an adult, I've consistently found the prequels to be more engaging than the OT (with the possible exception of ANH). I think part of it is that, despite their flawed execution, I just see so much more ambition in the PT than the OT. I have a stronger appreciation for what the prequels tried to do than I have for what the OT succeeded in doing. The world they present just has so much more depth and complexity and interesting nooks and crannies to explore. They also provided a backdrop and springboard for a ton of absolutely excellent EU material.
I will say though that I'm not prepared to declare the PT as being objectively good. I think there's a real possibility that I just function on roughly the same wavelength of autism as George Lucas.
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No.9949
Actually yes, the last decades of the Republic were more interesting since the Empire reign was mostly uneventful. It ruled the galaxy. Period. The rebellion was until Yavin a nuisance at best.
But i would really want to see the SW ripoff of W40K, the Pius Dea era. No jedi, no sith, only human zealots purging hutts.
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No.9955
>>9913
>Am I the only one who VASTLY prefers the prequel era to the original trilogy era?
Of course not. There were plenty who loved the prequel era, specifically its spinoff material. And there were those who loved the Old Republic era stories.
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No.9963
>>9913
I'm pretty sure even those who shit on the Prequels agree that it was a much more interesting era.
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No.9966
I don't know if I'd say I VASTLY prefer it, both ABY and BBY have really good stories and the potential for interesting political situations. It's definitely criminally underrated compared to the OT, though. Normies REEEing about "muh interstellar politics is boring" don't know what they're missing.
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No.9992
>>9918
force arena is the mobile moba game, not a card game. it technically has cards in it but it's not really a card game.
>>9934
this got debunked in another thread.
>>9966
what's so interesting about the ST? all they did was cut n paste post-WW1 germany into the original trilogy.
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No.9997
>>9992
>this got debunked in another thread.
Which part, Anakin or Chewbacca's death? I know the bit about Solo doesn't have a confirmed source, and as such is a bit apocryphal.
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No.9998
>>9992
>ST
I'm afraid I'm not sure what you're trying to say. "Stormtrooper" is the only meaning I know for ST in a Star Wars context.
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No.10099
The Juggernaut is a smarter idea than the AT AT
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No.10101
>>10099
Aye. Shit like AT-STs make some amount of sense in a heavily-wooded area, or some other region covered in debris, but in 90% of scenarios wheels are superior.
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No.10102
>>10101
When it comes down to it, if you need something to go through the woods, with a narrow enough profile that you won't be caught between or have to bring down trees, the AT-RT is really all that's needed. I feel like that AT-ST's ideal niche is really more like a sentinel role, something to patrol the flattened outskirts of a base, a mobile turret basically.
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No.10104
>>10101
AT-TE is also superior as well it can scale mountains,provide artillery, Transport troops/AT-RTs, and not to mention Transport gunships being made for them.
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No.10106
>>10104
Truth, and with those short legs it's got a reasonable CoM compared to the AT-AT. I didn't think about it as much before but Republic-era design was just so much better. I also think the concept of hyperspace rings for small and maneuverable fighters is critically underrated.
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No.10599
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> I hate the meme hate that RLM created. just some click bait BS that recruited mindless followers into spread a hateful and unjustified meme that the prequels are the worst thing in history. the prequels used to be widely loved. they made a ton of money at the box office. made even more on vhs/dvd/blu ray. got a ton of positive reviews. you can even see the slide by taking the rotten tomato pages and putting them in the internet archive's wayback machine and looking at how they used to be viewed and how the scores dropped after RLM's videos and the hate meme. the scores, especially the audience score, dropped as much as 20 points from their pre-rlm days.
>its just so sad, especially since alot of the complaints are bullshit. the "all cgi" one especially. MOST of the effects in the prequels were practical/models. the landscapes/cityscapes, the ships, the sets. there is more CGI in ep 7 and rouge one then all the prequels combined. but this BS notion they were totally cgi still persists. even cinemasins hateful reviews parroted the lie and what made it worse is they did it on scenes where NOTHING in them was cgi. was alot of green screen used? yes, but so did the OT. having green screen does NOT mean it'll be replaced with CGI.
>and yes, midichlorians are NOT the force. they were NEVER the force. and never tried to "explain" it. midichlorians have been, and always will be, an arbitrary measuring tool the jedi used to categorize and label people. the jedi, as pointed out. were an arrogant bureaucracy that grew fat and lazy in their complacency. they thought they were the absolute rulers and the senate, etc had power because THEY allowed it. and to keep their power they kept a monopoly on "higher" people that were force sensitive. even going to so far as to keep a constantly updated list of force sensitive children and watching them until they could recruit them. and while some argue they actually kidnapped children, it was actually more like a rich schools sending scouts to recruit gifted students. they convinced the parents it wa in their child's best interest to join them so their power could be "controlled and guilded". all in an effort to make sure no one could rise up to challenge them. midichlorians were their way of gauging who was worthy of their teaching. they are attracted to the force, they don't create the force, much like maggots don't create rotting meat. in the end it was just a measuring tool, like SAT scores.
>overall i absolutely agree these films do not deserve the hate they get. not in the slightest. their effects, even today, are spectatular and its worth remembering that they were made during the early days of cgi use. Jar Jar was the first true CGI character. CGI creature had existed, but he was a main character with an important role in the film. and an early example of modern mo-cap. and ahmed best, the actor that was there in all of jar jar's shots, who performed everything jar jar did AND provided his voice, without him and jar jar, gollum and Caesar wouldn't exist.
I think I understand now why /sw/ utterly despises Mike Stoklasa.
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No.10601
>>10599
>and yes, midichlorians are NOT the force. they were NEVER the force. and never tried to "explain" it. midichlorians have been, and always will be, an arbitrary measuring tool the jedi used to categorize and label people. the jedi, as pointed out. were an arrogant bureaucracy that grew fat and lazy in their complacency. they thought they were the absolute rulers and the senate, etc had power because THEY allowed it. and to keep their power they kept a monopoly on "higher" people that were force sensitive. even going to so far as to keep a constantly updated list of force sensitive children and watching them until they could recruit them. and while some argue they actually kidnapped children, it was actually more like a rich schools sending scouts to recruit gifted students. they convinced the parents it wa in their child's best interest to join them so their power could be "controlled and guilded". all in an effort to make sure no one could rise up to challenge them. midichlorians were their way of gauging who was worthy of their teaching. they are attracted to the force, they don't create the force, much like maggots don't create rotting meat. in the end it was just a measuring tool, like SAT scores.
That's not what was in the movie. It's my head canon but it's still not what George wrote.
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No.10603
>>10601
Didn't it come up in some other official material, like TCW?
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No.10604
>>10601
>>10603
There have been a few instances, at various levels of canon. Grievous I believe got a blood transfusion from Sifo-Dyas but injecting midcholrians into his system didn't make him force-sensitive. In Darth Plagueis, you see the eponymous Sith noting on several occasions that some species were highly resistant to Force manipulation despite a low midichlorian count.
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No.10623
>>9913
>he never actually grows out of it or shows depth beyond it.
He did it in the Thrawn trilogy. There's actually an interview (I think the first issue of WEG's Adventure Journal) where Zahn notes Han is older and has a family and plenty of people he cares about so he should have grown out of it and he doesn't understand the complaints about it.
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No.10624
>>9913
Nice videogame screenshots, I have to say the prequels wouldn't have destroyed star wars if they were just EU and games.
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No.10626
Why do midichlorians get people so assblasted?
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No.10627
>>10599
>the prequels used to be widely loved
There was always a large group of people who disliked them, largely because of the flaws in the Anakin/Padme relationship.
Mike Stoklasa’s contribution was a codified and popular screed which was accepted as conclusively why the prequels were ‘bad’. The theories in it were the basis of the nuStar Wars trilogy. It was also probably a major factor in Lucas’s disillusionment which drove him to sell to Yidsney and give the money away afterward.
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No.10633
>>10626
Basically goes as "The Force stopped being a magical force field created by life and new age mumbo jumbo talk to something that could be measured by magical bacteria/mitochondria". Remember that Qui-Gon said that without midchlorians life could not exist, they wouldn't know the Force even less hear/channel it".
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No.10634
>>10627
To be fair the RLM criticism was basically what everyone talked about. Excessive CGI, wooden dialogue, wooden performance due actors stuck with green/blue screen ("Here's Natalie", a photo in a blue screen wall, as Terrence Stamp once said) bad romance, stupid Jar Jar gimmicks which doesn't fit the themes of the movie.
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No.10636
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No.10637
>>10636
One is young, hot and has a slave costume and her hair is clearly mimicking the Theelinian sense of style. The other is just a gay Mon Mothma.
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No.10663
>>10634
The only thing I ever heard anyone complain about was Jar Jar and the Anakin/Padme "romance" before Cucklasa's "review" but even then both of those are justified if you consider that Jar Jar was apparently originally supposed to be Yoda's Sith opposite and likely Darth Sidious' master and the goofy shtick was deliberate obfuscation and the Anakin/Padme dynamic is supposed to be dysfunctional in order for Anakin's fall to the Dark Side to work. The only problem there is that George didn't really bother fleshing out the reasons for why Padme would fall in love with Anakin.
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No.10664
>>10663
>>10663
>Jar Jar was apparently originally supposed to be Yoda's Sith opposite and likely Darth Sidious' master and the goofy shtick was deliberate obfuscation
Stop writing fan fiction. If that were true it would honestly be worse.
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No.10669
>>10663
>Jar Jar was apparently originally supposed to be Yoda's Sith opposite and likely Darth Sidious' master and the goofy shtick was deliberate obfuscation
Stop going to reddit son, you're starting to believe in the cringy memes they spout over there.
>George didn't really bother fleshing out the reasons for why Padme would fall in love with Anakin
He didn't have to, see >>5030. Women fall head over heels for competent warriors that are still awkward and innocent.
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No.10680
>>10636
>>one is a human whore for Jabba because most aliens have a fetish for humans because they're jealous of human greatness to their alien weakness
>>the nu one is supposed to be a high ranking member in a scummy resistance force
You know it actually makes sense why she wears her hair like a species-mixing prostitute now. Because that's what Rebels are.
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No.10681
>>10624
It probably might have done better characterization as well.
>>10636
>1st pic
The blue hair chick reminds me of those alternative girls from the late 90's and early 2000's that were cool and down to earth.
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No.10690
>>10681
You mean those punk rock girls?
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No.10692
>>10680
>unofficial commentary from the office of COMPNOR
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No.10698
>>10681
>>10690
> those alternative girls from the late 90's and early 2000's that were cool and down to earth
I miss that, I miss it so much I always loved the punk/goth aesthetic
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No.10729
>>9998
sequel trilogy genius, nobody refers to stormtroopers as STs
>>9997
anakin's death. the chewbacca thing was this: they were making the story and wanted to kill off a big name, george gave them a list of who they couldn't kill. chewbacca didn't make the list.
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No.10731
>>10729
I see. Pardon me for that, I was thrown off by your using "original trilogy" in that same sentence; referring to it twice like that seemed redundant so I assumed that wasn't to what you were referring.
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No.12411
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No.12490
>>10669
>Stop going to reddit son, you're starting to believe in the cringy memes they spout over there.
It was basically confirmed by Jar Jar's actor though.
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No.12492
>>12490
So basically that Robot Chicken sketch was right the whole time?
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No.12607
>>12492
It was apparently made with input from George Lucas too.
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No.12624
>>12492
>>12607
George did admit that Jar Jar was the "key to all of this". Although, it could mean that he was either going to be a secret sith apprentice, a very powerful yet simplistic force-sensitive who manipulated things due to visions he had, or something else. I doubt it'd be sith apprentice though, as George seems to have a preference for choosing really evil-looking designs for Sith, and aside from Jar Jar's eyes, nothing else really screams sith apprentice.
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No.12626
>>12624
George didn't "admit" Jar Jar was "the key to all this", it's an offhand statement he made during the production of episode 1 which he immediately clarified what he meant: Because he's a funnier character than we've had before. Don't take things out of context to make some bullshit headcanon.
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No.12653
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/BD-3000_luxury_droid/Legends
Reminder that the Prequel Era also had chrome fembots.
>Because of their intended market, BD-3000 models were priced expensively, at roughly 25,000 credits. Despite this price, sales were common, especially among the wealthy social "elite" of Coruscant who regarded the shiny droids as status symbols. Many Senators were known to use the personal luxury droids as office aides, sometimes even bringing them to social functions, such as performances at the Galaxies Opera House.
>The droids also found use in less-savory parts of society, where they functioned as escorts. Some were even fitted with fully-articulated lekku, capitalizing on the popularity of Twi'lek females.[3]
That's a master-servant fic waiting to happen.
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No.12657
>>12653
>fembots
Those were the days. Closest thing Disney did to that was some ugly bounty hunting femdroid with a bellybutton who rebelled against being a man's sex toy because she's strong and independent. Either way, I prefer the SN-series spa droid over the creepy Betty Bots.
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No.12659
>>12657
Oh? What made them different?
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No.12664
>>12659
A lot of things. Mainly, Spa Droids just do spa things like massages, bath setup and management and other relaxation protocols for humans and droids, and can probably be reprogrammed to give happy endings but that's probably not the default. Betty Droids though are designed specifically to be companions/lovers and are probably way better companions than the more limited AI of the Spa Droids thanks to their programming and human-like voice, but their designs are like creepy porcelain human-like dolls (same problem Scorpio had) that pretend they're realistic. The Spa Droids are not as humanoid (not as much as the Betty Droids anyway) but while still being clearly feminine and sensuous without having to border on uncanny valley (they're possibly based on the GG-series hospitality protocol droids who are quite similar and even have the same color scheme, but lack the shape of tits and asses). But overall, a spa droid with betty bot's AI that still retains its spa managing protocols would be one hell of a droid waifu. And with a GG-series droid's protocol communication skills, she'd be useful for work and traveling.
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No.12737
>>10601
>That's not what was in the movie. It's my head canon but it's still not what George wrote.
Yes it was. Go watch the scene again. Midichlorians are not the Force, but something in the DNA of certain lifeforms – Force sensitives – that allow them to connect to the Force and use it. In RotJ it is hinted that Force sensitivity is hereditary.
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No.12856
>>12737
>In RotJ it is hinted that Force sensitivity is hereditary.
Which made the Bene-Gesserit-knock-off Jedi Order of the prequels an even stupider idea. If they keep taking in every single Force-sensitive they can find and then completely forbid them from starting families and having kids, then how the fuck do they expect to find future Force-sensitives when their numbers start dwindling because the genes for it are being slowly eradicated from the galactic gene pool?
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No.12857
>>12856
The Force… finds a way. There is only 10k jedi in a galaxy of quintillions of quintillions. Force sensitives pooping by themselves isn't an issue.
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No.12861
>>12856
Just as Mace Windu and other Jedi with the proper restraint may practice Vaapad without falling to the dark side, there exist a select few Jedi that are able to flirt with the baser desires of the flesh without succumbing fully to its passion. The knowledge that such Jedi even exist is restricted to the Grand Master, and on select occasions, he tasks them to…extract their progenitive material and deliver it to sperm banks across the galaxy. In extremely rare, dire circumstances, the Grand Master may order one of these to go to selected benefactors directly, and manually inject the material.
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No.12907
>>12856
I always figured the Force works kinda like magic works in Harry Potter. Generally, it's hereditary, but not necessarily, and it's also something that can occur at random.
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No.12910
shame the films didn't start with epsisode II and give us more clone wars
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No.12911
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No.12923
>>12664
Oh I dunno, change up the faceplate, add some warm synthflesh padding like the Nanny droids, and your problem is mostly solved. Well, that and getting a pleasure center into the droid's brain and nervous system so you're not just screwing a pretty onahole, but that might just be me.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nanny_droid/Legends
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nanna
In case you forgot these existed. With the right reprogramming, you might get a good companion for a single dad and a decent mother figure for your kid(s) to boot*. Just look at that hourglass figure and those four arms.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/IM-6_battlefield_medical_droid
Meanwhile, you get these "friendly and eager" flying nurses for the Clones and maybe Stormies. I can see the jokes about these being the unit's repulsorbike: everyone gets a ride.
>ywn be the unit's techie, and prank the shiny lads by giving your Immy a sultry voice
>ywn larf your geriatric Clone sides out later at the war stories from your unit
>"I'd never been in such pain before…or been so aroused. Dammit, Gears, why'd you hafta do that???"
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No.12937
>>12923
>the four armed TDL Nanny droid
>with spa droid features and betty AI
Too perfect. But the nose always freaked me out a bit, but one in that pic actually has a nose that looks cute and perky.
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No.12954
>>12856
see >>12907
the force is both hereditary and a genetic lottery. a random person can be born with a stronger connection to the force, and children born from force users will undoubtedly be strong in the force as well. also the jedi order took in plenty of people that were born to non-sensitive parents.
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No.13398
>>12937
I can just imagine some novel or Dark Horse comic miniseries featuring such a droidfu. Gentlest character in the story, save for when her charges are threatened. Also, something along the lines of cheerfully shocking a goon for "touching what's only for Master and young masters." Maybe something cute like "Permission to call Master 'husband'" near the end.
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No.13402
>>13398
As long as its not written by Karen. Fuck, DH's SW comics were looking so promising for the 2010s…
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No.13471
>>13402
Honestly? For what we're after, I'd take Star Wars as written by Jim Butcher if I wanted cinematic delivery combined with sexy women if it were in novel form, the same but with a reliable artist if it were comics. Whoever drew Jarael best would fit the bill. I'll admit, I'm curious as to how Butcher would make a droid into bonerfuel. But I know he could do it. Besides, "lioness housewife droid" sounds like his wheelhouse.
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No.14020
Have we got any drawfags who want to give >>12937 a try?
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No.14047
>>12954
I thought I'd already posted this, but, I'd like to think that force sensitivity would be a matter of mindset, and that a person could be genetically predisposed to that mindset, but that wouldn't necessarily have to be the case for them to pick that (very specific) mindset up at least to some extent.
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No.14050
>>14047
>mindset
you lost me at this tbh, i have no clue what you're trying to say.
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No.14054
>>14047
> I'd like to think that force sensitivity would be a matter of mindset
>>14050
>i have no clue what you're trying to say.
take more psychedelics and reach for the Cheetos until they levitate
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