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a7635a No.16108 [View All]

Things that retarded fans seem to parrot as facts but are complete bullshit and grind your gears.

Here is a common one as an example:

USS Defiant - Sisko's ship - Facts:

>Was equipped with a Romulan cloaking device

>Said cloak was to be only used in Gamma Quadrant

>Also meant to be only operated by a Romulan Waifu that disappeared for whatever reason

>When the original Defiant was destroyed, the replacement did not have a cloaking device fitted

Somehow this translates to:

<Federation had developed cloaking technology

<All Defiant Class ships have cloaking devices

Shit like this makes me rage about the Trek fanbase.

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3c9510 No.20119

>>20118

Conservative values are now the minority in this world so once it gets acknowledged as the underdog all the hipsters will say they are conservatives now and it will gain popularity.

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15a617 No.20138

>>20119

>Conservative values are now the minority in this world so once it gets acknowledged as the underdog all the hipsters will say they are conservatives now and it will gain popularity.

Gavin, I never had you pegged for a Trek kinda dude.

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9e8fe3 No.20160

>>20138

Trek is right.

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7d28df No.20234

>>20160

Trek is always right.

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40d22f No.20236

>>20234

Roddenberry did nothing wrong

1488 gas the klingons

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714dd5 No.20246

>>20117

Yes, "saving the franchise" by digging up a dead rotten horse that fell in glorious battle, applying enough glitz and CGI so it looks about as "alive" as a zombie, and using it as a prop in a porn shoot where it's fucked up the ass again and again.

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2c0b81 No.20292

>>20246

You know if they actually did what you described the end product would have been better than STD.

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8863f0 No.20338

Morn isn't a greater sexual machine than Kirk.

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d23433 No.20344

>>20338

Kirk is the exception that proves the rule.

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552310 No.20373

>>20338

Is this a really a thing people think?

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1cab28 No.20380

The Defiant can cloak in the Alpha Quadrant, just not in Federation space.

Deep Space 9 is not in Federation space, it's owned by the Bajorans, and of course Bajor is NOT part of the Federation. They asked Starfleet to administer the station after the occupation by the Cardassians.

My head-canon (I hate that term, but… you know, you just have to use it sometimes to make things work) says that it's a loophole in the treaty.

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be7e47 No.20382

>>20380

Treaty specifically stated that the Defiant was only allowed to use the cloak in the Gamma Quadrant Redditor.

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aa53aa No.20383

>>20380

>a loophole in the treaty.

Not the Feddies blatantly breaking their own word and getting offended, outraged, and angry whenever someone points it out.

>>20382

Right up until Sisko invoked the 'don't ask, don't tell' clause that the Federation wrote in the margins (using crayon) after the Romulans left the room.

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e0b784 No.20431

>>20383

Federation were literally a bunch of niggers.

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b1de09 No.20600

File: 79a05a3bb2ea16c⋯.jpg (82.26 KB,357x497,51:71,ST2E-EN02166.jpg)

>>16423

as a romulan she looks cute

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552310 No.20613

>>20600

That looks like tuvok in drag

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b1de09 No.20645

File: 5b0cf31ef8ece9f⋯.jpg (70.42 KB,692x530,346:265,unhappyromulan.jpg)

>>20613

She's probably not going to be happy about being likened to a filthy vulcan scum

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f6b14e No.20652

>>20645

>Romulan Deleting.jpg

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45fd32 No.20831

>>16108

>Voyager wasn't fun because Janeway keeps breaking the prime directive

That's the whole reason why Voyager is actually fun. TNG was a bastion of political correctness and Voyager is a reactionary show which turns down the communism.

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3c9510 No.20869

>>20831

Voyager is bipolar disorder, the show.

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28f272 No.27309

>>16136

>Why can't we get a series (or even a decently written couple of episodes) about a Section 31 crew manning a cloaked ship, running around the Alpha Quadrant quietly arranging the odds to make sure that Star Fleet always has the upper hand?

Excellent idea, +1 Internet to you.

>>16191

>WOLF 359 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, BORG SHIELDS CAN'T DEFLECT STEEL BEAMS!

Kek

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50a831 No.27434

>>27309

>>16136

Something tells me that was the plan after DS9: all the mysteries around Sloane, the support of an old main castmember for the first episode in Bashir, the supporting cast in the Admiral and Sloane. instead we got Voyager, possibly because of an outcry for a more traditional trek show?

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50a831 No.27435

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>>20338

Kirk was a sex god because of his position. Morn was a fucking drunk with nothing but a bit of latinum in his belly, surrounded by front-line soldiers.

Morn turned a poonless situation in to a pussy goldmine. Kirk just fucked girls with an affinity for yellow.

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e02e7b No.27442

>>27434

Voyager was well underway by the time Section 31 were invented.

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a9f67c No.27445

>>16122

>I think it's safe to say they came across a planet using gunpowder at least once.

Which they'd probably completely ignore unless the inhabitants had some miraculous powers because there is zero value in assimilating them

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cce2ec No.27446

>>27445

You missed the point entirely, knifeear, I was talking about Borg shields and their bizarre non-resistance to physical projectiles.

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a9f67c No.27452

>>27446

The point is that it's not worth it. A personal energy shield can cover every beam weapon from the LHC to a Klingon disruptor and a few other energy attacks besides, diverting a bullet when you're already 50% metal anyway and don't really need half of your fleshy bits besides, that's not worth investing in a man-size deflector for every drone which is what they'd need to act as an equivalent defence to their shield, it's simply inefficient, there's no need because it's not a legitimate threat to merit the effort.

The Borg are pretty lazy as long as it's not a real threat to them.

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9c5783 No.27453

>>27452

People don't use their brains and shit writing. If the Borg (BoBW) were encountering melee combatants, they'd fabricate shielding and armor to resist melee attacks. Same thing thing with bullets. Picard killed two Borg with holographic bullets. A Phasor can kill between two and seven before they adapt to its frequencies. We have no idea how many he could shoot with the hologun before the Borg put in something to block it.

We know they can adapt to more than energy weapons because in Best of Both Worlds they adapt to a nanite attack. The idea the borg can just get annihilated by guys with modern rifles is stupid.

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95ce5f No.27522

>>16396

Broken Bow was better than Encounter at Farpoint.

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9e10ad No.27523

Section 31 is the most awful shit ever.

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cce2ec No.27524

>>27523

You're just jealous they outlived the Obsidian Order.

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a47d6c No.27525

>>27524

Klingon Intelligence services are better than both.

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793ab0 No.27526

>>27525

Confirmed, Klingons are really the best at everything in the Alpha Quadrant and keep the other races off-balance by portraying themselves as dumb warriors.

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a47d6c No.27528

>>27526

Really Martok is the big offender there. Chang was anything but an idiot. Gowron got plot induced stupidity but before that was a fairly canny ruler.

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cce2ec No.27529

>>27528

Martok wasn't so bad himself before the writers reduced him to a stereotype; the original post that brought this phenomenon to light referenced Martok and how we was able to effortlessly provide Sisko intel on the Maquis.

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17d6f9 No.27561

>>27529

>Sisko: "Our crypto guys can't crack their codes!"

<Martok: "Here, we beat them weeks ago"

>All of starfleet: "Wow! Aren't them Klingons dumb!"

I found it hard to take DS:9's relationship between the Federation and Klingon Empire seriously after nothing changed following that scene.

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5687d7 No.29471

I'm going through TOS for the first time. Every stereotype about Kirk/Shatner is so massively exaggerated. Especially his sexuality. I'm pretty deep into the series and he hasn't had that many romantic encounters so far. Fucking Picard got as much action as this dude. He sure as shit wasn't some horny frat boy either. Kirk was flirtatious, but was also a gentleman and only seemed to hook up with women who could match his wit.

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6d5cc3 No.29473

>>29471

Yeah, Kirk's reputation in pop culture is incredibly far off the mark. I've always thought that his portrayal in "Conscience of the King" really nailed what he was supposed to be. Flirtatious (as you said), but also a strategic and tactical thinker who knows both when to bend the rules, and when to strictly apply them.

Shatner's reputation for hamminess is way overblown. He could be quite subtle when he wanted to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW9Dy3t9zD8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWSLcKBih7w

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cce2ec No.29475

>>27561

It's meme magic, friend, just working in the other direction. Just look at what's mentioned in >>29471 and >>29473, despite copious amounts of evidence to the contrary normalfags continue to have this bizarrely unrealistic view of Kirk, because that's the fiction they want to believe.

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611574 No.29481

>>29473

>>29475

The real question is how did such a meme start? I presume it will be some sort of interview article where they are trying to sell the show as something it's not?

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e4f9f7 No.29485

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>>29473

>He could be quite subtle when he wanted to be.

I watched TOS as a kid and recently got the blu-rays and I'm amazed at how subtle the whole show can be. For instance, in The Man Trap opener, the whole landing party and Dr. Carter are sweating like pigs, but Salt Waifu comes in dry as a bone - a subtle hint that she's not human before all the killing starts. I'm not even sure 60s era TVs could even show details that clearly.

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acfb64 No.29507

>>29473

>>29471

>>29475

>>29481

I believe I've said this before but I have come to the conclusion that anyone who rants and raves about how great TOS is especially over TNG and DS9 has never watched it.

For starters once you've seen about a third of the episodes you've seen them all as the plots were that repetitive. Aside from some truly great episodes there's a lot of garbage there that makes you snore. It was very much a product of it's time so a lot of the shock value it had has since been lost.

Likely what normalfags have seen has only been clips of it or parodies of it which is likely where they get Kirk was a pussy magnet meme from. If anything the guy was just a massive adrenaline junkie but there are about maybe 6 out of 79 episodes where he really uses his dick to solve the problem and that's pushing it!

>>29485

The one thing TOS does well is not the quality of special effects but the way it uses them. The story can be told from just the scenary and costumes alone in most cases.

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428a48 No.29574

>>29485

Black and white tvs and films from even the 30's actually have good quality for the most part I don't know if you have seen them at all.

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b83bfa No.29578

>>16109

>Seriously wtf. She was only in the one fucking episode.

Fuck me, I always imagined she was there and I only wasn't noticing for lack of attention.

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e4f9f7 No.29582

>>29574

Not really, the oldest tv set I've watched for any length of time was an 70s era color tv at my grandparents' house. It was complete ass.

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acfb64 No.29585

>>29574

This is true even to this day, Black and White tv's can have 100% pixel fill which even modern tv's can't achieve. Not sure why mention this unless you are going to talk about the pilot episode?

>>29582

He said black and white anon though not sure what this has to do with anything.

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6d5cc3 No.29589

>>29507

>I believe I've said this before but I have come to the conclusion that anyone who rants and raves about how great TOS is especially over TNG and DS9 has never watched it.

I think it's a generational thing. TOS was certainly hit-and-miss, but the rest of the sci-fi TV landscape in the late 1960s and early 1970s was miss-and-miss. Sci-fi fans who grew up in that time basically had nothing else to watch.

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a2d6a8 No.29728

Biggest misconception here!

Star Trek was made for Americans :^)

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01f5a0 No.30038

>>29471

>>29473

>>29481

>>29507

I always thought that Kirk's faux reputation as a sex-hungry machine was a result of some strange conflation with Roddenberry's life.

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e01397 No.30131

>>30038

Liberals are known degenerates.

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