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 No.11162

>be me

>suffer from negative beliefs about self, possibly have "pure O" OCD (never diagnosed but the articles I read online sound very close to the "crises" I experience once in a while)

>remembering the Litany of Tarski and the virtues of rationality doesn't help

>taking a leap of faith and thinking "I choose to believe that this is so" does help

Whomst /postratanon/ here?

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 No.11163

>I choose to believe that this is so

It is unclear what you're referring to. What do you choose to believe?

>Whomst /postratanon/ here?

There is already a postrat thread. >>9499

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 No.11164

>>11162

>postrat

>>suffer from negative beliefs about self

Sounds about right.

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 No.11165

>mental ilness

/preratanon/ you mean.

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 No.11166

>>11163

>What do you choose to believe?

That I'm not intrinsically unattractive and there are girls that want to date me. That my friends don't just pretend to like me because they feel sorry. That my bizarre doubts about my own identity and the world aren't true. etc.

I know that this post activates the hilarious imageboard social script where you reply "but Anon, all those bad things are actually true" but I do have real evidence against them. It's just that, in my dark moments, the evidence isn't persuasive, while a performative leap of faith is. The conclusion is the same, of course.

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 No.11167

>>11166

If you have valid reasons to believe something on an intellectual level then it's fine if you need a leap of faith to believe it on a gut level. The important thing is that you try to only believe things that are true, and that's what you're doing.

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 No.11168

>>11167

>The important thing is that you try to only believe things that are true

What complicates things in OP's case is that girls seem to find irrational self-confidence (i.e., self-confidence at a level that would be unjustified in nearly all people) inherently attractive.

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 No.11196

>>11162

I've been struggling with intrusive thoughts ever since I had a bad LSD trip (thought loops, paranoia, dissociation) a few months ago, and as a result of seeing this post I looked up "pure O" OCD, which seems to be exactly what I'm suffering from, though there is a bit of compulsive stuff: picking scabs, hand washing, tic-ish behavior.

I already kind of knew I was OCD, since everyone in my nuclear family seems to have it to some degree, but I never connected the issues with anxiety and intrusive thoughts that cropped up after that bad trip to my OCD (I had basically forgotten that the O in OCD meant "intrusive thoughts").

Most of the anxiety was about my inability to pin down whether or not my mental health was deteriorating (and if so, what the cause was), and that became an obsession. I think the thing that scared me the most was that I had no idea _what_ was wrong, which means that if something was seriously wrong I wouldn't know in what direction I should be working to fix it.

AFAICT, once someone with OCD realizes that they are just obsessing over something, the obsession loses a lot of power, though it remains to be seen whether or not my situation will improve.

thanks anon!

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 No.11207

>>11196

Would you still recommend LSD?

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