No.157629
I'm fucking done with the state of the internet in our modern time. Privacy is literally a thing of the past. Nothing we do on the internet isn't stored on some fucker's server, router, or other device.
I hate how software services will tell you that their software offers privacy or anonymity, and attempt to sell that as their main bargaining point. But when you decided to dive a little deeper and read further about their promised "privacy and anonymity," you'll see a line somewhere in there like, "Well... our services do offer privacy, but not complete privacy, only some privacy, we almost give you privacy." Wait what?! Almost? What the fuck does that mean?? I'll tell you what it means, it's like if you went into the bathroom to shit or masturbate, usually you would be able to do this with COMPLETE privacy because there's no one or nothing watching you, but with "almost privacy" it's like the bathroom you're in has a camera mounted on the wall and pointing directly at you. The promise that they give you is, "we won't look at the camera footage while you're taking a shit. ...well, unless we want to for any reason that is hehehe :3 just don't give us a reason to or hope we just don't sneek a peek every once in a while."
Not to mention that the entire fucking internet is becoming more and more regulated by the second. Which greatly hinders the amount of information available on the web. And I'm sure the government's nipples get hard when they have control over the world's largest reservoir of information and can control what they do and do not want on it. We'll probably have something similar to China were nothing doesn't go through the government for approval before becoming available on the web in a couple of years.
And if government control of the clearnet wasn't enough. They also have essentially complete control over the darknet as well. Tor promises anonymity, which essentially means you can do anything on the internet and nobody can know who you are. Well... as long as you follow good practices while doing so. Oh and uh... if someone doesn't hack and view the beginning and ending tor circuits, then you should have complete anonymity. Oh fuck, but that's only... well... unless the government doesn't get involved at least.
Dark web markets die like flies. The government shuts them down almost daily if their successful genuine markets and not just scams. Which one could say is a win for society, until you realize that these markets practice better opsec and online tor practices than the average user. And if the government or even a third-party individual really wanted to, could find out who you are. So now we're left with a dark web that no longer stands up to the infamous reputation that it once held. You used to be able to go onto a dark wiki with a huge list of onion sites that would take you to services that could hide you from any government, services that could give you access to content and resources not allowed in your country and even the most immoral content on the web. But when the government didn't like that, they decided to just seize control of it and de-anonymize tor's users. Now hidden wiki's only host legal onion links and won't even touch any of the darker stuff out of fear of being shut down and thrown in prison. So almost all the "bad" websites are extinct due to being starved of traffic and so easily de-anonymized on tor. Which as I said, seems like a win. But...
Now the people have no power. When you see signs of misuse of or abuse of something like on tor, or even the clearnet back in the day. That means people have the power to do so. And if those people have the power to do bad things with it, then the people who want to use it for good things also have the power to do so. The fact we are no longer seeing signs of misuse of tor or the clearnet is a BAD thing. Because that also renders legal and moral use of tor and the clearnet useless in the case that the government or any powerful third-party decides to fuck over general society. Which one could say is happening right now. And the internet is just one out of the many, many, many things the people are losing power over. We are now powerless cattle in a farmer's pen waiting for slaughter. We couldn't even amass power if we wanted to. We are helpless because we can no longer help ourselves. The majority is now owned by the minority. Welcome to the modern dark age brethren. We're fucked.
TL;DR privacy and anonymity is extinct on the the internet. Because the internet is becoming more and more controlled by the government and the people are losing power over it. This is just one thing we've lost power over as a people. We're powerless and fucked if those with power decide they don't like us anymore.
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No.157636
Does this matter? Just don't access illegal content, and you are safe.
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No.157640
>>157636
TL;DR privacy and anonymity is extinct on the the internet because the internet is becoming more and more controlled by the government and the people are losing power over it. This is just one thing we've lost power over as a people. We're powerless and fucked if those with power decide they don't like us anymore. Which in many cases is already happening.
I make my point on why it matters on the last paragraph. 8kun cut my shitty long ass post, so you probably only read the first three paragraphs.
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No.157655
>>157640
Well, the cp websites on the dark web are now nearly impossible to find.....
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No.157721
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No.157722
>>157655
impossible to avoid**
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No.157738
>>157721
well, the links to those cp sites recently got removed from the clear net, so unless someone re-posts the link to those sites, then they cannot easily be found.....
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No.157784
>>157640
Privacy never existed; especially on the internet. think about it you are basically "logging into" someone elses Computer and giving them your IP, mac addr., etc. etc.
Hell go back to ARPA-Net / Unix times admins could litterly go into your Home folder / email inbox and see everything you are doing.
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No.157785
>>157784
Technically, this also applies to VPNs, which are also traceable
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No.157787
>>157784
only an idiot would seek something that doesn't exist......it is like seeking One Piece, it doesn't exist, Monkey D Luffy would NEVER find it.......
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No.157788
>>157787
There's no question about it
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No.157792
>>157784
That’s true, maybe I’m just thinking about when everything was less regulated by the government because less people were using it.
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No.157806
>>157787
Tor always was a scam, only the drug and hacking sites are legit, all of the cp sites are honeypots.....
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No.157995
>>157629
OP posts this while using Windows. Tails OS solves this issue.
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No.158002
>>157995
nothing solves the issue, just don't be stupid, don't use Tor for illegal things.....never access the CSAM sites on Tor, it is ok to access everything with Tor except for the CSAM content.....
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No.158060
>>157629
Bro I hope you aren't European, because I can tell you it's crap over there. Just look at what those fags want to implement—even though *they're* the ones who need watching the most. But hey, like another user said earlier: this world is controlled by Satan, so there's hardly anything we can do. Still thanks for the message; it's cool to see people who are awake. Focus on your own life, stay realistic but don't give in to defeatism. Hang in there, bro—we're all in the same shit...
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No.158063
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No.158068
Tor always was a honeypot. Even back in 2010, it was a honeypot. Even back in 2010, accessing real cp was not safe. Even back in 2010, Tor hidden services are not anonymous whatsoever for real cp. Even back in 2010, all of the real cp sites on Tor were honeypots. Even back in 2010, the FBI can easily see everyone accessing real cp content with Tor. Even back in 2010, the drug websites are all honeypots. Even back in 2010, the hacking websites are honeypots. Even back in 2010, Hidden Wiki was a honeypot.
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No.158070
Just like literally everything else, it’s going to shit. Just be glad if you are lucky enough to be old enough to remember the Wild West days of the web. They were good times
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No.158087
Internet privacy always was a myth.....the people seeking it are STUPID.....only an idiot seeks something that doesn't exist....
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No.158089
>>158087
I think all of those private sites are fake too. They're really easy to set up. Weird.
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No.158157
>>158089
the cp stuff on the dark web always was a government honeypot, it is actually very easy for the Feds to track down people accessing that stuff even if they are using Tor to access it......Tor does NOT hide your Internet activities from a large-scale government agency.
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No.158175
>>157629
there is no such thing as privacy. privacy is fake
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No.158177
Tor anonymity always was a myth. The moment someone downloads/uploads real csam, the governments can see it (instantly) even if they are using Tor to mask it.
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No.158185
The cp stuff always was a honeypot.....since the dawn of the Internet.....only an idiot uses Tor....remember the post from several days ago about the 200 year sentence for downloading cp......
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No.158192
this doesn't matter, as long as you don't watch real cp......
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No.158406
>>158185
> ..remember the post from several days ago about the 200 year sentence for downloading cp......
Jesus, 200? Got a link?
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No.158409
You people wish for anonymity but wont wish for legalization on the online activities you wanna do
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No.158410
>>157629
Tor is bad OPSEC because it makes what you're doing obvious which is trying to hide something, no one uses Tor with its slow ass loading and shitty UI for watching youtube videos or some shit like that, which is why illegal sites cant hide in plain sight like they can in the clearnet since theres only illegal sites there that cant be hidden amongst crowds of normal sites meanwhile in the clearnet hiding in plain sight is done perfectly to the point that retarded FBI agents have to assume any violent media traces back to school shooters, any porn community traces back to CP rings and any gun nut community traces back to illegal arms dealing etc. which is why they get into so many dead ends and just waste recources.
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No.158412
>>158406
i don't remember where i found the link, but apparently someone was sentenced to 200 years for downloading cp......
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No.158484
>>158412
He must have had a treasure trove of CP
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No.158488
>>158484
well, of course, it is real cp. You don't even need to add the word "real" in front of cp because the word cp automatically implies it is real. I don't think it is even illegal to possess loli and shota hentai (in many places). Not illegal where I live. It is only a felony to possess real cp.
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No.158489
>>158488
naur ai cp is illegal asf
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No.158493
>>158489
it depends on where you live.....it might be illegal, but it isn't illegal enough for a search warrant to happen....if you see a search warrant happen, it is safe to assume it is for real cp rather than hentai.....
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No.158494
>>158493
bro it is illegal everywhere and they do search warrants for it
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No.158496
>>158494
i have never heard of a search warrant for hentai.......i think when you hear the word "search warrant" it is automatically for real cp.....
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No.158551
>>157629
Just wait until you find out about blue pill. You'll probably throw every device you have as far as you can.
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No.158552
>>158551
of course, you shouldn't be searching for certain things.....
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No.158553
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No.158558
Only an idiot uses Tor for cp.....there is so much cp on the surface web.....the dark web cp is all honeypots......just saying.....
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No.158560
Attention everyone it's called csam not cp very disgusting but
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No.158676
>>157629
yep. freedom id dead.
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No.158682
Tor never was safe for cp downloads/uploads. The Feds can most certainly track down such illegal downloads/uploads, even if someone uses Tor to mask their ip address. No intelligent person participates in a dark web cp sharing ring. Even 10 to 15 years ago, the police could track down cp downloaders/uploaders using the Tor software relatively easily. Remember, Tor does not protect you from a nation-state level adversary, like the FBI......most of those dark web cp sites are Fed honeypots btw......ironically, you are safer accessing the cp content on the clear web instead of with Tor/dark web.....
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No.158711
>>158560
one word is censored, the other IS NOT
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No.159126
The cp/csam/underaged porn stuff can certainly be found on the surface web/clear web under the tags of teen/teenager porn. You only need to go on the dark web for the preteen and extremely under aged stuff. Only an idiot uses Tor. Tor DOES NOT protect you from a nation-state level adversary, like the FBI and Interpol. The CP/CSAM stuff on the dark web is mostly government honeypots. CP downloads/uploads can easily be tracked down, even if one uses Tor for it. No intelligent person downloads/uploads illegal content.
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