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>>8556671

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In our modern day time, loads and loads of people believe strongly that whatever is written in books, mostly history books, us archeologist must find the artifact AS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK. Add to it MSM, Hollywood and recently the internet with social media, the truth is easily twisted, distorted to fit whatever narrative a few choses it to be. A lot of people nowadays want quick clicks and fast reading. Unfortunately that doesn’t work in archeology mostly if you are trying to find the truth about something specific. See in archeology, the initial data is always pure, raw….However, the interpretation of the data can be easily biased and manipulated. What people read on the net and from main stream history books are just that = it’s the analyzed version of the initial information found in archeology, which can be biased in the wrong hands. No one is willing to go and dig into a mountain of paper work just to get one sentence out. But it’s much easier and less time consuming to read what others interpret and write about the data.

To make it clearer for anons, I’m going to give you a few examples:

1 – Take a look at all sarcophaguses I’ve attached pictures of in this drop. At first glance, a lot of people immediately say, the first 2 are Pharaoh Egyptian and the last one is Greek. I’m certain millions of people walked by these sarcophaguses in museums without even knowing that they are actually Phoenician. And here comes the drama and the hysteria when I say that to people: “but, but….Phoenician doesn’t look like that! It looks Greek, Egyptian…. That’s impossible.”

No it isn’t? There is a very logical explanation to that. It was the trend back then ^_^ Tabnit and Eshmunazor were both kings of the Polis Sidon and back then, there was Egyptian art influence on the East coast of the Med sea. Those 2 kings had money and they bought those sarcophaguses. Tabnit wrote inscriptions in both hieroglyphics and Phoenician on the cover of his anthropoid sarcophagus, while Eshmunazor only wrote in Phoenician. Then, we have in a later period, where the Greek influence was dominating the East coast of the Med sea, a sarcophagus with Greek design on it. The explanation is super easy: I wear jeans most of the time, does that make me American? I adore eating Spaghetti Bolognese, does that make me Italian? I drive a Honda, does that make me Japanese? See what I mean by cultural influence and trends, anons? And if you’ve got money and you are king, you can buy yourself the best items that are provided by trade in the ancient world, even very exotic items.

And then, when you present this logical explanation, (((they))) and (((their))) minions come up with a supposedly counter argument saying: “if that’s the case, then the Phoenicians didn’t have any culture or arts of their own and they just copied others”. Really? That argument gets easily flushed when you point out that the biggest traders of the ancient world were the Phoenicians = they dominated trade for tens of centuries. Nowadays, if a car dealer buys a big lot of Japanese cars, can’t he keep one of them for himself and use it? And if he is wealthy, can’t he keep more than one for himself? Of course, he can. Back then was no different then what we do now. Imagine Potus not wearing a single one of the ties he produces with his name on it? Or never drink the wine the Trump family makes? Really? So since Potus is in the business, he cannot use his own products? It’s just the same for the biggest traders in the Med sea = can’t they follow the trend of back then and get buried in an Egyptian style sarcophagus? Says who? Oh! (((THEY))) said so. And since (((they))) own or control most media and printing, (((THEY))) get to write history as (((they))) want to interpret it themselves. Followed by a huge brainwashing of the public.

See how (((they))) hide the truth right in front of everyone’s nose?

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>>8556746

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2 – I’m going to talk about a very specific nose, belonging to a very famous person as a second example: Cleopatra….everyone knows her right? And everyone remembers Sophia Loren, but mostly Elizabeth Taylor in her iconic role as Cleopatra. Terribly beautiful isn’t she? Such a wise and powerful woman and so romantic. That’s what (((they))) have made you believe through the means of Hollywood = their tool. The truth as archeologist knows it is totally different from the fiction we see in movies. Here again archeological artifacts are overlooked by the public and they choose the easy way into knowing history = through movies.

Ancient coins are evidence that Cleopatra VII Lagide is nothing like what Hollywood project her to be. Old coins are like a picture catalogue of ancient rulers. So take a look for yourself anons, and look closely to that nose. The truth is, among archeologists, Cleopatra VII is believed to be an ugly woman. The reason is because of the incest marriage in the royal Lagide family for centuries. If you take a look at the founder of the dynasty Ptolemy I Soter – note mostly detail of face, especially eyes, nose and chin, mouth) you will notice that most of his descendants had almost the exact same facial traits, mostly the boggled eyes. And since brothers married sisters to keep the blood pure, they perpetuated those physical traits all the way to Cleopatra VII. And yes, there were 6 other Lagide “queens” before her also named Cleopatra.

Some have attempted to make a digital reconstruction of Cleopatra VII’s true face. There are different results as anons can see, not totally identical, because the people doing the reconstruction have adopted different norms and each interpreted things their way. The point is, this is another method (((they))) used to distort history. The public doesn’t check the archeological artifact, but it’s easier, more comfy, for it to simply watch a movie = it’s like (((they))) cast a magic spell on the people using the movie and made everyone believe an alternative, false reality = welcome to the matrix anons.

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>>8556839

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3 – I’ve mentioned this before and since we are talking about coins being a photographic catalogue of past rulers = their portraits; let me give anons a third example of how (((they))) twisted and manipulated history by using the example of Tigran II the Great. Plutarch mentioned Tigran II in 3 of his “Parallel Lives” (in French: “La vie des hommes illustres”): In Sulla, in Lucullus and in Pompey. In Lucullus, (XXX & XXXI) he described the “reign of Tigran II as being tyranical”. If you read the whole of what he wrote about the Armenian king, anons will get the image of a very tyrannical, block minded, arrogant, power hungry and merciless Tigran II; even I could say a total illiterate barbarian.

Upon digging further, I found out that Tigran was considered by many as a wise ruler. He was very educated for his time, speaking fluently Armenian and Greek. He was patron of arts and his court welcomed musicians, painters, sculptors, poets, writers etc. At the fall of the Seleucid Empire, Antioch called for Tigran to assimilate the Polis and its territory to his kingdom; opening the gates of the city and celebrating him entering it. They even happily accepted to print his famous tetradrachms with the title of “Basileos Basileon Tigranou” = King of Kings Tigran. The reason given by Antioch was that Tigran was considered the only remaining king in the region which not only perpetuated the Hellenistic culture but also had an army powerful enough to defend them against any barbaric aggression including the one of the Romans.

So the Romans considered whatever that was not Roman to be tyrannical, arrogant and barbaric; while the Hellenistic culture considered whatever that was not Hellenistic as barbaric. But if you look closely to Plutarch’s texts, you will notice that he “attacked” Tigran’s personality, not mentioning his accomplishments (unless they are bad ones) or the cultural nest which his court was. In other words Plutarch did his best to paint the Armenian king in a negative way. If anons compare, it’s the exact and same method used by nowadays MSM to attack Potus and paint a negative image of him. Same type, exactly the same. If I wanted to describe Plutarch bias, I would say he was the Roman CNN – if you know what I mean there.

But this doesn’t mean Plutarch’s text should be thrown away and disregarded. In fact, there is one section in his description of Tigran that matches the truth: it’s when he described Tigran’s clothing and crown. How do I know this? Remember how I keep on saying that the text must match the archeological artifact and not the artifact must match the text? The answer was provided by Tigran’s coins, his famous tetradrachms. So only in this section of his writings about Tigran did Plutarch say the truth because what he wrote is very very close to what we see on those famous tetradrachms. That section matches the archeological artifact. So you see anons, no matter how much Plutarch slandered Tigran and called him stuff, even invented stuff or omitted them, there is a small fraction in his text that was truthful. This is why we got to always handle the ancient texts very carefully, very.

4 – My last example is something that I’ve experienced myself in one of my digs. An acquaintance of mine needed an extra set of digging hands to help him out at a small site from the Middle Ages. Not my era but a digger is a digger in archeology. So I agreed to it, and of course the experts handled the artifacts that came out, I just helped them get them out of the soil. So I was digging a medieval site and I had the surprise of my life time: right there, next to the skeleton I was digging out, very close to it, was a soda can.

A soda can with the design from the late XX century, laid so close to the skeleton I was digging. My first reaction was = somebody was pulling a prank on me. I asked everyone around but everyone was as much as surprised as I was. So it was not a prank. We decided to take a closer look at this soda can: it looked like it was smashed on one side while it had this kinda of circular hole in it. We couldn’t figure out what it’s all about. There was no explanation, no logical explanation onto how this “modern” day soda managed to get into the medieval layer which was many centuries ago. And I can assure everyone, no one pulled a prank, it was not the wind blowing it since the design on the can was from late XX century, and it was surely not the aliens who put it there. So how did it get there?

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>>8556987

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I’m very interested in GIANTS and ELONGATED SKULLS. I think it goes straight into a section of the puzzle. But as I just said, no nephilim, so when I will be talking about giants, it will be mostly about graves, skeletons and sculptures.

In order to understand me better, please anons, go grab a coin; any coin would do. Then take a good long look at that coin. Turn it around and inspect closely every inch of it. If I asked anons how many sides does a coin have; what would your reply be? I bet most if not all would tell me two sides (heads and tails); while I would reply three side = heads, tails and the edge.

We always have 2 sides of things in life and that includes History: we had the main stream history and just on its opposite side, we had the alternative history. But what if both are wrong and both are right? What if neither got it right? What if each got a fragment of the truth? What if the truth was stuck on the line, somewhere, where both sides meet? What if there was a third option?

This is where I will be walking. I will be walking on that narrow edge of the coin, where the heads and the tails meet. And if you look closely, there are ridges on most coin edges = it’s going to be a bumpy ride.

I’m not “satisfied” with the main stream history, like when they tell us that the Sumerians “suddenly appeared out of nowhere”. That doesn’t make any sense? And I’m not satisfied in what the alternative history is telling us = Aliens = the anunnaki created the Sumerians. It doesn’t stick with me. What if, there was a third option? What if there was a very logical explanation? But it was kept away from us in order to hide a much bigger truth.

With everything said and done, I’m going to ask anon, whoever is truly interested in knowing the truth, to take a bit of your time and read about Armenia’s geography - precisely: the geographical location, the relief = physical geography, the hydrology, the meteorology, the fauna, the flora, agriculture, domesticated animals and the minerals coming out of the earth. In order to understand what I’m going to talk about, you got to get acquainted about those first anons.

I’m going to stop here for now and give interested anons a few days so that they can get acquainted about Armenia’s geography. I already know all of that. Until then, every do take care, stay safe and God bless you.

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>>8557028

This is the old man,

Wishing everyone reading this a good day,

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I’m going to continue where I left off:

Let me tell anons how it all started: I was working back then in a research place, as a team member and we had this big research. It took us 7 full years to accomplish it. For obvious reasons I’m not going to mention the subject of our research, but I want to point out that in order to get the information needed for that specific subject of ours, we had to gather secondary information. That secondary information consisted of two points: 1 – finding ALL the trade (traveling) routes leading to the East Coast of the Med Sea. 2 – What type of merchandise was used in trade. We also had a specific time frame to work under = from 2000 B.C. all the way to the end of Augustus’ reign. HUGE isn’t it? But just like I said, this was only secondary information which will lead us to our main research subject, back then.

The geographic area to cover was as huge as the time frame. So we decided to divide the work between us and each one of us was in charge of one “geographic location” to gather the required information from. It turned out Armenia was assigned to me. A place, I know almost nothing about apart hearing of the genocide. So I was as clueless as clueless can be about Armenia.

I had to start somewhere, right? And what better way to get acquainted with Armenia than to get to know its geography (=context). I want to point out to anons, that geography is ALWAYS HONEST, it cannot LIE or be BIASED. It’s a physical object, or should I say a force of nature that cannot be changed: like we have a mountain here, a river there, a valley next to a mountain which is this high and this wide etc. No matter how you try to twist it, the physical geography of a place remains the same for everyone to see.

I read a lot of modern books about Armenia’s geography. Of course I used maps, saw videos and pictures of it as well, to confirm what was written. I even read from ancient sources (Strabo, Geography, mostly XI) and compared what they said to modern day writing to see if there were any type of changes, mostly in the flora and fauna.

There are a few important things that popped out about Armenia’s geography that anons should take note of:

Its geographical location on a HIGH plateau = Armenia is considered a HIGHLAND. It’s like a huge maze of interlocked or zigzagging mountains, making it a NATURAL fortress. No matter what the era, century or rule was, 90 % of Armenia’s ancient capitals were located in what is called as “Armenia’s heart”, including nowadays capital Yerevan (which apparently means Victoria). I was surprised to see how easy it is to locate Armenia on any map (just like the boot shape of Italy) because of “Armenia’s heart” = the 3 Armenian lakes with the names of Van, Sevan and Urmia consist of the 3 angles of a triangle, once connected like what I did on this map, anons will have a visual of Armenia HEART. Those 3 lakes along with Erzerum and Ararat were from the beginning of times part of Armenia; they were stripped away from it by the Bloodlines at the beginning of the XXth century….but that is a story for another time.

Another specific trait in Armenia’s geography is that all through history, heart land Armenia = the plateau, never had any direct access to any sea. And then comes the weather, mostly the terrible Armenian winter. There isn’t anyone writing about it who didn’t describe it as a harsh winter, which is due to the altitude of the plateau. This terrible Armenian winter was in a strange way like a protector, shielding the plateau many months per year from invading armies.

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>>8582672

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Strabo, reported something about the winter: apparently travels of the Armenian Plateau during winter used very long sticks, tube like sticks. These specific sticks had a double function: 1 – In case of an avalanche occurring and they were buried, those sticks would be used as tube to breath. 2 – Those sticks would also pin point the location if they got buried in an avalanche.

Even Xenophon, in his Anabasis (IV), reported how harsh and terrible Armenia’s winter is. He even reported that the locals used, during winter, to wrap their horse’s feet with animal skins so they won’t sink into the snow. As if this was not enough, the plateau was also exposed to violent winds.

After I got acquainted to the “WHERE” my research was going to take place, it was time to find out about the “WHAT” and the “HOW”.

One of my early findings was the inscription of Behistun, located in nowadays Iran. Let me say from the get go: FOR NOW, I’m not going to comment on the relief. I’m ONLY going to talk about the TEXT.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behistun_Inscription

“The Behistun Inscription (also Bisotun, Bistun or Bisutun; Persian: ‎, Old Persian: Bagastana, meaning "the place of god") is a multilingual inscription and large rock relief on a cliff at Mount Behistun in the Kermanshah Province of Iran, near the city of Kermanshah in western Iran, established by Darius the Great (r. 522–486 BC). It was crucial to the decipherment of cuneiform script as the inscription includes three versions of the same text, written in three different cuneiform script languages: Old Persian, Elamite, and Babylonian (a variety of Akkadian). The inscription is to cuneiform what the Rosetta Stone is to Egyptian hieroglyphs: the document most crucial in the decipherment of a previously lost script.

Authored by Darius the Great sometime between his coronation as king of the Persian Empire in the summer of 522 BC and his death in autumn of 486 BC, the inscription begins with a brief autobiography of Darius, including his ancestry and lineage. Later in the inscription, Darius provides a lengthy sequence of events following the deaths of Cyrus the Great and Cambyses II in which he fought nineteen battles in a period of one year (ending in December 521 BC) to put down multiple rebellions throughout the Persian Empire. The inscription states in detail that the rebellions, which had resulted from the deaths of Cyrus the Great and his son Cambyses II, were orchestrated by several impostors and their co-conspirators in various cities throughout the empire, each of whom falsely proclaimed kinghood during the upheaval following Cyrus's death.

Darius the Great proclaimed himself victorious in all battles during the period of upheaval, attributing his success to the "grace of Ahura Mazda".

The inscription is approximately 15 m (49 ft) high by 25 m (82 ft) wide and 100 m (330 ft) up a limestone cliff from an ancient road connecting the capitals of Babylonia and Media (Babylon and Ecbatana, respectively). The Old Persian text contains 414 lines in five columns; the Elamite text includes 593 lines in eight columns, and the Babylonian text is in 112 lines. The inscription was illustrated by a life-sized bas-relief of Darius I, the Great, holding a bow as a sign of kingship, with his left foot on the chest of a figure lying on his back before him. The supine figure is reputed to be the pretender Gaumata. Darius is attended to the left by two servants, and nine one-meter figures stand to the right, with hands tied and rope around their necks, representing conquered peoples. A Faravahar floats above, giving its blessing to the king. One figure appears to have been added after the others were completed, as was Darius's beard, which is a separate block of stone attached with iron pins and lead.”

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>>8582838

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A translated section from the inscription:

“Darius also lists the territories under his rule:

King Darius says: These are the countries which are subject unto me, and by the grace of Ahuramazda I became king of them: Persia [Pârsa], Elam [Ûvja], Babylonia [Bâbiruš], Assyria [Athurâ], Arabia [Arabâya], Egypt [Mudrâya], the countries by the Sea [Tyaiy Drayahyâ], Lydia [Sparda], the Greeks [Yauna (Ionia)], Media [Mâda], Armenia [Armina], Cappadocia [Katpatuka], Parthia [Parthava], Drangiana [Zraka], Aria [Haraiva], Chorasmia [Uvârazmîy], Bactria [Bâxtriš], Sogdia [Suguda], Gandhara [Gadâra], Scythia [Saka], Sattagydia [Thataguš], Arachosia [Harauvatiš] and Maka [Maka]; twenty-three lands in all.”

And there is also this second source, to read carefully because of Vanderbilt University (this indirectly means cabal was trying to decipher the text – (((they))) were interested in it): https://www.ancient.eu/Behistun_Inscription/

It’s important to note “the countries by the Sea” = this refers to the Phoenician City-States, like Byblos, Tyr, Sidon, etc. But we will leave this for some other time. And of course, there is Armenia. Why is this important or relevant to what my research? Because it is providing subtle information beyond the obvious ones: the Armenian Satrap couldn’t leave the territory for LONG. All of the Satraps were supposed to pay tribute to the Medes then the Persians. With the “political” instability and mostly the rebellion of some of the Satraps, it’s obvious the Armenian Satrap couldn’t leave for a very long period his Satrapy to travel all the way to Persia to pay the tribute. A subtle information which was backed up by the harsh and terrible winter of Armenia: they had a very narrow time window in which they could travel from and back Armenia without being trapped by the weather. So in an indirect way the Inscription of Behistun provided me with 2 clues:

1 – The means of travel shouldn’t consume too much time, it should be a “quick” method of traveling all of this distance, and this includes all types of people traveling, from the Satrap to traders.

2 – Armenia had “precious” merchandise (thought after) which was paid as tribute to the Achaemenid kings.

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>>8582860

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This lead me to check what was THAT tribute and it lead me straight to Apadana East Stairs’ relief.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apadana

“Apadana […] is a large hypostyle hall, best said the great audience hall and portico at Persepolis and the palace of Susa. The Persepolis Apadana belongs to the oldest building phase of the city of Persepolis, the first half of the 6th century BC, as part of the original design by Darius the Great. Its construction completed by Xerxes I. Modern scholarship "demonstrates the metaphorical nature of the Apadana reliefs as idealised social orders".

“The Apadana was the largest building on the Terrace at Persepolis and was excavated by the German archaeologist Ernst Herzfeld and his assistant Friedrich Krefter, and Erich Schmidt, between 1931 and 1939. Important material relevant to the excavations are today housed in the archives of the Freer Gallery of Art in Washington, DC.

It was most likely the main hall of the kings. The columns reached 20m high and had complex capitals in the shape of bulls or lions. Here, the great king received the tribute from all the nations in the Achaemenid Empire, and gave presents in return.

Access to the hall is given by two monumental stairways, on the north and on the east. These are decorated by reliefs, showing delegates of the 23 subject nations of the Persian Empire paying tribute to Darius I, who is represented seated centrally. The various delegates are shown in great detail, giving insight into the costume and equipment of the various peoples of Persia in the 5th century BC. There are inscriptions in Old Persian and Elamite.”

On the East side of the Apadana staircase the Armenian delegation is represented. And what they paid as tribute was: HORSES and WINE. This archeological finding was supported by what was written in ancient sources (remember how I always say that the written source must fit the artifact and not the other way around?).

In his Cyropaedia (III), Xenophon mentions a dispute between the locals in Armenia which was resolved by King Cyrus. When reading this, many domesticated animals were mentioned, including the Armenian horse.

But the best confirmation came from Strabo, Geography (XI) who stated that Armenia had to pay as tribute of 20 thousand foals, that is 20 000 FOALS, PER YEAR to the Achaemenid king; for the Mithra festival held on the 25th of December each year. Ring a bell anyone? Please take NOTE for later.

Xenophon in his Anabasis (IV) supports Strabo’s words and adds that these foals were destined to the cult of the SUN. After extensive reading, I found out it was widely known through the ages and all the way up to modern times that Armenia was the “Land of horses”. It was famous for it.

Upon further digging, I found out that the prophet Ezekiel said in his lament of Tyr (XXVII,14) : “14The men of Beth-togarmah exchanged horses, war horses, and mules for your wares.” He says that Togarmah comes from the “extreme north”; combining this information with Armenia being known as the land of horses, we can say that “Beth Togarmah ( = house of Togarma) is a reference to Armenia. I will explain this further later on.

We shouldn’t forget the WINE we saw in the relief of Apadana, which I considered as the second Armenian merchandise. I did a lot of reading anons, and I found out that during the centuries the Armenian merchandise traded varied a bit depending on the age and time, but there were 3 MAJOR items which turned out to be consistent = the Armenian horses as I’ve just given an example of, the Armenian wine and animal skin and/or furs. These turned out to be the most famous, consistent Armenian trade items during the ages. And yes, they reached the shores of the East Med Sea. So I finally nailed the WHAT = the Armenian merchandise that reached the coast = HORSES, WINE & ANIMAL SKINS.

This is where I’m going to stop for today anons and give you a bit of time to absorb all that I’ve said. You will understand me more and more as I progress and you will understand why I’m leaving secondary research and details aside for now and going straight ahead to the Main GOAL.

God bless you ALL.

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