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1. We only recently learned that the Vikings colonized North America, and are told the rest of the world never knew of it till 1492 when Columbus sailed the ocean blue. Except, the Vatican had an official Bishop of Vinland in 1121AD. What? Apparently he eventually left the Church to go live amongst the natives!

2. If you believe mainstream chronology (more on this later) then you know that Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the world in the 2nd Century BC. If he was that good at math, it's pretty obvious to look at their modern map and realise that the Mediterranean is a small sliver of the Earth's surface!

3. Surely, a seafaring culture might be tempted to explore? The Phoenicians ruled the seven seas for a thousand years, the traded trinkets to humans, royal purple eye to bronze alloy. But, where did they get the tin they needed to make bronze with?

4. Several "ancient" tin mines were discovered near Lake Michigan.

5. Very few cultures sailed beyond the Pillars of Hercules. Iberia is Ancient Spain, was conquered by the Carthaginians (who were the Phoenicians). On the south west region, a mysterious place called Tartesso existed, a trading culture way richer than it should be. Could this have been the Phoenicians launching port to the America's?

6. The Muslims conquered Spain early in their history, and held on to it for hundreds of years. After the crusades finally weakened their empire, the Vatican finally endorsed a Christian invasion which occurred in many phases. Spain was finally fully "liberated" when they finally conquered the south. Guess the year! 1492. What did they find there?

7. Christopher Columbus was in Spain for years trying to get funding for an expedition to India. His brother Bartholomew was in England trying the same. Suddenly, Spain agrees to fund him. Did the Spanish Catholic monarchs recently learn (from the newly conquered South) that there was vast and bountiful lands out there, and thus let Columbus go find the other side of "India" all the sudden, even though they turned him down for years prior?

8. John Cabot was some failed merchant from Venice with limited experience in navigation. Yet King Henry VII (7) gave him letters patent to claim lands to the West for England. Cabot plopped an English AND Venician flag in North America in 1497. By the way, say Venician again. Now say Phoenician. Did Henry choose Cabot because he was relatively obscure and he wanted to explore without much noise?

9. The "official" rule was if you claim a new land, it extends to the entire connected land mass. At this point, Columbus only actually discovered the Carribean. SCANDAL! Did England just Trump Spain? Does England jointly own the America's with Venice?

10. Not on my watch! Says Spain with its unrivaled navy, backed and endorsed by the Holy See. The Pope splits up the new world between Spain and Portugal, England is not impressed. Henry the VII tried to stop the political marriage of Catherine to his son who would become Henry VIII (8). Yes, that one. History books tell us she couldn't produce a male heir which led to Anne Boleyn and the Church of England breaking from the Vatican. How romantic. What bullshit. Perhaps he had his male babies killed so that Spain wouldn't have an heir on the throne? The Schism with the Pope was because he wasn't being allowed to explore the new world.

11. It's around here, in 1534 that the Jesuits form as a Catholic response to the Protestant Reformation.

12. Queen Mary was Catherine's child, thus tried to restore Catholic rule and relations with Spain. Of course, English loyalists who knew what was at stake had to get Elizabeth, Anne Boleyns child, on the throne. The Spanish tried to assassinate her many times throughout her life to no avail. In 1558 Elizabeth finally wrestled the Church from the papacy forever.

13. In 1559 she revived and expanded the navy. Before this she endorsed "Pirates" like Sir Francis Drake to rob Spanish ships full of new world gold, and also explore (he made it all the way to California). At last England could freely explore without needing the Pope to approve, but Spain still ruled the seas and had developed a huge stake in South America.

14. By the way, look up exploration missions of this era. Notice how England stops exploring for a HUNDRED YEARS?! Now you know why.

15. England had a claim to North America, but to secure it they needed to earn it. They had to defeat the Spanish at sea. The circumstances of how she sunk the Spanish Armada is curious. The seasoned and skilled Spanish commander randomly died and is succeeded by some amature. Bad weather fucks them over. Elizabeth DECIMATES the fleet and barely looses a ship. I suspect some epic revenge spying and sabatoge happened. Now England ruled the ocean, and soon after the East India Trading Company is born. Go look up their flag.

VIDEO: The tragic (yet often beautiful) story of Osiris, Isis and Set

THEORY:

Osiris=Saturn

Isis=Venus

Set=Planet X

Horus=Jupiter

Ra=Mars

NOTE: Please reference Saturn and "polar configuration theory" posts in previous thread (V2) to understand what this is about.

>>1940204

http://archive.is/LUkt8

Couldn't figure out the best place for flat earth discussion so hear will do because flat earth is a major part of this satanic deception.

If you've been following qanons breadcrumbs for flat earth this guy has a flat earth model consistent with the breadcrumbs/book of Enoch/Bible descriptions and observable reality - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIhBO2DTHgQcW033kebPnpyWfmlPtgdVy

>>4003191

Hey thanks for posting! Great images please post more.

I've been deeply reading Fomenko lately.

This might blow your mind, but it's actually possible that the "ancient" Egyptians weren't ancient and still thriving up unto the age of discovery.

There is a famous temple in Egypt that has a horoscope depicted therein. When you calculate the alignment it is reflecting, the best fit is from the 1400s AD!

I've been intrigued at how many Phoenician relics look downright Egyptian…. Perhaps they actually WERE the Egyptians afterall. Perhaps they didn't disappear at all. John Cabot was a Venician/Phoenician/Egyptian who claimed North America.

Now you know why USA embraces Egyptian symbols, it was claimed by them.

>>4005608

The deception is that hell exists. There is no "below" on a sphere. Hell is a mind space in the now. Hell is alienation from goodness, truth, and beauty.

>>4011529

One of my main objections to the PC is that it seems so absurd that such an event happened within living human memory.

But lately I'm beginning to question our collective memory.

Why was history fabricated in the middle ages? We have literally not a single writing from before then. Absolute earliest is allegedly 800ad. Stone is nice but etchings can't be dated.

Thunderbolts goes on at length about cave art depicting the PC. I think some cave art is fake, but those that are real are far more recent than claimed. Go ahead, go PAINT on rock and come back 10,000 years later. The best painters of the renaissance, using the best materials, suffer from their works deteriorating.

So, let's argue that the PC happened. About 2000 years ago. Most of the world would be ruined. Humanity would have to live underground during the intersolar transfer (giant cave cities exist). They would write their depictions of the PC for future generations to remember.

The mythos of it would be remembered silently in pharaoh crowns. Those who know for certain this happened long for a day to return to Saturn at all costs. Maybe the Climate Change hoax is a convert means of funding technology that could sustain our atmosphere during a realignment back to saturn?

After almost 1000 years of waiting for rescue, and forgetting why they needed rescue, humanity suddenly realized it had no idea what history was, and set off to create a reasonable chronology.

This chronology is almost certainly a fraud. Now you know why.

SUMMARY 2

This is a SUMMARY, NOT NOTABLES OR ENDORSEMENTS

MISSION STATEMENT

We're going back, way back, to where this all began. Join us as we trace from the beginning to today, and identify the symbols throughout the ages and how they show the rise and fall of nations time and time again.

Diggers got Dig. Get in here!

Shills, Flat Earth Fags, please fuck off

PREVIOUS SUMMARY

>>2376768

Part 3 Version 1

NIMROD

>>2710856, >>2711453, >>2953600 - Book READ The Curse of Canaan - By Eustace Mullins

>>2003005, >>2011231 - Astarte (goddess worship) and feminist movement?

PHOENICIANS

>>2481406 - 8:40mins - Germanic Barbarians Phoenician link to Germanic tribes and Vikings. Strong Link

>>2684194 - Phoenician / Canaan DNA dig. They "Rule over the multicultural blob"

>>2622953, >>2690765 - Alternative history Mormons. David and Solomon Pharaohs (Hyksos occupation of Egypt, Seqenenre story, Orsirus, Hiram, Jesus, Etc…?)

SATURN

>>2481694 - Video Saturn could have been sun at some point in the past. The primEVIL sun. The Bull of heaven.

>>2481406 - Video Saturn the Sun. Pagan connection to holidays to Saturn. Sunday is Saturn-day. according to video. Romans and Israelis claim to be from Saturn or children of Saturn. Child sacrifice to Saturn or and El or Moloch.

MOAR SATURN, >>2482007, >>2482219, >>2482336, The cosmic wheel could be Saturn., >>2482524, Barry Knows, >>2483037, from ancient knowledge to modern popular culture.

VIDEO - From Video Holy Mountain (1973), >>2483319

VIDEO - , >>2483393, >>2483437, >>2483458, Symbols of alien sky. MOAR Saturn discussion. Long Videos TLDW

>>2484006 - Interesting connection to different light wavelengths from lights from Saturn sun.

>>2484254 - Jupiter link

>>2484361 - Saturn vs. Jupiter

>>2492331 - Saturn theory in response to Anon.

>>2496597 - Saturn related to Phoenicians and sacrifices to Moloch

FREEMASONRY

>>2483501 - Apron dig

'SIRIUS

>>2490455 - Anon claim it's Sirius not Saturn

>>2490640 - Moar Sirius

>>2490687 - Sirius linked to human trafficking - no sauce :(

Gnosis

>>2490498 - Focus more on esoteric suggests an anon.

>>2907602, >>2910975 - Hermetic Principles

>>2954276 - Sophia. The original knowledge or wisdom?

OTHERS

>>2491459 - Weaving Spiders dig - related to NWO.

>>2491652 - Ancient Aratta-Ukraine [oldest civilization?] - Alien? Cone shaped head

>>2493191 - Response to Giant question, Electric Universe, Sirius.

>>2592427 - An anon trys to summarize., >>2593288

>>2661998, >>2666691 - Baphomet digs, VIDEO

>>2592594, >>2668767, >>2668767 - Why so much war / destruction in Middle East?

>>2640552 - Video Problems with Religion. Stories

>>3030525 - Audio book. Irish Wisdom… Related to Phoenicia?

>>3684734, >>3684739 - It's all Goddess worship silly.

Is Narnia based upon somewhere real?

Does this place have symbology here there and everywhere?

Stone owls, inveted pentagrams, Mr. Tumnus's

Wooden carvings of Royal Symbols and an erect unicorn penis.

Who is Roger Cashmore?

Does he have any important ties to CERN?

Where was he fired from?

Does the Hellfire club still exist?

Has it been rebranded as the Phoenix?

Is it a coincidence that the colors of the 'Lima' flag are the same as those of the place where it now exists?

The more you know = NBC

What is an anagram of NBC?

BNC.

Brasenose College.

Do you believe in coincidences?

SYMBOLISM WILL BE THEIR DOWNFALL

This man is very knowledgeable,travels throughout europe pointing out the symbology. Stated the royals//masons/Jesuits all come from phaironic line, then swiss Templars, who were nazis, who still run the world.

Check it out:

https://youtu.be/p-BFmn2S_jU

He also does daily videos as he travels on his other yt channel, "central intelligence agency".

He's fascinating and very interesting.

4151830 cont from last post: correction: video posted is from his "central intelligence agency" yt channel. Other channels he has are "giureh" and "chatzefratz"… this guy is a wealth of info..

>>4184896

I have been on that site for the past couple of days and it offers much insight for an alternative perspective on history much of which seems extremely plausible to have occurred.

Something I have noticed that St. George slaying the dragon could in fact be a griffin.

Griffin = Half Eagle/Half Lion, Eagle rules the sky and Lion rules the land; symbol of Tartaria

It could also be the case that the half-man/half lion "sphinx" in Egypt is really a griffin. And (((they))) altered the sphinx to fit (((their))) narrative.

So we really know who built the pyramids/sphinx now.

As for the owl it is nocturnal bird that can "see in darkness"

JK Rowling Harry Potter series' includes the main character joining Gryffindor and an owl for a pet. The main villain Lord Voldemort is spoken of as (((he who must not be named))).

Sound familiar or just another coincidence?

She also studied the classics.

Slightly off topic but the Pugachev Rebellion 1773-1775 occurring during the time of our American Revolution 1765-1783 is also a strong indication of what was happening around the world.

At the time of Pugachev's execution he was 33. (((Coincidence)))

Also, Q Post 566 states: Make sure to learn Russian. This could be one meaning.

I hope fellow anons will be able to help sort this out.

>>4184378

Has anyone read this yet? If you've read this and it DOESN'T blow your mind, read it again.

Fomenko does this repeatedly. Showing how chronological reigns of kings literally match the same sequence and lengths of rules in other kingdoms later on.

Biblical Kings = Roman Kings = Byzantine Kings

What does that mean?

It means Rome never actually happened. It was a fiction, a phantom past, a reflection of Byzantine history replicated backwards through time. Not once, but many times!

Perhaps in those days, local rulers wanted to have a nice legacy to claim power from so they just copy/pasted from a rich history elsewhere. No one was smart enough to notice or care. The rulers didn't care about plagiarising, they only cared about their little chunk of the world and not about what people in 2018 would think about it.

When the enlightenment happened, all these smart idiots got confused and didn't notice that they were basically the same stories, slightly modified, over and over again. They just made a joke that "History repeats itself".

What does this have to do with Q?

Think about it.

If the Roman pagans.. the dastardly Phoenicians… weren't from 400BC but actually from 1200AD (give or take)……….

That means those ancient cults weren't ancient at all.

And it makes the claims of Freemasonry make a LOT more sense.

>>4197455

Very Interdesting…

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=VVH8eyfToR4

for audiobook

Not the best voice to listen to but I ain't got time to read all that!

>>4200049

Yeah I started with this, and it was ok. Thing is, you really do need to focus when reading it. I have it on my phone and I'm abour 350 pages into it now. Things REALLY get good finally about 300 pages in.

The reason being is that Fomenko is a SERIOUS researcher. He's not a blogger. He's not a sensationalist. He's a legit academic and spends a LONG time outlining his methodology. I skipped over a lot of that.

Here's a few bookmarks from the pdf you might want to check out though, note I'm using the text page numbers not the pdfs:

Page 95: Shows how the eclipses in ancient historical texts match PERFECTLY to the conditions only in the 1200's, which means these "ancient" battles were medieval!!

Page 135: Revelations was written in 1486AD based on Astrological Zodiac precise matching.

Page 167: talks about how the books of the Prophets in the Bible actually reference the Revelation and must precede it and not predate it! WHAT-THE-FUCK

Page 238: Reviews a few ancient maps and shows that it's absurd to think these are ancient. We basically don't have maps older than 1200

Page 294: The good stuff, actual comparisons of timelines and where the replications happen.

This is about where I am so far. Just looking at this index is exciting as it shows what I'm about to read:

6. The general layout of duplicates in

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the textbook by Scaliger-Petavius”.

The discovery of the three basic chronological shifts 320

7. The Scaligerian textbook of the ancient history glued together

four duplicates of the short original chronicle 321

8. The list of phantom “ancient” events which are phantom duplicates,

or reflections of the mediaeval originals 323

9. Identification of the “ancient” Biblical history with the mediaeval

European history 328

10. Our hypothesis: history as described in surviving chronicles only begins

in ca. the X century a.d. We know nothing of the events that took place

before the X century a.d. 333

11. Authentic history only begins in XVII century a.d.

The history of the XI-XVI century is largely distorted.

Many dates of the XI-XVI century require correction 334

12. The radical distinction of our chronological concept from the version

of N. A. Morozov 334

13. The hypothesis about the cause of the fallacious chronological

shifts in the creation of the history of antiquity 336

13.1. Chronological shift of a thousand years as the consequence

of the fallacious dating of Jesus Christ s life

Think about what this means, if all history is BULLSHIT until 1500…..

When did we discover the New World?

1500….

MAKES YOU THINK

>>4197455

>And it makes the claims of Freemasonry make a LOT more sense.

newfag here, could you expand on these claims a bit for me?

>>4200551

Complete nonsense. Utter nonsense. Hilarious nonsense. Did I mention that this is nonsense? Who would fall for this?

>>4202607

You likely are just coming across this theory for the first time, haven't read a single one of his proofs, and are just shocked at the idea.

I was too.

Then I read it.

>>4202353

Well their order claims to go way back to the building of Solomons Temple and even back to the building of the Pyramids. I never took such a thing seriously because that would mean they kept intact as a coherent secret society for 3000-5000 or way more years.

https://gnosismasonry.wordpress.com/2015/11/01/how-old-is-the-square-and-compass-and-why-it-matters/

But if those events happened in the past 500-1000 years, sure. Makes sense.

The Freemasons and the Jesuits are likely the ones perpetrated the fake history.

https://ancientmistery.weebly.com/history-is-fake.html (this website seems to be a good intro to this whole rabbit hole)

I don't think the fake history was done ON PURPOSE. But it was conveniently exploited. Any real histories of the ages prior were burned as heretical in the great book burning of the middle ages.

The Catholic Church would keep a copy however, they're all in the Vatican Secret Archives.

>>4129744

Ding Dong

Mind Blown.

Learn Russian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Merezhkovsky

>>4289661

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Merezhkovsky

Big page, can you highlight what blew your mind?

Anyone seeing these schools on lock down?

First indiana , suspect dead no details.

https://www-fox19-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.fox19.com/2018/12/13/police-say-teen-suspect-killed-indiana-middle-school/?outputType=amp&usqp=mq331AQECAFYAQ%3D%3D&fbclid=IwAR1ciqfX5LPoKeKyI6SG1rWUTY_nLsoejNlJFw7vkx5va-8ZHV800ViZblk&amp_js_v=0.1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fox19.com%2F2018%2F12%2F13%2Fpolice-say-teen-suspect-killed-indiana-middle-school%2F

Second columbine high school colorado!

Suspiciois person reported!

https://www.rt.com/usa/446400-multiple-schools-columbine-high/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=push_notifications&utm_campaign=push_notifications

deep state clock work!

>>4292407

A friend tipped me off to Freud's book Moses and Monotheism. I looked it up the wiki which was interesting and followed some of the links there. Also the "see also" links which lead to:

Atenism

Joseph and His Brothers

Moses The Egyptian by Jan Assmann

Osarseph

All were interesting in their own right

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_and_Monotheism

That rabbit hole got me here. There are some interesting things in his background but some of his ideas in his books about the lost and rewritten story of humanity and a 3rd testament yet to be written. It's hard to highlight specifics. It's only of those whole is greater than the parts topics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Merezhkovsky#Merezhkovsky's_ideas

>>4005608

Flat earth is fake. You fucking retarded if you think the earth is flat. Or you disinfo propaganda bot shill controlled by cia.

>>4296713

I think we can finally officially say that FLAT EARTH is not part of Q Research.

You want to discuss that, go somewhere else as it has nothing to do with Q

>>4296014

>>4296713

Q said disinfo is necessary, so I guess we will know which answers were fact and which were disinfo when it is all done.

>>4297156

still watching to see what is fact and what is necessary disinfo. pretty sure you do not have that info yet.

>>4005608

Basically we live on a flat square plane inside a prism (like the great pyramid without the capstone

>>4011529

>>4005608

OK I admit I got half shilled, wasn't really balls deep in flat earth - I suspected NASA was doing a shit job of faking space to promote flat earth. I still think those interviews of astronauts in 'space' is shot on zero g planes - to promote the flat earth psyop. As well as that "operation highjump'.

>>4307479

Still think NASA was turned into a mockery after JFK was assassinated. I think he created it to compete with the black budget secret space programmes already in existence.

Everything out of NASA is probably fake. Rainbows indicate there's some sort of glass like firmament (god's rainbow promise) and also show that the sun is some type of personal projection that moves with you like rainbows do.

>>4301904

So we can just ignore everything that Q says, right?

>>4309253

Finally you are catching on…Q-fag is a lie. There will be NO JUSTICE!

It's the neanderthal world order

Where'd all the Historyfags go? Come on, let's keep digging I feel we're so close.

http://eden-saga.com/en/recentism-fomenko-middle-ages-gone-christ-invention-consequence-great-plague-xiv-century.html

The baptistery in Ravenna

Some may object to me that there are many proofs of the existence of Jesus, all over Europe since the Middle Ages and the introduction of Christianity in Europe. Would that stained glass, mosaics, frescoes and sculptures of the cathedrals representing Christ.

Well this is not so sure. The windows are never earlier in the 13th century, we know very little, and if some well represent Christ, he could be Imperator Constantine disguised as a penitent, wearing the Mithras robe as he liked to show the obverse of his coins.

Before the 14th century, if we find in fact representations of Christ, the name of Jesus and his Biblical identity are never mentioned. For then Christ was not Jesus but the Roman Emperor Constantine dressed like Mithras.

baptistere-de-ravenne-bapteme-jesus-688po

And then came the case of the Baptistery in Ravenna. A dear friend sent me the photo above. And then I pulled the mug. I think my friend did not realize the scope of this photo. I saw evidence that, suddenly, ruining the beautiful theory of the missing centuries. Indeed, the baptistery is dated 6th century, so as Fomenko prior to Jesus’ invention. Yet the mosaic really represents Jesus Christ with John the Baptist, no problem: that Christ then is absolutely not Constantine.

This mosaic by itself shattered the thesis of Jesus invented in the 14th century. One can imagine how it made me shit. So I thought taratata! look see!

Well took me. Wikipedia tells me that: “The Arian Baptistery was located near the church of the Holy Spirit also built by Theodoric and originally named Hagia Anastasis (Holy Resurrection) This church, Arian cathedral was re-consecrated as. Catholic cathedral under the invocation of St. Theodore (soldier and martyr of Amasea in Porto) in 526. very little remains of the original building since its reconstruction in 1543 “.

Rebuilt in 1543, the mosaic is from the 16th century: it is no longer opposed to the hypothesis of a Jesus invented only in the 14th century. The hack is as it were proven … But if a previous baptism in the 14th century were to be discovered, not panic, nothing proves whether Jesus invented. This is the baptism of Mithra – Esus among the Celts. Bloody schemers! They really thought of everything. Well no, actually. They laid a lot of blunders.

Comparative Mythology: Jesus, Mithras and Osiris

I'm starting to zero in on Mithras, I think there's a huge clue here.

They have the timeline mixed up. Mithras was in vogue all the way up to what we call 1100AD. Then the cult of Jesus grew via the Crusades. By 1400, after the plague, the Catholic Church switched to worshipping Jesus instead of Mithras and the history of their prior worship was burned at the stake, either through the inquisition or book burning.

They forgot to modify all their symbols though.

Their Symbols will be their Downfall.

Sun Worship ☼ December 25th - Mithraism - Osiris

>>4347199

While watching this, translate whenever he says "the Church incorporated [this xyz paganism]" into "the Church already had [xyz], but purposed it for the new Jesus narrative". It makes way more sense. The practices weren't "adopted", they were there to begin with, Jesus was actually adopted into this religion and all the symbols had to be adjusted to coincide.

For the sake of balance I'll post this guy who tries to debunk the Mithras/Jesus connection. I feel like he's a bit too smug and dismissive and has the typical "Youtube" patronising voice, but at the same time I do feel like he did dive into the research so it's definitely good food for thought.

>>4347764

As I love reading comments to find folks brutalizing the video in question, here is a rather fascinating one I came across:

criztu

2 months ago

​@Marcel Costache Mitra is Demetra (Demeter)

"Roman" meant "member of the city", that is, of the city of God (Saturn). Being a Roman was a religious concept, by which the rulers considered themselves of divine origin - think "blue blood", and those they ruled over, as mere cattle.

The "Romans" arrived in Italy migrating from the Carpathians. To understand this migration, read Dudo of St.Quentin's Gesta Normannorum. The European civilization - from civis (member of the city) - originates in the lands between Caucasus and Carpathians - what we know as Dacia and Scythia. The "Romans" were pushed out of the father land, in a rather brutal social custom, by which excess males were expelled, forced to live as wolves, preying on other groups, to avoid conflict with their own keen.

Thus, the Romans were merely a mark (state) of the civilization in Dacia-Scythia, with Dacia being the metropolis. This civilization is what the academia calls "Iranic peoples". To get an idea what these Iranic people really were, compare the Romanian words "stana" (a shepherd's estate) with the Iranian word 'stana' (state). Also 'cioban' (shepherd) and 'stapan' and 'jupan' (lord) with Iranian 'cupan'. Of the "Iranic" empire that thrived in Dacia-Scythia, you can read in detail in V.Parvan's works. I'll just add that in Dacia there were the settlements of Sacidava, Sagadava and Sucideva, that document the name Saca (Scythians).

The Sacas (Scythians) are considered the ancestors of the Saxons. That is Saxon is a rendering of Sacasons - sons of Saca. Which Saca is the same thing as Isaac in the Bible. Isaac is the son of Abraham, who is the son of Trac (tav-resh-chet). see William Camden - 'Britannia' (1600) and Sharon Turner - 'The History of the Anglo-Saxons' (1775) and there's more dudes writing about this. I would just add, that you have the so called Sagudati, a "Slavic" tribe, haha, whose name is Saca+Daci. you can find countless maps of Dacia, named Datia.

The conclusion I'd like to point you to, is that:

1. we are currently captives in a nationalist ideology, which is incompatible with the past. That is, there were no "Persians" and "Greeks" and "Romans" and "Dacians". Mithras was not a "Persian" god, Dionysus was not a "Greek" god. To understand this, think of cars or rockets: a Ford is not an "American" car. Soyuz is not a "Soviet" rocket.

2. Christianity is the creation of these "Iranic people" who had a crucial upper hand over all others, in those times: the technology of iron.

3. Israel is the son of Isaac. That means that what we call "Jews" or "Israelites" are merely offspring of the Saca (Scythians), installed as elites over the Semitic peoples in Arabia. To understand the concept of Royal Bloodlines ruling over the nations, look for the origin of the Royal Houses of Europe in 1910. All Royal Houses of Europe, are from Holy Roman Empire, that is, they are Saxons. The kings and queens of England, are from the House of Saxa Gotha Coburg. The czars of Russia were from the House of Holstein Gottorp. The kings of France were from the Capet house, from Holy Roman Empire.

ax yourself: how come a "German" power structure, called itself "Roman"?

true knowledge is very difficult, and you may reject what I shared to you here. but it's ok. Revelation 21:16

Watch at about 45min in

Or watch the whole thing, these guys are great

>>4357616

>>4357706

https://www.space.com/42773-saturn-will-lose-its-rings.html

Bing!

>>4375717

>>4375984

>>4376107

Might have caught one here…

>>4376142

OES=230 mirrored.

230 on its side is…

N

W

O

Is there a relationship between the OES and the PEO?

STARs, Istars, and Sistars

>>4373743 pb

The pattern on the wall breaking through the veil sure looks like pepperoni pizza…I wonder what the reference is…

>>4373605

I'm intrigued by the Mormon claim that Jesus went to America.

I'm on a Fomenko kick right now so I apologise if that turns anyone off, but if we grant his hypothesis that Jesus was actually killed in 1150ad, then it's very possible that he actually just jumped on a ship and went to the new world.

The "church" knew about the New World, they had a Bishop of Vinland in 1121ad.

Absurd claims start to become more feasible if you remove the middle ages.

Is this post trying to alter events of history and remove the Creator from it? I can understand that history has been altered look at 9/11 happened right in front of our eyes. It appears thought that this thread is trying to cast serious doubts as to whether God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit exist at all. That would cause mayhem to do as thou wilt Alister Crowley children eating to go through the roof!

>>4376788

You realize that Mormons believe you can go on to inherit a planet and become savior to it just like Jesus was here.

It’s absolute lunacy but they believe in it.

Are you trying to become a god anon?

You’re not one and you won’t succeed in becoming one. But maybe that’s what their fascination was about the Aztecs and Incas.

Their ability to time travel……

Question everything you've been taught. If you want to understand the true nature of reality you have to expose the deception and find the TRUTH. There is a system of disinformation to keep the masses misinformed and under control. Does the truth disprove God or provide physical evidence of his hand in creating the Earth and all of humanity? I leave it to anons to come to their own spiritual conclusions but there is so much suppressed evidence that history is incorrect and it should not be ignored any longer. We need a new scientific awakening free from (((control))).

The "expanding planets" theory can both contradict and support the "electric universe" theory. I am studying both to compare ideas. I think some combination of both theories could be true. I'm keeping an open mind. I don't want to get too far off topic but I believe all these ideas are related and important to understand in order to understand the beliefs of those who control the world, whether or not their beliefs are true or misguided.

I will post more as I have time. Please keep the discussion going. I am especially interested in the connections between America and Egypt that have been posted already in the previous thread and I plan to discuss this more in detail.

What is the true meaning of the word America?

>>3489314

>>4461887

I finally have a chance to answer, sorry for the delay and I hope you're still around.

No, not at all. In fact, Fomenko actually gives a more reasonable timeline for Jesus and many of the "skeptic" and "atheist" arguments against a Historical Jesus become moot if Jesus was actually from the "1150's". It's hard to wrap our heads around this statement, because it's ridiculous, since we count from the Nativity to begin with. Saying Jesus was born in 1150ad is saying "Jesus was born 1150 years after Jesus was born", waaa?

So that's not what Fomenko is saying. Fomenko is saying is that chronologists fucked up pretty bad, and big, and possibly on purpose. What if Jesus wasn't 2000 years ago? What if Jesus walked the earth less than 1000 years ago?

WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN?

What if the ancient cults of yore aren't ancient, and in fact very recent?

What if the original "Universal Church" was actually a Church of these ancient cults and not "christian" at all. What if the money lenders tables and the den of thieves that Jesus overturned was actually the Catholic Church of that day that was likely engaged in Dionysus worship?

What would you do if you were an ancient Church that ruled based on the ignorance of your sheep, but now that the printing press is allowing translations into the local languages, you're going to be exposed as the cult you are? How would you go underground?

Step 1. Stop doing the practice in the open.

Step 2. Burn books that talk about your practices and declare them to be heretical and totally not official, wink wink.

Step 3. Burn people who remember the truth.

Step 4. Enter the Jesuits who take over the education systems

Step 5. Push history backwards, make the vices of yesterday into the folly of yesteryear.

Step 6. Continue to practice your evil cult stuff in secret.

Think about how much fake news we see everyday that's rewriting history that literally happened a week ago! How they're writing their version of history that paints Trump as a monster. It's so apparent every single day.

Now imagine this on a grander scale.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around it all. It's so mind blowing. Consider this, that if Fomenko is right in that the "Old" Testament was written AFTER the "New", then who the fuck are the Jews? He makes some very compelling cases that this has to be the case. Either we have to accept that the prophets of the "old" were truly prophets, or… they were written afterwards and were actually quoting the gospels and "Revelations" directly.

It's frustrating because no one has SERIOUSLY challenged Fomenko on any of this. They just mock him and roll their eyes. I'm 500 pages into his first book (of seven), and I can't argue with his logic on many of his points.

One skeptic said "If Jesus is Pope Hildebrande, then how come Hildebrande died of old age?!"… That's not at all what Fomenko is saying. He says that the ancient past are phantom images of the more recent past, but they're not perfect copies. There will be variation in the stories. It's the telephone game scaled up monstrously.

Really puts into question the idea of the reformation.. the re-form-ation. Could Christianity as we know it have been finally canonised only 500 years ago?

>>4461990

My current line of thinking is all relgiions don't have it right. That all religions are corrupted. God doesn't need a book to talk to anyone, and he certainly doesn't need your help to kill anyone, or judge anyone.

Religious writings are philosophical/theological musings of Mankind. When they become dogmatic, they become dangerous. When they masquerade as science, they become dangerous.

So really, I find their end game to be rather egotistical to an extreme. I don't think I can relate to that notion. However, I do think the notion of all religion is to become divine.

Holy means separate.

Religion means relink.

God is Holy because he's separated from us and we need to relink to the divine and become whole again.

This doesn't mean becoming *a* God, but realising you are God merely viewing your own creation from a limited perspective.

This is what the mystics have told us forever and seeds of this idea are inside literally every single religion that exists. What differs is merely HOW to achieve this goal.

>>4589191

https://archive.org/stream/AnatolyFomenkoBooks/History-FictionOrScienceByAnatolyFomenkoVol.1#page/n435/mode/2up

If you only read one thing on the NWO, please read this. It is an eye opener.

https://pastebin.com/cFa6x8M8

"EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE AND NOBODY CAN STOP US NOW…"

1969

>>4612217

New Order of Barbarians - transcript of tapes I-III

>>4613372

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entryism

>>4613616

"What if Jesus was a normal man like the rest of us, but more in tune with God source, a conduit to the God source as it were - and the church has spun a narrative that he was supernatural…. To keep knowledge of our innate power occulted"

your inner light ! TRUST YOUR INNER LIGHT !!!!!

Q: transforming water ti wine?..rather wine to water if possible, water is vital in the middle east !

just 1 example

i don't need a book

>>4612217

>https://pastebin.com/cFa6x8M8

CHANGING THE BIBLE THROUGH REVISIONS OF KEY WORDS

In order to do this, the Bible will be changed. It will be rewritten to fit the new religion. Gradually, key words will be replaced with new words having various shades of meaning. Then the meaning attached to the new word can be close to the old word - and as time goes on, other shades of meaning of that word can be emphasized. and then gradually that word replaced with another word." I don't know if I'm making that clear. But the idea is that everything in Scripture need not be rewritten, just key words replaced by other words. And the variability in meaning attached to any word can be used as a tool to change the entire meaning of Scripture, and therefore make it acceptable to this new religion. Most people won't know the difference; and this was another one of the times where he said, "the few who do notice the difference won't be enough to matter."

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Q

!ITPb.qbhqo

9 Dec 2017 - 11:12:19 AM

News unlocks map.

Future proves past.

Why was the Lord's prayer posted?

Which version?

Why is this relevant?

What just came out re: the Lord's prayer?

What can be connected?

Do you believe in coincidences?

Re-review the map post relevant news drops.

Godfather III.

Q

>>4633537

Psalm 10:7

His mouth is filled with cursing and deceit and oppression; under his tongue are mischief and iniquity.

>>4634492

Q - Nice verse. 8ch has never once in their history ever verified anything as being real and happening as they stated. Enter year 3 and all lies. Just another day on 8ch

…Saturnian cults.

Their desire to bring about a return to a 'golden age', which was nothing more than humankind subjugated by fear, anxiety and confusion.

An age when Saturn was the polar north star and the planetary configuration much closer than the current order. The skies a purple haze, sudden disasters due to electrical exchanges of planetary bodies passing close (think of a static electric shock on a grand scale when Mars and/or Venus come close to the Earth) and a handful of self proclaimed 'illuminated ones' posing as a false savior or messiah.

These are the same cultists that have kept the true history of Earth and humanity a secret, then flaunt their symbols in the face of the ignorant.

black sun = Saturn

>>4589191

Pretty interesting stuff

>>4348321

In Poland the local nobility called Szlachta(derived from the German 'slachten' which means to butcher) widely believed they were descendants of the Sarmatians, closely related to the Scythians.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if all European nobility was descendant of these Iranic nomads. In the middle east they were sometimes known as the Umman Manda.

I wonder if there is any statistics of genes of nobility, they probably wouldn't allow it.

Also in Slavic languages the word for state is also "stan"

>>4634723

Yet…here you are!

>>4643125

Ya know…………….

Before, I didn't give the Polar Configuration theory much thought. Sounds so crazy. Surely humanity would record such an event. But after reading Fomenko, and the theory that History before 1100AD isn't reliable… isn't it actually a possibility?

I used to think "We don't know what the hell Humanity was up to before 11000BC…" now i'm starting to think "…before 1100AD…."…

If such a crazy event happened, maybe the powers at be saw a good reason to occult it?

What I REALLY WANT TO SEE (for real) is one of the Electric Universe people to model how the transfer would actually happen and also predict what kind of reminents in the solar system would be left behind if such an event occurred in the VERY RECENT past.

>>4657311

NEW VENICE DOMINATES PLANET EARTH NOT THE C.I.A

April 14th 2016

By: The Unhived Mind

Please don’t be fooled into thinking that the Central Intelligence Agency masters all the other intelligence agencies as disinformation like that is simply not true. The Central Intelligence Agency doesn’t even have information that the Jesuit Order has let alone the Israeli Secret Intelligence Service and British Intelligence. Both the Central Intelligence Agency and Israeli Secret Intelligence Service serve the British intelligence services known as the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6) and Security Service (MI5) both of which are commanded by the Prince of Wales and the Duke of Kent through the Most Honourable Military Order of the Bath along with the Most Distinguished Order of Saint Michael and Saint George. Both the Central Intelligence Agency and the Israeli Secret Intelligence Service were created by Sir William Stephenson the head of the British Security Co-ordination (MI6). The finest intelligence agencies in the world are based in New Venice (Britain) and Rome such as the The Entity (Entitas). The British intelligence network is based on the most excellent but evil Venetian intelligence systems of the Consiglio Dei Diece. When it comes to special military operations the Empire of New Venice never relies on the U.S. plantation and its Green Berets, Navy Seals or Delta Force but instead the first choice will always be the reliable British Secret Air Service and its subsidiaries like the dreaded Keany Meany Services. I’d like to remind you of Kay Griggs the wife of Marine Corps colonel George Griggs and how she always claimed that the Central Intelligence Agency was nothing more than a bogeyman or a diversion in order to guide you away from the real military powers which were tied to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. If the Central Intelligence Agency is so all knowing and powerful then ask yourself why the Director of Central Intelligence, George J. Tenet didn’t even know about or even understand how the both the chief of the Secret Intelligence Services (Sir Richard Dearlove) and the Director General of the Security Service (Sir Stephen Lander) managed to enter closed U.S. Airspace within hours of the 9/11 attacks. Now please can you tell me if it sounds like all the shots are being called out by the Langley crew? The intelligence agencies like the Central Intelligence Agency are mere fronts created by New Venice in order to just do the Empire’s dirty work in keeping the Empire’s economy either flowing or stagnant depending on the desires and needs of the time according to the recommendations of the Venetian Arsenal mind benders web. So now you can understand why when it comes down to raw tacks then the true masters in New Venice will always step in and pull the strings over its plantations and slave fronts…..

https://theunhivedmind.com/UHM/new-venice-dominates-planet-earth-not-the-c-i-a/

from wikipedia (note the supernatural birth) - part 1

Within the Roman empire, Germanic tribes had lived in the river deltas now in the Netherlands long before the names "Frank" or "Salii" appeared. The most important are known to history as the Batavi, a name based on the older name of the island they lived on, which is where we first find the Salians living. They were reported by Tacitus to be immigrants from the Chatti.

The first mention of Franks in the area was about 286 AD, during the reign of emperor Probus (276-282), when Carausius was put in charge of defending the coasts of the Straits of Dover against Saxon and Frankish pirates.[10] In the time of Probus there is also record of a large group who decided to hijack some Roman ships and return with them from the Black Sea – reaching the Atlantic after causing chaos through Greece, Sicily and Gibraltar.[11] It has been proposed that the meaning of the term Frank changed over time, and that these pirate Franks were actually Frisii, or some other coastal people.[12] Centuries before the Vikings, the term "Saxon" came to refer to coastal Germanic groups specialized in raiding Roman territories by boat, whereas the Franks were strongly associated with the inland Rhine region.

In the later period when the Salians first appear in the record, the term Frank was not associated with seafaring or coastal tribes. Their origins before they lived in Batavia are uncertain. Much later, it was only Zosimus, and not Ammianus Marcellinus whose work he possibly partly followed, who claimed that the Salians had once lived under the same name outside the Roman empire, saying that they had been forced away by Saxons, and had come to share control of Batavia with the Romans. Whatever their origins, Zosimus says they were being pushed out of Batavia by a Saxon group known as the "Kouadoi", a Greek spelling of "Quadi" which some authors believe might be a misunderstanding for the Frankish Chamavi, who were mentioned by Ammianus.[13]

According to Zosimus, these Saxons had used boats on the Rhine to get around other Frankish tribes who effectively protected the Roman frontier, and into the Roman river delta. Julian took the opportunity to allow the Salii to settle in Toxandria, south of Batavia, where they had previously been expelled:

"[Julian] commanded his army to attack them briskly; but not to kill any of the Salii, or prevent them from entering the Roman territories, because they came not as enemies, but were forced there […] As soon as the Salii heard of the kindness of emperor Julian the Apostate, some of them went with their king into the Roman territory, and others fled to the extremity of their country, but all humbly committed their lives and fortunes to Caesar's gracious protection."[14]

The Salians were then brought into Roman units defending the empire from other Frankish raiders. Ammianus Marcellinus on the other hand mentions the Chamavi, normally considered Frankish, as the Germanic tribe who had entered the empire in this area at this time. Unlike the Salii, these Chamavi were expelled from Roman lands, though they clearly lived close by, where their grain was disappointingly unready for Roman use.[15]

In a poem from 400 Claudian celebrates Stilicho's pacification of the Germani using names of people which may only be poetic: "Salian now tills his fields, the Sygambrian beats his straight sword into a curved sickle". (The Sugambri had apparently long ago been defeated and moved by the Romans.)[16]

from wikipedia (note the supernatural birth) - part 2

From the 420s onwards, headed by a certain Chlodio, a group of Franks pushed through the boundary of the Roman inhabited Silva Carbonaria and expanded their territory to the Somme in northern France. Franks then ruled that area which included the Belgian city of Tournai, and the French city of Cambrai. Chlodio is never referred to as Salian, only Frankish, and his origins unclear. He is said by Gregory of Tours (II.9) to have launched his attack on Tournai through the Carbonaria Silva from a fort named Dispargum, which was in "Thoringia". The most common interpretations of these names are neither in Salian Batavia nor in Toxandria.

In 451, Chlodio's opponent Flavius Aëtius, de facto ruler of the Western Roman Empire, called upon his Germanic allies on Roman soil to help fight off an invasion by Attila's Huns. Franks answered the call and fought in the battle of the Catalaunian Fields in a temporary alliance with Romans and Visigoths, which de facto ended the Hunnic threat to Western Europe.

The Notitia dignitatum listing Roman military units in the 5th century mentions the Salii iuniores Gallicani based in Hispania, the Salii seniores based in Gaul. There is also record of a numerus Saliorum.[17]

While their relationship to Chlodio is uncertain, Childeric I and his son Clovis I, who gained control over Roman Gaul were said to be related, and the legal code they published for the Romance speaking country between the Loire and the Silva Carbonaria, a region the Franks later called Neustria, was called the Salic law.[18] Their dynasty, the Merovingians, were named after Childeric's father Merovech, whose birth was associated with supernatural elements.[19] Childeric and Clovis, were described as Kings of the Franks, and rulers of the Roman province of Belgica Secunda. Clovis became the absolute ruler of a Germanic kingdom of mixed Galloroman-Germanic population in 486. He consolidated his rule with victories over the Gallo-Romans and all the other Frankish tribes and established his capital in Paris. After he had beaten the Visigoths and the Alemanni, his sons drove the Visigoths to Spain and subdued the Burgundians, Alemanni and Thuringians. However, after 250 years of this dynasty, marked by internecine struggles, a gradual decline occurred. The position in society of the Merovingians was taken over by Carolingians, who came from a northern area around the river Maas in what is now Belgium and southern Netherlands.

In Gaul, a fusion of Roman and Germanic societies was occurring. During the period of Merovingian rule, the Franks began to adopt Christianity following the baptism of Clovis I in 496, an event that inaugurated the alliance between the Frankish kingdom and the Roman Catholic Church. Unlike their Gothic, Burgundic and Lombardic counterparts, who adopted Arianism, the Salians adopted Catholic Christianity early on; giving them a relationship with the ecclesiastical hierarchy, and their subjects in conquered territories.

The division of the Frankish kingdom among Clovis’s four sons (511) was an event which would repeat in Frankish history over more than four centuries. By then, the Salic Law had established the exclusive right to succession of male descendants. However, this principle turned out to be an exercise in interpretation, rather than the simple implementation of a new model of succession. No trace of an established practice of territorial division can in fact be discovered among Germanic peoples other than the Franks.

>>4674831

Tanit

The graphic evolution of crita to fleur-de-lis was accompanied by textual allegory. By the late 13th century, an allegorical poem by Guillaume de Nangis (d. 1300), written at the abbey of Joyenval at Chambourcy, relates how the golden lilies on an azure ground were miraculously substituted for the crescents on Clovis' shield, a projection into the past of contemporary images of heraldry. Through this propagandist connection to Clovis, the fleur-de-lis has been taken in retrospect to symbolize all the Christian Frankish kings, most notably Charlemagne.

The fleur-de-lis' symbolic origins with French monarchs may stem from the baptismal lily used in the crowning of King Clovis I.[25] The French monarchy possibly adopted the Fleur-de-lis for its royal coat of arms as a symbol of purity to commemorate the conversion of Clovis I,[26] and a reminder of the Fleur-de-lis ampulla that held the oil used to anoint the king. So, the fleur-de-lis stood as a symbol of the king's divinely approved right to rule. The thus "anointed" Kings of France later maintained that their authority was directly from God. A legend enhances the mystique of royalty by informing us that a vial of oil—the Holy Ampulla—descended from Heaven to anoint and sanctify Clovis as King,[27] descending directly on Clovis or perhaps brought by a dove to Saint Remigius. One version explains that an angel descended with the Fleur-de-lis ampulla to anoint the king.[28] Another story tells of Clovis putting a flower in his helmet just before his victory at the Battle of Vouillé.[20] Through this connection to Clovis, the fleur-de-lis has been taken to symbolize all the Christian Frankish kings, most famously Charlemagne.

In the 14th-century French writers asserted that the monarchy of France, which developed from the Kingdom of the West Franks, could trace its heritage back to the divine gift of royal arms received by Clovis. This story has remained popular, even though modern scholarship has established that the fleur-de-lis was a religious symbol before it was a true heraldic symbol.[29] Along with true lilies, it was associated with the Virgin Mary, and in the 12th century Louis VI and Louis VII started to use the emblem, on sceptres for example, so connecting their rulership with this symbol of saintliness and divine right. Louis VII ordered the use of fleur-de-lis clothing in his son Philip's coronation in 1179,[30] while the first visual evidence of clearly heraldic use dates from 1211: a seal showing the future Louis VIII and his shield strewn with the "flowers".[31] Until the late 14th century the French royal coat of arms was Azure semé-de-lis Or (a blue shield "sown" (semé) with a scattering of small golden fleurs-de-lis), but Charles V of France changed the design from an all-over scattering to a group of three in about 1376.[a][b] These two coats are known in heraldic terminology as France Ancient and France Modern respectively.

Fleur-de-lis on an old concrete wall

In the reign of King Louis IX (St. Louis) the three petals of the flower were said to represent faith, wisdom and chivalry, and to be a sign of divine favour bestowed on France.[32] During the next century, the 14th, the tradition of Trinity symbolism was established in France, and then spread elsewhere.

In 1328, King Edward III of England inherited a claim to the crown of France, and in about 1340 he quartered France Ancient with the arms of Plantagenet, as "arms of pretence". [c] After the kings of France adopted France Modern, the kings of England adopted the new design as quarterings from about 1411.[33] The monarchs of England (and later of Great Britain) continued to quarter the French arms until 1801, when George III abandoned his formal claim to the French throne.

King Charles VII ennobled Joan of Arc's family on 29 December 1429 with an inheritable symbolic denomination. The Chamber of Accounts in France registered the family's designation to nobility on 20 January 1430. The grant permitted the family to change their surname to du Lys.

Jesus Christ, whoever you are, keep posting. Please add some commentary too. Your pictures are most appreciated!!!

>>4677428

it's all connected. Look at the details. This goes back all the way to King Solomon and his temple. Ask who build that temple? then ask whom they worshiped?

>>4674709

Kek!

They're all fucking DEAD and I'm not.

They can't say a THING, but I can.

FUCK these FUCKING FUCKERS.

SERIOUSLY

>>4677542

Go on, you glorious asshole

>>4677542

kadmus killing the dragon?

not sure if related but worth a look.

"In the Classical era, it[clarification needed] was regarded by Athenians as one of the notable characteristics of the Athenian character. Metis was the one who gave Zeus a potion to cause Cronus to vomit out Zeus' siblings.[4]

Metis was both a threat to Zeus and an indispensable aid:[5]

Zeus lay with Metis but immediately feared the consequences. It had been prophesied that Metis would bear extremely powerful children: the first, Athena and the second, a son more powerful than Zeus himself, who would eventually overthrow Zeus.[6]

In order to forestall these dire consequences, Zeus tricked her into turning herself into a fly and promptly swallowed her.[7] He was too late: Metis had already conceived a child. In time she began making a helmet and robe for her fetal daughter. The hammering as she made the helmet caused Zeus great pain, and Hephaestus either clove Zeus's head with an axe,[8] or hit it with a hammer at the river Triton, giving rise to Athena's birth. Athena leaped from Zeus's head, fully grown, armed, and armoured, and Zeus was none the worse for the experience.

The similarities between Zeus swallowing Metis and Cronus swallowing his children have been noted by several scholars. This also caused some controversy in regard to reproduction myths and the lack of a need for women as a means of reproduction.[9]

Hesiod's account is followed by Acusilaus and the Orphic tradition, which enthroned Metis side by side with Eros as primal cosmogenic forces. Plato makes Poros, or "creative ingenuity", the child of Metis.[10] Stephen Fry mentions this at length in his popular book Mythos"

>>4677753

Metis = mother of Athena.

Owl = symbol of Athena

>>4677984

Possible grandson of Noah? Where did the ark "presumably" land? Why has there been a very hard effort to decimate the descendants of Hayk/ Haïg? or disperse them? Forgotten by history?

>>4678389

Electrums are the VERY FIRST printed coins = money

>>4678360

Where is Nimrud Dag located?

Coincidence?

Time difference.

http://www.kemet.org/taxonomy/term/72

http://www.geocities.ws/isissanctuary/temple35.html

Aset

Aüset

ASSET=MONEY=MAMMON

Water-pouring goddesses.

Plants need water.

>>4677753

…going upon the hypothesis of an electric universe and a closer planetary configuration, this is symbolic of Mars & Venus' plasma exchanges, during the reign of Saturn as the sun.

I assume this the origin of many familiar symbols, today; Owl, spade, heart, as examples.

For anyone who wants to download the decrypted 9/11 files, i have them uploaded at

https://t.me/leaking911

Layer_2 is segmented because of size uploading limits

>>3989061

interesting

The Nordic god Odin has only one eye.

I wonder if that is tied to the black eye all the cabals have as a marker.

They can't all go around with one eye missing so they just get a black eye as an initiation.

>>4679740

I think the Phoenicians won the second Punic war and took over Rome, then they burned everyone that remembered what really happened. I think the whole dark ages not happening really makes a lot of sense if you consider what really happened after the Punic wars. So like the 1400s was actually only 100 years or so after Caesar and Jesus, Caesar was the last person that stood up against them, the Holy Roman emperors of Germany were the Roman emperors, and the stories of Viking raids was possibly as hired mercenaries during the Punic wars.

>>4693098

dig.dig.dig. history is not what you are thought. Archeology is PROOF not history. HIstory is distorted for a specific reason = they are hidding something BIG

>>4696577

You are correct. We refer to them as JEWS but they are hidding what & who they really are. There is a secret behind it.

>>4696813

Not much of a secret. They are Babylonian Pharisees, which their oral traditions made up the Jewish Talmud

Q drops regarding the babylonian eye of Ra explained in 10 minutes.

This is the truth that the enemy doesn’t want you knowing. Ask yourself, in a nation of Christians, why are these simple dots never connected? Is someone suppressing this information? Who?? Answer: (((them)))

This is the most informative 10 minutes u will spend all year.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X-ZA8doZWWw

>>4696872

i already know this but it's still too shallow. i've dug deeper and found mind blowing stuff. Dig, go deeper, there is more, so much more, and it's HUGE.

the movie is called 10 000 B.C. and they were building pyramids in it. yet to the "official main stream historical" lies they were built = "Most were built as tombs for the country's pharaohs and their consorts during the Old and Middle Kingdom periods. The earliest known Egyptian pyramids are found at Saqqara, northwest of Memphis. The earliest among these is the Pyramid of Djoser, which was built c. 2630–2610 BC during the Third Dynasty"

Planting seeds again in our heads to distort or HIDE the true history

>>4700938

>>4701037

Qana & Cana/ Kana/ Khirbet Kana

Geographical location of Qana?

Geographical location of Cana/ Kana/ Khirbet Kana?

2 Qanas/ Kanas?

What does Khirbet mean in arabic?

Which one is the real Qana/ Kana?

There's a reason why women weren't allowed in the sciences, etc., until only recently. It's because the male fraternities such as the Illuminati and Freemasons and Jesuits were all exclusively male. They simply couldn't trust any women to go along with "The Big Lie"

>>4700405

Some say it's a medieval forgery. Some say it's really Jesus. Some say it's both medieval AND really Jesus.

>>4701474

WHY some say?

Isn't that a SPIN?

Why are they trying to confuse us?

Don't they use the same tactics now with the Pizzagate subject?

>>4701421

Kinda true. no offense to women. But don't THEY transmit the "power" through the women?

Q keeps on telling us to watch the wives as well, why is that?

Building off my previous posts.

>>4011529

>>4703846

Pictures on pause because this video is important!! We have a verified evidence that supports a link between the water on Earth and the planet Saturn. I've actually come across this information a few years back and was having trouble finding the link which I originally read back in 2016, I believe. It may have got scrubbed, but I really don't know. That does happen a lot where one study will report it's findings, then a later study will back the claims, or dispute. Either way, that's not important because we have this, now. Here's the link, which prompted the video.

https://phys.org/news/2018-12-saturn-satellites-earth-moon-phoebe.html

So, basically there's a chemical signature in our water. Hydrogen is composed of one proton and one electron, no neutron. Deuterium does have that neutron, which in turn gives the atom more mass (this is why they refer to it as "Heavy Water"). Overall, Deuterium behaves in a similar fashion as Hydrogen would, and an Oxygen atom doen't care what's in the nucleus, as long as there's a free electron to hook up with. Different environments will have different amounts of Deuterium and Hydrogen available, which leads to a "signature" in the water.

Scientists have been "puzzled" and "perplexed" about the origins of the water found on Earth. If you don't believe me, search the topic. Too much to get into here. The point is, there is a distinct connection between the water on Earth and the water surrounding the planet Saturn. In reality, it's just another one of many "coincidences" that links the two planets.

Now, there's obviously a lot more to the story, since Saturn is pretty far away. The Polar Configuration touches on the subject of how we may have got from Point A to Point B. There are several catastrophic accounts that can be found in every culture and religion from around the world. They will help explain this. The symbols are going to come into play, as well. The Thunderbolts Project is still building on their theories, and Wal even addresses this in another recent video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fjcPguafug

This isn't the first time he has talked about "Proto-Saturn". I'm going to build upon this situation further. I'm pretty sure I'm sitting on a significant piece of the puzzle, and I want to get it out to you all, rather than sit and wait to publish this or whatever. I'm not here to promote anything. However, I do give some props along the way.

So, Wal mentions what life would be like on Earth during these times of intense flaring of the dwarf star, Saturn. I don't think it was nearly as bad as some may think. I'm going to prove that is possible. Saturn ruled during the time of the Golden Age. How could that be possible if the star was flaring up in such a violent fashion? There is a logical solution, and you have to take several things into account.

https://www.space.com/42196-red-dwarf-star-hazflare-bad-news-life.html

I'm glad to see that there are a lot of ancient megalithic ruins on this thread. I've looked at them a lot. One of the more perplexing things we encounter is the largest size blocks on the bottom. Also, the old stuff does look pretty technologically advanced, too. So, the question I have to ask to Giorgio Tsukalos, "Did the Aliens suddenly get smaller?" OR. . . "Were the people larger, exposed to less Gravity (which makes the blocks lighter, btw), and living as an advanced race for quite some time, before a series of catastrophic events, which resulted in eventual loss of this technology and a dramatic change to the cosmic environment?". I know it's a mouthful, but it makes more sense when you think about it.

First off, on top of our DNA's ability to adapt to different environments, on the fly (Look up Epigenetics), a flaring Saturn would have exposed life to some intense radiation. This would speed up the process of "evolution". I'll get further into the details in another post. Basically, anywhere the conditions are right for life, it's going to come to be. "Consider the vastness of Space". Even if our race was created by aliens, the aliens would have to be alive, therefore. . . It's just how things work. Life is. From the looks of things, Life has been on this planet for awhile. At one point in time it was Larger. If humans existed alongside dinosaurs, it would be logical to conclude they, too, would be bigger under such conditions. We see evidence to support the claim. We here myths about giants. That's not really why I'm here today, but I'm just saying. . .

>>4706431

Fucking duschbag! Queens B. Rhapsody is a fucking GYPSY you piece of shit American! Step the fuck off US soil and expereince he real world.

My god curse your children and family for your pure bullshit. Please my your dna be removed from planet earth to make the human race a better place. FU

>>4706431

>>4706316

>>4706214

May Allah find you and prove their justice for your fucking slander mother fucker! Please end all your dna bloodline so others do not have to do it to make the world a better place.

Hope you children harm in front of your eyes for fuckng with freddie mother fucker.

So all this magic and tarot cards and astrology stuff is real? It's not a conspiracy theory?

>>4701671

My take is that the only women who would be allowed on the inside would be high ranking occultists. We'd think of them as witches. Think Helena Blavatsky of Theosophy, basically the female Aleister Crowley.

>>4716095

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>>4715954

>>4716835

>The Bible has many hints that the tribe of dan is evil and as a result many biblical scholars over thousands of years have predicted that the antichrist will come from the tribe of dan.

http://ethnicelebs.com/ruth-bader-ginsburg

Birth Name: Joan Ruth Bader

Place of Birth: Brooklyn, New York City, New York, U.S.

Date of Birth: March 15, 1933

Ethnicity: Ashkenazi Jewish

https://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/king-tuts-dagger-came-from-space-discover-researchers

Researchers also think that this finding adds special meaning to the term “iron from the sky" which was a hieroglyph found in ancient Egyptian texts.

Sorry I posted it in the wrong place but I cant figure this board out! I keep trying to post and it says the thread is full.

>>4716853

That back to the future picture is amazing. There's NO REASON they had to have that there, considering the whole town was a set.

>>4716853

Brotherhood of Man

Motörhead

Now, your time has come, a storm of iron in the sky

War and murder come again, lucky if you die

No way to rescue destiny, scream and curse in vain

You will never be remembered, no-one knows your name

When the music changes then all is broken down

Mighty cities laid to ruin, burning to the ground

Murder is become the law; you cannot make a stand

Chaos rules the world, now mortal, brotherhood of man

You cannot hide the truth from me, I know what's in your heart

Greed and jealousy, each equal, all your days now dark

Mighty mountains fall in dust, the world falls into Hell

Faith in lying prophets, no-one to lift the spell

Monsters rule your world, are you too scared to understand?

You shall be forever judged and you shall surely hang

We live and scrape in misery; we die by our own hand

And still we murder our own children, brotherhood of man

Blood on all our hands, we cannot hope to wash them clean

History is mystery, do you know what it means?

Slaughter, kill and fighting still and murdered where we stand

Our legacy is lunacy, brotherhood of man

We are worse than animals, we hunger for the kill

We put our faith in maniacs, the triumph of the will

We kill for money, wealth and lust, for this we should be damned

We are disease upon the world, brotherhood of man

Brotherhood Of Man

John Larroquette

You see, Wally, even though we're all apart of this cold, corporate setup,

Deep down, under our skins, there's flesh and blood,

But we're all brothers.

Now you may join the Elks, my friend,

And I may join the Shriners,

And other men may carry cards as members of the Diner's.

Still others wear a golden key or small Greek letter pin.

But I have learned there's one great club

that all of us are in.

There is a

brotherhood of man.

A benevolent brotherhood of man!

A noble tie that binds all human hearts and minds

Into one brotherhood of man.

Your lifelong membership is free;

Keep agivin' each brother all you can.

Oh, aren't you proud to be in that fraternity?

The great big brotherhood of man!

So, Wally, I want you to remember that before you consider firing Mr. Bigley.

Whoa, whoa, who's considering THAT?!

You see, Wally, I know what's on your mind-

You'd like to clear out the whole crowd from top to bottom!

That's the obvious move!

But STOP, and think

One man may seem incompetent, another not make sense,

While others look like quite a waste of company expense.

They need a brother's leadership,

So please don't do them in.

Remember: mediocraty

Is not a mortal sin.

There (We're)

In (in)

The (the)

Brotherhood of man.

Dedicated to giving all we can!

Oh, aren't you proud to be in that fraternity?

The great big brotherhood of man!

No kidding!

Is there really a brotherhood (Yes, you're a brother!)

of man? (You are a brother!)

A benevolent brotherhood of man? (Oh, yes, sir, yes!)

A noble tie that binds all human hearts and minds

Into one brotherhood of man?

Your lifelong membership is free;

Keep agivin' each brother all you can.

Oh, aren't you proud to be in that fraternity,

the great big Brotherhood of Man?

Ohhhh, that noble feeling

feels like bells are pealing!

Down with double-dealing

Ohhhh, brother!

You, you've got me!

Me, I've got you!

You!

Ohh, that noble feeling

Feels like bells are pealing!

Down with double-dealing

Ohhh, brother!

You, you've got me!

Me, I've got you!

You!

Ohhh, that noble feeling,

Feels like bells are pealing!

Down with double-dealing,

Ohhh, brother!

You, you've got me!

Me, I've got you!

You!

Your lifelong membership is free;

Keep agivin' each brother all you can.

Oh, aren't you glad to be in that fraternity?

The great big brotherhood of man!

Man!

Mannn!

>>4716853

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>>4750849

"Almond Joy's got nuts, Mounds don't"

One of the Mounds behind the sweeper is upside down.

The WW1 Conspiracy

MUST WATCH

Pt 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tclAbWvBt70

Pt 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-5kWX7rYuU

Pt 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzVd7XCTu28

>>4750840

It's awesome to see another anon dig about this. i've been holding back a lot of info cause it's going to be a HUGE shock and many won't accept it.

Let me give you more hints: Heliopolis is built not far from the 33 degree parallel (is that what you call them?) and the altar of the 3 main temples are ALL facing East = the rising sun.

As for the temple of Jupiter, it has a ver ODD specifity = what's underneath it.

See that site was an old TELL (that is how the archeologists refered to it) as in a big mound like a small hill which is ruins from a VERY old time, a very old settlement of some sort. the entire big court and the temple of jupiter were built right on top of that "Tell". A few years ago, there was some shallow excavations in the almost the center of the big court where they wouldn't damage the infrastructure of the sanctuary if they dug there. And the archeologists found a HUGE number of pottery fragments. For many reasons, lack of fundings for example, they stopped digging, but left the whole open, so that visitors can see there is an older layer under the level we stand upon.

Why am i talking about this? because the Trilithon was built on the edge of that "Tell". That is why i've asked previously how did they managed to lift up those huge stones to that level. The site seems to be older than anyone thought it was.

And there is more = the entire Beqaa valley is dotted with ancient "Tells" and even some Dolmens. Only the archeologists know where everything is. You can see some of them while driving around, but most people think they are just little hills here and there.

The sanctuary of Jupiter and the pyramid in Giza share a lot of oddities. Just like in the pyramid, the smaller stones where built around the monolith…. facing East… and there is one more common point but i'm gonna hold onto that for now. My appologies.

so i advise you to dig and connect all of my drops. There is something. It's a like spider web. We can reconstruct the distorted history they have been spoon feeding us for so long. it's totally fascinating how everything connects. and we can even have glimpses to what was before the big flood. i've got a big theory about that, but it's just a theory for now, i hope archeology will give me facts, proofs and evidence so i can support my theory, till now, it is helping me a lot.

oh and the decoration = sculptures you see around in the sanctuary, it was rightly interpreted, they got 99% of them right and they identified correctly who they represent and what it means. the archeologist have been quietly doing a great job. Don't look for info in the main strem research places, there is a publication done by the department of antiquities in Lebanon and they publish in it most of what they find, either the raw data of the digging and then the interpereation of the findings. that publication is called B.A.A.L as in Bulleting Academique Archeologie du Liban (if i remember correctly) there are articles written in many languages, mostly french and english. I hope it will help.

>>4752251

Thank you so much for your encouragement.

Let me give you a hand, i've dug a gold mine. i hope you can use the images i'm gonna drop to make those awesome connections you are doing

>>4752251

Have you seen this? There's 8 other long videos just like it.. This guy is incredible

>>4752453

>Hittites

1. The nation of Heta or the Cossack Goths. Russia, or the Horde, in Egyptian texts found upon Egyptian monuments.

1.1. The Hitians, ot the Mongols.

Brugsch begins his account of the XIX dynasty with the description of Hita or Heta, a great nation - the Goths, as we are beginning to realise, or the Russians.

However, it is possible that Brugsch himself suspected the blood relations of the Hita nation and the “Mongols”, without realising just how correct he was really. This is what G. K. Vlastov tells us about this matter: “Brugsch was referring to the Hiksos dynasty and the Hita (or the Heta), especially the latter, whom he suspects of having Mongolian blood, as we shall see later on ([99], page 75).

In Greek, Megalion means “The Great”, which once again identifies the Hittites (or the Goths) as the “Mongols”.

Apparently, Egyptian sources are referring to the history of relations between the Ottoman = Ataman Empire, or Russia (the Horde) of the XIV-XVI century. The Pharaohs are the Ottoman = Ataman Sultans, and the nations of the Heta nations are the Great Princes of Russia, also known as the “Mongolian” Great Khans.

As we already mentioned in in CHRON1, Chapter 7:7.3, according to Scaligerian history, the Hittites were “discovered in Asia Minor” as late as in 1880. Professor Archibald Sayes (and then William Wright) suggested to consider the land to the North of Palestine the “land of the ancient Hittites” ([291], page 21), basing their suggestion on the Bible and being certain that the Biblical “promised land” was located in the modern Palestine and not anywhere else. After that, some of the archaeological findings made here were attributed to “those very Hittites”.

N. A. Morozov wrote: <<Edward Meier believed that the Hittites were one of the ‘primary ethnic groups in Asia Minor’. He believes that their culture left behind the reliefs with lengthy noses, pointed hats and shoes with toes pointing upwards. But what made him identify these figures in such a manner? . . . The most interesting local emblems are as follows: the winged solar disc and the snakes similar to the Egyptian ones. Apart from those, we have the bicephalous eagle of the Byzantine kind, a two-sided axe and winged gods, clearly prototypes of the cherubs . . .

However, another discovery was made recently, which was thoroughly amazing . . . A study of the burial mounds in the Southern Russia yielded a number of similar findings. Thus, in the burial mound of the Chertomlytskaya Queen in the Kuban region of Russia archaeologists found a pointed hat of the Hittite sort. The nation that created such objects lived in the Maikop region, while in the Kiev province researchers discovered a bronze belt “doubtlessly” identifiable as belonging to a culture closely related to that of the Hittites. See G. I. Borovka, “Female Head-dresses of the Chertomlytskiy Burial Mound”, Courier of the Material Culture History Academy, 1921.

G. I. Borovka says the following in this respect: “The influence of the Hittite culture was still great enough to manifest for a long time and on a great distance . . . after the nation and the culture that created it had long perished” (2100 years later!) (as Morozov points out – Auth.).

Indeed, how can we withhold from being amazed at such great influence of the Hittite culture?>> ([544], Volume 6, page 1053).

http://chronologia.org/en/seven5/empire17_01.html

>>4752506

sorry. the ottomans are the descendants of 2 clans the banu Othman and the banu turkman.

I wasn't satisfied with what i was finding out online, so for 12 years i've dug in the old archives in a lot of places. i've got some copies.

There was a HUGE wave of migration, from what is now called Turkey to Europe and from Europe to what is now known in the middle East, this specific migration i'm mentionning (because there has been plenty of them) dates back to around the Hittites era. it went both ways.

As for the mingols, goths, turks, the migration of those came later on. you musn't mix the chronological periods. they are very distinct lines. and (i don't know how to say this) but there is a very distinct human physical features of each group. so this way it's easy to reconstruct when each group came in contact with the other.and don't forget, what is now called Turkey was a passage way, just like Phoenicia and Syria were. for a long long time i thought that specific geo location on this planet was a huge melting pot of culture and mostly human race = as in genetical features.

until i noticed something very peculiar while walking in the streets of Beirut. There are 2, only 2 races living there = 2 types of skull shape. It seems the population doesn't know, they are not even aware. and when i started connecting it to other spots in the world, i found "their relatives".

What i'm about to say is probably wild, totally crazy, but, i think i've found the missing 10 tribes of the 12 tribes of the jews as they call them, but i don't think they are the tribes of jews. i think they are the tibes of something else.

>>4752569

You're on the right track. I started with the bicephalous eagle almost a year ago and it led me down a rabbit hole that surfaced in Russia, aka Grand Tartaria. Which then led me to a fascinating guy, still living, named Antony Fomenko, who says that History is a verifiable lie and goes on for seven THICK volumes verifying his hypothesis. The maps and names and everything are all mixed up.

It's ABSURD at first to think that the Bible was written in the Middle Ages, that the New Testiment *HAD* to have been written before the "old". But then he shows you EXACTLY why this is the case.

For example, he proves that the ancient dynasties of the Roman Empire match almost perfectly the dynasties of the kings/judges of Judea in Kings/Chronicles, and further match almost perfectly the dynasties of Medieval Byzantine (which must be the original). Therefore, since Rome and Judea are phantom copies of the middle age Constantinople, they MUST be inventions of that age. Period.

How does he do this? Statistical analysis. He does this on many fronts. First, chronologically list the length of reign for each king. Amazing, isn't it, how each king's reign is the same, reign after reign, when you compare the 2nd Roman Empire/3rd Roman Empire/Judea/Byzantinum. Sloppy! Obvious! Second, collect 'indicators' within their reigns, such as a volcano exploding, revolution, death by poisoning, etcs, and score points for each ruler that exhibits these various characteristics. You'll be amazed to find that not only do the length of reigns match, but those that match also have a match on the characteristics scores. I should make it explicitly clear that of course they don't match 100%, they obviously have different Names and locations etcs, but the fact that they match so fucking close is impossible to ignore.

Third, he shows through computer analysis that "ancient" eclipses that have been described can ONLY match eclipses that occurred in the middle ages.

>>4752699

Have you considered Fomenko or heard of him? I'd be interested to hear you're taking on his thoughts on Ottomans as he has some pretty solid statistical research baking his claims. Note that if you "studied" history, you're studying Scalagerian history which is almost certainly a cabal lie.

See my post below yours, as you can't read the link I dropped unless you understand the context that Fomenko is literally saying we DONT know a THING about ANYTHING before 1500ad, and absolutely nothing before 1000ad