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c0d79f  No.1940204


>The universal sentiment of the Freemasons of the present day is to confer upon Solomon, the King of Israel, the honor of being their first Grand Master. But the legend of the Craft had long before, though there was a tradition of the Temple in existence, given, at least by suggestion, that title to Nimrod, the King of Babylonia and Assyria. It had credited the first organization of the fraternity of craftsmen to him, in saying that he gave a charge to the workmen whom he sent to assist the King of Nineveh in building his cities.

>That is to say, he framed for them a Constitution, and, in the words of the legend, this was the first time that ever Masons had any charge of his science. It was the first time that the Craft was organized into a fraternity working under a Constitution of body of laws. As Nimrod was the autocratic maker of these laws, it necessarily resulted that their first legislator, creating laws with his unlimited and absolute governing power, was also their first Grand Master.

We're going back, way back, to where this all began. Join us as we trace from the beginning to today, and identify the symbols throughout the ages and how they show the rise and fall of nations time and time again.

Could it be? Could the ancient cults of Babylon really have survived to this day? The answer seems to be a very loud YES, but somehow many are deaf to this. Could this be the cabal? The infamous (((they))) everyone fears? Join us as we decode and expose this great mystery!!!

Who was Nimrod?

What was Babel?

Who were the Canaanites/Phoenicians?

What is their history with Child Sacrifice?

Who is Moloch/Baal/etc?

How did they relate to the ancient Israelites?

What did Egypt have to do with it?

Did the Exodus happen? And who were the Hyksos?

What about that weirdo Akhenaten?

Was it sun worship? Or was it SATURN worship?

Were these people actually monotheistic?

What about India, and the far East?

Were there Giants?

What happened to Neanderthals? Cro-Magnon?

Who was Enki, Enlil, and Anu?

When was America really discovered?

Why the Red/White stripes?

Who were the Vikings?

What is the Phoenix?

What are the origins of Freemasonry?

What about other secret societies?

What really happened in the French Revolution?

Why is America littered with occult symbolism?

What is the Owl?

What is a Y Head? Could it be related to the double headed Phoenix?

And many other questions! The above hopefully inspired some thought.

The purpose of this thread is not just to answer these in isolation, but to show connections that tie it ALL TOGETHER.

If you can, please provide exact dates as much as possible as it would be cool to eventually compile a Chronology of this timeline.

Formerly Nordic World Order


Archived: http://archive.is/mob16

c0d79f  No.1941501

Some have mentioned Noahide Laws as a possibility for the "N", personally I don't see how that adds up to much but I'll post them here for the sake of it:

Genesis 9

God’s Covenant With Noah

9 Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. 2 The fear and dread of you will fall on all the beasts of the earth, and on all the birds in the sky, on every creature that moves along the ground, and on all the fish in the sea; they are given into your hands. 3 Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.

4 “But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it. 5 And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each human being, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of another human being.

6 “Whoever sheds human blood,

by humans shall their blood be shed;

for in the image of God

has God made mankind.

7 As for you, be fruitful and increase in number; multiply on the earth and increase upon it.”

8 Then God said to Noah and to his sons with him: 9 “I now establish my covenant with you and with your descendants after you 10 and with every living creature that was with you—the birds, the livestock and all the wild animals, all those that came out of the ark with you—every living creature on earth. 11 I establish my covenant with you: Never again will all life be destroyed by the waters of a flood; never again will there be a flood to destroy the earth.”

12 And God said, “This is the sign of the covenant I am making between me and you and every living creature with you, a covenant for all generations to come: 13 I have set my rainbow in the clouds, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and the earth. 14 Whenever I bring clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, 15 I will remember my covenant between me and you and all living creatures of every kind. Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life. 16 Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth.”

17 So God said to Noah, “This is the sign of the covenant I have established between me and all life on the earth.”

I don't see how such laws are unreasonable, personally. I think it's interesting that most people don't realise that the Ten Commandments were for the Israelite's only, and that Noahide covenant is for us lowly Gentiles.

I wager that the Torah itself is hugely inspired by Babylonian mythology and that Babylon is the original source material anyway.

Even though Nimrod is in the Torah, and Nimrod was certainly not his real name (it was his slander name given by those who hated him), it's still the name we know him by.

It's pretty obvious the sad, barbaric practices of the Canaanites are directly inspired and endorsed by Old Babylon

e217bd  No.1941716

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c0d79f  No.1941837


Love it.

I find it incredibly convenient that the wars of the new century have all been in Mesopotamia. What are they really looking for?

They looted the Iraq Museum.

They dethroned Hussein who thought he was Nebuchadnezzar III

There's MILLIONS of cuneiform tablets still untranslated and likely much more underground.

This leads me to think two possibilities:

1. (((They))) know what they're looking for and want to find it before others do so that they can hide it.

2. (((They))) need to confirm something important and are desperately seeking the answer to mystery of their own.

I actually lean towards 2 because of how Hitler had teams go around the world looking for certain relics and other esoteric things. He was looking for something important.

So.. what could they be actually looking for? What are they trying to confirm? Maybe it's some sort of way of contacting "the gods"? Some cipher?

e217bd  No.1941955

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clearly child hunting.

white rabbit?

where do the "stars" lead if you follow them?

e217bd  No.1941970


there was always lots of suspicion that saddam's WMDs were moved and hidden in Syria. I heard that from higher ups.

c0d79f  No.1942064



The verb מרד (marad) means to be rebellious or to revolt (2 Kings 18:7, Numbers 14:9). It occurs all over the Semitic language spectrum and about twenty-five times in the Bible. More than half of its occurrences cover scenes in which man revolts against man (and always Israel and its king revolting against an invading or occupying foreign force), and in the other half man revolts against God. Its derivations are:

The masculine noun מרד (mered), meaning rebellion (Joshua 22:24 only).

The feminine noun מרדות (mardut), also meaning rebellion (1 Samuel 20:30 only).

A semi-synonym of this verb is סרר (sarar), which also means to be rebellious, but which appears to place the emphasis on attitude rather than on action, as does מרד (marad).

So obviously his mother didn't name her baby "Rebel", so Nimrod is a nickname.

Sounds kind of like Renegade, doesn't it????

0f483d  No.1942212



e217bd  No.1942253

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Bugs' ears are a Y.


Nimrod good. The construction union rebelled…


More Nimrod as positive…and Antartica.

Shakleton's Ship names Nimrod.

c0d79f  No.1942365


How in the fuck is this anti-white?

There's no racism here, we're tracing down a belief system and a secret cabal. The cabal might have racial undertones but it's certainly not isolated to one single race.

e217bd  No.1942371


Gen 10:8 10 + 8 = 18 (666) 6+6+6=18 more coincidence? "And Cush begat Nimrod:(666… the number of his name) he began to be a mighty one in the earth.


e217bd  No.1942376


Ignore that anon. They lurk various side breads and shill hard.

c0d79f  No.1942438


I'm confused, are you insinuating that Nimrod was a whitehat? I highly doubt that.

Nimrod was a mighty hunter before the lord, yes. Nimrod had the cloaks that Elohim made for Adam and Eve, and this somehow charmed animals and allowed him to even talk to them.

But his name literally means Rebel.

From the link you posted:

Nimrod WAS "A MIGHTY HUNTER BEFORE GOD. He was the man choosen by GOD to eliminate the remnant of the giants that survived the flood. God even gave Nimrod a mighty bow to hunt them down with.

In those days the giants were considered as gods. Nimrod thought after killing them, he could use the same weapon against God's angels. He blamed the angels for what was happening to mankind at that time; the flood, the nephilim, etc.

The day the Tower of Babel was destroyed, Nimrod did try his mighty bow, given him by GOD, against an Angel that was watching the construction of the Tower of Babel.

That is the reason why people say Nimrod was against GOD; but he never was against GOD. He hated the Nephilim and he had to hunt the remnants of them. He knew the Nephilim used to be angels, so he thought if he could kill the angels he would probably save mankind.

DO NOT FORGET GOD's promise to Noah. The next time He will use fire to destroy the earth, instead of water. Nimrod thought that day was near; and that's why he tried to build the Tower of Babel, not to avoid a flood but to flee the fire.

c0d79f  No.1942450


Hah, funny. Maybe? How did they determine chapter/verse in the first place anyway?

e217bd  No.1942696


I'm just pointing to articles that claim he was the great name and then this Y-headed bunny flipped that. Does that mean the people promoting Nimrod before were whitehats, not necessarily. It's just an interesting point. Nimrod has always meant moron to me, but apparently before Bugs, that wasn't the case.

One hypothesis: Nimrod was a great King. He created a brick layers union and they became powerful and turned on him…basically starting socialism…and they raped children. Then they flip the whole story and blame it on Nimrod and Babylon.

That was an interesting link. I think the Rebel/Renegade thing is also interesting…I'm just not sure about the Babylon story…I'm open to all theories if it helps weed out the truth.

e217bd  No.1942768

It's just mafia…always mafia…some more esoteric with the adornments of religion or other dissociative tools to control…but nothing more at the architectural layer.

5f2268  No.1944354



Nimrod - One World Government/One language; God destroys and disperses

Tower of Babel - ziggurats, building temples reaching heaven, profaning God; EU parliament building; Parliament also means a group of owls;

Semiramis/Astarte/Ishtar - Sacred Prostitution Cult eg Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut

Babylonian Talmudists/Sumerian Swindlers/(((they)))

Old World Order - Corrupt authoritarian regimes/feudal system.

Old World = Europe

New World Order

New World = Americas

As intended by our founding fathers to be a governing system based on checks and balances (Legislative, Judicial, Executive branches). This governing system was to be implemented in the USA to govern the course of human events as well as to attract the world's best and brightest in order to maintain its position as the main hegemonic power (Manifest Destiny).

From recent history, we can observe the many nation-state revolutions that occurred all around the world during the late 18th to 20th centuries. Crafted from dispelling tyrannical and imperialistic regimes in place of liberty and rule by the people for the people this New World governing system can be found in almost every single nation today. Simultaneously during this time the fight was not over and for centuries the good men of the world fought to maintain the New World Order as it should be. However, certain Old World families conspired to corrupt, subvert, and pervert the New World Order to maintain/reclaim their power and execute their agenda. Since the 20th century they have succeeded until 11/8/2016 and now we will set things right.

5f2268  No.1944389


(((They))) have also corrupted symbols of good for (((their))) own sake in order to confuse, manipulate, and trick the good men into fighting their own and will be routed out because of them.

c0d79f  No.1944460


My thought is that Nimrod was not a good person. Probably even thought of himself as a God. The Tower of Babel is actually a metaphor, and the languages aren't words, but symbols. Symbols once understood, became confounded. His people spread throughout the Earth, but know each other because of their ancient symbols and therefore "language". In this way he was able to preserve his evil religion throughout the ages. In the beginning they openly practised it, but something happened that forced it underground. This is where the mystery religions and secret societies originate from.

c0d79f  No.1944489



I should have read your post first! Yes this is I think correct.

However, it may be more likely they use evil symbols and trick us into thinking they're good.

At this point I'm not even sure what a "good" symbol is

c0d79f  No.1944642

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Obviously a biased Christian perspective on it, but interesting review of the notion

e6109d  No.1945202


On the name of Nimrod, Just about everyone fails catch the fact that, after the confusion of languages, the dude, overnight, had 70 different names. Many of the so called "gods" are, in fact, the same person.

The same goes for his wife, who's statue stands in New York harbor ( a "Gift" from the Frogs.) Columbia happens to be one of her names. Ishtar (Easter) being another.

When you start linking the names together and chasing things out, more and more things world wide start taking on a whole new perspective. You start realizing that we have been lied to, over and over again, many times unintentionally, by people that don't know any difference than the lies that they were taught to be true.

Needless to say, I no longer consider myself a Christian but a follower of Yeshua Ha Mashiach/ Jesus the Christ. He DOES live. He WILL lead you and guide you. But you have to ask Him to. Joining a club doesn't do it. Getting dunked or sprinkled doesn't do it. Asking Him is the ONLY way to establish a relationship with Him.

And there aren't but two sides. Only Your choice of sides will be what you are accountable for when it's all said and done.

Find Yeshua, while you still can.

c0d79f  No.1945578



In Hebrew, ^33 ; which the writer of Genesis connects with SSa, balal, " to confound," in reference to the confusion of tongues ; but the true derivation is probably from BAB-EL, " the gate of El " or the "gate of God," because perhaps a temple was the first building raised by the primitive nomads. It is the name of that celebrated tower attempted to be built on the plains of Shinar, A. M. 1775, about one hundred and forty years after the deluge, and which, Scripture informs us, was destroyed by a special interposition of the Almighty. The Noachite Masons date the commencement of their order from this destruction, and much traditionary information on this subject is preserved in the degree of "Patriarch Noachite." At Babel, Oliver says that what has been called Spurious Freemasonry took its origin. That is to say, the people there abandoned the worship of the true God, and by their dispersion lost all knowledge of his existence, and of the principles of truth upon which Masonry is founded. Hence it is that the rituals speak of the lofty tower of Babel as the place where language was confounded and Masonry lost. See Oman.

This is the theory first advanced by Anderson in his Constitutions^ and subsequently developed more extensively^ by Dr. Oliver in all his works, but especially in his Landmarks. As history, the doctrine is of no value, for it wants the element of authenticity. But in a symbolic point of view it is highly suggestive. If the tower of Babel represents the profane world of ignorance and darkness, and the threshing floor of Oman the Jebusite is the symbol of Freemasonry, because the Solomonic Temple, of which it was the site, is the pro- totype of the spiritual temple which Masons are erecting, then we can readily understand how Masonry and the true use of language is lost in one and recovered in the other, and how the progress of the can- didate in his initiation may properly be compared to the progress of truth from the confusion and ignorance of the Babel builders to the perfection and illumination of the temple builders, which temple builders all Freemasons are. And so, when in the ritual the neophyte, being asked "whence he comes and whither is he travelling," replies, " from the lofty tower of Babel, where language was confounded and Masonry lo.st, to the threshing-floor of Oman the Jebusite, where language was restored and Masonry found," the questions and answers become intelligible from this symbolic point of view.

c0d79f  No.1945787

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b2f977  No.1946496



Think: The Adversary; the Enemy (of GOD).

>Etymology: Nimrud > root MRD (Rebel) + "n" suffix = infinitive construction: THE Rebel.

http:// www.davelivingston.com/nimrod.htm

http:// mediamonarchy.com/2013/05/gilgamesh-is-nimrod/ [note sauce]

[2003] http:// news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2982891.stm

c0d79f  No.1946557



The legend of the Craft in the Old Constitutions refers to Nimrod as one of the founders of Masonry. Thus in the York Manuscript we read: "At y* makeing of y" Toure of Babell there was Masonrie first much esteemed of, and the King of Babilon y' was called Nimrod was A mason himselfe and loved well Masons." And the Cooke Manuscript thus repeats the story: "And this same Nembroth began the towre of babilon and he taught to his werkemen the craft of Masonrie, and he had with him many Masons more than forty thousand. And he loved and cherished them well." The idea no doubt sprang out of the Scriptural teaching that Nimrod was the architect of many cities ; a state- ment not so well expressed in the authorized version, as it is in the improved one of Bochart, which says : " From that land Nimrod went forth to Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and Rehoboth city, and Calah, and Resen between Nineveh and Calah, that is the great city."

c0d79f  No.1946667


That would make sense.

I'm hoping that we can not get lost in mythology and try to find the TRUE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. I think that's important to solving this puzzle.

So if Nimrod is Gilgamesh, and Gilgamesh is real, then that's important. We can then stamp a date on it and work forward from there.

I think it's fascinating that Gilgamesh was obsessed with conquering Death and becoming immortal. Perhaps he found a way by deifying himself in a cult? For all we fucking know, that kind of magic actually works and Gilgamesh really does live in some secret brain-in-a-vat deep in a Syrian cave (I kid! Or do I?)

c0d79f  No.1946884

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49c6dd  No.1946924

Operation Gladio


Blackmail system of Clowns

c0d79f  No.1947148

Freemasonry, started by the Canaanites… who were the Canaanites? They were the Phoenicians… Who were they? They pretty much collapsed the bronze age so that they could rebuild a monopoly of sea trading in the known world at the time.

The Phoenix Cabal.

b7cea2  No.1947897

Been trying to recall this for more than a week. And it finally dawned on me.

The greatest of the cities of the plains according to history. The only one laid completely waste.








Nun. Whale.



b7cea2  No.1947939


Nun (noon) is fish/whale.

It is said that it took three days to walk across Nineveh.


b7cea2  No.1948020


Ashur, the mighty hunter, founder of Nineveh. = Nimrod.

Book of Revelations.


http:// www.redmoonrising.com/Giza/raiders3.htm

b7cea2  No.1948148


Yes. Ashur, Gilgamesh, Nimrod, Osiris.

"The Beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the Bottomless Pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the Earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the Beast that was, and is not, and yet is.”

(Revelation 17:8).

b7cea2  No.1948205


Zahi Hawass and the tomb of Osiris.



http:// www.towers-online.co.uk/pages/shaftos3.htm

22142c  No.1948553


There can be no justice when Masons control both PD's and Judges.

Thank you Q for calling them out.

5f2268  No.1949306



Nimrod is the one of the founders according to early Freemasonry which you also posted about. From my understanding freemasons are concerned with establishing the third temple of solomon, amongst other things. First temple destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar II and second temple destroyed by Rome.

Modern Freemasons - Albert Pike - Luciferian Worship "Bringer of Light, Morning Star" - Rainbows are the entire visible light electromagnetic spectrum think LGBT symbol - Lucis Trust

Revelations 22:16

I, Jesus, have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Freemasons - What is their "great work"? - anti-catholic

Also secret societies within secret societies; Freemasons → Shriners → Royal Order of Jesters → SOBIB: Secret Order of Brothers in Blood

One can infer the acts performed based on the names there are also plenty of info online to verify what these groups do.

Rainbows are supposed to represent the convenant of God; good symbol being corrupted.

Canaan - Phoenicia - Carthage - Malta - Freemasons

Poor fellow soldiers of christ and the temple of solomon aka Knights Templar, they acquired much power and wealth to attract evil men; which led to the order to succumb to subversion, perversion, and corruption. I know about King Philip IV of France arrested Grand Master DeMolay and Co. on Friday October 13th 1307 accused of idol worship, homosex, spitting on the cross, and other profane acts. Pope Clement V issued Papal Bull on November 22, 1307 instructing Christian Monarchs arrest Knights Templar and seize their assets. They were not burned alive until March 18, 1314. Pope Clement V died about a month later and King Philip IV died later that year.

Low level templars were not convicted of those crimes. Knight Hosiptallers incorporated the Knights Templar wealth into their order and they have been in existence for almost 1000 years. Knights Hospitaller existed side by side to the Knights Templar but lacked their wealth, power, and prestige. Remainder of Knights templar joined Hospitaller or other orders. March 22, 1312 Papal bull abolished the Knights Templar and reorganized the order as Order of Christ (Portugal). This order was secularized in 1789 coinciding with the French Revolution date.

Friday the 13th "bad luck date"

November 22 is also JFK assassination date.

March 22 cabal date

Carthago delenda est


Organizations of substantial Power/Wealth attract evil men. Evil men seek to corrupt, pervert, and subvert those organizations to remain in control. The best organizations are based on hierarchy and as evil men infiltrate and climb the ranks they will promote their own into strategic positions within in the organization to maintain that control. What Q wants us to also understand is that because there are a few bad apples does not mean the entire organization is bad. Typically, you will observe that once you identify the bad you can easily cure the organization much like targeting a virus.

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I think so too!

From Previous Thread.


I think that this goes all the way back to the Egyptians.


The common function of the early civilizations (accepted by mainstream historians) is that they were there to serve the Gods.

I see keys, phallus worship, sun worship, pineal gland (third eye shiat), owl through ancient and modern art.

22142c  No.1949712

HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.

Luxor, the Source of Light.

I'm sure most here have seen this but maybe some haven't.

5f2268  No.1949987


Knights Hospitaller are now known as Knights of Malta

19a364  No.1952500



Isaiah 11:11. Cush as one of the nations where Lord recovered the “remnant of his people”.


It was in Mesopotamia that the first cities were built after the flood, and the first of these was quite naturally named after the very first city built by man before the flood—Enoch. Due to vagaries of linguistic permutation, this name has come down to us as Erech or Uruk in Sumeria. In all there were seven major cities built near the head of the Persian Gulf, leading to the name "Land of the Seven Cities" commonly found in the early mythologies of the world. These seven cities are enumerated in Genesis as those which were conquered by Nimrod, establishing the world's first empire. The earliest Babylonian legends tell of a conquering people who came up out of the Persian Gulf and established an empire from these cities. This seems to fit well with what we know of the movements of Nimrod in his early career. He was a native of Ethiopia and was widely traveled among the few populated areas of those days. When he set out to build himself an army of conquest, he recruited from his "cousins" the descendants of Sheba and Dedan who had come up through Arabia to settle on the Asian mainland at the Straight of Hormuz and on the Indus river in what is now Afghanistan (these people were the Dravidians who were driven southward into India by the later Aryan invasion). After raising his army, Nimrod ferried them up the gulf in the world's first naval armada, and conquered his empire.


If people could not communicate with each other, they could hardly cooperate with each other. This primeval confusion of tongues emphasizes what modern man often fails to realize: the real divisions among men are not racial or physical or geographic, but linguistic. When men could no longer understand each other, there was finally no alternative for them but to separate from each other.

If anyone is inclined to question this explanation of the origin of the major differences among languages, then let him offer a naturalistic explanation that better accounts for all the facts. No one has done so yet. Obviously a miracle was involved, but the gravity of the rebellion warranted God's special intervention.

Although the major language groups are so different from each other as to make it inconceivable that they could have evolved from a common ancestral language group (except, as noted above, by such a long period of racial segregation as to cause the corresponding races to evolve to different levels themselves), the very fact that all the languages can be evaluated by common principles of linguistics, and that people can manage to learn other languages than their own, implies an original common cause for all of them. Noam Chomsky, who is one of the world's foremost linguists, is convinced that languages, though completely different on the surface, reflect an underlying commonality related to the fundamental uniqueness of man himself.

Besides the identification of Cush where God will reclaim some of his people from in Isaiah 11, that is also when the "shoot from the branch of Jesse" is prophecized, 'whose reign would destroy all evil and bring peace to the earth.'


c0d79f  No.1952706

Jean Fourton discovered that Sigmund Freud was a free-mason, and that nobody knew it. This is a discovery of interest for the history and daily clinical practice of psychoanalysis as it puts a new light on work and life of the creator of psychoanalysis. To fill in of a missing page in Freud's biography, he publishes in 2012 the first book on the subject which is now a reference:[7] Freud franc-maçon (Editions Souny) soon to be published in English.

`transference' to Goethe.

What is known for certain is that Jung's great inspiration, his grandfather Carl Gustav, was born in 1794 and converted to Protestantism in his student years. Carl Gustav attended Heidelberg University where he studied medicine though his first love was poetry. His combative personality and taste for radical causes were almost his undoing, for at twenty-three, with his career barely started, he was arrested and spent a year without trial in the Hansvogtei prison. His political activities led him to befriend genuine revolutionaries, one of whom assassinated the Russian privy councillor Kotzebue; in the ensuing hue and cry a hammer and an axe were found in Carl Jung's rooms and he was held as an accessory. Once released, ruined and embittered, he made his way to Paris where he met the famous naturalist and traveller Alexander von Humboldt. Humboldt took him under his wing, found him a job in the Department of Surgery at the Hotel-Dieu and spotted him as a potential recruit for the Berne academy. When Berne showed no interest, Humboldt presented his protege's credentials to the new medical school at Basel, and secured a post for him. Jung left for Switzerland in 1820, took out Swiss nationality and made his career in Switzerland thereafter, becoming professor of medicine at Basel University in 1822.

Like his grandson, Carl Gustav was autocratic and pranksterish. Anticipating Gerard de Nerval with his lobster, he had a small pig as a pet which he took on walks as if it were a dog. A strong personality, active, brilliant, witty, voluble and a great organizer, Carl Gustav senior transformed the Basel medical faculty. Before he arrived the faculty had been in a bad way: for many years the anatomist and botanist Johann Jakob Burckhardt had been the only teacher, and between 1806 and 1814 not a single degree had been awarded. Greatly interested in psychiatry – Carl Gustav tried unsuccessfully to endow a chair in the subject at Basel – he founded an institute for psychologically disturbed and retarded children and spent much of his free time with his charges until his death in 1864. Eventually Rector of Basel University, he was an ardent Freemason, became Grand Master of the Swiss Lodge, published numerous scientific papers and wrote plays. He made great friends with the German theologian Wilhelm de Wette (1780-1849), like himself a political refugee, who had been dismissed as professor of theology at Berlin University for his radical sympathies.

So the two grandfathers of therapy were quite possibly masons! Freud is suspected, and Jungs grandfather was a fucking Grand Master!!

0f483d  No.1953639

>not the jews

>not the jews

>not the jews

>not the jews

>not the jews

>You know who is responsible? the nords

>fuck white people, goyim

96b461  No.1956421


It is likely that the city of Avaris was first settled in ancient times by the Phoenicians. The Phoenicians had settled at Thebes from the earliest times and since we understand the Phoenicians to be Aryans (Irish), as well as sun-worshippers, we are most receptive to the suggestion that they were the predynastic founders of Avaris and of other Egyptian cities.

— Michael Tsarion / <cite>The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 2</cite>

Not until Jacob in a somewhat obscure manner was told to call himself Israel was that name adopted and accorded to his twelve "sons:" but if we accept the explanation of Sanchoniathon, a Phoenician of Tyre, Cronus "whom Phoenicians called Israel" was king of Phoenicia, and it signified that these Chaldeo-Phoenician tribes were worshippers of Cronus-Saturn…for Jehovah was a far later importation. The name Israel has subsequently been misappropriated, for those Biblical Christians who term themselves Israelites in fact label themselves followers of a pagan deity

— Comyns Beaumont / <cite>The Riddle of Prehistoric Britain (quoted by Michael Tsarion)</cite>

The first thing to clarify when it comes to the "Israelites" concerns the origin of the name "Israel." This name was not original to the people mentioned in the bible whose center was Jerusalem. None of the cities of the Hyksos pharaohs and their people bear the title "Israel." The term originated with the Irish and with the Phoenicians who had erected prominent and sophisticated cities all over Eastern Europe, Asia Minor, and the Levant. The Phoenicians were originally of Irish extraction and they had some of their most important bases in Ireland and Scotland. Not only were the Phoenicians expert sailors but they made good use of the land bridges that once existed between Scandinavia and England, and between England and Ireland.

— Michael Tsarion / <cite>The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 2</cite>

[…] the Phoenicians were indeed extraordinarily gifted men. They were one of the first races to devise and employ a sophisticated alphabet, construct great cities and temples, make paper for writing, and sail the seas of the world. The fact is that they were Arya, or adepts of the highest order. They were master architects, astrologers, shipwrights, mariners, healers, and scientists. We believe the Phoenicians were, like the Scythians, originally from the West. They preserved of the secrets of Megalithic construction and many other ancient arts. They may have been the original builders of many temples along the Nile. This is what the Old Testament hints, and what a great deal of miscellaneous Masonic literature suggests.

— Michael Tsarion / <cite>The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 2</cite>

Heliopolis was on the Phenician side of the Delta, in the neighborhood of the district inhabited by the Jews.

— Samuel Sharpe / <cite>Egyptian Mythology and Egyptian Christianity (quoted by Michael Tsarion)</cite>

As our scholars have failed to see the difference between Israel and the Jews, they have completely confused the issue; and when they speak of ancient Hebrew they mean Phoenician. "The oldest Hebrew manuscript dates from AD 489, is a roll and was found in the Karaite Synagogue in the Crimea." The Targums version of the Old Testament does not date any earlier than the Babylonian captivity of the Jews, and it was written in the Aramaic Chaldee language,and even of that version there is not BC in existence. So when our scholars speak of the ancient Hebrew of the Israelites they mean Phoenician evidently, for they never have seen it written on a scroll, only on the Siloam inscription, the Moabite stone, and the Phoenician engravings of the East, the Mediterranean, Southern Russia, and Europe, particularly in Britain.

96b461  No.1956424


Neither the Phoenician nor the Aramaic possessed any vowels, therefore the pronunciations differed according to locality and age. The vowel signs of the Hebrew manuscripts were introduced by Jewish scholars between the fifth and ninth centuries AD. None of the manuscripts from which our Bible was translated are older than the fourth century.

— Fredrick Haberman / <cite>Tracing Our Ancestors (quoted by Michael Tsarion)</cite>

The first king of the Phoenicians was King Tur, from whom the Teutonic Thor was derived, and also the British Artur or Arthur.

— Michael Tsarion / <cite>The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1</cite>

The early Phoenicians were known to have referred to themselves and their kings by the term Got or Gott, signifying goats. This is where we derive the words god and good, and where place names such as Gotland and Goteborg, etc, come from. The Gotts were called the Goths by the Romans. These Caucasian Goths considered horned animals, such as stags and goats, to be sacred symbols of their people and gods.

— Michael Tsarion / <cite>The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1</cite>

[…] it was they [Phoenicians], and not the Israelites, who were the creators of the alphabet, the great temple builders, and the world's finest seafarers, astronomers, and adepts. What they still hesitate to accept is the Irish origins of the Phoenicians. This fact has been obscured due to the geographical dispersion of the Phoenicians. As we have said, this dispersion was a necessity after the Age of Catastrophe.

— Michael Tsarion / <cite>The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1</cite>

Many of the Greek gods and heroes were admitted to be Phoenician, including Heracles…Dionysus, Cadmus…Semele, the Cabiri, Oedipus, Phoenix, and many others. From Phoenix were descended the Greek heroes Minos, Sarpedon, Rhadamanthys, Phineus, Adonis, and his daughter Europa…Phoenicia is a very important part of many of the earliest Greek myths, along with much of the Greek language…One may begin with the poems of Homer, Hesiod and Euripides. Wherever such Phoenicians are described by the Greek writers, they were absolutely a white, fair-haired, fair-skinned people. Even the Roman poet Virgil in his Aeneid described the Carthaginian queen Dido, a Phoenician, as being blond and beautiful. While such may not have represented the norm, it certainly was the ideal expressed consistently throughout the poets

— William Fink / <cite>Classical and Biblical Records Identifying the Phoenicians (quoted by Michael Tsarion)</cite>

In Scripture Phoenicia was closely related to Edom, both meaning "red man"…They had, moreover, kings before Israel and were among the most highly civilized of the early races in the most distant prehistoric times

— Comyns Beaumont / <cite>The Riddle of Prehistoric Britain (quoted by Michael Tsarion)</cite>

96b461  No.1956426


There were two important reasons why the truth about the Phoenicians had to be suppressed and occluded. The first had to do with the fact that they were of Irish extraction, and the second was due to the fact that the Egyptians declared themselves to have inherited their civilization from the Phoenicians. Under no circumstances was this knowledge to become widely known. So the disinformation began to flow forth concerning this special and enlightened race. Almost everything we read about them is designed to deceive.

— Michael Tsarion / <cite>The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1</cite>

Only alternative historians Ignatius Donnelly and Comyns Beaumont accepted the truth of the matter and accurately set the homeland of the Phoenician race in Ireland and Scotland.

— Michael Tsarion / <cite>The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1</cite>

When we read in our popular histories of Phoenicia, we must never consider it as a national unity, like Egypt, Babylon, or Rome; for Phoenicia in this respect was different from any other country in history. Phoenicia never at any time was a nation under one government, but was merely a geographical designation

— Fredrick Haberman / <cite>Tracing Our Ancestors (quoted by Michael Tsarion)</cite>

It has been conceded by anthropologists and linguists that the alphabet came into the world from the mysteriously endowed race known as the Phoenicians.

— Michael Tsarion / <cite>The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1</cite>

One of the terms that the Phoenicians used to describe themselves was Bharat, Barata, or Parats. This was the name of one of their earliest kings, the Sumerian Brihat, or Bharat. We surmise that this king, like his seafaring people, were actually named after the land of their ancestors, namely Barata, Brita, or Britain. […] One of the most important Phoenician goddesses was known as Brit Ana meaning "Lady of the Waters."

— Michael Tsarion / <cite>The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1</cite>

The original Irish, who had survived immense cataclysms, knew they needed access to the rest of the world in order to survive. They knew this meant the development of a "navy." So, the navigators were created. They were the Phoenicians, the expert observers of the heavens and mappers of the world. Their sidereal knowledge was an extension of Druidic wisdom perfected over centuries in North-Western lands. This knowledge allowed the "Hyperborean" Phoenicians to expertly navigate the oceans of the world. Like later Vikings and Danes, the Phoenicians sailed to the East (and West) creating small settlements on the coasts of lands they visited, traded with, and mined. Because of their prolonged commercial interaction with Asians and Orientals, the Phoenicians' alphabet, as well as many other Phoenician customs and practices, were adopted. Eventually, at the time of the Roman expansion, and after their roving decreased, the Phoenicians co-meddled with races of foreign blood and slowly began to lose their own racial distinctiveness.

— Michael Tsarion / <cite>The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1</cite>

96b461  No.1956434


Thus the daring Phoenician pioneer mariners…and of whose great contributions to the civilization of Greece and Rome classic writers speak in glowing terms, were, I found by indisputable inscriptional and other evidence, not Semites as hitherto supposed, but were Aryans in Race, Speech and Script

— L. A. Waddell / <cite>Egyptian Civilization: Its Sumerian Origins and True Chronology (quoted by Michael Tsarion)</cite>

We concur with Professor Waddell's conjecture that the Phoenicians were not members of the Semitic racial family. The archaeological evidence clearly shows that they were, like the Irish, ethnically and racially Gothic, Nordic, Indo-European, and Caucasian or, as Professor Waddell preferred, "Aryan."

— Michael Tsarion / <cite>The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1</cite>

Solomon had good reason for assuring himself of active Phoenician support…no one disputes that the Phoenicians were masters at that time of both the Mediterranean and seas further to the east. They were the traders. No other people so boldly ventured onto the world's waters. No other people would even have dared sail around Africa. Characteristically, the Phoenicians had no land on which they settled, but rather a network of shipping facilities and numerous far-flung outposts at places across the known world

— Gruber and Kersten / <cite>The Original Jesus (quoted by Michael Tsarion)</cite>

96b461  No.1956437


In light of this, we do not accept as accurate the official dates given for the rise of the Phoenicians (a few hundred years BC). We agree with Comyns Beaumont and L. A. Waddell that their ancestry went much further back in time.

— Michael Tsarion / <cite>The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1</cite>

…the Phoenicians were unquestionably identified with Atlantis, and that it was probably from Atlantis they derived their god Baal, or Bel, or El, whose name crops out in the Bel of the Babylonians, the Elohim, and the Beelzebub of the Jews, and the Allah of the Arabians […]

— Ignatius Donnelly / <cite>Atlantis: the Antediluvian World (quoted by Michael Tsarion)</cite>

[…] there can be little doubt, given the philological evidence, that the Phoenicians and Sumerians were one and the same people. However, unlike Professor Waddell, we do not believe the original homeland of the Phoenicians and Sumerians to have been either Cappadocia in modern Turkey, or the Danube Valley. We believe it to have been Britain. It is, therefore, through the travels of the Phoenicians that the world's parent language dispersed. Additionally, from the Phoenicians came the first unadulterated stellar and solar religion and first organized pantheons, as well as other techniques of science, architecture, music, and art.

— Michael Tsarion / <cite>The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1</cite>

The new evidence slowly coming to light, regarding pre-diluvian civilizations in the West, and concerning lost land bridges, strengthens our strong belief in the Western origins of the Phoenician people.

— Michael Tsarion / <cite>The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1</cite>

An objective study of the evidence shows that Aramaic, Hebrew, Arabic, Syriac, and Armenian, as well as many other ancient languages, were enriched by the infusion of Phoenician religious and cultural elements.

— Michael Tsarion / <cite>The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1</cite>

…this new Phoenician script became the basis for the later Hebrew, Greek and Latin scripts, and so this aspect of Phoenician culture has become a central component of all Western cultures

— Ralph Ellis / <cite>Scota: Egyptian Queen of the Scots (quoted by Michael Tsarion)</cite>

The Phoenicians (or more correctly the Kab Ari) were one of the greatest maritime races in the history of the world. They were masters of the oceans and the world's most proficient architects, shipwrights, woodworkers, traders, and astronomers. There was not a civilization in ancient Europe and Asia that did not owe their existence to the influence of the Phoenicians. This was especially the case with the Egyptians. The civilizations of predynastic Egypt were founded by these mysterious people of unknown origin. The first dynasty of Egypt was made up of Phoenician kings, and the languages of the two countries are strikingly similar. The language of the Phoenicians was not, as most scholars are wont to believe and advocate, a dialect of Egyptian. On the contrary, the Egyptian language was derived from Phoenician.

— Michael Tsarion / <cite>The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1</cite>

96b461  No.1956442


It was Phoenicians who were commissioned by King Solomon to construct his temple.

— Michael Tsarion / <cite>The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1</cite>

Bel or Baal or Beal was their [Phoenicians] chief secondary God. Baal appears universally as a god.

— Henry Binkley Stein / <cite>Thirty Thousand Gods Before Jehovah</cite>

Phoenicia was in reality a small group of gods that ruled a Semitic people. These gods according to inscriptions styled themselves the Royal race.

— Henry Binkley Stein / <cite>Thirty Thousand Gods Before Jehovah</cite>

The greatest Phoenician god was Oel (identified by some as Kronus) and the commonest Scandanavian name is Ole Oleson or Ole the son of Ole. What might be termed Phoenician influence is quite apparent in Northern Europe.

— Henry Binkley Stein / <cite>Thirty Thousand Gods Before Jehovah</cite>

Having obtained a monopoly on purple dye, which was highly prized throughout the ancient world, the Canaanites advertised their control over this product by calling themselves Phoenicians, from phoenicia (phoenikiea), the Greek word for purple. From the outset of their history the Phoenician Canaanites always managed to get a monopoly on some essential product.

— Eustace Mullins / <cite>The Curse of Canaan</cite>

…the expansion of the Babylonian Brotherhood accelerated on the political and financial fronts…very name of Italy derives from the word bull - a Nimrod symbol.

Once again they travelled under the heading of Phoenicians and they settled in the north of Italy in 466 AD in what is now Venice. These Phoenicians then became known as Venetians. They built a powerful maritime (of course) and financial empire which was based on lending people money that does not exist and charging them interest on it.

— David Icke / <cite>The Biggest Secret</cite>

96b461  No.1956445



This Aryan expansion began as far back as 3,000 BC, probably earlier, with their seafaring branch, the Phoenicians. They were a technologically advanced people who have been marginalized by official history and this has obscured their true identity. They are fundamental to understanding where we have come from and where we are now. It was they who brought both their genetic lines and their knowledge to Europe, Scandinavia and the Americas, thousands of years BC. Their story is told by L. A. Waddell in his book, The Phoenician Origin Of Britons, Scots And Anglo-Saxons. Waddell was a fellow of the Royal Anthropological Institute and spent a lifetime researching the evidence. He shows that the Phoenicians were not a Semitic race as previously believed, but a white Aryan race. Examination of Phoenician tombs reveals that they were a long-headed Aryan race and of a totally different racial type to the Semites. The Phoenicians of the ancient world travelled by sea from their bases in Asia Minor, Syria and Egypt to settle in the islands of the Mediterranean like Crete and Cyprus and also Greece and Italy. It was the Phoenicians who carried the knowledge which later emerged as the civilizations of Minoan Crete, classic Greece and Roman Italy. They were also the ‘brains’ behind much of the Egyptian culture in this period, before it was hijacked by the reptilians. The Egyptians knew the Phoenicians as the Panag, Panasa and Fenkha. The Greeks called them the Phoinik-as, and to the Romans they were the Phoenic-es.28 There is a simple reason why the Egyptians depicted many of their gods with white skin and blue eyes in exactly the same way as other cultures all over the world did. This advanced race, called the Phoenicians, were white skinned and often had blue eyes the same as the reptilian-human crossbreeds and the same, it would appear, as the race from Mars. Thus we have the Scandinavian races, which were installed by the Phoenicians and other peoples of the same bloodstock and general location. It is also the origin of the Aryan ‘Master Race’ nonsense which obsessed the Nazis and the secret societies which created them. The hero of the Freemason secret society to this day is the mythical Hiram Abif, the so-called builder of King Solomon’s Temple. Abif is supposed to have been a Phoenician. The grandfather of the famous Egyptian Pharaoh Akhenaten, the father of Tutankhamen, was a Phoenician high priest. The Phoenix, the mythical bird of Egypt, was in fact the Sun bird of the Phoenicians, the emblem of the Sun God, Bil or Bel, and as it has been later symbolized, a peacock or an eagle.29 Evidence has emerged in recent years about pyramids on Mars, when the NASA scientists, Vincent DiPietro and Gregory Molenaar, discovered six enormous pyramids like those in Egypt in the Cydonia region of Mars.30 It would make sense that the same Martian race with the same knowledge would also build pyramids when they came to Earth, and the same can be said of the Anunnaki if, as Zecharia Sitchin speculates and I agree, they had settlements on Mars.

— David Icke / <cite>The Biggest Secret</cite>

c0d79f  No.1957070


No one's saying the Nords, you shill. Notice that Nordic was changed to Nimrod

But it's no doubt that the viking raids that destabilised Europe played a part in the grand plan.

0f483d  No.1957096

Where's the star of david you dirty jew bastard?

That's the most wicked symbol of all.

c0d79f  No.1957340


Wait did I read this correct? The author is actually suggesting that the Canaanites sailed all the way from Ireland to the Levant? This thread is certainly open to all theories, can you unpack this a bit more?

Is he actually suggesting that the Phoenicians weren't semetic at all?

>This is what the Old Testament hints, and what a great deal of miscellaneous Masonic literature suggests.

This part in particular intrigues me.

> These Caucasian Goths considered horned animals, such as stags and goats, to be sacred symbols of their people and gods.


> Almost everything we read about them is designed to deceive.

Considering how hard it is to get a straight story about these mysterious people, I can believe it.

> Phoenicia never at any time was a nation under one government, but was merely a geographical designation

True, which is what makes this especially tricky. You can't even really call them Phoenician, that's what others called them.. what did THEY call THEMSELVES? I've been under the assumption Canaanites, however that is just a geographical description. Would they call themselves after each city they're from? Yet they seemed to all act in coordination, even amongst their various ports.

> It has been conceded by anthropologists and linguists that the alphabet came into the world from the mysteriously endowed race known as the Phoenicians.

Conceded? What did historians hope for instead?

> One of the terms that the Phoenicians used to describe themselves was Bharat, Barata, or Parats. This was the name of one of their earliest kings, the Sumerian Brihat, or Bharat. We surmise that this king, like his seafaring people, were actually named after the land of their ancestors, namely Barata, Brita, or Britain. […] One of the most important Phoenician goddesses was known as Brit Ana meaning "Lady of the Waters."

HOLY FUCK. Ok so that answers my above question. So is this implying then that it all starts, somehow, in Ireland and Ireland founded Sumer?

> Eventually, at the time of the Roman expansion, and after their roving decreased, the Phoenicians co-meddled with races of foreign blood and slowly began to lose their own racial distinctiveness.

So certainly not the little fighting leprechauns we think of today

> Phoenicians were unquestionably identified with Atlantis

Brasil?! The vanishing island?? Didn't that LARP EyeTheSpy also mention that Atlantis is around there? Weird.

> The language of the Phoenicians was not, as most scholars are wont to believe and advocate, a dialect of Egyptian. On the contrary, the Egyptian language was derived from Phoenician.

That's mind blowing if true

> Phoenicia was in reality a small group of gods that ruled a Semitic people. These gods according to inscriptions styled themselves the Royal race.

Bloodlines. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if all the so called gods were just deified people of the forgotten past.

c0d79f  No.1957345


Saturn's on there.

c0d79f  No.1957366

File: 6464929875f6e5f⋯.png (2.19 MB, 1920x1074, 320:179, 1920px-Doggerland3er_en[1].png)

This one picture might explain all of our ancient history. Perhaps the so-called deluge wasn't all at once, it was a slow motion sinking of "an island"….

c0d79f  No.1957469

File: e4810b38058e9d9⋯.jpg (173.95 KB, 796x713, 796:713, Ramos Gilgamesh Nimrod.jpg)

Couldn't help but notice this… probably just a coincidence!!

0dc429  No.1957668

File: 5f3a83400721134⋯.jpg (76.21 KB, 773x425, 773:425, 5f3a8340072113434fa55e3097….jpg)


But why would the Catholic Church hunt down the Knights Templar if they were all part of the same mystery schools behind closed doors? Different agendas?

This is a common issue we run into, it's hard to decipher the real motive behind the actions. Every story is so biased and skewed to one perspective.

313038  No.1958063


Q Confirmation?

They have tied themselves to the pedostake of their own making. Trump stands in front of them with the lit match of Q in hand.

They stare at each other. Trump says, "Well punks, do you want to see how hot it'll get? Go ahead. Ask me to drop this match. Go ahead."

96b461  No.1958190


I posted it all because it was so full of assertions that I had not heard before.

There seems to be links to back up the assertions. I have not researched any of those.

JUst fascinated by all of it.

c0d79f  No.1958225


And thank you so much for doing so. This actually revives my Viking curiosity which I was struggling to find links for.

I'm hoping we can all agree to keep this thread scientific and just dump evidence and we'll figure out conclusions later.

Very often this data is only ever looked at by a competing sect which benefits from discrediting or twisting history in a certain way. I want to be as objective as possible and put all the possibilities on the table, then we can sort out which ones explain other ones.

96b461  No.1958229


>Wait did I read this correct? The author is actually suggesting that the Canaanites sailed all the way from Ireland to the Levant?

Would explain the freemasonry in Ireland, would it not, knowing that the Phoenicians had secret, secret, societies.

Canaanite religious mythology does not appear as elaborated compared with existent literature of their cousin Semites in Mesopotamia. In Canaan the supreme god was called El (𐤀𐤋, "god").[88][89] The son of El was Baal (𐤁𐤏𐤋, "master", "lord"), a powerful dying-and-rising storm god.[90] Other gods were called by royal titles, as in Melqart meaning "king of the city",[91] or Adonis for "lord".[92] (Such epithets may often have been merely local titles for the same deities.) On the other hand, the Phoenicians, notorious for being secretive in business, might use these non-descript words as cover for the secluded name of the god,[93] known only to a select few initiated into the inmost circle, or not even used by them, much as their neighbors and close relatives the ancient Israelites/Judeans sometimes used the honorific Adonai (Heb: "My Lord") in place of the tetragrammaton—a practice which became standard (if not mandatory) in the Second Temple period onward.[


c0d79f  No.1958293


Good question! If there's a central cabal pulling the strings of it all, then it makes some things pretty weird. Such as, why would the French King and Pope obliterate the Templars? Well, if they're "in on it", it could be part of the public facade, and would allow the organisation to purposely go "underground". Perhaps that's a bit of the phoenix in action, grow to a certain size then "die out", but not really because now you're reborn and no one suspects you. Interestingly that King/Pope died the very next year. Coincidence? That would seem to me like they weren't part of such a plan. That could be the case too, and the Templars merely allowed it to happen. But that's also kindof an insane scenario because that would mean DeMolay wanted to burn at the stake on purpose (isn't it awesome that Mickey Mouse is based on a guy who burned at the stake for devil worship?)

c0d79f  No.1958396

File: 7145c859e057796⋯.png (632.95 KB, 800x1055, 160:211, 800px-Early_Holocene_lands….png)


Man they need to DIG (literally) here. I bet there's some ancient ruins to find

c0d79f  No.1958607


>It would make sense that the same Martian race with the same knowledge would also build pyramids when they came to Earth, and the same can be said of the Anunnaki if, as Zecharia Sitchin speculates and I agree, they had settlements on Mars.

I love how this guy just casually throws in Reptilians in the middle of all this. But anyway, my biggest problem with this exercise getting interplanetary is that how the hell could we lose all that tech?

Yes there's a couple of OOPARTS out there that defy explanation, but just because the Greeks seemed to have had a very large, analog calculator "computer", doesn't mean much. Why were the Babylonians chiselling out millions of cuneiform tablets if they could have utilised papyrus and the Phoenician language if that was already in use? Afterall, these theories are claiming that Phoenician was the first language and Egyptian hieroglyphs actually descends from that language. I don't think that holds water, I don't know if there's really good evidence for that.

Peoplekind has had a pretty steady progression of eureka moments that explains the technology of each age quite nicely.

I suppose we could always claim that the Phoenicians kept their rayguns to themselves, but surely archaeologists would have stumbled upon one by now.

5f2268  No.1958664

>be good men

>come together

>form powerful organization

>pool wealth together

>gain more wealth/power cycle

>do good for fellow man

>be evil men


>corrupt, subvert, pervert

>do bad for fellow man

>be good men

>fight back

>good men win


this has been our history for a long while and what the most difficult thing to do is to figure out who specifically were the good guys and who were the bad guys but after thousands of years of misinfo, disinfo, and history being written by the winners it is even more convoluted albeit we are getting closer and closer to the truth.


Different agendas because there are multiple factions within those organizations. Think of this today with the Roman Catholic Church, the Church is a holy body, pure and good as it was, is, and will be. However, there are many satanic pedo-homo priests who are the antithesis of good that have successfully infiltrated to promote their own satanic agenda over the years. Does this mean the Roman Catholic Church itself is evil? No, just that it has bad apples; a lot of them. Matthew 16:17 "And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." I interpreted "prevail" as an end, as in when it is all said and done; the gates of hell can be observed as prevailing right now but (((they))) will not win in the end.


I wonder how much of the disciplines with regards to human origins and human civilizations are being and have been suppressed. I find it amusing and ironic that during the Trump admin certain "disclosures" occur, such as, locating organic matter on Mars or ancient civilization presence off the coast of Florida.



"We stand at the birth of a new millennium, ready to unlock the mysteries of space, to free the Earth from the miseries of disease, and to harness the energies, industries and technologies of tomorrow." - DJT inauguration speech

It will just be matter of time when we will accomplish this if it has not been accomplished already.

e70d71  No.1958756

File: f32cece20dc156f⋯.jpg (51.02 KB, 610x474, 305:237, Phoneicia Map(2).jpg)



Some interesting points, theories, & discussion.

Especially, that you have provided some references. IMO this is the key to this unpacking of history. We need to provide references so other anons can do their own research and add to the discussion. I have been researching and found some information to be false / fiction. A lot of this thread is just information without reference. It needs to be challenged and validated so we can move towards the truth.

Also, IMO scope too wide. Need to focus more on particular timeline or a more specific thesis.

The discussion here seems to focus on Canaanite / Phoenicia influences (Mesopotamia). And the power structure & symbolism that came from that area / people.


Yeah, the reptiles. wha? Can't just through that in there and reference Icke. Starts to slide. That needs a huge back story, none of which can be validated unless you see a reptile yourself.

https:// www.preceden.com/timelines/210128-world-civilizations

30a296  No.1959012


that is such beyootiful imagery

674345  No.1959087

File: 379a312e7e70c28⋯.jpg (319.1 KB, 545x535, 109:107, weirdoking.jpg)

OP, I had a tremendous laugh reading your words, "What about that weirdo Akhenaten?" because I had been reading about that very weirdo this morning! We're on the same track in terms of finding answers to today's "problem" buried in history. And buried (((they))) want it, and in their hands to control and master.

674345  No.1959559


<Bloodlines. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if all the so called gods were just deified people of the forgotten past.

My theory about the creation of gods during ancient times is a little more simple. Consider how easy it is for people to believe literally anything. Our history is replete with countless sweeping myths of strength, opulence, beauty, knowledge, powers etc, all of it an ideal based upon projections of people reflecting on what they don't have. In an age without modern day factual recording technology such as photography, video, sound… anyone (then and now) can believe and say anything about anyone/ anything, and who's to say they're wrong? All it takes a smile behind the untruth, and boom, you have a believer, and sure enough, the untruth spreads. So and so believed it, so therefore I believe it. And now you (threatening tone, leverage) must believe it.

Gods? Yesterdays sports and film heroes.

c0d79f  No.1961525


(Pay particular attention to verse 15-20)

Matthew 7

Judging Others

1“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

6“Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

Ask, Seek, Knock

7“Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.

9“Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! 12So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

The Narrow and Wide Gates

13“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

True and False Prophets

15“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

True and False Disciples

21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

The Wise and Foolish Builders

24“Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. 26But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.”

c0d79f  No.1961705


>I have been researching and found some information to be false / fiction.

If you discover anything is absolutely FALSE, let's sort that out. Post the reasoning for why it's false and we can move on past it. We need to collect the facts!

Could you imagine, if we could spread out 100 undeniable facts about this topic, and then make connections?

>IMO scope too wide

It is!! But I feel it's getting narrower.. the Nordic World Order was a good start but after considering a lot of the evidence there's no way we can say it started with them. The Phoenicians = Ireland idea is intriguing but needs more weight. Even still, those wouldn't be Nords.

The common scope we should be looking for is shared symbology and metaphors across these cultures. Tie them down to actual history and events. Build a timeline.

By identifying the bad guys, the good guys will emerge as those who tried to stop them (and were typically punished).


c0d79f  No.1961742

File: fc7d50d45079dc8⋯.png (684.32 KB, 995x720, 199:144, 0_NjXLrFfXXe1Kkx7X[1].png)


Bloodlines. I think this image was originally meant as a joke. But, it might not be.

And in my naivity I would think that ancient history would be an open book. Ancient secrets laid bare, because who cares?

The fact that it's shrouded in deep mystery and convenient omissions makes me think (((someone))) does care.. and why? After all this time, why would anyone care what happened 4000 years ago?

Why indeed! Well, we're going to find out.

96b461  No.1961759


One of California Attorney General Kamala Harris' (D) staffers was arrested last week and "accused of operating a rogue police force that claimed to exist for more than 3,000 years," The Los Angeles Times reported Wednesday.

Brandon Kiel, deputy director of community affairs at the California Department of Justice, and two others — David Henry and Tonette Hayes — reportedly face charges for their roles in the Masonic Fraternal Police Department

96b461  No.1961775


"Suspicions about the Masonic Fraternal Police Department — whose members trace their origins to the Knights Templar — were aroused when various police chiefs in Southern California received a letter in late January that announced new leadership for the group," the Times' Matt Hamilton wrote.

"Following an investigation, officials said, sheriff's investigators searched two sites in Santa Clarita and found badges, weapons, uniforms and law enforcement paraphernalia."

The Los Angeles County Sheriff's department said in a statement that the Masonic Fraternal Police Department was not a legitimate police force and that Kiel, Henry, and Hayes were arrested for allegedly impersonating police officers.

"Detectives conducted a thorough investigation in collaboration with several law enforcement agencies and determined MFPD was not a legitimate police agency," the sheriff's department said in a statement, according to NBC News.

The Times called attention to a website purporting to represent the Masonic department. The site claims the police department is widely respected and operates in 33 states.

"The Masonic Fraternal Organization is the oldest and most respected organization in the 'World.' Grand Masters around the various states are facing serious safety concerns for their Jurisdictions and their family members. The first Police Department was created by the 'Knights Templar's' back in 1100 B.C.," the site says. "When asked what is the difference between The Masonic Fraternal Police Department and other Police Departments the answer is simple for us. We were here first!"

Harris is the Democratic front-runner to replace Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-California) in 2016. Her office declined to comment to the Times but said Kiel had been placed on administrative leave.

c0d79f  No.1961925

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


Very true. Or comic book heroes.

I posited a theory in the previous bread about how Heliotheism is a scam (aka Monotheism).

When there were many gods there was more diversity of thought. There was a god of Music, and a god of Math, and a god of Agriculture. You could devote yourself to one of these and the other gods would be chill. This also served as a personification of a discipline. By deifying a craft, you could increase devotion to the learning and mastery of it. So it had a practical purpose.

Now some guy comes in and topples all your idols. Fucking asshole. And says all those gods are phonies, and here's the ONE TRUE GOD.

Now anyone who doesn't agree, is a heretic and can be killed in a fire. Does that God care about science? Or just want constant devotion? Look what happened to the Islamic empire.. one minute they're at the cutting edge of scientific discovery, then they say "WHOA WAIT ALLAH DOESN'T WANT THIS! LETS STICK OUR ASSES IN THE AIR INSTEAD!!!"

It's a sad turn of events.

It's pretty clear that this was all Sun-Worship too. Absolutely every monotheistic analogy relates to the fucking sun. Whats fascinating though is that nowhere in the Bible does it say there's literally only one God. In fact, God says he's jealous. So these folks decided that the Sun is the strongest and best God and will take care of every need, and the fools who worship other gods are fit to be taken advantage of because they're dumb.

But some go a step further and say that's not the sun, but SATURN. Video related.

674345  No.1962440


Unfortunately, a common strain among those cultures who believed in and worshiped many gods, one over-riding impulse became dominant, that of achieving money and power. The more you wanted that, the more you had to sacrifice to achieve it. Sell your soul and do the unthinkable.

As for specifics of what that unthinkable meant, pick among the worst. That was the common problem among those cultures. Whatever else was good (their math and science advancements), they still had fucking Moloch eating children, plus oppressive slavery and corruption.

One monotheistic religion did not come in heavy handed with a god to end all gods. Their underlying principles and rules of behavior were often superior, based upon justice, and love.

615e8f  No.1964643


The Saturn mythos freaks me out a bit.

In 2001: A Space Odyssey , the original monolith was on a moon of Saturn, not Jupiter.

Plus all the secret Saturn worship amongst the elites.

One wonders if it's all like a video game.

615e8f  No.1964762


This really whet my almond appetite. Looking forward to when you post what you got.

154ea9  No.1965106

File: a92506f9fb795fb⋯.jpg (153.04 KB, 640x640, 1:1, IMG_3273.JPG)

File: ce059a8600e274a⋯.jpg (151.33 KB, 640x640, 1:1, IMG_3274.JPG)

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dc49a6  No.1965429

Testing something.g out

c0d79f  No.1965848


Apparently Egypt didn't have slavery till the new Kingdom.. And no, the Hebrews were never enslaved. These were more just servants for aristocratic elites.

Babylon, on the other hand….

f241ee  No.1967349


Q mentioned a quote from Paradise Lost

"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist"

==> relating to your comment "they use evil symbols and trick us into thinking they're good"

c0d79f  No.1968033


When did Q say that?

e217bd  No.1969250

c0d79f  No.1969818


Fantastic work!! Did you already know about this stuff or were you inspired by these threads? That tanit logo couldn't be more clear, it's amazing!

That Gloria Vanderbilt art is obviously child sacrifice. There's no other way to see it. One thing I never noticed before is you can close the doors of it and then it just shows a sun and moon. Possibly to hide this profane display?! The sun and moon fall on different spots so I wonder what it would look like closed

3ce518  No.1969935

According to David Icke's research, Nimrod, Moloch and Baal are all interchangeable symbolic deities that represent Saturn (along with the central figures in most organized religions (without the knowledge of the participants) and the central figures in practically every secret society (the members of these secret societies do tend to know since it's pretty blatant, like with the Fraternitas Saturni)). Saturn was in a different position thousands of years ago, and all of the old sun-gods from ancient religions are actually based around Saturn, based on the symbolism of the surrounding rings and such. Satan also refers to Saturn. The constant shoving of Satanic symbolism in our faces is a way of pointing everyone's subconscious attention towards this one central thing that each of these symbols represents and thus giving them power (in a non-physical way). Saturn is meant to be the physical channel through which the Gnostic Demiurge can influence reality.

035508  No.1969958


Yeah, that was Verbal Kent in "The Usual Suspects"…. The line gets used again in the Schwarzenegger movie "End of Days"

e217bd  No.1970012


Lots of different things came together. A post in the main thread on tanit triggered my Autism. still digging.

The whole Mary and the Virgin Child, I'm thinking, isn't referring to the virgin as Mary…The virgin IS the child…

c0d79f  No.1970326

Interesting twist on the virgin child idea! Although I think the Virgin Birth concept is more likely. One guess I have is it's referring to angels fucking hot humans and having freak kids..

Anyway, I had a brainwave to investigate the Hebrews. I think this goes way beyond any one race, but obviously they wrote a lot about this evil in their own books so we can't avoid it. So who the fuck are they?


Basically they were highland nomads. Makes sense since YHWH seemed to always talk to them on mountains. The Tribe may have been ethnically distinct from the Canaanites which lends to the idea that the Phoenicians werent semetic in the first place.

Not sure where this piece fits in the puzzle but thought it worth considering.

They were mentioned in Egypt in 14th century BC

That Tanit logo is really fucking with my head… Never did I think these fucking "Phoenicians" would still be using such a logo..

c0d79f  No.1970380


Byth lym mo thym nociothii nel ech an ti daisc machon

Ys i do iebrim thyfe lyth chy lya chon temlyph ula.


Beth liom' mo thime nociaithe, niel ach an ti dairie mae coinne

Is i de leabhraim tafach leith, chi lis con teampluibh ulla.

In 1772, General Charles Vallancey, a leading Irish scholar of the day, published his famous work, "Essay On The Antiquity Of The Irish Language, Being A Collation Of The Irish With The Phoenician Punic Language." In his opening remarks he states, "On a collation of the Irish with the Celtic, Punic, and Phoenician languages, the strongest affinity, (nay a perfect Identity in very many Words) will appear; it may therefore be deemed a Punic-Celtic compound."Vallancey continues, "from the Canaanite proceeded the Phoenician, from the Phoenician, Carthaginian, or Punic was derived the Aeolian, Dorian and Etruscan, and from these was formed the Latin… Of the Roman Saxon capital letters, the Irish use but three, all the others bear a very great resemblance to the primitive Canaanite and Phoenician." (p. 2-3) Modern language scholars have confirmed that there is a definite connection between the Celtic and Canaanite Phoenician."

c0d79f  No.1970410

Here's a royal link!

Since it is true that Canaanite Phoenicians migrated to Europe in large numbers in ancient times, there must be religious and cultural ties, and in fact, such connections abound. Dr. Thomas Moore's, History of Ireland(p. 40), relates:

"That most common of all Celtic monuments, the Cromlech… is to be found not only in most parts of Europe, but also in Asia," including eastern Mediterranean. Not less ancient and general, among the Celtic nations, was the circle of upright stones, with either an altar or tall pillar in the centre, and, like its prototype at the temple of Byblos, Phoenicia, Gilgal [ancient Israel], serving sometimes as a temple of worship, sometimes as a place of national council or inauguration… The rough, unhewn stone…used in their circular temples by the Druids. Dr. Beauford, in Druidism Revived, says, "It is remarkable that all the ancient altars found in Ireland, and now distinguished by the name of Cromlechs or sloping stones, were originally called Bothal, or the House of God, and they seem to be of the same species as those mentioned in the Book of Genesis, called by the Canaanites, Bethel, or discovered in Byblos, Phoenicia, which has the same signification as the Irish Bothal." The Bible (Judges 9:6; 2Ki. 11:14; 2 Chon. 23:13) indicates that Phoenician kings were crowned either standing upon or next to a pillar of stone. "The practice of seating the new king upon a stone, at his initiation, was the practice in many of the countries of Europe…. The monarchs of Sweden sat upon a stone placed in the centre of twelve lesser ones, and in a similar kind of circle the Kings of Denmark were crowned." (Moore, ibid., p. 42) Note also the significant Bible number, 'twelve', which was common to both European Celts and the Phoenicians.

The book, Identity of the Religions Druidical and Phoenician, adds, "Circular temples…abound in England and other parts of Europe. The most ancient account of them is to be found in the book of Exodus (24:4), "And Moses… builde an altar under the hill, and twelve pillars, according to the twelve tribes.." (p.15) In Europe, Stonehenge, Avebury, and many other early Celtic sites were designed in a circular pattern. There is no record that preserves the order in which the pillars or stelae of the temple of Byblos were organized.

c0d79f  No.1970414

Groves were also features of both Phoenician and Celtic worship. Significant importance was paid by the Celts to the mistletoe and Phoenician Libanesis was/is abundunt in it like no other place in the Near East.

The division of time into a seven-day week was practiced by the Irish Celts, identical to the Phoenicians from whom the Israelites learned the practice and used it after coming to Canaan. In Egypt, the week was made up of ten days and the Israelites had to follow the ten day week following their Egyptian masters. It was referred to as the market days. The Romans had an eight day week.

Since early times, the Israelites sinned against God by adopting many of the pagan practices of their neighbors, and so we find evidence of both Canaanite Phoenician and Canaanite culture among their descendants in Europe. The ancient Baal pillar is one of many such religious monuments which have been found from the Middle East to Ireland.

There are many other examples, however, of customs linking the Celtic Druids specifically with Phoenicia. English historian, William Borlase, in his "Antiquities Of Cornwall," (1754) presented many pages of such evidence: Druids worshipped but one God and allowed no graven images, identical to the Phoenicians, and in contradistinction with almost all other ancient religions. Consecration was by sprinkling with blood, as in Canaanite worship. Druid priests were clothed in white, similar to the Canaanite priest's white ephod'sacrificial victims were bled to death, and the blood was collected in basins which served to sprinkle the altars; bulls were sacrificed, and the image of a bull (the heraldic sign of one Canaanite tribe) was carried into war. "While they performed their horrid rites of human sacrifice, the drums and trumpets sounded without intermission, that the cries of the miserable victims might not be heard." (Compare Jer. 7:31-32; the Canaanite/Phoenician place of human sacrifice was called Tophet, meaning 'the drum' – read more about the controvertial subject of child sacrifice in this site). They prayed with uplifted hands, examined entrails for necromancy, and held the oak in veneration. Further, the standoff between Elijah and the Priests of Baal is another example of the similarity between the Celts and Phoenician priests of Baal. The Druids used the magic wand in imitation of Moses' rod, poured libations, sacrificed upon the tops of rocks, investigated truth by lots, anointed rock pillars with oil, and marked out boundaries with stones. (pp. 104-132, 161) In these and so many other distinctive ways, the religious customs of the Celts and Canaanite Phoenicians bear an unmistakable resemblance!

c0d79f  No.1970497

So I'm thinking it makes most sense that Ireland was just a Phoenician colony. They didn't COME from there.

However! This link is still very important because it seems likely that the DRUIDS were practicing the Phoenician religion (and perhaps were all originally Phoenicians to begin with)

Druids are incorporated into Freemasonry. I can't find the link anymore, but I'm sure I read recently that the Scottish lodge has druid as one of its degrees

c0d79f  No.1970536

Holy fuck! The Phoenicians even had a hand at formulating the Bibles current form!!

Many ignorant historians claim that Phoenicia ceased to exist in 64 B.C. That "happened" when it became part of the Roman world. But, in 425 A.D. official Roman records show the division of Phoenicia Prima into two provinces: Phoenicia Maritima and Phoenicia Libanensis. In the early Byzantine times, the Count of Phoenicia governed Phoenicia. In 380 A.D., Saint Jerome wrote: 'Damnatur Origenes a Demetrio episeopo exceptis Palaestinae…et Phoenicis atque Achaiae sacerdotibus' since 231 A.D. This means that he considered Phoenicia as a separate entity.

At the council of Nicaea in 325 A.D., eleven bishops were present from Phoenicia. They were the bishops of Tyre, Damascus, Sidon, Tripolis, Paneas, Berytus, Palmyra, Ptolemais, Alasus, Emesa, and Antaradus. Saint Augustine (400 AD) witnesses to the same account of Saint Jerome. The Church Councils of Tyre (449 & 515 AD), do the same, as well. And last but not least, the Fall of Phoenicia to the Arabs (640 AD), testify to the continued existence of Phoenicia, in the seventh century. Finally, Church tradition of naming the major bishops of Phoenicia, honorary, living title of 'Metropolitan Archbishop of Phoenicia Maritima.' Lebanese bishops continue to carry this title today (see page with translation – MP3 Byzantine psaltica chants: Bishop of Beirut & Bishop of Tripoli) are a few of many solid proofs that Phoenicia and its people live on despite the misinformation.

a67f61  No.1971746

Random thought I'd like to share. Maybe it's nuts.

What if the secret they're protecting isn't necessarily evil. Think of the force. It's just the force. Good or evil people can use it the same but for different purposes. The Phoenix Cabal jealously guards this knowledge because if the masses knew the secrets of their "magic" or gnosis, then they would be equally equipped to fight and defeat them. I'm making a huge assumption that their magic is really doing something. Consider it more of a lost science that they occasionally expose so that society advances one step forward (always under their control)

The child sacrifice but has NOTHING to do with an actual God rewarding them. It's a pledge to the cabal that they will be loyal for the rest of their life as they've just proven the depths of their devotion with their sacrifice.

Once they make the blood pledge they're given access to the great secrets.

Some of these secrets remain lost and buried in Mesopotamia which explains the constant wars there of the past two decades.

Think about it. The greatest scientists of all time have always had occult connections. They knew ahead of time and merely disclosed, and the cabal has always profited off the patents that emerge.

No evidence for this yet but I feel like I might be hovering over something big here. This is why the Gnostics had to be snuffed out and defamed because they were giving out the secrets for free. I can't believe that the Phoenicians had a hand at Nicea!

c5ecc7  No.1973103

File: 2e16ccbc46b4108⋯.jpg (32.34 KB, 500x300, 5:3, blue-door-learn.jpg)

e217bd  No.1974149


They're not protecting jack shit metaphysical. It's just an intertwined mafia all interlocked through compromise. They can't untie themselves!

I suppose it started with the original sin or hiding something or doing something that was "in the shadow", a lie. Whatever it was it was a piece of cheap grace, ill-gotten leverage. It's just a domino effect from there based on a asymmetry of information. That's the illuminated message. They know and you don't. It's snowballed into knowing who sleeps with whom, how money works, technology patent control, publishing/media, etc. Then, to communicate, they abstract things into symbols. It's all just a giant tar baby of their own making, no leader, no manifest darkness. Just shadow and the absence of light. They call God Lucifer because that's the one thing they will never have: light. We call God by other names rather, out of thankfulness, out of choice. They think that if they get more secrets, move through the game, they will find a way out. Find enough control to free themselves…but that path is just deeper into the void. The only way out is the light…and the shame. They don't believe in forgiveness.

fb884d  No.1976060

File: 0e6f9abbf686a2b⋯.jpg (12.19 KB, 255x157, 255:157, ef831fcd491899137458821dc7….jpg)

Another thread was discussing the recent retirement of the LAPD chief, and one post showed the BL pedo logos on the LA County Sheriff badge, and I found an article about someone who found out about this on 4chan. It goes into the history of the LA County badge, and who made it, pretty interesting.


original thread of image: https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1970768.html#1971404

This Eugene Bischailuz guy apparently ran a boy's band… any accounts of members of this band anywhere?

fb884d  No.1976372

Update: Eugene Bischailuz's father, Martin Bischailuz, had an interesting career and in fact was a mason, serving as a secretary for a chapter of the Royal Arch Masons.


Also this LA Times article about Eugene Bischailuz calls Claire Phillips a murderer, but I couldn't find that about her, nor could I find a source saying Howard Hughes was in an Aero Squadron.

Also here's LASD almost shooting each other


fb884d  No.1976407

E Biscailuz apparently knew lots of Cali businessmen and aeronautics people though


His IMDb, even had a bit of time on TV:


c0d79f  No.1979208


I have this theory that the spiral is actually a Phoenician symbol and doesn't NECESSARILY mean boy lover.

dec9fb  No.1981115

i still prefer "Saturnian Death Cult"

c0d79f  No.1984421

File: c3a5638fa811a7e⋯.jpg (16.34 KB, 200x287, 200:287, dunant_j.jpg)

Guess who was a Freemason?

Jean-Henri Dunant

May 8, 1828-October 30, 1910

Founder of the Red Cross, a founder of the Young Men’s Christian Association, and co-winner of the first Nobel Prize for Peace in 1901, he also worked to bring about the 1864 Geneva Convention.

In Un Souvenir de Solférino (1862) he proposed the formation in all countries of voluntary relief societies for the prevention and alleviation of suffering in war and peacetime, without distinction of race or creed.

I stumbled upon this while digging into Frédéric Passy, founder of Inter Parliamentary Union. He shared the first Nobel Peace Prize with him. I'm sure that's just a coincidence!!

96b461  No.1995450


How does this fit in?

aa86f5  No.1995682

File: c200f8071dc35f4⋯.jpg (44.28 KB, 540x311, 540:311, nice.jpg)

f6807d  No.1996651

File: 4dce635922a48d1⋯.jpg (1.84 MB, 3024x1938, 504:323, 20180702003124_IMG_1293.JPG)

File: d2b88bc3d408e2c⋯.jpg (1.82 MB, 3019x2024, 3019:2024, 20180702003153_IMG_1294.JPG)

File: d985af536fddc2c⋯.jpg (1.12 MB, 1829x2749, 1829:2749, 20180702003641_IMG_1295.JPG)

Looking for more around the house buried in stuff

f6807d  No.1996694


All words, symbols, meanings, choices, everything has a positive and negative side to it. It is deliberate and ends make the direction,

f6807d  No.1996699

f6807d  No.1996733

File: 7391ef1d4e3c428⋯.jpg (1.68 MB, 2650x2784, 1325:1392, 20180702012240_IMG_1296.JPG)


There are also certain ways that they are used like this photo they are locked as a process in order and they run from opposing sides from one another.

1954cd  No.2001832

File: 7bedf49bee17718⋯.jpg (1.9 MB, 5312x2988, 16:9, Chipotle.jpg)

Well, this spiral seems to show up in many unexpected places.

Hmmm… makes one wonder.

c0d79f  No.2002207



A Hohokam petroglyph can be found in the Saguaro National Monument, AZ. and it is believed that the carved spiral represents the water symbol.

What’s the true connection between this carving and the Hokoham culture which occupied the region of present-day Tucson and Phoenix, AZ.?

The spiral, a magical symbol, was once carved on the rocks of Sahara, in the times when this region of the world was an immense green garden and it was very long time ago and the breast of Astarte, the ancient Phoenician great goddess of fertility, motherhood, and war (the counterpart of the Babylonian goddess Ishtar) is depicted with spirals.

The FBI is either wrong or not quite right.

I really think that it doesn't mean boy lover exclusively. It's cart before the horse. I think the spiral signals Phoenicians Welcome here, who tend to practice in child trafficking but do much much more than that.

Freemasons isn't the key. They're the psychological army of the cabal. They're the clean up crew for local messes, just like the red cross for international messes. Whenever the cabal does a serious operation they'll be there to make sure the narrative goes on plot.

So Freemasonry is important to fully dig into. But also other cults. Who controls the Freemasons?

c0d79f  No.2002258

File: d72db5434fef039⋯.jpg (22.62 KB, 220x526, 110:263, 220px-Statuette_Goddess_Lo….jpg)

Don't believe me? Here's Y Head, Astarte

c0d79f  No.2002408


I have no fucking clue what this guy is saying. Some coven that worships Astarte. Maybe might activate some almonds in some other brain

c0d79f  No.2002463

Many North American Indian cultures associate counterclockwise spirals (starting from the center) with the concept of rising, and the clockwise spiral with the concept of descending

c0d79f  No.2002484

Scientists estimate that the patterns, at least 20000 years old, are probably associated with solar symbols. But it can be also a pure guess, nothing more.

Maori spirals

“It was the era of the serpent!” we hear in the songs of the natives of mysterious ancient Arnhem Land in Northern Australia. …

“The serpent which was man, the serpent which flies in the skies…”

It’s about the Creation myth, the story of human race, never forgotten by the aborigines but also never recorded by them. It’s about the origin of the symbol of the spiral because in the beginning was the egg, the so-called cosmogonic egg mentioned in the religions and beliefs of many cultures worldwide.

c0d79f  No.2003005

File: 2f2ecad04408960⋯.jpg (61.26 KB, 372x468, 31:39, parismasonicwomenhead.jpg)

File: 9a0b5369072545a⋯.png (10.12 KB, 200x200, 1:1, 0.png)

File: 2903b68628251fb⋯.jpg (392.51 KB, 616x1123, 616:1123, astarte-stele.jpg)

File: d6723b1bfa75420⋯.jpg (34.56 KB, 316x475, 316:475, 28417437.jpg)

File: 9d37e5f6d18f8fd⋯.jpg (53.68 KB, 400x527, 400:527, 1101680315_400.jpg)

This is required reading!

"Nimrod" created "freemasonry" to worship Astarte in secret.

New initiates of Freemasonry are told to search for the, "lost Word" which is apparently the real name of God. In the third degree initiation they are given a clue and told to look, "to that bright and Morning Star". Now the Morning Star is Venus who was a Roman Goddess. Though the Morning Star was also once called Lucifer, the god of light which people who claim that Freemasons are Devil worshippers, latch onto. Yet long before the creation of Lucifer it was the Babylonian Goddess Astarte who was the Morning Star. Further back in time she was known as the "Queen of the Star" and the Ancient Great Mother. (Jesus was also called the Morning Star in Revelations in the New Testament.)


8e54af  No.2003418


So the Freemason were around during biblical times AND were visiting with the Olmecs/Toltecs?

c0d79f  No.2005733

File: 65183a5fa63a244⋯.jpg (19.25 KB, 127x217, 127:217, Phillip_Darrell_Duppa[1].jpg)


Of course the Freemasons weren't called that back then. What we're trying to trace back here is the roots to the original seed. Freemasonry is merely one of it's more recent roots.

We're looking at the symbology, mythology, language, and actual history of groups that emerged from Sumeria and ancient Babylon in particular. That's where most of this nonsense started.

As for Olmecs/Toltecs? That's a mystery isn't it? But it's an interesting allegation that the Phoenicians may have visited America very early in the BC's, and either lived amongst those tribe, WERE those tribes, or inspired certain religious ritual in those tribes.

Just a total coincidence that there's such carvings in Phoenix AZ.

>The history of the city of Phoenix begins with Jack Swilling, a Confederate veteran of the Civil War. In 1867, while traveling through the Salt River Valley, he saw a potential for farming, much like the military had already cultivated further east, near Fort McDowell. He formed a small community that same year about four miles (six km) east of the present city. Lord Darrell Duppa, one of the original settlers in Swilling's party, suggested the name "Phoenix", as it described a city born from the ruins of a former civilization.[18]

Indeed, but perhaps that former civilisation has more to do with the Phoenicians than the Hohokam?

Gee, I wonder if this Duppa guy is a freemason…

>Duppa first came to Arizona via Prescott in 1863 where he was looking after family prospecting interests. Shortly thereafter he met Jack Swilling and the two became lifelong friends. The union seemed natural a Jack was a fellow prospector and businessman. Together these two frontiersmen were among the first residents of Phoenix AZ, and in fact, it was Lord Duppa who is responsible for the naming of our fair city. Whereas the history books have recorded that he simply proposed the name “Phoenix” in honor of the Hohokam civilization upon which our city was built, I believe there is much more to the story as Duppa was a well know, open high-level Freemason. He was known to carry a well-worn library with him everywhere he went including works by Ovid, Juvenal, and Homer in the original.


>It is my thought that he came to Phoenix for an altogether different reason. A reason that runs deeper than simply pioneering a new town in a U.S. Territory. That he was involved in mining and prospecting is no secret. That he was a high ranking Freemason is no secret. That he was extremely well educated and came from modest nobility is also no secret. One can assume safely that his father and brothers were most likely Masons too. We know he traveled to Australia to oversee family business (mining and cattle) but then on California and finally Arizona. That a well educated, high ranking Freemason from a prominent English family wound up in an untapped frontier territory to found what would become one of the most influential cities in the United States today is not a coincidence.


This guy doesn't go much deeper into why he thinks he named it Phoenix. But read this thread and you'll understand that the Phoenix is very important to them.

c0d79f  No.2006307

File: 8d0a5d010f86f9b⋯.gif (1.74 KB, 300x165, 20:11, phoenix_flag[1].gif)

Much better article on the City of Phoenix. Nice flag bro.

Not sure where this fits into the puzzle but it seems that Phoenix itself is a Freemason stronghold


Perhaps it is no accident that most of the first citizens of Phoenix, including Duppa, were Freemasons.

John T. Alsap, for instance, was an attorney, judge, first territorial treasurer and first mayor of Phoenix. He also served as the first worshipful master of Arizona Lodge No. 2 as well as the first grand master of the Masonic Grand Lodge of Arizona. Even earlier, he had been first master of Arizona's first Masonic Lodge called Aztlan, located in Prescott, the first territorial capital. (A lot of "firsts" here.)

Aztlan is a Nahuatl word meaning "place of the heron." The Aztecs inhabited this mythical land after emerging from the Seven Caves located in the bowels of the earth. The heron is thought to be the naturalistic model for both the phoenix and the Bennu bird. In the Egyptian sun cult the Bennu was found perched atop an obelisk or sometimes upon a pyramid-shaped stone of meteoric iron called a Benben.

As a primo symbol of morning and new life, the Egyptian heron passes with flying colors (no pun intended). Likewise, the Bennu embodies the morning star Venus, appearing each dawn on the laurel tree in Heliopolis. This ornithological curiosity is also the incarnation of the heart (or ab) of Osiris and the soul (or ba) of Ra, two primary deities related by a simple palindrome. In addition, the heron and the Bennu were among a small number of animals, including the hawk and the serpent, in which a discarnate soul could inhabit for as long as it wished.

The hieroglyph for bennu means both "purple heron" (Ardea purpurea) and "palm tree." One denotation for the word "phoenix" is "purple-red"; consequently, the Phoenicians were known as "red men." Even today residents of Phoenix, Arizona are known as Phoenicians. The flag of the city is a stylized white phoenix on a purple background.

In a tome called Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, 33rd-degree Mason Albert Pike states that the phoenix was a quintessential alchemical icon. In this regard J.E. Cirlot's Dictionary of Symbols remarks: "In alchemy, [the phoenix] corresponds to the colour red, to the regeneration of universal life and to the successful completion of a process." Some Arizona prospectors may indeed have been seeking spiritual gold.

Is it more than mere coincidence, then, that the phoenix, whose center of worship was the Pre-Dynastic City of the Sun, should lend its name to what would become the largest city in the Valley of the Sun? Is the name something more than the whim of some erudite inebriate misplaced in the hinterlands of America?

Aztlan is furthermore conceptualized as an island, and some speculate that the name even refers to the legendary continent of Atlantis. According to comparative linguistics scholar Gene D. Matlock in The Last Atlantis Book, the Aztlán of Nahuatl mythology was really called Aztatlán, referring to the village of Nayarit on Mexico's western coast. The Sanskrit word Asta apparently means "Place of the Setting Sun." Matlock suggests that this could actually be the westernmost boundary of what was once Atlantis.

Did Lord Duppa and Judge Alsap consciously try to merge Egyptian and Mesoamerican mythologies in the wilds of Arizona? Alsap's Bachelor of Law and Doctor of Medicine degrees prove that he was no dummy himself. Was the establishment of Aztlan (Masonic Lodge No.1) and Phoenix (Masonic Lodge No. 2) an attempt to symbolically merge Prescott (the heron) and Phoenix (the Bennu) in the same way they would soon actually be linked by stagecoach? Was it a clandestine Masonic intent that a new Atlantis (Aztlan) should rise in Arizona and a new Heliopolis (Phoenix) should be its heart?

c0d79f  No.2006379

Anyone got anything on these groups?

Odd Fellows

Knights of Pythias

Ancient Order of United Workmen

Grand Army of the Republic

Chosen Friends

Good Templars.

c0d79f  No.2006427

And here we have APACHE, and Skull and Bones, and our friends the Bush family!

Something about Phoenix stinks.

An even more insidious instance of power and wealth was Prescott Sheldon Bush (1895-1972). He was father of the forty-first U.S. president George Herbert Walker Bush and grandfather of the forty-third president George W. Bush. All three had been members of the notorious Skull and Bones Society, an elite, quasi-Masonic fraternity at Yale University.

Possibly the eldest Bush was named after his distant relative William Hickling Prescott, the historian noted above. In 1918 Bush allegedly purloined the skull of the famous Arizona Apache warrior Geronimo from its resting place at Fort Sill, Oklahoma and took it back to the secret society's meeting hall to be displayed in a glass case. The motive for this savage act is unclear, but it may have involved retribution for the 1869 killing of settler James G. Sheldon from Maine by Apaches at Camp Willow Grove west of Prescott. Sheldon, after whom a major street in Prescott was named, is perhaps a relative of Prescott Sheldon Bush, or he may merely be a namesake whom Bush was trying to avenge.

Bush was later elected as a U.S. senator from Connecticut. His son and grandson, of course, each became president. The Bush vacation home is located in Kennebunkport, Maine. Geronimo's skull has never been recovered.

And Phoenix remains an enigmatic talisman whose Masonic roots reach deep into the desert of the American Southwest.

c0d79f  No.2011231

File: 5c8525dfc558f1a⋯.png (40.99 KB, 880x968, 10:11, FreeMasonry G for Goddess.png)

File: ba74a33edf3fa16⋯.jpg (115.55 KB, 496x640, 31:40, ba74a33edf3fa166019959291d….jpg)

File: 7ed074cd1e581b0⋯.jpg (604.66 KB, 1600x1496, 200:187, 7ed074cd1e581b08d565787b23….jpg)

File: 9541d3d04c03bd0⋯.jpg (40.68 KB, 246x500, 123:250, 9541d3d04c03bd0bc59fba6f3c….jpg)

File: 0a48136a4053aae⋯.jpg (78.92 KB, 604x835, 604:835, 0a48136a4053aaefa23fef2a6c….jpg)

Could it be? Could it really be?

G = Goddess

Rumor has it these men have a secret. You only learn it when you're really high up the ranks. At the very end of your journey you're taught that God = Lucifer. But that's misinformation. It's not wrong, but it's fake news. They worship the morning star, commonly mistaken for Lucifer. What planet represents the morning star?


The big secret? What does the G mean? God? Or, perhaps Goddess?

Kinda makes you think about "Feminism" a whole lot different if you consider that it's being pushed by a cult that worships a child sacrificing demoness.

c0d79f  No.2011419

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

This guy completely explodes with esoteric autism. I feel like he's figured it out but I need to review it 15x to just grab pieces of what he's saying. Good shit.

28ceaf  No.2011433

File: 7e3546a0567fe16⋯.png (107.17 KB, 1468x226, 734:113, Screenshot 2018-07-03 at 1….png)

File: ff31218b105352d⋯.png (693 KB, 1492x930, 746:465, Screenshot 2018-07-03 at 1….png)

c0d79f  No.2011563

File: e6208af15ecde79⋯.jpg (195.04 KB, 1368x191, 1368:191, Enlil.jpg)


Connecting the dots!!!

In the old thread, we've dug a bit on Enlil..Some think of him as the bad guy and Enki was the scientist god that created humanity. Thing is, upon reflection, that sounds an awful lot like the Demiurge of gnostic tradition.

Anyway. Interesting that Ishtar doesn't want a god that is intolerant to evil at her table.

c0d79f  No.2011579

File: 9d12edfd53ad734⋯.gif (74.54 KB, 967x1020, 967:1020, 4fcee1d6f44dc6b7ed4f161f1e….gif)

Found this in the general thread, might be handy

28ceaf  No.2011643

File: 572d7e4c2942d67⋯.png (23.42 KB, 800x568, 100:71, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 784e14abceb4e1f⋯.png (184.98 KB, 1416x544, 177:68, ClipboardImage.png)


ASARTE is still a later development…as transmutation to co-opt the greeks…go back further.


Enlil - God of wind, air, earth, and STORMS.





28ceaf  No.2011678

File: fb1f323768b9d0f⋯.png (153.1 KB, 1992x866, 996:433, Screenshot 2018-07-03 at 1….png)


Didn't the Pope just claim to be more powerful than God or something…this would make sense.

c0d79f  No.2012026

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


Correct, Astarte is the Phoenician version. I tend to zero in on Phoenicia because it seems to be the place where the cult seemed to accelerate and expand.

This guy is ON POINT (he looks funny though)

c0d79f  No.2012261

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


Correct, Astarte is the Phoenician version. I tend to zero in on Phoenicia because it seems to be the place where the cult seemed to accelerate and expand.

This guy is ON POINT (he looks funny though)

c0d79f  No.2012297

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


Oops, 8ch lagged and double posted.

As for going back further, I'm going to finally explore the East.

This same guy, Lifting the Veil has a FASINATING series on tracing it all back to India.

I think it's impossible to argue against it..

So.. India to Sumer to Egypt? Hmmmm

This fits in with Q's clues about the NWO and the Nazi's who obsessively loved the Hindu swastika

c0d79f  No.2012702

File: b1358daa6f17ba5⋯.jpg (404.07 KB, 1729x1065, 1729:1065, 2018-07-03_10-39-26.jpg)

5f2268  No.2016125


Freemason symbols at ASU Tempe Campus Hayden Library

Hayden Library entrance




Upon visiting and entering the library students must descend down a flight of stairs, it is surrounded by unfinished pyramids, the two pillars (Boaz/Jachin), the three doorways, two abstract conceptualizations of sphinxes guarding the entrance, there is also what asu refers to as a "lantern but resembles a Temple of the classical age and it is lit up during night as a representation of becoming enlightened.

Also from a birds eye view one can see a Templar style cross.

It is quite amusing that the actual library itself is the building to the far left in the first image.

5f2268  No.2016216

File: ec97976e2ebc3f7⋯.png (587.26 KB, 518x471, 518:471, Hayden Library.PNG)

c0d79f  No.2016642

File: 6ce6b3da336e254⋯.jpg (335.77 KB, 650x497, 650:497, freemason-hand-signs-scree….jpg)

File: 703696b45e77f9b⋯.jpg (182.81 KB, 1200x988, 300:247, 1200px-Yalta_Conference_(C….jpg)

If everyone in this picture is a Freemason, kinda makes you see WW2 differently…

c0d79f  No.2016673

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

I find the flag at 5:25 interesting…

c0d79f  No.2017686


>Upon visiting and entering the library students must descend down a flight of stairs, it is surrounded by unfinished pyramids, the two pillars (Boaz/Jachin), the three doorways, two abstract conceptualizations of sphinxes guarding the entrance, there is also what asu refers to as a "lantern but resembles a Temple of the classical age and it is lit up during night as a representation of becoming enlightened.

It'd be interested in seeing that too!

c0d79f  No.2017712

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

This guy is OBVIOUSLY a hardcore Christian, but he does get into a wavelength if you can suffer through the first few minutes.

c5de16  No.2018402

==NOTABLES== are my own

NIMROD 2268 - 1868BC

>>1941501, >>1946496, >>1952500

- Babylon, Bible, Nimrod,

>>1942064 - ==Nimrod Meaning==

>>1945578 - ==Definition Babel==

>>1946557 - ==Nimrod connected to Freemasons==

>>1949306 - ==MOAR Nimrod --> Masons==


DATE REQUIRED - Around 2600 to 2500 BC??? -

Nimrod is Gilgamesh 2600BC

>>1948148 - CONFIRMED >>1948205


>>1958756 - ==1200BC TO 539BC== - https:// www.preceden.com/timelines/210128-world-civilizations

>>1956421 - ==Phoenician = Irish???== >>1956424 >>1956426 ==SUMMARY W REPTILES?== >>1956445

>>1970380 >>1970497>>1970536

- Phoenician migration to Europe. Celtic Druids. Ireland. Still exist today in Lebanon.



>>1969250 - ==TREE OF TAINT== Phoenician Symbolism


>>2002207 - Free Masons one part of many

>>2003005 (((They))) worship Venus, morning star. >>2002258 Astarte aka Isis.

>>1984421 - Red Cross founder mason

>>1952706 - Freud was a suspected mason

>>2016642, >>2011231- Masons


>>1949712 - ==VIDEO== 'Luxor, the source of light.' Documentary on hotel Casino in Las Vegas.

>>1961925 - ==VIDEO== 'Saturn was the Sun' - who or what are the Gods/>>1961742

>>2011419 - ==VIDEO== 'Eve the Eclipse Goddess - Freemasonry and Fallen Angeles'

>>1965106 - Serpent, Saturn, Cube

>>2012261 - ==VIDEO== Esoteric Grammatica - Magik sigil

Other Notables

>>1949306 --Good Summary - related to Knights of Malta and Templar's


>>2011579 - Hebrew Alphabet - Phoenician Alphabet >>1732859 (previous)

>>1942253 - Bugs Y

>>1949408 - Keys / Phallus Worship.

>>1976060 - Swirl Logo digs >>2001832

c0d79f  No.2024198


My hero! Excellent summary, this will help anons get into the mix. If you're up for the challenge, the previous thread had 700 posts. Hard thing is that 8ch will likely delete many of those posts soon because these threads simply move slower than the general which bumps posts out… Hmm! Hence why I archived last thread, just in case.


As this is a focused thread, I thought of a scientific way we could propose new information.

1. State your hypothesis, say, "Hypothesis: Nimrod lived 500 years, for real". Don't write ANYTHING but your idea in the H post.

2. Reply with a chunk of evidence with either SUPPORTING or NEGATING at the top. You can drop several exhibits, but try to keep each within a post to be similar within that post. Exhibits can be STRONG such as archeological images or DNA research to SPECULATIVE which would be someone's blog post or a biased person's book.

3. After an H post and several E posts, anons can then rt all relevant E's and summarize with their own Theory that connects the fonts with a conclusion. Ideally a T post will strongly try to prove a hypothesis (becomes fact) or discredit it (becomes fiction).

Of course, people can then debate the T post if they're inclined.

This way instead of just throwing mud on the wall, we can systematically identify facts worth digging more on and move past the more fringe red herrings.

What say you beautiful Anons?!

c0d79f  No.2024258


*connect the dots

c0d79f  No.2024374

I'll try one out. Of course, regular posts are still fine for random drops. This just serves as a way to collectively dig on an idea.

H: The Phoenicians helped shape the Christian Bible as we know it.

c0d79f  No.2024424



Eleven bishops, but no chor-episcopi, were present at the council of Nicea from Phoenicia; namely, the bishops of Tyre, Ptolemais, Damascus, Sidon, Tripolis, Paneas, Berytus, Palmyra, Alasus2, Emesa, and Antaradus.3


c0d79f  No.2024509



Over 300 bishops took part, and there was more than one council.


11 out of 315 doesn't sound very influential.


Claim would be stronger if "alliances" with these bishops could be revealed.


c0d79f  No.2024617



Phoenicia didn't exist anymore. Persia conquered them in 539 BC and then many other nations before the first council.



To strengthen claim we would need to show the Phoenician people remained consistent even after subsequent invasions…


Perhaps it can be shown a migration pattern that brings the Phoenician "cabal" surviving, such as Carthage to Iberia etc

f8fd1a  No.2025801

RE: Cushitic origin of Nimrod

You should probably find a map of Cush and start switching around Rs and Ls and see what happens.

Does Berbera make more sense as Balbaala?

d97b08  No.2026023


Washington is using the opposite hand from the others. I wonder if that could be a sign of rebellion.

0dc429  No.2026847

File: 62b86f740a2a22d⋯.jpg (59.07 KB, 474x718, 237:359, initiation.jpg)

File: 6a155f779f9e40a⋯.jpg (125.95 KB, 800x1118, 400:559, 0397.jpg)


I believe you are correct. The inversion of their signs seems to be a sign of rebellion. Salvador Dali once painted the Masonic initiation with the opposite leg rolled up and the eyes uncovered.

f8fd1a  No.2027399

File: dcb1248b4b0d5f1⋯.jpg (2.51 MB, 3036x4048, 3:4, IMG_20180423_224908.jpg)

0dc429  No.2027441

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

c0d79f  No.2027811


>You should probably find a map of Cush and start switching around Rs and Ls and see what happens.

What? Why? Where you going with this idea?

c0d79f  No.2027977




This is super interesting. All religions seem to have a theme that "they" will come back. I wouldn't be surprised if we ultimately conclude that this is why (((they))) want the NWO so that if they recreate Atlantis's world wide empire, they will come back to rule again.

This video is pretty funny. It seems to say that this all started because the Atlantis traders and missionaries said to the primitive people that they'll return, but then Atlantis exploded, and no one ever came back.. so we just made up myths and are still waiting.

Battle of the Titans an echo of the wars of Atlantis… I've always thought the myths of the gods are way too detailed with ridiculous shit to be just made up

c0d79f  No.2028569


The Eden story is a long lost echo from prehistory of when Modern Humans emerged. Most myths seem to indicate that we were a hybrid of the gods and animals on the earth. Animals already existed in abundance, which is why "Adam" had to name them all. Whether these same gods also made all the animals is another question, but the hypothesis is that Homo Sapiens were a tweaked version of either Neanderthal, or Cro-Magnon, or both, or something else entirely.

Significance if true:

We are not of this world, and this secret would almost certainly still be known and held by the elite mystery cults. No doubt we would want to figure out who our "parents" are, and reclaim our destiny in the stars.

Significance if false:

If we are wholey a product of natural evolution, then Religion itself is mostly fiction. The myths and fables would be just echos of mankind's adventures through the wilderness. Even if false, that doesn't mean people won't believe it's true and thus it could still motivate the elite mystery cults.

c0d79f  No.2028657





Out of Africa

All modern humans (Russians and Australians included) are derived from an initial migration out of Africa. From the fossil record this seems to have occurred sometime around 100,000 years ago in the Near East, at Skhul and Qafzeh.

This initial Homo sapiens range expansion from Africa was initially thought to have been short-lived, with Homo neanderthalensis returning to South West Asia some 60,000 years ago.


Eden would be 100,000 years ago. That's a long fucking time. What the hell have humans been doing for all that time? Look how much we've done in 300 years. Our collective memory seems to go back to the last Ice Age, and before we seem to have amnesia.

Regardless, 100k years is also "not that long" either, in the grand time scale that's a wink. So modern humans are a very recent animal on the scene.



We now know that humans and Neanderthals mixed early in human history, sometime before 45,000 years ago.


For 65k years, Sapiens fucked only Sapiens, but all the sudden, 45k years ago, we found some Neanderthal cuties and made some freaky babies.

c0d79f  No.2028788






The highest percentage is found among some of the tribes still living in the Atlas Mountains of Morocco (40%). The next highest are the Basques, reported in different publications as having 25 and 32%, depending on location. The people of northwest Ireland, the Highland Scots and the western islanders of Norway all have between 16 and 25%, while the Lapps of Norway and Finland have between 5 and 7%. In addition, Cavalli-Sforza reports two small isolated populations of the same tribe, one in Chad and another in Senegal, each with about 25%. On his map, he shows an Rh-negative population in Chad, still living near the formerly enormous Chad lake. Only part of this lake still exists on the spot where the boundaries of Chad, Niger, Nigeria and Cameroon meet. These people may originally have been the sailors on Chad lake. Could it be that this is the original location of the Rh-negative population that then moved to Morocco and Algiers to become the Berbers? Or would it be the other way around?


Could RH- really be the biggest clue and the reason why the elite obsess over bloodlines? This evidence would be supported by proof that the elite generally have this bloodtype as well.

I couldn't help but notice the "ATLAS Mountains" above. ATL………………………. Atlantis?

c0d79f  No.2028970





Re-Examining the "Out of Africa" Theory and the Origin of Europeoids (Caucasoids) in Light of DNA Genealogy

(see image)


This whole document is a trove of information. Would be great if other anons could pour through it. This is very recent research tracing back humanity based on DNA. Not sure what it means yet. Modern humans still emerged about 100k years ago, but there was a significant split 60k years ago, and this seems to be the origin of the Caucasians, or as they put it "Europeoids"

I'll admit I haven't read the whole paper yet, so perhaps they expand on this detail moreso but this graph really stood out to me. Could there have been more genetic manipulation then?

Wild Speculation

The gods tweaked us 100k years ago, left us to our own devices to let us acclimate to the new environment. Returned 40k years later to adjust our DNA further. Literally no evidence for this yet, just putting it out there.

c0d79f  No.2028978

File: c4802a8337e27b4⋯.jpg (123.78 KB, 700x671, 700:671, haplogroup tree.jpg)


(repost with picture!)




Re-Examining the "Out of Africa" Theory and the Origin of Europeoids (Caucasoids) in Light of DNA Genealogy

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This whole document is a trove of information. Would be great if other anons could pour through it. This is very recent research tracing back humanity based on DNA. Not sure what it means yet. Modern humans still emerged about 100k years ago, but there was a significant split 60k years ago, and this seems to be the origin of the Caucasians, or as they put it "Europeoids"

I'll admit I haven't read the whole paper yet, so perhaps they expand on this detail moreso but this graph really stood out to me. Could there have been more genetic manipulation then?

Wild Speculation

The gods tweaked us 100k years ago, left us to our own devices to let us acclimate to the new environment. Returned 40k years later to adjust our DNA further. Literally no evidence for this yet, just putting it out there.

e78b7c  No.2029522


This is correct. Rs and Ls are linguistically the same letter.

Think about Asians who can only say one or the other.

Especially with ancient languages, you should try interchanging them and see what it looks like.

It can be enlightening.

c0d79f  No.2029894


Ah I getcha… Wasn't there some super expensive book that promotes this theory?

a74468  No.2030200



>>1970380, >>1970497, >>1970536


>- Phoenician migration to Europe. Celtic Druids. Ireland. Still exist today in Lebanon.

Love this bread so much~

e78b7c  No.2030651


Probably, but it's pretty standard linguistics theory that lots of languages don't differentiate L and R, so if you see an L, you can replace it with an R and see if it makes more sense to you or matches up with something written in another language.

The ancient world is a multi-lingual environment, and you have to keep in mind that the same word rendered in a different alphabet or language, may look different.

There's all the Grimm's Law and other theories of sound shift you can learn too.

It's more fluid than that, really, but you can assume in any language that a T and a D might be interchangeable. Th may or may not exist. And a C, K, or H, might be the same sound. Geneaologists run into this with immigrants who change their names over time.

Historians need to be always aware of it. Clovis=Louis=Ludwig=Choldwig, etc.

Salman=Suleiman=Solomon=Schlomo, etc.

e78b7c  No.2030772


Oh, and don't forget that the Semitic language alphabets and some others don't use vowels, so only the consonants really matter.

28ceaf  No.2031802

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e78b7c  No.2032193


Thanks. This is an interesting source.

I've seen other pieces about the similarities between Irish and Berber languages, but this one is new to me.

c0d79f  No.2033113

Does anyone have any thoughts on the true origin of Rome? That Romulus/Remes story is so weird and stupid.

I'm curious about them because they ended up being the main rivals of the Carthaginians after Persia wiped out Phoenicia.

I can't believe that these super rich, super smart people (The Carthaginians/Phoenicians/Canaanites) just disappeared. I think some must have actually integrated into Rome, and possibly in very high positions. Possibly even the highest positions. This somehow sets the stage for Europe

c0d79f  No.2033368





When and why did we evolve RH negative blood?

2 Answers

Pippi M. R. Groving

Pippi M. R. Groving, I teach biomedical courses at BA level

Answered Sep 13, 2016 · Author has 8.2k answers and 9m answer views

As the RhD variations positive and negative are spread to all popularions outside Africa, the variation probably evolved 100.000 years ago.

It is theorised that when the Homo sapiens left Africa those 100.000 years ago, it was a rather small* group and that group had about a thousand years of interbreeding before wandering on to the rest of the world. And that is why the AB0 and Rhesus blood configuration are in all populations that are not native to Africa.

As for why it happened… who knows?

It is most likely just a random mutation. The Rhesus gene and resulting protein works the same way no matter whether you are positive or negative. The main difference is how the immune system reacts to the protein.

*small group as in less than 10.000 people.


Not sure what this guy's sources are. But it's an interesting thought. Instead of RH- being a direct "transfusion" from the gods, lets say it did evolve naturally. But, it evolved because early Sapiens were fucking their brothers and sisters too much. The reason this is weird, is because you'd think all "new" species would have this exact same problem, therefore RH- would be common.

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f8fd1a  No.2033508

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I'm pretty busy for the holiday but if you're not look into:

Ebbe Waaq/al-waaqin in Quran 13:37


Abil and Qabil





Was (Egyptian)/Was(Somali)/Vis(Latin)

Uh when I'm back I have some background in both Cushitic and Semitic languages and can sort of connect more dots if you want. Everyone forgets it's way easier to cross Bab el Mandeb than go down the Nile. Especially when there was nothing on the Nile yet. If any of you are pro at Greek/Latin we'll probably have a lot of fun.

bb5219  No.2038463

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RH- correlates with haplogroup R1b. Pretty sure Atlantis is somehow wrapped up in all this. Also check the oldest human bones found in NA. White man was in America before the Asians, and according to the Indian legends there was something before them. So we have Rh- correlating a lot with patrilineal gene r1b, a group of people spanning both sides of the Atlantic. I wonder how high or low the prevalence of rh- is with r1b's cousins r1a. Here's what I think. R1b is descended from Cain whose mother was Lilith(not human). These mythologies must have started from something real and got bent and changed along the way. We should look into similarities between ancient people's mythologies.

cdd85b  No.2038496

File: dd2b6776d4ce331⋯.jpg (213.35 KB, 508x871, 508:871, Thoth.jpg)


Answers will come as dictated by God.

c0d79f  No.2041522

File: 34ca249e28dd130⋯.jpg (2.11 MB, 4048x3036, 4:3, b55b16f45fe0b489be94870516….jpg)

Saw this on the general

c0d79f  No.2041649

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Jesus christ. That's a helufa dump there, will take me a bit to look through it.

As for comparative mythology, yes there will definitely be some merit there. I've included a good example of this.

I can't decide if it makes sense to think of gods as echos of former heroes in our long forgotten past, or as mere personifications of nature. Or both?? I think personifications make the most sense. The interesting thing is that we can trace the same culture going through time via this comparison.

The weirdest thing is that it seems that the Pantheon has been consistent throughout all cultures and all ages. Even Catholicism has preserved the Pantheon but turned the gods into saints instead. Why is this Pantheon so important to the elite? Can we just not think of better ideas so we just keep recycling them over and over again? Or are they actually VERY important?

c0d79f  No.2041662

File: 0d19b52422344da⋯.jpg (35.58 KB, 350x592, 175:296, thothpriest-350[1].jpg)



Thoth was the God of Knowledge, the Moon, Measurement, Wisdom, the Alphabet, Records, Thought, Intelligence, Meditation, the Mind, Logic, Reason, Reading, Hieroglyphics, Magic, Secrets, Scribes, and Writing. He also went by other names in the myths of ancient civilizations. He pretty much play a major God they all of them - same soul - different identities.

Thoth or Djehuti was one of the deities of the Egyptian pantheon. In art, he was often depicted as a man with the head of an ibis or a baboon, animals sacred to him. His feminine counterpart was Seshat, and his wife was Ma'at.

Thoth's chief temple was located in the city of Khmun, later called Hermopolis Magna during the Greco-Roman era (in reference to him through the Greeks' interpretation that he was the same as their god Hermes) and Shmounein in the Coptic rendering, and was partially destroyed in 1826. In that city, he led the Ogdoad pantheon of eight principal deities. He also had numerous shrines within the cities of Abydos, Hesert, Urit, Per-Ab, Rekhui, Ta-ur, Sep, Hat, Pselket, Talmsis, Antcha-Mutet, Bah, Amen-heri-ab, and Ta-kens.

Thoth played many vital and prominent roles in Egyptian mythology, such as maintaining the universe, and being one of the two deities (the other being Ma'at) who stood on either side of Ra's boat. In the later history of ancient Egypt, Thoth became heavily associated with the arbitration of godly disputes, the arts of magic, the system of writing, the development of science, and the judgment of the dead.


28ceaf  No.2043390



STFU, troll.

d97b08  No.2050185

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0dc429  No.2055809

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>It seems to say that this all started because the Atlantis traders and missionaries said to the primitive people that they'll return, but then Atlantis exploded, and no one ever came back.. so we just made up myths and are still waiting.

Assuming that Atlantis was a real place with real people; it would explain all the really strange technology you read about in ancient texts.

Physical evidence of ancient atomic wars has been found at various locations. The biggest "natural" deposit of silica glass on earth is in the Sahara desert. An astrochemist, Christian Koeberl claims the only thing hot enough to create this natural formation would've been a meteorite, yet there is no evidence of an impact crater in satellite images.

The Ancient Egyptians would collect silica glass for jewelry and called it the "Rock of God". Egyptians believed the silica glass came from the Pyramid Wars between Horus and Seth.

King Tut's glass scarab was made of this same silica glass and when tested the fission track dates of the glass indicate that it is at least 28 million years old. It is considered a scientific enigma.

c0d79f  No.2055958


Only thing I can't reconcile with the Ancient Technology idea is how on earth did we go from flying machines to not knowing how to make a car for millennia?

c0d79f  No.2057380

File: 93b21877bd6b941⋯.jpg (79.27 KB, 610x655, 122:131, Manco-Capac[1].jpg)


I seriously had a weird dream last night. I was at Lake Titicaca and there was some sort of castle on an island. I don't remember much else. The weird thing is that absolutely none of my diggest has ever mentioned this place, and until now I only thought of it as a nice tourist trap. Turns out it's literally the claimed origin of the Inca civilization with tons of mythology surrounding it.

Look at the symbolism on Manco Capac! Of course, this was painted by a westerner who may have overlapped some of our stuff on to him.. but.. wow.. The Bull/Horns, the swirl…

The Myths of Inti and Manco Capac on the Isla Del Sol

There are a number of islands on Lake Titicaca, some of which play an important part in Inca mythology. The Isla del Sol (Sun Island), for instance, is believed to be the home of the Incan sun god, Inti. Additionally, this is the birth place, according to one Incan legend, of Manco Capac, the founder of the first Incan dynasty. In this legend, Manco Capac was brought up from the depths of Lake Titicaca by Inti. Manco Capac and his siblings were sent up to the earth by the sun god, and emerged from the cave of Pacaritambo (or the waters of Lake Titicaca, according to another version of the legend). Manco Capac was carrying a golden staff, and was instructed to build a Temple of the Sun on the spot where the staff sank into the earth. Using underground caves, the siblings travelled to Cusco, where they built a temple in honor of their father, Inti.


c0d79f  No.2057390

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c0d79f  No.2058025

I just had a silly thought. Let's for a second pretend all the mythology is 'literally' true. Mythology around the world seems to be identical for all intents and purposes. And one common theme is the notion of the Storm God fighting the Sea God.

So, now, what side is Q on?

Zeus vs Typhoon

Calm before [the STORM] = Zeus

The Phoenicians were the "Sea People" = Typhoon

Are we about to witness a new battle of the gods?

(I'm not saying I actually believe this, just throwing it out there)

0dc429  No.2058672


Well if you think about it, that's not such a crazy reality. In our text book history, every time a civilization experiences a cataclysm, we lose decades or centuries of technological advancement. Ancient Rome had running water while Medieval London used shit buckets. Preservation of knowledge is difficult in times of societal collapse.

c0d79f  No.2063125

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I think I just got a new lead on the Carthaginians (aka Phoenicians aka Canaanites)

They didn't really have their own army!

They were merchants through and through. Anyone could hold a place in government, as long as you had the wealth to be worthy of it. Lose your money? Lose your power. They were very money centrist. So much so, that they eventually did something rather radical on such a large scale. Instead of having their own citizens die in war, they're rich.. so they got others to die for them!


And they had an edge in this game because of their trade routes they were able to scout the best fighters from the known world to fight for them.

Why is this important? Well, I feel like this is where the "Banksters" came from. Think about it, think all the way forward to the big wars such as Napolean and the World Wars. The Banksters played both sides right? Well, another way of looking at is they 'owned' both sides. They were secretly mercenaries to the cabal.

After their final defeat to the Romans do you think these uber rich folks just retired? No. They learned some tricks along the way. They probably realised running a nation is a lot of bother, instead they could focus on power alone and answer to no nation and never fear being conquered since they'd instead spread out and be everywhere.


From Wikipedia:

Growth of Mercenary Forces

After the Punic defeats during the Sicilian Wars of the 5th and 4th centuries BC, in which large numbers of Carthaginian citizens had been killed, the Carthaginian Senate set about enlisting mercenary forces in order to replenish the ranks of the Carthaginian army, an extraordinary technique that Carthage had employed since the late 6th century BC. Beginning with the reign of King Hanno the Navigator in 480 BC, Carthage regularly began employing Iberian infantry and Balearic slingers to support Carthaginian spearmen in Sicily, a practice that would continue until the destruction of Carthage in 146 BC.

Punic recruiters toured all corners of the Mediterranean, attracting mercenaries and fugitive slaves. Gauls, Ligurians, Numidians, Libyans, Greeks, and especially Iberians. were extensively recruited by Carthage. Troops were recruited both by simple monetary contracts and through partnerships established through treaties with other states and tribes.

Oh, their rulers were called "Suffets" which basically translates to "Judges". What other culture didn't have kings but preferred to call their rulers Judges? Interesting….

c0d79f  No.2063400

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I usally find the military side of things a bit boring. Just one battle after another. But I find it no coincidence that the Phoenicians hold the record, TO THIS DAY, for the bloodiest battle in history!!

Relevant to the idea of Blood Libel or sacrifice.

Read this:

Much has been said about the Battle of Cannae – an encounter which had resulted in the highest loss of human life in a single day in any battle recorded in history. In terms of sheer numbers, the bloody day probably accounted for over 40,000 Roman deaths (the figure is put at 55,000 by Livy; and 70,000 by Polybius), which equated to about 80 percent of the Roman army fielded in the battle! To put things into perspective, the worst day in the history of the British Army usually pertains to the first day of the Battle of the Somme in 1916, where they lost around 20,000 men. But the male population of Rome in 216 BC is estimated to be around 400,000 (thus the Battle of Cannae possibly took away around 1/10th – 1/20th of Roman male population, considering there were also allied Italic casualties), while Britain had a population of around 41,608,791 (41 million) at the beginning of 1901, with half of them expected to be males. However objectively beyond just baleful numbers, the encounter in itself was a set-piece triumph for Hannibal, with the general’s strategy even dictating the very choice of the battlefield itself.

Cannae and its ruined citadel had long been used as a food magazine by the Romans with provisions for grain oil and other crucial items. Hannibal Barca knew about this supply scope, and willfully made his army march towards Cannae (in June, 216 BC) for over 120 km from their original winter quarters at Gerunium. Interestingly, the camp of the Carthaginian army was just set above verdant agricultural fields with ripening crops – which could provide easy foraging to the snugly quartered troops. In other words, the chosen location and its advantages surely drummed up the morale of these soldiers, while strengthening their resolve and dedication for their commander. However at the same time, there was a more cunning side to Hannibal’s choice of Cannae – (possibly) unbeknownst to his army. That is because Rome was still dependent on the grain grown in native Italy (while seeking alternative corn supplies from Sicily), especially from the region of Apulia where Cannae was located. Simply put, the choice of Cannae was an intentional ploy to provoke the Romans to give direct battle – as opposed to the Fabian strategy of delaying. This once again alludes to Hannibal’s confidence and craftiness when it came to military affairs and logistics.

c0d79f  No.2063620


Strange. Hannibal probably could have swept through Rome but instead his army fell apart not so long after winning this epic battle. He went on to be a (really successful) Statesman in Carthage and literally Made Carthage Great Again. He brought the wealth back and was even to raise the war debt owed to Rome (expected to take 40 years) and offer them as a single lump sum (which was refused!!!).

Anyway, this pretty much marks the slow decline of Carthage from this point on. Could it be that Hannibal, the god damn military GENIUS that he was, thought of a better more ambitious plan for his people? Retool and spread out to the world. Blend into the world, and climb the ranks of power everywhere at once, and you will conquer the world without an army. Just spitballin' here.

Interestingly enough, it was the Battle of Cannae that was ultimately responsible for Hannibal’s unceremonious call back to Carthage (in 203 BC) after 15 years of remaining undefeated on Italian soil. In the post years of the Cannae incident, the Roman leadership came to a realization that they couldn’t counter Hannibal’s genius in conventional warfare. As a result, they reverted to the defensive Fabian strategy (named after Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus) which basically entailed a guerrilla-warfare type scenario with internal lines of communications. In other words, the Romans rigorously avoided open-field battles, while resorting to hit-and-run and harassing tactics that afflicted the stretched Carthaginian lines and patrols who were regularly dispatched for foraging.

This predicament was further exacerbated when Hannibal Barca had to provide garrisons for the newly defected cities in south of Italy. This took away much of his precious manpower that had already deteriorated due to previous battles, skirmishes and attrition. Moreover, much of Hannibal’s army was composed of mercenaries of different nationalities – and they were neither suited to siege warfare or garrison duty, and thus many of them started to desert en masse. So slowly but surely, the once grand expeditionary force that made its way to Italy via the Alps, was now only a shadow of itself. By 203 BC, even chances of arriving reinforcements from Carthage or Iberia went slim, with both of his brothers being soundly defeated. And ultimately, Hannibal himself had to answer the desperate call from his own Barcid war party, which was one of the two major political factions of Carthage. So the general and some of his trusted mercenaries finally decided to set sail for Africa. And thus ended the epoch of Hannibal Barca in Italy – paradoxically brought on by his incredible victory at the Battle of Cannae.

c0d79f  No.2064860

So there's this little village in NY called Carthage.

Ironic, isn't it? It was almost completely burned to the ground, but rose from the ashes. Twice. Once in 1861 and again in 1884.

Of course, there's a Freemasonry lodge there. Started up in 1850, and were most happy to help out lighting the fire– I mean, rebuilding after the fire



WARRANT: The warrant in possession of the Lodge is dated June 7, 1850.

The name or number has never been changed.

MINUTES: Intact.

The Lodge was organized in the early part of the year 1850. The charter members were:

Eli West. Joseph Crowner.

Kellogg E. Parker. William F. Strong.

William A. Peck. Reuben Rice.

Suel Gilbert.

The Lodge was constituted June 24, 1850, in the Baptist Church at Carthage, by R.'. W.'. ALONSON SKINNER, and the following

officers were installed:

ELI WEST, Master.

JOSEPH CROWNER, Senior Warden.


KELLOGG E. PARKER, Junior Warden.


WILLIAM A. PECK, Secretary.

REUBEN RICE, Senior Deacon.

SUEL GILBERT, Junior Deacon.

The first meeting place was in a wooden structure on the bank of the Black River, where it remained for several years, when a

loft in the upper part of the Walsh and Myers block was secured, which the members of the Lodge arranged and fitted up in a

convenient form for the use of the Lodge, the members volunteering to do the necessary work, much of which was done by lamp

light. In 1896 it moved into the Strickland Building, where it still has its quarters.

In the autumn of 1884 a disastrous fire destroyed the greater part of the village of Carthage. Fully two-thirds of the inhabitants

were without shelter, their homes having been destroyed and the industries of the village were paralyzed.

On November 29th a circular letter was issued by M.’. W.'. WILLIAM A. BRODIE, calling attention to this calamity and soliciting aid

for the sufferers. He said in the letter: "Among the sufferers twenty-eight brethren of our Masonic household, members of Carthage

Lodge, No. 158, together with their families, have been made homeless." In response to his appeal the sum of $4.377.37 was

contributed toward the relief of these unfortunate brethren and their families.

The Lodge was represented at the laying of the corner-stone and dedication of the Home at Utica.

Several of the organizers of Carthage Lodge were members of Champion Lodge, No. 29, of Champion. This Lodge was

warranted as No. 146. December 3. 1806. It continued to work until June 5, 1834, when its warrant was declared forfeited by the

Grand Lodge.

At a session of the Grand Lodge held December 7, 1836, W.'. WILLIAM H. SHUMWAY, a Grand Visitor, reported that on November

21, 1835, he had revived the Lodge, held an election and installed its officers.

It then became No. 29 and continued to meet regularly for several years. On June 3, 1862, the Grand Secretary reported that

this Lodge had surrendered its warrant.


A. E. Kilby. Assemblyman. James A. Cutterson. Assemblyman.

C. J. Clark, Assemblyman.


1850. Eli West.

1851. Eli West.

1852. Eli West.

1853. Eli West.

1854. Joseph Crowner.

1855. Joseph Crowner.

1856. Eli West.

1857. Eli West.

1858. William A. Peck.

1859. Eli West.

1860. N. D. Ferguson.

1861. N. D. Ferguson.

1862. Joseph Crowner.

1863. Charles T. Hammond.

1864. Charles T. Hammond.

1865. Charles T. Hammond.

1866. George M. Brown.

1867. George M. Brown.

1868. George M. Brown.

1869. Henry J. Kellogg.

1870. Henry J. Kellogg.

1871. L. G. Peck.

1872. James Pringle.

1873. James Pringle.

1874. James Pringle.

1875. James Pringle.

1876. James Pringle.

1877. James Pringle.

1878. James Pringle.

1879. James Pringle.

1880. James Pringle.

1881. Orrin S. Lewis.

1882. Orrin S. Lewis.

1883. John L. Norton.

1884. John L. Norton.

1885. Lloyd G. Chase.

1886. Lloyd G. Chase.

1887. Lloyd G. Chase.

1888. Hiram Houghton.

1889. William C. Sherwood.

1890. James Pringle.

1891. Harris J. Radin.

1892. Harris J. Radin.

1893. L. D. Thompson.

1894. L. D. Thompson.

1895. Leander E. Bossuot.

1896. Frank A. Dexter.

1897. Charles F. Adams.

1898. Charles F. Adams.

1899. John T. Wood.

1900. James A. Cutterson.

1901. Fred M. Wing.

1902. Fred M. Wing.

1903. Charles W. Shaffer.

1904. Charles W. Shaffer.

1905. Arthur W. Thompson.

1906. Arthur W. Thompson.

1907. Charles W. Shaffe

c0d79f  No.2065006

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The Phoenicians, despite their extensive trading empires, began minting coins relatively late. Siculo-Carthaginian currency began to be issued in the mid-4th century and probably preceded Phoenicia's own Tyrian shekels, which developed c. 300 bc.[2] Carthage was also the first known state to utilize lightweight, flexible leather promissory notes.[3][4][5]

Carthage issued ½-shekel,[6] shekel (7.20 g),[7] 1⅔-shekel, double shekel, and triple shekel coins.[8] 5-shekel pieces were issued in Sicily.[9] It used gold, silver, electrum, bronze, and billon for its coins but did not make great use of them in North Africa. Instead, many of the surviving caches come from Carthage's holdings on Sardinia and Sicily.[10] On Sardinia, a substantial amount of bronze coinage was struck during the First Punic War and again during the attempt to recover the island amid the Second.[11] A large mass of bronze and silver coins and smaller issues in gold and electrum were struck on Sicily under administrators described as mhsbm.[12] The Siculo-Carthaginian issues of the First Punic War include one series featuring Melqart ("Hercules") obverse and a horse's head reverse.[9] More commonly, Carthaginian currency featured a female head identified as the goddess Tanit.[13] One issue of bronze coins in two denominations—Tanit the god of sun on the obverse and a galloping horse reverse—was coined at Kerkouane on Cape Bon during the resistance to the invasion of Regulus amid the First Punic War.[10] A great deal of highly debased coins were struck at the end of the First Punic War, however, to deal with the empire's revolting mercenaries.[14]

Between the First and Second Punic Wars, Carthage only issued bronze coins in North Africa,[14] although the Barcids issued gold and silver coins in Spain[7] bearing the head of Melqart obverse and a horse and palm tree reverse.[15] The gold coins were produced at a weight of 7.50 g, reflecting a value of 12 silver shekels each at a bullion exchange rate of 1:11⅓.[7] Spanish expansion and Roman plunder permitted issues in precious metals during the Second Punic War,[14] including two large silver issues for use on Sicily.[16] One set of half-shekels featured a diademed male head obverse and elephant reverse; another featured a male head with grain wreath obverse and a galloping horse reverse.[17] By the war's end, bronze was again being used[14] and, following the war, debased silver.[18] The shekel also decreased in Barcid areas from 7.2 to around 7.0 g over the course of the war.[7] Bronze coins similarly varied in weight between 8 and 10 g owing to varying exchange rates between it and the silver currency.[7] The last issues before the Third Punic War attest to the city's revitalization, as they are again pure silver[18] with a serrate edge.[19]

Numidian coins also circulated but were entirely of bronze.[20]

Recently, it has been proposed that the Germanic penny, penning, Pfennig, &c. may derive from an early borrowing of Punic pn (Pane or Pene, "Face"), as the face of Carthaginian fertility goddess Tanit was represented on nearly all Carthaginian currency.[21] The theory is, however, still disputed. Similarly, the supposed discovery of a cache of Carthaginian coins on Corvo in 1749 is the basis for supposing that the Carthaginians reached the Azores, but remains contentious.[22]

c0d79f  No.2065066

File: fa2dd7f603c3d50⋯.jpg (126.99 KB, 605x758, 605:758, 2018-07-06_22-39-30.jpg)

I bet we're all thinking that the Templar's were the first smart bankers who issues promisary notes for gold that can be 'cashed' elsewhere?

Nope. Of all fucking people, the Carthaginians/Phoenicians invented this!!


c0d79f  No.2065250

Don't fuck with Astarte (aka Aphrodite)


From there they marched against Egypt: and when they were in the part of Syria called Palestine, Psammetichus king of Egypt met them and persuaded them with gifts and prayers to come no further. [2] So they turned back, and when they came on their way to the city of Ascalon in Syria, most of the Scythians passed by and did no harm, but a few remained behind and plundered the temple of Heavenly Aphrodite.1 [3] This temple, I discover from making inquiry, is the oldest of all the temples of the goddess, for the temple in Cyprus was founded from it, as the Cyprians themselves say; and the temple on Cythera was founded by Phoenicians from this same land of Syria. [4] But the Scythians who pillaged the temple, and all their descendants after them, were afflicted by the goddess with the “female” sickness: and so the Scythians say that they are afflicted as a consequence of this and also that those who visit Scythian territory see among them the condition of those whom the Scythians call “Hermaphrodites”.2

1 The great goddess (Mother of Heaven and Earth) worshipped by Eastern nations under various names—Mylitta in Assyria, Astarte in Phoenicia: called Heavenly Aphrodite, or simply the Heavenly One, by the Greeks.

2 The derivation of this word is uncertain; it is agreed that the disease was a loss of virility. In Hdt. 4.67 ἐναρής = ἀνδρόγονος.

bb5219  No.2068239


good find

0dc429  No.2069201

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>Strange. Hannibal probably could have swept through Rome but instead his army fell apart not so long after winning this epic battle.

I assure you that is not the case. Hannibal was up against a man considered to be the greatest general in history; Scipio Africanus.

Scipio is very important to know if you're looking into the Punic wars. He changed the playing field in battle completely.

"His main achievements were during the Second Punic War where he is best known for defeating Hannibal at the final battle at Zama in 202 BC, one of the feats that earned him the agnomen Africanus. Prior to this battle (near modern Zama, Tunisia) Scipio also conquered Carthage's holdings in the Iberian peninsula, culminating in the Battle of Ilipa (near Alcalá del Río, Spain) in 206 BC against Hannibal's brother Mago Barca."


>Could it be that Hannibal, the god damn military GENIUS that he was, thought of a better more ambitious plan for his people?

He was forced back to the drawing board by a superior military tactician. I'm sure his plans weren't to retire and be a statesman. A military genius knows when to change strategies.

As they say, "When in Rome…".

And look what happened to Scipio Africanus in his later years;

"In his later years, he was tried for bribery and treason, unfounded charges that were only meant to discredit him before the public. Disillusioned by the ingratitude of his peers, Scipio left Rome and withdrew from public life."

That's no way to treat a man considered THE greatest general in history. Do you think maybe Hannibal was out for revenge over the only man that ever defeated him on the battlefield? Maybe…just maybe…

Do you find it strange that TO THIS VERY DAY Scipio's role in the downfall of Hannibal is still downplayed? Almost as if Hannibal did win in the end…

e09ae5  No.2076513


Despite the fact Raiders of the Lost Ark may have put the Ark of the Covenant into the realm of fantasy, I don't think it is fantasy.

If it's not a larp then what is it?

What is it's purpose?

Will it be needed in the future?

The Ark of the Covenant also translated as the mercy seat is a gold covered wooden box 51"x31"x31" that God commanded Moses to build.

It housed manna - the food the Lord provided every morning collected by the Israelites in the 40yr wilderness trek - the Ten Commandment tablets and the top of Aaron's rod.

It's description is given in the OT Bible.

An acacia wood box covered in hammered gold sheet metal 'overlaid' with cherubim (angels) on either side with outstretched wings.

Most images have the angels with outstretched wings and look as though they were made from castings of gold although it doesn't mention castings only that it was 'overlaid' with gold. Because of that I believe the Cherubim angels were shaped out of the sheet metal not cast.

Between the cherubim is where the Lord would speak from. The Israelites would carry it with poles never touching it as commanded ahead of them and into battle. Later it was placed in the inner sanctum of the temple behind a large thick cloth curtain where the priest's would enter once a year sprinkling animal blood on it to cover the sins of the nation of Israel.

At some point the Ark went missing from Israel and any mention of it in the OT ceased.

During Jesus' time it was apparently not present in the temple which begs an interesting question - how did Israel perform its mandatory yearly blood sprinkle onto the mercy seat?

What was the Ark of the Covenant in reality? I believe it's purpose is hidden in the translation mercy seat.

How does a box get translated mercy seat it's not even close to a normal translation of a box in any language? What does 'mercy seat' mean?

I think there is a future use for the Ark of the Covenant important to everyone especially dark forces such as Luciferians and other Satanists.

The Bible says at Jesus' return he will assume His rightful place on the throne.

I believe the Ark of the Covenant is a chair, the throne of God and the reason for the odd translation Mercy Seat and I think Satanists believe if they have possession of it they can prevent the return of Christ and if not the return then maybe they can block his ascension to His throne.

When you're desperate you would probably grasp at any hope however unlikely.

I wonder if all the searching is to find the Ark of the Covenant to prevent the King from assuming the throne.

e09ae5  No.2076575


Meant to mention the blood was sprinkled on the throne as an offering to cover the nation of Israel - an image of the future Christ on His throne also an offering only an improved offering for All Nations of the Earth.

8e54af  No.2078059


After my exhaustivce research……

Mercy seat


According to the Hebrew Bible, the mercy seat (Hebrew: הַכַּפֹּֽרֶת‬ ha-kappōreṯ) was the gold lid with two cherubim beaten out of the ends of it to cover and create the space into which God would appear. This gold cover was placed on the Ark of the Covenant. This was connected with the rituals of the Day of Atonement; where God did appear. The term also appears in later Jewish sources, and twice in the New Testament, from where it has significance in Christian theology.

The English phrase mercy seat is a translation of the Hebrew kapporeth (in the Masoretic text) and Greek ἱλαστήριον (hilasterion; in the Septuagint) by William Tyndale, influenced by the German word Gnadenstuhl as in the Luther Bible; Gnadenstuhl, literally meaning seat of grace.

The Babylonian Conquest and aftermath


In 587 BC, the Babylonians destroyed Jerusalem and Solomon's Temple. There is no record of what became of the Ark in the Books of Kings and Chronicles. An ancient Greek version of the biblical third Book of Ezra, 1 Esdras, suggests that Babylonians took away the vessels of the ark of God, but does not mention taking away the Ark:[58]

…… And they took all the holy vessels of the Lord, both great and small, with the vessels of the ark of God, and the king's treasures, and carried them away into Babylon

In Rabbinic literature, the final disposition of the Ark is disputed. Some rabbis hold that it must have been carried off to Babylon, while others hold that it must have been hidden lest it be carried off into Babylon and never brought back.[59] A late 2nd-century rabbinic work known as the Tosefta states the opinions of these rabbis that Josiah, the king of Judah, stored away the Ark, along with the jar of manna, and a jar containing the holy anointing oil, the rod of Aaron which budded and a chest given to Israel by the Philistines.[60] This was said to have been done in order to prevent their being carried off into Babylon as had already happened to the other vessels. Rabbi Eliezer and Rabbi Shimon, in the same rabbinic work, state that the Ark was, in fact, taken into Babylon. Rabbi Yehudah, dissenting, says that the Ark was stored away in its own place, meaning, somewhere on the Temple Mount.

But we all know:

The Nazis take Jones and Marion to an area where the Ark will be opened and tie them to a post to observe. Belloq, dressed as an Israelite high priest, performs a ceremonial opening of the Ark and finds it full of sand. Angelic specters emerge from the Ark, destroying the equipment the Nazis are using to film the opening, and Jones tells Marion to close her eyes and not look. Belloq and the others look on in astonishment as the apparitions are suddenly revealed to be angels of death. A vortex of flame forms above the Ark and shoots bolts of fiery energy into the gathered Nazi soldiers, killing them all. Belloq, Toht and Dietrich all scream in terror as the Ark turns its fury on them: Dietrich's head shrivels up, Toht's face is melted off his skull and Belloq's head explodes. Flames then engulf the remains of the doomed assembly, save for Jones and Marion, and the pillar of fire rises into the sky. The Ark's lid is blasted high into the air before dropping back down onto the Ark and sealing it. Jones and Marion find their ropes burned off and embrace.

In Washington, D.C., the Army Intelligence agents inform Jones and Marcus Brody that the Ark is someplace safe and will be studied by "top men". The Ark is then shown being stored in a giant government warehouse among countless similar crates.

We have it all

d819e3  No.2081260


Many people forget this……….In the book, the action took place around Saturn, the book and the film changed this, I believe as an advert and to drum up interest for the Pioneer 10 mission. Pioneer 11 did fly past Saturn but it was nothing special. NASA and Kubrick worked together to move emphasis to Jupiter.

c0d79f  No.2083839

File: c081dcb9f1b3b16⋯.jpg (136.33 KB, 689x852, 689:852, swastika3.jpg)

Could it be possible that the infamous pedo swirl might relate to the swastika?

f6807d  No.2087864

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It also resembles the "key grecko". It can be found everywhere in the world.It is old. It doesn't necessarily have the four directions upon it, or Arms. East West North and South. It is found with-in ancient temple design.As in the Most Holy of Holy room will be the center of the square. With dimensions measured perfectly. I believe it would be one of the Greek temples. However it can be found in Hopi history, China, Greese, Rome, Everywhere.

f6807d  No.2087895


I believe that is a good start. Like I was saying about the arms on the design it represents the four directions and that is what the Nazi's goal was.It was to dominate the world.

aa8384  No.2087960

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

William Copper

Dark to light!!!!

Watch the cockroaches scatter.

Great listen for those still learning thy enemy.

f6807d  No.2088409


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Spirals are the symbol for eternity. I have seen many other meanings spoke of but the logic and truth is it is FOREVER.

Female symbol is a circle.

Male symbol is a line.

When the circle and line become one and create a third it provides the vehicle into eternity. A spiral.

f6807d  No.2089043

c0d79f  No.2097015

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

I think this video is very important. Watch it on double speed if you like.

c0d79f  No.2097303


Especially around the 50min mark!

This might be the Nordic connection I was looking for originally from the first thread.

Thors Hammer = Swastika

f8fd1a  No.2109237

Ok. Here is the hard won shit I got. Use it.


Departed Cush/Punt/Ptah

Conquered Babylon, there were also Cushitic kings of Edom if I remember correctly.

The seven great water sages, the Apkallu (cognate: Abgaal, modern Somali sub-qabiil in and around the Mogadishu area. Related term: Gallu. Demon. Cognate of gaal: non-Muslim, Somali. Abyssinian Semitic languages, derogatory term for Oromo, a Cushtic pastoralist nation. Arabic: ghul/ghoul)

followed to establish or reestablish a temple.

Baal-Nimrood banishes them and establishes himself as divine ruler.

Is challenged by Hayk. Hayk defeats Baal-Nimrood and escapes to Lake Van. A second army follows and is defeated. This is the birth of the Armenian people, circa 2400BC.

If you can hang with this, you'll get my totally unsourced conjectures predating all of that.

c0d79f  No.2109390


Totally hanging with it. Conjecture away!

96b461  No.2109656

You guys are doing great work on this thread!!!!!

I have been looking at the TEmple of BAal in ruins in Syria.

I discovered that apparently, the worshipers of Baal sacrificed their own children and buried them under the foundations of buildings and walls. I believe the wall of Jericho is an example.

Could be why God made the wall fall down.

Could be why many elite families sacrifice their kids. … to build their businesses .

Can't find the source I read originally, but her is one.


c0d79f  No.2110090

File: e666dfb51320531⋯.jpg (39.38 KB, 320x302, 160:151, Mithras2[1].jpg)


Look at where Bloomberg put their European Headquarters


Bloomberg’s new European headquarters in London sits upon one of the most important archaeological sites in the U.K., the ancient Roman Temple of Mithras. This temple once stood in the centre of Londinium – the settlement founded by the Romans on the banks of the River Thames nearly 2,000 years ago.

During planning for our building’s construction, we made a commitment to restore this ancient site and make it publicly accessible for visitors to experience the rich history of London.

As a result, London Mithraeum Bloomberg SPACE was born. A free cultural destination underneath the new Bloomberg London office that showcases the reconstructed Temple of Mithras, more than 600 remarkable Roman artefacts uncovered during recent excavations, and a series of rotating contemporary art commissions that respond to the site’s history.

f8fd1a  No.2114382


Abzu is Eden

The people of Adam/Atom/Atun etc were ejected from Eden for disobeying God and submitting to the wisdom of the Serpent, that of Ptah/Satan/Iblis depending on who you ask. Allegorically this is the transition of humanity from lower apes/"innocence"/fall of Man to our modern incarnation in which we still strive to establish taboos over cabalists who don't want an end to cannibalism and incest and rape. We're not just animals anymore.


Abil=ability, Qabil=tradition. That "qab" in Qabil is the root of Qaballah, the Kaa'ba in Mecca, and I encourage everyone else to do their own work and challenge the shit out of everything because it will reap wild dividends over the historical and scientific obscurantism of our era.

Isaiah 11:11. Cush as one of the nations where Lord recovered the “remnant of his people”.

So Adam gets expelled, right off the bat Cain murders Abel and SET has to pick up the slack. What do Cain's descendants do? The Bible isn't really about them, or Ham/Xam for that matter. It's a very Shem and Japheth story.

What do they do? Wander. Wander the wastes of Punt in penance until they follow the birds and the camels to water sources and get the hang of it and camels end up domesticated, circa at latest 3000BC.

The Ginger Wars of Beled-Nagara had been settled for roughly 600 years at that point, and Mesopotamia was beginning to recover from its first (known) collapse, likely caused by some asshole bringing ginger from India via sea rather than overland and undermining Beled-Nagara's monopoly on Mesopotamian distribution. A big war was fought. It sucked. A conjecture for another time. (SEE ALSO: LADY PO NAGARA OF VIETNAM)

Peoples of Punt, while not wholly monotheistic at this point, according to biblical and oral traditions, established worship of EEBE WAAQ. This one just look up and read for yourself. Crows say waaq. Allah al-Waaqin is mentioned in Quran 13:37, indicating that a significant portion of pre-Islamic/early Islamic Horn of Africa were already monotheism.

Punt was known as the Land of God/The God. It was the source of incense which was profoundly valuable in the era.

"Hatshepsut established the trade networks that had been disrupted during the Hyksos occupation of Egypt during the Second Intermediate Period, thereby building the wealth of the eighteenth dynasty. She oversaw the preparations and funding for a mission to the Land of Punt. This trading expedition to Punt was roughly during Hatshepsut's ninth year of reign. It set out in her name with five ships, each measuring 70 feet (21 m) long bearing several sails[dubious – discuss] and accommodating 210 men that included sailors and 30 rowers.[citation needed]Many trade goods were bought in Punt, notably frankincense and myrrh."

Also obsidian

At some point after this, and by approximately 200 years before Julius Caesar, Cushites controlled the entire cinnamon route from India to the point the Greeks and Romans believed it was being produced in Punt.

Anyway that's enough for now. Next post will be about Gād and Gadaa, and the fundamental struggle of Gadaa vs Qabiil that persists to this day. Hope you enjoyed. Please correct me or fill in blanks!

c0d79f  No.2117373

Ishtar is a mean bitch!


narrates the celebration of the victory of Gilgamesh, and his repulse of Ishtar's love advances (Haupt, pp. 42-50).

He cleansed his weapons, he polished his arms.

He took off the armour that was upon him. He put away

his soiled garments and put on clean raiment;

clothed himself with his ornaments, put on his diadem (?).

Gilgamesh placed upon his head the crown and put on his diadem (?).

To win the favour and love of Gilgamesh, Ishtar, the lofty goddess desired (and said unto him):

"Come, Gilgamesh, be thou my spouse,

Give, O give unto me thy manly strength.

Be thou my husband, let me be thy wife, and I will set thee in a chariot (embossed) with precious stones and gold,

with wheels made of gold, and shafts of sapphires (?).

Large kudanu-lions thou shalt harness to it.

Under sweet-smelling cedars thou shalt enter into our house.

And] when thou enterest into our house

Thou shalt sit upon?] a lofty throne, and people shall kiss thy feet;

kings and lords and rulers shall bow down before thee.

Whatever mountain and country produces, they shall bring to thee as tribute.

* * *] thy sheep shall bear twin-ewes.

* * *] mules they shall bring as tribute.

Thy [majesty?] shall sit upon a chariot that is splendid,

drawn?] by a span that has no equal.

But Gilgamesh opened his mouth and spoke unto her; said unto the lofty goddess Ishtar:

The beginning lines of his speech are almost lost, only a few fragments being preserved. Gilgamesh refused the proffered love of Ishtar, reminding her that all her former lovers have come to grief through her, and said that he was not willing to share their fate.

"Where is thy husband Tammuz, who was to be forever?

What, indeed, has become of the allallu-bird * * *?

Well, I will tell thee plainly the dire result of thy coquetries.

To Tammuz, the husband of thy youth,

thou didst cause weeping and didst bring grief upon him every year.

The allallu-bird, so bright of colours, thou didst love;

But its wing thou didst break and crush,

so that now it sits in the woods crying: 'O my wing!'

Thou didst also love a lion, powerful in his strength,

seven and seven times didst thou dig a snaring pit for him.

Thou didst also love a horse, pre-eminent in battle,

but with bridle (?), spur, and whip thou didst force it on,

didst force it to run seven double-leagues at a stretch.

And when it was tired and wanted to drink, thou still didst force it on,

thereby causing weeping and grief to its mother Si-li-li.

Thou didst also love a shepherd of the flock * * *

who continually poured out incense before thee,

and, for thy pleasure, slaughtered lambs day by day.

Thou didst smite him, and turn him into a tiger,

so that his own sheep-boys drove him away,

and his own dogs tore him to pieces.

Thou didst also love a farmer, a gardener of thy father,

who continually brought unto thee dainties,

and daily adorned thy table for thee.

Thine eye thou didst cast on him and turn his mind, saying:

'Oh, my farmer boy, let us enjoy thy manly strength.

Let thy hand come forth and take away my virginity' (?).

But the farmer spoke unto thee and said:

'Me!—what is this that thou askest of me?

Mother, thou hast not baked, and I will not eat;

The food that I shall eat is bad and bitter,

and it is covered with cold and numbness.'

And when thou didst hear such words,

thou didst smite him and change him into a cripple(?)

And didst thus compel him to lie on a couch,

so that he could no more rise up from his bed.

And now thou wouldst also love me; but like unto them I would fare."

When Ishtar heard such words

she became enraged, and went up into heaven,

and came unto Anu [her father], and

To Antum (her mother) she went, and thus spoke (unto them):

"My father, Gilgamesh has insulted me;

Gilgamesh has upbraided me with my evil deeds,

my deeds of evil and of violence."

And Anu opened his mouth and spoke—

said unto her, the mighty goddess Ishtar:

"Thou shalt not remain so disconsolate,

even though Gilgamesh has upbraided thee with thy evil deeds,

thy deeds of evil and of violence."

And Ishtar opened her mouth and said,

she spoke unto Anu, her father:

"My father, create [for me] a heaven-bull."

c0d79f  No.2117383


The following seventy lines have come down in a very mutilated condition; and the meaning can only be surmised. As Dr. Jeremias has ingeniously pointed out, the lines remind us of the threat of Gilgamesh, spoken before the ocean palace (Tablet X, Col. I), and especially of the analogous conditions found in the account of the "Descent of Ishtar into the Netherworld," where the courageous goddess in her wrath forces entrance to the Netherworld. As she threatened there, so now here, in heaven, she would smash everything, if her will and wish is not granted. Anu, her father, though hesitating, is forced to accede and creates the heaven-bull. And now Ishtar breaks out in these words: "I will have revenge." The account of the fight of the two heroes, Gilgamesh and Enkidu, against the heaven-bull is almost completely lost. Lines 122 and 123 appear to say:

They?] hunted him and Enkidu [attacked?] the heaven-bull,

* * * and grasped him by his heavy tail.

On an old Babylonian cylinder representing the fight we see the bull standing on its hind feet, Enkidu holding the monster by its head and tail, while Gilgamesh plunges the dagger into its heart. We can also gather from the remains of the lines that three hundred heroes took part in the fight. After the heroes had killed the bull and had thus satisfied their hearts, they brought unto Shamash, the sun god, a thank offering. The narrative then continues:

Then Ishtar went up to the wall of Uruk, the strong-walled;

she uttered a piercing cry and broke out into a curse, (saying):

"Woe to Gilgamesh, who thus has grieved me,

and has killed the heaven-bull."

But Enkidu, hearing these words of Ishtar,

tore out the right side of the heaven-bull,

and threw it into her face, (saying):

"And thus I will, indeed, defeat thee;

and I will do unto thee even as I have done to him;

I will hang its heart(?) upon thy side, forsooth."

Then Ishtar gathered her followers, that ruin men,

the hierodules and the sacred prostitutes.

Over the right side of the heaven-bull she wept and lamented.

But Gilgamesh assembled the people, and all his workmen.

The workmen admired the size of its horns.

Thirty minas of precious stones was their value;

half of an inch (?) in size was their thickness (?).

Six measures of oil they both could hold.

For the anointing of his god Lugal-tur-da8 he dedicated it.

He brought the horns and hung them up in the shrine of his lordship.

Then they washed their hands in the river Euphrates,

took the road, and set out (for the city),

and rode through the streets of the city of Uruk.

The people of Uruk assembled and looked with astonishment [at the heroes?].

Gilgamesh then spoke to the servants (?) of [his palace?]

and cried out unto them, (saying):

"Who is glorious among the heroes?

Who shines among the men?"

"Gilgamesh?] is glorious among the heroes,

Gilgamesh?] shines among the men!"

b5aba3  No.2122300

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f8fd1a  No.2122588

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a9bda1  No.2152763

You all are a bunch of idiots. You will never find the truth because you refuse to accept the Bible as truth. Every one of you is a poor lost sole. Willing to read and believe anything except the the word of God. Is it because you are unable to understand it? Do you know why it is impossible for you to understand it?

You are fools, fools who lead fools.

96b461  No.2153025


you come here and whine and complain without explaining anything.

How is that helping?

why would you go through the trouble to do that?

26d02d  No.2155898


Many people here believe the words in the Bible to be truth.

In fact their faith is strengthened and expanded by what is being talked about here.

There are a few threads discussing scriptures here as well.

Obvious shill.

d819e3  No.2160295


Lost SOUL ahhmmm - anon you appear to have little understanding yourself. Check before preaching!

8e54af  No.2160762


Wow, that is a pretty persuasive, coherent approach. You might ask "WWJD" . I don't recall much ranting and raving towards the non-believers.

in his day

38f611  No.2184923

File: 9d7c44aa8d3e7ec⋯.png (44.33 KB, 1013x241, 1013:241, arm2.PNG)

File: e2d225f068b3450⋯.png (55.92 KB, 1007x320, 1007:320, army1.PNG)

some cool army insignias

https:// www.army.mil/info/organization/

1acc55  No.2185984

File: 646a95bd7d26d0f⋯.jpg (1.42 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Ishtar.jpg)


0dc429  No.2198764

File: c75cbd14e69e6ad⋯.png (41.73 KB, 704x544, 22:17, 7ad6a7114d3dae981b217c9554….png)

Here's a summary of what I have gathered from these threads.

Y is the keystone.

Y = Cult of the Sun/Bull >Deity changes physical form based on constellation aligned with the sun in the great year.

- Cannabilism and child sacrifice are common in ritualistic practice.

- Known for infiltrating nations and degrading from within until societal collapse is inevitable. >"If you can't beat them, join them!" "When in Rome!"

- Once target nation collapses, the symbolic Phoenix rises from the ashes and the cult moves on to the next society.

- Most likely formed in Canaan under the guise of a Jewish tribe. >i.e. - Gehenna - Child Sacrifice - Other Jewish tribes condemned these acts.

- Most likely founded the Phoenician Empire and created the western alphabet. >Y is the keystone. - What is Y in the Phoenician alphabet?

- Worship to ancient gods like Enki/Moloch/Baal/Lucifer/Astarte and many more of essentially the same gods regurgitated in different form.

- Many secret societies work for or with this ancient cult. >Masons, Knights Templar, Jesuits, Skull & Bones, etc.

Symbology of the cult are found in most cultures. The cult most likely influenced some of the greatest empires in history. >Phoenician, Minoan, Roman, American, etc.

Common cult symbol examples - The phoenix, the bull, the all seeing eye, pyramid, obelisk, and ram.

But they have many more symbols, handshakes, and codes. These will be their downfall.

Common signs that your society has been manipulated by the ancient Cult of the Sun:

- You praise a sun god >Son of God

- The form of your deity is determined by what constellation is aligned with the sun. >Jesus = Pisces = Fish = Present Constellation Sun Orientation

- Your culture appropriates pagan rituals >Christmas, Valentine's Day, Easter, etc.

- Common social degradation >Compromised moral values, child prostitution, slavery, etc.

- An egocentric perspective is common among the populace. >social media

- Your nation has a strong naval influence in the world. >sea fairing people

- Social warfare instead of a flourishing social community. >BLM - KKK - ANTIFA - NAZI = DIVIDE & CONQUER

This does not necessarily mean Jesus was some false prophet from the occult. Rather I believe that his intention was to unveil the occult and he was foiled by bad actors. Then they hollywood Jesus and he was re-appropriated to make people worship the sun god that the occult has always tricked people into worshipping since time written.

>darkness to light

c0d79f  No.2213986



c0d79f  No.2214021


>This does not necessarily mean Jesus was some false prophet from the occult. Rather I believe that his intention was to unveil the occult and he was foiled by bad actors. Then they hollywood Jesus and he was re-appropriated to make people worship the sun god that the occult has always tricked people into worshipping since time written.


You summed it up 100%, did you post this in the general as well? I think this is the crux of all our research in one post, along with that graphic another anon did above.

As for Jesus, I dunno.. I used to be religious.. then I considered myself an atheist.. and these days I'm so dizzy I'm not even sure. But I really feel like the Catholic Church was a "Phoenician" creation to turn the Gnostic Personal Jesus into a hierarchical king that's so far above you you can only access his forgiveness through a priest in confession. Confession.. hahahaha! Tell me all your dark secrets, son, I will forgive you!

28ceaf  No.2214970


A cursed sarcophagus

A unrecognizable sculpted bust which shows clear damage to destroy it

Sacrificed skeletons in sewage water.

"dated back to Ptolemaic period, which began around 323 B.C. — the year Alexander the Great died"

1d6edb  No.2215703


Holy cow…Russia wants Clinton!!


or am I seeing wrong…watch at 4:39

0dc429  No.2216124

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>did you post this in the general as well?

I posted a variation of this summary in the last bread. But I'm fine tuning it with every bake.

>As for Jesus, I dunno.. I used to be religious.. then I considered myself an atheist.. and these days I'm so dizzy I'm not even sure. But I really feel like the Catholic Church was a "Phoenician" creation to turn the Gnostic Personal Jesus into a hierarchical king that's so far above you you can only access his forgiveness through a priest in confession. Confession.. hahahaha! Tell me all your dark secrets, son, I will forgive you!

I completely agree, my experience has been similar. I don't know what the answer is. As a former Catholic, I feel like organized religion in general is a really bad idea.

fac6ec  No.2217134

We do not praise the sun god. Many have been deceived re: the fact that neither The Father nor The Son ever changed the Fourth Commandment. The Son did the will of The Father in Heaven. He asked for us to worship The Father and to Pray to The Father in The Name of The Sun. Jesus is a name we have been given to understand in our culture. The Son's name when interpreted from the original language is "Behold The Hand Behold The Nail" >>2198764


fac6ec  No.2217299


correction= In the name of the SON.

0dc429  No.2220054


I assume by "we" you mean Christian? I'm not claiming you personally are praising a "sun god" rather the symbolism is used as a signal to others in the know.

The intention behind your preacher/priest's message/actions during his public teachings is important. The subsequent energy you give to that sermon can be used for any purpose he pleases…that is if you believe in that kind of stuff. I'm speaking from experience as a former Catholic. Have you ever read into Papal magic?

c0d79f  No.2228693


8e54af  No.2228937


A few misconceptions.

Sumeria, Babylon pre-dated practices in Caanan,

The pagans practice ALL consisted of human sacrifices.

Pedophila, homosexuality and brother./sister marriages were common in Grrek Roman and Eqyptian cultures.

The monotheistic Hebrews prohibited the "wickedness" memtionaed above, while some of the their Hebrew cousins remained pagans (in Cannan). There was really such religion as Jewish after the unified Kindom in the area or Caanan. There were commonly known then as Israelites

There was a separation od Caanan into tow parts = a reduced area of 10 tribes in Caanan and 2 tribes broke off to for Judeah (the land of the Jews)

The Ca\ananites revertedto ot contijnues their wicked pagan religions, while the God-fearing Judean Israelites remained faithful

The Cannanites were invaded by their northern semitic tribes (assyrians?) and wiped out and scatterd into oblivion (possible escaping to, or take captive to northern/Assyrian lands (closer the area of the Khazars)

The Kingdom of Judeah was conquered an take into slavery into Babylon. Some maintained the "Jewish" faith and practices, while others assimilated into Babylon (when in Rome does as the Romans is a good analogy) God-fearing Jews shrunk in numbers with some adopting Babylonian culture and polytheism.

Cyrus invades babylon and allows Jew to return home to Judeah with capital in Jerusalem.

Story is getting too long, so I will suggest you read the history (mwhich is mostly the Old Testament.

I let out some pieces and time periods but this will give some who have a confused picture a little guidance to understand the written history.

I do't profess to be an expert, just a curious student of history, so might have been a little inaccurate (e.g . 1st invasion of Assyrains, might have been another group of northern tribes in the area of today's Syrian /western Iraq - boundaries were indistinct and fluid - Syria & Iraq are modern names for geographic places so easier to ID the general area.

Same with Khazar, but a series of invasion might likely scatter or capture the pagan Israelites towards the north west (Turkey/Armenia of today)

In summary: I suspect the lost tribes who were scattered consisten of the 10 tribes of pagan Israelites, plus some portion of the Judean that reverted to Babylonian paganisn.

Accordingly, is the Khazars theory is correct it wold most likely be the pagan Israelites, not the Judeans (Jews). In any case, it appears the there was at minimum two distinct groups of Israelite, all from early Caanan (before the split), but on from Judeah (2) tribes and one from Caanan (10 tribes)


Phoenician culture was early written language but disappeared, likely having been conquered by one or more of their neighbors or trading partners

Feel free to correct any significant errors - I am working solely from memory and may have muddle up some small parts.

My suggestion is read some of the Wikipedia articles. They are easier to read an a tad more objective (plz excuse misspellings - tired)

8e54af  No.2229041


As a side note: The Book of Revelations refers to

places(?) of Gog and Magog. Ancient maps so Magog in the general area we associate with Khararia. BTW - the poke Yiddish, not Hebrew.

Might a little perspective why their are some groups considered God-fearing Jews and others that were "different". Hard to tell but geography and languages indicate a geographic and Yiddish borrows from germanic languages, while Hebrew language does not.

Their bloodlines diverged as well somewhere well before the time of Jesus. No one has genealogical records that old but Y chromosome DNS should be distinctly different at some part of the chain. Male line stays pretty much the same through male descendants, and even mixed marriages won't change that. For example, only certain sections are relevant for family ancestry purposes. Mine is nearly identical to my grandfather back to 1640 AD.

The short version has 37 markers, I match 33 of 37 exactly and other three are off by tiny amount due to slight natural mutations. It is considered a mathematically certain match after 400 years. I have distant cousins that are 100% match to 67 markers

0dc429  No.2230162

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>Sumeria, Babylon pre-dated practices in Caanan

One could argue the region of Canaan was actually ruled by Sumerian kings at one point, but we don't really have a lot of recorded history to go off of until Canaan and though the practices pre-date this civilization, it seems to take on the form of an organized religion among the Hebrew tribes.

We only know bits and pieces of info about the Minoan empire but we know that pagan rituals happened

>Phoenician culture was early written language but disappeared, likely having been conquered by one or more of their neighbors or trading partners

The early written language of Phoenician culture and their trading system are all that honestly matter about the Phoenicians in relation to tracking this ancient cult. They have a lasting mark throughout western culture and they're a good identifier of occult activity.

I don't necessarily disagree with anything you've said but I'm painting with a broader strokes than you is all. We're trying to get the big picture here. Your information is educational, relevant and appreciated but a word of caution; don't get lost in the details. We're trying to cover the history of humankind here.

0dc429  No.2230174


*We only know bits and pieces of info about the Minoan empire but we know that pagan rituals happened. Trying to figure out the details of what led to their demise is irrelevant to the bigger picture. It's the same strategy over and over and over again. A phoenix rises from the ashes. What more do you need to know about their demise? We know how these people operate.

74b401  No.2230321

Some questions:

a) Why are "jews" (hebrews, israelites, …) not mentioned in ANY literature of the time, except that authored by themselves?

(Please show me ONE example that it is not so!).

b) Why are jews alluded to as antisocials/criminals since the the time of the romans?

c) What makes a people so regarded by ALL those with whom they have crossed paths worthy of saving?

d) Contemporaneous israel was founded by two clans which are generally considered as satanic: Windsors and Rothschilds.

- Given that: What about israel is "blessed by god"???

- What makes the people of israel (jews) more blessed than me???

Thanks for your consideration.

c0d79f  No.2231121


Pretty good! You mixed up part of the timeline.

The Phoenicians wanted to destroy the Israelites so they got their old buddies in Babylon to conquer them and exile them all.

When Persia defeated Babylon, they let the Israelites return and avenged them by destroying Phoenicia.

It's not a coincidence that Zoroaster was from Persia. Interesting how he lived around the time of Moses and Akhenaten…

c0d79f  No.2231164


This rabbit hole goes deep.

Why is there no history of the Phoenicians or Carthaginians written by themselves?

There's nothing special about the Jews, but there was something about the original Israelites. But that wasn't exclusive as revelations happened elsewhere in the world too to other tribes. This has nothing to do with race.

But consider that history is completely made up for Rome and Greece and ask yourself who wrote it?

They were hoping to utterly destroy whatever the Israelites figured out, but failed. They otherwise removed them from history but they couldn't completely remove their scriptures (though they tried)

Did you know there's literally no original sources for Roman or Greek history? All we have was "discovered" in the middle ages.

74b401  No.2231738

One last question:

- In what way is a psychopath different from a jew?

Re Phoenicians: There is a rock from antiquity on the coast Algeria or Morocco which heaps the destruction of the Phoenician civilization on "the hebrew".

b39527  No.2231927

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Maybe Nimrod was a Neanderthal? Seems like we were told Neanderthal was extinct, but what if they are just the Jews in disguise? Would explain A LOT

e87e21  No.2232151







Isis, Astarte, Ishtar, the Black Madonna.

If you were to hide your "faith" within the dominant structure (Judeo-Christain) you would cloak it within the dominant iconography. Right?

Madonna, from the sea, Venus, Aphrodite, the Morning/Evening Star. Cycle/Spiral.

Virgin mother and child = Isis and Osiris/Horus (phoenix rising).

Sauce: https:// cassandraeason.com/vierge_noir/index.htm

e87e21  No.2232185



e87e21  No.2232275

Nimrod Expedition

Three men in heavy clothing stand in line on an icy surface, next to a flagstaff from which flies the flag of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland

Jameson Adams, Frank Wild and Eric Marshall (from left to right) plant the Union Jack at their southernmost position, 88° 23', on 9 January 1909. The photograph was taken by expedition leader Ernest Shackleton.

The British Antarctic Expedition 1907–09, otherwise known as the Nimrod Expedition, was the first of three expeditions to the Antarctic led by Ernest Shackleton. Its main target, among a range of geographical and scientific objectives, was to be first to the South Pole. This was not attained, but the expedition's southern march reached a Farthest South latitude of 88° 23' S, just 97.5 nautical miles (180.6 km; 112.2 mi) from the pole. This was by far the longest southern polar journey to that date and a record convergence on either Pole.[a] A separate group led by Welsh Australian geology professor Edgeworth David reached the estimated location of the South Magnetic Pole, and the expedition also achieved the first ascent of Mount Erebus, Antarctica's second highest volcano.

The expedition lacked governmental or institutional support, and relied on private loans and individual contributions. It was beset by financial problems and its preparations were hurried. Its ship, Nimrod, was less than half of the size of Robert Falcon Scott's 1901–04 expedition ship Discovery, and Shackleton's crew lacked relevant experience. Controversy arose from Shackleton's decision to base the expedition in McMurdo Sound, close to Scott's old headquarters, in contravention of a promise to Scott that he would not do so. Nevertheless, although the expedition's profile was initially much lower than that of Scott's six years earlier, its achievements attracted nationwide interest and made Shackleton a public hero. The scientific team, which included the future Australasian Antarctic Expedition leader Douglas Mawson, carried out extensive geological, zoological and meteorological work. Shackleton's transport arrangements, based on Manchurian ponies, motor traction, and sled dogs, were innovations which, despite limited success, were later copied by Scott for his ill-fated Terra Nova Expedition.

On his return, Shackleton overcame the Royal Geographical Society's initial scepticism about his achievements and received many public honours, including a knighthood from King Edward VII. He made little financial gain from the expedition and eventually depended on a government grant to cover its liabilities. Within three years his southernmost record had been surpassed, as first Amundsen and then Scott reached the South Pole. In his own moment of triumph, Amundsen nevertheless observed: "Sir Ernest Shackleton's name will always be written in the annals of Antarctic exploration in letters of fire".[1]

https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimrod_Expedition

e87e21  No.2232325

File: 01cc61c0421ab24⋯.jpg (561.04 KB, 2112x1142, 1056:571, fi71ofYFDIF.jpg)

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Enoch in Antarctica.

9553f8  No.2232341


Anatoly Fomenko


We can't date anything.

e87e21  No.2232435

File: 887e7f33d242ce0⋯.jpg (354.21 KB, 1356x1078, 678:539, lugu4g2fp7f3q7.jpg)

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Between Orion and Pleiades.

Taurus > The Bull > the Bull's Eye > Aldebaran > the Hunter. ––– Fomalhaut > Mouth of the Whale.

e87e21  No.2232463



e87e21  No.2232633

File: 3dc3dbff55978f7⋯.jpg (254.71 KB, 2062x442, 1031:221, Aldobrandini 1.jpg)

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From qresearch board #2790 https:// 8ch.net/qresearch/res/2212674.html

e87e21  No.2232634

File: 6ffe25082f25ab1⋯.jpg (570.63 KB, 2058x1032, 343:172, Aldobrandini 6.jpg)

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e87e21  No.2232732

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Phoenicia > Black Madonna > Black Pope > Black Nobility > Templars > Switzerland.





e87e21  No.2233210

File: 06ebba059fbda46⋯.jpg (387.54 KB, 1000x1073, 1000:1073, starchart-Leviticus-ch.1.jpg)

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B'Nai Brit > Britain > British Israel. Lots to dig into.

https:// www.british-israel.us/index.php

e87e21  No.2233213

File: cb06321a15efdbc⋯.jpg (198.18 KB, 647x930, 647:930, Abraham's-Family-Tree002.jpg)

ea6430  No.2249636

File: e562b03ee2edb8f⋯.jpg (171.69 KB, 575x756, 575:756, Everyone_Loves_Coloring_An….jpg)

At it again.

Public LOUD

Check out lanes Walfartz

Display till September says insert

56 [owls] on cover

47 pics inside.

Know numerology ??

5+6 = 11

4+7 = 11

Power number

Power number

Perfect balance

Sun moon woman man

5x7 = 35

6-4 = 2

35-2 = 33

Top of the top 33° Gayson

Topix media

Everyone loves coloring Vol 2

7905eb  No.2251719

File: 123d8ace4fdac70⋯.jpg (271.07 KB, 620x330, 62:33, eye.jpg)

[Note: significant edits for brevity.]

God and Lucifer have been at it awhile, you see it played out on the "Chess Board of Life.”. The moves and counter moves are perhaps best illustrated at the beginning of the "new game" that appears to have started shortly after the Flood of Noah.

The first game played out pretty quick. God makes man in His own image and they have a great relationship together. Lucifer gets jealous and tries to break up the relationship. Because of that, God pronounces a prophetic judgement, stating that Eve's seed will crush his head. Lucifer then tries to mess up the seed in order to subvert this judgement. He nearly succeeds, but God finds ONE family that is still pure enough to preserve the promised Seed. He saves Noah and his family and wipes out the world and all of the Devil's offspring in the Flood. Game over.

New game. The Devil doesn't waste any time. Within a hundred years after the Flood, he has a new champion player on the board. Nimrod. God lets the game play out a bit. Just as it looks like Lucifer may have a winning angle lining up, God makes a masterful move and confounds the languages. Nimrod is down but not out. The Devil still has his power-player in hand. God allows him to move this player into position again.

Then, God introduces his own new key player. Abram. By the time Abram was born, Nimrod was still in the land of Shinar. In fact, that was a big part of the reason why God called Abram out of Ur of the Chaldees (which was just south of Babylon) in the first place. And this is where "the game" starts to get really interesting.

During the twenty years or so that Abram was bouncing back and forth between Haran and Canaan, Nimrod was also doing some traveling of his own. Though Nimrod still reigned from the area of Babylon, he regularly made trips to other parts of his kingdom. Apparently, one of his favorite spots was Egypt - the land from which he would eventually rule the ancient world - even after his death.

We are all familiar with the “All Seeing Eye.” But few understand where this whole idea came from. At some point, either before or after Nimrod's death, it would seem that he lost an eye.

Sauce: https:// www.babylonrisingblog.com/Godvsgod3.html

f7c9c2  No.2252121

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

962d8a  No.2256847

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Caps from Sara Ruth Ashcraft’s twitter: #ByePhoenicia


962d8a  No.2256933

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c0d79f  No.2278795


Holy shit. Is she reading this? Or are we hitting the nail on the head with this research!??

2aec3d  No.2279255

Hello anons. I have been a lurker for a while. I did not vote for POTUS or HRC. I wish I had voted for POTUS though now that I know about Q. Learned about Q back in February.

A quick background about me.

I thought all was lost because I was convinced Hillary was going to win the election. So I got into the film industry and joined freemasonry to take matters into my own hands. My goal was to red pill other lower tier Freemasons and work my way to the top and into the secret invite only Masonic bodies in order to gather intel and share to my DOD contacts.

As fate would have it, my initiation was on election night. I walked out of the lodge room after my entered apprentice degree and saw that 4.10.20 had won the election. I was stunned. Since then I have become a 32nd Degree Scottish Rite, almost to the top of the York Rite, the Knight Masons and some others. Don’t want to dox myself by telling all the orgs I’m in though.

I’ve Redpilled a few masons so far. Some are lurkers here as well.

I’d like to make myself available to answer any questions you all have about freemasonry and help you put pieces together that you might be missing. As well as receive advice on how to continue this work in light of Q mission.



c0d79f  No.2279491


First question, you can be 32deg that fast?

2aec3d  No.2279623


Yeah. It only takes 3 months if you make it to all the Degree nights. Because there are 29 degrees in the Scottish Rite, it might take you 10 years to see them all. The degrees are plays, so it takes a lot of coordination and people to do them. Depending on your state / jurisdiction the required degrees can vary. But they always require the 4th Degree, and then 3 lower degrees. Then you can become a 32nd Degree.


c0d79f  No.2279780


Interesting. Ok, one thing I wonder is now that you're 32nd degree, and even so quickly so, did they suddenly grant you access to special knowledge/wisdom? Or do they trust you with that yet?

If so, what's something they told you that knocked you off your feet?

2aec3d  No.2280098


“Knocking you off your feet” is not in the Scottish Rite degrees. That’s in the Master Mason Degree.

I was told to give Jubalum to give him the secrets of a Master Mason. I refused. Jubalum said to me “Then Die”…

2aec3d  No.2280107


Sorry for the typo.

2aec3d  No.2280131


I have not been trusted with any “privileged” information yet. They have revealed the “secret” name of God which everyone already knows. “YHVH”.

Forgot to add signature on last two posts.


c0d79f  No.2280269


What's this rumour about them finally revealing the secret name of God as Lucifer, then?

2aec3d  No.2280385


If they do that, it’s in the 33rd.

The quote from Albert Pike saying “Lucifer is the god of masonry. You may tell this to the 32, 31, and 30th degrees” is actually fake. The person who wrote that later recanted the quote. They made it up.

Not saying they don’t believe that. I think there is evidence they do believe that in the allegory of the 32nd degree, but I have yet to be told that.

In the 32nd Degree, there is a character named Constance who wishes to serve God. The king tells him to hold a vigil, and not to leave his vigil under any circumstances.

The Constance is bombarded by several individuals that try to get him to leave his post. One of them being “The Prince of Darkness”. He tells Constance that he can make him immortal. If he follows YHVH instead, he will be totally lost.

Later, a battle ensues outside his post. Constance leaves his post to fight for his people. He is killed in this battle. Then he is heralded as a hero and promoted to the 32nd degree posthumously.

At face value, the moral of the story is to serve God and defend the weak even if it costs you everything. But the secret lesson is, follow the Prince of Darkness and you will gain everything.

That’s what I see.


c0d79f  No.2280448


Right, that's similar to the temptation of Jesus and Buddha. Most religions will say the righteous will not be tempted by gaining the whole world but losing your soul.

You get the vibe that Masonry is actually nudging you to take the temptation and this is what the 33rd degree is about?

c0d79f  No.2280635


So what do you think Q is talking about when he called out Masons being on the scene of recent FF attacks?

4af078  No.2280742

2aec3d  No.2280812


Well, q later said “should one bad apple spoil the whole bunch?” Or something to that effect. My personal opinion is that Freemasonry has rogue elements that are part of the DS machine. Most Freemasons are good people and are totally clueless about the things freemasonry is involved with. I’ve been trying to get into the bodies that do these things to expose it all. But, it looks like I won’t have to anymore.


2aec3d  No.2280841


I do get the vibe that Freemasons are given nudges to fall for the temptation yes. There is a program where you are asked to write essays about your personal opinions of each degree. This is probably where they find the candidates they are looking for. We’ll see what they think of my personally analysis.


2aec3d  No.2280892


The problem and difficulty with nailaing down any particular rogue element within freemasonry (maybe their not rogue though, just my opinion), is that freemasonry is completely decentralized. There is a Grand Master in each state. Nobody can tell him what to do. Unless there is a secret centralized body above Grand Masters I don’t know about yet.


c0d79f  No.2280910


I wonder sometimes if Freemasonry is used to scout people for the "next level" secret societies.

I've been deeply thinking lately that the Phoenicians became the Spanish and the Vatican and they were trying to claim the entire new world. Freemasonry was founded to destroy the Catholic Church and take back America, and this is why they have so much symbolism everywhere as a big "fuck you" to the Catholic order.

But this is where I hit a wall. Because Freemasonry seems to be progressive and want Communism (see the French Revolution and how they wanted to take full credit for it, what was pseudo Communism). They claim they want to destroy the Church from within (after failing to literally destroy it) by corrupting bishops, which would mean that Francis might be working for the Masons.

So maybe you can help me out here. What do you think the political aim of Masonry is? And don't give me the bullshit they don't have one, historically they've been behind every major political even in modern history, and this is provable.

f25034  No.2280915

What kind of knowledge do Free Masons have that the general public doesn't know?

f25034  No.2281024


>My goal was to red pill other lower tier Freemasons and work my way to the top and into the secret invite only Masonic bodies in order to gather intel and share to my DOD contacts.

KEK. You are under the impression that the DOD is unaware? DOD is the Cabal.

2aec3d  No.2281070



Good DOD contacts. People in military that had already been Red Pilled for a long time. Remember, Q hadn’t started posting yet. I had no idea that Q was coming, or what POTUS was really about yet. Which is why I decided to infiltrate.


2aec3d  No.2281112


Their political agenda is hidden from me. We are not permitted to discuss politics or religion in lodge. But, it’s pretty obvious they are for global government. In the obligation (oath) we take, we are required to promise and swear to support the government in whatever country we hold citizenship. If HRC won election, we would see a push to support whatever global government she would tell us we needed.


e5ee28  No.2281145


this right here is why open source is better than closed, imo.

once a closed society is compromised, it becomes instantly deadly. don't care if it was once good, or if the people at the top "know better than i do".

if you don't trust me, i have zero reason to trust you, and vice versa.

c0d79f  No.2281194


So is the idea to create useful idiots that will obey whoever's in charge? That way the Cabal can call upon them to do special actions that push them closer to their goal?

c0d79f  No.2281213

File: ada784cfc09e487⋯.jpg (71.61 KB, 644x672, 23:24, illuminati-symbol-double-h….jpg)

What does this double headed eagle mean to Masonry?

The typical definition is "empire" that I can find, but I feel like there's a more esoteric meaning to it.

2aec3d  No.2281225


Responding to your question is going to take a while to explain. Typing it up in a separate app right now. Will post soon.


c0d79f  No.2281276


Thanks, maybe you're a LARP, maybe not, Just be sure to make it interesting!

2aec3d  No.2281387


Remember how Q says “everything has meaning”? That applies here as well. It has several esoteric principles.

They will tell you it’s an eagle. It’s not. It’s a Phoenix.

The Phoenix is a symbol for reincarnation. In mythology is would die a fiery death, and would be reborn from the ashes. I.E. Reincarnation.

Freemasonry, but more especially The Scottish Rite, is steeped in Hermetecism / Kabbalah.

The real juicy bit, is that it is a symbol for the world / United States.

The head looking left is looking to the past. The head looking right, is looking to the future.

One of the degrees is about learning from the mistakes of the past. Another possible link to looking to the past to shape the future.

However, it really speaks to building a country that was free from the church, where they could build what they wanted. Burn it down when the time was right and form the NWO.

If this doesn’t make sense, please let me know. Am phonefagging.


2aec3d  No.2281500

File: 58740b8b3829399⋯.jpeg (1.55 MB, 1242x1266, 207:211, 73787F9A-A9CB-496A-A147-0….jpeg)

File: 3cd80ff51597374⋯.jpeg (1.72 MB, 1242x1441, 1242:1441, 1D4670A6-1FA6-4A4A-A14C-7….jpeg)

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Not a LARP. It will be interesting.

2aec3d  No.2281559


Phonefagging. Forgot to write signature again.

Trust Q, Trust POTUS. Not a LARP.

If I ever say anything that is not in line with Q & POTUS, don’t listen to me. Also, don’t let my oresence distract you from Q drops or dig instructions by Q.


c0d79f  No.2281785


Well if you're the real deal that means we've been pretty much dead on with the research we've been doing here and the previous NWO thread. The Phoenix is their zeitgeist, their guiding principle.. that sacrificing something in fire will make it rise again greater than before, from babies for power, to nations for empire. It seems the MO that these mysterious people build up something big, and and then at the right time self destruct, and with that destruction they go super-nova and seed the philosophy elsewhere and grow anew. Do this enough time, and you rule the world.

Learn from the past, act for the future, and suddenly even though you might not live to see the fruits of your labour, you know your descendants are directly benefiting off your actions and your legacy is something to be proud of.

c0d79f  No.2281885


(sorry for ugly link)

So this double head is everywhere. Many kingdoms have used it. It originates in Sumeria, was then adopted by the Holy Roman Empire and Russia.

Hitler then chopped a head off and it became a single eagle/phoenix looking into the past. What the fuck is up with that?

Is there actually a Phoenician connection to the Freemasons as we suspect?

Do the Freemasons own the moon, as they claim they put their flag there?

Do the Venetians own mainland America (north and south), as John Cabot put a Venetian flag on it in 1497?

Is it true that our chronology is wrong and that it's not really 2018? Do masons talk about this wild idea?

c0d79f  No.2281916


If you just took those pics, write "Qanon" in front of your 32deg badge and take a pic of that.

2aec3d  No.2281944


Basically yes. But the real work gets done with the adepts who DO see what they’re selling.


2aec3d  No.2282030

File: dc1a06045c1f5cb⋯.jpeg (Spoiler Image, 1.78 MB, 1242x1557, 138:173, 1663DA0F-368C-49C6-897F-B….jpeg)


As requested


c0d79f  No.2282367


Thank you! Ok I'm going to dive in and just believe you then haha.

Is freemasonry the only society you're involved with?

What other societies should we pay attention to?

(I asked a few other random questions here too that I'd love your thoughts on)


0d68c4  No.2282420


Who is the god of the masons?

6531c3  No.2282427


At level 32 you had a choice to make between 2 doors?

If yes, what door did you pick?

153fab  No.2282462

Praying for my American patriot brothers.

Ready to stand and serve with you.

Canadian Anon

d33f2e  No.2282598


MasonAnon, should people join the Masons?

How was your experience and would you do it again?

I've always had my eye on becoming a member but the thought of corrupting myself is what keeps me.

Do you have any recommendations should one choose to become a Brother?


8134e7  No.2282606

mason anon i have heard that simply pre knowing some of the secrets of freemasonry is how you can rise up the ranks quick is this true or how you did it

d33f2e  No.2282607

8134e7  No.2282812

i guess we scared masonanon away if you are still there then is all the stuff with east referencing the archangel and the order of the eastern star ,are they corrupt or are they the same boat as freemasonry partially corrupt

2aec3d  No.2282944

I am happy to answer all questions. Will do my best to get to them soon.

I have to go to work right now. Will be back around midnight ET.


c28f61  No.2283000

File: 0195fde52d32ec7⋯.jpg (232.63 KB, 639x493, 639:493, 8b89b4224970be55e40d16e8fb….jpg)


God bless and stay safe, we need your input!

30193c  No.2283064



funny cause i also started a fast this morning with out knowing why!

PTL & God Bless Q and America

30193c  No.2283092

File: 73f2cb805d23b53⋯.jpg (400.02 KB, 1200x1200, 1:1, hrc-cunt.jpg)


no thanks…

1532d4  No.2283443


I still have a little bit of time to answer questions at the moment. Some of the other questions are a bit involved, so it will take time to answer the longer questions.

As to your question,

Freemasonry teaches that God is “The Grand Architecht of the Universe”, or “GAOTU”, or “G”.

In answering other questions, I believe I can demonstratively show that it definitely isn’t YHVH. I will later explain the lodge room, it’s design, and how it masks who freemasonsry really believes is God.



1532d4  No.2283447


Typo. Freemasonry*


c0d79f  No.2283492


Does G = Goddess?

Is Lucifer Venus?

1532d4  No.2283711

File: 8ad3bcc45c81c8d⋯.jpeg (Spoiler Image, 447.25 KB, 1242x414, 3:1, 0310B749-8B39-4C04-87BF-3….jpeg)


After I tell more about my story, you should decide for yourself. If you want to help Red Pill, it might be something you should look into. There are absolutely benefits of membership that have nothing to do with conspiracies. But you should hear everything I have to say first.

I joined for a very specific reason. I don’t know what will happen to the organization after Q & POTUS drop the hammer. We may be completely outlawed depending on how deep it really goes.

Here’s a nugget for now.


169a6c  No.2283864

MasonAnon, I respect your noble intentions and efforts. It's a good thing to redpill those at the lower levels in your lodges, and I'm sure you can give out some cursory information that anons here will find interesting.

But the stuff that would be of extreme relevance, interest, smoking gun, etc. is not available to a 32nd degree Mason, and depending on certain factors, not available to a 33rd degree Mason. Maybe you've heard rumblings, but there are two branches of the 33rd degree. The Masons have systems of identifying your loyalties and beliefs and you will be sorted into one of the two branches if you become a 33rd degree Mason.

If you are not a "true believer," it will be very hard hard if not impossible for you to be sorted into the most esoteric branch.

Those who have been sorted into that branch understand that there are more than 33 degrees.

Think about why the Masons chose to use "degrees" to denote ranks within their organization.

They use a compass in their primary symbolism, yes?

How many degrees does a compass measure?

How many degrees are there REALLY?

The big stuff happens far above the head of a 32nd degree Mason, and even far above the head of a 33rd degree Mason who has noble intentions, such as yourself.

The truth about these upper degrees is out there. Materials have been leaked.

But the big secrets anons are likely looking for are not going to be here.

I don't mean to say the information isn't good or interesting to read.

I mean this as a road sign to more digging for those who are now engaging with this topic.

e47c06  No.2284001

File: dafff06eda29807⋯.jpg (117.61 KB, 595x793, 595:793, shaqflat.jpg)


How far back does the Mason history go? Does this relate to Egyptians / pre-civilization?

I believe that masonry is part of the branch of a greater beast. many layers.


Q posted about why masons show up at shooting.

Shaq was promoting flat earth. Seems like some dis information shilly work…

169a6c  No.2284021


My opinion is that the organization should be outlawed. I am completely empathetic to the good hearted people there who take pleasure and comfort in a men's group.

But the founder and founding purpose to me is despicable enough to warrant its elimination.

Other groups can form for the benefits, without all the baggage.

0dc429  No.2284085

File: 85880eb6a0ea6ee⋯.png (495.62 KB, 472x625, 472:625, c50a0fec8969785ef72a55ae7e….png)


Any books you'd recommend on the topic? All I hear are ghost stories about these books in the corner of a dusty unknown library.

I've been mostly enjoying the old hits, Book of Enoch, Emerald Tablets of Thoth, The Secret of Secrets, Necronomicon, Prose Edda, etc. etc. etc.

The one thing these books all have in common; they all claim to hold mystery knowledge. Any more book suggestions like these would be great.

1532d4  No.2284264


You’re correct.

However, the “two doors” Degree from what I’ve heard, is only in the 33rd Degree within the southern jurisdiction. In my jurisdiction, we have “new” degrees. Meaning they have been “revitalized”. Same principles, but reperesented differently. That’s one of the reasons I decided to come here. A lot of the stuff on the internet is outdated.

One more thing to add. As a 32nd degree Scottish Rite Mason, you can buy a 33rd degree for $1,000,000.


066b29  No.2284282

169a6c  No.2284298


Have you read Manly P Hall's own writings on Freemasonry?

I recommend searching for 360 degree mason whistle-blowers if you want to know specifics on the organization.

Old hits are good, but I for the most part don't tend to point people towards easier means of eating from the tree of occulted knowledge. It'll find you.

I do support exposing the people who used that knowledge against us and brainwash people into siding with the serpent and his pursuits over the one who warned us from the serpent.

1532d4  No.2284443


Freemasonry goes all the way back to Nimrod. He was the first Freemason. Freemasons will tell you that this is not true. It all has to do with Adam’s garments that YHVH made for him in the garden. Nimrod used them too. That’s where the Masonic “apron” comes from.


1532d4  No.2284501

File: 51a58fc2a24ff72⋯.jpeg (Spoiler Image, 1.65 MB, 1242x1555, 1242:1555, F3B3A1CF-242F-4353-BDFB-6….jpeg)


I posted it already, but I’ll post again.


066b29  No.2284525



Mind = Blown

Seems pretty important/urgent when Q asks us to pray.

1532d4  No.2285091


I haven’t read ALL of his writings. Although most of his writings were done before he ever became a Freemason, they served him well once he finally joined.


1532d4  No.2285118

Gotta go for now. Work getting busy. Will be back around midnight ET.


0dc429  No.2285352

File: d6ce45be42573cf⋯.jpg (45.34 KB, 563x542, 563:542, d6ce45be42573cf5a39a47082a….jpg)


>they served him well once he finally joined

Do you mean to say that Manly P. Hall's works were appreciated by Masons because it's inaccurate and well done?

I say this because; Why would the Masons appreciate his work if it was an accurate source that unveiled their mystery knowledge? I don't mean to sound combative if it comes off that way, I'm just an asshole.

3b08a9  No.2285681

I'm wondering if anyone thinks freemasonry was hijacked at some point and turned into whatever it is currently.

169a6c  No.2285727


It was founded with sinister intentions by sinister people. The narrative that it was infiltrated is incorrect.

c0d79f  No.2285755


Not at all. It's always been shady as fuck.

For a fun read, read about Freemasonry in France. Wow!


ce8206  No.2286033


Saw on main that a mason anon was posting here so now you have a chance to help an anon who is a child of a mason, sibling to 2..I could go on with moat family members. My father has passed. I struggle not knowing what being a Mason means. As a child, I thought it was a good thing but hell, now I don't know. I only know enough to have some anxiety about this society. Please explain Master Mason 3rd degree.. was "allowed" to witness a rite performed over his body immediately after death(must say a very beautiful thing).

Can you help an anon out?

169a6c  No.2286082


If your father was a good man, most 3rd degree Masons only participate in Freemasonry for the bonding and community. Knowledgeable corruption is at the higher levels.

While I would strongly discourage you from joining a lodge yourself, it is most likely your father never knew anything beyond a somewhat exclusive social club.

d41679  No.2287512

Fakebook shares collapse In it's single worst fall 20+%


36227d  No.2288509

File: 860ae78e4c45bcf⋯.jpg (676.19 KB, 680x614, 340:307, Screenshot (2616)_LI.jpg)

Twitter "Home" button. Interesting choice shape?

36227d  No.2288672

File: b19ef7ab67a125e⋯.png (509.01 KB, 501x751, 501:751, Screenshot (2619).png)

Boaz and Jachin. Order vs. Chaos. They sacrificed NYC WTC 1+2 on 9/11/01 so they had to replace their altar to Lucifer, also check freemason shapes in Freedom Tower rebuild. They laugh at us while they feed on us.

36227d  No.2289014

File: f1e796cb887dee8⋯.png (650.6 KB, 675x839, 675:839, Screenshot (2621).png)


They murder the sheep. Then laugh. Then rebuild (inside joke) /_\

with the insurance money.

79a889  No.2289407


Ezekiel 17.

023cc0  No.2290373


can you please comment on flat earth

and G ravity

f862d0  No.2290853

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


Sylvie Ivanowa is one of my all time favorites on you tube, love the way she makes you rethink what you think you know. Her you tube channel is called newearth channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/everhungriescatgang.

Sylvie has done an enormous number of videos based partly on Anatoly Fomenko's work on the way history has been altered, in his book The New Chronology:


She has been redoing a lot of her videos due to copyrights.

I like her old versions better, luckily someone has saved at least some of them here:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL413kttcyah5B_NDzyJ5FNpecUc3e__DK >>2281213

1532d4  No.2291602


Closing up shop right now. Will give full attention soon.

Freemasons meet on the level…FE is disinfo


c70590  No.2291693


Not Masonanon, and most definitely don't want to steal his thunder, but your formatting of G ravity shows you are probably on to something.

Certain domains taught as sciences function as a tautology.

How did the Egyptians built the pyramids? How did a single man build the coral castle?

I suspect you already know.

b799d5  No.2292236

Lodge rooms are set up to mimic King Solomon’s temple. This is where they trick you. It’s similar, but not the same.

The lodge room is oriented East to West in a rectangular shape. Each side is named after a cardinal direction. N,S,E,W.

The North is considered “dark”. Typically people do not sit there.

The South is the station of the Junior Warden.

The West is the station of the Senior Warden.

The East is the station of the Master. In King Solomon’s Temple, this would be where the Holy of Holies was. For those that don’t know, the Holy of Holies was where the Ark of the Covenant was, and the presence of YHVH manifested as a cloud.

Above the station of the master, in every single lodge room, is the letter “G”. As i states before, this represents the Grand Architect of the Universe. G is a “universal” name for God in this setting.

Now let’s go back to King Solomon’s temple for reference. In the Scriptures, you will find the exact OPPOSITE orientation. The lodge room and King Solomon’s temple are oriented opposite each other. The Holy of Holies was in the West. The Sacrificial Altar was in the East. Make sense?

What is the temple? Did YHVH simple invent some sort of earthly structure for worship? No. The Real Temple is an exact copy of the throne room in Heaven where YHVH dwells.

Where did Satan dwell in heaven, before he was cast out from Heaven? He was the “guardian cherub” that covered the throne of YHVH.

Think back to the G symbol that sits above the Master’s chair in the East, The symbol that represents God.

If we are supposed to assume that the lodge room is the temple, and that the temple is a replica of Heaven, and Satan covered the throne of YHVH, what does the G symbol represent?

Who is the God of Freemasonry? The discerning eye can tell right away that it is not YHVH.

G = Satan. No need for a 33rd Degree to figure it out.


b799d5  No.2292303


I’m sure your father was a good man. You’ve already seen a lot of the 3rd Degree if you’ve seen a Masonic funeral service. It is a beautiful ceremony. I have done many Masonic funeral rites myself.

If your father believed that Jesus paid his debt, you have no need to worry.

I got a call and I have a very early morning tomorrow. I must go to sleep. Will be back tomorrow morning. Will go into further detail about 3rd Degree tomorrow afternoon.

It looks like I’ve already made some shills go a little crazy with the Gore posts. Hopefully that lends a bit more credibility to what I’ve been saying. Maybe, maybe not.

Trust Q, Trust POTUS.

R is a LARP. 😉


b799d5  No.2292329


Don’t sorry about stealing my thunder. Steal it. I don’t want any thunder. Just want you all to know there are good men inside Freemasonry that follow Q & believe in POTUS. We will expose what we can.


938d2d  No.2292406

b799d5  No.2292644


Correction. I will be back in the afternoon.


2e3b90  No.2293196


If you wish to seek God then leave the lodge. Too much to read here but as you make your way up to the high levels they take an oath to Lucifer. Followers in Christ should have nothing to do with devils.

Also THE TWO BABYLONS or PAPAL WORSHIP PROVED TO BE WORSHIP OF NIMROD AND HIS WIFE is an excellent detailed book tracing all the pagan imagery from Nimrod through pagan religions and eventually adopted into the ROMAN (Empire) Catholic church.

Nimrod was a mighty hunter…but more precisely can be transited as he was the hunter of men's souls.

Nimrod was in FULL REBELLION against God, in the same way the cabal is today. So is freemasonry leadership who takes an oath to Lucifer, is also in FULL REBELLION like Nimrod. Shema cut Nimrod to pieces and warned the people this is what would happen to them if they followed in Nimrod's rebellion. His mother popped back up telling people Nimrod is still alive and they can talk to him through her (like today's the Catholic Marianist). Also she instituted the confession which she would then use that information to blackmail people. Her priesthood would administer her made up religion and so on…read the book and you'll see how what Jesus taught has been infused and taken over by pagan ideas. In Jeremiah 31 - God promised the new covenant would bring a relationship with God so…they will all know me!

anyway this type of manipulation and control is still on full display today - in politics, business and religion. God's desire for us is liberty and that liberty is gain by follow Him, not devils and not other men.

–Thank you–

023cc0  No.2293459


If it's not disinfo, then are you claiming that TPTB were trying to honestly inform us when they taught the globe model?

8e54af  No.2293559


Reasonable adults understand that. I had elderly relatives that were high level mason and very ultra-decemt men (and women Eastern Star).

The children here can't make a distinction because the have no familiarity and weak understand of anyone but themselves.

Very introspective ( maybe video games DO affect their perspective of others)

Stay strong

50006e  No.2295099


Also on full display today in the police, judicary, education,millitary,intelligence agencys civil service (here in UK) medical most professions ect.

50006e  No.2295104


chek those trips and dubs

0dc429  No.2295150

File: 6c62f44b32c28b0⋯.jpg (271.81 KB, 788x622, 394:311, 6c62f44b32c28b04b72bd61bf1….jpg)


>The children here can't make a distinction because the have no familiarity and weak understand of anyone but themselves.

>Very introspective ( maybe video games DO affect their perspective of others)

Oh boy, you're really reaching with that last part. Do you remember what board you're on? This is 8chan friend.

Curtail that "them vs. us" talk. I've never seen that sentiment in these threads. If that were truly how some felt, we'd all still be yelling about "the Jews!" on here.

You cannot ignore the fact that Freemasonry is built on deception and corruption at the very core of it's existence. Any decent human being within the lodges is simply there to help cover up the misdeeds of the powerful at the top.

Let's not forget the fact that humans are multi–faceted. Everyone claiming their mason uncle/brother/mother are/were great people, do not know every mask that individual wears. Maybe they were good, maybe they weren't. But Freemasonry will always be seen as a red flag among the common man.

Not to mention, Women of the Eastern Star is especially controversial. The fact that you think anything good comes of that branch is truly mind boggling to me.

Honestly I think all this Mason talk is getting off topic. Maybe there should be a separate thread for that. We're tracing an ancient Babylonian mystery cult in here.

b4947e  No.2295790

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


In the video I posted first (22 min), Sylvie shows that the 2 headed eagle symbol was used as a national emblem by every country in Europe and others around the world.

The basic premise of her work is that there was a worldwide culture not very long ago, and based on the work of Anatoly Fomenko who's books scientifically show, by comparison of recordings of historical celestial events, eclipses especially, and the actual provable dates when eclipses have to have occurred, that there is about a 1000 year discrepancy in history, that the Middle Ages, or Dark Age where made up and didn't happen, at least not when they are purported to have.

She believes the Earth has been conquered by a group she calls The Parasites who have methodically wiped out all peoples and cultures around the world with a memory of how we lived in peace and prosperity worldwide very recently.

In this video posted here she shows the physical evidence of art and artifacts that demonstrate that Christianity and Islam were actually the same religion and co existed relatively peacefully in Europe until the conquest by the Parasites.

(old version) the survivors, 8 - the Stolen History of the Religions


c0d79f  No.2296009


Thank you for bringing up her work.

When I first encountered her videos, I passed them off because of their low quality. Once I just let one play, and after 2 minutes I was HOOKED. She is NOT flashy, but she's absolutely thick with facts and figures and images and ideas.

I think she might be on to something

ce8206  No.2297137


Thank you for answering. All questions you pose to me are affirmative. Femanon here so never privy to any info about this subject & I wanted answers from him.. But the ring on his finger was always there & I, with much curiosity, always knew it was something special but why so secretive if good. Working some threads here can make one's brain hurt on difficult subjects. We tend to dig where we've had life experiences..

I see the wink & I mumble "how do you know I was there?"

Affirmative on Trust Q Trust POTUS

Thanks again Masonanon

0dc429  No.2297440

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

c31106  No.2298509


It is also interesting that all kingdoms with the eagle in the coat of arms were destroyed. Only the ones with the lion survived. In Germany, and not only there, there has been a group of people for a very long time who have doubts about official historiography. Here is a link to some interesting articles.


b4947e  No.2299302



Kingdoms, yes, but there are still countries with the double headed eagle on the coat of arms, they were mentioned in the first video I posted. It's Russia, Serbia and one or two others.

I read somewhere recently another theory on the origin of the 2 headed eagle, that it represents the brothers Enki and Enlil from Sumerian history and the 1 head eagle like the US' represents their father Annu. The clay tablets of Mesopotamia are perhaps the only history books from that long ago that have been unaltered for approx 6,000 years, however I believe that the Sumerian "gods" were deceivers and the original "parasites" that only wanted to use Man as their slaves and instead of creating man as they say, they changed the DNA of the human survivors of a much earlier cycle of civilization to make us stupider with less psychic abilities and spiritual connection to Source.

I also think it's highly likely they are still around controlling things from behind the scenes and they are the evil force we are still fighting. They are not gods, they are completely "service to self" Satanists from that ancient bloodline and their hybrid offspring, and even possibly still alive from back then.

That's why we've been spending trillions on the secret space program and why Trump is making that public and on the books with the Space force. We're taking our planet back!



f862d0  No.2301684


BTW, had to remove the s from the https to go there. Looks like i got some reading to do. thanks

c0d79f  No.2301888


There is no true historical date before the 14th century - all need a critical scrutiny.

Far less than two thousand years have elapsed since the Roman Empire.

The Christian Church as an institution existes only since the Middle Ages.

The Bible, as we know it, was written in the 15th century.

The first complete printed edition of the Talmud was produced at the time of Zwingli's Reformation (Venice 1519-23)

Christianism, Jewish faith and Islam emerged more or less at the same time.

Most of the Greek and Roman authors are literary creations of the Renaissance.

The Egyptian and the Mesopotamic Empires lasted at best some hundred years.

Several cosmic catastrophes - at least one in the last thousand years - have affected our calendar.

The chronology of other civilisations, as the Chinese and Indian, has been adapted to the European.

An important part of the monuments in our museums are fakes.

Original buildings, artistic works and paintings often tell us something different from their modern interpretation.

As a rule, manuscripts are the most easily faked artefacts, but also stone engravings can be faked or wrongly interpreted.

"Classical" languages as Latin, Ancient Greek and Classical Arabic are late creations.

a845f8  No.2302119


the chronology of the origin of Islam as mentioned here, strengthens my position on why Christ had to have the names of the Elect on his mind at his sacrificial death. All religions on the planet today started to be corrupted at Christs resurrection and ascension. Once HE left the earth, and after HIS disciples were eliminated, either by natural causes, or by the hand of an adversary, there were NO humans who had the absolute truth or who understood the Plan of salvation fully and clearly. All religions today are works based heresies, or plain deceptions introduced by the evil one, who believes he can corrupt the dogmas and doctrines to the point that nobody makes it to heaven or eternal life. Satan believes he is of equal or higher power than God. his plan all along was to corrupt the religions of the earth through false teachings, using the vanity and pride of "scholarly" men who devised their own forms of heretical teachings, claiming to be the prophets of God. Now i hope you can see why if God had not come in the form of a Divine'Human to sacrifice for his sheep, that left to our own devices none of the human race would make it to eternity and perfection in the next life/body. Therefore Islam is Not the true religion, nor is any other earthly religion in the year 2018. Only the sheep, the elect, the called of God, those whom Christ died for, will be saved, and by the holy spirit in their lives, are awakened to the reality of their position either in the family of God or in the family of Satan…Of course the offer of salvation extends to the goats, the children of satan, but they either are too proud or too ignorant to see the truth of God and His superiority over satan, and will never actually bow their knee to Christ. maybe they were born to fulfill a purpose, maybe satan worshippers have been put here to show the sheep how serious this war really is. The war between good and evil. Without negative, positive has no meaning. Without Evil…Good has less value.

you dont sell diamonds on a white background, you showcase them on a black background, the light shines more brightly…

b799d5  No.2302616


If there is a more appropriate board, I’ll move.


f862d0  No.2302817


I could accept most of that, but not that the Egyptian empire lasted only 100 years. the megalithic buildings around the planet are perhaps the greatest mystery of them all and probably were part of a civilization that lasted for mileniums. The Egyptians that carved their hieroglyphics all over, now that's a different matter.

8e54af  No.2302890


Seek treatment for HUTA disease (head-up-the-ass). I don't recall anyone that made such ludicrous claims (ALL unsubstantiated).

Most are self-contradictions:

There is no true historical date before the 14th century - all need a critical scrutiny.

So if there are no true historical date (or data?) how could they be scrutinized?

The Bible, as we know it, was written in the 15th century.

How many Bibles exist "as we know it"?

Do you think there is only one version? (HInt: Jesus was not known to speak Greek, Latin or English. Reconcile )

Not going to waste anymore time on this creature from Project Mayhem but his method clearly fits that project profile.

Believe him! He alone holds the Ultimate Truth!

Even a LARP is expected to be plausible.


Since Greece and Rome were both within the Ren

f862d0  No.2303946

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.



Don't worry, I'm not planning to post all of her videos here, just some that seem relevant, and that I've had time to watch myself.

(13:14 min.)

the survivors, 7 - 1000 fabricated years, Isaac Newton and other supporters of the true history


44218b  No.2306170


cya Masonshill

c0d79f  No.2306256


I'm the OP and I certainly don't mind you chatting here. As long as you can help us solve this NWO riddle you are most welcome to share what insight you might have.

c0d79f  No.2306304


Hey bruh, I was copypasta from the website. But it's interesting. Most of the reasoning is based on the notion that we literally have no manuscripts older than the middle ages. Our past beyond that is literally fiction. Some is probably true, but it's impossible to know. Some posit that the Roman Empire wasnt that long ago, and in fact the Holy Roman Empire didn't have a gap at all. There's some fascinating reasoning to explain these ideas and it's not as far fetched once you actually hunt for evidence of the "past" they're trying to sell us.

8e54af  No.2306385


That is the risk of copypasta.

Incoherent, irrational shit reflects badly on you.

Why don't you examine it privately before you embarrass yourself?

Just a suggestion

c0d79f  No.2306732


Because I found it to be pretty interesting! The purpose of this thread is decode the matrix of the NWO. If history isn't as old as we're told that's a huge clue.

I can't fathom the Egyptian nation lasting only 100 years, but I also can't fathom a nation holding it together for thousands of years either.

You can't deny history is bias propaganda written by the victorious. Historians thread it all together and we then accept this bullshit tapestry.

Here! Do my challenge. Think of a big, important event that happened over 2000 years ago. Now find out where the account of that event first came from. Now find the oldest surviving manuscript of that account. Very often none survive and you are lucky if copies of copies survived. Many of these events come from volumes only supposed to exist because another historian quoted a single line from it a hundred years later. Ok, let's say you got lucky and found this account in a manuscript from 1050ce. Cool. When was it officially found and archived? 1500? sometimes 1800?! Wtf!

Nevermind these ancient historians weren't witness to the events. Heck, some of the most important Roman historians were immigrants! And they wrote decades or longer after the event.

We can barely thread the JFK story together with are abundance of media and technology. I can barely remember my own childhood.

Let's face facts!


Why and who is fucking around with the past? Enter (((They))) and their NWO

c0d79f  No.2306873


You're on the right track. But all religions are bullshit. Were humans fucked before God knocked up Mary? Of course not. Stop taking it literally. Our religions are echoes of ancient wisdom turned to allegory mistaken for history. The truth is real, the stories don't actually matter. The point is you have the divine ability to discern truth for yourself and you can trust yourself as long as you vow to never be deceived. This will send you into a spiral and house of mirrors.

Anyway, the significance of God sacrificing his Son is fascinating. If you legit think that's awesome, then you actually think child sacrifice has a profound magic and is endorsed by God. Now, luckily he did the ultimate final sacrifice so we no longer need to, but in order for the myth to have any meaning you must first suppose human sacrifice is a relevant logical action!

8e54af  No.2306883


Except all these "interesting secrets" exist solely on their website.

Absolutely no documentation is identified/

Why not?

Perhaps because it all came from her imagination and re-interpretation of bits of history.

No substantiation other than their videos say no evidence.

Suspiciously, according them "history" all began in Medieval times.

But they conveniently can't explain what preceded that time.

Not even close to believeable and ranks prett low on the interesting scale.

Unless you enjoy fantasizing of infinite possibles for your pleasure.

Feel free to waste your time, but don't presume we are as gullible & desperate as you

But, but, but believe them because the alone know the real Truth.

8e54af  No.2306957

File: 277b570a710b77c⋯.png (1.24 MB, 615x922, 615:922, Blues clues.png)


The purpose of this thread is decode the matrix of the NWO.

That may be your purpose, but I don't agree with your premise.

"decode" the "matrix" - That is a SCIENCE-FICTION movie, you want to pretend is a documentary.

A clue - WTF is this Blue's Clues?

c0d79f  No.2306979


This chick is mostly crazy. She believes in Dragons and gnomes. But she's parroting some legit notions about the middle ages.

Read my other reply.

But just because I don't know what really happened before the middle ages doesn't mean I can trust what these monks were spitting out.

Personally I think most accounts are generally real but may have happened in a different order, and gaps were filled in with made up figures.

Research the first Pope's leading up to the council of Nicaea. Totally made up.

c0d79f  No.2307008


Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: 87df69 No.351447 📁

Feb 12 2018 11:50:26 (EST)

Anonymous ID: a4bb61 No.351343 📁

Feb 12 2018 11:44:06 (EST)

controlling the crops, controls the people (sheep)

(might be reaching, but throwing it out there)


Coincidence the Matrix (movie) grew people as a crop, used for energy, and controlled their mind?

Sound familiar?

Wonder where they derived that idea from.

Now comes the 'conspiracy' label.

Deeper we go, the more unrealistic it all becomes.

The end won't be for everyone.

That choice, to know, will be yours.


c0d79f  No.2307073


c0d79f  No.2307118

New Chronology theory complies with the most rigid scientific standards:

– It gives a coherent explanation of what we already know;

– It is consistent: independent lines of inquiry all lead to the same conclusion;

– The predictions it makes are confirmed empirically;

New Chronology goes by the following basic axioms:

– Chronology is the basis of history;

– Human evolution has always been linear, gradual and irreversible;

– The “cyclic” nature of human civilization is a myth, likewise all the gaps, duplicates, “dark ages” and “renaissances” that we know from consensual history are fantasy and hoax;

– The accumulation of geographical knowledge as reflected in cartography is a gradual and irreversible process;

– The closer in time is a given manuscript to the events described the less distortions it contains;

– There is no “useless” information in authentic ancient sources.

8e54af  No.2308291


You may be unaware of several (2) Councils of Nicea, , with several others in between. It is worth noting who the councils consisted of and what issues they considered.

First Council of Nicaea


Also see: First seven ecumenical councils 325-787AD


"Constantine had invited all 1,800 bishops of the Christian church within the Roman Empire (about 1,000 in the east and 800 in the west),"

That information is available and is not as sinister as some have described.

In particular: The Pope, is the bishop of Rome. While Peter was just one of the Apostles, he was also the Apostle who held the primacy which was the Christ-given leadership among them (Mt 16:18). As the successor of Peter, Catholics believe that the Bishop (Pope) of Rome holds same role among his brother bishops. He is like the chairman of a board of directors. Another analogy is that he is like the captain of a basketball team. While he is just a player like all the others, he is also the player with the additional responsibility of holding the team together (i.e., Church unity) and maintaining its game plays (i.e., Church orthodoxy). https://catholicbridge.com/orthodox/pope_bishop_of_rome_primacy.php

Many refer to is as "the Catholic Church but as I recall that was pretty much the only Christians, not withstanding some splinter groups that went their own way (i.e Arainism, Hellenic-Egyptian Coptic, Yazidis, Ethiopian in 4th Century) et al,

Mainstream Christianity was synonymous with Catholic, with exception of East/West at the end of Roman Empire

Relatively stable until Reformation, Martin Luther et al. Various Protestants rejected Pope as authorive and restructured to more local control, ultimately to the Congressional forms self-organized with all laymen, no priest, bishops

I personally was raised as Roman Catholic but "feel away" for some of the same motivation.

Longer story but continued the basic faith but decided I didn't need all the rituals and priestly intersession between God and I.

Decided I didn't need their "middle-management" and could go around them and talk to the"boss" directly.

I did a pretty sketchy job of laying out the early history (to address specific common misconceptions.

References in Wiki are fairly thorough, but more "Catholic-oriented" ( re:history of Papacy) is helpful too

Not peddling any denomination but consider myself as Christian (one, among many flavors, of vanilla)

Details and practice vary, but core is the 99% same.

0dc429  No.2309114

File: be55fb3d9ee2e1c⋯.gif (606.57 KB, 800x792, 100:99, be55fb3d9ee2e1ce726eb38b70….gif)


You need to lurk more. Every time you post, you spew hatred and divisive comments. You don't re-read crumbs, you don't even seem to know the common Q crumbs that everyone here knows. The matrix analogy is one of Q's most famous crumbs. LURK MOAR SHILL

c0d79f  No.2309469


The reason why I said to research the first popes up to the council is because they're almost certainly not real. One guy wrote a list, and then another guy came along and slapped some dates to the same list but mixed up the order too. Other than that we have no other record of them. Plus those list didn't show up until the middle ages.

You say there were 1800 bishops by 325ce? Which would mean how many priests? Well, as of 2009 there are only 5000 bishops, and over 400,000 priests. That's 80x! Let's be conservative and say 20x back then. So 1800 x 20 = 36000 priests. Nevermind the nuns and monks. How many people per church? 100? 3,600,000 Christians in 325ce? I suppose it's possible but I honestly find that to be far fetched considering things were very slow to transmit back then, everything would be word of mouth and word of mouth would be hard since it was allegedly illegal to be a Christian. No, feeding to the lions didn't bolster the numbers because almost certainly this was a middle age invention as martyr stories only started to appear then.

We have no surviving documents from Nicaea, and the canon wasn't officially finalized until the 1500s which was the council of Trent. Some even so far as to say Nicaea didn't even happen but had to be manufactured to fit the timeline. Personally I think there were definitely counsels beforehand but we don't know any of the real details of it.

Anyway. You really think Jesus anointed the first Pope by saying you're the rock upon which I build my church? First of all, you have to wonder if that verse is made up by the very ones declaring authority. Second, it contradicts what Jesus says when he says "I am the way, the truth, and the light: no one gets to the father except by me". There's no astrieks there. It's what made Christianity so dangerous. It was an anarchistic religion that said you don't need priests (pharasees) or temples (turn over the tables!) you're lovely temple will be torn apart in a mere 3 days! You don't need a middle man, you can talk directly to the divine because you come from the divine yourself.

Of course, can't have that. Better organize it all into a Roman hierarchy and make the Pope the new ceaser/God.

b4947e  No.2311555


You obviously haven't watched any of her videos.

you need to stop taking the sleeping pills and eat a big red pill

b4947e  No.2311818

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.



Greg Carlwood, always entertaining.

I listened to this but I'm not really interested in catholic history, posted this for you two.

c177e7  No.2314972


thanks, haven't heard this list of axioms before

41f231  No.2315670


Peter was never a Pope. Petra = small stone

Peter is not the rock.

Rock = truth of Jesus’ identity

984ffe  No.2326928


New handler = mccarthy

c0d79f  No.2340376


The conversation seems to be veering into a battle of ideologies but I do want to bring up something interesting about how Christianity as a concept (forget any church structure or creeds) is a direct response to the evil Nimrod religion that was so infectious (and, we are discovering, is still active today)

Personally I believe that the absolutely earliest date we can ascribe to the story of Abraham and Issac is 400bce after they return from Babylonian exile (the Phoenicians got their buddy's in Babylon to capture and exile the pesky Israelites in Canaan, after a period of time the Persians, who also had some monotheistic ideas via Zoroaster, saved them and let them go back home and crushed Phoenicia in the process). This date makes more sense than the supposed date of Moses in 1300bce, as Moses almost certainly didn't write it. It makes sense because I don't think the story is real, it was a direct answer to the "pagans" who still wanted to do child sacrifice. God basically did something weird here. He legitimacized the practice of child sacrifice but basically said he doesn't need that anymore. Wtf? Weird right. So now they only did animal sacrifice.

Jesus Christ continues in that ideology, but to the next level and says that no more child sacrifice will ever be required because God sacrificed his only begotten son for everyone so it's all good now!

Personally I think the concept of sacrifice is absurd and twisted which is why I can't buy into these religions as literal truth. But I can certainly see and understand their grandeur and brilliance as a way of stopping an evil practice endemic of the age. Christianity and Judaism literally ended human sacrifice as a tenant of their religion, but had to do it by agreeing that child sacrifice has legitimate effects although those effects are no longer going to be supported by God.

I get it. I'm happy the philosophy evolved that way. But I can't help but feel that this solution was a political compromise and is still fucked up at a fundamental, conceptual level.

ca08cd  No.2343153

File: 558f340a9909106⋯.png (270.09 KB, 521x293, 521:293, 1531973477594.png)


>"decode" the "matrix"

>being too young to understand the purpose of conceptual metaphor

Yea bruh, we gotta get Neo to the architect so he can figure out how to stop agent Smith!!!! Why you no help? You are one of him aren't you!

67fa21  No.2354042

Avenatti = Kike.

Additionally MOS would explain the pic related to the rocket,

his apparent connection to a mafioso and the saudis.

39cc79  No.2354185


He's yapping away on TW again

67fa21  No.2354818


What's wrong with you, kikeshill? Have problems with truths?

0dc429  No.2354955

File: 1d6d32406352ee8⋯.jpg (154.45 KB, 512x768, 2:3, 1d6d32406352ee8bbbccfe16a3….jpg)


This resonates with me.

67fa21  No.2355507


What's weird is, WHY would God need the sacrifice anything at all?

/Methinks that goes fundamentally against HIS Creation, and can never serve for ingratiating anyone who does it, with HIM, but contrarywise.

Why would GOD want anybody to gratuitiously destroy any part of HIS Creation?

Sounds rather like a "smart" move of Satan to insult God via unsuspecting (at best) peasants. OSIT.

a0ddb6  No.2356046


The idea of dying and being resurrected was taught by the mystery schools and others as the path to connecting to "god" or the mysteries, saw a great video on it but can't remember which, here's a few, I think it might have been Dark Journalist with Joseph P. Farrel:


The initiate was actually brought to a state of physical death or very close by drugs and then taught by entities on the other side, then resurrected. The story of Christ's resurrection is a continuation of a long spiritual tradition.

65bd2b  No.2376768



Part 2 Version 2

>>2024198 - Please provide references or source

Example → >>2024374, >>2024424, >>2024509, >>2024617 - Method

>>1941501, >>1946496, >>1952500 - Babylon, Bible, Nimrod, NIMROD 2268 - 1868BC

>>1942064 - Nimrod Meaning

>>1945578 - Definition Babel

>>1946557 - Nimrod connected to Freemasons

>>1949306 - MOAR Nimrod ? Masons,>>1946667

Nimrod is Gilgamesh

>>1948148 - CONFIRMED, >>1948205

>>2232275 - Nimrod is frozen in Antarctica?,>>2251719

>>2232325 - God picks Noah and starts new (post-flood), Devil promotes Nimrod. Languages confused, Abraham around at time Nimrod dies (connected to Egypt) losing an eye. All seeing eye.


>>1958756 - 1200BC TO 539BC - https:// www.preceden.com/timelines/210128-world-civilizations

>>1956421 - Phoenician = Irish???, >>1956424, >>1956426 SUMMARY W REPTILES? >>1956445

>>1970380,>>1970497,>>1970536 - Phoenician migration to Europe. Celtic Druids. Ireland. Still exist today in Lebanon.

>>2232151 - SUMMARY, Druids / Irish colony of Phoenicia. Influenced modern religion? Paganism? Hidden symbolism?

>>1969250 - ==TREE OF TAINT== Phoenician Symbolism


>>2002207 - Free Masons one part of many

>>2003005 (((They))) worship Venus, morning star. >>2002258 Astarte aka Isis.

>>1984421 - Red Cross founder mason

>>1952706 - Freud was a suspected mason

>>2016642 - Masons

>>2026847 - Rebellion within masons? Opposite in photos / art,>>2016642


>>2284443 - 32 degree badge with Qanon, >>2281916

>>2292236 - Lodge room. G = Satan

>>2280385 - 32nd degree summary - interpretation

>>2281387 - Phoenix is their symbol = Hermetecism / Kabbalah, >>2281213

>>2281112 - Mason's cannot talk politics. Support whatever side is 'elected'.


>>2017712 - VIDEO 'HISTORY OF RELIGION (Part 1): Pagans, Nimrod, Babylon - Christain Based viewpoint - Bible - CUSH is important. Post flood, Noah, Ham (Paganism), Cush (Creation of Babylon) to Nimrod. Really starts with Cain. Nimord is killed by Uncle Shem, (Mother of Nimrod [Semiramis], then married son Nimrod)

>>1949712 - VIDEO 'Luxor, the source of light.' Documentary on hotel Casino in Las Vegas.

>>1961925 - VIDEO 'Saturn was the Sun' - who or what are the Gods, >>1961742

>>2011419 - VIDEO 'Eve the Eclipse Goddess - Freemasonry and Fallen Angeles'

>>2012261 - VIDEO Esoteric Grammatica - Magik sigil

>>2303946, - VIDEOS, Sylvie Ivanowa,>>2295790,>>2290853 - Alt History Current time 1018? Doubled Headed Phoenix,

Other Notables

>>1949306 –Good Summary - related to Knights of Malta and Templar's

>>2340376 - STAY THE COURSE - (Bible story) Theory: Paganism (Nimrod) vs Christianity - Main battle of religious ideologies (Starts w Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus). Acceptance of animal sacrifice but not human by God… Not logical that God would require sacrifice of HIS creation(s)?

>>2307118 - Any history before 14th Century is not reliable,



>>2011579 - Hebrew Alphabet - Phoenician Alphabet >>1732859 (previous)

>>1965106 - Serpent, Saturn, Cube

>>1942253 - Bugs Y

>>1949408 - Keys / Phallus Worship.

>>1976060 - Swirl Logo digs >>2001832

>>2031802 - Burney Relief (Queen of the Night)

>>2232732 - Switzerland → CIA - Khasarian / Zionist strong hold. CIA connected. 500 years of peace. Connected to Knights Templar. Guard Pope. PHOENICIA

I have been trying to put together a timeline of events. The myth of the flood / event that takes place seem like logical place to start. That assumes that there was in fact an event or restart that changed everything (flood, meteor, pole shift, whatever)

Also, this story (Nimrod is post flood [3 generations], Bible). 2348BC OR 5000BC TO 1300BC (2731BC) - Nobody knows for sure.


ABC Sauce for flood: 5000BC



c0d79f  No.2397920

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0dc429  No.2412898

File: 7b63c28edc2a3ee⋯.jpg (710.16 KB, 712x1006, 356:503, 7b63c28edc2a3ee74eb47622eb….jpg)

"The Roman historian Diodorus and other ancient historians gave graphic accounts of Carthaginian child sacrifice: “There was in their city a bronze image of Cronus, extending its hands, palms up and sloping towards the ground, so that each of the children when placed thereon rolled down and fell into a sort of gaping pit filled with fire.”

Diodorus even said that some citizens who bought children from poor people and reared them specially for sacrifice believed misfortunes had resulted because they had not sacrificed their own offspring."


f1ee3d  No.2414403

He's a fake Pope.


Irish Wisdom by Connor MacDari, 1923


f1ee3d  No.2414700


Treason and Destruction of America


The Ugly Truth About the ADL




457-461 here




9c06e5  No.2448196


>But it's no doubt that the viking raids that destabilised Europe played a part in the grand plan.


0dc429  No.2462860

File: 3da480d63a8f7f9⋯.jpg (87.94 KB, 500x500, 1:1, 3da480d63a8f7f923e6a082596….jpg)


Great contribution to the thread. Real happy to have you here.

9ab44a  No.2471873


relevant considering Q's new tripcode being a country near Caucas mountains? Abkhazia

11b6fc  No.2474934

King Ahaz, 11th King of Judah, sacrificed his 1st Son in Moloch-worship in infancy - estimated between 750BCE and 706BCE

2Ki 16:1 In the seventeenth year of Pekah the son of Remaliah Ahaz the son of Jotham king of Judah began to reign.

2Ki 16:2 Twenty years old was Ahaz when he began to reign, and reigned sixteen years in Jerusalem, and did not that which was right in the sight of the LORD his God, like David his father.

2Ki 16:3 But he walked in the way of the kings of Israel, yea, and made his son to pass through the fire, according to the abominations of the heathen, whom the LORD cast out from before the children of Israel.

c0d79f  No.2475382


The Vikings attacked monasteries. Sure, they did have gold relics there, but what they had of very high importance was books and manuscripts. The Vikings were destroying history.

c0d79f  No.2475399


>Diodorus even said that some citizens who bought children from poor people and reared them specially for sacrifice believed misfortunes had resulted because they had not sacrificed their own offspring."

This is 'funny', because the idea of sacrifice is to sacrifice something you love. If you just had the kid so you could kill it, then you NEVER loved it.

c0d79f  No.2475470

File: a85b6984e40750d⋯.jpg (46.27 KB, 600x364, 150:91, Ready-Player-One-Saturn-Pe….jpg)


(SPOILER, sorta not really)

This picture is of the Creator's apartment, the button on the wall will erase the VR Simulation forever for everyone and everyone will force to live in reality. Right above is a massive picture of Saturn. To the left is a fucking pentagram.

Directed by Stephen Speilberg


11b6fc  No.2476213

Six Kingdoms

Daniel 2:32-33

Head gold – Babylon

Cest and arms of silver - Persia

Belly and thighs of bronze - Greek

Legs of iron – Rome

Feet partly of iron and partly of red (potter's) clay – Roman Church

Daniel 2:34-35

Rock cut “not by human hands” and “became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth” Christain Kingdom

Daniel 2:43 the iron mixed with clay, so the peoples will mix with one another, but will not hold together any more than iron mixes with clay.

1054AD - Eastern Orthodox Church and the Catholic Church - The Eastern Orthodox Church believed that any honor paid to “icons” was a form of idolatry (worshiping false gods)

The First Crusade (1095–1099) Pope Urban II ordered the war named Princes' Crusade to conquer the Holy Land (the Levant) and Jerusalem and establish the Kingdom of Jerusalem. They were killing Christians, Jews and Muslims… https://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com/gh2_crusades.htm

“The Christian Eastern Emperor was shocked to find his capital under attack by Western Christians in Holy Week"

Knights Hospitaller and Knights Templar - The Western Church regarded crusaders as military pilgrims. They took vows and were rewarded with privileges of protection for their property at home. Any legal proceedings against them were suspended. Another major inducement was the offer of indulgences for the remission of sin. Knights were especially attracted by what were effectively Get-Out-Of-Hell-Free cards allowing them to commit any sins throughout the rest of their lives without incurring liability in this or the next world. During the Crusades the Western Church developed new types of holy warrior. These were military monks such as the Knights Hospitaller and Knights Templar. They were literally both soldiers and monks, and took vows for both callings, fulfilling their holy duties by killing God's enemies. Originally they followed the rule of St Benedict.

0dc429  No.2479335

File: dac7e5353058d93⋯.jpg (17.86 KB, 235x255, 47:51, 72594f8afa00475ae3416fdfa4….jpg)


Details like this get me thinking about what positive affects these people must've been seeing after sacrificing their children. It doesn't sound like everyone involved in the ritual sacrifice is there for the sadistic pleasure of human suffering. They must've seen some overwhelming tangible evidence of a positive outcome.

Maybe those in control had what was considered mystery knowledge about agriculture. Is it possible that in a place like Carthage, the few in charge allowed crops to fail until their sadistic cravings were fulfilled?

Maybe those at the top took a sick pleasure in watching the most notable of the nation willingly sacrifice their children(future competition) to them in the name of their false god.

d1b5b7  No.2479711

File: 4654e772a82e0ac⋯.jpg (32.78 KB, 351x201, 117:67, cuomo.jpg)

Wow. Listen to five minutes of this from the start point I set. Former Bush HUD official/FHA Commissioner talks about Cuomo/Kemp blackmail. Inside info on Franklin.

Pedo blackmail system exposed.


9cbc50  No.2481406

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0dc429  No.2481558

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

If those interested in this topic aren't watching Robert Sepehr's videos, you're doing yourself a disservice. He's a wealth of knowledge on this subject. His videos lately have been extremely relevant.

9cbc50  No.2481559

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

On Saturn and the Flood

9cbc50  No.2481694

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Turning Crescent & Pillar of the Sky

9cbc50  No.2482007

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9cbc50  No.2482219

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>2 suns

>Saturn was "The best sun"

9cbc50  No.2482336

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9cbc50  No.2482524

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9cbc50  No.2483037

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9cbc50  No.2483319

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Saturn scene from "The Holy Mountain" - 1973 film

>My name is Sel, my planet is Saturn. My customers are children. We manufacture war toys. Workers needed in the miniature plastic bomb shop. We have an electronic computer programmed with the politics of the government. The government is our client. We feed the computer data on coming wars and revolutions. It tells us what kind of toys to produce to condition children from birth. If the government calculates it will be necessary to wage war against Peru, our machine studies the Peruvians and tells us what to do. We manufacture hyper-sexed brown native vampires, who can only be destroyed by a cross the color of white skin. We create a laxative that induces vomiting. We name it after the capital of Peru and tint it with the color of the natives. We started a comic book campaign. For 15 years in advance, we condition children to hate the future enemy. In 15 years these children will go off to war, to kill Peruvians with pleasure.

9cbc50  No.2483393

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Symbols of an Alien Sky (Full Documentary)

9cbc50  No.2483437

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Episode 2 Symbols of an Alien Sky: The Lightning Scarred Planet, Mars (Full Documentary)

9cbc50  No.2483458

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Episode 3 Symbols of an Alien Sky: The Electric Comet (Full Documentary)

b916c7  No.2483501

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The apron is described as a badge of innocence. How can you have a badge of innocence? Isn't a badge a standard that you hold yourself to in order to properly server the community? They have a badge of innocence and this is important because apparently they have a hard on for decapitating people and they want to dress as executioners. Notice the apron. The badge of innocence. They did not sin they are following the death cult rules. This is how deranged this crap is.

Not to mention the fucking things have a black or skull side they flip over the apron and its black with blood drops embroidered on it. Nothing awful must be going on there.

9cbc50  No.2484006

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Why is purple the color of royalty?

Scientific evidence to support the theory that the sky was once purple during the Golden Age of Saturn:

>Chlorophyll, the main photosynthetic pigment of plants, absorbs mainly blue and red wavelengths from the Sun and reflects green ones, and it is this reflected light that gives plants their leafy color. This fact puzzles some biologists because the sun transmits most of its energy in the green part of the visible spectrum.

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I hope the info I'm posting is useful anons.

9cbc50  No.2484361

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Jupiter vs Saturn

11b6fc  No.2485199

Were there giants?

What happened to Neanderthals? Cro-Magnon?


The cubit is based upon a human characteristic and being the length of the forearm from the tip of the middle finger to end of the elbow. The Philistine (Ancient Palestinian) was approximately 25 inches (64 centimeters) and the Talmudist cubit was approximately 22 inches (56 centimeters). The ancient Egyptian and Sumerian cubit was approximately 21 inches (53 centimeters). The Ancient Israelite, Greek and Roman cubit was 18 inches (46 centimeters). These varied according to time and geographical area. The cubit is a reasonable and reliable source to answer where and when giants were in the land.

The bible [better understood to refer to ancient text as the bible is not the only source of information] refers to giants [nef-eel', nef-eel' derives from naw-fal] and this human being is a “feller” [one who has fallen away from God], that is, a bully or tyrant. A feller is one who is fierce, cruel, dreadful or savage to the extreme of deadly and destructive.

Cro-Magnon bones DNA testing revealed they were here 28,000 years ago. There skulls were larger and average height would that of a Philistine. Now we know several type human beings existed and interbred. Not aliens, but the natural laws of earth seem to be the Genesis story. Each type human being interbreeding and like today the bias attitude which is just a fear of being “phased out”. Reality is varied types of humans of old migrated, cross bred and today we have the result of one type human.

The legends of aliens, gods or such other imagination is simply propaganda to make one type human inferior or superior to another. In the 21st century we still witness this partiality, because of the color of someone's skin and this “misunderstanding” is being phased out as humans become wiser and realize we are one type human, the-human-kind.

Thank you for reading…

b0f13a  No.2490182


Not Nimrod.

b0f13a  No.2490455

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Lower left graphic is NOT the sun or Saturn.

It's SIRIUS; the brightest star in our skies, larger than our sun. It's the Star of the East (as in Jesus), said to be our sister sun, the central' sun of this galaxy.

Sirius appeared on our horizon a few weeks ago and is currently rising and will align with the sun on 8/8. Aug. 8th is known as The Lion's Gate.

Sirius also known as the Dog Star (every [D]og has its [D]ay- Q) and is located in Cannis Major which also aligns with the Orion Constellation.

Sirius is said to bring knowledge from the ancients, upon alignment with the sun, bathe the earth in LIGHT and wisdom of old. Interestingly, the 'black hole sun' is said to be blocking this LIGHT from Sirius and has been for centuries. It's light is essential to humankind.

Moar here: https://amysticmind.com/lets-get-sirius/

6b1214  No.2490498

Love this thread and so happy I found it. Been watching Q since the beginning, but my biggest gripe has been the lack of discussion on the esoteric elements that clearly walk beside us and rule us from the shadows.

Couple of interesting things hopefully that connect some dots (as Jesus said in the gospel of Thomas…

The angels and the prophets will come to you and give to you those things you (already) have. And you too, give them those things which you have, and say to yourselves, 'When will they come and take what is theirs?


I see that as what we're each doing for one another. Which leads me to my question - have ya'll read the nag hammadi scriptures, in particular the gospel of thomas?

In studying it other the last couple of years, and combining other ideas I see much of it as very metaphorical. I don't see gods as Gods - simply some kind of metaphysical link/pull that we have on one another. If we unite under a single God, perhaps we have more (meme) magic than we realize. That's not to say there isn't a real SINGLE GOD, but I think what we're all talking about here is at a level underneath that. In fact, I wonder if Yeshua knew this, and knew that to create a symbol of him would allow him to continue to "live" forever. IE through our ongoing thoughts/actions under his guidance it manifests him on some plane (perhaps literally - perhaps, as I have heard, there's a Christ around right now…).

Some other stuff. Do you all read Miles Mathis' work? I have reason to believe MM is a master mason, but it doesn't mean he doesn't drop some real hints from time to time (perhaps being a project on organic growth online) - he has a recent paper that details out both symbolism as it relates to this cult (flies and bees) as well as papers on the lion symbolism and how it's conquered others over time…

https://wwwd.mileswmathis.com (might be best to manually copy/paste so we don't show referrer traffic to that)

in fact that leads me to another interpretation of the gospel of thomas:

In it Jesus talks blessed is the lion that is eaten by man for he becomes man. And what a terrible thing when a man is eaten by a lion.

I've read some critiques that perhaps it's a metaphor for the base desires of men. Blessed is he who overcomes his base desires (which seems to fit with other messages in the gospel including self-reflection), but he who is overcome (eaten) by those same desires, is cursed. Perhaps the metaphor fits at an additional symbolic level - blessed are we who overcome (eat) the lion (this cult) and blessed are those lions that join/are eaten by us. And cursed are the men that chose to be eaten by the lion (those that aren't seeing throught this madness).

6b1214  No.2490613


Giants was just a metaphor (IMO) for big personalities, tribe leaders, etc. I think even if true, it's not really relevant to the quest and a distraction.


In my own research I definitely agree that our sun wasn't always our sun, and that we had a much redder atmosphere (when you study the effects of certain wave lengths of light on human tissue, as well as the effects of C02, it's clear we were in a different atmosophere at one point).

With that said, the Thunderbolts Project has been co-opted by intelligence (and I think this cult) and so am wary of what they put out. They have literally said it at one of their presentations.

c0d79f  No.2490620


Wow, this one is new to me! Nice!

c0d79f  No.2490630


Yes, if you have more, keep it coming

b0f13a  No.2490640

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NOT Saturn.

Pic related: Sirius has been used in many forms of media.

Dollar bill= Sirius, not the sun as darkness is depicted on the bill.

Tarot- Note one foot on land, the other in water, a night sky, not the sun.

Eye of Horus: Note the 'eye' is upside-down in this artist depiction.

Ancient knowledge was stolen from the Egyptians and has been hidden from us since.

Welcome to the Age if Aquarius!

6b1214  No.2490686


Is that really young Obama? Doesn't look like him.

b0f13a  No.2490687

File: c8d2a44d166e555⋯.jpg (4.39 KB, 193x135, 193:135, brand.jpg)


I forgot to add that the illustration depicting Sirius is nearly the same as brandings of trafficked victims of cults- just inverted a bit (pic related)

Also, the dollar bill- notice the illuminati eye is covering the LIGHT of Sirius.

c0d79f  No.2490690


Sorry but that doesn't make sense as the NWO is supposed to have Nazism as a subgroup. That's impossible if it's nuclear as Nuclear Weapons (as far as we're told) were developed well after Nazism was spawned

6b1214  No.2490728



Ever find it interesting that the creators of "the red pill" meme, were brothers that chopped their dicks off and became women? Gotta break those ladder steps.

b0f13a  No.2490759


Supposed to?

Sauce on supposition?

6b1214  No.2490769



I've heard a lot of this symbolism was misinterpreted through time (this is just a theory from someone else)… IE, imagine you lived 1000 years ago, and were able to "magically" navigate via the stars, you look up, see something and are able to guide a boat to a destination. To onlookers, it would look magical. And these ideas have been corrupted and misinterpreted through time.

Curious though, does anyone know WHY we named constellations the way we did? I never understood their groupings and naming, never seemed to actually fit the groupings.

c0d79f  No.2490780


Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: fb1a66 No.618754 📁

Mar 10 2018 18:37:22 (EST)

N does not refer to Nazi.

The continued Nazi ideology is relevant.

Events will clarify.

Think subgroup.


b0f13a  No.2490804


Yes! Q verified!

The 'Nazi's' are the group that has taken NUCLEAR mainstream and uses it to CONTROL.

NUCLEAR World Order.

ThanQ, Anon!

c0d79f  No.2490826


The Phoenicians followed a star called "Merika", possibly Venus (maybe Sirius??)

And I'm almost convinced the Phoenicians were in the new world.

Phoenicians became Veneicians.

John Cabot placed a Venetian flag on North America. Also a British one.

100 years later, England returns to claim their flag that Cabot planted. Few know about the Veneician flag.

They call the area AMERICA, supposedly after some dipshit guy named Amerigo, but that makes no sense as he wasn't the first nor was he an important mariner.

This is the Land of Merika, that when you follow the star you get to.

The Freemasons literally have a landclaim to all of the New World because of Cabot.

They also have a flag on the Moon (if you believe we went there, I personally do)

c0d79f  No.2490843


Note that Cabot mysteriously disappears. His son Sabastian becomes important later on.

b0f13a  No.2490846


I believe the naming of constellations is to link them to the stories of old- to verify through the stars, our story as humans and our history throughout time.

I have a hard time seeing the archer and the dog- all of it- too!

b0f13a  No.2490967



SIRIUS! Our sister sun!

She's over twice the size of our sun, burns at near the same surface temperature but is much denser, allowing Sirius to burn hotter than our sun.

Sirius' LIGHT has been blocked by those that rule over us for many centuries. Enter President Donald J Trump to save the day with SPACE FORCE!

Pray that we've uncovered the 'black hole sun' and this year during Sirius' alignment with our sun ('Lion's Gate'), the LIGHT from Sirius will bathe the earth in the LIGHT mankind need for its survival.

Coming 8/8 to the skies near (You)!

6b1214  No.2491011


Does it relate to Bormann being in South America after the war, and perhaps running things from there?


Which reminds me of more symbolism perhaps we could all dig into… spiders.







b0f13a  No.2491459

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I've researched this many years ago. Never come to a conclusion. The quote "Weaving spiders come not here )as seen in the Bohemian Grove 'logo') comes from Shakespeare's Mid-Summer Nights Dream.

The woman of the story is Titania, which is oddly comparable to Tatyana Romanov; daughter of Nikolas Romanov, Russia's 2nd Dynasty. All were assassinated by a Jew in 1918 and afterwards began white genocide in Europe.

Does the BG logo speak of the Romanov's and their assassination? Is it this secret society that has hidden/dismantled the historical rule of Dynasty's?

Check out Miss Tatyana and brother Alexei.

11b6fc  No.2491652

File: fb4230c29d21c7c⋯.jpg (171.7 KB, 384x554, 192:277, bk50291d5d.jpg)

Ancient Aratta-Ukraine [oldest civilization?]

30,000 Year Old Alien Porn [not really]

Cone head, many symbols come from here

story of garden of Eden is found here

almost every hut had traces of marijuana and beer

b0f13a  No.2491738


Do you think it's a conehead? I dunno- looks like maybe it's just the hair pulled up to make it appear that way?

And I don't think it's 'porn' either… she's pregnant.

11b6fc  No.2491836


her titties don't look like milkers?

hair could be worn off on forehead from fondling?

although very interesting

11b6fc  No.2491857


her eyes look alien too

b0f13a  No.2491983


Have a theory but as Q says,The world cannot swallow the truth.


Q !ITPb.qbhqo ID: 66o6MRSe No.150565710

Nov 23 2017 00:33:39 (EST)

The world cannot swallow the truth.


11b6fc  No.2492128


what is your theory, interested

11b6fc  No.2492261


Ukraine maybe Iran? Some think Iran

Jiroft - Iran - tradition of 'stargates' in Near Eastern culture

Inana was ruler of the mountain were the sun rose and set, thus ruler of birth and death, the mountain in an astrological sense being the zodiacal light, in a natural sense mountains of the distant horizon, in a symbolic sense the great ziggurat of Aratta


8e54af  No.2492275


Make sure it sounds really crazy so you can get it copied by MSM and go viral

9cbc50  No.2492331

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The top 3 pics about the purple dawn / Saturn configuration may not have all the details exactly correct but you get the general idea. The theory is still evolving and also things changed over time. There is a story here. See my posts above with Venus included in the configuration and also a timeline of history. The Mayans knew much but (((someone))) burned all their books. It's all connected. Much more info in the 6 videos I posted.

The idea about plants and purple light is my own personal theory but it seems to support the whole idea. Also tropical fossils found on Antarctica interest me and seem to be connected to this theory.

I'm blown away by the amount of connections I keep making. Not only from historical sources but also hidden in modern media including music. I believe the things I posted to be the sources of many of our familiar symbols and designs in architecture and antique furniture. Once you understand the sources of the symbols it's easier to spot them everywhere on a daily basis.

>If Saturn worship has been going on for centuries, how did they know about the hexagon on Saturn?

Because people could walk outside and see it. They could see Heaven, they could see Lucifer, they could see Moloch, they could see the Tree of Life, the Menorah, the Burning Bush, the Swastika, the Celtic Cross, the Eye of Ra, different variations of Serpents and Dragons, and countless other religious figures and symbols physically present in the sky, over the course of various periods of time in history.

Saturn may have caused the great flood(s) and Jupiter later overthrew Saturn. Venus was the mother goddess and Mars was the warrior. Humanity watched it all unfold in the sky and we were amazed and terrified.

b0f13a  No.2492389


Originally, I thought that ancient Egyptians had 'ancient knowledge'- you know, all the secrecy, pyramids, hieroglyphs, etc. But difficult digs in to Aratta lead to this being the first settlement of 'humans' (Iraq). Anon here noted the artifact looked as if it had 'alien' eyes. I agree. What if, the Garden of Eden- and our Biblical descendants- were an alien-like humanoid? What if, to dilute that ancient knowledge and DNA, the 'Fallen Angels' or the evil-doers we fight today, what if they stole the ancient knowledge and to complete their theft, began cloning the original humans?

This theory would also explain why a small percentage of our population is RH- or, blood-types that do NOT have the Rhesus monkey gene; a carry-over (if you will) of the true ancestry of our past.

The part that's hard to swallow is that we wouldn't be humanoids like Bible depictions state, but actual descendants from another, alien culture.

That's the short version of my theory.

Out there, huh?

Not many could swallow that.

b0f13a  No.2492448


One Anons theory does not a movement make.

And if MSM wanted to go there, maybe they could also do a piece for the public and explain where Rh- blood-type comes from.

THAT is something even modern medicine won't tell us.

b0f13a  No.2492480


Anon! The last pic on your post- do you see the sun in the upper right corner? If that's the sun, then what is the brighter light in the middle?


Our TRUE sun.

8/8 will be glorious!

693581  No.2492596


I’ve been wondering if they were victims of the pedo cult. Certainly massive abuse was heaped on both of them. Very sad.

11b6fc  No.2492631


In the beginning the "gods" not Elohim created the earth and sky. And the gods created plant, animal, human etc… then the humans became as the gods… In Job he is in communication with Elohim, if the case was Elohim created the earth and sky the word would have been used in Genesis, but gods was used, definitely a misinterpretation of the KJV and most other bibles, what makes us "alien" is inside, we are definitely not an animal and have ability to manipulate nature

8e54af  No.2492726


Maybe you could write that all up into a book like thousands of others before you have done.

Be careful of plagiarism like taking someone else creativity as your own.

Although you might have to sell-publish since there seem to be a glut of those already on the market.

You need some new angle and lots of promotion

Good luck

b0f13a  No.2492769


What's your point, Anon?

Why all uppity about publishing?

Never said I was interested in being a PAYtriotalienon.

Just a theory. Words on a page of obscurity. Like everything else here, right?

11b6fc  No.2492778



your theory is closer to the truth than what most religions believe

8e54af  No.2492832


You mistake them for actual information sources.

I am sure you realize they are only looking for quotes they can use to ridicule and make us look loony.

They have lots to draw from here already.

Maybe you could write that story about Rh- blood comes from?

This might help you get started



The term "Rh" was originally an abbreviation of "Rhesus factor." It was discovered in 1937 by Karl Landsteiner and Alexander S. Wiener who, at the time, believed it to be a similar antigen found in rhesus monkey red blood cells. It was subsequently learned the human factor is not identical to the rhesus monkey factor; but by then, "Rhesus Group" and like terms were already in widespread, worldwide use. Thus, notwithstanding it is a misnomer, the term survives (e.g. rhesus blood group system, and the obsolete terms rhesus factor, rhesus positive, and rhesus negative - all three which actually refer specifically and only to the Rh D factor; and, thus, are misleading when unmodified). Contemporary practice is to use "Rh" as a term of art instead of "Rhesus"; viz. "Rh Group," "Rh factors," "Rh D," etc.

b0f13a  No.2492966


Wow. You're responding to an Anon that is Rh- du-… the very stuff you copypasta'd from a wiki source.

That wiki info is so bogus and has no basis in fact. Matter of fact, it makes no sense. Did you read it before you placed it here?

Are you aware that RH-du- cannot be cloned? Are you aware that those with that blood-type must stock-pile their own blood as there are no available matches in the blood 'bank'?

If you're more in to the mathematical portion of this, can you explain, or does wiki have a section, how do two RH+ parents produce an RH- child? 2 positives do not produce a negative, yet they do in humans.

But thanks for pointing out that wiki is perpetuating the true origins of our blood and propagandizing for the likes of those who might believe it.

8e54af  No.2492971


It couldn't be a misinterpretation since they didn't include it. It was hidden in Ethiopia where the real scholar were. They kept it secret to enhance their mojo.

Even Louis Farrakhan know about The Wheel (aka Mothership) that he learned from the Nubians, who we the real Pharaohs.

They are really the ones that had advance technologies but the White Devils stole it from them

b0f13a  No.2493044


ThanQ for that, Anon

The fact that most religions don't or wouldn't entertain it is exactly why the world is not ready to swallow that pill.

I agree!

11b6fc  No.2493079


maybe something not in the blood, but the energy that runs the body, look at the weapons caffeine, pain killers, meth, sugar, pysch drugs, anything to disrupt the nervous system especially the brain's nerves, the flouride calcifies the pituitary gland which prevents deep rem sleep and prevents dreams, meditation the things our soul needs,

yes our "alien" self is inside, the spirit, this I know

11b6fc  No.2493167


that demon is trying really hard to aggravate us, must have hit a nerve of truth

9cbc50  No.2493191

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I didn't come to post about giants but I'll put my 2 cents in. The theory I'm promoting would actually support the possibly of giant people/animals/plants pre-flood. Before the flood there would have been much less water on Earth, so possibly less gravity. Also more oxygen. Less gravity + more oxygen = giants. The theory is that hydrogen clouds from Saturn combined with oxygen on Earth to create seemingly endless rain. Also she sun is not our original sun therefore… sunburn is explained. It's not natural. No wonder people used to live longer… Less sun, less gravity, and more oxygen. The Golden Age of Paradise.


I don't think Electric Universe has everything 100% correct but it seems to be a step (or huge leap) in the right direction. They don't acknowledge all of the huge religious/cultural/political implications but one step at a time. (((Mainstream scientists))) hate it so it makes me curious.




I don't agree that it's Sirius. Everything I've seen has pointed to a Saturn/Venus/Mars polar configuration (Saturn later replaced by Jupiter). Saturn was called "The Best Sun." I'm not saying Sirius wasn't important too but whatever it was, it was large and prominent in the sky, fixed at the celestial pole 24/7, with a rotating crescent (circular serpent). Only bodies like planets/moons will have crescents. Also, a visible hexagon on Saturn (north pole) and a visible swastika on Jupiter (north pole).


Yes it's Obama. It's cropped from a photo with Obama's mom. Google young Obama with family.

b0f13a  No.2493296


whatever it was

Sirius still exist, Anon!

It becomes visible to us every fall. It was and is still considered to be our sister sun, the sun and LIGHT of this galaxy (larger than our sun and the BRIGHTEST star in our sky!). It IS the Star of the East- as in Jesus; Sirius rises in the east every year and will align with our sun and earth on 8/8.

We all believe what we believe but think you should give Sirius another look.

Sirius IS the 'sun' you see in all the old depictions, including the 'blocked' 'sun' on the dollar bill.

c0d79f  No.2495582


> They have lots to draw from here already.

And that's great! I'm glad we're all open to drop whatever nutty idea we might have about the true nature of reality here. Together I think we have a good chance at piecing together the puzzle but we need to be cool about letting a few "out there" ideas float around because who knows, it might inspire someone here to dig and find something incredible.

I'm 90% convinced at this point that it's not 2018. I don't know what year it is, since History itself seems to be a string of lies patched together with duct-tape.

Before this thread, i would have never thought that.

c0d79f  No.2495639

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I love the "Polar Configuration" theory and I think it indeed answers a lot of mysteries of our past.

What I can't figure out though is HOW we could leave Saturn's orbit and how that wouldn't literally kill everything when we did. We'd be thrust into the iciest age of all time until finally arriving back in the Goldilocks Zone of our solar system.

Surely there's some evidence out there in our solar system that suggests a reconfiguration of our planets?

The most incredible, perhaps incredulous, thing about the theory is that this happened within HUMAN MEMORY. So very recently.

c0d79f  No.2496597

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And there it is!

9cbc50  No.2497576

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Nom nom nom

11b6fc  No.2499817

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Sumerian King List - “the kingship had descended from sky” and “the kingship was in Eridu(g)”

“Alulim… ruled for 28800 years”

Alaljar ruled for 36000 years.

“they ruled for 64800 years."

…eight kings with a total of 241,200 years from the time when kingship “descended from sky” to the time of "the Flood" then "the kingship was lowered from sky" again

e6811c  No.2500507


What do you know about the guillotines and masons being executioners in a marital law scenerio?

c0d79f  No.2501025


Interesting how scientists think Homo Sapiens are about 200,000 years old

11b6fc  No.2504416


DNA research is changing human history / cro magnon in Europe 28000 years ago, Neanderthal 5000 years ago / understanding both were as intelligent as homosapien

this thread has changed my view on Christianity / as a I read the Ancient Sumerian and view the carvings realize "tree of life" is in most and the cherubim 4 winged creatures are the ancient Sumerian kings / seems Ancient Israel adopted much of Sumerian history / also the flood / being a scholar of many decades in Ancient Israel and Christian Studies the parallels are obvious

8e54af  No.2505396


You read that from the tablets of do the Sumerians have a website?

If they were so powerful why did they pick such a shitty place to live, and how did the survive before & after the flood?

c4f0f4  No.2509390


I always found their assassination very strange. Nikolas wasn't some tyrant and the riots only broke out once he left his home to visit the front lines of the world war. A war he already wasn't very enthusiastic about. Smells of deep state shenanigans to me. Because it happened during the first WW it is basically a foot note in history. Seems like by design.

5a2af0  No.2511289

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The keystone is the circle on their shirts.

c0d79f  No.2511969

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Amazingly well done telling of the Sumerian creation myth, must watch!