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7fb563 No.4477 [Open thread]

Anyone have a guide on how to customize your 8chan page?

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7fb563 No.4493

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7fb563 No.4494

>>4493

>click [Options]

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7fb563 No.4525

>>4477

lrn 2 css newfag

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26033f No.4450 [Open thread]

Good book for learn Perl?

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26033f No.4451

The llama book (Learning Perl) is great if you don't know much about programming.

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26033f No.4453

Modern Perl, you can read it free online

http://onyxneon.com/books/modern_perl/

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26033f No.4457

https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/

https://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html

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26033f No.4615

>>4457

>sicp

lol

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3a653e No.4444 [Open thread]

So I'm thinking of making a D&D application that handles maps and turns and so on. Kind of like roll20 but not on a website.

So I'm just wondering what api you guys might recommend for the graphical portion. I'm using C#. Its what I was taught sorry

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3a653e No.4634

C and assembly, goy.

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3a653e No.4635

>>4634

Elaborate

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7009d1 No.4441 [Open thread]

Hey, i'm working on a hobby operating system called FutureOS. The name is because it'll only get finished in the future, as in, never complete. The goals are to have a FAT12 or FAT32 filesystem, basic sound support, and TCP networking by then end of 2016. The operating system currently runs in 16 bit real mode on the x86 architecture but there will be a way to enter 32 bit protected mode later in development. If you want to contribute to the github repo, you can find it here: https://github.com/Penot1/FutureOS

Right now, there are two commands, "echo" and "loadb". echo prints whatever parameter it is given and loadb loads the second floppy disk into memory. Feel free to submit pull requests, and if you have any questions either send me an email or put them in this thread.

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7009d1 No.4585

Hey how'd you get started on building your own operating system? Have already but want to see how others' ideas came about

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c8a876 No.4429 [Open thread]

Alright, so I've been making scripts that interact with websites for awhile now, usually what I do is view the relevant requests with Live HTTP Headers and then work from there. However, this program I am working on now isn't showing the requests to send a message to the chatroom in Live HTTP Headers. Someone told me to use mitmproxy however I am having trouble installing the certificates. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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6044d4 No.4425 [Open thread]

Do any of you know any learning resources similar to build your own lisp(http://www.buildyourownlisp.com/), except for C++?

A tutorial where you build a small/medium sized project, and in the meantime learn about the language.

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32d5a9 No.4418 [Open thread]

Do you guys have any guide to learn C# / Visual Studio?

I'm just out of HS and we learned Java but I don't like it, it's a bit too reclusive and I heard C# with VS is more sugary (also more jobs for it here).

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32d5a9 No.4419

I've been learning c# for some time now and have never found a great guide for it. You'll probably want to use multiple sources to get the best results. I've never used anything for just learning VS itself, I just pick things up from using it for C#/C++.

This is alright if you want to learn basic syntax. It also has some quizzes and tests, although I can't speak for how great they are:

https://www.tutorialspoint.com/csharp/index.htm

These two are more focused on Windows Forms, which is nice to know for learning the language but mostly obsolete compared to WPF these days. The videos also go a bit slow but aren't that long:

http://www.homeandlearn.co.uk/csharp/csharp.html

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0EE421AE8BCEBA4A

For learning WPF, these are okay:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8m4NUhTQU48LI4hMrzdiLxfSY4-QcJ3l

http://www.wpf-tutorial.com/

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32d5a9 No.4420

Are you willing to get actual books? Get Microsoft Press "C# Step by Step". requiresJust as a word of caution, the most recent editon focuses on Universal Windows Platform development with VS 2015 and Windows 10. If you only have Windows 7, you probably want to look for an earlier edition (from a quick search this may mean the 2010 edition; yes it uses VS 2010, but most things about the IDE will carry over and WPF is worth learning, probably more so than UWP).

>>4419

I wouldn't use WinForms for developing commercial software, but it still works great and allows you to quickly throw together GUI applications, so it works great for personal projects and LOB programs. It also has the benefit over WPF of being supported by Mono.

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32d5a9 No.4423

https://www.murach.com/shop/murach-s-adonet-4-database-programming-with-c-2010-detail

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32d5a9 No.4424

Using IDEs like visual studio or meant to develope prototypes, getting a working program together quickly. But because of the generated code, it's better to develop 3 tier programs from scratch while using the prototype as a guide

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53bbbc No.4280 [Open thread]

Is it possible to learn Java basics in about 1 week?

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53bbbc No.4287

Depends on what you mean by "the basics." If you're starting from no programming knowledge or experience, then probably not. If you are making a thread to asking this question, probably not.

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53bbbc No.4408

>>4280

IIRC I had the basics down in a few hours and my first ever project was to write an equivalent of a unix shell.

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53bbbc No.4409

>>4280

https://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/java/

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53bbbc No.4411

The basics are pretty easy really. It's just about rote memorisation of the Java syntax.

Where it can get difficult and where most tutorials fall short is in learning to conceptualise the best way to build and layout a program you're building for good readability and code portability.

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90f250 No.5267

alacrity

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e1639e No.4354 [Open thread]

/prog/ We need to talk about the posters.

Most of your posts are written by brand new coders who are dabbling with a variety of languages. Too many languages. These posters don't seem to know very much about the standards or styles of the code they discuss, yet have many opinions on the quality of the languages they have dabbled with.

Do you know why?

This is because of the Dunning-kruger effect.

Absolute beginners believe they are superior to anyone else, yet while gaining real experience in their confidence is shattered and they become aware of their impotent struggle against the ocean of knowledge that programming actually is.

Well? What do you have to say for yourself.

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e1639e No.4389

The board is dead as it is without scaring the newbs away.

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e1639e No.4391

>>4354

So what can we do to fix it?

testing code tags


do
multi
lines
work?
id
assume
so

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e1639e No.4404

If there were already a couple of quality threads here you could try redirecting people from /tech/

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825ec4 No.3909 [Open thread]

Hello /prog/!

Learning myself C at a steady and slow pace. Now I've learn that creating even the most simple TUI using printf is bloody murder. So I've decided to take it to the next level.

Can anyone please tell me if there's a good tutorial on how to create terminals using <curses.h> (or some other library).

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825ec4 No.3952

>>3947

Pirate Visual Basic for DOS.

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825ec4 No.3953

>>3952

>Visual Basic for DOS

Seems cool! And does that code transslate to C code?

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825ec4 No.3955

>>3940

>>3909

This one is ok OP, just remember that you have to use pdcurses if you want it to be remotely portable.

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825ec4 No.3959

>>3955

Thanks! But the terminal is to make it easier for me to explore and develop core mechanics.

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825ec4 No.4392

>>3909

Curses programs don't tend to look nearly as good as that pic. That looks more like something made with the old DOS Borland TurboVision library. Anyway, Borland eventually released the source code for that library, and you might even get it to compile on your OS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_Vision

You can still make nice stuff in Curses, but it's more work, and usually ends up looking more basic and less consistent than stuff made with TV.

There's also the S-Lang library, and various other alternatives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-Lang_(programming_library)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_user_interface

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077a75 No.4357 [Open thread]

Experienced hobbiest programmer here. I mostly use C, C++, Go, Python, and sh. I don't know any Java and would like to program apps for Android. What is the recommended course of action?

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077a75 No.4358

Learn Java, obviously. What kind of fucking question is that?

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077a75 No.4359

>>4358

An asshole answer for a legit question. I was hoping there was a C++ option I hadn't seen yet.

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077a75 No.4362

http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/127735/android-development-using-c-and-c

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c96202 No.4326 [Open thread]

I'm a Brit, recently relocated to the US on a fiance visa, and I'll be eligible to work here later this year.

My last job was as a developer for just under 5 years, working in fintech in London, in a company that's respected in the sector in Europe, but not very well known in North America.

I know that my previous experience and my education (CS at an Oxbridge uni) count for a significant amount in the UK tech job market - lots of tech companies are full of Oxbridge grads, and they like people who went to the same university as them, it's not very fair and it's not deliberate on their part but it's the way it is.

I expect that those things won't count for nearly as much when applying to US companies, and I will probably have to put in some effort to secure a job, I can't simply rely on networking and cronyism again.

What sort of experience should I expect in interviews? Do companies actually look at github profiles? Is HR as stupid over here as is often depicted and should I fill my resume with buzzwords? I'm sure I could pick up whatever technologies most job listings mention given time, but at the moment my skills are not very broad.

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c96202 No.4341

Companies look at everything you post online ever. HR is just as bad as they are depicted in movies. Much of the humor in movies like Office Space stems from the level of truth in it. Buzzwords are a must. Resumes are often screened by programs that prioritize the ones with more buzzwords and toss the ones with few to none. No human will likely read your resume, the US is full of short intention spans and idiotic employers.

The hiring manager will likely glance at or skim your resume, also looking for key words and hoping it isn't as boring as all the other ones they glanced at. They'll base there decision on how convincing you are, how confident/attractive you look, and how quickly you can turn the conversation into a friendly chat about the hiring manager's favorite topic, themselves.

Once you finally get a job, expect a bunch of idiots demanding impossible scenarios to be completed in an unrealistic amount of time.

Social skills and the ability to sell yourself are of the utmost importance. Basically, be everyone's buddy and feign interest in all the boring shit they tend to blab on about incessantly. Actual merit or knowledge is likely to lead to trouble if you flex it too much. If you come off as too intelligent, you may be seen as a potential threat. Also, don't go way above and beyond. People will see this kindness as a weakness and exploit you by dumping a bunch of work on you. They will also generally view you as a pushover and this can really hurt your chances for promotion.

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7c2268 No.4311 [Open thread]

Is there any tool that can generate C#, Java and Javascript class files (I know javascript have no classes) that can be easily converted to byte[] and back?

I remember google having something like it, but I don't even know how to search for something like it

I am expecting something that read some xml/json/proprietary file, and produce empty classes with just the serialize and deserialize methods ready

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7c2268 No.4319

You should write that tool yourself. I bet /tech/ would love to make a logo for it.

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7c2268 No.4330

In case you're still looking, Google's Protocol Buffers. You can also use MsgPack or thrift.

Protocol Buffers have a JSON serialization format, but it's not available in all languages.

The word you're looking for is "serialization". Binary serialization is what it looks like you really want.

Based on your last sentence, google protocol buffers is exactly what you want.

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24f8d5 No.4325 [Open thread]

If I wanted to make a programmable VM with customizable opcodes, is there any more performant way to do so than using C to fill an array with function pointers that doesn't involve assembly magic? I would like to keep the code more or less portable.

I am asking because accessing a function pointer is always kind of expensive, so I was wondering if there is some better way to do it or simply any other language that is faster for this purpose than C.

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f8ebc2 No.4058 [Open thread]

Hey /prog/,

Feeling down today about my major of choice. While most /g/ and /tech/ users are apes from poo-littered shitholes, I'm starting to think that I really have just fallen for the CS meme.

Somewhat sadly I fit the stereotype described in pic related to a T, but I have been very devoted to my studies since starting uni 2 and 1/2 years ago. I'd rather graduate with this degree than get weeded out in law or med school.

It remains my dream to become a computer wizard. Is it worth the effort, /prog/? Should I really be investing all of my time into this, or have I fallen for a meme profession in relatively low demand with high standards for new recruits?

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f8ebc2 No.4318

>>4058

Interesting read. I'm in a somewhat similar situation.

I'm doing a double bachelor, one in math and one in cs. I spent a lot of time learning to program and I've done some stuff I'm proud of, but I still feel like I'm far from a real computer wizard. I just don't know what I should do to achieve it. I've written lots of software in many different languages, and study the theory behind it at my university; what more can I do? Yet I remain a noob.

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f8ebc2 No.4321

>>4318

> Yet I remain a noob.

Keep doing more until you become a journeyman.

Also, learn English.

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f8ebc2 No.4616

>>4105

studying =! school

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f8ebc2 No.4627

>>4318

>>4058

Daily reminder that computer science has nothing to do with computers. If you wanted to become a computer wizard, then you should have studied electronic engineering. Computer science is the study of computation. You study computer science because you want to know about theory of computation which requires zero access to a computer.

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f8ebc2 No.4630

If it's the only thing that makes sense for you to learn, do it. Become a computer wiz, use your degree to get employed (no degree is a serious disadvantage in the industry. Ridiculous? yes, but not all that they teach you at uni is useless).

The guy who wrote the OP pic is absolutely retarded. You don't just learn the syntax and are good to go. Programming is a craft, it is very common for a beginner to think that you can do EVERYTHING with your new knowledge, but as the years pass you realize that there is a lot to learn onwards. I've seen a lot of rookie code that looks like nothing but italian dinner.

You can become a computer wizard, and be much more competent than the bunch of mandeeps that line up for shitty monkey positions. There are a lot of mediocre people but there is always need for someone who knows the ins and outs of their trade.

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