HUNGARY ENACTS SELF-REPOPULATION POLICIES Anonymous 07/29/19 (Mon) 01:40:38 82168d No. 13543335 [View All]
Hungary Offering $35,000, Lifetime Tax Exemption For Having Lots Of Children
Faced with a declining birth rate and an unwilling to fill population shortfalls with immigrants like some of its European neighbors, Hungary has rolled out a seven-point "Family Protection Action Plan" which showers boatloads of cash, loan assistance and tax breaks to couples who agree to crank out lots of Hungarian children.
For starters, the state is offering $35,000 to couples who get married and have at least three children. Specifically, women under 40 who are getting married for the first time will receive an interest-free, general-purpose loan of $35,000. Upon the birth of the couple's first and second children, loan payments will be suspended for three years each - with 1/3 of the principal paid off after the second child. After the third child is born, the debt will be wiped out.
Couples with two or more children can also use their loans for the purchase of an existing property - but it gets better.
"People living in villages should wait just a little bit longer," said Prime Minister Viktor Orbán in February. "Within a few weeks, we would like to announce a scheme specifically customised to their needs. This means that today young married couples agreeing to have two children are eligible for grants worth 22 million forints ($75,000 US) for starting their lives and creating their first homes, while families agreeing to have three children are eligible for grants worth 35 million forints ($120,000 US)," said Orbán in his February announcement.
Hungary will also help out with mortgages - picking up the tab on roughly $13,500 US after the couple's third child, with an additional $3,500 US of relief for each further child.
Moreover, women who have given birth to and raised four children will pay no income taxes for the rest of their lives, while grandparents who are still working are entitled to take leave to help take care of their new grandchildren.
There's even a $9,000 subsidy for the purchase of a seven-passenger vehicle. "If you’ve ever tried to fit three children with car seats and everything else you need for children and probably the dog too in a car, you know how hard it is," said Hungary's minister of state for family, youth and international affairs, Katalin Novák. "Cars in Europe also tend to be smaller than American cars"
As The Federalist's Emma Elliott Freire notes, "An unusual feature of the subsidies is that they go into effect while a child is still in the womb. Parents can claim the relevant subsidy for their baby as soon as an expectant mother reaches her second trimester of pregnancy."
"This is a philosophical aspect for us. We believe life begins at conception. We value unborn children, not only born children," according to Novák, who added: "Hungarian young people are very family friendly. They want to get married and have at least two children. If that’s a fact, then we have to help them."
Meanwhile, it looks like Orbán's existing measures to boost fertility have been working since he took office.
She also argues the government’s policies are already proving successful. “Fertility has increased by more than 20 percent since 2010 [when Orbán took office]. It hit an all-time low of 1.25 in 2010 and now it is at 1.49,” she says. This still falls far short of the fertility replacement rate of 2.1, but Novák believes all signs point in the right direction for the long term, particularly the marriage rate.
“Between 2002 and 2010, under the Socialist government, the current opposition party, marriages decreased by 23 percent. Since 2010, marriages have increased by 43 percent,” says Novák. She believes if marriage rates go up, more children will inevitably follow. Novák also points out that since 2010, divorces have decreased by 29 percent and abortion in Hungary has fallen to an all-time low. -The Federalist
The catch?
In order to receive the benefits, women must remain married and employed.
"We link family support to work. You have to take part in the labor market. Unemployment is at 3.4 percent. We struggle more with a lack of labor force," according to Novák.
"We don’t want to change people. We want to make it possible for them to raise a family if they wish to," she added. "I have three children with my husband. I know that there comes a moment when you sit down and decide if you want to have another child. You discuss pros and cons. We want to put more arguments in the pros column. It’s up to you, but we want to make it easier to have a child or another child."
https: //www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-27/hungary-offering-35000-lifetime-tax-exemption-having-lots-children
https: //archive.fo/TC14t
in related news, (((Lajos Bokros))) , the genocidal pro-migrant MP of Hungary, reportedly on suicide watch.
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 00:32:29 feaadc No. 13550050
>>13546853
that website was a weird mix of race realism and PUA
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 00:33:05 e5f891 No. 13550053
>>13550013
Glorious
I must find a Hungarian for marriage. I've been to Budapest and I would love to raise my future children in a pro-Christian country.
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 00:39:25 82168d No. 13550076
>>13545051
>Historically first they destroy your hamlets and drive you from the countryside into a village, from villages into towns, from towns into cities, from cities into regions and regions into countries and cui bono? Certainly not you
>They did this by violence economic or otherwise, depriving areas of basic services and disinvesting so teh land and it’s resources would fall into and remain in the hands of the rich elite, the oligarch
>Here’s your box! Go live in it and consume goyim!
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 00:40:06 82168d No. 13550082
>>13546853
>Why do I have a feeling that image came from Chateau Heartiste before he got shoah'd?
Your autism is supreme
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 00:42:12 82168d No. 13550092
>>13550050
>PUA
More human sexual dynamics & thots realism. He wrote about how having a high notch count wasn't good for anybody, just that it was worse for women.
The game he wrote about was for properly administering your second most valuable property, your woman (first is kids).
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 00:42:51 82168d No. 13550096
>>13543918
>I keep thinking it's a meme, but it just keeps happening…
…Which is precisely what threw me over the edge.
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 00:43:26 84c436 No. 13550100
>>13543335
Or you could just take women's rights away and not worry about paying them…
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 00:44:10 5241cc No. 13550109
>>13544859
Yes, of course, Hungary welcomes young university educated expats from other EU countries.
Learning Hungarian is not necessary. You can use English or your language if you work at the Hungarian office of one of your companies. For example, if you are German, you can work at a German company in Budapest.
You can search jobs at Profession.hu or jobinfo.hu or apply to big firms directly. pwC, Morgan Stanley, McKinsey, White & Case law firm, Erste Bank, RTL Hungary television, engineering and software companies. Put a random Hungarian address on your CV, and they will invite you for an interview.
Or you can start your own business, start up costs are low in Hungary, and there are a lot of highly skilled potential employees or contract workers.
Or you can work as a foreign language teacher. Language schools would hire you within 3 days. Search for language schools in Hungary online and submit your CV.
Hungary is literally in the centre of Europe, it's a good location for any business.
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 00:44:47 82168d No. 13550111
>>13546340
>You have no argument against what he is saying beyond lalalalala. And I think the article in the OP is a great idea because who cares if some harridans dip into the pot. They could, can and so already.
>asserts something without facts
>immediately demands facts to contradict hirz assertion
Found the kike.
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 00:49:00 82168d No. 13550134
>>13547370
>JEWISH PLAN TO REWARD GYPSIES
Woman has to work and remain married Moishe.
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 00:53:36 82168d No. 13550174
>>13550109
Glad to see Hungary's Chamber of Commerce frequents /pol/
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 00:59:08 5241cc No. 13550212
>>13550174
I am not part of the Hungarian Chamber of Commerce, but I am an advisor to the Hubgarian government and Viktor Orban.
Most of the pro-family incentives were my ideas.
But I think we should take in more white Christian expats from other EU countries. It's a win-win for everyone.
Maybe we will create a programme for that as well.
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 01:03:07 5088dc No. 13550243
>>13544506
Its called an investment by the state in future generations and not investment by the state in the future of israel you fucking kike
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 01:09:28 e5f891 No. 13550281
>>13550174
The more I read into Hungary, the more and more attractive it gets to move there and raise a family. I need to start learning Hungarian.
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 01:10:16 5241cc No. 13550285
>>13546117
Thank you.
Yes, this is why it comes in the form of tax exemptions. This policy package is aimed at middle class families.
When it comes to fertility and pro-natalist policies, quality matters more than quantity. More high quality middle class kids are better for the society and economy in the long run. Population growth from within should focus on quality.
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 01:16:13 5241cc No. 13550315
>>13550281
You don't have to learn Hungarian.
Basic English is enough to get by. There are white expats working at big companies in Hungary, we just talk to them in English.
Hungarians are racist, but they love white expats.
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 01:19:08 e5f891 No. 13550329
>>13550315
>Hungarians are racist, but they love white expats.
Music to my ears.
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 01:57:24 ffe35c No. 13550558
>>13550212
As if christians will not inevitably cuck out
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 02:52:08 1666ac No. 13550846
>>13545165
>>13545165
Absolutely right. I'm hoping like you are that these policies won't just make gypsies and bottom of the barrel people spawn out a load of untermenschen.
However, it is still better than most other nations'policies that directly incentivisr the non productive non white population to breed
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 03:17:35 bde2dd No. 13550899
>>13546001
>trusting women to act rationally
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 04:04:05 8180d1 No. 13550987
>>13543341
>Honestly, people have been saying that so many countries are "depopulating" but fuck, I have yet to see any of them actually disappear.
The real threat posed by "depopulation" is to the (((international financiers))) who own our countries. The people were always going to be fine.
Reminder that the decades following the Black Death were actually really fucking good for the survivors. Labour was in such high demand that a peasant no longer had to put up with an abusive lord, not to mention that land was available cheaply. They were good times for the common man. The truth is that in todays world the aftermath of a similar event would be no different, and that's what they fear.
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 04:06:07 03417f No. 13550992
>>13544973
You fell for the old jewish trick of conflating countries with nations.
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 04:29:13 87e7d8 No. 13551023
>>13550212
have you considered suggesting that Viktor Orban be crowned and reestablish the monarchy? we kind of need to get back to that sort of leadership style
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 04:54:05 4cf7cc No. 13551070
>>13543335
and what are the benefits for the wage slave…I mean man?
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 05:02:56 aacc36 No. 13551079
>>13544973
>a group of people can't have their own land, create a government around it, call it a state, and be a nation of one unified group
Found the kike.
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 05:40:53 224462 No. 13551128
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 05:42:06 c23ef5 No. 13551129
Hungary will be hit with the Trump curse, screencap this!
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 09:32:03 5241cc No. 13551434
>>13551023
It's already centralised.
Unlike in other countries, the Hungarian government isn't slowed down by enemy civil servants, enemy media, internal factions etc.
If anything happens, the Hungarian government can respond within half an hour. You won't see this elsewhere.
The governing party, Fidesz, is full of experienced politicians. It's an organised team. They are willing to work for 100 hours per week, and visit 10 different countries for negotiations within 5 days if necessary.
It's already centralised and managed directly by Viktor Orban.
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Anonymous 07/31/19 (Wed) 09:39:38 c28429 No. 13551447
>>13543335
Orban is a jew and it's probably a calculated move, when people have nothing to lose they name the problem. If people have debt and young children to feed they are a lot more controllable, less likely to fight against immigration.
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Anonymous 08/01/19 (Thu) 01:20:29 82168d No. 13553569
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Anonymous 08/01/19 (Thu) 01:25:05 d28612 No. 13553607
>>13551447
Can confirm that nationalist-types of Hungarian peoples say that Orban is all complacency tactics like how Poland does it. Nationalist base =/= nervously laughing and smiling government throwing a bone and masquerading. It's not blackpill, every nation needs a great culling for change I wager.
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Anonymous 08/01/19 (Thu) 11:04:00 3fe2d3 No. 13554903
>>13543344
Does anyone have a link to the source? I mean the precise newspaper article or video interview or whatever where he said this.
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Anonymous 08/02/19 (Fri) 05:57:15 660eea No. 13557285
>>13545165
>Mfw most polices don't distinguish productive citizens from social parasites and thieves
This one does, it's probably why they mandate that the woman has to have a job and keep working.
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Anonymous 08/02/19 (Fri) 11:29:46 f119c4 No. 13557807
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Anonymous 08/02/19 (Fri) 12:12:35 660eea No. 13557856
>>13545871
If the EU does something that dumb as a result of Brexit, then they can look forward to Hexit next.
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Anonymous 08/02/19 (Fri) 12:46:34 bd4d4c No. 13557902
OOOOOOYYYYYYY VVEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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Anonymous 08/02/19 (Fri) 13:30:18 0b6b8f No. 13557977
>>13543335
Its like annudah shoah in here
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Anonymous 08/02/19 (Fri) 14:05:43 dea1b7 No. 13558079
>>13551434
When is your boss going to apologize to Richard Spencer for throwing him in jail?
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Anonymous 08/02/19 (Fri) 20:23:18 a29fa0 No. 13559254
>>13550212
If you really are an advisor for Mr. Orban, then why you didn't advise on punishment-reward base policy? Make it 3 children for every family to be a mandatory policy. If you have more children, the family need to be given a reward. If you don't have 3 children from the first 5 years of marriage, then the family need to get punishment like fine. it could be in the form of tax until they have 3 babies all of the fine money will be returned.
2.1 fertility rate for 2030 if it's only from reward base system,it wouldn't work AT ALL. Especially if you only rewarding one partner. You should also giving reward to the male partner too. And if you can, double the reward for the family with more than 5 (or 6 children) getting free healtcare until they are 18 and tuition free untill high school for all their children. I can guarantee you could achieve 2.1 fertility rate even before 2030 if you enact these (punishment-reward base) policy.
You don't believe it? Try it for yourself.
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Anonymous 08/03/19 (Sat) 01:13:21 1a62c3 No. 13559759
What about people with Hungarian lineage. I'm 3rd generation Hungarian and my grandfather fought against the Soviets in the 1956 Revolution. I know they grant citizenship to anyone that can prove lineage and speaks Hungarian, which I do not, but I already speak Chinese and Japanese, so learning it couldn't be too hard. Any Hungarian anons out there have an idea?
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Anonymous 08/03/19 (Sat) 05:51:20 3c8056 No. 13560125
>>13543341
>depopulation
When resources are scarce, white people and other living things in a healthy ecosystem tend to have less kids so they live in harmony with the environment.
Having many kids above the resource-availability means your kids having rough times and not being able to feed them properly.
Healthy, normal living creatures stabilize population around an equilibrium.
A true complete depopulation of any country you name is almost practically impossible. It shoudl go beyond 4000 habitants or so. It's ridiculous.
It's a boogiemen created to:
1- invent a problem that largely doesn't exist, as having less kids is reasonable to give each one of them plenty of resources
2- justify population replacement.
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Anonymous 08/03/19 (Sat) 05:54:00 3c8056 No. 13560127
>>13543349
>SOONER, NOT MORE. I can predict what's going to happen:
Much better than later.
It's healthier and promotes a healthy family.
Later = probability of genetic defects, probability of divorce.
Also, a human female can produce up to 70 children.
The sooner they begin, the better.
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Anonymous 08/03/19 (Sat) 06:12:15 da41b4 No. 13560140
>>13543349
women who have children earlier, produce healthier children, having a kid with a woman in her mid 30s is about as bad as having a kid with your sister in terms of likelihood of impairments
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Anonymous 08/03/19 (Sat) 06:18:44 4f5970 No. 13560144
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Anonymous 08/03/19 (Sat) 07:27:57 f51bc6 No. 13560203
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Anonymous 08/03/19 (Sat) 08:27:48 a2e78a No. 13560276
Thanks for the laughs my friends!
>>13543335
>>13544494
>>13557902
>>13557977
i love how stupid this anime character looks
>>13543344
and the actor in the live action film is such a good pick
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Anonymous 08/03/19 (Sat) 09:09:17 270178 No. 13560346
>>13543918
>I keep thinking it's a meme, but it just keeps happening…
Welcome to the hurtbox, nigger faggot.
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Anonymous 08/03/19 (Sat) 09:33:35 2aa624 No. 13560396
STILL NO ANSWER AS TO WHO THIS APPLIES TO
Ethnic Hungarians, (((citizens))) or any old nigger.
The first is the only acceptable option, the second will see the gypsies, the (more than you realize) niggers and mudapes reproduce even more than they already do and it will only see more of them move there "legally" and if the third option, well that gypsy Orban has done a Trump, fooling everyone into feeling mirth at their own death.
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Anonymous 08/03/19 (Sat) 14:31:24 98485c No. 13560826
>>13560396
only whites pay taxes, so it generlaly only applies to them
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Anonymous 08/03/19 (Sat) 16:29:18 e34823 No. 13561085
>>13560127
>Also, a human female can produce up to 70 children.
Let's assume a woman is an early bloomer and begins puberty at age 8 and is impregnated on her eighth birthday. Let's assume she's special and remains fertile until she is 55. That's 47 years or 564 months of fertility. Let's assume she's pregnant with another child as soon as the pregnancy ends. That's a total of 63 pregnancies.
From where did you pull those numbers from? Without it already being in your family, twins, triplets and beyond are extremely rare.
Sage because I've gone off-topic.
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