/pol/ - Politically Incorrect

>>13517584

This pdf makes some fairly grand claims in it, how long may I ask has it been since you created/saved it? It directly contradicts a couple things I read in the previous thread like,

>Of course it's somewhat of a disappointment that there's no clear connection between our cherished black sun symbol and any kind of ancient tradition, it does free us to create our own meaning.

However, since it was debunking a lot of the theory behind the black sun (which I heartily enjoyed, it can be tedious to fact check every little thing you find on the net) this was somewhat understandable.

For any interested anons I found this a good read, and does a fair service better job of a Wikipedia entry then (((they))) provide us.

<should also note that it references wikipedia itself rather then an archive, so the beginning part of the pdf mentions a part of the wiki that no longer exists , archive!

>The traditional references to this concept, which are all indirect, involve the idea that the microcostm (man) is a reflection of the macrocosm (the world), and thus the three parts of man (body, soul, spirit)

are also found in the celestial order, creating three suns (material sun, soul sun and spiritual sun). Thereare also mentions that the hidden sun, the midnight sun, is the source of all wisdom.

Had not read this pertaining to the black sun before, but have read Manly Hall and related so new about this alchemical tradition. Makes perfect sense that the black sun came about this way, including the hermetic references in the last thread.

First I have heard of there being not just 2 but a third sun.

>>13517633

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD7OlvYjBTI

You are pretty close anon. Hermeticist anon weighing in here - you can interpret the Black Sun as the Schwartze Sonne coupled with the number 12.

The Schwartze sonne itself is the basis of the Swastika, also, which itself symbolizes permanent victory, as opposed to its reversed form, the Manji, which symbolizes the eastern esoteric path and the breaking down of all things. You could see the Schwartze Sonne as postive/masculine and the Manji as negative/feminine. The number 12 symbolizes the presence of angels and divine inspiration, the impetus to take action. It's kind of like the Spiral power from Gurren Lagann (if you're a weeb and you know what that is), basically the ever-present symbol of the overcoming force which cannot disappear, the thing we all wish would happen, which is someone taking action in accordance with truth. It is the thing Jews fear most.

Here's a music video I like that uses the Schwartze Sonne and Pa kua -(Eastern symbol of the eightfold path) as counterparts to each other. Try watching the video with that symbology in your mind.

>>13517809

As some other anons have said the Black Sun is also like the underlying truth, the underlying universal law of the universe symbolized by the spiral of galaxies. It is something that cannot be erased, it will always exist because it is inherent in the very fabric of existence. It is the symbol of Natural Law as well.

Some of the other threads about deepfakes scare me a lot, because Jews are rubbing their hands and are going to use those to try to seal it away. Though it will never stop existing, it can be made more difficult to discover, especially when the Jews start revising history more dramatically erasing people and events with deepfakes. A lot of this has already happened, revising the Inquisition for instance, but it'll get worse as deepfakes make it much harder to find the truth and stumble upon the black sun

Gamble always makes me tear up a bit. It's a song about the struggle between trying to live a good life and follow the pursuits symbolized on the pa-kua, ie a good career, having kids, making money, winning approval from others etc, and the ever-present desire to just drop everything and go towards something real. The singer describes feeling as if she's looking on like a tamed cat, until that one moment. she encounters a person who she thinks can change everything, and she has to ask herself if she's willing to risk everything, saying she knows what the easy answer to all of it is, but…

It's a song I really like. I hope you like it, too.

itt: faggots

>>13517857

itt: caring about things is fucking gay, i have a salary and my life is GREAT, i need to shit on others to feel like i made the right choice

>>13517862

>my life is great because i make money

gg faggot let me praise you

>>13517953

Almost everything you've said is spot on. I would like to highlight that eclipses are likely where the solar crown of Helios originated from, which were synonymous with royalty.

I don't think they just hate the moon, because of the attributions of night man's original fear and main cause of death, that an eclipse represents a catharsis, when the rule of evil is so stark and abject that it becomes impossible to ignore what is right and wrong, thus the crown shows itself. I would say if anything, they hate the sun the most, but it depends what roles you want to cast people as, you get what I'm saying.

>>13517953

><there are over 5,555+ placental mammals found on earth, each having their own menstrual cycle. yet out of all 5,555+ placental mammals, only one matches the moons cycle, a human woman.

Fuck you're right.

>>13517572

Black hole sons have come to wash away the pain

>>13517953

>They call me MoonMan but can't you see

>MoonWoman is very special to me

>No spics or nogs and no kikes too

>Just lunar ouroborous the whole night through

Sonnenrad just means sun wheel. It's a gold circle with a blue lightning bolts. That's what Himmler originally commissioned for Wewelsburg Castle, it just wasn't completed that way.

Nobody knows where the term black sun came from, it's probably just made up BS. The term is obviously nonsensical. Maybe stop worry about things that don't make sense.

>>13518082

Nice try, yid. We're taking our Heritage, History, Culture, and Religion back. You can't stop it.

And oh, it matters, or you wouldn't be here being a fucking kike.

You're going to die.

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Zierscheibe

>Zierscheibe (German for "ornamental disk") in archaeology is the term for a kind of metal jewellery dating to the European Iron Age. They are found in women's graves and are thought to have been worn as pendants attached to the tunica, or as part of a belt pouch.

>Early examples date to the Late Bronze Age (ca. 800 BC). They develop into characteristic designs notably attested from Alamannic graves from the migration period.

>>13518085

Okay nigger so you're going to reclaim our culture by adhering to a goofy religion called Esoteric Hitlerism concocted by some spic after WW2?

Newsflash: Hitler had the chance to kill all the Jews he had in the camps and he didn't do it. Why worship a man who lost a war against the kikes?

BTW Wewelsburg's Sonnenrad is dark green, not black, so again, "black sun" is a term of unknown origin.

>>13518093

>>13518093

>Why worship a man who lost a war against the kikes?

just because he stumbled on the correct knowledge and *lost* doesnt mean we have to bury his name. in fact by burying his name we also bury the knowledge he stumbled upon, or at least we make it so this knowledge can only be associated with hitler, and not eternal knowledge that comes before hitler and every other man too

>>13517572

I remember there's a part of the Eddas that mentions the "suns rays going black" or something along those lines. However, I believe the recovery of our knowledge of the black sun comes from Sufism.

>>13518090

I remember reading that women played an important religious role in Europe way back in the past.

>>13518093

You might be more effective in expressing your ideas if you present them in a way that doesn't make everyone instinctively dislike you. It's also rather rude to call a blonde-haired, blue-eyed White man a "spic" just because of the country he was born in. What few Aryans who live in those countries will have no interest in National Socialism if they're constantly having their identity challenged like that.

>>13517857

ITT: butthurt goon

Masons always hate competition.

>>13518093

You have a lot of homework to do before coming in here and embarrassing yourself with such condescending and absolute statements when it's obvious you have no fucking clue what you're talking about..

>"black sun" is a term of unknown origin.

Unknown to you, nigger. How awkward for you.

>report queue full

Like you planned it, eh moshe?

>>13518082

I read on (((wikipedia))) that it's called "black sun" because of the illumination of the room in the Wewelsburg Castl, that hitting the tiles on the floor makes it look black.

>>13518093

Why do people admire pyyrhus?

He lost.

And I can name a couple of great man that lost.

>killed the jews

Because hitler was soft thinking kikes will develop there own identity the same can be said about tje times europeans when they had multitude of chances to kill off the kikes.

Sometimes great men and good guys can lose you have to accept it hitler fought an entire world which costed an empire 4 trillion dollars and millions of men into the meat grinder just to put a nation smaller than texas down that is a big feat.

Men like pierce and rockwell and dudley pelly and yung or jung also failed does that mean we have to spit on there faces?

Of course not learning the mistakes from great men is also vital.

That is like spitting on gadaffi for failing libya

>>13518093

Its been adapted as a "main symbol" of group I heavily identify with, the 14. I see it posted on this board multiple times a day, so I see no problem in identifying and understanding why this symbol, which aside from the swastika, is basically "symbolic" of the Aryan people. Just because Hitler and crew added their own touch to it, doesn't mean we can't do the same! Hence my desire to fully understand "our" knowledge on it before finishing my design on a "new" one for use…especially because the material I'm contemplating will turn a dollar of steel medallion into a 2,000 shekel one.

>>13518798

here here, I agree completely, I get tired of people acting like Hitler could have just ordered the death of jews in the camps. Whether his soldiers would of performed the order is debatable (he was building a moral empire afterall) but also as bad as Germany got it after ww2 just imagine what International Judaism could have done to our people if he capped them before the send off? We might have been completely genocided and never had this chance to reclaim our birthright. Qadafi strikes hard on me too, his green book is an excellent read and you can tell her cared deeply about his people. Libya got what its people allowed tho, from debate threads on it I saw average Libyan complain that he wasn't "doing enough" aka "more gibs" not realizing with his policies they already had a better life and treatment then 99.9% of the world, even including the west! Schadenfreude in a nutshell but now just pity, because we are eerily facing the same fate.

Can someone archive and link the (archived) old thread? My mind was scattered lately with mundane things so I couldn't reply before it reached the post limit.

<3aed38

Can you post more about sacred geometry, magic mountain of Enlil and equations? First pic in your last post looks absolutely beautiful, one can recognize so many shapes in it. Such as Templar cross, seal of Venus, even the straight # symbol. Which got me thinking about those posts that you made about "matrix of hate" in another thread a while ago, that seemed like something which you completely made up using the conspiracy narrative matrice, but now my pattern seeking mind is not entirely content with that resolution, especially considering that at certain level, synchronicities can actually affect events backwards in time. Of course, this by no means implies that the reality as we know it is relative (which is a lie popularized by Jews like Einstein), but that our individual position within the quantum superimposition of possibilities might be more flexible than we have originally thought. This was perhaps the hidden victory behind Hitler's struggle against all odds, he set up the precedent. Now the heroic struggle of his and his comrades will echo throughout the eternity, becoming an eternal recurrence, eventually spiraling out (centrifugally), converging at total victory. However, the truth is that the events which unfolded in WW2 were only a part of a much greater spiral, and Hitler was aware of that.

Regarding your post about external force, don't tell me you are still advocating for an entirely inner, subjective experience? What we are trying to do is to apply the right formula for transforming the inner force into the external force and than using that external force to purge the unclean and restore the golden age of racial and individual perfection while attaining immortality and godlike powers. Naturally, this is the last thing that the gatekeepers would want, which explains so much shilling for the "inner journey" and general universalism/dissolution/oneness textbook faggotry. But you are not falling for that, aren't you my old pal? :>) We are not going to withdraw to our monads, we are going to crash the universe of their false god with no survivors, which would lead to only those possessing the golden cord surviving the total annihilation and translucence, while all the NPC's , kikes and space niggers of all forms suffer the absolute horror of dissolution, compared to which even the most painful and gruesome physical deaths seem laughable. In the meantime, we will watch and laugh from the other side, from that indestructible realm. Or, we could actually fix the world as we were originally supposed to do, if only someone asks us nicely.

>>13518775

>So you believe in the tradition that says the sun is our "1st sun" and the moon our "2nd" and when they eclipse that creates our "3rd"?

no im saying back in the day when the moon passed in front of the sun since it doesnt look like the moon, it looks like a black sun, even at the beginning of the eclipse, they didnt realize it was the moon and said it was a 3rd thing, the black sun

<b3b6b0 , Vajra-bro

Kamerad, there are some good animes out there, and while you won't learn anything too profound from them, they are good for giving you the proper mindset. For example, overcoming obstacles and becoming more powerful in the process, and more importantly, overcoming yourself. They also often incorporate the hero's journey plot development. Not to mention a bunch of white people engaging in esoteric Shintoism lel. There are also more philosophical ones like Lain. If you have time, you can watch Meguca (try to get over the initial cringe), it's touching on some of the subjects that we are discussing here, but don't let that distract you from more important pursuits. Did you find some cool Tibetan books yet? Regarding music, metal works for me quite well, but you can also try trance or anything else that's intense and follows a certain frequency pattern/oscillation. Binaural beats stop having any utility once you train your brain to sync manually. Interesting experiment with listening muzak, but be careful with this as it can damage your resonant body if done for longer or too often. Think of it as hurting yourself so your body releases adrenaline, which will give you a boost, but at the cost of your overall health long term. At least if you think of it as a source of power. I also expose myself to kike poz from time to time, but this process is more akin to immunization. In that sense your approach is good, but you need to define it's purpose differently. As for coiled serpent, you need to activate and actually be able to experience it's transition centers (modes of consciousness) before rising it, otherwise you will short-circuit. It's not just a matter of mere visualization and focus, but acquiring new "senses" and centers of consciousness. You must become aware of them as you are aware of smell and taste and your physical brain will develop corresponding neural pathways, they would just be wired inwardly rather than outwardly through the nervous system towards the physical senses.

I see some excess divergence in your ideas, you are creating noise by trying to combine too many of them without developing each fully. Try focusing on few at the time (converge), then expand them with new ones (diverge), then weave them into the main hyper-thread, et cetera. Or try making a thought process like a fugue. That mantra is truly powerful, and I'm quite amazed how some city names can have much deeper meaning, either due to their historical IE roots, or, by being one of those coincidences filled with meaning. Metatron is a "neutral god" (principle) that needs to be released from control of you know (((who)))

On an unrelated note, the Mjolnir seems to have a similar role as Sharur, being associated with lightning and smashing mountains.

>>13519561

Looks familiar tbh.

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(proposed_Pacific_state)

Every galaxy has a black hole in the centre, a black sun, that all the stars in the galaxy orbit. There is a huge galaxy in the centre of the universe and the massive black hole at the centre of that galaxy is the Black Sun. All the other galaxies in the universe orbit this galaxy.

>>13520487

No evidence

>>13521173

the long version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E

my tl;dr version: The Hermetic Principles and the Stoic notion of an ever-present and ubiquitous truth is a concept that is not often happened upon, but heavily suppressed on /pol/. There are even "debunk" infographics made by kikes to discredit discussion of it. Natural Law encompasses things like cause and effect, the need for like to reproduce with like to remain healthy, and is basically the fundamental basis for common sense that subversive Jewish doctrine wants to throw out the window.

Here are David Lane's 88 Precepts, which detail that societies must be grounded upon absolute truths or they are doomed to fail.

https://archive.org/stream/88Precepts_937/88Precepts_djvu.txt

>>13520869

It’s widely accepted that at enormous scales, the matter and energy distribution in the universe is strikingly uniform. This conflicts with your super-orbital model.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antihydrogen

<forgot the link to antihydrogen wiki

>>13517953

>the moons orbit is not elliptical.

The orbit of the Moon is distinctly elliptical with an average eccentricity of 0.055.

>the moon is tidally locked to the earth, but the earth is NOT tidally locked to the moon

The same fate that affects every single large moon orbiting a planet.

>there are over 5,555+ placental mammals found on earth, each having their own menstrual cycle. yet out of all 5,555+ placental mammals, only one matches the moons cycle, a human woman.

The moon cycle is 29.5 days

The human menstrual cycle varies from 21 to 35 days.

So you just have one cool coincidence that the moon is just as big as the sun from our perspective. Cool.

<Torposter

In reference to the previous thread, how did I fall right back into the trap of Buddhism? How did you come to such conclusion?

>Aren't we supposed to know if Hitler was there to generate a whole cycle of "fishing" for some specific people to finally defeat Jews

That's kind of the point. We are the final battalion beyond time and space. The precedent has been set for our ultimate Victory. If not in this cycle, then in the next one. We shall meet again and do what is our Duty, regardless of circumstances.

>Certain symbols simply speak to your soul. Also consider your previous life

Some of us arrived at this point from quite unusual backgrounds, having similar "development paths", often being triggered on the most subconscious level by early exposure to certain symbols (which is the very reason why kikes have banned or corrupted many of them). The experiment was a success, plus it allowed some of us to dodge the traps that our enemies have sprang for the more "typical" physical incarnations of our kind. Which is what they are trying to prevent now with globalization and (((harmonization))). Once your soul achieves a certain state, you will strive towards it in every next life unless you fully degenerate, stray away from the path and get devoured by the enemy. Unfortunately many have been, most in fact, but that's normal, this dark age can only be overcome by the most powerful and most devoted of souls. That's what the "fishing" is for, to gather the Knights lost in the great sea by emitting certain memes and seeing who they resonate with the most.

>Why so much time spent on Kali Yuga talks?

Because of certain universal processes that make times worse as they progress. There are certain mathematical peculiarities behind this, at least on this "side" of the mirror. Why do you think that kikes, agents of entropy on earth, like the word progressivism (and the anti-values contained in it) so much? Because it will lead them closer to dissolution into their robotic god, their "singularity". This universe is slowly heading towards it's heat death, absolute stasis, gradually making less and less energy available. On a microcosmic scale, you have diminishing resources on earth and the ever growing number of subhumans, coupled with increasing (((integration))), making it harder and harder for those who need their volk (whites) and living space to thrive and reach their full potential, which includes ascendancy and freedom from the corrupt entanglement, ultimately leading to physical transformation as well. But just like you have great cycles, you also have smaller ones, meaning that we have witnessed peaks of "golden age" even in Kali Yuga, but they were just a dim memory of the greater golden cycle, each smaller cycle being shorter and less potent as Kali Yuga advances. NS Germany was an example of such a greatly diminished, but still very potent mini-cycle. We are now, however, reaching a threshold to the age of lead, from which there is no return for the most and where there are no more "purer" mini-cycles. Our ideas of constant progress towards betterment come from our "blood memory" and are related to that anti-universe where time goes backwards, and negative entropy, or anti-entropy affects all instead. Which was the force compelling us (whites, Aryans) to build and invent great things in spite of the involution, leading to people foolishly assuming that first our physical evolution, then our scientific discoveries are somehow a proof of the universe itself progressing towards ascendancy and higher states of evolution, which is a Jewish deception! While this impulse is somewhat present in all life (and is the very fuel that their robotic god feasts on with sadistic delight), it can only be fully harnessed by the Aryans. In fact, we were keeping the lesser races from devolving fully into animals, or something even more depraved.

Saturn is the black sun. The Sun is all powerful but one definition of Saturn is the boundary of what the sun touches. If you know astrology you can meditate on the fact that the home sign and sign of exaltation of these planets are polar opposite each other, meaning the sun and Saturn have polar opposite personalities. Aryans are ruled by the Sun and Jews by Saturn, but Aryans must still master the Saturn energy in their own life's. Meditate on the black sun symbol and you will find it is a Saturn energy

The Swastika is a solar symbol, since the will or masculine energy builds things up but the reverse symbol represents the Moon and the downward but pleasurable path of decay, or feminine energy.

>>13517572

Here’s the archive of the Evola Mystery of the Grail thread you speak of. Something which must always go in the OP of sequel breads. Also, linking posts to old threads which will be pruned is poor form and new faggotry.

http://archive.fo/XRraq

Here is the link to the video I embedded in the original thread you refer to.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W9XLr3lxeH8&list=LL2W9FE6DsldgkOJdKUStWdg&index=4&t=0s

The 9 spoked sunwheel is likely symbolic of Wotanaz’s 9 days on the Yagdrasil tree imo. 9, along with 3 and multiples there of, are the most recurrent and powerful numbers in all ancient myths, not just Indo-European ones. It is likely tied to Tesla’s enigmatic quote about the power of 3,6,9. Keep an eye out for 18, 24, 36, 72, 108, and 432.

>>13518042

>Black hole sons have come to wash away the pain

The lyric is actually rain, or rather reign of the yids.

>>13519053

>that our individual position within the quantum superimposition of possibilities might be more flexible than we have originally thought. This was perhaps the hidden victory behind Hitler's struggle against all odds, he set up the precedent. Now the heroic struggle of his and his comrades will echo throughout the eternity, becoming an eternal recurrence, eventually spiraling out (centrifugally), converging at total victory. However, the truth is that the events which unfolded in WW2 were only a part of a much greater spiral, and Hitler was aware of that.

This.

>>13519362

Thanks for this, I’ll lay off the shit tunes for a while and give the rest of your post some better reflection tomorrow when I’m rested. I definitely sense what your talking about regarding cumulative damage by bad freqs too often. I found two books, but haven’t had much time to get into them yet tbh. Just reading this thread rev’ed up my adamantine vimana a bit.

>the Mjolnir seems to have a similar role as Sharur, being associated with lightning and smashing mountains.

Here’s a good article about the associated IE celestial weapons.

https://aryaakasha.wordpress.com/2019/07/19/thunderstruck-a-brief-comparative-of-the-weapons-of-the-striking-son-of-the-sky-father/

>>13520991

>Here's an archive of previous thread.

I’m glad you’re back, archive.org has shoah’d things from time to time. The superiority of archive.fo has been beaten into me by more savvy oldfags. I’m too tiered to analyze your post atm, I’ll come back to it tomorrow.

>>13521173

>I like the order aspect of your image, and it only has 8 spokes (if im counting correctly), do you know why?

I do. Same reason Synagogues, Cathar and Templar temples, and mma fights are in octagons. To harness the primordial forces of the Egyptian Ogdoad or the eight trigrams of the IChing for metaphysical purposes. The Chinese IChing was likely adopted from Indo-Europeans, there is a Vedic god who’s name escapes me(Kala-something) that personifies the 8 trigrams and 64 hexagrams.

>>13521593

>It is a really big coincidence that the moon is the exact size at the exact place to fully match the sun at our perspective

Phi ratio at the largest scale we can observe every 19 years lad.

>>13522329

8/8 post

>>13521593

>Would this anti-sun be able to interact with the physical plain?

Yes, but it has nothing to do with subatomic particles made up by kikes to force math equations to work. Embed related was RCA’s top solar radio researcher who, like Tesla, has had all his work stolen and made into a pauper.

>>13521520

>I've honestly never heard the concept of a

>☆✬✭✮✯★⍣🅑🅛🅐🅒🅚 🅢🅤🅝⍣★✯✮✭✬☆

>theoretical jew math larping as science

>>>/cancer/

>>13520060

The xx is a fertility rune. Inguz.

Reposting the Vajra mantra for newfags too lazy to read the archive.

>inhale

>Aummm Vaaaajjj raaaahhhh satttt vahhh

<exhale

<Huuuuuuuuuummmmmm

>Which is Sanskrit for, I am Vajrasattva, the second Buddha who developed his impenetrable body of red light. Miguel Serrano also asserted that ‘Hum’ is the mantra to reawaken Her and begin the initiatory path. The second most effective is to replace the word Vajrasattva with our surnames pronounced backwards. This mantra was a hypothesis I had when I began digging into the etymology of my names and the individual phonemes to better know myself. They all seem like self fulfilling prophecies of who I am becoming and I cannot recommend this enough to all Pilgrims. Our surnames end with ‘son’ which is also sun. We are Sonnenmench, walking at dawn, backwards, on the path of eternal return; son backwards is NOS. We both sense that this may surpass the former mantra in potency the closer to Nostalgia we become. Nos is also short for nosotros, Spanish for we. The divine we of Him/Her and Her/Him. Nosotros has the runic suffix OS, the Indo-European linguistic designation for deities, such as Belenos, Osiris, and Cernunnos.

One could also substitute Vajrasattvah with Indra, Kalki or which ever God you wish to

emulate for a specific purpose.

>>13522680

The Germanic brooches relate to numerous cycles, they take Ursa Major as the first principle of the cyclic, thus it can relate to the 4 quarters of the year or the 12 months or 12 hours of darkness, the cyclic pattern of the pentagonal Earth/Venus relationship, the number 7 in lunar/weekly periodics or the Mercurial 9.

Also the Vienna Landig group adopted the Black Sun symbol in terms of the hidden light, the Sun within the underworld in terms of an unseen secretive organization, the Sig-Sig's had adopted it in terms of internal security.

The Black Sun then is simply that which you cannot see, an internalized force, the light in the darkness, correlating to the Sun at Celestial North.

There was a tradition that in the absence of the Sun then Saturn ruled, but that is the opposite principle, the absence of light and the Triumph of the Joo.

>>13521173

>it only has 8 spokes (if im counting correctly), do you know why?

Also, to add to this, 8 notes to an OCTave, 88 keys on a traditional piano. It is venerated by the Pythagoreans for being the first cubed number(2^3). 8 inches is a standard size for masonry units dating back to at least Hammurabi.

9 cuz the o9a (order of 9 angles) the 9fold path?

>>13517953

>the sun is the man, the moon is the woman, and the earth is the child.

I’m not sure what you are basing this on, but at least in relation to PIE thought, the moon is masculine and the sun in feminine. Protogermanic Sowilo became Sunna, eventually Sol. A goddess. Whereas Mani was the Norse equivalent (not sure of the older forms), but was male.

The earth was also thought to be Nethus, a goddess. The rest of the sky gods seem to be male, with Thor reprensting storms, Odin the winds, and Tiw the sky. Earth associated dieties were generally feminine, such as various river goddesses and the Matrons being associated with natural formations.

>>13525515

>If I may ask, what would your ideal number of spokes be? (and the rationale behind it)

The simple quartering into the cross or swastika has proven the most potent historically and 12 the most intriguing, you could go mad and try 36 though as that would correlate to the Egyptian Decans.

>>13517809

Black sun is the emanating point from which the entire existence is projected, it is the void between Brahman and Atman. The event horizon of the black hole. The invisible boundary between the collapsed and non-collapsed quantum state. It's everywhere and nowhere. Who controls this boundary, controls the universe.

>>13517953

While there is a lot of symbolism behind the eclipse (masculine and feminine united with excessive masculine (that filtered divinity) shining through), it's not the black sun, since both moon and sun are easily visible, mundane, physical objects. Eclipse, even if rare, is not that uncommon and special.

>>13520038

Kikes always corrupt Aryan symbols to make them lose their potency or achieve the opposite effect, just like they added one bottom length to the cross, to turn the ancient Aryan symbol of ascendancy (long predating Jesuitism) into the implicit cube of Saturn (symbol of slavery to their god). It is a neutral entity that's currently "occupied" by the devil and Christian cross represents worship of matter and slavery to it's mechanistic laws in a sense. There is also a (more likely) possibility of people printing out those being afraid that someone will sue them if they use whatever kikes deem as "hate symbols" , so they make some alterations. Big part of their role over the countless centuries was to obscure, corrupt/desecrate or attempt to erase our symbols, but you cannot do that to something that is implicit in everything that exists, no matter how corrupted and obscured it gets. This connects the astrology, natural world (with it's science), religious symbols etc. The divine code. The same one which generated the Aryan race as it's highest manifestation on earth (at least in recent history, after even higher races resembling us have departed). This is what ironically, makes them the "God's chosen" , not chosen for being the most disgusting and vile spawn to serve the devil, but (evolutionary) chosen by divine natural laws and metaphysical principles to be the master race. It's important to learn this distinction.

>>13520060

I noticed that on the emblem on the knights of the round table pic, the purple one, has 17 crosses on it, probably just a coincidence, but it could represent the siege perilous? Also an interesting choice of color. Could the black sun represent the magic mountain as seen from a certain angle (top)? I didn't do the calculations, but I keep seeing similarity with patterns that you have posted. Also, the spokes could represent the mathematical lightning. This is a question for >>13520991 anon

>the shrine of the humble D4

There also seems to be a star on top, and an orb/circle. How do we go to zero from here? This is where things get difficult Could it perhaps involve the utilization of sine and co-sine waves, the two intertwined snakes?

>that actually carried through into the numeric factors involved in returning from the dead as recorded in the Osiris myth

The eternal recurrence. I come into being age after age ….

Is that excerpt from the James Joyce book?

>>13526300

The Magic Mountain as it relates to the zodiacal light/ecliptic plane could be seen related to the Sun or Venus in those examples.

In numeric terms the D4 has a spot value of 10, set square sides 1+4=5 and 2+3=5, the Hebrew thus somewhat arbitrarily related this to the generation of 10 commandments from the top of their Mount Sinai, all somewhat negative and the first four insisting you worship only the Lord of the Sabbath, which is to say Saturn.

The zodiacal light appears at sunrise/sahar and sunset/shalom with Venus often in conjunction as Morning or Evening star, we might take the mountain of dawn to relate to Jupiter and the establishment of order and empiricism, that of sunset and Saturn to its deconstruction or disintergration also relating that duality to the four quarters of the day or our four sided dice, a NE-SW divide or mid-night to mid-day in terms of the positive, you could also see that as two contrasting serpents or forces, a Left hand and a Right hand path, Vedic tradition as we saw related the D4 to the cardinal directions.

Their concept of zero or void score related to the central axis of the D4, I haven't considered Sine or co-Sine waves so i couldn't say either way, given the complexity though of the greater generated numeric matrix the internal establishment and breakdown of order is like a game of Pac Man, a labyrinth, which is hard to figure unless you have the schematics.

>>13526513

It's not. This shit belongs in /x/, or even /hypno/ because all this bullshit is just a bunch of faggots engaging in excessively elaborate attempts at self hypnosis.

Report and hide.

Perhaps the black sun represents Saturn. The Days of the week do run from SunDay to SaturnDay and Saturn does give off it's own light. It's also the farthest object from the Sun so there is a kind of hermetic polarity there.

Anyone know what's up with disgruntledleaf? The op's quote from his works. Good discussion, interesting thread otherwise.

>>13528243

Nigger.

Its 12 because there are twelve lunar cycles each year. (Its the reason we have 12 months and not 10).

The hakenkreuze comes from the big dipper spinning along Polaria. The twelve spokes are a representation of this movement in the 12 lunar cycles a year had.

People in the past saw stars, we cant see the stars because technology literally blinds us.

>>13522917

>Saturn is the black sun

Agreed.

>>13531037

Good point tbh

>>13533183

>In most traditions the Sun is male the the Moon female.

Not in Nordic or Proto Indo-European which are eldest and therefore superior. The sun should be female as it is what gives and cultivates life.

>Second order celestials are Venus and Mars, we see them occasionally like once in 2 years or so. Third and last is Saturn and Jupiter that we see rarely due to their distance from us.

I see Venus, Saturn and Jupiter every day you retarded faggot. In the fall we’ll be able to see Mars every night. Go the fuck outside moar.

The ‘Black Sun’ or ‘Sonnenrad’ as you plebs call it is actually a Kolovrat and dates back thousands of years. Anyone claiming it is a recent creation, has no historical significance or that himmler just randomly decided to install one in his castle is either misinformed or malicious.

>>13528728

>muh paganshit

>muh spirtualism

Fuck off nigger

>>13540113

>epic post

Took me a few days, and a few readings, but thanks for this post anon. Only one part thats bugging me from your explanation, not sure if this was just a miss-type or what.

>There actually are two suns, but the other one is like an inverse mirror image of ours that exists on the other side of the void.

>but an anti-earth

>Black sun however, is not that anti-sun, but the void itself.

Doesn't this seem like a contradiction?

>But those who do become twice-born, Aryans,

vid related, this is how I first felt when the entire fantasy of our clown world first was broken down when I finally freed myself of white guilt and became racially proud again after a lifetime of demoralization.

>>13547259

Black holes are total dark reasoning made-up bullshit.

>>13540113

I'd grant that there is other worlds or secret locations that can be accessed through poles and things like that such as the nations of Gog and Magog, but if you think you can get some sort of eternal life by another means other than the son of God, you are going to burn in hell with the kikes who think they are going to kill him again on the day of the Lord.

It sounds like you have been turned into a reprobate because you hated God too much and are now incapable of believing on Christ anymore. But just incase you arent a reprobate, im going to provide a chance for you to get eternal life right now.

Hear the gospel presentation I've embedded, believe it and call upon the name of the Lord and ask him to save you from your sins and give you eternal life right now.

>>13534344

>Not in Nordic or Proto Indo-European

That’s what key here, really spot on, but those traditions and understanding of ancestoral knowledge. Aka what my direct lineage knew.

The dude you are responding to starts spouting off about kabalistic knowledge, which is defined as:

>A body of mystical teachings of rabbinical origin, often based on an esoteric interpretation of the Hebrew Scriptures

No thanks

>>13545641

Go back worshiping El, judeophile.

>>13547423

Spoon some more explanation out anon, I'd like to hear your reasoning on this, and I don't necessarily disagree since much of our "science" seems as belief nowadays rather then proof.

>>13547484

How do you respond to >>13517953 because it is eerie how it corresponds to a female menstrual cycle. I may be mistaken but I thought kabbalistic thought on this was that the sun and moon have no "gender" but venus is motherly figure, mars the son, and jupitor the father.

>>13547515

>it is eerie how it corresponds to a female menstrual cycle.

Nah, it’s just the EM of the moon playing on the iron in the blood. Or think of it this way, only a male lunar God(Mani in Norse) could turn women in to nagging twats for five days. In the Hindu tradition this segregated to Manu, the perfect male archetype of a king. The male lunar god is also where King MENelaus of the Iliad gets his name. It’s also the root of menstruation. Another way to think about them, the Sun is always there keeping the hearth fire for us, while the moon goes off “raiding” for three days a month.

>I thought kabbalistic thought on this was that the sun and moon have no "gender" but venus is motherly figure, mars the son, and jupitor the father.

>kabbalistic thought

Anon I… Venus the planet is male as the Morning Star(Apollo) and female as the evening star(Aphrodite/Venus); this is paramount in Esoteric Hitlerism. The sun and moon most certainly have complimentary gender aspects, but they have been reversed by kikes and larping Wiccan/new age trash. The Indo-European civilizations who revered the sun as male and moon as female all peaked and ended in decadent degeneracy. Don’t gender bend the gods of our oldest ancestors just because the Greco-Romans had the prettiest statues.

>Spoon some more explanation out anon

He means that black holes are just mathematical constructs to make (((reletivity))) work when astronomical observations show it doesn’t.

>>13547648

>He means that black holes are just mathematical constructs to make (((reletivity))) work when astronomical observations show it doesn’t.

What about that first image of a black hole, or the observations regarding the behaviors and orbits of stars in the centers of galaxies? Maybe they're all made up too, but afaik, they're legit observations.

There is a black hole within every star. There you have it. The hidden "sun", the "black" sun. The void. The beginning and the end.

Starlight writes DNA. blah blah blah, bunch of knowledge free-masons and other retards have kept secret.

SOL INVICTUS

>>13517953

Fuck off nigger.

>>13547598

>interesting

While I enjoyed your post anon, I couldn't quite figure out how it had to do with the symbol itself. I did some research on this couple and didn't find much for reference, I admit no deep digging was done, but could you connect this mans story to the symbol more clearly for me?

>>13547636

Calm your tits anon, I'm no kike, just a fellow soul looking for info on a topic that has disagreement obv in the community. I reread the thread today and I haven't seen anyone post about the black sun being evil btw.

>>13547648

Thanks for the further info anon, I've contemplated it much today, I must say, I've always considered the sun male and the moon female, its taking some doing, but I am inclined to agree with your rationalization on it.

>Nah, it’s just the EM of the moon playing on the iron in the blood.

Could you explain to me how this doesn't effect the other mammals the same way? I thought all red blooded mammals had iron in the blood, so if it does this to women, why wouldn't it to others, especially other apes.

>>13547707

Thanks for bringing up Dollard again, I had some of his videos on watch list but had slacked on it. Now that I'm more versed in his theories (which I've heard before since research Tesla in the past) I am inclined to consider it, verily. The only sticking point I have, is the way to "proof" his basic premise would be to strap my ass to a rocket and go to space, so I can see thats it dark and not lit like (((they))) say. I must admit, his theories along with Tesla, make a lot of sense, and with the amount of lies fed to us by (((authorities))) he deserves recognition for his work, not ridicule like he seems to have gotten in the past.

>>13547781

I remember that pic of the black hole you speak of, so unless fake I can't speak to this, but, counter-space theory for lack of a better term, would mean (and another anon correct me if i'm wrong on this, still new to it myself) that instead of relativity keeping everything in motion, its more along the lines of magnetism. Think down to the atom, with its protons, electrons, and neutrons. The theory is centered on the concept of ether, which has been talked about throughout history, Aristotle being one of my personal favorites on the subject.

>>13548113

Why the hate? This is a discussion thread, and he made a good post.

>>13549927

>instead of relativity keeping everything in motion, its more along the lines of magnetism. Think down to the atom, with its protons, electrons, and neutrons. The theory is centered on the concept of ether, which has been talked about throughout history, Aristotle being one of my personal favorites on the subject.

How does any of this invalidate the idea or concept of a black hole? I'm curious to learn more about what you're talking about, but I'm not jiving with the idea that there's no such thing as black holes, or celestial objects that are akin to them. I understand rejecting relativity and whatever latent-kikery there might be in it, but imo, the concept of a black hole isn't really dependent on Einstein's relativity. The idea that there could be "dark stars" that don't let light escape was around for little more than a century before Einstein was born, iirc.

>>13549939

Numerology is so stupid.

>>13517953

I smell a discordian. all caps absurd, 8 (2 to the 3) of the digit 5, says the moons orbit is a perfect circle…

>>13552788 (Heil’d)

Beautiful anon. Yours or sauce?

>>13545641

Double nigger, anti-sage

Asking again, anyone know what's up with disgruntled leaf network? Changed names, dead?

>>13549939

good images, and good points

>what now

We keep at it, design implies purpose.

>>13550692

I like it, kinda creepy looking tho, reminds me of mordor banners.

>>13551087

Vid is

dollard, I am not well enough versed on his theories to speak authoritatively on his views, just learning them myself from this thread! bumping if maybe another anon has a good answer for yah. Maybe from >>13547707 or >>13523046

>>13552788

Bot? I'm not 100% sure what Rosicruciounsim and bible verse has to do with black star, but I must say I did like the post and image.

>>13554696

>>13554744

Whats the disgruntled leaf network? Mind dropping some info for me? I might do some digging on it if I know more about it.>Dollard

https://es.metapedia.org/wiki/Sol_negro

>>13555842

>Whats the disgruntled leaf network? Mind dropping some info for me? I might do some digging on it if I know more about it.

It's a Canadian YouTube channel that's really fucking good. Think of it as like VertigoPolitix, but diving much deeper into esotericism/Hermeticism. The channel's still up, afaik.

>>13555842

This leaf, the quote from the OP is from this vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9XLr3lxeH8

>>13556736

>Think of it as like VertigoPolitix

Speaking of which after he was shut down or he shut down his last white man channel do you know by what name he goes currently. I had a link to his old wordpress saved up in case this happens but that shit is down too.

>>13557512

I'm afraid I don't know what his new name is. I know he's still up, I think it starts with an S, but I can't remember it, unfortunately.

>>13557512

>>13558675

He started a new channel called LastWhiteMan but that got shoah'ed after a few videos. There's an archive of all his videos and a lot of then are on bitchute. I don't know what he personally does now

>>13551885

Numerology is taking a bunch of arbitrary numbers and acting like you've discovered the secret of life when you find that they almost, but don't quite, add up to another arbitrary number with no relation.

>I have an unstated issue with the word you used for this moronic practice

Sue me.

>>13518775

>I had never heard this before, could you elaborate on the Sufism connection?

I apologize for my late response. Here is an exert from one of Henry Corbin's books.

>The Orient-origin, which orients and magnetizes the

return and reascent, is the celestial pole, the cosmic North, the

"emerald ·

rock" at the summit of the cosmic mountain of QAf,

in the very place where the world of HorqalyA begins; so it is not

a region situated in the East on the maps, not even those old

maps that place the East at the top, in place of the North. The

meaning of man and the meaning of his world are conferred upon

them by this polar dimension11 and not by a linear, horizontal,

and one-dimensional evolution, that famous "sense of history"

which nowadays has been taken for granted, even though the

terms of reference on which it is based remain entirely hypothetical.

>Moreover, the paradise of Virna in which are preserved the most beautiful of beings who will repopulate a transfigured

world, namely, the V ar that preserves the seed of the resurrection

bodies, is situated in the North. The Earth of Light, the Terra

Lucida of Manicheism, like that of Mandeism, is also situated

in the direction of the cosmic North. In the same way, according

to the mystic 'Abd al-Karlm JJli ( cf. Part Two, Art. IV ), the

"Earth of the souls" is a region in the far North, the only one not

to have been affected by the consequences of the fall of Adam.

It is the abode of the "men of the Invisible," ruled by the mysterious prophet Khi�r. A characteristic feature is that its light is

that of the "midnight sun," since the evening prayer is unknown

there, dawn rising before the sun has set. And here it might be

useful to look at all the symbols that converge toward the

paradise of the North, the souls' Earth of Light and the castle

of the Grail.

>>13560208

I'll add on an extra part. It doesn't mention the Black Sun again, but the fact that it mentions "Superhumans" and a "pure race" is really interesting.

>"Having greeted him and my greeting having been returned, I said to him, 'I wish to obtain access to the men of the world of Mystery ( rijdl al-ghayb, the Invisible Ones, the Superhuman Ones). There is no doubt that I fulfil the conditions.'

>" 'Then it is the time to enter,' he said to me. 'The time to reunite has come.' With his ring he knocked on the door which remained closed hitherto and it opened very widely. I penetrated into the city of the marvelous Earth; its length and breadth are immense, its inhabitants have a knowledge of God such as is possessed by no other creature. There is no man among them who lets himself be distracted. Its soil is a pure and very white wheat flour; its Heaven is of green emerald. Its sedentary inhabitants are of a pure race and of high nobility; they recognize no other king than Khi=?r ( al-Khac;lir) ,11 It was precisely with him that I deposited my luggage. Entering into his presence, I kneeled down and proceeded to present my greetings. In his turn, he bid me welcome as does one friend to another. Then he invited me to be his guest, and with a smile that put me perfectly at ease, he said to me, 'Well! Now say what you have to say.'

>>13559614

Okay lads, i discovered his present channel by chance. It's name is Goingpostal.

>>13522303

>Operation paperclip

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winfried_Otto_Schumann

The works of this man might have been more important than those of Wernher von Braun and others, but perhaps not as useful for the kikes and their paradigm (at the time).

>some great changes capable of turning the world upside down

Basically flipping the table once kikery becomes absolute

>>13522917

I got a YT suggestion of Robert Sepehr video making a similar case, pure coheincidence :>) I think some anon posted a video in another thread about Saturn being a dead star, an interesting theory, but not related to the black sun. There are countless other suns (stars) that are visible in the night sky, nothing too special about them.

>>13523046

>regarding cumulative damage by bad freqs too often

We are being assaulted by mental poz from all sides, the best way would be to avoid it, along with contact with subhumans (including hollow/too corrupted whites), whenever possible. It should not affect you too much if your vimana is strong enough, you'd just draw a mental boundary between a Vedic god and a shudra, giving them (and everything produced by them) absolute contempt and abhorrence. We are going to get surrounded by them more and more as Kali Yuga reaches it's peak and we enter into the age of lead, which is why learning to "swim in sewers" would be advisable, at least for 'vanguard commandos' like us. The more your 'inner sun' shines, the less affected you are by what happens outside of you. Which is one of practical aspects of these threads.

>theoretical jew math larping as science

Jews stole Aryan math/science and did two things with it. First, they corrupted it, rendering it impotent and corrosive for it's creators. Second, they completely separated it from the Myth/metaphysics, philosophy and higher Reason with their empiricism (which was the only way for purely material creatures to have any, even if partial, understanding of it). By rejecting it in it's entirety, you are rejecting something crucial and sentencing yourself to ignorance. Rather, it should be recovered, reconstructed, purified and reintegrated into the totality. Otherwise you become prey for the lord of lies. Race must be observed in both materialistic and metaphysical manner in order to survive, I've covered this previously.

>>13525515

9 numbers are the actual numerals, with 10 (1 and 0 integrated) representing totality, the 'magic number' . Roman X, which could be a variation of the rune.

>>13526372

Some depictions of the staff of Moses do resemble Irminsul, and the powers attributed to it should not be disregarded. Was he actually a member of some other 'tribe' , the story of him being appropriated by the kikes as their own? Or at least, the Indo-European myth which was a basis for his construction as a fictional character.

>establishment of order and empiricism

Empiricism can account only for the small percentage of order, insufficient into itself, without ontological reality, a certain portion of the wave-band or things as if observed from a very narrow angle (this angle not necessarily being Cartesian)

>Their concept of zero or void score related to the central axis of the D4

And the one around which everything spins. It remains the same, immovable, regardless of the coordinates (wherever you place the ruler, yet nowhere)

>which is hard to figure unless you have the schematics

We are trying to figure out the schematics ITT

I'll be away for a while, I'll try to respond to the rest when I get back.

Where are all you esoteric lads going to bunker up?