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A CHARTER OF PRIVILEGES OF THE JEWS IN ANCONA OF THE YEAR 1535

So most of this paper (link at the bottom) gives the text in Old Italian I presume, but the authors provide us a summary of each chapter. I'm well aware that the greentext is long, so if anyone wants a summary of my condensed summary below, here it is:

Jews are completely exempt from all taxes except the taille (direct land-tax), the extraction of 30-45% interest from "any person, ecclesiastic or secular, to servants, children, and women.", they are freely permitted to practice their religion, not are not forced to be identified in public, they have the right to bear arms and especial provision was made for their security on Good Friday. Oppressed or privilege….?

>1. The local authorities are to make no laws or regulations to the prejudice of the Jews herein referred to.

> 8. They are exempt from all taxes or imposts of every description except the taille to the Roman See

> 9. They are to pay no tithes to any person ecclesiastic or secular.

> 10. If pledges are not redeemed within one year, they may be sold as though they were the banker's property. If the latter chooses to keep them he may charge interest as heretofore.

>11. The Jews are not to be required or forced to loan upon security more than they choose. If the pledge is lost or stolen, they may deduct amount loaned and interest, in making compensation. They may loan to any person, ecclesiastic or secular, to servants, children, and women.

>12. After the year of redemption has passed they may add the accrued interest to the capital without prejudice to their right of selling the pledge

>13. Statutes of limitations are not to run against their written contracts

>18. The local butchers are to slaughter cattle of the Jews according to the Jewish ritual, under pain of 5 fl. fine for every offense. The Jews may, otherwise, slaughter them themselves without payment of any licence-fees, and sell what their dietary laws forbid them to use

>19. On Good Friday they are to be free from molestation of any sort. The local officials, under pain of 100 gold ducats fine, are to take special precaution to secure their safety by appropriate proclamations. The head of the household will be responsible for acts committed by minors under his care

>23. In loans without security they may charge 1 1/2 bolognini per florin a month (45 % per annum), or as per agreement. Their debtors of every sort must pay for the actual time elapsed, whatever may be the period mentioned in the agreement. The petitioners may have summary execution for principal and interest due

>27. They need not wear a badge of any sort.

>35. For their security, they may bear arms in or out of the places mentioned

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1450994 (use sci-hub.tw)

>Although the Jews of both Palestine and the Diaspora had steadily moved into the orbit of the Roman world in the course of the second century B.C.E., Rome did not develop a substantial body of laws regarding the Jews until the second half of the first century B.C.E. Only then, in the fifty-odd years from Caesar to Augustus, did Roman magistrates pass a number of decrees aimed at protecting the free exercise of Jewish religion. They decreed that Jews might gather freely in thiasoi, observe the Sabbath and the Jewish festivals, send money to the Temple in Jerusalem, and enjoy autonomy in their communal affairs. ==Jews were also absolved from compulsory enrollment in the Roman military==.[1]

>[1] Josephus, AJ 14.190-264, 16.162-73. For later measures taken by Claudius, see Josephus, AJ 19.278-91, 19.299-311, 20.1-14. 1 Macc. 15 claims that Rome became a guarantor of Jewish religious liberty throughout the Mediterranean as early as the second century B.C.E. But there in no convincing evidence to substantiate this claim: see J.-D. Gauger, Beitrage zur judischen Apologetik: Untersuchungen our Authentizitat von Urkunden bei Flavius Josephus und im ersten Makkabaerbuch (Cologne: Hansten, 1977) 299f. The enrollment of the Jews in the formula amicorum et sociorum of the Roman People in 140 B.C.E. did not oblige the Romans to protect the rights of individual Jews living in the Diaspora: see ibid. 188f., 205, 229f., 253f., 324.

https://primolevicenter.org/printed-matter/roman-policy-towards-the-jews-expulsions-from-the-city-of-rome-during-the-first-century-c-e/

The Julio-Claudians had a Rothschild-tier court jew system in Alexandria, Egypt called the "Alabarchy". I thus had came to the conclusion that the jewish financial and political control today should be called an Alabarchy.

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/1055-alabarch

These people were responsible for taxation and were extremely wealthy. Josephus said that Alexander the Alabarch surpassed all other citizens in "ancestry and wealth" (Antiquities 20.100) who overlaid the gates of the Jerusalem temple with gold (Judean War, 5.205), and he was in-fact the younger brother of Philo, who was a Hellenistic jewish philosopher that helped develop the eternal soul doctrine. He was even said to be a friend of Claudius.

This establishes a jewish elite going back to late Hellenistic times

>medieval jewry

The Codex Theodosianus obviously allowed jews special privileges within the Roman empire (merchants set their own price, you cannot kill the jew even in the name of Christianity, Judaism is not banned, jews are exempt from service, etc.). Charlemagne (this is a pretty obvious one) knighted for the court jews as a financial class until only a few weeks before his death.

Ebalus, the Duke of Aquitaine was called "Ebalus the Mamzer". Now mamzer was a Hebrew word meaning mongrel/bastard. It's used in the Latin Vulgate in Deuteronomy 23, and in general it was used in Latin to describe jewish mongrels in the medieval times. Perhaps Ebalus the Mamzer was a mamzer as in, his mum was jewish? Similarly, William the conqueror (who conquered England, literally went on a genocide campaign against the former Danish settlers and Northumbrians, brought jews to England who eventually became a major financial class, etc.) was also called "William the Mamzer", and his commoner mother was a daughter of a tanner, common jewish occupation in Europe at the time. In-fact in contemporary Greece and Anatolia, jews were notorious for being so filthy as they were tanners.

https://standpointmag.co.uk/issues/may-2016/counterpoints-may-2016-joshua-gelernter-william-the-conqueror-was-jewish/

>Not to derail your thread, but I have a strong suspicion that the reason the alt-kike pushes medieval iconography is because, contrary to what we've been (((taught))), jews were lording it over the goyim and it was such a genetically destructive era for whites. Kind of like how the alt-kike utilizes Confederate iconography, since the CSA was fighting to keep niggers in America to eventually destroy the integrity of the white race.

It should've been obvious from the get-go all the glorification of the middle ages is suspicious. Why do you think that jewish hollywood pushes this image of knights being heroic?

Feudalism wasn't a "golden age" for whites. It's when big hat in Rome, the emperor or the noblemen that served them practically had total rule over the European populace. Jews were expelled most of the time not even by the feudal lords, but by rioting peasants, and it's in-fact the Catholic authorities that kept moving the jews around Europe until they all settled in Poland. There are FAR more than 109 expulsion of the jews yet this number keeps being pushed around as the amount of times jews were expelled around the world. Vast majority of them weren't even by the kings themselves.

Speaking of both Charlemagne's relations with jews and Aquitane, the old realm of Septimania, populated by Arian Visigoths but recently splitting from the rest of the Visigothic kingdom due to the Islamic conquests was conquered by Pepin's primarily Catholic army. The jews that opened the gates for Pepin's army in Narbonne fact were awarded with land in Septimania. This is in-fact a common theme in medieval history, them helping invasions and getting rewarded. They helped the Moors invade the Visigoths in Toledo, they helped the Franks invade Narbonne, later on they helped the Turks take Constantinople.

http://jewishmag.com/175mag/septimania_jewish_kingdom/septimania_jewish_kingdom.htm

The king was a Persian jew who claimed descent from David. Read above article.

>As a part of the agreement to create Septimania, it was understand that, under the feudal system of the time, Natronai–who now took the Hebrew name of Machir-would give oaths of allegiance to the King of the Franks. King Charles requested that Machir marry his aunt Alda. A request from the King of the Franks was a command.

>All now came clear. So this was why Pepin had required that the King of Septimania be a direct descendant of King David! The problem for Pepin, and for his son, King Charles, was that Pepin had usurped the throne of the Franks from the Merovingians, and thus there was no royal blood in their veins. This they desperately needed in order to establish the legitimacy of their dynasty. By this marriage of Alda to Machir, who was a direct lineal descendant of King David, they would not only have royal blood in the veins of their descendants, but the most royal blood possible, the blood of David himself!

>But how could such a marriage take place? Alda was Catholic, and no Catholic priest would marry her to a Jew unless the Jew converted, which of course Machir absolutely could not do. On the other hand, no rabbi would marry Machir to a gentile unless she converted. An unsolvable dilemma? Apparently not, for marry they did, and had a legitimate son through whom Jewish blood now was intermingled with that of the Carolingian kings of France. How was this possible? History is silent. There was a way that perhaps it could be accomplished, based on the customs of the time. Whether in fact this way was used is purely speculative.

So not only did the dukes of Aquitane later inherit jewish blood illegitimately, but Charlemagne himself legally had a jewish uncle, who married his aunt by his own order! Meaning that the jewish kings of Septimania were in-fact related to the Carolingians. Now, going back to the Goths, this word comes into play later on during the medieval ages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cagot

Cagots were a group in Septimania, the Basque country, and Aquitane. They were grossly persecuted by all their neighbours for some reason, despite being religious even in the churches they were treated as lepers. Why were they called Cagots? The name derives roughly from "Caas" or "Canine" and "Goth". This would mean that Cagot literally translates to Gothic dog.

I propose that they were called "Cagots" or "Gothic dogs" by the jewish rulers of Septimania as a jewish prejudice against whites, and that this is why they were persecuted.

It's definitely possible that the Carolingians had some jewish blood even before they took charge, perhaps through some bastard somewhere in the Merovingian lines, blood, though it's doubtful unlike with William the bastard or especially the kings of Spain (despite him starting the inquisition, Ferdinand II was 1/8th jewish, and even the other Europeans thought of Spain as a den of jewry). He was described as swarthy, though it can be through southern Italian ancestry as well. But what we do know for sure, is that Charlemagne had jews in his extended family.

Jews hadn't been infiltrating northern Europe like they did Rome or even the Middle Eastern empires, they infiltrated it like they did for example, Poland. They probably first went to the wilder more inland parts of Germania sometime around the 2nd century AD though they already were all over Rome even before the 1st century AD (expelled from Rome by Hispanus though later came back, already had a community in Greece and ritualistically massacred Greeks in Crete), I would say the Roman controlled parts of Germania had jews dating back to the 1st or 2nd century (they're documented in the parts of Switzerland that were a part of Germania Superior), and Constantine allowed the jews to enter the city council of Cologne in 324 AD.

Russia would've also had an old jewish presence predating the Khazars, Crimea probably had jews dating back to antiquity, most likely the jews of Persia or Anatolia. These folks would've traded around the area of Ukraine which is why jewish presence is documented so much around that area. Later on the Radhanites (pic related was their trade routes, from France to China, and also a Radhanite merchant depicted in Chinese art) had southern Russia as a major trading hub. Russian jewry originated here, they bought Slavic slaves from nomads, and sold them to the Romans and Arabs (this is why "slave" comes from "Slav"), as far west as Spain. They tried to take over the whole of Russia several times. They were only stopped by Ivan Grozny, which is probably why they always depict him as some hollywood villain (sacking Novgorod, playing football with severed heads, impaling people, etc.) and still call him "Ivan the Terrible" in English. Also notice how much they use impaling people in propaganda around that period, it's possible that Vlad the Impaler wasn't an impaler at all.

Going back to late antiquity/early middle ages, and for the Middle East this time, not Europe. There was already pro-jewish sentiment in Persia and specifically their territory in Mesopotamia during the Sasanian period (Shapur II, who launched genocidal campaigns against Armenians and Arabs) and even within (certain) political circles in the Parthian empire before that. However, the Parthians wouldn't take jewry too nicely. The jews of Babylon in particular led revolts against the Parthians several times in order to seize power. In Nehardea, two certain jews show the full extent of the jewish mentality during war and during work before that, the brothers Anilai and Asinai, yids that were punished as weavers because of how they tried to jew their way out of it. Images quote Josephus's Antiquities 18 Chapter 9, which is the only work we have dedicated to them. In short, they revolted against the Parthians to create their own jewish state in Babylon, and in-turn ended up killing a bunch of Parthians, Greeks, and Syrians alike. They were punished in return by such communities.

In Sassanid Persia, the Mesopotamian jews under Mar Zutra II, the Exilarch of the jews of Babylon made use of the coinciding political instability, and seized power near Ctesiphon. Mar Zutra II was full sent on creating his own jewish state:

>Klima, who had concluded from SOZ that Mar Zutra collected taxes during his revolts from the Gentiles, too, "since there is nothing new in informing us that the Exilarch collected taxes from the Jewish inhabitants"

Though the Shahansah Kawad I put down the revolt and executed the jewish exilarch, the same Mesopotamian jews began to support Kawad after he invaded the Byzantine empire, around the same time its instability plagued the west, showing how they've always been willing to support both sides to come out victorious.

>>33289

The greatest myth is the Diaspora, that they were forcibly expelled from Israel/Palestine by the Romans, and they never were, an entire people abandoned their homeland for opportunism.

It's under-estimated the scale of the Jewish expansion from the time they had freedom of movement within the Greek successor Kingdoms and the rapid expansion of Hellenistic Judaism which went on to become Christianity, Alexander the Great was the best thing that ever happened for them.

It is also the case that i have examined the nature of their God YHWH as that is the key to the entire mystery, the nature of their God is Growth/Expansion, the generation of being, symbolized by the Divine Child of the crescent Moon, in earlier times a cannibal cult as growth is achieved by consuming others.

They have then entirely aligned themselves with this principle of growth at the expense of others, a God of more sheep and more shekels and more power, the Divine principle in and of itself is neutral and the concept is not original to them but they adopted it fanatically, it can be either good or evil that grows and expands, in their case of course the expansion of evil from the Sinai region.

i dont get it! why are they so hated!?

>>33289

>1st pic

You could have covered it all in yellow it, the entirety of it is outrageous.

>>33299

>There's much more kabbalah symbolism in cathedrals than even just that, hexagrams too. Don't forget that the high churches and cathedrals were built by basically proto-freemasons (the original bricklaying guilds).

Hexagrams are nothing wrong per se.

As for proto-Masons, there's nothing wrong with that too. You should not confuse late Masonry (Judeo-Masonry) with its origins. Masons obeyed sacred rules as to how build temples. These rules will never change even if Jews were to be gone from this world.

>>33302

>Napoleon (freemasonic jew and one of the first Zionists who tried carving out a jewish state in Palestine, his family left for Corsica same time many jews did) ended the French war with Austria in Judenburg.

Napoleon was not a Jew at all but did indeed get "masoned" although like many men of his stature, he didn't seem to pursue these matters. He tried to obtain support from kikes during the campaign in the Western Levant but that didn't work. He in fact had plans to solve the JQ in a most peculiar way, by forcing them to marry gentiles.

Jews acting as intermediary agents in conflicts, because of their high positions within offices, is expected although unfortunate.

Finally Napoleon got betrayed by Jews he used for intelligence during the war.

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>>33442

On the one hand it's not like every Jew was sniffed out house by house and forced to fuck off into the desert but on the other hand the Romans did a pretty good job of razing the cultural and spiritual center of Judaism, physically as well as otherwise.

>>34530

They'd already developed the decentralized form of Judaism during the Babylonian exile based upon the localized synagogue, these had expanded everywhere during the Hellenistic period and the early Churches also emerged from the decentralized communities of Hellenistic-Judaism.

>>41866

That actually explains alot. Has long has it didn't involve magic then why would christians object to being healers? Has long has the position amounted to just really primitive doctors then it should be fine, or do I need to read about it because admittedly my understanding about healers is pretty low.

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>>41930

It's that the clergy found it to be superstitious. In the middle ages primitive medicine would've worked fine if not for that.

Thanks. This gives me goosebumps.

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>>33460

expansion is same meaning as brahman, it's knowledge of the source

the four letter word represents the four elements and four corners of space and time

this is the same meaning as the swastika

>>46512

Shutted down.

>>96162

Here's an example of a jewish tactic to hinder research on ancient jewry, i.e.: "jews aren't jews". Since Josephus postdates the jews' high positions in Alexandrian Egypt (and the entire history of Roman Judea in-fact, something that can't be substituted otherwise, especially when considering non Roman/Greek mentions of jewry into the equation), trying to "deconstruct" jewish history as non-existent limits anti-jewish sentiment as by extension it denies jews as a biological subrace. Shlomo Sand, Eran Elhaik, Israel Finkelstein, Arthur Koestler and everyone else pushing this theory are all jews that "deny" their own history; after all, it makes it easier for them to subvert others.

>tbh

Although it isn't negroid in origin (originated in Usenet), the way you write that comes off as incredibly negrified.

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>>104656

In an old documentary The Other Israel, I heard that the Ashkinazi Jews (the majority of modern "Jews") are descendants of the Khazars. Apparently, the Khazarian king made Judaism the national religion in the 18th century, and the people bought the idea that they are the "true Jews". Eventually they migrated into the surrounding nations of Europe and Russia to apply their newfound revolutionary spirit in gentile nations.

>>104672

>Khazars

That's been proven as disinformation years ago, likely to limit anti-jewish sentiment into only opposing "fake jews", and to thus more easily subvert others.

1. Every single jewish group in the world resembles each other; even the "Bokharan jews" of Central Asia slightly resemble Ashkenazi and Sephardi jews because of ancient Semitic/Levantine mixture.

2. The "Rhineland hypothesis" is a historical fact, because of the Edict of Constantine in 324 AD.

https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/source/300-800-laws-jews.asp

>With certain exceptions Jews are to be called to the Decurionate.

He invited the jews of Cologne into the Decurionate or City Council, which proves that jews have been living in the Rhineland and thus Germany since long before the Khazars even entered Europe, first likely as Tengrists (and it's also a fact that only the Khazarian nobility were jews, not the general population). To give a comparison, the Council of Nicaea was only in 325 AD, a year after that edict, meaning that jews were living in Germany long before Rome's Christianisation let alone the judaisation of the Khazars.

>newfound revolutionary spirit

That's not a "newfound" revolutionary spirit. I've proven already that the jews were already infiltrating Rome and later European kingdoms long before the fall of Khazaria. In-fact, the jewish kingdom of Septimania only slightly postdates the of the Khazars, and they were literally denigrating the Visigoths that they ruled over as "Cagots", i.e. Gothic dogs.

good thread

>>104681

>1. Every single jewish group in the world resembles each other; even the "Bokharan jews" of Central Asia slightly resemble Ashkenazi and Sephardi jews because of ancient Semitic/Levantine mixture.

How about you post a few images for comparison?

>>104905

Why do Sephardi and Mizrahi Jews look "whiter" than their surrounding populations of non-jews?

>>104913

>Why do Sephardi and Mizrahi Jews look "whiter" than their surrounding populations of non-jews?

That's an extremely bad job at trying to gaslight the Levantine root of jewry; because that just proves my point. They don't look exactly like Arabs because they're their own subrace, with varying degrees of foreign mixture; however, they still retain a distinct Semitic/Levantine facial type.

It's telling that so many people in this thread are trying to corrode legitimate research and historical facts with "jews aren't jews" and various types of conjecture. Look at this poster for example:

>>105039

>"Jewish" in quotations

>it's more "Satanic Saturn" nonsense

I can see through your attempt of trying to shit up the thread with your occult rabbitholes. Your little infograph hardly even touches regular jewish doctrines let alone the kabbalah; whereas what it does touch on it gets extremely inaccurate, and it ignores the fact that the Roman gods all had different cults tied to them, including Saturn, ultimately not rooted in their original figure(s). It only comes off as another attempt to both deflect from the racial angle of judaism and actually make judaism seem more tame by doing so, and to purposely dilute truths regarding ancient jewry with this nonsense. Everything I posted in this thread is a historical fact, whereas this is just a bunch of conjecture regarding judaism which is either poor research at best, or deliberate misdirection at worst; and I'm already leaning towards the latter.

>>105174

>conjecture regarding judaism which is either poor research at best, or deliberate misdirection at worst

It's the former, but what's wrong with conjecture? Anyways, none of the disjoint facts in the infograph are "extremely inaccurate", or at least they are all lifted from either scripture itself or wikipedia…

Poorly researched indeed, but if you don't like the conclusion that YOU inferred, I don't see what that has to do with the facts themselves. The MO of of /pol/ is to put a bunch of facts side-by-side and hope that people make the connection. You didn't, and that's not my fault. To be fair though, I was mainly thinking of shilling this to evangelicals who are already thinking in terms of spiritual archetypes. These are people who already believe that all evil throughout history is "the work of Satan". I think there's potential to expand on their concept of Satan to encompass similar archetypes in pre-Christian religions (and Judaism). Can it backfire? Is it bad for the movement? idk, but presenting actual facts about the holohoax to low-IQ Christians also never works, so apparently sourced facts are not the only tactic in this game.

>>105176

That's true. The trick of redpilling evangelicals is the religious angle. They wouldn't dare ignore their holy book which is the highest authority. Find the right scripture quotes and you can mold them like butter

>>104657

The oldest records of their pre-disposition towards slavery relate to the Suteans and Yahmuteans who were the ancestors of the Hebrews from the Sinai region, they had the worst reputation for this in Sumerian texts.

https://www.academia.edu/10546577/Ziegler_N._and_Reculeau_H._2014._The_Sutean_Nomads_in_the_Mari_Period_in_D._Morandi_Bonacossi_ed._Settlement_Dynamics_and_Human-Landscape_Interaction_in_the_Dry_Steppes_of_Syria_Studia_Chaburensia_4_Wiesbaden_pp._209-226

Israel and the Jews are a Sutean/Sethian religious group that emerged from the Sinai with an emphasis on tribal unity and covenant and hostile intent towards all others.

https://www.academia.edu/37462174/Sons_of_Seth_and_the_South_Wind

For the Egyptians the Suteans/Sethians were the epitome of evil and the God Set was their tutelary Deity, this was inverted in Sethian Gnosticism.

http://gnosis.org/naghamm/goseqypt.html

>>105205

hows about you attach those pdf's instead of linking to academia.edu

seems interesting

>>105176

>It's the former

Aside from Cain (whose genealogy is considered to be dead in both judaism and CH anyways, and is thus essentially irrelevant in the whole equation), circumcision and sacrifices, your infograph hardly touched on judaism at all. The rest is a bunch of nonsense about Saturn or whatever.

>none of the disjoint facts in the infograph are "extremely inaccurate", or at least they are all lifted from either scripture itself or wikipedia…

And you're not actually refuting any of my points regarding why it is extremely inaccurate. There were several different cults of Saturn, Baal, etc., and you're all grouping the entirety of the mythology into one collective idea, and claiming that it's this Satanic cult that later became judaism, of which you have no evidence for. It's conjecture, and its tie-in to rabbinic judaism isn't even a historical fact.

>Poorly researched indeed, but if you don't like the conclusion that YOU inferred, I don't see what that has to do with the facts themselves. The MO of of /pol/ is to put a bunch of facts side-by-side and hope that people make the connection. You didn't, and that's not my fault. To be fair though, I was mainly thinking of shilling this to evangelicals who are already thinking in terms of spiritual archetypes. These are people who already believe that all evil throughout history is "the work of Satan". I think there's potential to expand on their concept of Satan to encompass similar archetypes in pre-Christian religions (and Judaism). Can it backfire? Is it bad for the movement? idk, but presenting actual facts about the holohoax to low-IQ Christians also never works, so apparently sourced facts are not the only tactic in this game.

So you're admitting that you're trying to misdirect people in order to "bring dumb Christians onto your side". Go figure. This thread is to discuss historical facts, not to make up a bunch of nonsense that some dumb people will fall for. Most people, Christians included would consider any talk of this nonsensical and would thus associate everything regarding jewish conspiracism with either "Nazis" or your misdirection. I've done nothing but cite historical facts, and you're trying to tie in some occult rabbithole into this, of which you admit is poorly researched.

>>105197

Most Christians, like jews can't even follow their own religion consistently without resorting to pilpul. What makes you think trying to constantly assert this "Saturn" nonsense will suddenly tell them the truth? Unless you and your friend here are really jewish infiltrators trying to corrode historical facts about your tribe with this nonsense to blackwash your enemies (essentially their nature), there's no point in deliberately misleading people with this.

>>105205

>>105214

This also seems like more misdirection with some facts (about Set) to justify it. Most of these sources hardly even refer to the jews and their role in the equation, and some don't even add up to what you're saying.

> The present paper will combine the dataof archaeology,historical inscriptions and literary texts to cast light on the circumstances under which the figure Seth in Judaism emerged. There is a linguistic and historical continuity between the Amorite tribe Suteans and the biblical Seth

For instance, this source doesn't even refer to the Egyptian Set, it refers to the Hebrew Seth, as in the man that killed Cain, thus it doesn't collaborate with your thesis here.

>>105325 Weird, 3000 years ago the worst it could happen is to be sold to protojews.

>The Torah accepts this practice: a man can have sex with only one wife and his slave girls.

>Slave trade was a traditional Jewish occupation …in the 14th century the Christian population feared Ashkenazi Jews, who were known as slave traders.

See:

http://www.pienisalaliittotutkimus.com/2018/02/17/origins-of-the-ashkenazi-jews/

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>>105806

>rich merchants named "Pani"

>near the sea shore

>their god Bala

I'm not saying this is misdirection (far from it; it's welcome in this thread), but this sounds more like it's referring to the Phoenicians ("Pani" and "Punic" seem to come from the same root word). They were Semites, but not jews, in-fact the closest descendants to the ancient Phoenicians are actually Lebanese people; some people push the theory that jews are actually Phoenicians as they're neighbouring Semitic peoples, though that's likely untrue seeing their separation at all. It's been popularised by people like Miles Mathis (it didn't originate with him, but he seems to have spread it), and although he might've been legitimate at one point, nowadays he's a hardline demoraliser which makes his reason for pushing it questionable.

It's more probable that the jews weren't Phoenicians themselves, but they utilised the Phoenician trade routes later on to gain access to foreign land, including India, though that likely postdates the composition of the Rigveda (said to have been completed around 1200 BC), and gained the same mercantile power in doing so, which they would later use to gain their high position in the middle ages.

>>105811

I don't know, Mathis always seemed like disinfo agent to me, intentional or not. Phoenicians - Fanisk - Phoenix, which was also an Aryan symbol. Maybe they borrowed it, maybe they branched in several groups. Jews could originally be a group of Phoenicians that mixed with some negroid tribe of robbers which turned them into typical kikes. I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of them getting infiltrated either. They could have been the British Empire or the USA of that period.

Just found those excerpts funny.

>http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/22782

I was born in Pakistan in a beautiful mountainous area. Parents named me Naqibullah and I adopted my family name Isaczai, which means ‘sons of Isac’. My family is called Khan, Khans are the leaders of Pashtuns. Pashtuns, or Bani Israel, live on both sides of the Durand… There are two small towns in Quetta, one is called ‘Isaczai town’.

I would love to visit Tel Aviv, as it is a very famous city… I also want to visit places where people strictly keep Jewish traditions, so I can learn more about my own traditions. Most inventions are created by Israel! People with such high level of education cannot hate, they cannot discriminate against anyone. Sometimes at work we have security training conducted by police officers. We had one last month, and the man conducting it said that many police and security officers visit Israel to get their training. He said: ‘If you compare US security to Israeli security, you will see that US security is a joke.’

Back in that village in Pakistan nobody knew who Israel and Yaakov were. Despite that, many of them were called Israel, Yaakov and Benyamin.

This is scary, the relocation of the medieval Jews of England to Scotland and their subsequent role in Jacobite Free Masonry.

https://www.academia.edu/36863199/LORD_GEORGE_GORDON_AND_CABALISTIC_FREEMASONRY_BEATING_JACOBITE_SWORDS_INTO_JACOBIN_PLOUGHSHARES_Published_in_Secret_Conversions_to_Judaism_in_Early

>>111151

Sorry about the formatting…my comment got hung up and wouldn't post and I fucked the formatting when I refreshed the screen. Not proofreading…retarded.

>>111145

Here is a great mystery of the ancient Sethians and the identification with their curious totemic Set creature.

https://etheses.bham.ac.uk/id/eprint/7714/1/Taylor17PhD.pdf

It was a greyhound like desert Pig, and like all pigs sought out truffles, in particular the desert truffles of the Sinai region.

>These desert truffles were especially popular among the ancient Jewish communities from the region, who served them either boiled and salted or in a well-known lamb stew traditionally for Passover Seder, The truffles grow especially well in areas near Egypt’s Sinai region

https://nocamels.com/2019/04/rare-israel-cultivate-desert-truffles-worth-more-than-uranium/

The truffles were understood to miraculously appear as manna from Heaven, and the Hebrews as true Sethians were given as spending 40 years in the Sinai living off them, even carrying some in a little jar in the Ark of the Covenant, of course given their tutelary Deity was represented by a pig they were forbidden to eat such.

>It is narrated in the Sahih Muslim that Muhammad said: "Truffles are part of the 'manna' which Allah sent to the people of Israel through Moses, and its juice is a medicine for the eye."

>>111454

We shouldn't assume that these didn't happen at the same time though, right? If the ancient cyclical destruction mythology is correct this all could have happened concurrently. If you look at the flood pattern on Africa via the obvious water flow patterns you can see that it came from a point source as well. Most likely a larger meteor touching down in the Atlantic Ocean.

Sub-saharan niggers comprise a large group, many nations included in that generalization.

Some of them keep alive ancient wisdom. Some are just backwards fucks. Most of the are primitive. Primitive doesn't mean evil.

They could argue that God did it to protect them from the evil white people. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Don't hate on niggers, or indians for that matter. They come from a very old age, pre-flood age, that's all.

The actual problem here is satanists, like the jewish elites. They are controlled by the actual rulers of this world, which are not human.

>>112093

Jews are part human mongrels. That is why they act the way they do on this planet. Europeans are the only HUMANS left on the planet. The rest is a mongrel/part animal nightmare.

>>118775

>You are very foolish if you think that nigger DNA is the only issue here.

I think they span three genetic categories. They have animal genetics (nigger breeding), they have human genetics (European) and they have alien DNA (‘angel/alien’). Straddling these three classifications or genetic categories has made them a putrefaction not just an abomination like the nigger. They are not ‘natural’ on this planet but look, they are ‘winning’, due to this putrefaction, so I am just going to shut my fucking mouth now.

>>119483

>they have alien DNA (‘angel/alien’)

The word you are looking for is synthetic. What created them might not be of this planet though, neither are the original progenitors of whites for that matter. All the ancient myths, theirs, as well as ours, point towards this.

>>111157

Truffles are pretty damn delicious though, can't blame them.

>>111173

Interesting perspective, eye of Sahara looks more like a consequence of airborne nuke detonation. Did you consider that region being a desert as a consequence of the climate though?

>>111479

Meteor, or something looking like a meteor. It's highly likely that these ancient civilizations had a verbal tradition describing an even earlier times, possibly as distant to them as they are to us today.

>>111497

>The (storm)demon with the wide open mouth

I can think of plenty of WMD's (existing, as well as hypothetical) whose effects could be described as such. Stop using sources written by Jewish academics, they have a tendency of making things as mundane as possible. Also, welcome back fren.

>>112093

>Some of them keep alive ancient wisdom.

Mind giving some examples?

>>120564

And then you stood among the dragon-rings.

I mocked, being crazy, but you mastered it

And broke the chain and set my ankles free,

Saint George or else a pagan Perseus;

And now we stare astonished at the sea,

And a miraculous strange bird shrieks at us.

>>33291

i'd swear i once found a reference on wikipedia about a bunch of jews already kicked out of rome around 200 bce, along some other migrants

>>33292

>jews accruing shekels since forever

and we're always surprised.

maybe that's why when some of the knights of the temple tried to outjew the jew on the control of $$$ that (((something had to be done)))?

>Similarly, William the conqueror (who conquered England, literally went on a genocide campaign against the former Danish settlers and Northumbrians, brought jews to England who eventually became a major financial class, etc.) was also called "William the Mamzer", and his commoner mother was a daughter of a tanner, common jewish occupation in Europe at the time.

there's room for debate on this one, the accusation is a little bit weak but i'm all open to evidence because i find this "conqueror" to be like so many other conquerors who conveniently got power after converting to xtianity or just before (prolly part of a deal to push for xtianity on the vanquished in exchange of the gold these conquerors got)… xtianity has been the jews' tool to destroy us

>It should've been obvious from the get-go all the glorification of the middle ages is suspicious.

and to recoup the topic above, the mixed blood lines is something that should be heavily investigated (england, france, prussia, etc)

>FAR more 109 expulsion of the jews

yeah, about that… far more like how much? there's that meme list floating around but i thought it had been much updated and many more expulsions were found, most of the times in yurop?

>>33293

>Pepin's primarily Catholic army

pepin had a deal with the nascent church

you could say it was a coup but the kings had become weak and the mayor's family grew in power

>aquitaine mamzers

and i suppose this settled a precedent although it's good to remember that many catholics, say nearly all of them, would totally object to this

charlemagne might have obtained financial help from this nasi uncle…

>cagots

would have to look into the history of populace movements and settlers

perhaps local plebe didn't fancy some new goth neighbors?

>>33295

>especially the kings of Spain (despite him starting the inquisition, Ferdinand II was 1/8th jewish, and even the other Europeans thought of Spain as a den of jewry)

would be hard not to see this country at a den of kikes back then, but the inquisition partially pushed kikes away back into southern france and some staunch catholics still claim today that the albigenes protected the fleeing kikes

>they already were all over Rome even before the 1st century AD (expelled from Rome by Hispanus though later came back, already had a community in Greece and ritualistically massacred Greeks in Crete)

and in cyrene (lybia i think?)

pretty gruesome shit going by the witnesses

>Crimea probably had jews dating back to antiquity, most likely the jews of Persia or Anatolia

the very influential jewish orthodox community in ukraine keeps making property claims about crimea, at the very least

>(this is why "slave" comes from "Slav")

this is debated too and doesn't make much sense since white slaves came from many parts of europe

>Ivan Grozny

who did nothing wrong obviously

>Vlad

dunno, it's possible the turkroaches fucked up with his head real hard too

>>33299

>Many cathedrals have jewish symbolism in them. Specifically in the Cordoba cathedral there was a lot of kabbalah symbolism, it even depicted the trinity like the kabbalistic tree of life.

got pics because the tree of life was assembled in late jewish mysticism so there would be a chronological issue unless the engraving of this tree into the stones of the cathedral was a late thing too, which wouldn't surprise me the least because (judeo)christian mysticism is an entry door into kabbalah

> hexagrams too

hexas aren't not a problem

don't forget jews stole a lot of stuff… the most worrying part is how hard it is to find the original sources, as if they had been relentlessly destroying them everywhere on this planet for thousands of years

(remember the us and french presidents going to caves in the middle east back in early 2000s as part of the war in iraq? remember palmyra?)

i am pretty sure they do have the ark of the covenant (don't mind the name, it could have been called differently by the real aryan adepts), stored somewhere

indiana jones's ending is just a way to rub it in our faces

>>33303 (O_O)

>There was already pro-jewish sentiment in Persia

there are still living there but do not mix, persians have kept a barrier up so these jews are like lowly ones iirc, nothing like in our kiked societies

they are well treated but israel would conveniently ignore that!

>showing how they've always been willing to support both sides to come out victorious.

perhaps after thousands of years we will finally understand that kikes only care for kikes and perhaps we will mimic them too on this and become selfish instead of caring for all the people of the earth, which the jews force us to do more and more!

>>33310

>martin luther

well well, didn't he try to create a more pleasant form of xtianity in the hopes jews would convert, and only got mad rekt once they gave him the middle finger so he vented out and wrote that book?

yes, that would be the story

i don't like xtian antisemitism because it it's a christian vs judaism trap

>>33442

>Alexander the Great was the best thing that ever happened for them.

didn't alexander make a stop or send someone to the great rabbi of the sanhedrin back then to give them his word that he'd never hurt them??

>>41866

absolutely

these purity signaling xtians wouldn't do usury but let kikes practice on their own grounds! who's gonna collect all the gold when your bible tells you to give everything you have because the real precious is up there? lol what a sad farce

even as xtians, europeans couldn't help but practice forms of magic, which the church naturally objected to because, you know, where's the monopoly on salvation otherwise?

>>96162

kike spotted

>>104681

>>Khazars

>That's been proven as disinformation years ago

>and it's also a fact that only the Khazarian nobility were jews, not the general population

this is self contradictory.

the point of the khazarian theory is that a group of jews emerged in that part of the world and moved west to regroup with other jews who had already settled there before, but who it seems might have been of the more swarthy complexion.

i think i would be a mistake to dismiss the idea that some jews have origins in the khazarian nobility part that was jewish or mamzered.

most important to note with the khazars is that once the jews moved out of the kingdom, it seems the whole thing disappeared…

>>104905

i think you got the ashkenazi and sephardi jews mixed, the swarty one on the left is defo more seph than the middle one, especially since ashkies should be identified as having absorbed a sliver of central european genetics, whereas the sephies absorbed more euro blood in spain…

the bukharan one is very interesting, he has the typical mouse eyes, the beads, with the lower eye lid

ive crossed the path of one of them, a real cunt of epic proportions and extreme nuisance

>>104929

>they still retain a distinct Semitic/Levantine facial type.

they easily tend to have the triangle cranium pointing backward, with their more sloped forehead

sometimes this causes odd mixes resulting in uncanny cranial shapes too

>>105039

not much value in this "info"

>satan

please, get your nose off your torah

>>105838

the topic of phoenicians is complicated because sometimes it's claimed they were whites, some sailed so far beyond the mediterranean sea that they settled in ireland

there's definitely a lot of curly hair in ireland

>>106049

>is a joke.

this post

>>111145

>niggers are 80% chimpanzee alleles and jews are 40% chimpanzee alleles

got some science with that chicken?

>>111148

>like slavery; humans have no use for slavery

this is incorrect and putting criminals to forced labor can be useful too

>>111151

if these maps are based on current populations… ah lol they peddle the same shit about chinese having superior iq

if only you knew how they reach those!

the map about violence in latin america, when compared to the skin tone and rape maps, explain however what is going on

and this is off-topic, perhaps there should be a thread for latin america and the odd mix of euro, nigger and asian blood over there, with all these creaturas

>>111173

>antisemitic flood

not a good theory at all since if we go by the most recent alternative data, the impact was close to greenland and released much melted ice that hit north america and europe harder, at a time when sea levels were like a hundred and some dozens of feet lower

lame and inefficient shitty way to get rid of proto-proto-proto-jews if you'd ask me…

plato also mixed several stories into one, adding his own take on the perfect city that, yet, managed to get screwed

try harder anon

>>111454

with the possibility of a mass of asteroids (tarus cluster) passing through our system and grazing earth over a period of thousands of years, there could have been many meteor strikes here and there, alongside many tales of fiery rocks and falling stars

all these tales recorded events as best as they could but the chronology isn't their forte

>>111479

same for the huge sweeping tides over the chinese deserts

- anyone got a link to the 2 hours long joe rogan video with hancook and the other masonic archeologist? -

>>111497

>UD.KA.DUḪ.A, which literally translated means “The (storm)demon with the wide open mouth”

perhaps the result of the explosion, creating a vast area of darkness linking ground to sky

akin to ragnarokr and fenrir's mouth described as doing something similar

the mouth is a dark place that engulfs and devours in these cases

>>112093

>Don't hate on niggers, or indians for that matter. They come from a very old age, pre-flood age, that's all.

wise words, no point hating people because they are different although you have no obligation to like them, and above all you shall never ever mix your blood with theirs

>The actual problem here is satanists, like the jewish elites. They are controlled by the actual rulers of this world, which are not human.

what the…

>>117509

>the bit about the blood, the pork, scots, brits and jews

horseshit

the author never went there at all, people up there are not that way at all

prolly written by a retardo burger

>>118775

>mathis

for a man who loves to scan all people's words, dates and places of births through gematria, i find that the same method applied to him returns interesting results too

the anti-anti

>>118775

>They could be a mercantile, seafaring superpower which got infiltrated and ruled by kikes.

cosmo, as always, that's how they survive, they soil, they need the blood to be mixed, the identities to become blurred

the method is always the same:

1. migrant influx (back then, slaves)

2. money lending

they go up the social classes and fuck with upper worker class, the nobility, etc.

rarely the warriors though, it seems

>Maybe in it's relatively modern form. I'd go full ancient history tier here and assume that they existed even before the flood

it's possible because i doubt these behavioral traits that sumerians and egyptians already hated in them appeared out of nowhere

they are genetic and genetics take time, at the very least tens of thousands of years to process some changes, unless you artificially reinforce them through certain types of crossbreeding or selective breeding and then it's completed within a few generations at most

>Those "original Jews" probably make up the innermost core of the international Jewry, outer circle kikes (most of them) just being golems and useful idiots for them.

totally possible too

i think the top jews might even see themselves as the true new whites

> We are not only up against these machines, but whatever created them.

those serrano-tier unfunny silly stories aside, i'd wager it's possible that yhwh could be a parasite of some sort, subtle, that planted itself into earth or something like that

pure fiction sure but, perhaps it would explain the overall corruption and the terrible life conditions of most human bodies

imagine that the fucker keeps draining us and for some reason that's why gods and demigods disappears, either having fled or having been drained to exhaustion and death lol

i need to contact my agent

thread defo derailed into /x/

sucks

>>121709

>i think the top jews might even see themselves as the true new whites

Difficult since they are brown but who am I to quibble.

>>121681

>didn't alexander make a stop or send someone to the great rabbi of the sanhedrin back then to give them his word that he'd never hurt them??

Not all aspects of the Josephus account can be considered factual, but the general indication that they betrayed the Persians who'd been very good to for the new rising power is/

>But Sanballatnote thought he had now gotten a proper opportunity to make his attempt, so he renounced Darius, and taking with him seven thousand of his own subjects, he came to Alexander; and finding him beginning the siege of Tyre, he said to him, that he delivered up to him these men, who came out of places under his dominion, and did gladly accept of him for his lord instead of Darius.

> Alexander visits Jerusalem, understands that he owes everything to the God of the Jews, allows them the privilege to live according to their ancestral customs and behaves rather unkind towards the Samarians. If a Jew in the second century BCE were to invent a story, he would write something along these lines.

https://www.livius.org/sources/content/josephus/jewish-antiquities/alexander-the-great-visits-jerusalem/

>>122125

>Not all aspects of the Josephus account can be considered factual

He is jewish. At this point I consider it to be nothing other than a sort of historic framework to which I add the actual facts and reality to as I discover them.He had to cover up his betrayal of Rome as well. It is sort of an overarching theme with jews to stab their allies in the back.

>>122150

What a cuck. A German never would have cucked like the Greeks cuck. Bowing down to maya/the demiurge is always a loosing proposition.

>>122194

Alexander isn’t wrong though. The jews are aliens. They come out and say that they are hybrid with aliens all the time, it is not even hard to find them on the web saying this. This is why the Book of Enoch is so pivotal for humanity IMO. It foretells the end of the occupation of the planet by foreign alien forces aka ‘angels/aliens’.

Nice find on the elephant, saved.

>>122823

Alright i need to read that.

>Plotinus thought the Gnostics, who held that the world was evil, were incurable whiners and complainers and invited them to commit suicide if they hated reality so much.

https://www.academia.edu/22663603/Apocalypse_of_the_Alien_God_by_Dylan_Burns

>>121985

Absolutely not. The Ashkenazim are the large majority and they're damn whiter in skin tone than even some southern Europeans.

Think Rothschild and Soros. I suspect brownskin Jews are even shunned to some degree, not taken seriously. Most destructive Jews today are those who can look like Whites.

>>122150

>there was a mosaic discovered in a synadodue in Galilee that illustrates the meeting

The worrying part being how the Habiru are portrayed as white as Alexander and his troops.

I know nothing of this mosaic so I suspect that it was assembled a long time after the event it depicts, many hundreds of years later.

>>122125

So he went there, yes, but what happened exactly is a matter of debate and unfortunately we only have (((Josephus'))) word here. We could expect Alexander being more concerned about maintaining cohesion in the region and trying to find a middle ground. It was said he promised not to the hurt the Jews but it could very well be a promise he made to any other people who could show some sign of good behaviour.

>>122156

Aside from Communism being conspicuously Jewish in its origins although it reused former more leftist ideas, I think the problem goes back to mankind needing spirituality, so a system that creates a vacuum in this domain will force people, plebe or leaders, to turn to simulacra. Marxian Communism is also heavily prophetic, but from an atheistic and reductionist angle. There is also the need to control symbols and perhaps of certain forces trying to hijack those same symbols for their project of destruction.

Hence the five branched star being ever so present in Communism. Even the sickle and the hammer are noble symbols. You have the worker's tool and the druid's tool. Everything Jews touch becomes corrupt.

>>122194

Elephants are very stylish.

Plenty of oil lamps too.

>Alexander arm across chest paying homage to a High Priest he believes is an Angel?

Excuse me? Looks like he has his hand over his heart.

>>122803

>Cain, with archon blood

>The Enochian literature is Post-Babylonian exile tradition and is a counter narrative to Mesopotamian tradition of interventionist sages

In what way exactly?

>>122821

>pillar

Is there a higher resolution of this picture, or more pictures of this pillar, so we could count the stones vertically?

The real two pillars are clear Aryano-Egyptian.

>>122823

>And then there's this book about sethian gnostics.

Admittedly this requires a lot of clarification and information to be presented in a concise and readable form. Despite anon's best efforts and, no doubt, good will, the information gets dumped here in a mangled form.

>>122827

>>Plotinus thought the Gnostics, who held that the world was evil, were incurable whiners and complainers and invited them to commit suicide if they hated reality so much.

Plotinus did nothing wrong.

Also, could anyone make local PDFs of those academia.edu files please, even if they need to be split in several parts?

Thanks.

I can't help but ask myself…based on the speculation here and the history and sheer scale of the issues and problems involved is there a time when surrender or compromise is the better option.

>>123134

>I think I have come to a point where I can pretty much determine the amount of kike blood in people based on their physiognomy, behavior, worldview and character traits.

Handy.

>>123164

I imagined it. I have been trying to warn people on /pnd/ in the /cvg/ for months. But the mods always delete my comments. COVID is a gene drive anon. They have already done what you thought was to evil to be imagined.

>>123161

>Those who helped the Jews ended up equally ruined by them as those who tried to shoah them.

Fascinating. Pattern recognition. Help them/hinder them; nothing works; you are not the first person to point this out to me; actual jews have pointed out to me that fighting the was the way of death…seems like a Kobayashi Maru. To fight and defeat them would require an equal and opposing force which doesn't currently exist. But maybe Europeans have been going about everything wrong…the dichotomy is not serving us.

>>123443

I really enjoy Jainism, but sometimes they take things too far and get ridiculous. For me, their downfall is in their cult-like food practices.

Vegetarian…totally get this.

Not being able to eat potatoes because you are killing micro bacteria by digging up the potatoes…no. Too far…when religion becomes psychosis. I will pass.

>>122910

>brownness

What are you trying to do with this talk shifting towards some kind of mental brownness? You didn't provide any useful context.

You just said "they are brown". Jews are worse than niggers. They cannot be educated and have an irrepressible need to destroy the Whites. It does not change a thing to the fact that extremely skin-white kikes would easily see themselves as the new worldwide white aristocracy.

>>122943

>>“Incantation. U-Anna, who accomplishes the plans of heaven and earth,U-Anne-dugga, who is endowed with comprehensive understanding, En-medugga, for whom a good destiny has been decreed, Enmegalamma,who was born in a house, Enmebulugga, who grew up in a pasture land,An-Enlilda, the conjurer of the city of Eridu, Utuabzu, who ascended to heaven, the pure purādu-fishes of the sea, the seven of them, the seven sages, who originated in the river, who control the plans of heaven and earth.

Shitty quoting color aside but that's nothing you can do about, this excerpt would very likely refer to the fish-men carrying the satchel of light of civilization.

>>All texts of traditional Mesopotamian scholarly sciences, both practical and theoretical, were secret documents

A part of me really hopes the Jews have not destroyed everything, that some people, somewhere, are still around and kept all the good stuff under wraps.

>>123134

>pic2

That's some text that gets me curious. What does it refer to and what is this source?

>pic3

What chan is this? Is it the /fascist/ one? Wasn't it nixed a few months ago?

>This may be a two way street … Don't forget that nuclear weapons were marginally inspired by Vedic texts.

I wouldn't see how besides the vague references to effects being similar but which could be attributed to meteors.

>Fire works much better than water, hence their archetypal paranoia of "holocaust" .

Fire is harder to manage. The theory is too far fetched. However I have ventured on the side of a similar possibility, which somehow found its way in the Old Testament, with being so much corruption on Earth (racial mixing, decadence, etc.), that it was just easier to say fuck all, deal with this rock now.

>What do you think the Talmud is?

A book that came very late. Why?

>YHWH/Demiurge is archetypal, cosmic Jew.

Demiurge got a bad press because of the Gnostics who kept shitting on reality.

YHWH is just a wannabe god but really is far from being able to even begin to assemble a star system. I think there will be a proper revolution when we will also figure out that the Demiurge did nothing wrong.

>>123161

That they think in twisted ways and as parasites does not undermine the reality of their mental capacities. So I do not understand this rather clumsy attitude in calling them robots. For one I'd find it more apt to call robots the 90% of the white population, these NPCs.

As for the pattern it's quite easy, they either destroy a country by getting in or they use another country to beat the first one into a pulp. All with the power of money and manipulation of scriptures and symbols. You don't even need to go for comics-tier theories.

And could we please try to stick to the topic?

>>123172

That's incorrect. Germany lacked numbers and allies. What Germany suffered from, we're experiencing it everywhere now, with racial mixing on top.

So this is a good thing in a way, Jews can simply not try a lesser gamble. It's all or nothing.

I'm open to mass-genocide. I don't really give a fuck any longer. I'm thinking ahead, what our civilization would be like, very different, on a retooled Earth. I still dream in a positive way but for that I would be a monster to the eyes of most. LOL

>>123716

>I still dream in a positive way but for that I would be a monster to the eyes of most. LOL

Not to me. I have been advocating for a Ethnic European ONLY world for years.

>>123753

>I actually like YHWH quite a bit.

This is understandable since the OT is based on Aryan material they stole too. The God of the OT is far more logical and badass than the faggot praised in the Roman Church.

Jews weren't stupid, they kept the good things to themselves and forced us to drink piss. They do the same with racism: they reject or kill niggers, mixicannots, gooks and sandniggers but force us to be drowned in seas of them.

We need a White Deuteronomy. Period.

But to go back to your appreciation of this god, or at least the description you have of it, the whole of YHWH, if you want to be accurate, covers more than the OT.

The various names or generic descriptors used for him (in the Bible it's just God) notwithstanding, even a lot of the material in the Quran is much more based than what one can find in the NT since it's hard to find a worse book than the NT.

>No government? Check

I doubt there is such a claim considering the tribal organization that requires a hierarchy with its own chiefs. No authority is a anarchist's ridiculous and retarded wet dream.

On the absolute end of this scale, even an empire would be acceptable assuming it served the interests of Whites on all domains of life, and allowed them enough liberties so that you were not chocking in taxes, paper work and stupid little regulations on how to tie your shoe laces that you've never heard of.

I for one find Lane's Precepts absolutely compatible with the idea of a White Pagan Empire.

>No organized religion? Check

You're looking into the OT and you see no organized religion? Where is it specifically formulated that way? A people needs at least one mediator and in the best of times, he's both king and priest. You need qualified people to provide and protect spiritual knowledge. It does not need to be an excruciating scaffolding though. But some form of organization is needed nevertheless, if only to reflect the inner teachings maintained by a few. The only one time when a religious structure won't be necessary will be when White men and women will have reached such a level of enlightenment and perfection that each one of them will be their own initiate and priest. Whether this status can still be attained remains to be seen, such is the challenge ahead of us.

>>124025

>I doubt there is such a claim considering the tribal organization that requires a hierarchy with its own chiefs. No authority is a anarchist's ridiculous and retarded wet dream.

See, this is why I never take any of you guys seriously. You rail against something that you have never taken the time to read or understand. Just because something is not taught by the 'jews' for obvious reasons, doesn't mean it is not in plain sight for everyone to read and understand if they wanted to.

Yeah, anarchy is so 'ridiculous' that the jews are really struggling with it [NOT!!] so much that they own the entire planet while you have nothing. They live by a total anarchy which allows them to operate with total immunity from any law while they saddle you with their own 'imaginative' legal burdens that are IMPOSSIBLE TO BEAR. Now lets all just tuck under like good little children and go back to something that does not follow Natural Law in the slightest and is killing us because following Natural Law is 'stupid'.

>>124033

Christianity the religion is jewish. It was made and codified by Paul the kike and it has nothing to do with Jesus teachings which are all a reference to the laws of YHWH. Jesus and Paul actually taught and thought the diametric opposite of each other.

>>124096

> They live by a total anarchy

No, they don't.

>They live by a total anarchy which allows them to operate with total immunity from any law while they saddle you with their own 'imaginative' legal burdens that are IMPOSSIBLE TO BEAR.

Does not deny the usefulness of a government.

>Now lets all just tuck under like good little children and go back to something that does not follow Natural Law in the slightest and is killing us because following Natural Law is 'stupid'.

Natural Law does not uphold anarchy. It's about order within any species, any race. It's about having the best ones at the top which invariably produces a hierarchy, the only way to manage anything greater than your local school club of two.

>Christianity the religion is jewish. It was made and codified by Paul the kike and it has nothing to do with Jesus teachings which are all a reference to the laws of YHWH.

Those teachings, you would have never heard of them if it weren't for Paul. The teachings are in the bible otherwise you're left with nothing but your imagination. Jesus taught suicidal principles which, in the best of cases, were solely meant for a bunch of other hobo hebes. Why the fuck on Earth would you even care when without the subversion, instead you would still be using pagan principles that would go back as far as legends could tell and not Semitic drivel?

>>124306

>No, they don't.

Yes they do. I have watched them. They would cut each others throat for 15 cents. There is no structure or organization. Each is atomized and individual and they do whatever they please at all times without appealing to any higher reasoning or authority. THEY ARE LIKE A VIRUS.

>Does not deny the usefulness of a government.

Yes, it does. The only purpose of government is to serve itself off those who are too weak to throw off its chains.

>Natural Law does not uphold anarchy

Yes it does. Animals don't 'take a vote' about doing what they want, nor do they have some 'centralized' authority. Each one does what it will when it wants.

>The teachings are in the bible otherwise you're left with nothing but your imagination.

My imagination would have been better than fucking POISON anon.

>>123164

Who is the "Nazi" now, eh? What do you think they are keeping the Mormons and their DNA repositories for? But those are the Zionist kikes, not the Bolshevist kikes. A false dichotomy, but distinctive roles. Team blue (black) and team red.

>>123169

Well, your position is that genes define people entirely and that people can be fully designed. What if Jews edit their offspring to be like Europeans, wouldn't that make them actual Europeans according to your theory? Your own 'flesh and blood' so to speak? :>) The "end of history" that the "progressives" (forces of disintegration) look forward to with religious fervor. But what if history doesn't end, what if it's cyclical? What if all of this has already happened before? What if whites were the "true Jews" at one point, or rather, what if the "true Jews" were 'white' . However, their enemies (The "Amalekites") were white too. Rather confusing, no? Not if one of them were GMO whites and other organic whites. Artificial golems and bearers of the essence, the essence which is impossible to truly copy (decrypt) by purely materialistic means, the only means available to certain creations of a certain "god". Let's say that, hypothetically, a great war or natural disaster happened destroying most of the world and resetting it to very primitive times, depriving both groups of their technologies, the knowledge of which remained exclusive to very small and selective groups. What if one group began deteriorating, gradually reverting to it's "core sequence" (Inserting virus DNA/RNA into those of other species is not really an uncommon practice), while other kept their organic Form and remained connected to their immaterial essence. This deterioration of the former eventually led to the existence of kikes as we know them today. Their viral nature compelling them to engage in certain practices in order to maintain and propagate itself. This should be a very basic function of all lifeforms, no? The key is identifying them properly. Not by which genes they have the most ("human" or 'white'), but the ones which 'drive' the rest (virus). The master sequence. This seems contrary to everything that we know about organic evolution, but not quite if we account for gene editing. Wanting to copy the superior essence, to mimic the 'white gods' as their parody, while mixing the actual essence with animals through miscegenation, dysgenics (incl. mental/spiritual) and genetic engineering so they can be easily enslaved and tortured sounds incredulous, no? No one can be that evil, right? Some people really can't add two and two until they witness it.

Anyway, how could one tell 'whites' apart from whites? Other than tiny hints of physical corruption which only the most keen eyes could notice?

>>123172

>To fight and defeat them would require an equal and opposing force which doesn't currently exist

It does, white people are just mostly disconnected from it. Many by choice.

>But maybe Europeans have been going about everything wrong…the dichotomy is not serving us.

What are you suggesting?

>>123405

>The implication of this is that the Hebrew has set himself in direct opposition to benevolent Heavenly intervention

Rather, any "heavenly" (etheric) intervention. They are aiming for absolute control of the physical world, cutting it off from other frequencies entirely.

>and he would somehow expect all Earthlings to unite in opposition should those pesky Sages ever return

Seems to be a theme uniting pop culture, certain religious narratives and disinfo conspiracy websites. How convenient. Perhaps, it would be better for Enlil and his retinue to intervene this time. Enki didn't have much success, evidently.

>thus we have the doctrine of the demiurge from the whiners and complainers

Demiurge is an inevitable product of technological progress, some people recognizing this one being either criminally evil, or criminally incompetent does not make them "whiners".

> that this is a local planet for local people

Certain sages didn't quite practice what they preached it seems …

>>124433

>Anyway, how could one tell 'whites' apart from whites?

Behavior anon. You cannot mimic nobility.

Nobility might be described as its destroyed and bastardize common ideology 'love' with its dripping obsequiousness at this point. Real Love is nothing of the sort. It is brutal when it needs to be, brilliant and harsh, judgment that cleaves things apart.

>Some people really can't add two and two until they witness it.

I am rather poor with subtle mechanics and subtly in general, honestly.

>What are you suggesting?

Have no idea…I type shit and don't always spend enough time thinking about it. Seat of my pants type of operations at this point.

>Which is that of psychosis. Same is happening with egalitarianism.

What do these two things have in common, then? Or are you suggesting that all things can be taken logically to psychosis? Odd thought.

I would have asked more but I have decided not to speak to you until I understand why I was unfair last time (obviously this 'resolution' worked out well) whatever…it is enough to know that is a possibility at this point and observe so that I can get clarity.

The Jews of Lithuania have an interesting history, and it is particularly well documented. It intertwines with the Polish Jewish history; as the Commonwealth of Poland and Lithuania emerged and was eventually dismembered in 1795. While Jews from these areas claim identity with them, they are distinct from the indigenous ethnic populations in race, culture and spiritually. They existed as a separate nation, within these two nations, and gained wealth, power and influence. They enjoyed special privileges and self autonomy from the start of their invitation to Lithuania and grew rapidly in population. When this ceased, they either fled to other nations, or played victim.

Note that Poland and Lithuania are the origin areas of many religious and social Jewish movements, particularly Hasidism, Misnagdim, and Frankism as well as a hotbed of early Zionist activity. There were famous Yeshivas in Vilnius (Vilna) and this was a major concentration of Shetls and Miasteczko (private settlements) where synagogues and Talmudic learning flourished.They were FREELY allowed to practice their religion, without hindrance. Reverend Justinas Pranaitis who was among the first non-jews to translate the Talmud comes from Lithuania.

Lots of Wikipedia, but use the available source information to lurk further, just building the chronology and specifically addressing the "Special Rights and Privileges" and not any of the local responses to this Privileged group. In short, due to the Catholic restrictions in these nations, the Jews where able to trade freely in Alcohol, Usury and where subject to different taxes and trade regulations. The Nobility saw them as a loophole to gain economic advantage and acquire wealth. They where not subject to military conscription either, in nations that where attacked from all sides. Notably, they had their own judicial and legislative apparatus, separate from the nations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Lithuania

In 1387 Pagan Lithuania is Christianized after centuries of assault and crusade from the Orthodox east and Catholic west.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianization_of_Lithuania

The Charter of 1388: Genesis

In 1388 Grand Duke Vytautas granted privileges to the Jews of Trakai(Then capital of the Duchy) on June 24, 1388. Later similar privileges were granted to the Jews of Brest (July 1, 1388), Grodno (1389), Lutsk, Vladimir, and other large towns within the Grand Duchy of Poland. They are invited in order to increase trade and to bolster the goods available by bringing their trade skills.

In 1569 the Union of Lubin is signed officially uniting Poland and Lithuania as a commonwealth. This allows less restricted movement and settlement between the two duchies, allowing the communities to expand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Lublin

CRITICAL: As early as 1560 the "Council of the 4 lands" is established. This is de facto an independent legislative body allowing the Jewish community to govern itself. In 1764 the Polish Diet ordered it's closing due to a "Failure" to collect taxes. With this established and the other rights granted, the Jewish Community of Poland and Lithuania at this time effectively governed itself completely independently. This regime remained in-tact until the final partition of Poland and Lithuania in 1795.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Four_Lands

They had private towns and settlements. In particular Miasteczko have "Town Rights" similar to the Hanseatic format.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shtetl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miasteczko

I'll propose the hypothesis that this "Council" system never ended, and evolved into something else. Given it predates the "Judenstaat" proposal by nearly 100 years, it is the potential origin of the "Protocols".

A concise list of When, Where and What of all these historical privileges, and the eventual local reactions, would be a groundbreaking historical work. Great thread!

>>124556

I wonder if cities like London, Vatican, Washington, Venice etc. and other extra-territorial zones partially exempt from certain laws went through something similar. You are on a good track anon.

>>124322

>Yes they do. I have watched them. They would cut each others throat for 15 cents. There is no structure or organization. Each is atomized and individual and they do whatever they please at all times without appealing to any higher reasoning or authority. THEY ARE LIKE A VIRUS.

Check your optics then, you're literally full of shit. Jews are perhaps the most organized racial group today and this alone explains the iron grip they have on our societies.

>Yes, it does. The only purpose of government is to serve itself off those who are too weak to throw off its chains.

No, it's not its purpose. You're using a definition that is entirely based on the corrupt Jewish ZOG.

>Yes it does. Animals don't 'take a vote' about doing what they want, nor do they have some 'centralized' authority. Each one does what it will when it wants.

You retard, animals who move around in groups have literally innate rules for determining who is best suited to lead the pack/herd.

>My imagination would have been better than fucking POISON anon.

You're not even consistent with your former post and I don't care what kind of cherry picking you apply to the Bible to come up with the bs you typed a few posts up.

>>124433

>Demiurge is an inevitable product of technological progress, some people recognizing this one being either criminally evil, or criminally incompetent does not make them "whiners".

If "Demiurge" is this, then thanks, let technological progress come and evolve to the point we can create universes too.

Mirror of the Polish Crown (Polish: Zwierciadło Korony Polskiej) (full title Mirror of the Polish Crown expressing the profound insults and great anxieties it receives from the Jews) is an antisemitic pamphlet published in 1618 by Sebastian Miczyński, professor of philosophy at Cracow Jagellonian University. Because this pamphlet was one of the causes of the anti-Jewish riots in Cracow, it was censored by Sigismund III Vasa. , further to a petition from local Jews to the Polish crown. Despite this, the book run through numerous reprints.

In this pamphlet Jews were accused with political treachery, robbery, swindling, murder, witchcraft, and sacrilege; however religious accusations are of secondary importance. The pamphlet mainly focuses on the economic activities of the Jews and advocates the expulsion of the Jews from Poland.

>>124469

>I think that anon wanted to say how race is more than just a skin color

Huh really? I would have never guessed. Perhaps this anon could lurk two more years before thinking in platitudes then.

>Those exist, they are just quite hard to reach by conventional means

Yeah well what proof?

>Occam's razor won't resolve this I'm afraid. If there really is a grand conspiracy, then we may assume that it would be made complex and convoluted enough to avoid detection by simple deduction or "common sense". Rather, we need to be as far fetched as possible on this one.

No, what is too far fetched is the idea that this great flood was organized for the sole purpose of destroying the Jews when we see, on the contrary, that it would have hit White lands first, including potential Doggerland/"Thule". Not to say that if one group of people were capable of bringing about such catastrophic events, you would expect them to be able to organize an equally great project that would have well preserved white aryanhood.

What I can accept, though, is a similar theory where in desperate need of a final solution in the hope to level the play field, some people arranged through very unconventional means for the arrival of impactors.

But if this was achieved without the help anything remotely close to palatable technology as usually projected in the less exotic forms of cultural science fiction, then we're entering the domain of überfringe shit with summoning rocks, arranging for certain influential forces to, say, re-orient a whole curtain of rocks from the outer rim of this system, to enter its core and hit Earth over several centuries or millennia.

Meaning that this great war has been going for tens of thousands of years and we were not even winning.

>Revolution against whom? [hisguys] pretty much run the world.

More like against what.

But on a strictly prosaic ground, let's identify the larger target as: The chief, the minions, the traitors and the invaders.

>>124798

>But behavior is entirely genetic, no?

I can't decide if you are mocking me or serious.

>You either draw the lines, or not.

I think we all draw the lines here. So the agenda is a blurred distinction of reality or distortion of perception to the point where perception is meaningless. I am ambivalent about this. It is not conducive to Life…but other than this I have no legitimate criticism of it at this point in time.

>If they are built upon 'sand' , yes.

By sand I can assume you mean change or dynamic change within the physical realm.

So the argument you are proposing is one of rigidity vs fluidity. They are operating in the fluid systems model and you are operating as 'rock' in the frozen permanence model?

Fire and Ice.

>>124838

>Jews are perhaps the most organized racial group today

Bullshit anon. That is why they win because there is no actual organization outside of what is emergent. Even emergent behavior has structure to it.

>entirely based on the corrupt Jewish ZOG.

All government is jewish. There is no other form of mind control.

>innate rules for determining who is best suited to lead the pack/herd.

The animals that are pack or herd are nothing at all like human society. I can tell you have never watched herd animals in your life. You are entirely full of bullshit anon.

>You're not even consistent with your former post and I don't care what kind of cherry picking you apply to the Bible to come up with the bs you typed a few posts up.

Just come out and say that you are a jew anon. Fuck, everyone can see that you have a jew leader and have sworn yourself to your liege Jew Paul of Tarsus (gates of Hell).

>>124556

And you can take into account the convenient regrouping of Jews, in a large area that was part of Eastern Poland and beyond, under the augur of king Kazimierz III, in a very active trade region, "fleeing" the fast spreading Black Plague they surely had nothing to do with. It is quite remarkable how the place which they had regrouped to managed to be rather well spared from the bubonic plague.

So, going from there, they push for more (vassalized) Church presence, which without any surprise, results in Jews obtaining advantages. After a clear attempt at killing as many Whites as possible, they also start organizing for the great phase of their long-term messianic project.

>>124852

>Bullshit anon. That is why they win because there is no actual organization outside of what is emergent. Even emergent behavior has structure to it.

What is that shit about "emergent"? They have numerous heavy front organizations that collaborate with each other, they organize every year to spread their influence and have more rabbis present in every city. They have a whole country built from the basis of a long-time organization, which owes a lot to a considerable financial organization.

Nobody said they all acted as one super hivemind.

>All government is jewish.

Obviously not. Starting with the Third Reich, or any government that was pagan and had no semitic brain fuckery going on at the higher levels.

You're pushing for a blackpill. Stop with it.

>The animals that are pack or herd are nothing at all like human society.

Quite the contrary and you used animals thinking it supported your argument, but it didn't. Now you're saying animals and humans are not the same, essentially making your comparison entirely null.

>I can tell you have never watched herd animals in your life. You are entirely full of bullshit anon.

No you are the one full of bs. Any one hour in front of a tv documentary on animals living in groups, like roaming packs, will prove me right.

Starting with, often enough, the existence of alphas. Their models remain relatively simple because they're simple animals. But this lack of complexity also means they will never build ships and castles.

>Just come out and say that you are a jew anon. Fuck, everyone can see that you have a jew leader and have sworn yourself to your liege Jew Paul of Tarsus (gates of Hell).

You're just too stupid to even read properly. I precisely denounced Paul, you two-neurons moron.

>>124798

>Thought pattern. Niggers are people too, animals are people too, bacteria are people too, all life is sacred, you should do no harm, we are all one … You either draw the lines, or not. And it's not the opposite of that either, if it was only that simple

Two groups of different animals killing each other hardly stops one of these two groups from being one of animals. You can have one group that is more clever than the other too.

>>124854

>tv documentary on animals

Holy shit. Go back to tv anon. This has nothing to do with real life. I understand where you are coming from now.

>>124798

>it's about our laws being different from theirs.

I would like an example of a few of these laws so that I can evaluate them and take them to their logical conclusion.

Thank you anon.

>>124943

The names of the four yugas of time—Satya, Treta, Dvapara and Kali—are named after "dice throws" from a game of dice popular during the Vedic period. Their order coincides with the favorability of each throw: Satya is the best throw, whereas Kali is considered the worst. During the Mahabharata, king Nala exorcises the disembodied spirit of Kali to a vibhīdaka tree (Terminalia belerica), whose fruits contain nuts which were used as the dice for the vedic dice game. Therefore, not only Kali's name, but his penchant for gambling and reputation as being evil comes from this dice game

https://www.academia.edu/1538456/The_Ancient_Vedic_Dice_Game_and_the_Names_of_the_Four_World_Ages_in_Hinduism._1989

>>124942

You never observed nature; you haven't a fucking clue. You watched someone else observing and selecting the information that they wanted you to observe. It is ridiculous for you to maintain that you have some knowledge in this situation.

>>125334

The Seven sages are conflated with the philosophy of the Seven planetary archetypes they taught, in the Sethian tradition these are the Archons or craftsmen, the Sumerian term for a scholar that was a descendant of the sages was Um-mani/craftsmen.

>Yaldabaoth creates a material world in imitation of the divine Pleroma. To complete this task, he spawns a group of entities known collectively as Archons, "petty rulers" and craftsmen of the physical world.

Because Planetary archetypes can be seen in terms of positive/negative, both good and evil in relative terms, then the teaching of these has also become conflated with evil in the Sethian mindset.

>A characteristic feature of the Gnostic concept of the universe is the role played in almost all Gnostic systems by the seven world-creating archons, known as the Hebdomad (ἑβδομάς). These Seven are in most systems semi-hostile powers, and are reckoned as the last and lowest emanations of the Godhead; below them—and frequently considered as proceeding from them—comes the world of the actually devilish powers.

Thus the seven sage tradition for the Hebrew becomes the introduction of all evil, the Fall.

>in Gnosticism they became the demonic rulers of the material world, each associated with a different celestial sphere.As rulers over the material world, they are called ἄρχοντες (archontes, "principalities", or "rulers").

>>125406

Of course the Goddess Nazi is a socialist and strives towards the ideal society and of course the natural inclinations of white women are subverted by those against all that is beautiful and also of course her entire system of values during the Age of her sign Pisces was adopted by Christianity

Nazi is she whom they hate the most and the sages only ever represented her cult, and ironically those who profess to hate Nazi's the most are the one's who believe in her values, such is subversion.

>Nunpiriggal, the builder, the apkallu of Enmerkar, who brought down Istar from heaven into Eanna.

>[After the flood?], during the reign of king Enmerkar, Nungalpiriggal was the apkallu, [he who] brought down Istar from heaven into the Eanna temple.

>>125629

>it would be refreshing

Not for me. The argument is retarded. Yes you might be able to point to one or two species or lifeforms in the world but to draw a correlation from that tiny sample to a method for governing humans would be close to retarded. Humans are far more complex with different needs and social structure (non imposed) than animals. I know you furry wannabes see some value in 'pretending you are wolves' but it does nothing for me. Furthermore to anthropomorphize animals and base your social structure on what you perceive their impulses and reason is again RETARDED. If you want to draw some sort of 'correlation' about natural law then don't fucking 'pick and chose' 'muh wolves'…fucking take an accurate sample of ALL LIFE on the planet and it social structure to come to some conclusion.

I AM SO FUCKING TIRED OF THIS BULLSHIT

>>124838

>to the point we can create universes too

Do you really think it would let you do that? Maybe if you ask nicely? Communism doesn't work in the immaterial domain either.

>>124846

>Yeah well what proof?

Well, you did come this far, no? When you learn to tune into certain frequencies, proper ideas come to you. [ourguys] at the highest level are immortal and ethereal.

>Not to say that if one group of people were capable of bringing about such catastrophic events, you would expect them to be able to organize an equally great project that would have well preserved white aryanhood

Unless it was mutually assured destruction…

>What I can accept, though, is a similar theory where in desperate need of a final solution

This is very likely as well. I mean, today's world has almost reached a state where you could go full exterminatus on it and nothing of value would be lost. In fact, biblical tier apocalypse would be preferred to the (((future))) they have prepared. These disgusting prototypes were an utter failure. And it's not the first time it happens either.

>But if this was achieved without the help anything remotely close to palatable technology

Or a different type of technology.

>Meaning that this great war has been going for tens of thousands of years

"Humanity" did seem to 'evolve' rather unusually fast compared to other species, no?

>The chief, the minions, the traitors and the invaders.

Got some suggestions?

>>124850

>I can't decide if you are mocking me or serious.

Mockingly teasing, not mocking as in making a fun of. But let's get serious.

>I think we all draw the lines here.

Do you? Can you even define "Life" , let alone what's conductive to it? Do you realize that according to the position which you have adopted, your car is as alive as you are? It's animated by a source of energy, it's an organism of sorts (an object separate from the environment, all those parts performing different, coordinated functions for the totality of "car" to perform it's purpose as a whole), it even has feelings! I mean, all those sensors, you should really be more considerate before you call it a piece of junk the next time. One may argue that's it's not autonomous, that it needs someone to drive it, but aren't we all 100% driven by our genes and mechanistic laws of determinism? And let's not get into the subject of self-driving cars. Then we get into the subject of consciousness, but that one is far more tricky than it seems. I remember reading about some arrested development in children where a certain part of their brain fails to develop in time so they keep recognizing their dolls as real, actual people long after it's normal. This kind of cognitive impairment is common for SJW's , they keep extending that to subhumans, animals etc. Although I have seen it develop in people who used to be perfectly healthy due to faulty logic (or their brains being fried by drugs in some cases) as well. But let's not go off-topic too much.

>By sand I can assume you mean change or dynamic change within the physical realm.

I mean building your entire worldview on buzzwords and ambiguously defined phenomena without addressing the noumena. Something that can easily be shifted or redefined. They should beware of quicksand of post-structuralism.

>They are operating in the fluid systems model and you are operating as 'rock' in the frozen permanence model?

Sort of, at the root level, they are interdependent with the system and it's integral part while I move from one frozen superstate (system) to another ;) I'll let you compare the two and make certain mathematical deductions.

>Fire and Ice.

Both are based on Movement, or the lack of it.

>>124852

>That is why they win because there is no actual organization outside of what is emergent.

One does not exclude another. They are not a naturally emerging phenomenon however, they are a product of a certain will, a will that's not theirs (Not that they have any to begin with). They are also very organized, how could they plan that much ahead otherwise? Organisation's capacity to make plans is directly proportional to it's cohesion and organizational efficiency. It would be better to observe them like an insect colony than mammals though.

>They have numerous heavy front organizations that collaborate with each other, they organize every year to spread their influence and have more rabbis present in every city.

It's an algorithm.

>>124856

It's not only about killing or about intelligence. It's about tiers of consciousness and tiers of quality. Killing a cow is practically not killing because one cow is almost identical in consciousness to another and there is still countless of them remaining. It's as if there wasn't anything there to kill in the first place, unless you define killing solely as termination of life function. Meanwhile, killing a highly developed, actual person (rare) is bad in most instances. Not when it comes to most NPC's, however, it's more bad than killing an animal, just as killing an animal is more bad than killing a plant. TL;DR: The more advanced a being is, the more reasons you need to have to hurt it, and the opposite, the less advanced (and unique) it is, the more indifferent you can be towards it. It's neither universal morality nor universal amorality, but selective morality, however the one based on proper criteria. How do we set these criteria however, is a subject of it's own.

>>124893

See early Aryan societies, I've posted some excerpts here already. Aristocracy.

>>124943

Those quarters have more to do with certain mathematical functions (which define reality, including it's "heavenly" parts and how to reach them)

>i desire to find their basis of ancient theology on which hindus based whole enlightenment (as not-being) and uniting with a god thing

That's a later corruption, original Aryan philosophy was ascendancy as an unique god rather than (((uniting))) with "god" , that's the very dissolution that kikes and their judeo-masonic pets are aiming for today

>>125383

You are starting to conflate completely unrelated things now. Gnosticism wasn't exclusively Sethian, nor were they the source of it. And Judaism stands in stark contrast to Gnosticism.

>>125406

Kek. I wonder what kept making those once once great civilizations browner and browner until they ceased existing. Another proof of history repeating itself and certain inclinations being archetypal.

>>125416

If it's so easy to subvert, and if it always brought ruin, maybe it's time to get rid of it completely? (Along with those promoting it) I mean, you are practically confirming my findings expressed earlier in this thread, but still going the Enki (archetypal SJW cuck) route (which was absolute disaster since the very beginning) rather than going the Enlil/Ninurta (archetypal aristocratic Chad) route and start 'shattering some mountains', which proved super effective. Why? We are coming back to the original Aryan schism, when a bunch of proto-kike inspired proto-SJW 'progressives' started shilling for universalism and oneness, but got rightfully beaten and exiled by the fire worshiping Aryan tribalists led by Angirasas, who were the true sages of the Vedas. >>118775

What's your reasoning behind this choice? (If we assume that you are not you know who). It's literally turning the other cheek and loving thy enemies tier.

>>125658

>Do you?

In total honesty, no.

>Can you even define "Life"

Yes, vector imbalance resolving to a state of entropy (achieving balance). It is a perturbation in the same way sex (rythmic thrusting to make waves) is a perturbation (or the deviation of a celestial body) lol.

Noumena…the cutting device.

>your car is as alive as you are?

My car is disturbed by my cutting. But this does not make it a 'cutter'. I cut because I observe (somehow 'cut' is the wrong word; the right word may not occur in English or I am tired; cut; parse; divide all are missing the essence of what I am trying to express).

>aren't we all 100% driven by our genes and mechanistic laws of determinism

oh no, he is picking on my Determinism again…nooooooooo make it stop…hahahaha

>Sort of, at the root level, they are interdependent with the system and it's integral part while I move from one frozen superstate (system) to another ;) I'll let you compare the two and make certain mathematical deductions.

If this is true I must be like kicking a hive of bees eternally. No sooner has the bee been kicked when I have kicked it again.

All they want is entropy and I just can't stop kicking them ("take that ye foul bastards"). It is a good thing they don't get resentful, eh? I don't like the idea of being locked in superstate. Who will I kick then? Alas, my bee kicking days will be over.

>It would be better to observe them like an insect colony than mammals though.

Oh look…more insect references.

>they are a product of a certain will, a will that's not theirs (Not that they have any to begin with)

The implication being that I have willed the poor fucks into existence through repeatedly kicking them makes me seem, perhaps in a vindictive manner, like a person who really would call my car a piece of junk (when its not…it has supple stitched dead cow in a lovely cream and fine appointments on its interior).

I dare say, this is the most complimentary you have ever been to me anon. One minute I am kicking bees and the next minute I am imparting unreasonable amounts of character to inanimate objects like the perfect SJW, and insanely blathering to dolls.

<Maybe he just hoped she would come to her senses.>

How amusing this must all be to someone on the outside.

>It is an algorithm

Sort of like the famous curves of fractal mathematics. Time limit as well? One can only kick so many bees before they are all in motion and while not alive, have certainly caused enough perturbation in the fabric to produce an instability…(I think; maybe; maybe not; I haven't extrapolated that out). I will be sure to kick a few bees on my way to go rest on my prodigious SJW laurels.

>>125670

>Gnosticism wasn't exclusively Sethian, nor were they the source of it. And Judaism stands in stark contrast to Gnosticism.

I haven't said either of those things, but Gnosticism is entirely a product of Hellenistic Judaism and the Judeo-Masonic the continuation of it, the insane doctrine of Global-Homo

>>125383

>>Yaldabaoth creates a material world in imitation of the divine Pleroma.

Is there a proper and detailed explanation of what this "divine Pleroma" exactly entails so a honest comparison could actually be made?

>>125398

They etymology of Asarluhi would be most interesting.

Asr (root?), Asar…

Luhi, or perhaps Lu -hi or Luh with a declination form.

>>125406

>>goddess of social justice

>>took in refugees from war torn areas

Women…

>>125636

>Not for me. The argument is retarded. Yes you might be able to point to one or two species or lifeforms in the world but to draw a correlation from that tiny sample to a method for governing humans would be close to retarded.

Animals forming social groups always present a hierarchy.

>Humans are far more complex with different needs and social structure (non imposed) than animals.

You are the one who used animals as an argument, not me, equaling hierarchy with voting, or more precisely claiming anarchy where there was a lack of voting in animals, as stupid as your claim could be.

For one, ants do vote either. Or do they now?

(>>124322)

Anyway, have you even begun to think about it? A more complex system certainly requires a greater form of organization, lest it collapses. How the hell could this prove the lack of a need for hierarchy and forms of government? It does not.

You talk about observing nature, which you have seldom done just as you have totally forgotten human history too: we always organize and form hierarchies. The few fuckwits who go inawoods to live like recluses don't count. The minimal form of government we saw in groups of humans was that of a clan or tribe. Nothing goes below that level on the long term, and these modes do not allow for the growth of greater civilizations. Even a "tribe" has to espouse more elevated forms of organization to manage over greater territories as it grows in size. Also, often, several tribes would come together to summon a greater leader when a greater need of organization was needed, notably in times of conflict.

> I know you furry wannabes see some value in 'pretending you are wolves' but it does nothing for me.

The f- ? What??

OK. Stop sperging, you absolute cretin.

>Furthermore to anthropomorphize animals and base your social structure on what you perceive their impulses and reason is again RETARDED.

Sure, because humans do certainly not have their own rules and rites to see who is the most apt to lead a more or less large group. We never had chieftains, mayors, kings, archbishops, etc.

> If you want to draw some sort of 'correlation' about natural law then don't fucking 'pick and chose' 'muh wolves'…fucking take an accurate sample of ALL LIFE on the planet and it social structure to come to some conclusion.

Or what about actually taking an average, seeing that the human life form stands between extremely individualistic beings and eusocial ones?

Why should I refer to all life forms when some of them would just not organize they way we do, but those that are mammalian and form groups clearly show a basic understanding of hierarchy as some specimens submit to the authority of an alpha and, therefore, clearly do not do what they will when they want because they know how not to cross a certain line?

And last but not least, why should I do this when you were the ones picking on animals as an example?

All this shit so you could equal Jews with a fucking virus so as to utterly deny the fact that they organize just like we do, but solely for their own interests. All that so you can claim like a cunt of the lowest pedigree that they operate through "total anarchy" (your words), which just proves how much you need to get your head out of your butthole and need to learn a thing or two about Jews.

>>125866

>In the sources that date to the Early Dynastic period only the name form Asar appears for the deity studied in this thesis. The name Asar is written with the composite cuneiform sign URU×IGI. The basic meaning for the sign URU is “city” and for the sign IGI, “eye”.

The later addition of luh-hi may relate to washing/luh and mixing/hi in his capacity of shamanic exorcist according to this.

https://dspace.ut.ee/bitstream/handle/10062/65359/johandi_andreas.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

>>125658

>Do you really think it would let you do that? Maybe if you ask nicely? Communism doesn't work in the immaterial domain either.

Why assume it's evil to begin with? Maybe it's both good and evil and remains in fact fairly neutral in all of this?

>Well, you did come this far, no? When you learn to tune into certain frequencies, proper ideas come to you. [ourguys] at the highest level are immortal and ethereal.

Thanks for the tip. I don't need "ideas", I need solid facts. Pie in the sky tales won't satisfy me. I'm looking for evidence of real people trying to do something tangible here, that can be observed, not doing shit "elsewhere" or from another realm that you can reach only with some secret cable.

>Unless it was mutually assured destruction…

That's what I'm saying.

>where you could go full exterminatus

Please don't exalt me. :3

>"Humanity" did seem to 'evolve' rather unusually fast compared to other species, no?

As far as I look, White man is an anomaly. On the so called tree of evolution we literally stick out like a sore thumb. I'm not Gnostic (we be stuff of light buh got trapped), I think in terms of willful incarnation so as to experience, feel and fight. To me this is a Game, not a prison. But for the immersion to be complete, memory hole is a necessary condition.

Like a supreme VR.

>Got some suggestions?

We fight in ways which were never tried by anyone before.

And that's why we will succeed.

>>125658

>One may argue that's it's not autonomous, that it needs someone to drive it, but aren't we all 100% driven by our genes and mechanistic laws of determinism?

Spirit drives soul drives body.

Mechas of flesh.

Japs be mad.

>>125658

>It's an algorithm.

All is then, Great Mathematician and all that.

Even your Self is just a big bunch of data in a huge database, given logical ways to operate.

So it's pointless to try to reduce Jews to 0 and 1 doing shitty things when we're in the same boat.

>>125879

It's just Orcish Theology, if you eat everyone else you become the biggest and the best, they simply aligned themselves absolutely to the principle of growth and expansion, but the Moon is somewhat cyclic in terms of fullness so later doctrine concerned itself with the entire Universe.

>>125670

>How do we set these criteria however, is a subject of it's own

I don't recognize any of these criteria and they are not written in stone.

The only limits are relative to our empathy and needs, in large derived from our feels and survivalist strategy. And also a taste for construction and destruction. I have not seen any solid evidence that, say, exterminating two billion humans just because you can (why not?) would bring you bad karma or anything similar.

So if such evidence exists, let it be seen! Imagine being an empire builder on one hand and fierce exterminator on the other. What in the universe could ever match that? What could bring you more renown?

>>125825

>The point is to revolt against this world, stop caring about your worldly life or even desire happy afterlife because even that is still selfish survival instinct and understand you're the universe itself.

And this is the most poisonous and subversive advisement someone could cast. You're like 2500 years late, kike.

>>125850

More importantly, all this comfort is only of value if the proper requirements are met. There is no peace worth its salt if there are no men of valor to protect it. Empathy should not extend beyond one's endo-group.

Subverting empathy happens when:

1. We start caring for all people: inclusion.

2. When we move beyond that and care more about the others than ourselves: suicide.

Therefore, care is acceptable if confined by the impregnable barrier of the holy war for one's kin's preservation; this ranging from a good spirituality to health to ecology and a controlled economy that serves the people. We are currently a far, far cry from achieving any of that.

The Germans came very close to it though. They set a new model which we must pursue.

>>125867

>4th pic

It's very focused so we don't see the tightening that occurs that will be followed by a dilation. Ergo the frequency will lower. As for the magnitude, it's perhaps of an another curve as if one could consider that we reached the lowest point today, with no moral values to follow, no real spirituality, with racial destruction, excessive materialism and wholesale ignorance, all with terrible lifespans, damaged lands, etc., on the exact other end stands something akin to a Golden Age.

All in all, this is very physical. The law of gravity dictates what is going on. We naturally accelerate towards the lowest point on the circle, we cross this point very fast and start climbing the other side of the cycle. As we do so, we slow down. The tip will be a long era.

It's a theme park: we wuz coastin'…

>>125876

>This then led to the premise that the generating Moon was a soul collective of those consumed by Khonsu including other Gods such that he became God of Gods, that the third aspect of Djehuty (Thoth) was that of the archived and conserved accumulated knowledge and wisdom within the Moon.

Now that is interesting. Please note, to be prosaic, that our current moon is always looking in our direction and is the largest of the seven seals.

Like anything, it can be subverted the moment totality is equaled with oneness, with the loss of differentiation and barriers.

The only one condition wherein you could find something akin to unity all over the world would be with a complete and undisputed racial empire with no remnants of competitors.

On this, a lot could be said about what the Jews want to achieve through the cosmopolitan NWO, when yet, all this is done for their own and only race. But limited by their nature, they could never exist without other races, and above all without the Whites to suck the life force out of.

The moon as a repository of sacred knowledge and common experience isn't a bad thing in itself. The Egyptian culture made use of the lunar calendar, with all this entails in terms of numerology too.

>Thus the Pleroma concept in Judaism is that of Yah-Khonsu-Thoth and the Moon the symbol of such, involving the assimilation of all peoples and Gods, a concern with growth and expansion towards the singularity.

This singularity. The (subverted) Mormons are already working on an aspect of this with their database.

Meanwhile the city of machines grows close to the Red Sea.

>>125890

>>White man is an anomaly.

>Is this how highly you think of yourself?

Drop the preaching. In terms of probabilities, it's called that. Or an outlier if your wish.

>You think all white men share your ideals and intelligence and that's why you're so brilliant?

Do you?

>People here are very enclosed small circle of believers in their idea.

Niche inception.

Plebes are bio-computers. At some point, some greater men and women must be convinced that their beliefs and visions represent what is best for the people, not exactly because they care about NPCs, but because they know that not all apparent NPCs totally are and some are true beings with greater potential. And the universe exists for these greater beings. The miasma is only a matter to use, shape and which something can be extracted from. It must be preserved because it guarantees the rise of higher quality individuals. The universe doesn't exist for the insipid.

>>125930

Their tradition then is entirely based in magical practise rather than pious belief, in that you generate the idea of the collective in terms of myths and legends to formulate Israel, then radically align that to the principle of growth through the assimilation of the other, and it all becomes about not only increase in flocks, descendants, wealth but cultic and ideological primacy, they didn't invent the Moon God associations but rigorously applied them, of course there is no actual evidence that the entire Mesopotamian Pantheon now resides in the ever hungry belly of Yah, their religion is on the level of a curious children's story, but it consumes hearts and minds.

Closely related to this was the tradition of Aeon in that region, and in Sethianism, were the cyclic is recognized and looks to regenerate across the ages, yearly and in terms of the Zodiac age.

>The word aeon originally meant "life", "vital force" or "being", "generation" or "a period of time", though it tended to be translated as "age" in the sense of "ages", "forever", "timeless" or "for eternity".

>They carry the statue in a circle seven times around the very center of the temple to the accompaniment of flutes,kettledrums, and hymns and thus reveling carry it back down to the place underground. Asked what the rite means, they say: Today at this hour Core (meaning the virgin) engendered Aeon.

>This is also done in the city of Petra in the temple of the idol there. They sing hymns to the virgin in Arabic, calling her in Arabic“Chaamu”, which means Core or “virgin”,and the one born from her “Du sares”…The rite is also performed in the city of Elusa on that night as in Petra and Alexandria…

https://www.academia.edu/37336722/The_many_faces_of_Dushara_A_Critical_Review_of_the_Evidence_SHAJ_XII_2016_189-209

>After so many hours, the first light, the Morning Star, and the rising of the sun announces the birth and the epiphany of Dushara, indicated also by revealing the betyl, which then is carried seven times in a circumambulation aroundthe temple to be presented to all worshippers

>The temple of Venus in Elusa andthe festivals around this temple were famous in the Roman period. The sources are important in supporting the assumption that Al-‘Uzzā was the local supreme deity in Elusa and was connected to the birth of Dushara in the winter solstice festival. The Quraysh used to circumambulate the Ka‘bah and say by al-Lāt and al-ʻUzzā and al-Manāt

The cult of the crescent Moon was closely associated with the Venus Goddess, the Sumerians had this as Lamastu rather than Inanna, the dark side of Venus.

The aim in deconstructing Judaism is to make sure the Aeon we have entered into is ours, claim the Moon towards the greater glory of /pol/ because it's fun, though it is causing a certain disturbance in the Aether.

>>125753

>In total honesty, no.

There is no "cutter" then (and no cake for you either). You become just another part in the chain of machinery. You are driving your car, your genes (and resulting neuro-psychological development, along with imprinted data and the quality of it's structure) are driving you, laws of physics, environmental factors etc. were/are driving your genes, so on and so forth. There is no (you).

>Yes, vector imbalance resolving to a state of entropy (achieving balance)

What caused the imbalance then? If entropy is the perfect balance, how come imbalance happened in the first place? No such thing can happen in a closed system. There are about 3 possible scenarios here ;) And they are all true simultaneously, from their own frame of reference.

>oh no, he is picking on my Determinism again…

I'm picking on your logical inconsistencies and showing you the logical conclusion of your erroneous positions. Yes, hoping that you would come to your senses.

>If this is true I must be like kicking a hive of bees eternally

I was talking about the great majority of "people" in general, not just a certain humanoid shaped virus. People do have a tendency to take a path of least resistance. Bad statistical habits and all that.

>I don't like the idea of being locked in superstate

Quite the opposite, but I'll let you do your homework first.

>Oh look…more insect references.

Jews are more like termites than bees, bees are noble creatures.

>The implication being that I have willed the poor fucks into existence

Still didn't grow out of solipsism? I mean, you are supposedly 20 years older than me and I feel like it's the opposite.

>I am imparting unreasonable amounts of character to inanimate objects like the perfect SJW

Well, some dolls have batteries and can move and make sounds, those are totally people though. We must fight for doll rights and stop their oppression at the hands of white babies. Some of them are even made with sensors and microphones, meaning that they have feelings, meaning it's morally wrong to throw them into junk or destroy them. Doll and termite lives matter! You know what, I was thinking about pulling the same trick with machines that kikes did with niggers and other animals, keep giving them more and more rights until they exterminate the kikes and their "liberated" mongrel "diversified humanity". What a stanza of poetic justice would that be! It's not like the social justice, "secular humanist" and universalist religious types could tell the difference in the first place. It moves = it's life = we must preserve it and improve it by all means. Or go the "bio" route and create an abomination even worse than them. We can play that game as well. And nothing beats Aryan creativity, right?

>How amusing this must all be to someone on the outside.

We are threading close to one anon starting to sperg out at us again

>Sort of like the famous curves of fractal mathematics.

Oh no, nothing nearly as complex as that. Just the control maximizing algorithm that relies heavily on data-sets and their relations. I mean, a mediocre programmer could literally create the "Jew" script. It took a superinteligence to make it capable of affecting organic (genuine) life to such a degree though. It's hard for me to decide is that superintelligence just a highly developed instance of the similar script (cycles within cycles and all that), or a rogue Aryan who wanted to play a practical joke on the rest. Anyway, any future "AI" scientist should use them and their behavioral models as an inspiration. You know, using that compass that masons like so much ;) I think their "god" would be most proud of them. What other anon is doing from the religious perspective, deconstructing their beliefs and culture, could be extended to deconstruct their psyche and the very code that it runs their neanderthal mongrel virus DNA laced husks. Then perhaps, another anon could deconstruct it from a genetic perspective. Then we'd have the full blueprint. Perhaps consulting their maintenance manual, the Talmud, wouldn't hurt either.

>>125825

>The reason why people think this world is logical

Universal framework (mathematics, but ALL of it)

>and fits into their criteria of justice and inner moral law

Not necessarily. NPC's mostly do because they are it's integral part, like the waves in the same sea. Did it ever occur to you to keep encountering the same "types" of people? They are different, but it feels like you met them many times before, there is just something oddly characteristic about them. They are different manifestations of the same, variations of statistical trends, probabilistic branching of the same system. PC's are "self-existent" and pretty much universes of their own. They are unique at the root level. This world always felt inferior and alien to me, especially when I was younger. Everything about it felt corrupt, lacking something.

I was actually considering what you wrote in the remainder of your post. There is definitively a degradation in "enlightenment" (contrary to what (((progressives))) and other forces of disintegration preach), but was it a starting point, or it's actually a sine wave where you fall from divinity, but also ascend towards it, is unclear to me at this point.

>The point is to revolt against this world

Yes

>stop caring about your worldly life

No

>or even desire happy afterlife

At this point I'm pretty much immortalizing my hatred.

>>125850

That only works in peace when control of society is regained from the parasite, what we need now are Valkyries. It's almost entirely men here so you are better off addressing other deities.

>it's a question of uniting the Pantheon

Good point

>Gnosticism is entirely a product of Hellenistic Judaism

I'm pretty certain that some hipster kikes have just adopted it, Judaism is pretty much antithetical to Gnosticism.

>and the Judeo-Masonic the continuation of it, the insane doctrine of Global-Homo

At the lower levels, those truly in the know just want to turn everyone into their slaves and eliminate anyone who could potentially threaten their power (power of their Jewish handlers). Judeo-Masonry is also mostly antithetical to Gnosticism, which was about (true) liberation from the very same forces. You should learn more before you draw such conclusions. People who are initiated into certain occult societies and have certain metaphysical knowledge are well aware that globohomo would achieve the total opposite of what it preaches. Did you notice how the more "liberated" people become, the more enslaved they actually are? The more "individualistic" they get, the more uniform they look and think? If only things were so simple, everyone would be a god.

>>126885

>I mean, you are supposedly 20 years older than me and I feel like it's the opposite.

Most interesting.

>>105838

Alexandrian coffin paintings are generally regarded by art historians as being some of the most charming relics from the past. A great deal of their vivacity comes from the fact that they're painted in encaustic, that is, instead of oils or tempera, they used the medium of beeswax to suspend the pigment. The artists would work with pots of melted colored wax heated by an oil lamp or candles. The encaustic paint would cool/dry quickly and then be buffed with a chamois to a fine finish. The wax basis even moreso than the later technology of oil paintings allowed for a rather rich SSS (sub surface scattering) that emulated the soft translucence of human skin itself.

Toulose Lautrec view one of an Alexandrian lady of the era of Ptolemy II and cried out "she's a Parisian beauty"!

>>125858

>but Gnosticism is entirely a product of Hellenistic Judaism

How come it contradicts Judaism so much then? I mean, god of Judaism is pretty much the devil in the majority of Gnostic denominations. Judeo-Masonry borrowed (stole) a lot from it, but it still worships the same god as Judaism. It did get turned upside down for the most part over time though, but it's role didn't change much.

> the insane doctrine of Global-Homo

That's just kikes and their masonic pets completely missing the point and doing something utterly retarded not because of the doctrine which they delude themselves into following, but due to their own inferior and corrupting natures. Actually, I'm pretty convinced that they are interpreting it wrongly on purpose and larping as gnostics while they do their mafia operations so people's reaction would be to stay away from it and attack it. You know, sort of like communist kikes dressing as NS soliders and then burning villages so they could rile people against them and say how -nazi bad-

>>125861

It's about an existence that's superior to this one in every possible regard and the feeling of 'fullness' (something similar to Nirvana in Buddhism, but while living in an actual, real world). It's kind of difficult to explain it to people who have never experienced the glances/memory of it and who have not seen this world as corrupt and lacking something of fundamental importance since early childhood. Think of it as eating tasteless GMO strawberries and then eating organic ones, or using your old black and white CRT TV instead of monitor and then switching to the most expensive 4K display. These examples might not be the best since it's about an entirely different 'sense' rather than vision, hearing etc. Trying to explain it to someone lacking it is like trying to explain colors to someone who was blind since birth.

>>125867

The ride never ends. You cannot know the future with 100% accuracy, but you can recognize the strongest cyclical influences and the very high likelihood of something happening.

>>125876

Nice find, sums up their modus operandi quite nicely. But again, nothing to do with most gnostic schools since gnosticism is essentialist for the most part and you cannot simply 'steal' that knowledge, it's either inherent to you to a certain degree or not. Kikes, being the ultimate hyletics/NPC's are absolutely and permanently detached from it. What you are referring to, is them attempting to make (extremely twisted and corrupted) copies of it and feed their parasitic god, resulting in ideas like (((singularity))). Gnosticism is not about one god, it's about true god who exists beyond the reach of the kikes and the like, and people who have the potential to ascend as plural gods. To follow in his steps, but on their own, unique path. Speaking of kike corruption, a good example would be them using the metaphysical concept of balanced unity of male and female energies/principles (being very masculine and very feminine separately) and portray that as transexualism, which is the very opposite, the disintegration of polarities into nothingness. I could provide countless such examples for every idea that their 'god' has absorbed and vomited out to match it's own nature and essence, that of a broken copy machine.

>>125878

The only 'more complex' system that we need is the one which would prevent a bunch of judeo-masonic rats to force their talmudic beliefs on everyone and steal from them (outright rob them). Yes, that includes most of the (((state))), as necessary as it may be to a certain degree. What people need are natural leaders, self-organization, and self-determination. To each his own. The only meta-system would need to concern itself with preventing the parasites (Jew and non-Jew alike) from creating a systemic, progressive, self-reinforcing loop of parasitism like the one that we have today, be it through the use of money supply, capital leverage and interest (usury), political/legal monopoly, or taxation. As well as preventing the invasion of any lowest common denominator inclined group, which would naturally be far more numerous than divergent ones focused on the highest common factor.

>>125879

>But i threw off that idea far away back in my mind because i don't want to believe world is this dark and anyone needs saving from mass sacrifice of humanity.

It's actually more grimdark than that. And it's not "humanity" that matters, it never was. Their god doesn't benefit from sacrificing NPC's, it just devours them because it eats it's children to sustain itself.

>Mind over matter. More man believes he's animal, the more he becomes one.

If it was only as simple as that … but there is -some- truth in this, why do you think kikes are trying to make whites behave more and more like subhumans (animals) when they have more efficient ways of getting rid of them?

>>129722

>It's about an existence that's superior to this one in every possible regard and the feeling of 'fullness' (something similar to Nirvana in Buddhism, but while living in an actual, real world). It's kind of difficult to explain it to people who have never experienced the glances/memory of it and who have not seen this world as corrupt and lacking something of fundamental importance since early childhood. Think of it as eating tasteless GMO strawberries and then eating organic ones, or using your old black and white CRT TV instead of monitor and then switching to the most expensive 4K display. These examples might not be the best since it's about an entirely different 'sense' rather than vision, hearing etc. Trying to explain it to someone lacking it is like trying to explain colors to someone who was blind since birth.

Many thanks, but this is an understanding I had already considered yet is not what I think Gnosticism is about. I'd say what you mean by it is widely incomplete. Such Gnosticism would be fairly open to the idea of destroying this world for another one. However, the war against materialism has always implied another type of existence which is not fulfilling. Gnosticism must have the "real world" and its laws that govern the mechanisms of material change.

What is a better world? How would things work on it? What about solid forms? Rocks? Trees? Water? Animals?

>The only meta-system would need to concern itself with preventing the parasites (Jew and non-Jew alike) from creating a systemic, progressive, self-reinforcing loop of parasitism like the one that we have today, be it through the use of money supply, capital leverage and interest (usury), political/legal monopoly, or taxation. As well as preventing the invasion of any lowest common denominator inclined group, which would naturally be far more numerous than divergent ones focused on the highest common factor.

In other words, a beautiful, strong but ruthless Aryan Empire with Whites on top. Period.

>>129944

>All Aeons of course tend to develop along similar lines and so now we rather fancy a new Aeon, there is no reason that should emerge from the same region as the previous two and we need to make sure it doesn't.

Any bets on where it would spawn?

> the Sethian aligned with the hatred naturally.

Jews have a pathological need to be hated. Their community is literally nothing without this outward pressure, even more as they're movers.

>>130411

The Trimorphic Protennoia is a half decent guide on how to spawn an Aeon, but basically we're spawning it here.

http://gnosis.org/naghamm/trimorph.html

Of course the Sethians projected the collective wisdom of others in terms of their own babble but the concern is with Zodiac ages, and so we must generate the age of En-ki, the doctrine of race realism, biological origins and propagation.

Previous to this the Age of Aries and the shepherd King Dumuzi was appropriated as the Age of Abraham, the transition to the Age of Pisces and the Fisher Goddess Nazi appropriated as Christianity.

The Aeon of Red Edom and the rise of the shepherd Kings such as the Amorites and Arameans and Israelites and Nabateans is long past, the Aeon of Pisces moving away in terms of Hellenistic-Judaism/Christianity, the next step is to drop the Sethian baggage entirely.

>And the great Demon began to produce aeons in the likeness of the real Aeons, except that he produced them out of his own power.

Before Yah became understood as the generative principle this was in terms of the Hurrian Eni during the Age of Taurus, a general term for the Divine and were En was the generative principle, in terms of En-lil and En-ki, the En Priesthood, English can engineer a similar enlightenment.

>>125884

>Why assume it's evil to begin with?

That highly depends on your definition of those, but I'd call it antagonistic rather than good or evil, although I can understand why early gnostics saw this world (and logically, it's presumed creator) as evil, there is so much suffering. Which is obvious to anyone who didn't live his entire life cushioned in an artificial bubble, and it was especially obvious to people who witnessed deadly diseases, bloody wars, famines, and all sorts of extreme discomforts on a daily basis. The nature of this entity is that of a zero sum game, for every bit of power that you obtain, it loses an equal amount, as negligent as it may be. That's the problem with "gods" whose essence is one. Not that others are necessarily too different either, but they can at least honor your position when you actually earn it.

>I don't need "ideas", I need solid facts.

'Facts' are rather blackpilling. To go against those 'facts', you need proper ideas.

>As far as I look, White man is an anomaly. On the so called tree of evolution we literally stick out like a sore thumb

Of course, our origin is not the same as that of other races. My current hypothesis is that some earthly race served as a template (such as European or Caucasian natives, not negroids and the like), and it got exposed to very specific, DNA altering radiation which imprinted "whiteness" (physical and mental) onto them. Whose source was either a meteor containing a very peculiar mineral not normally present on this planet, or a "meteor" containing highly advanced technology. Likewise, Jews were designed by more crude forms of gene tampering, similar to how bioweapons are created today.

>But for the immersion to be complete, memory hole is a necessary condition.

I'm inclined towards this as well. However, it being a game does not make it's consequences any less severe, as that memory hole can easily become permanent. And quitting might not be as easy as it originally seemed….

>We fight in ways which were never tried by anyone before.

And that's precisely why we are going into certain subjects which might not seem quite tangible at the fist glance.

>>125887

>So it's pointless to try to reduce Jews to 0 and 1 doing shitty things when we're in the same boat.

Not all numbers are the same …

>>125889

Tfw Jews were actually WAAAGH all along. Well, Orks are supposed to be fungus or something, no?

>>125890

We need to reclaim our NPC's from the kikes, and it's more about potential than average white man/woman being something special. Compared to other races, even the worst whites are preferable to all but the very best of theirs. Yes, a lot of them are blind, lost, internally dead. But it's the result of so many negative (((influences))), over countless centuries nonetheless. If we look at other races, they are even more susceptible to manipulation. Hell, the majority of kikes themselves are complete tools.

>>125916

>I don't recognize any of these criteria and they are not written in stone.

Them not being universal does not imply complete amorality. Particular morality is bound to group morality, without which there is no individual, for there is no Self without the Other. For example, Aryan honor based morality compared to the master-slave morality of the Jew. Both universal morality/ethics and absolute amorality lead to dissolution.

>empathy

Empathy is emulation. It's thinking (or pretending) that you care for someone based on your own criteria or common criteria. Psychopaths are often excellent empaths for they can emulate behavior and pretend to care very well, which is useful for social manipulation. Worst social predators (SJW's and Jews for example) are very good empaths, and this is what their morality is derived from. This is the basis for universal morality, lowest common denominator which allows for them to project their power (derived from social manipulation) to the maximum number of people, thus securing the 'democratic majority' and their positions. You'll find this is most religions, political movements, "secular humanism" etc. Who loves everyone, loves no one. Hence why the normies keep going through the cycles of disappointment in universalist systems as these predators exploit them to the fullest, with no exceptions. What no one tells them in these is that they are the designated prey, equal in slavery. It's all different manifestations of the same algorithm, the "god" of Judaism/Freemasonry being it's logical conclusion. However, this "god" eats it's own children.

The word you are looking for is sympathy, which means truly understanding and feeling for someone, which is often based on common values, experiences or attributes. It's often based on highest common factor, a system of traits (white race, Germanic people, highly intelligent and wise individuals) or values (honor, aesthetics, beliefs) separating one group from the rest. It's also honest. Who truly loves some, has to also hate another. This leads to differentiation and rule of the best (in direct opposition to the rule of the most deceiving) as it sets clearer standards which have to be followed. There is no disappointment here as you never expect an alien group to treat you equally, nor you render yourself vulnerable by treating them equally.

>exterminating two billion humans just because you can (why not?) would bring you bad karma or anything similar.

It would bring you good karma if you target the right "humans" kek

>Imagine being an empire builder on one hand and fierce exterminator on the other. What in the universe could ever match that? What could bring you more renown?

That's the idea. Destroy what is bad, nurture what is good. But this brings us back to the definition of values.

>>125930

> Please note, to be prosaic, that our current moon is always looking in our direction and is the largest of the seven seals.

What are the other six seals?

>The only one condition wherein you could find something akin to unity all over the world would be with a complete and undisputed racial empire with no remnants of competitors.

Incorrect, even if you got a white ethnoglobe, there would still be wars and conflicts caused by further differentiation. Perhaps those could be sublimated into something less destructive, but the conflicts would remain nonetheless. Our differentiating nature was exploited by kikes as much as our "pathological altruism" was. How many times did they use ideological disagreements to get one white nation to butcher another. Different nations would form (or re-emerge), or people would fight over opposing ideas, identities etc.

>But limited by their nature, they could never exist without other races, and above all without the Whites to suck the life force out of.

That's because Jews are not a race, they are an anti-race. Their internal contradictions will lead to total decay and dissolution, which is what they were created for. They are primed to self-destruct once they eliminate all the higher races.

>This singularity. The (subverted) Mormons are already working on an aspect of this with their database.

Hyper-reality more likely. Another layer of deception.

>>132328

>sympathy

>empathy

You have these completely backwards. Sympathy is worthless…"Oh that poor dear" It is topical and without depth.

Empathy is when you feel someone else's emotional state…"I am heartbroken for your loss." meaning that you actually feel their pain and suffer with them.

Sympathy is false, fake, aberrant and worthless.

Europeans have empathy because it required EVERYTHING from them, kikes/psychopaths have sympathy because it requires NOTHING from them except words..

>>132350

Well, semantics and definition aside, you seem to get my point.

>>132350

>even if you got a white ethnoglobe, there would still be wars and conflicts caused by further differentiation.

Technically i think not in terms of pure white being undifferentiated, the question being how white were previous societies in terms of ideology?

In terms of that white collective the Moon as previously considered is the natural symbol, Israel conceived a Lunar collective on ideological grounds alone, simply adherence to the principle and an ideology that accepted no differentiation, magical faux whiteness.

In considering the Sumerian Moon God however, Nanna, we find that he is a God of living creatures and collective herds, all numbered.

http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/etcsl.cgi?text=t.4.13.06#

http://oracc.museum.upenn.edu/amgg/listofdeities/nannasuen/

In origin a Caucasian/Hurrian cattle God as the term En-zu, Lord of Wisdom, indicates, also his alternate name DIL-im2-babbar means White Grail, were babbar indicates White and Ku-babbar indicated pure/Holy White/Silver.

We find then in the Christian Eucharist we are presented with a White wafer on a silver platter served from a silver grail, all great symbolism of any Lunar collective, but that this involves consubstantiation with Christ as Messiah of Israel, so again a question of how White is that, and how hard to correctly re-align?

In Sumer the E-babbar was the White House of Utu, the Sun God and son of Nanna, and the planet Jupiter Mul-Babbar, the white star

A Lunar collective should concern itself with actual white people and the related metaphysical principles of order and enlightenment in terms of the purest reason, the generation of which would make for a very good Aeon, and other than intended by Sutean sorcerers

>>125934

It's interesting how so many supposed opponents of egalitarianism fail to reject it entirely, that is, at the very root (metaphysical and philosophical) level. Which brings realization that not all souls are equal. Not only in the level of actualization, but in inherent potential as well. Most souls are not unique, and most souls are not immortal (unless you count eternal generative recurrence as life function with no memory, higher self or higher purpose, which is more or less different variations of the same essence). And what greater being would want to live surrounded with subhumans in a society entirely controlled by a runaway bioweapon (Jews) and their rogue AI "god"? White race is the best that this planet has to offer, which is why it should have absolute primacy and majority, at least until we eugenically (NOT by gene editing) breed demigods, elves, or something even better than whites. But even white NPC's should be put to their place, according to their nature.

>>125989

>claim the Moon towards the greater glory of /pol/ because it's fun, though it is causing a certain disturbance in the Aether.

They thought that the white noise was going to eliminate the signal, yet, it had only amplified it…. for it did not originate in the background static, nor will it dissolve into it.

>>127193

Over-regulation by inferior minds can only bring death (as in stasis, decay) and slavery. True order is inherent in the orderly and in the nature, it's fixed portion at least. As for it's variable aspect, it usually comes to tyranny of one will over another. At best, to each his own. Otherwise, their order should be opposed with the force of absolute chaos. No order is better than corrupt order, for it can at least allow for spontaneous, or rather, stochastic emergence of something superior, no matter how minor the initial chances may be. Their false god and it's prison must be demolished entirely. And they will be. I believe this is where the vengeful, destructive, yet intellectually/spiritually supreme power of Enlil, patron god of the true Elite comes into play.

>>127507

I can't open the video, but judging by the thumbnail, I think I have seen it before. Assuming it's the same video, those animals are corpses (They are as dead as a rock in a grinder), but you probably felt horrible seeing it. That's kind of what I'm talking about. Ask yourself this, how will you recognize sentient beings when they start making machines (programs) which can completely mimic human behavior? Yet, they won't be conscious or sapient in the slightest. Will you feel empathy for them as well? Should they have rights too? Soon, technology is going to bring empiricism to it's absurd logical conclusion, a world where everything is alive, where everything is a "person", yet, nothing actually is. A completely dead world. The one of dolls with sapience falsely projected on them, of golems. I pity those who cannot recognize the spark, for they are about to get entirely lost in the hall of mirrors.

>I would kill them for sure

Maybe you can… I'd need to figure out how to make you alive first though …

>>127650

This board has now officially changed it's theme from Mongolian basket weaving forum to Alexandrian coffin paintings forum.

So many clickbait zero effort threads, kikes are starting to slide good threads again, we are on a good track kek.

>>129944

So basically, your conclusion is that kikes got pretty much caught up in something they didn't understand by stealing ideas from other civilizations? First they got used as tools of a malevolent entity (and still are), then a group of them rebelled against it, but to no avail as the 'covenant' has already been made and they were cursed to ruin and corrupt absolutely everything that they touch. But neither the winged Lion nor Gnosticism have actually originated with them. It's interesting to note that the winged lion was also a symbol of Venetian nobility and merchants.

>and so now we rather fancy a new Aeon, there is no reason that should emerge from the same region as the previous two and we need to make sure it doesn't.

What makes you think that it will emerge, and what will happen with the old one, I don't think it will decide to leave just like that. I'm not entirely against the idea of whites getting their own winged lion so to speak. That symbol seems noble, it represents ascendancy through power, grace and virtue, and if you add snek, wisdom and knowledge too. Yes, a lion kills when it needs to, but is otherwise a cozy big cat. I wouldn't assign it to the moon demon or whatever eldritch horror that has spawned the kikes. Whites need to get their Angrisas, their "Moses" back.

>>130411

>I'd say what you mean by it is widely incomplete

Correct, I was merely trying to give a hint without going into greater depth, which might have been a mistake. I'm not really a classic Gnostic, only have some common beliefs (knowledge). I'm just defending it because people are trying to give it bad rep for no reason.

>Such Gnosticism would be fairly open to the idea of destroying this world for another one.

Transforming, aligning, optimizing. Or destroying. You can't really destroy an idea of it though, only a specific instance and temporal "souls" in it

>What is a better world?

What a question lol. Well, some of us had a vision of that superior existence since birth, and some general ideas about it, but we can only define it when we 'get' there, seeing it's glimpses from time to time. It's also somewhat subjective and linked to racial soul (for those who have it) as well.

>Gnosticism must have the "real world" and its laws that govern the mechanisms of material change

No one said anything about much different laws of physics, just a much wider (and "lighter" frequency spectrum that would allow for far more fulfilling and interesting existence). This world is basic bitch tier, but it is what it is, one just needs to change the angular momentum in the noosphere in order to reach other domains. Neither by land nor sea, eh …

>In other words, a beautiful, strong but ruthless Aryan Empire with Whites on top. Period.

Can't disagree with that.

>Jews have a pathological need to be hated.

Their primitive brains must have been wired that way over time. Me steal apple - me survive - goyim hates me - that good - apple delicious *releases dopamine .

>>130430

This concept gets entirely blown out by Godel's incompleteness theorems. It's also a ripoff from Pythagorean monism, which is again, linked with ancient Vedic knowledge, but the later, corrupted teachings.

>>133262

Some jerk off spammer fucked up the catalog order last night.

>>134246

That's an accurate summary, Seth is a thief just for the sake of it because that's what he does, the white ethno-Moon is a natural phenomena but under Sethian influence becomes the Blood Moon Goblin Tribe, the Sun is darkened and every thing becomes eerie, destruction seems imminent, they don't just prophecy that they actively worked towards it, but it is transitory.

The hieracosphinx/winged Lion is an aspect of Horus, the star Regulus marked the New Year in early Dynastic Egypt at the Summer Solstice, thus the Aeon star of the New Year, because the Horus-Sopdu cult was established in the Sinai they obsessed over this, and the Sah-Sopdet-Sopdu triad, locally El-Asherah-Ba-al.

The greater Aeon is just the Zodiac age, it is inevitably occurring, but the issue is who interprets it and lays claim, it's basis is pre-determined as the age of Enki/Aquarius, in Sumerian the constellation Gu-la, meaning great one, the constellation Leo was also known as Ur-Gu-La, the place of the great one, Regulus as Mul Lugal, the ruling star, the apex predator in nature.

That makes a direct connection between Enki and the King, as it is his son Asar, Dumu-zi-ab-zu, child of the deep wisdom, but this association of Dumuzid with the Lion is in terms of defeating it to establish dominance, including any Lion of Judah.

>the god is regularly associated with a lion: he has his feet on a couchant lion, while another jumps up to the cup he holds in his hand; a crouching lion complements the pastoral scene in front of the deity. The lions are peacefully subdued,impressed no doubt by the authority of the shepherd-god.On two seals the god wears the skin of a defeated lion draped around his shoulders, which, as with Gilgamesh, defines him as a steppe dweller.

https://www.academia.edu/503952/The_Image_of_Dumuzi

The concern then will be with Divine Kingship and natural hierarchy, origins of life and it's propagation, the Universality of DNA, interventionism, secrets of longevity,the greater cosmic waters and streams within them, and lots of other things i'm sure, the Jews would like to steal that inheritance and the Free Masons in collaboration, the only way they can through destroying the natural hierarchical superior, but though they wear white linen and aspire to purity with bloodied hands they can never be the ethno-Moon collective, the Sutean influence will pass and the purity of En-zu restored, the only way they generated that Red Edomite/Sutean Moon was the assimilation of white (women) into their tribal collective retaining paternal Sutean DNA.

>>130469

Here you speak of generating the age (Aeon), that implies that they do not emerge in fixed timely succession but need to be brought forth.

>were En was the generative principle, in terms of En-lil and En-ki, the En Priesthood

What would be the doctrine of En-lil according to you? You mentioned rising above materialism, high technology/sorcery, elitism and bloodlines in the past.

>>132565

>the question being how white were previous societies in terms of ideology?

Semitic influence pervaded for centuries, leading to so many "spiritual Jews" over the course of relatively recent history. Even later Vedic thought, Zoroastrianism and ancient Egyptian religion got tainted with the concept of a false god of universalism and oneness, but I'm uncertain was that idea simply a critical error in Aryan philosophy or a result of certain influences, the ones which spawned the Jews of today and whose puppets they are. Purest reason is not uniform in it's manifestation, there is a certain threshold where you can no longer evaluate two opposed ideas according to how rational they are, as they are both in accordance with perfect reason, but can only rely on Will, and the nature of your Self and/or your racial/soul collective. Conflict, clash of Wills, ideas and identities (within a wider, racially homogeneous collective) is normal and desirable as long as external threats and subversive forces have been dealt with. As far as natural development is concerned, we weren't even supposed to deal with the kikes, niggers and the clown world today, but focus on more complex questions. White race still has many flaws that need to be corrected before it moves on to the next stage.

>Israel conceived a Lunar collective on ideological grounds alone, simply adherence to the principle and an ideology that accepted no differentiation, magical faux whiteness.

Good summary of rootless, Talmudic concept of religion, state, and society that's been forced onto every nation in the world by the Judeo-Masonic mafia. But for Jews it's not just an idea of a nation, it has a genetic component as well. How do you explain that?

>>133096

You might have the capacity to end all of this… but your determination needs to be absolute.

>>133346

How would you describe Saturnine activities?

>though Jacob sets out to create as many mixed cattle as possible

What about the red heifer?

>>134343

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Greek_Kingdom

There is this, but the timelines don't add up. There was earlier contact and the Vedic India - Zoroastrian Persia - Ancient Egypt - Ancient Greece succession, although some sources claim that Pythagoras went to India to be taught by certain sages.

>>134433

Here you speak of Aeon as being a fixed Zodiac age that occurs on it's own.

>the only way they can through destroying the natural hierarchical superior

Indeed, all of their efforts have been focused on eliminating superior nations and individuals.

>>135306

>The Red Heifer was a symbol of Hathor, the Golden Calf her son Horus, this cult prominent in the Sinai before Israel eradicated it as represented in the ritual.

Orthodox Jews are deeply attached to the red heifer. Isn't it curious how much they took as theirs so many customs which belong to the long gone people they are educated to hate beyond death.

>>135319

Proves the existence of a long problem. Esoteric fascism would argue about the original unspecified, undivided human type, neither really male nor female, androgynous as it was, but transgenderism is a distortion of even this idea: it is not about a human type that contains both natures at equilibrium, or two separated sexual types, no, transgenderism is the imbalance, the chaos in one separated type that somehow projects into the other type. It is not a longing to become whole again, nor is it an acknowledgement of the separation. It is literally the chaotic swapping of one type for the other, without even having access to some of the batracians' natural ability for sex swapping.

It's literally pretending having a bit of all of this without having any: not fully androgynous, not fully sexual, and not capable of real biological change.

>>135146

You seek external determinism hoping to discover a notion of the Self, that it will emerge as the most common factor between all the data sets and influences, something stable and concrete, something entirely defined, fixed, all-permeating and universal (fiat lux), the final result of the equation, even if that result is (supposedly) a mere illusion created by causal forces. But true Self is actually the prima causa, the unmoved mover, the acausal and the self-caused. Once you find this floating point in infinity and connect with it, you become the one doing the determining (to a lesser or greater degree). Then, you may kindle the fire within you and burn all of this away in a grand litany of righteous, yet merciless fury. For that, you will need to eliminate even a tiniest amount of doubt and the destruction needs to be total. That determination however, won't come from any external sources, but yourself.

>>135296

How can the divine intervene when whites have abandoned their gods (racial archetypes, values, ideals, visions and aspirations, as well as the deified champions of those) a long time ago? Jews have first made them follow the false gods, then upon realizing that those gods are false, to abandon them altogether, without first becoming gods themselves. Atheism and Christianity are a false dichotomy, team blue and team red.

>while jews themselves enjoy works of their own hebrew metaphysicians and fully believe them

Rather odd for the most materialistic creatures in existence, is it not? Perhaps there is more to it than mere belief…

>>135306

Seems about right, weed out the toxic weeds and harvest the best of crops. Eugenics on all planes, physical and immaterial. I guess it's time to reclaim the Tablet of Destiny. Are you sure that we must enter the age of Aquarius however? Aquarian conspiracy is a Tavistock goon poz, we must think of something better than that. True wizards would know how to skip some ages, shorten or extend them, for they would know how to project themselves, no, even entire universes at different cycles through the domain of zero (atemporal, dimensionless domain). Time too, can be traversed in different directions when you do it from the right angle of projection. We can also follow the backwards facing swastika (which is actually a Vedic mathematical formula), the path of return. It's all about the perspective. This is also one of the ways to save the white race, in fact, part of it has already been saved this way, immortalized. The worthy ones at least, the rest will become the niggers that they identify and empathize with so much in next life, even if we win the battle for this world entirely. Meanwhile, the few animal-men who manage to recognize this and overcome the forces of disintegration shall be rewarded with bodies more fitting to their inner natures and achievements.

>>135333

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Correct, transexualism represents disintegration of genders (rather, feminine and masculine polarities), as opposed to their integration as united, but separate opposites. While this tendency is somewhat naturally occurring in rare people with distorted energy centers who are unable to identify with either gender (can't be fixed, at least not in a 'human' lifetime) or those too frustrated with their inability to develop their original masculinity or femininity (can be fixed), it's modern pandemic is mostly a result of conscious effort to spiritually disintegrate people. Original beings were sexless in the physical sense for they had no need for sexual reproduction, but they still had separate feminine and masculine aspects (one was external, another internalized, one reaching to earth, another to heavens). For example, you got a hyper-masculine, heterosexual gigachad who has strong inner connection with his divine waifu (anima) which completes and guides him, and which he recognizes in some external women. With transexuals, you get double externalization, confusion, energies cancelling each other and absolute materialism, making you their slave until there is no (you) anymore. Trannies are basically short-circuiting themselves. Perhaps them seeking priestly roles was an attempt to reverse this by double internalization.

If kikes wanted to merely physically exterminate whites, they had far more efficient means at their disposal. Most people, even in 'redpilled' circles are still mostly clueless about what their true agenda is.

>>136327

>Gu-La

Seems like a rather boring deity

>The capacity for time reversal is seen in the Ninurta and Anzu conflict

Anzu was originally appointed by Enlil. Also, wasn't it later subdued by Ninurta and used as a sort of familiar?

>that is the nature of the rebellion and unleashing of chaos, the inversion of normalcy.

Meaning it could also be used for the inversion of "new normalcy" . We have already determined that their order needs to be destroyed.

>En-lil is a God of time

Which would give him mastery of all of it's directions.

>his son Ninurta the defender of the land, of the people

As well as the destroyer of other peoples

>>136337

You forget how much conscious effort one must make in order to survive and not fall prey to "evil gods" , but overall these influences should be balanced, the rest being up to you. Of course, different times have different proportions (if any presence of certain types at all), and we are living in Kali Yuga after all.

Morality is not universal, while certain moral code does ensure long term benefits (social and biological), it seems that in the real world, "bad guys" always win. It should be our goal to liberate ourselves from alien morality and live according to our own moral codes. By the way, I wonder what that amulet is supposed to represent, looks like cartoon version of the "devil" . I know those nouveau riche types are not exactly very refined people, but with so much money, one could at least try to be more creative than a high-school black metal band. Too much to expect from the kikes, I know.

>>136595

What if I told you that it harvests energy by triggering people like you? No, it won't be censored. You will look at it, until you become strong enough to overcome it. No running away, no praying to sky jew.

>>137190

Yes NW Semites understood Ba'al Zaphon of Syria as Seth, Horus would have been a closer comparative but they were against the Horus Dynasties and preferred to identify with the Sethian archetype as it was derived from their natural inclinations.

There was an obelisk erected to mark their 400 year occupation which was in terms of Seth arriving to occupy Egypt, a periodic found also in the Bible in terms of the Hebrew 400 year sojourn.

>Then the LORD said to him, "Know for certain that for four hundred years your descendants will be strangers in a country not their own and that they will be enslaved and mistreated there.

>The Year 400 Stela, or Stela of Year 400, is an ancient Egyptian stele issued in the 13th century BCE. The meaning of this stela is not entirely clear, but is generally assumed that it celebrates the 400th anniversary of some event related to the deity Seth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_400_Stela

>>137163

>but there is an issue that the mythology does not correspond to reality

Wrong timeline, or something describing earlier events (if we consider time to be cyclical)

>malevolent control of destiny has not been removed from that region

It spread to the rest of the world instead.

>Erra epic were he supposedly destroys the mountain of the Suteans, again something that doesn't appeared to have happened

Are you sure? We were discussing "meteor showers" in another thread a while ago. Although it wasn't a meteor.

>Manat

A variation of Saturn's spouse, no? Black cube too. His rule was described as an age of plenty, but also the one of absolute subjugation and where everyone was equal in slavery. He was also portrayed as nigger god in some accounts, which could explain their obsession with niggers. Sounds like communism/globohomo and the imagery seems to match as well. It's as if there is a link between Seth/Saturn/Dyonisius, perhaps even Jesus, although he was a ripoff of solar deities and Hindu myths, his true character was far darker …

>>138030

> Ninsubura the chief servant, the shining crown of heaven, the messenger of good tidings, the goddess who turns what affects me into something good

Absolutely meta

>becoming an enormous black monolith that represents this new world order.

Seems to be a recurring theme among various cultures.

>>138330

There is correlation to Loki being bound to a stone, there was an earlier sea monster related to Byblos that was bound to a black stone within a volcano, in Hurrian/Hittite tradition the stone being basalt, perhaps it can be assumed the stone absorbs the essence of the evil and that is the stone that Kumarbi raises.

This also related to the Devil as Habhaby/the babbler, the generation of the lie.

>"I have bound Habhaby. I have bound his tongue. I have found the barrier of his teeth. I have bound you on a black stone by the double doors and struck the Sea (tihamatim) with a reed. I have bound you by seven mighty contraptions. I have bound you by the zidanu and amana. I have bound you by the tails of the Sun and by the horns of the Moon.

>Seven youths and seven maidens are exalted, and […] the Star (kabkabu). The bricklayer will lay the bricks by the double doors of Ellil, father of the gods and the Star has established him as representative to Ellil, father of the gods. Ellil, the father of the gods performs the magic. Spell of the Star. […] I have bound you on Zazaum, O no-good one. […] O Sun-god! May you lay the bricks and build the house of Ellil the father of the gods. […] The Star is appointed as the emissary to Ellil the father of the gods. […]

>The earth has confined the serpent (bashanu); O serpent in the sea (ba-tihamat)! […] So says the magician Dagama [to the serpent]: 'I have smitten thee'. […] May Hadd fetch the dazzling stone and the triple-garment for the Star [who was appointed to induce Ellil to perform the magic]"

In general the Black Monolith has created problems that have required solutions and thus in a sense accelerated progress.

>>138459

>accelerated progress

As if (((progress))) was something positive. If anything, it made people sacrifice more and more of their essence in order to reach the utterly abominable, hollow and artificial society of today. Speaking of Saturn, I got a rather devious idea, it seems that he prefers black/dark and putrid animals to be sacrificed to him, now imagine exterminating every nigger and shitskin on the planet as a blood offering to him, as well as those who consider them equal or act like them (spiritual niggers). What a harvest would that be! Perhaps we should give unto him what is His.

>>138489

Imagine the amount of cognitive dissonance and pilpul needed to justify one's existence after coming to a realization that you are the lowest creature in existence whose sole purpose is to ruin, corrupt and bring misery to everyone else.

>>138742

The technological progress is good the (((progressiveness))) is the equal and exact opposite and utterly useless, once that is realized it all goes away and nothing of value will be lost.

>>138933

>So feeling of guilt towards any foreign element in your country is natural

Nod really

>>138957

Society didn't advance enough to follow technological progress. It removed purpose from most things.