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>>28376

Sorry re-reading this I left out some stuff.

I was homeless when I was 18 for a few weeks and learned quickly how cold it gets. Cold is your enemy and you need to ensure you are always able to sleep/function/etc as best you can. If you are freezing to death every night or one of those "I'll just stay with frands xD" then you're going to die from the cold before the virus gets you.*

Having a go bag is a bag that is prepped now and ready for you to go into the woods that you can assemble/grab within 10 minutes.*

Sleep is vital, Shelter more so, stay out of the wind and the elements as again they will kill you just as much as the virus. If you're an ausfag like me, I know the coast is on fire but it's a good place to be due to lack of more poisonous animals and open terrain down south.*

Learn to use terracotta is another skill I picked up and would recommend. If you learn how to use mud and the earth to build structures, trench-houses, trench beds, etc, you are more likely to be safe.

Don't think you're a primal hunter and going out to hunt Roo or Deer or whatever. They might be infected too. Avoid eating animals just for a while and if you do bleed them which is the process of cooking the blood out of the animal. On top of this Jerky/Black meat may taste gross but it's at least safe. Ignore comfort for a while.

I can't remember who said it but a good quote to live by right now is "You save money for a rainy day. Well, mate, it's fucking raining."

>>28355

>6000 people

Learn how to make basic traps (spring snare ect), learn how to fish (you can make a hook outta anything, catch a fish split it's guts and put the contents on the hook to catch bigger fish). Learn herbology (so you don't eat nightshade and die like a retard) and how to tan hide. Go jogging alot, learn some mixed martial arts. LEARN HOW TO SEW

Don't be a retard and buy a ton canned goods, you want to GET OUT of city limits if SHTF so why stock up in your house if it's not secure?

Honestly if you're that worried set up a nice homestead with a water well ahead of time. Also rope is important, it and string are very usefull since they are hard to hard craft in the wild.

>>28390

Fish carry disease though so be cautious. Sewing is the shit though my man. Has saved me a fortune

>>28376

another way to use the flour

>>28401

Seitan is a beauty

>>28417

Crime novels != Criminals

FBI also does not use TOR

They have their own encryption for their devices that is handled by a specialzed officer in the DOE.

>>28421

You can be charged for distributing information about bomb-making techniques.

You're literally brain dead or you're actually FBI trying to entrap users here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Ryne_Goldberg

>>28376

>>>28376

>Ausfag here, tried getting 3M mask today, completely wiped out of stock at all 3 local chemists, bunnings wiped out too.

>Are you in vic? Have any spare masks?

>>28426

Nah NSW mate but if shit goes down stay on 8kun and I'll be sure to get you in. I got a 50 pack online and have a concrete/chem mask because I work construction.

Regardless you can make a makeshift using, and it's stupid but, vinegar and a rag.

If not would say try to order online from niche sites or direct medical sites. I often try to focus only on getting medical stuff from legit medical sites. Search for Hospital Supplies Victoria etc

Regardless, I got your back mate and if shit goes down us Ausfags will stick together through the fire and the flames

>>28433

If you're having no luck I'll have a gander for you though

>>28426

wikipedia

the benchmark for legal advice brought to us by a philandering kike.

please look up the laws in my country, Turkey.

>>28434

https://www.medshop.com.au/

https://www.mcfarlanemedical.com.au/

https://www.warnerwebster.com.au/

Sorry also should mention, These are what I've used in the past. Antiseptics and Antibacterials will do you good too.

>>28437

Can only find masks on mcfarlane, and it gives no reference to delivery time. I'd rather get something sooner than maybe waiting two weeks

>>28496

>>28501

>Egoraptor

Its been awhile since he has made anything. Its nice to see him back again.

>>28589

1. He isn’t.

2. Why the fuck are you’d defending that piece of shit kike?

https://archive.org/details/shtf-prepping-survival-videos

Great archive with TONS of prepping/SHTF tutorials, this was all collected well before Jewtube started rigging their algorithms and censoring search results (to which most of these videos today would not be easily found). The archive provides a wealth of info, everything from prepping on low budgets to household fortification tips to bug-out bag reviews to ideas for DIY prepping projects to canning and storing your own food for long-term storage and much more.

>>28395

Yeah, be carefull where you fish. I once pulled a fish out of a river near a huge farm and shat my brains out after eating it. Pesticides or something. Always cut the head, get the scales off and remove the guts ect ect before cooking it. There are thousands of tips online probally a few by Gordan Ramsey.

But yeah sewing is suuper usefull, repairing old clothes or making more out of new material not to mention closing otherwise deadly wounds is always usefull. It's looked down upon to much, it's almost key to surviving in the wild.

Oh and knots, tying things down or up isn't as easy as it seems. Especially when they are moving, how else are you going to bleed a boar or particapate in TDOR? If you can't tie a simple knot.

>>28756

I'm almost afraid to ask this…… what happened to the Boy Scouts?

>>28760

>what happened to the Boy Scouts?

they bankrolled my retirement

only cost me my childhood

>>28756

Yeah being masculine and self reliant is the original sin these days. So is being feminine and at all nuturing. You can only have manly women and weak effeminate "men" these days.

I'm not American but I used to work for a guy that was part of Hitler's Jung he even had the dagger. (he's dead now so fuck off Mossad) But the way it is described is pretty inspiring. Teaching boys how to become men, self reliant and strong mentally and pyshically and instilling a real patriotic duty in them. Not for meaningless scraps of paper but for Blood and Soil, a commitment that goes above states and rests in the well being of the nation above all and the well being of the state as it safe guards the nation.

You just don't see that anymore, I'm not even a boomer but I can see how the Youth have degenerated. Parents don't parent sure but the state doesn't parent the parents into stronger ones. And the school system destroys any parental upbringing.

>>28765

>has rocket launchers

<confines himself to a small space

knife would be more use tbqh

>>28491

Macfarlane has shit order time so it'd be way longer. I'd try calling around chemists and local bunnings. If no luck at all you could risk calling (DO NOT GO) a hospital to see and give the honest reason of preventing the virus.

If you can't find anything you may have to make your own. There are a bunch of youtube tutorials on it but it comes down to: Silk or a tightly bound material, As much filter as you can get using even stocking if you must, A wire that is malleable so you can shape it to your face.

Keep us posted

>>28765

Well what's the right information Anon?

>>28765

>bug out bags

Not a terrible suggestion at all. Good to add practice packing a hiking pack so you know how to use space efficiently and what can fit, then go hiking to feel how each pound weighs on you and whether your pack is shit or have it strapped right/wrong. It's definitely good to know what to pack.

>you can live 3 days without water

More like a week or more, yeah. Some people die from jump scares though, so it depends. A person could probably go 14 days at most unless they're a yogi or something.

>MREs

Some sort of oil, beans and rice would be better. Dry beans. If you bring potatoes you can start a garden and rake in hundreds of pounds of food if you don't eat it all the first year.

Learning how to farm is important.

>high lumen flashlights

Wind ups and knowledge of power generation in an off-the-grid context is important. Making torches out of resin is a good skill too. Good to learn how to set a perimeter, tripwires hooked up to something to make noise to wake you up at night, dig some pits and things that break and make noise when you step on them (around where you're sleeping), and probably some other things.

>snare wire

How to create thread in general and build traps is good.

>>28830

Oh if you want to be sneaky learning how to dig a Dakota Firehole is key so that you cut down on your smoke. And if you want to get fancy a fox hole with parapets (so you can cover your hole) is usefull.

>>28830

Vegan faggot the thread

>>28355

Basic essentials (food storage, clean water and water filtration so you can clean water for drinking, sanitation supplies & OTC meds, clothing, gear, tools, solutions for off-grid emergencies and weapons for protection & self defense. Get your defense strategy organized and planned out in advance. Make sure you fortify all entry points if you bug-in during SHTF, the less populated the area you live in the safer you'll be. Do not trust the media or government to protect you, that's about it.

>>29447

Farmer at War has some good tips. We can learn alot from the Rhodies in terms of farm defence and coordinating with other White farms to run a defense group.

>>29472

>one guy mentions beans

<began faggot the thread

Shoot yourself

>>28765

<one and done

<doesn’t refute any of the information presented

<wants shitty knives

<doesn’t want to have gear on hand for escaping

<doesn’t want to see

<doesn’t want to trap people

Why not banned?

>>28759

Sage, and reported for no argument.

>>28355

>You're in Wuhan, city has been quarantined, you can't leave but there's this denseish forest, or you just rather disappear for some reason, for some time.

>How do you prepare for going into the woods by yourself because you have to be isolated or away for whatever reason?

Once SHTF if you are in a major city you can bet it will become next to impossible to get out, or be able to get the goods you need to survive. The whole point of prepping is to be prepared way in advance so you are not stuck in the same rut as 99% of the general population. If you think you are going to suddenly storm the stores at the very last minute and have enough resources available to survive I pity you. That's not what prepping is about. And if you have decided to live in an urban death trap without making a commitment in advance to move out before SHTF, it is likely too late for you. Those cities will be quarantined and you'll live off what rations you have if you are not prepared well in advance.

>>28830

>More like a week or more, yeah.

If you go without water for more than two days your body will be severely weakened, after that you'll be too weak to fight. Clean water is one of THE most important assets when SHTF. Lack of clean drinkable water is the second biggest killer when SHTF besides lack of proper sanitation. Believe it or not, death by violence and starvation is way down the list of fatalities during crisis. Disease/sickness and lack of clean water are the number 1 & 2 killers every time.

>>29592

I will go 48 hours without drinking or eating then check back with you. First though, I will drink a liter. Clock starts now.

>>29793

>>29592

I have gone 24 hours without drinking water, and I am fine. It was very uncomfortable at times. I have moments where I am not uncomfortable. Now discomfort isn't as bad, as my body and mind stops being pussies.

>>28414

> http://onionshare:spender-ladle@3lbufl4awlbgcwv67bvnnno5wz37fmmgodbzp44gmfmdq7oyzbr2e3id.onion

did not werk

I think it only works for one person and then its no good anymore

>>29793

dry-anon

no cheating

no beer, whiskey, vodka either

>>30804

I thought about it.

>>30965

Monitor the coffee coloured piss and acute kidney failure.

>>28376

>guys buy a million bags of white flour

bruh that has like no nutrition at all.

At least get oats or oat groats instead m8.

>>28401

>>28403

Seitan is made out of soy, is it not?

If you don't have problems with soy, It's much better to make tofu or tempeh because seitan is highly processed and very bad for you.

>>29472

>there are NO such thing as plant BASED conservatives

full retard

Reminder that all this corona virus bullshit is getting cringe.

We get actual nigger-worshipping retards from 4kidz posting here.

>>30992

NOTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT'S JUST ANOTHER LARP FOR UNDERAGE POSTERS.

>>28376

Somewhat irrelevant, but how should I be drinking water now? I don’t trust plastics bottles, the chemicals in the water from the faucet, and I’m not sure how much I can trust a plastic Beira filter.

I have a medical condition that makes me reliant on this kiked society. Anyone else here fucked if there’s a boogaloo?

>>31270

Invest in an atmospheric water generation (with extra filters) that can produce clean drinkable water from air. Last time I bought mine it was around $900. That was years ago, so they may cost more now days with inflation and all.

Or you could invest in a decent distiller (should not cost more than $400 total) and distill your own water. Or - if you have space - stock up on those bulk 1 gallon distilled water buckets which can be found in most stores.

Another option, and I apply all three because I'm tin foil ready for this shitshow, is to be able to collect and filter rain water. Inb4 "illegal in muh area!" So what? Do it out back and have the common sense to hide it so no snoops are going to see it easily. You'll need cheese cloth for the first filtering session, and then you'll need some carbon filters to filter out more. Then you can distill or boil the water to make sure its extra clean and safe.

>>31280

You don't have to live buttfuck rural to be safe. Farms, ranches and acres cost money and are hard work to maintain, no shit! Just move outside any major city, in a small town where tax is low and housing doesn't cost too much. A population of 2,000 or less preferable (in many small towns today you can find a home for only $55K depending the conditions, which you may need some DIY elbow grease to fix up and for any man that shouldn't be a very big problem).

>>31302

You get a job in the trades, mortgage the house and can pay it off within 10 years easy!

>>31314

It is really very simple: bugging-out does absolutely no good unless you have a safe haven/shelter and some supplies to survive. Without that, you are going to end up dead by nature's ugly surroundings. Bad weather can kill you. Wildlife can kill you. Unclean or contaminated water found in nature can kill you. Not knowing how to hunt/fish/grow crops to store more food (safely) can kill you. Not knowing how to fend for yourself in nature can kill you, and even one injury that is not properly treated can kill you. It is just that simple. Anyone who thinks they are going to flee their comfy apartments or homes and survive nature is in for one hell of an ugly surprise. Nature is an absolute bitch without some form of civilization, real experience and survival skills.

>>30786

>>30977

I don't feel that bad. I walked 30 minutes then balanced on one leg ez. Then I did a 1 arm push up on each side, and a 1 arm squat on each side. I still have 5.5 hours to go.

You don't have to believe me, but 4 or 5 other people could do it and check back in too and then blow your bullshit regurgitated lies out of the water.

I'll let you know what my piss looks like then.

>>31348

You literally don't know much of anything about nature except your brainwashing. Being alone is not part of nature and you would avoid it as much as you could.

>>31155

No it is not made out of soy

>>31303

<get enslaved by Jewish bankers!

<give them your house!

You have to to back –→ https://www.4chan.org

>>31393

>You literally don't know much of anything about nature except your brainwashing.

I don't know where you live but around here we have freezing cold winters and very hot summers. If you don't have shelter and some way to keep warm in the winter and cool in the summer you're going to get sick and be very miserable. So yes a homestead helps a whole lot.

You claim I don't know about nature? I challenge you to go camping off-grid without shelter and find your own clean water. Be very careful of streams you drink from, many contain dangerous bacteria and you wouldn't notice a thing until after you drank from it. Common practice in Boy Scouts back in the day was to learn to filter water in nature so you don't get disease or horribly sick.

>Being alone is not part of nature and you would avoid it as much as you could.

What I'm saying is you need a place to call home, unless you want to live like a fucking animal in the wild and take all those risks I mentioned above. Try camping off-grid for a whole week with only a few basic supplies in the woods. Now compare that difficulty to living that way all the time without home ownership or a homestead or cabin.

The best suggestion for bugging-out I can give anyone is to learn about nature, weather patterns and the local wildlife. That and having a place of your own for shelter during harsh climates.

>>31451

Good luck having a decent normal life without a job and a place to call home then. All I was providing was a common sense tip to actually make a decent living and provide a roof over your head. I guess you rather the government provide you with all that though. Or maybe you like having to live in shitty leftist overpriced cities?

>>31461

>>31452

The very reason communes in the 1960s died out within one decade and all the hippies moved back to their parent's home or got a job to support themselves.

>>31472

So you missed another fucking point?

Less populated, more spread out areas are much much safer to weather this storm! The biggest die off, by far, will be the centralized populated cities.

>>28762

kek

>>31388

>>30786

Okay. I ended the dry fast 3.5 hours short (an hour ago). Doing the one arm push ups and one leg squats made my nauseous and I felt I was close enough to my objective that a couple hours after doing them I ended it.

I think it was a good experience and I feel the internal map of my body and even mind has improved.

I would do it again. Maybe whilst being more active than I was this time, going for walks and a few push ups a few times a day. I think I may have created a few light adaptations that would help out the second time around.

My piss was pretty dark but not coffee dark. If I went 72 hours it might be.

I wouldn't recommend someone with a demanding job do this. If you lead an active life: I'd recommend eating a shit ton of greens and fruit and a very high quality multi-vitamin (maybe liquid) and some cold pressed cod oil or krill oil for a couple weeks, then doing 24 hours every third day for a week, every second day for a week, three days off and then trying for 36 hours every third day (making it half no-drink, half drink) for a week, take 3 days off, then try 48 hours without water on a weekend, then dry fast 16 hours each day (8 hours in the morning, midday or evening to eat and drink) until the weekend and go for a 56 hour dry fast.

This seems like a reasonable progression to me to use as a baseline. Modify it how you will.

I did a dry fast and dry food would have made it worse. No food isn't bad at all.

If you're trying a one-off, just do 48 hours on the weekend. Pre-load on somewhat salty water and some vitamins, and various vegetables mostly bitter green.

>>31452

>Common practice in Boy Scouts back in the day was to learn to filter water in nature so you don't get disease or horribly sick.

Cant you just boil any kind of water and you're left with a clean alternative? I'm starting to realize if SHTF I'm probably going to actually die and I don't even have kids yet (23).

Things I know I need, "Food, Water, Shelter, Security"

For food I figure I can stock up on cans or whatever but I literally don't know how to hunt and if I did I don't know how to skin and clean animals to cook them. I've never done it. I'm completely dependent on the markets to continue to work for my survival to be ensured and its depressing. I think I'm smart and I've got a strong body but I've been prepping myself for comfy computer work that pays well. I haven't been rough necking it my whole life. I'd say my chances at survival are slim if everything goes down. I can go out and buy cans but what do I do once those are empty? I'm completely fucked. I can figure out security and shelter myself and I know how to keep myself warm. I like to think building a fire will come easy but I should probably practice it anyways. The tarp idea I read above is likely to be useful, I work construction as it is now anyways so I know how to use a friggin hammer to build shit. Honestly Idk what I'll do. The only benefit I have is my environment, I live out in da woods so its not like I'll be dealing with rat utopia shit but I'm worried about the rats that DO make it out of the city, they'll basically be looking to raid and loot whatever they sweep past and if they make it off route 4 onto my road I'm probably fucked. I can't afford a gun right now and all I've got is a fucking lame ninja sword and an unsharpened knife. I still am praying that corona won't kill me and that this is all just a way over hyped internet thing. But every day it seems more and more likely that this is actually a real happening. Can anyone helpful anon please explain or help me out? I live in New Hampshire. What are my best options? Should I just be a "based coofer" and just ride it out hardcore style? A few days ago I was confident enough that I wouldn't get infected and I still have faith in that I wont, but I'm not convinced I'm free from fucking basic survival shit like feeding/defending myself. I figure if I'm asking an anonymous message board what I should do then I've already lost, but maybe theres some hope left.

>>56322

Some do boil it, others in the past have taught how to filter water with various things like charcoal, sand and cheese cloth. Really depends on the scout master I guess.

I guess my first question is do you have at least a car with a trunk and roomy back seat, or better a compact pickup truck. With either of those you should be able to carry enough to get you through 6 to 8 months in good shape. They wont be the most comfortable months, but you will be fed and probably stay relatively healthy. Without a vehicle however, I cant tell you enough how difficult what your asking will be to do. Maybe 30 days or 45 very rough days but those are way outside the box estimations. More like 15 okay days or 30 days of hell on earth would be more accurate. If you do not have the survival skills training you are going to die out there son. I've been there, and even as well trained as I am you are at the mercy of where you happen to be. And a "denseish" city forest is about as bad a place as I can imagine for you to be, unless maybe it's the snow of the arctic regions I guess. And they might actually be better for you as far as finding food is concerned.

>>56322

>I literally don't know how to hunt and if I did I don't know how to skin and clean animals to cook them. I've never done it.

>I'm completely dependent on the markets to continue to work for my survival to be ensured and its depressing.

I'm going to recommend you stock up on supplies and bug in at this point. Hunting and butchering takes practice and it's not for everyone. It's hard work too. Another thing you need to keep in mind is weather conditions (which can kill if you get lost or stuck out in the middle of nowhere). Certain wildlife can be dangerous too, you have to know what to look out for.

>I like to think building a fire will come easy but I should probably practice it anyways.

Yes, you need to practice this. Anyone thinks it's easy at first without fuel. But consider conditions like lots of wind, if tinder and wood is damp from rain or snow, your limited supply of lighters or matches too. Setting a bonfire is easy during the summer nights when weather is calm. But that won't always be the case. And if you build a fire from scratch you better have something to cut and chop logs and smaller branches.

Be careful if you are doing anything with a chainsaw, I have a nasty story about that but I won't get into the details, but sawing down the big branches should be dealt with from someone who has some experience. The weight of them is a danger alone depending how you guide them down, the last thing you'd want is your sawblade to buckle under pressure and the chain to snap (that can cause some nasty injury). Not to mention you'd want to do this from a safe angle and have a good grip so you don't have an accident when the branch comes falling down, trees can wiggle and joggle from above. Most lumberjacks have a partner with them anyway to help guide the branches down with rope from below.

>>28355

I'd stay put unless I had a really good reason to leave (like a well stocked cache or travel arrangements to anywhere outside of china.)

If you get caught wandering around you'll end up in a Wuhan "hospital" which is worse than being sealed in your own apartment.

>>56356

>Some do boil it, others in the past have taught how to filter water with various things like charcoal, sand and cheese cloth

I suppose I could look into learning this as well. Thanks for the info.

>>56363

>I'm going to recommend you stock up on supplies and bug in at this point

If I bug in that'll cover my shelter but I wouldn't know any security measures outside of "point and shoot whoever B&Es". There's only a handful of people I could trust to invite but then that means more mouths to feed and I don't want to deal with that. Should I just start learning how to "Home Alone" my house and property? I think it'd be easier to stay in at this point, you're probably right. I'm unprepared and I was expecting this to be nothing like it always is and damn it I still hope it is. But I'm pretty convinced now, once/if the internet goes down I don't know what'll happen or what everyone will do. Can only hope to stay safe and have fun right? Not that I imagine struggling to survive is fun but I'll try to stay positive.

Any other helpful advice is welcomed.

>>56415

>If I bug in that'll cover my shelter but I wouldn't know any security measures outside of "point and shoot whoever B&Es".

Pretty much, unfortunately this is likely to happen to most of us at some point and we have to be ready for it. I would recommend investing in some katy bars for any of your entry doors (typically front and back doors). Look into doorjamb fortification too for your deadbolt locks. You'll want to have extra deadbolts installed for each entry door, with the doorjambs fortified by long strike plates. (Door jambs are typically 2x4 and 1" pine wood for the door frames). The 1" pine is not enough to secure a deadbolt so you want 3" steel screws to secure the strike plates into the 2x4 as well along the doorjamb. This makes the locks and doors kick-proof (you would need extra force to bust those doors open). The Katy Bars add extra defensive measures often installing 2 for each door will make it batter-ram proof (one near the top of the door and one near the bottom: typically they have installation instructions). Why this is recommended is it makes B&E very difficult for the average person (even a B&E pro). If you happen to face a militant force they'd have to use an explosive to get through. As long as you have enough "reaction time" while an enemy combatant is trying to get in, you could easily engage them or fire a warning shot.

If the internet or power ever goes down in the local area that would be a tell tale sign to get ready for possible conflict.

>>56357

A box truck or RV would be pretty comfy. You could have a small mattress for the back of the box truck and put some supplies back there too. Have some extra blankets for when it gets cold, and an extra pare of boots. Limited room but it would do as long as you can replenish some essentials along the way. There are areas far outside the city across the vast US where you could lay low for a while without being noticed much if at all. You'd also have time to drive around too to find places you could re-supply. Gas would be the main concern if SHTF. Have some extra gas stored in a seal tight 5 gallon metal tank in the back (make sure it is secure back there). Have some fuel stabilizer for the gas so it can last longer, you don't want to accidentally fill your tank with gas that goes bad. Paper Atlas and any state maps you might need (don't rely on that bullshit GPS that doesn't read God damn nothing in real America). Hope that helps.

>>56433

> I would recommend investing in some katy bars for any of your entry doors

>Look into doorjamb fortification too for your deadbolt locks

Can do. I've also got a sliding panel door made of glass in the back that I'm worried about. I'm thinking I can just board it up the best I can with some half inch? I'm thinking about crossing some 2x4 over it like a barn door has but if theres some other effective way thats better than that I'm all ears.

>unfortunately this is likely to happen to most of us at some point and we have to be ready for it

Guess I'm just gonna have to do my best however I can, I just can't think of failing as an option because it can mean death at this point. I hopped into this thread because it was a survival thread but I don't want to just be asking questions all by myself, mainly because I wouldn't know all the right ones to ask. Is there something anons have used in the past that seemed like a tinfoil guide then that would actually be really practical now? I've seen prepper threads in the past but there's not a /general/ for them really. I'm not helpless, I just don't have the knowledge of any of this stuff because I really never thought I would need it. The world seemed too big to fail, I know social tensions were likely to spark from friction but I didn't expect everything to collapse. In a way it feels like a refreshing start but at the same time it looks like a trial of the ages. Never before have we had a population like this and I'm damn sure the worlds never had a population like this thats so massively dependent on the global order. If shit starts to fly its going to REALLY fly.

>>56510

>I've also got a sliding panel door made of glass in the back that I'm worried about.

Yes that is a real threat, big time. What I would do is get some thick treated plywood (maybe a couple boards to overlay making the barricade more sturdy). What I would do is knock out the drywall all around the glass doorframe to see what you have to work with, chances are there are 2 or 3 2x4s along each side. If so perfect! Get a electric drill and a wood bore bit, and drill nice sized holes through the doorframes on each edge (make sure you level them out right one side to the other side), get some long bolts, washers and nuts for those so you can mount them and push the bolts through from the outside. Go back in and clamp those bolts in with washers and nuts. Then take the plywood and do the measurements, and drill the holes on each end of the plywood matching where those to the bolts. Then mount the plywood to the bolts with more washers and nuts. It's basically a new wall covering the whole glass door. Hope that works. But assess everything before going to the hardware store first, you want to know measurements and the right sizes of the bore bits, bolts, washers and nuts too, along with the plywood.

>>56610

>For the wood bit are you thinking a 1" bit and a 1"x10" galvanized bolt?

That may do it, but you'd have to do the measurements. I'd suggest first knocking out some of that drywall on the sides just to see how much wood there is to work with for those frames. You should also open that glass door to and measure the width of the frame from the outside to the inside and then consider how long you need those bolts to stick out to mount the plywood. You don't want them too short, or too long either.

>I could probably find some wall braces or L bars and get the bolts and clamps off of those and utilize them.

Not a bad idea if you can make it work, just make sure you know the measurements and all before running to the hardware store. It's a pain having to get something wrong and have to drive all the way back lol.

>>56610

As far as respirators I'm no expert but I do have a couple P100s with the filters for them. My opinion is that as long as you remain bugged in and stay away from public areas as much as possible you don't have a very likely chance to catch corona. I may be wrong though, don't know. However I would also suggest some Lysol spray to spray down any packages that you have delivered to your door. I heard one anon said he heats his mail in the oven, lol, that might work fine too as far as mitigating the virus.

>>56637

The grand majority of masks and respirators are going to be useless against viruses. White surgical mask are more for keeping you from spraying infected breath at other people than be an effective preventive.

The Lysol spray is for bacteria not viruses. Spaying that crap all over is what is contributing to all our anti-bacterial failing. If you kill 99% of germs the 1% left are not only the strongest but you've also wiped out their competition.

>>56637

> Anon who puts mail in the oven

That's me. And I do much more than that.

Protocol for mail:

> Change into jumpsuit

> Gloves

> 90% rubbing alcohol

> Clorox wipes

> Spray bottle with 1% bleach solution

> Plastic bag and aluminum foil

> Walk to the gate

> Slosh rubbing alcohol on gloved hands

> Open gate with wet hands, leave open

> Walk down to mailbox

> Use Clorox wipes on outside of mailbox

> Open mailbox with left hand

> Mail goes in left hand

> Walk back through gate

> Meet wife outside garage

> She's gloved and has a 2-gallon plastic bag open for me

> Mail goes in bag

> Wife seals bag and waits

> Walk back down to gate

> More rubbing alcohol on gloved hands

> Alcohol and Clorox wipes all over the gate

> Close gate

> Back to garage

> Spray bleach solution all over bag

> More rubbing alcohol

> Gloves come off

> More alcohol

> Lay out the foil

> Wife puts bag on foil

> Wrap bag in foil

> More rubbing alcohol, everywhere

> Wife uses rubbing alcohol, takes off gloves, more alcohol

> Jumpsuit goes into a cooler filled with borax solution, soaking for 48 hours before being washed

> More rubbing alcohol

> Wipe-down all door handles with alcohol

> Shower with Betadine soap

> Foil packet goes into oven at 130degF for twelve hours

> Replacement credit card gets a little melted

> Numbers on card activate anyways

> Order more supplies

That's for paper mail, which can't be reasonably sanitized with bleach or alcohol.

My protocol for packages is similar. The exterior of the package is drenched with bleach solution. Then I cart it off to the shop/barn in a wheelbarrow, which also gets sanitized with alcohol and is left in the shop under the UV-C light. Open the package, box goes into a corner, to be burned after two weeks.

The package contents get put into another room in the shop, under a UV-C germicidal light, rotating them twice daily to expose every surface to the death-rays. They stay there, under the light for at least a week.

Plastic stuff tends to get bleached, and it allowed to air-dry.

Metal items get rubbing alcohol.

Organic stuff, like food, get UV-C exposure.

I also put up a strand of electric hot-wire to keep my dogs away from deliverymen and neighbors who might come near the fence/gate.

>>57068

Nice you got this down to protocol. You must have a whole lot of supplies in backup to do this, which is good. I have quite a bit stocked up too lol. I currently spray my packages down with lysol but also should be very careful with mail (stupid me). I'll consider some the techniques you use as I have much of the same supplies in my backup as you do.

As for UV-C lighting can you find that at the average harddware store or do you need to get it from an industrial/agricultural retailer chain like NT?

>>57081

> Where can UV-C germicidal bulbs be obtained?

I'm not sure where to get them locally. I ordered one a while back that I'm using, and I have two more that are supposed to arrive today.

They're commonly used in HVAC systems to kill bacteria and mold, and they're also occasionally used for water treatment. You might be able to find them at the hardware store, or at a far/garden/pet store. Your best bet would be an HVAC supplier.

>>57157

>Your best bet would be an HVAC supplier.

Thanks, I'll ask someone I know who is into that line of work, he would likely be one who knows. Hopefully the cost is not too high (I could likely afford it regardless but where I would set it up and to utilize it would need some thought and planning).

>>56633

>just make sure you know the measurements and all before running to the hardware store. It's a pain having to get something wrong and have to drive all the way back lol.

I work construction so I know what its like to waste a trip.

>>56637

>My opinion is that as long as you remain bugged in and stay away from public areas as much as possible you don't have a very likely chance to catch corona.

Thats hopeful.

>>57068

I'm flabberghasted by the amount of money wasting guys you all do.

Do you want to keep your disposable plastic gloves or why the multiple disinfectant layering? The best thing you can do is to not touch anything. Fully protect your face and have a safe air intake (gas mask with breathing bag). I'm not a quarantine expert but your protocol seems a bit overkill and a waste of money.

Far UV-C absolutely destroys all DNA but it barely (if not at all) penetrates multiple sheets of paper.

I advise you to build an ozone generator with two copper wires, a motor for circulating air (ruined hardryers or something) and a capacitor etc…

>http://freenrg.info/TESLA/Tesla_patents_made_simple.htm

Here is the patent.

>With sports locker rooms having witnessed the spread of the infection – which resists antibiotics, has debilitating health effects and can even prove fatal – organizations are turning to ozone-generating sanitizing machines that clean and deodorize all sorts of gear, including sports equipment. As the New York Times reported recently, Colgate University, in its determination to prevent the spread of MRSA and other bacteria, has begun using these $14,000 units.

<14000$ per unit LMAO

>ozone onsite so there is no need for consumables. Since ozone is a gas, it can deodorize and sanitize those hard to reach places on your equipment, making sure you get a greater than 99.9% kill rate of bacteria, viruses and molds

SAUCE: https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/10/16/know-your-ozone-its-good-bad-and-bacteria-blasting-11968

Ozone kills anything including viruses and also disinfects water, destroys smell, oxidizes harmful metals, destroys urea, detoxifies cyanides in water and dissipates from the water without residue. You can use it forever as long as you have electricity and do not breathe it in. Disinfect things by placing it in a glass/plastic box/bag with it or something that seals. For disinfecting a house or a room it will take many hours to reach 0.1ppm and obviously you need to evacuate the place during that. Radical oxygen is what your immune system uses to destroy infection, which is why your tissue gets inflammation. That is why anti-oxidants are so important for not dying by overreacting to infection and turning your organs off (aka sepsis, aka coronavirus instakill).

>Sepsis is a potentially life-threatening condition caused by the body's response to an infection. The body normally releases chemicals into the bloodstream to fight an infection. Sepsis occurs when the body's response to these chemicals is out of balance, triggering changes that can damage multiple organ systems.

Ozone is a WAY stronger oxidizer. Use your disinfectant on your body instead, use Hydrogen Peroxide on your plants instead of pesticides with spraybottles. kills germs and shit in the soil. It's what nature uses to disinfect during rainfall when there's lightningstorm (none anymore after geoengineering. Thanks CIA niggers). It works just as well and breaks down from sunlight (after awhile) into water and oxygen. You can use it on your skin and wash your mouth with it. There are other uses to it in high concentrations like etching your own PCB boards or using at as rocket fuel and things that might get the attention of counter-terrorist forces… Do not be a retard and ingest it. Do not use it on open wounds. In small amounts it irritates your stomach but in high concentration it is harmful and irritates your skin and mucus. You can store peroxide in high concentration and dilute it tenfold, add it to rainwater for plants, disinfect clothes etc… Keep it in dark! You can make peroxide at home. You can by 3% or 30% peroxide off the counter but beware of additives!! Go to a drugstore to make sure you get only that in the bottle. If they ask it is for killing algae. To save storage space you can concentrate it up to 70% by boiling the water away since it boils at 150C. Since the concentration becomes a guesswork I do not recommend it.

>>57068

>>57537

Other things you might find interesting:

>The most common air disinfection method is using ultraviolet (UV) radiation. UV radiation (UV-C) kills bacteria and viruses by damaging the DNA/RNA ofthe cells of microorganisms. However, UV radiation could only disinfect airclose to the lamps as UV light has limited penetration capacity. In case ofSARS contaminated room, UV disinfection alone is not adequate to provide virus-free environment for us.

>Another well-known air cleaning method is to employ High Efficiency Particulate Air (HEPA) filter. HEPA filter can capture particulate sizes down to 0.3 microns

>it is not effective to remove viruses, which are nanometer (10-9 m) in size. Also, air must pass through the filter in order for it to be cleaned. Hence HEPA filters can only clean air that is within a short distance of the HEPA unit. These drawbacks make HEPA filters become an unsatisfactory candidate for disinfection of SARS contaminated areas.

>Chemical disinfectants could also be used for air disinfection, usually by means of vaporizing or spraying. However, these chemical disinfectants are usually difficult to decompose, leaving toxic chemical residues that are hazardous to human health.

>Ozone is a well-known powerful oxidizer which could kill microorganisms effectively. Ozone applications in water and wastewater treatments are well-documented and it is widely used by most of the modern cities. Although studies for using ozone to disinfect air are relatively limited, experimental results (2,3) indicate that ozone could also be an effective air disinfectant as in water. For example, Kowalski et al (2) investigated the bactericidal effects of high ozone concentrations on E. coli and S. aureus and concluded that more than 99.99% death rate was achieved for both species after ozonation.

<Unlimited oxygen + electricity = UNLIMITED POWER

>In addition to the strong oxidizing power of ozone, properties of ozone also help it to be an ideal aerial disinfectant. In contrast to UV radiation and HEPA filter, ozone is a gas that could penetrate to every corners of the room, thus it could disinfect the entire room effectively. As ozone is unstable, it is readily converted back to oxygen, leaving no harmful residual ozone after disinfection.

>Although ozone is success as an aerial disinfectant in laboratory experiments (1), its effectiveness in real situation needs to be further explored. In this article, the effectiveness of ozone in disinfection of a conference room will beevaluated and discussed.

>In fact, ozone is a much stronger oxidizer than other common disinfectants such as chlorine and hypochlorite

>environmentally friendly

>But its application in air disinfection is not as popular as water due to the concern on ozone’s toxicity

>the best reduction percentage in our case was around 93% only (..) because the conference room was not 100% sealed

>As viruses are generally more susceptible to ozone than bacteria, it could assume that all viruses are killed if large percentage of airborne bacteria are removed.

>Depends on the contamination level, 0.5 – 2.5 ppm ozone level is adequate for air disinfection

Read it through.

SARS is a good one since coronavirus is pretty much a "type" of SARS.

https://www.ozonetech.com/sites/default/files2/pdf/Ozone_disinfection_of_SARS_Contaminated_Areas.pdf

>>57680

If you're able to get a n95/p100 respirator mask, like the ones painters use

>>57687

>>57680

N95's are only good for like 8 hours, with peak efficacy being the first 2 or 3 hours. N99's and P100's are better because they last a fuckton longer and have replaceable filters.

Ok, assuming I'm Chinese and following Chinese laws that means I can't have a gun.

So, pepperspray for animals, backpacking tent, those yellow military ration bars, big knife, disposable lighter, flint rod, premade tinder, pool shock for making bleach to disinfect water, lifestraw, basic cookware, wet wipes, TP, as much water as I can carry. Aside from that I might take a VHF/UHF radio for weather and communication and pen flares in case I get cucked by a panda or some shit.

>>28376

Learning to build a Dakota fire hole in the desert behind my high school during lunch, catch and cook rabbits, and figuring out how to find water is probably the best thing I've ever done in terms of my survivability.

>>28376

Also… I like my KA-BAR a lot. Best knife I've ever had, good fighting and utility.

>>57859

>Ok, assuming I'm Chinese and following Chinese laws

>following Chinese laws

That's what would end up in a fate worse than death. Assuming you do intend to live on MREs and bug out during martial law I'd recommend you have a box full of matches. Some lighters. Something like Fire-Lite for harsh weather if you need to get a fire started. Some hothand hand warmers. Blankets. A cot or sleeping bag. A tent. Pepper spray is fine but bear spray is much more effective at disabling a threat and some can spray up to 12 feet away, a good switchblade, yes those lifestraws will do so will water purification tablets but you should also learn to decontaminate water (boiling or DIY filtering), learn to fish and trap (check outdoor retail chains for what you need), radio is good but expect certain areas to be jammed when SHTF or at least intercepted to track those red flagged [paranoia can save your life], good flares you can get at any Loves truck stop, rope, tarps, a flashlight with some extra batteries, garbage bags, only so much TP you can carry (I'd recommend portawipes that will save a lot of storage space in your truck or RV), an atlas and state maps are a must and be sure to have extra gas storage for emergencies w/ fuel stabilizer and of-course lots of beef jerky for the road.

>>28376

are you me?

>>28355

Well your bug out bag should have everything you need for two days without support.

You don't need a toothbrush for two days, or vitamins, or a hair comb, or a cast iron pan.

You need a backup fire source, food that's ready to eat, clothes and shelter you can rely on.

this is the bag you will take to get you to your cache, or as an emergency if you are separated from your supplies.

I keep my plan B stuff in here, because if plan A goes well I can always get my main bag, that's a common mistake. mistaking things you use most for essentials.

For instance once when kayaking we lost a pack with all our shit in it, but my bag had two days food and a waterproof plastic we used to set up and recover the supplies which were downriver.

Your main bag should have things like a longer term shelter, large reserves of food (yea huge amounts) and fuel, long term medical provisions

But mostly food, on a camping trip your medical care is more a priority than starvation because of rescue- if nobody is coming starvation is your third biggest threat after dehydration, exposure and injury.

But you have to try these things, knowing is not enough if you don't do; and doing won't be enough if you don't practice.

on my first few trips I made so many mistakes and you will as well.

>>28765

It was commercialised.

I remebember when the scouts taught you skills and planning. Now people only know buying and fearing

LARPERS like this >>57863

when the fick have you or anyone else stabbed a living thing with a kbar?

you're knife is .05% of what you do, I do week long hikes with just the tin lid from a soup can or sharp stones.

>>57790

these are actually great, but it really depends on the material they are made from, if it's just some chinese nylon shit the wind will go straight through it and it will loose it's shape.

for wind chill in places it's not cold they are great, also to stop insects.

By washing them in streams regularly they keep you cleaner

>>58320

In china phones are being actively monitored and paired with facial recognition and forced bluetooth data.

Several people I know have been detained by chinese security for "not having a sim card" or "turning their phone off".

It also picks up on multiple devices (credit cards, phones, wifi connections) belonging to the same person being used in different locations.

Faced with a domestic threat, OPFOR will immediately take control of communication centers and disable them if this is not possible- the only services available are likely to be from independent operators and will be short lived.

One big issue is that receiving one way coms it's very hard to verify anything you hear, you're very vulnerable to disinfo and will struggle to know if broadcasters have a gun at their head.

Mobile phones will be important before you bug out though, before you leave you can gain/relay important information about what's happening (eg. send a signal to others)

Satellite phones will be safe to use for a bit longer, even if they can be triangulated you will still be on the move, OPFOR will still be in early stages and you will likely be a low priority.

Power and internet may go out immediately, but water will probably stay on until maintenance causes it to fail, the reason is because mains water keeps people in their homes and helps people moving into an area more than it helps those entrenched there.

The main issue with digging in is that a single sweep is likely to force you out of the area and cut you off from you supplies, and a single observation position is likely to be able to work out where you are over a period of time. A light from a fire at night or a flashlight, a loud noise from the felling of a tree of stones falling.

Expect OPFOR to use fire lookouts and gas stations because they aren't expecting attack and the positions are too easy and advantageous.

If Partisans or civilians fleeing in woodland pose too much of a threat OPFOR may start forest fires- or forest fires may be started by stupid civvies.

What you really want is:

A. a kit that will give you an immediate mobility advantage, you weigh less then people you are running from and can get a head start on other light troops arriving/people still packing. use this to outmaneuver OPFOR and retrieve your cache of supplies before anyone else reaches the area. for this reason proceed directly.

B. your first cache, which should include replacements to pieces of kit you are likely to abandon in the first stage (rain coats, socks, flares, tents).

If vehicles can't reach your cache site it's worth storing a five day hiking ration here which allows you to push out further.

You shouldn't set up at your primary cache site because your direction of movement will have been too telling and you will be close enough that light forces and civilians without supplies could stumble onto your site.

Ideally in case you are slow this should be somewhere where you could retrieve it discreetly, where nobody would take position by chance and in an area you could defend.

The middle of a clearing (hard to be discreet), a gully (hard to defend) an abandoned building or radio tower (already occupied) would all be poor choices.

Good choices would be in a mineshaft, in a crevice or cave (these can easily be widened and covered) or near the ridgeline of a low hill.

C. several rest sites where you can hide out and recover your strength without being seen, after a week on the move you will need it. At this point light forces will not be able to reach you without setting up a support station (like your first cache). Your primary threat will be from advanced observation positions (most likely irregular enemy forces already in the area), a real reconnaissance (helicopters at night with thermals) and ultimately arial insertions.

It's the same formula for search and rescue, manhunts, narco opps- even tracking endangered animals.

Swamp where they were last seen, fan out until manpower is stretched too thinly, send for a chopper.

Ran quickly, picked up supplies and kept running- then hid far away and stayed underground you would escape

In that case we would set up covert surveillance at extraction points like road junctions, trailheads, petrol stations- you really think rangers get all those hidden wildlife cameras because the state cares so much about animals?

In open country the same strategy holds true, but you would need a vehicle for part A of your exit and you would need fox holes already dug.

In urban areas things are different and you would have to make it by stealth to the outskirts of the city where you would retrieve your first cache.

>>58229

>You need a backup fire source, food that's ready to eat, clothes and shelter you can rely on.

<You need …

<shelter you can rely on.

That's the whole point about bugging out ironically. Many think bugging out is simply about living with nature when in reality it is further from the truth. The truth is you will need another shelter or homestead (or automobile as safe haven). Sure you can camp for a few days but even then you need some kind of basic practice (like scouting as a youth). Unless you have a lot of experience and have lived in the real world you won't fare too well out there. Not saying you don't know this but many others have failed to realize this in the past and that is why people die out there.

>>58909

Good tips to know but always remember you should not rely on coms as they are easily intercepted and compromised in other ways. The best thing is to have physical access to information: atlas, state maps, army manuals and field guides. Not having to rely on anything digital (including those newer vehicles with GPS trackers and software controls) can be a huge advantage.

>>28376

>I love you motherfuckers, even you alphabetfags so if you have any questions tell me.

One question but I can't get into details because it could compromise me. I know someone I really care about, this person is not on board with everything going on, somewhat a normie, should I trust this person even though this person has been warned several times? If SHTF this kind of person possibly could compromise my security and well being. What should I do or what would you do if faced with the same situation?

>>58925

yea, larpers plan on just living in the woods like peter pan- like a days walk from their houses.

To be balanced there's protection by degrees- in a local emergency life a flood going on a two day camping trip is fine.

And /k/omandos make it work, some would learn the hard way- we all will to some degree.

>>58940

I agree, but at the same time our initial response relies entirely about receiving timely warnings about pending happenings- if there isn't an independent HAM operator who keeps a 24h broadcast you are really going to rely on people you know phoning you with warnings.

>>58963

I used to take day hikes and to get totally unprepared people /out/ was a total nightmare.

packing sentimental objects, bring pets (yes really), unwillingness to suffer physically, won't leave their tent, won't wake up, cannot grasp the vital nature of some tasks and the nature of some risks, won't buddy up, leaves fires burning, won't stay on coms

You simply don't have time to explain to them WHY and you need them to do it NOW- and ultimately you can't force them to.

It will just be one thing after another.

A good approach is to leave physical instruction for them to get to a waypoint- if they cannot follow the instructions (bringing extra people, not bringing supplies) or do not arrive it's better you didn't bring them.

Will post some /out/ disaster stories if anyone's interested

>>28426

Tell that to all the 14 year olds who came across the Anarchist Cookbook on Encyclopedia Dramatica.

>>58981

>A good approach is to leave physical instruction for them to get to a waypoint- if they cannot follow the instructions (bringing extra people, not bringing supplies) or do not arrive it's better you didn't bring them.

Yes I have tried this. Its difficult, the relative I care about agrees with a lot of issues that are brought up. But when it comes to prepping or actually doing something productive it seems hopeless. It is like someone who is aware of certain threats but thinks the government or the establishment will take care of it all. I have tried to get through but it does not seem to work well. It is not a financial issue either, so it's not like this person has too much to lose or cannot afford doing something. I have even offered to help out but the help is rejected. So I may try one more time but if it doesn't work out, so be it, we will fend for ourselves when the crisis peaks. Not the biggest deal but I would morn if there was loss of life over it.

>>58981

>Will post some /out/ disaster stories if anyone's interested

Yes feel free to if you desire.

>>57537

> Wasting money

I work from home, so I don't go through supplies very quickly. Throughout all of this, I have used less than a box of gloves (maybe $23), one bottle of 90% alcohol (cost less then $2), one bottle of 70% alcohol (about $1.50), and half a bottle of bleach (about $10). I already use these items, but I'll admit I probably won't go through my current stock for a couple years of normal use.

I also spent about $320 on a 50-pack of P100 filters (which are now out of stock until the end of March, and now cost $375), and another $250 on respirators (I bought more than one, in different sizes, and a full-face mask for myself). I don't think I'll recoup any of this, but it will be life-saving if I do need it. Additionally, I'm loaning my extra/unused respirators to the local police. I've also given them some of my P100 filters, since they can be rotated/sanitized and reused to a limited extent. If the local cops find utility in the equipment I've supplied, then my judgement is validated.

The real expense has been food. But my family needs food anyways, so all I've done is pre-purchase the next year's worth of groceries.

>>58981

show us disaster and self destruction

>>59370

As a doomsday prepper myself for many years I would like to thank you for sharing your strategy and protocols for dealing with this corona bioweapon outbreak. I always had some basic gear stocked up to prevent contamination and/or fallout but I had no clue about UV-C lighting or how to go about dealing with a bioweapon outbreak - for the reason I have always focused on preparing for other events like economic collapse / civil wars / foreign occupations / communist takeovers. You sharing this info has helped me and others a lot, that I can tell you. I am currently setting up all the things I need to deal with this and should be done within the next week or hopefully earlier. I just hope to God I'm not too late or already infected by now lol.

>>60553

> Somebody on 8kun is nice to me

WTF has this world come to?

Looking back, there are additional supplies that we're using up. But almost all of it is stuff we already horde, like bags and borax.

If the power goes out, I have no plan to replace it. Our strategy is to go pre-industrial if there is no power. We have a masonry heater to heat the house, and curing salts to preserve our frozen meat. Eggs can be preserved via glassing, which involves storing them in a sodium hydroxide solution.

My chief issue is that we were planning to move this summer. We gave away our chickens and coops, have no grain stored, and only enough firewood for the remainder of this year. But deer like to graze in my front yard, and I'm not adverse to using a salt-lick and spotlight if needed. I have tens-of-thousands of rounds of ammo, plenty of guns, and spare parts to build/repair more guns.

I have just enough solar power to charge phones and radios, and a 1KW power inverter I can hook-up to the truck if needed. Extra cans of treated fuel too, more than I would normally use in a year.

Two HAM radios, and six CB radios; hunting unit maps of all the surrounding areas, compasses and the training to use them.

We're on a private well, but I purchased an emergency tank when we lived in the city, and I keep it full of treated water.

I also keep plenty of food-grade plastic barrels, which I normally use to brew beer and wine. I plan to fill them with water too once I unpack their contents.

Hundreds of pounds of rice, beans, gluten-free flour, hominy flour, quinoa, split peas, lard, canned meats, freeze-dried veggies, and a convenience store's worth of goodies for the kids.

We also have a commercial dehydrator, which I use to make our own beef jerky. But it will also dry herbs and veggies, as well as make yogurt.

A lot of our shit is packed though, and some of our supplies are low because of the move. It's starting to look like we're not going to relocate to Idaho this year.

I really hope that I don't need to break into the radiological supplies. iOsat tablets aren't cheap, but they'll keep my kids from getting thyroid cancer if the shit hit the fan and blows downwind.

>>60591

>iodine tablets

If you have to rely on those tablets you will be dead in a few years or tens of years most likely.

i131 is only one part of the cocktail.. sr90, c137 and many other less common radioisotopes all will bioaccumulate in you and your food sources if grown outside. You literally need to get out of the plume and the fallout area for years. Wearing masks will only get you so far and they will be used up very quickly. Most CBRN canisters have 60 minutes use in such situations… even a prepper with many filters is pushing it to walk their way out of that one unless it's a limited size plume. Good luck burger homestead anon (I recognize you from /cvg/), shit ain't looking too flash over your way right now.

>>60591

>WTF has this world come to?

It's end.

>>60591

>My chief issue is that we were planning to move this summer.

Well I wish you and your family luck if/when you do move and I would hope you find a nice little nest outside the cities for SHTF and becoming self-sufficient. Hopefully you will have a couple acres or so for gardening, collecting rain water [do it out back if there are any regulations against that or well water would be nice too] and typical homesteading away from populated areas.

>I have just enough solar power to charge phones and radios, and a 1KW power inverter I can hook-up to the truck if needed.

I'd recommend, if you can afford to, looking into some basic options for powering utilities off grid (I am referring to things like a box freezer and refrigerator to prevent spoiling of frozen foods if the power goes down).

>We have a masonry heater to heat the house

I have a wood burning stove myself for winter, have not had any central heating for a long ass time.

>Two HAM radios, and six CB radios; hunting unit maps of all the surrounding areas, compasses and the training to use them.

Have an atlas and state maps too as they are pretty handy. If I were to ever move I would be looking at state maps for various areas or small towns that might be strategically safe (and then go from there and try to find whatever is available to purchase or mortgage).

>>60591

>>60625

Not trying to shill anything, as I bought this book myself, and I will tell you for a fact this book can come in handy and is loaded to the brim with dire information about every single State in the US. The book is called Strategic Relocation by Joel Skousen. Hopefully it is not too outdated at this point which might be an issue as it was written 10 years ago. It will show you regulation rates, demographics, tax rates, medium income, average cost of living, percentage of federally owned land, corruption rates, has an index for personal freedom ranking state by state and so much more to offer:

http://joelskousen.com/strategic.html

>>60638

>Strategic Relocation

>>60591

<It's starting to look like we're not going to relocate to Idaho this year.

Some basics, so much info I can't post all of it as it is pages long:

Population density: Low: 19 ppl/sq mile. (44th ranking the nation). Hispanic: 10% mixed 1.7%, American Indian: 1.6%, Asian: 1.2%, Black: 1%

Cost of Living Index: Below average. 91.5 (average is 105)

Land and Urban Planning: There are local zoning regulations. Land use planning only at the local level.

Politics: Conservatives predominate everywhere except Northern Idaho which has a liberal bent. Dem 34%, Rep 60%, Ind/third party 6%

Corruption: Low. Some in-state government and metro police, but very little in rural areas. Police and judge conduct is better than average.

Crime: Lower. Violent crime 241/100K, property crime 2116/100K

Personal Liberty: 5 out of 5.

Gun Liberty: Excellent. No permit to purchase firearms. "Shall issue" state for concealed carry. Open carry without a permit, even in a car.

Homeschooling: No regulation. State does not require notification.

Taxes: Higher than average. Up to 7.8% income tax, 6% sales tax, 35th lowest property tax.

That's just a bit of info you get having this kind of book.

>>60609

> Iodine tablets are not a cure-all

Correct, but they'll see us through the first critical weeks of radioactivity.

> Burger homestead anon.

Verzeihung, aber ich bin Americaner.

I live east of the Cascades, in Oregon, and I was born at Fort Bragg Army Hospital. Meine Mutter und mein Vater waren Übersetzer. Grüne Baskenmützen Spezialeinheiten….

The nearest city is about an hour away, with a population of 60k. There is nothing out here except alfalfa fields and cattle. I access the internet via a fixed-wireless solution.

>>60625

> Collect rainwater.

It's illegal to collect rainwater in Oregon. That's one of the reasons we want to move. Granted, I'm not going to follow the rules if SHTF, but I don't already have a system in place because of that.

> Off-grid freezer

Yes, that was an option. But I chose to spend the money on a soapstone masonry heater/oven instead. Smoking and curing meats is the plan if the power goes out and stays out.

> Have an atlas

Covered, 100%. I have unit maps of all the surrounding area, with detailed topo data. The state maps and atlases are in the cars. And I remember my land navigation training from my Civil Air Patrol days, so I'm not intimidated by land navigation without GPS.

>>60638

> Strategic Relocation book

That's nice that there is a single book with the data, but it would be too out of date to be useful. I gather that data manually, eliminate areas with niggers and shitskins, then start looking at groundwater data.

>>60651

> Anon outlines reasons to move to Idaho.

Yes, this was our thinking. We don't like the taxes, but that's outweighed by the other benefits. We were also looking at Tennessee, provided we find a non-nigger area, probably Putnam county.

Gott mit uns

>>60670

>Yes, this was our thinking. We don't like the taxes, but that's outweighed by the other benefits. We were also looking at Tennessee, provided we find a non-nigger area, probably Putnam county.

I won't give too much detail but will also suggest rural MO which is also pretty based in most areas. Problem is some of the real nice locations can be somewhat pricey (talking mostly farm houses w/ barns and big sheds). I've seen some very nice areas to bug out there and there are some tiny towns that won't even show on a state map [Milwood for example] lol. Those would be the prime bug-out areas as they are pretty low key and under the radar. Regardless of St. Louis politics and demographics most rural MO is very white still and majority vote Republican. The downside is there may be some more local regulations which lowers the freedom index to 3 but still considered among the top ten free states in the Strategic Location book.

>>60909

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>>61798

> Are multivitamins worth it?

Vitamins are needed, but multivitamins are expensive compared to food.

In most scenarios, raw calories will be more important than vitamins. The exception might be for children, who require both.

Don't buy multivitamins. Buy dry beans, split peas, lentils, rice, masa flour, quinoa, lard, powdered milk, peanut butter, and canned fruit. If you want to supplement this, get some nutritional yeast, liquid aminos like fish sauce, oyster sauce, or Braggs, and pure vitamin C, which is super-cheap when you buy it in bulk. If you have any money left after purchasing the above, spend it on comfort foods - get some chocolate, coffee, some desiccated eggs, spices, Little Debbie or Hostess, candy, etc.

If you purchase the correct foodstuffs, then multivitamins are a waste of money.

>>62019

This is some astoundingly shitty advice. Multivitamins are way fucking cheaper than food. You can survive for a long fucking time with just flour, water and a multivitamin. Quinoa is retarded hipster faggot nonsense, do not waste space on it. Canned fruit is a waste of space and heavy. Shit like fish sauce is completely useless.

If your goal is to survive a week then you don't need food. You can devote all space to water. Then it becomes a matter of what you can pack.

For a week you will need 14L of water going at 2L per day. This is 14kg.

You will also need a tent, camping mat, blow up pillow and sleeping bag. Thermals are a low weight way to add heat to clothes. All of this will be 6kg at minimum.

You will need a pack that can hold all of the things mentioned. This will weigh about 3kg.

So your total weight is at least 23kg, without food.

If you are camping near a water source then you can cut down the water to 2L for hiking and carry water treatment tablets instead. This gives you much more to play with for other things.

The most energy dense food is oil. Vegetable oils will not go rancid. The easiest protein source to add is milk powder. Canned meats are okay but also have water in them and the can itself which adds to the weight. The different wheat and oat cereals will give you some carbs and also some more protein. You are not worrying about keto here because you are in a survival situation and will most likely lose weight.

If you have no water source but you are in an area with predictable rainfall then you can pack some sort of lightweight water collection device to catch any rain. You would also have a 20L water container to fill up.

If you have no water source and rain is infrequent or unpredictable then your limit is how much water you have with you. In this case you would need to monitor possible emergency conditions before they happen so that you can prepare well in advance. Ideally you would have a water and food cache already prepared in your bug out location. You carry a 20L water container in on your first trip, then an empty 200L barrel on your second trip, empty the container into the barrel, then carry in 20L of water on nine subsequent trips. Each trip after the first two gives you 10 days survival time.

If you are preparing for a long stay then you would start to take in food supplies once your water is at a reasonable level. You would bring in some oil along with the water on the third trip and then some of the other things on the subsequent trips.

If you do not have any of this then surviving alone becomes difficult. You would need a trusted person either at home to send you money or in the country you are visiting. Even this would not get your supplies into your camp. In a real emergency international money transfers might not work. At this stage you would probably be asking yourself what exactly you are doing in a foreign country in the first place.

Import filter masks from China they are dirt cheap and good quality.

>>62343

How did we end up with so many retards here all of a sudden?

>Vegetable oils will not go rancid

Yes they will, that's precisely the problem with (((vegetable oil))). It is unstable polyunsaturated fat which peroxidizes, causing a chain reaction releasing free radicals and turning the whole thing rancid. Saturated fat is stable. Nobody should ever consume (((vegetable oil))) unless there is literally no food available.

>>62083

> Doesn't seem to understand what I'm arguing, indicates that multivitamins are a good deal.

Yeah, I dunno about that. My point was to spend money on food, not pills. Buy cheap bulk food, then get more expensive stuff as finances permit. Quinoa has the single benefit of providing complete protein, which is tough to accomplish via grains. But yeah, it's some faggy shit.

Eating nothing but flour, water and a multivitamin is going to get really boring, really fast. And since multivitamins don't contain much protein if any, you're almost certainly going to suffer from deficiencies. Buy food, not pills.

You cannot live long-term on fucking flour and vitamin pills. Yes, you should have some flour, but you'll need other things too.

>>62343

>>62450

> Vegetable oils

Plant-derived oils have their uses if there is nothing else to eat, but lard and tallow are much better and generally cheaper.

>>62689

dude you get like 1 month of vitamins for around 3€. I know they're not as good as vitamins you ingest naturally through food, but it's better than nothing. Also, prepper food is usually deficient in multiple vitamins.

>>62838

> One month of vitamins are cheap

Possibly, yes. But what vitamins are they? How much protein do they have? Any? Protein deficiency is just as serious as other forms of malnutrition.

> Better than nothing.

Agreed. But calorie-dense foods are better still.

> Prepper food is deficient in multiple vitamins.

Probably, but I'd like to see sauce. I know that I was able to live 100% on MREs when I was eighteen. And I'm not recommending "prepper food", I'm recommending regular dry goods. Beans, rice, lard, flour, bulk vitamin-C available for pennies-per-dose when purchased by the kilo, and comfort foods to maintain sanity and morale. Almost any bulk dry goods are better than prepper food. In most survival situations, calories are more important than nutrients.

>>29793

I have gone 48 with no food. I don’t know if I could do it with no water.

>>62083

I don't know about you but I would like to eat more than just homemade bread for months on end after SHTF.

I rotate canned goods, spam and beef/chicken stock. Half of my supply is 25 year shelf life freeze dried foods purchased years ago when prices were much lower. Some is shrink wrapped bulk foods like rice, beans, oatmeal, grits, split peas, nuts, granola, flour, cane sugar, peanut butter, dried pancake mix, boxes of Red Feather canned butter, boxes of dried mash potatoe mix, boxes of canned mushrooms. My cabinets are stocked and I have mason jars filled with spices and seasonings (to flavor food).

I also have a box freezer with grass fed non-hormone beef, which I buy wholesale from a rancher at a local farmers market once every two years (half cow worth for $1,000 which lasts me two years, longer if rationed).

>>62812

I'm in here. You don't think a doomsday prepping nut like myself would be here? Check your board, I'm going to get fucking drunk either tomorrow night or the next night and post some classic 60s, 70s and 80s rock n roll and I think you'll enjoy it. Jesus Christ forgive me when I do you know I can't help myself!

>>63003

i did 6 days only water, it was honestly very easy i just laid in bed all day and browsed internet

gandhi did 23

You just go back to your hometown. Most of the office workers in Chinese cities emigrate there from the countryside.

This may be the key to survival.

I read somewhere on the forums that antibiotics for fish could also be used for humans. Anyone got some concrete info on that? I need to buy some.

>>64340

Free Homesteading And Survival Manuals

https://archive.org/details/shtf-prepping-survival-videos

Prepping-Survival Video Tutorials

https://archive.org/details/shtf-prepping-survival-videos

The President of China just visited Wuhan to show its all fine now. Panicmongers BTFO.

>>66941

I'm using UV-C lighting for decontaminating my mail. Since bulbs are going out of stock now and I only have limited supply I may pull out my extra microwave to do that in the future. Before I bring packages into my home I spray each side down with lysol spray. For my biohazard suit and respirator I use a bleach-water solution to scrub down before taking my gear off and heading off to the shower. I get my mail/packages in intervals, every 4 to 5 days, to ration the use of UV-C and other resources [saves me time too]. As for a quarantine room for decontamination, you should consider building a shed outside and installing new electrical cord and circuit breaker, wiring the electrical cord through PVC pipes from the house to the shed to prevent damage from the outside and copper grounding for the new electrical outlets you install inside the shed. That way you can utilize UV-C germicidal lighting and/or a microwave for decontamination inside the shed, as well as all the other decontamination protocols before entering back into your home safely.

Another idea is electrostatic conduction but I don't know how well that really works and I gave up on that considering all the other protocols are solid enough. You would ground conductive metal and have a 14"x14" piece of carpet tacked to the outside of your shed. Basically you'd grab onto the conductive pipe that was properly grounded, wait about 5 to 10 seconds, then rub your hands all over the carpet and you'd get electrostatic conduction (tiny current) running through your body and supposedly this helps break down viral protein.

>>67081

LOL. Propaganda! Tell me when their factories are back up and running again! Then I'll believe it!

>>67123

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:106.9/centery:33.1/zoom:2

See all those shipping vessels going from China to the US? Just propaganda I'm sure.

. PROOF that the corona-virus is FAKE! http://womenarestupid.site/blog/proof-that-the-coronavirus-is-fake

>>67176

The chinese only manfuacture the goods, the American companies have all the information(design documents, intellectual property rights) they need to just up and move production elsewhere. Still won't be getting anything for the rest of the year, but its not the end of the world as we know it. If anything, China is the one who gets the brown end of the shit stick since for all the stuff they pulled up until now, jerking foreign investors around with all their bullshit, any company that pulls out of China for greener pastures won't be coming back without some serious concessions. My opinion is that Vietnam will be getting a lot of fiscal attention since they've been trying to break free from China's influence for a long time now and they are likewise another commie shithole with cheap labor for discerning capitalists with more money than patriotism.

>>67715

> The Chinese only make stuff, but (((westerners))) have all the paper

Yeah, not quite. Industrial espionage is a real thing, and the CCP has done an excellent job of gaining access to the needed "information" to manufacture things. And since physically making stuff is still needed to physically use stuff, then people living in the west are going to have issues over the next year (and probably longer).

> Not the end of the world as we know it

Time will tell. But the era of cheap Chinese crap is coming to an end. And if the outbreak is used as an excuse to impose mandatory vaccination and population control, it absolutely will be the end of the world as we know it.

> China will get the brown end of the stick

Are you talking about the Chinese people, or the CCP? The people of China have been getting shafted for generations, so that's no change. And since the CCP is the darling of (((globalism))), circumstances will be arranged to save them and maintain their control.

To keep this on-topic, let me get back to my thesis statement (which you have failed to address):

Supply chains are breaking down, buy the shit you need before it's gone.

It really is that simple. If there is anything you must have, get it now. Go get food. Put together a means to cook it without electricity or natural gas. Have a way to clean and store water. Get a pair of comfortable shoes. Make sure your car is up-to-date on maintenance. Get diapers for your baby. Get some Bic lighters. Buy OTC medications. Did I mention food, water, and a means to prepare it?

>>68054

>And if the outbreak is used as an excuse to impose mandatory vaccination and population control, it absolutely will be the end of the world as we know it.

And buy lots of guns and ammo to because we may need to put this to use very soon. The hell if I'll allow anyone to disarm me or drag me off to a coof camp without putting up one hell of a deadly fight. If you know how to rig up explosives to maim and slow down traitors who intend on killing you anyway, not saying do it but…..

First time I see this happening, and I've been watching that damn thing a lot. It's back now, but it all disappeared for a good 15 min.

>>68906

Those links don't have anything to do what you just claim they did. As for you claiming this is not a prepper thread you can fuck off, there are TONS of great tips provided in this thread, if you can find them skimming over some shit posting.

https://archive.org/details/shtf-prepping-survival-videos

https://archive.org/details/homesteading-survival-manuals

Stop sinning.

Is there any sort of guidance out on how to treat this shit if hospitals are overwhelmed, triage in effect, and grandma's over the age of people they're willing to treat currently?

Anyone have any reloading or DIY crude ammo shells infographs/pdfs etc. and also to make your home made sulphur + gunpowder?

>>28390

>using well water

Why not catchment/reuse? The aquifers are only unpolluted due to government oversight that would cease to exist. Your fish experience from >>28753 would become your drinking water experience, would it not?

>>71316

Here is what you'll need (it's not guaranteed you'll survive it though):

OTC fever reducers for extremely high fevers (+105F) If you get too high a fever it CAN kill you or cause a stroke.

OTC expectorants for pneumonia issues (to help clear out the lungs)

Lots of Vitamins C & D! Get good brands, not the shit quality Chinese crap from walmart!

Curcumin for immune system boosting and controlling inflammation from the virus.

Zinc supplement is good for boosting the immune function and keeping your heart healthy.

Chaga mushroom powder is good as an anti-viral which will not cure, but slow down viruses.

Where can I get a biohazard/hazmat suit for non scalped prices? How do I know what to look for? I already have good full face respirators

>>71686

Northern Tool (NT) Equipment has some protective gear, not hazmat gear but similar for DIY jobs where chemicals are involved, so do many other big farm supplier chains (think of these like the Coscos or Sams for DIY ranching/farming work).

>>71689

Would these suits be sufficient to stop SARS-2? I’d imagine so. Why not try and find an actual hazmat or biosuit? Is amazon reliable?

Anyone got those homebrew filtermasks with platic bottles?

Northern Italian here

My city just got on lockdown, no exit allowed unless emergency

Police is getting quite baton-happy

They thought I was paranaoid for spending thousands on rations and military equip

Good look getting it now next shipment is in 2 months

I have enough for me, my wife and daughter for 7 months

Enough bullets for thousands of looters

Meds are enough too

Me and my friend use a radio we built to keep in contact

ATV and mountain shelter ready just in case

Being an IT engi I built my own comm equip, with internet access

/pol/ was right all along prepping was a good idea

Thank you Americans for waking me up, really

You were all right

What should I stock up on for beer virus?

Current inventory:

.22lr rifle X1

.22lr revolvers x2

.22lr ammo X1000

AR-15 chambered in .300blk

30-round magazines X3

.300blk supersonic ammo x150 (need more, shit is expensive)

12 gauge pump X1

12 gauge SXS X1

20 gauge single shot X1

20 gauge semi automatic X1

.410 side-by-side X1

12 gauge slugs X20

12 gauge buckshot X50

12 gauge Birdshot X200

No .410 or 20g ammo :(

9mm pistols X2

Magazines X 4

9mm target ammo X1000

9mm defense ammo x50

What should I prioritize?

>>28355

What is the best rifle a novice shooter should purchase with a budget of $500? Ideally it can be used for both home defense and for hunting. Since I live with my parents atm, my father owns an over-under and pump shotgun, as well as an AR15, so if worst comes to worst I'l have those available. I've heard that it is unethical to hunt deer with a 5.56 round though. Would you recommend an SKS?

>t. NJfag

>>72215

Damn thats a good looking gun .

You are one lucky guy.

>>72218

It is REAL nice because the stock is adjustable. I just had to get this guy, I fell in love with it when I was checking it out at the counter.

>>72178

I hate to say this but there are not a whole lot of good quality rifles out there that sell at $500, you may find some but typically they are around 1K (at least this is what I witnessed). But I guess that depends… you may be able to buy a good used rifle much cheaper.

>>72223

It looks beautiful. Even if there is no happening, i bet it would look really sweet mounted on a wall.

Also, you could probably exchange it for food if fiat money becomes useless. Guns are probably the safest bet now, besides canned food.

>>72178

You've asked a perennial question, anon. Best rifle, for what purpose? You can absolutely hunt with an AR-15, just get hunting rounds. Having said that, if you're looking for a rifle for deer hunting, there are a whole range of bolt action hunting rifles. On a budget, I'd say look at Ruger or Savage. Great rifles.

If you're looking for a general purpose rifle, I recommend the Del-Ton Echo 316. Del-ton makes extremely high quality, super accurate, and reliable rifles for less than many well-known brands. One of the many advantages of the AR-15 is that they are modular. You can get a basic rifle and add components as you go along. Plus, the AR is "America's Rifle," meaning it's the one most people have, When SFTF, you'll be compatible with your neighbors, the police, army, etc. Same parts, same ammo, same mags, etc.

SKSs are awesome and they shoot a great round, same as the AKM. However, they only hold 10 rounds in a fixed magazine. Yes, you can get aftermarket set-ups that allow for larger capacity and detachability. But at that point you're kinda building an AK anyway so just get an AK. [If you want an AK, I recommend the Zastava ZPAP M70, but that's in the $800 range. Worth every penny, though] The SKS is obsolete, but still a great rifle.

But if you only have $500 to spend on one rifle, Del-Ton Echo 316 (AR-15). Don't forget plenty of mags. I recommend Okay Industries USGI magazines. Yeah, Magpuls are popular but they are plastic. Set a monthly budget and buy however many you can afford, even if it's only one. Look around online.

>>28433

NSW here too.

If it does go to shtf I can definitely get a large stockpile of antibiotics and other meds.

Also fyi for anyone in nsw, we cannot order a lot of basic meds atm (even paracetamol and ibuprofen).

Hit me up if you want.

>>72248

I have a few gun racks but they are all used up lol. Because some areas get humid I use a great rust-resistant protection (Flitz wax) so those stay in great condition. You have to reply more wax once a year though. The rifle I posted has a special case so I think it's safe in there.

As for trading guns for food? Nah, I got plenty of food storage to last (hopefully) two years if rationed properly. 1 year supply of freeze dried (which I bought 4 or 5 years ago with 25 shelf life) and then the other basic bulk foods mentioned here: >>63058

Not to mention, these guns may come in handy and be a real life saver someday. Hopefully I never am forced to use one for that, but you never know what could go down…

You are all the zombies that dies on the first day in the walking dead kek.

Sorry to break it bro, but strong people don't sit online more than 1h per day.

>>72264

If you can get a really nice AR with mags and ammo for just $500 I'd be shocked. From what I've noticed rifles have become a lot more expensive over the years. Then again, not too experienced with buying rifles (my recent one is my second: my first being an HK416 .22LR), I'm more cozy with Remington shotguns and 9mm handguns for self-defense purposes (9mm being very popular ammo among LE and military too). I think the reason being this: my aim is nothing pro and my eyesight is not the best anymore as I'm getting older). Great tips though.

>>72739

Oh, I sit around more these days just because I got pretty much everything I need. I've been prepping for over a decade and currently hunkered down and well barricaded (see some of the fortification tips mentioned in this thread). I'm not saying I'm guaranteed to survive but I do stand a fighting chance and that's the best I can really ask for at this point. Living in a small town I think I can manage. I'll let the younger ones do the outside lock downs and ward off those strangers lol.

>>72883

Get my AK and start screaming at the top of my lungs in russian.

>>72883

Speed and intensity. Those nigs appear unarmed, or at most will have handguns. Just brandishing a weapon, screaming unintelligibly and acting crazy as fuck will likely spook them enough to back off unless they are in committed attack mode. Just make them know you are armed and think you are crazy/unstable like you might just do it. If they are bum rushing your house though, you know what to do.

>>72883

In such a crisis I would always be on high guard and vigilant. I would immediately notice them, quickly grab my 12G Remington shotgun and duck behind level 3 armor paneling that has been mounted to the studs of my walls below one of the front windows of my home. From that window I have a vantage point to engage them. I could quickly unlock/open the window, stick the shotgun out and fire of a few buckshot shells directly their way. Then duck and cover again, reload a few more, and engage them again. I will keep doing this till they scatter off or all drop dead.

>>73122

I have a US Army combat vest that comes with magazine holders, many deep pockets for extra ammo or shells, and a pistol holster all with the vest. I always have a 9mm in the pistol holder and the magazines are pre-loaded ready to go. But for this situation I would still grab my 12G shotgun because those buckshot shells would cause a much higher maim and kill rate as they viciously scatter around the area you aim towards being much more dangerous to looters/marauders nearby. One idiot I could handle with my 9mm easy. A pack of idiots would require something a little more resourceful that could hit a few per shot.

>>72912

LOL. But lets be serious here, being an open target is not something you would want to risk. I highly recommend Level 3 bulletproof paneling as cover, it can stop up to 44 cal munition. Unless an enemy combatant has 5.56, .223 or 50 cal it will do the trick to protect you from gun fire. However the paneling can be expensive, it cost me about 5K for 4 68"x68" panels. These are heavy and typically delivered on big wooden pallets which the trucker will haul to your garage door with a fork lift. To work with this paneling you will need an electric sawzall with diamond grit blades as they are the only kind of blades able to cut through the paneling. You can measure what you need and work from there but to drill holes for mounting you will also need special pilot bits that can drill through thick galvanized steel. Once you have the panels cut to size and the holes accurately leveled and drilled out you can either mount them via stainless steel bolts through the wall studs or (for dozens of smaller holes) screw them to the studs in the wall but make sure you are using long steel screws that are very tough [average decking screws won't hold that kind of weight]. Make sure you use it for places where you can easily duck for cover, and reload munitions when needed. The advantages are knowing you are unlikely to be shot at and killed instantly.

>>73218

Perhaps its better to just go outside unarmed and talk to them. Don't be such a racys kek

>>72883

The reason I moved out of the city three years ago onto a farm house so the odds of ever needing to deal with a situation like that would drastically diminish.

There are three suburbs between me and the closest major city, so I'd hear about the violence happening there long before it got out to where I live.

>>73245

Most smaller suburbs or towns outside major cities should be safe anon. The only reason I am so prepared to engage these fuckers is because I don't necessarily trust our government or military to function normally anymore, in fact our corrupt government may want to exploit such a crisis by allowing a bunch of chimps to flee the cities and cause destruction and chaos (all the more reason to power grab and call for civil disarmament, blaming us for the whole mess). That's why I'm also prepared, God forbid, for the day they try something stupid against the American people. If things go as they normally would we should be fine but don't let your guard down. Always be ready for the worst.

>>72215

>Americans and their non-automatic, sissy caliber guns

Make sure to add a flashlight and tactical scope to it :DD

>>72024

Weld a second door inside your dwelling.

A cage door is good too.

Do not tell anyone about your rations.

>>73283

Do you know how much a fully automatic gun would cost over here? We can get them, with a permit, but they cost tens of thousands of dollars! Who the fuck are you, some rich military contractor overseas?

Btw, calling a 5.56 rifle "sissy" is idiotic. You do realize green tip 5.56 can pierce most military grade armor, right?

Brit anons and those who live where weapons are banned.

What kind of weapons will you be using in a survival scenario?

>>73533

I would go with bear spray if you can get some over there, it's much stronger than pepper spray and you can discharge it safely up to 12 feet away. Otherwise you can get a 2x4, cut it to 4' and drill stainless steel screws through each side so they stick out both ends. This can be used as a bat to maim combatants pretty badly. Otherwise maybe a baseball bat with barbed wire wrapped clamped around the club.

Another idea would be homemade chemical weapons, easy to make out of basic household products. Be very careful doing stuff like that and wear protection. One idea is a mix of bleach and ammonia within some water which makes an extremely toxic gas. You could fill up a big squirt gun full of this (again, wear a gas mask and gloves doing this) and when needed you could quirt your enemies, towards their faces. The solution would cause them to choke and suffocate from the noxious fumes.

>>72883

It depends on whether law enforcement enters into the situation.

Without law enforcement, I would already be shooting niggers on sight way before they saw me.

I guess if they did see me though I could always switch to Plan B.

Plan B is kill all of the niggers.

What type of respirator do you need? Is N95 enough?

Reusable vs disposable?

What models are good?

>19 yo NEET living with parents

>Both parents are disabled and living at the disability fund

>No money, zero preparation, terrible physical shape

How fucked I am?

>>73784

N95 will do as long as you don't get in close contact with others, I'd recommend a P100 respirator though. If you reuse anything you must decontaminate before re-use. Standard surgical masks do no good if you are in the same room with a contaminated air. So you must get something with better filter quality.

>>73800

You can help our cause by catching it and spreading it to political organizations, bankers and/or government officials. Score extra points if you infiltrate a Soros-run organization and spread it. Look at it as a vengeful way to die.

>>73529

[Laughs in 7.62×39mm]

How do you clean reusable respirators after going out?

>>74002

> How to clean a respirator filter

You don't. If you use chemicals (like alcohol, bleach or ammonia) on it, you could degrade the fibers that perform the filtering. If you use a UV-C lamp, you could degrade the fibers and you'll miss anything that's between the fibers.

Ozone is a possibility, but there is no data on using it against Red Death.

Another option is to bag them, sanitize the bag, wrap the bag in foil to protect it, then put the bag in your oven at 130degF for twelve hours. But depending on the manufacture of the filters, the heat could potentially damage them.

Your best bet is to not clean the filters, but to instead rotate through them. Use a new set of filters every day, and keep them as clean as you can. Once you're used a set of filters, put them in a plastic bag and date the bag. Sanitize the exterior of the bag, then leave it alone for ten-to-fourteen days, at which point you can reuse the filters.

If you're going out five days a week, then you'll need ten filters to do this over a two-week period.

Do not put chemicals on your filters, or you'll damage them.

Sorry anon, but you can't just sanitize and reuse a single pair every-day.

>>74013

What about the mask itself?

>>74031

> Cleaning the mask

It's going to depend on how the mask is constructed. Most commercial masks can withstand exposure to 70% isopropyl alcohol, or a 1% bleach solution. The issue is going to be any latex components - these will be degraded by exposure to chemicals, and I promise you that UV-C exposure will eat holes in the latex. I know this because I destroyed a mask by leaving it under a UV-C lamp overnight.

Wipe it down with 70% alcohol and allow it to try. Examine any latex or rubber components for breakdown, and replace them as-needed. It's hard to find replacement masks, but it's still possible to order replacement gaskets, straps, and valves.

Theoretically, you could expose both sides of the mask to UV-C for fifteen minutes per-side, and it should kill the virus without eating the latex too badly.

Borax is another option. Get a bucket, fill it half-way with warm water, then pour in the borax. Mix it into the water until the water won't hold any more in solution - you should have granules of borax in the bottom of the bucket. Dunk the mask into the solution, leave it there overnight, then pull it out and let it dry. I haven't tried this method though, so I can't comment on whether it will degrade the plastic.

I've been wiping my masks down with 70% alcohol, and I'm very careful to not handle them while I'm out-and-about. I get everything adjusted before I leave, and I don't touch it until I'm back and going through decontamination.

Again, UV-C will eat holes in anything that's latex.

I just went to a clinic because I was due to get an HPV vaccine. It seemed fine and it had less people than usual.

In more concerning news, a supermarket in the area was surrounded by cops. Apparently, some people tried to break in through the roof.

We may get looters soon. Pray for me and my family as I am worried about our health and safety. I do not have access to any firearms, military equipment, armour, etc.

I was telling my family all about this virus back in January, but they just kept dismissing me. We have a decent amount of food and supplies, so that is the least of my worries for now. I have to worry about the virus as well as looters, burglars and thieves.

What advice do you have to give to an anon like me who lives in a major urban city, has no weapons or special masks?

>>74062

> Advice for Anon who lives in a major urban city, has no weapons or special masks

Get the supplies that you can, and hide. Arm yourself however you can, even if you risk offending the uniformed gangsters in your area. Consider leaving the area, especially if you have family in a "safe" zone. "Safe" areas are locations with a white population, where guns are legal and widely-owned, that produce food via agriculture.

Run away

Get out of the city. Go somewhere that doesn't have a nigger population. Being in a nigger city with "gun-control" will become a death sentence.

Hide

Try to keep a low profile, don't get noticed, and don't interact with people. Some anons have suggested placing signs on their properties, proclaiming "Biohazard" or 'Dead Inside". Maybe get some body bags, stuff them with something, and leave them on your front porch. I don't suggest that method though, as it will draw attention.

Don't just sit on your ass and play vidya

If you have limitations that are fucking-up your prospects, then remove those limitations. Go un-fuck yourself.

>>28355

>You're in Wuhan

Why would I be in the literal middle of fucking Chinkbugistan? Airdropped there as punishment?

>>74074

>especially if you have family in a "safe" zone

My entire family is in this city with me.

>Arm yourself however you can, even if you risk offending the uniformed gangsters in your area

I also don't think I should leave my house for bm shit.

You do not understand. I'm not an independent person like all of you. I just started being a legal "adult" a few months ago. I never had the freedom to go buy all of this shit.

I was thinking about using kitchen knives for self-defense purposes. That is literally all I got.

>>74089

> Entire family is in a nigger-hive

You don't have a great-uncle somewhere? *I don't. How about volunteering to work at a church in some country town? Otherwise, your best bet would be to convince your normie/boomer family of reason which is probably impossible**.

> Not independent

Then you are about to get a crash-course. Put on some comfy clothes, your sneakers, and a coat, then start walking. I used to sleep in the law library at a local university - nobody was ever there at night. Find a way to leave the nigger-hive, and you may be OK.

> Kitchen knives

Most kitchen knives are shit for fighting - the steel is too soft, and too thin. You'll break the knife off before getting it through the ribcage. It's also not easy to fight with a knife, and you could very easily just injure yourself. Using a knife also requires getting close to the attacker, which is a no-no. Fighting with a knife is for people with training.

You would be better off with a wrecking bar or some other bludgeon. You could also get a machete, which tend to be cheap and available, but hacking with a machete doesn't incapacitate as quickly as breaking bones with a steel bar.

If you're over 18, you can legally purchase a shotgun in most states. If not, go to /k/ and look for some DIY solutions - the manuals are available to construct almost anything. Fer fuck's sake, I was breaking all kinds of federal laws before I even turned sixteen but promptly stopped once I had something to lose (a job, a car, and a girlfriend). Try to play by (((the rules))), but keep yourself alive above all other things.

>>74124

>you can legally purchase a shotgun in most states

Not American.

And once I start walking outside, where do I go?

>>74132

> Anon wants me to think for him.

Give me your GPS coordinates, and I'll give you some ideas. A church in a remote location should be an option, regardless of your nation.

As for the shotgun, go to /k/ and look for some manuals. There is a thing called a "zipgun" that is illegal to manufacture, even in the US, but can be constructed from common materials. I don't know what the laws are in your area, so you're going to have to get creative.

Firebombs and high-explosives are dangerous, and you really shouldn't play with them. But black powder is fairly easy to make, and not very dangerous if it's not confined.

How about a bow or crossbow? I'm able to kill small game with a slingshot, built with latex tubing. Do you have access to latex tubing and steel ball bearings?

If you're willing to bend the rules, go to /k/ and look around the DIY thread.

>>74145

>Give me your GPS coordinates

Are you being sarcastic with me or are you a glownigger?

>>74167

>skills

None. I can't really build and I don't know anything about combat

>tools

I might have basic things like hammers, screwdrivers, wrenches, kitchen knives, etc.

>legal restrictions

Can't own a firearm without following the stringent regulations like licensing and training. Time is one thing I don't have. I also don't have a driver's license

>laws I am willing to break

None

>items at retail

I can imagine there is a decent selection

>countryside

It's fucking far.

Also, my is pretty fucking anal and stubborn. They would not understand as to why I am taking these precautions and they will surely not stand by and allow me to make diy weapons.

>>74145

It is not illegal to make your own firearms for personal use in the US as long as they aren't NFA items (short barrel shotguns, machine guns, etc.)

>>28376

>I Hate bread

wtf how is that possible

>>74528

Maybe he's allergic to yeast or something.

Yes, faggots like that exist.

>>74062

>What advice do you have to give to an anon like me who lives in a major urban city, has no weapons or special masks?

>>74089

>I was thinking about using kitchen knives for self-defense purposes. That is literally all I got.

This was already covered for a brit here: >>73540

Another good idea is to take intruders by surprise with chemical-based fire extinguishers, spray it in their face to blind them and then beat them over the head with it until their dead. Take any arms or whatever they may have using gloves (for corona protection) and decontaminate them. You'd then have an arm to defend yourself. As for body disposal typically the way we do it out here is by digging ditches and using lots of lighter fluid to burn the bodies. If you live in a city, use proper protective gear and drag it outside the vicinity, leave no traces by pouring strong pipe cleaner fluid all over it (burns off any fingerprints or criminal evidence).

>>74213

If you want to become a prepper, I hate to break it to you, you'll have to learn some skills at the very least. It may take a lot of struggle and effort to get anywhere ready to begin prepping, like the anon said you might want to become a drifter and just take the risk of walking out of the city and meeting new people, trying to find a job and a new trustworthy pal to hang around from time to time. You'll need to learn to drive eventually too, take an adults' drivers ed class and register at the local DMV. I don't what else advice I can give you, even though there is a corona virus outbreak now. If you get out of the city now you might be safe. Word over here is certain bridges and highway points around the cities are being monitored by local governments now for potential lockdown purposes, so now would be the time to bug out to a small town or the country side.

>>74124

> I was breaking all kinds of federal laws before I even turned sixteen but promptly stopped once I had something to lose (a job, a car, and a girlfriend).

When it comes to doomsday prepping there are certain minor laws you just break from time to time (even some you may not notice at all), as long as you don't hurt or kill anyone while prepping it shouldn't matter. When SHTF there won't really be "rule of law" anymore anyway and LE resources will be so strained a lot of bad stuff will just fly, unenforceable at that point.

>>74709

N95 should be good enough for now as long as you keep a distance from people. I prefer the P100 respirator with extra filters but that needs to be decontaminated properly before and after use. I use UV-C lighting to decontaminate the respirator (but not the filters). The filters I take off with gloves and toss into a "no touch" box, and when I put them back on I use gloves again. Bleach/water solution is good for a biosuit if you have one. Look into any major farm supply retail chains and look for protective suits (typically used for DIY work that involves using toxic chemicals for equip or glyphosate for crops).

>>74712

>>74712

>From viruses? No.

Anything that is water impermeable like snow pants and rain jacket should protect from the virus.

>>74709

>no rubber boots

>>74713

thanks bro

unfortunately the m95 is quite hard to come by and pretty expensive

instead I found the polish mp5 which is quite cheap including filter

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Schwarze-ABC-Schutzmaske-MP-5-Maske-Gasmaske-MP5-Filter-Tasche-Grose-2/

addidtional filters are also quite cheap and easy to come by

>Due to the large number of surplus Soviet masks and filters left over from the Cold War, the Polish developed the FP-5 filter, giving it a "universal thread" that can fit both STANAG 4155 and GOST 40mm masks while maintaining an airtight seal

https://gasmaskandrespirator.fandom.com/wiki/MP-5

https://www.ebay.de/itm/4x-Schutzmaskenfilter-MP5-neuwertig-unbenutzt-Filter-fur-Gasmaske-Schutzmaske/

>>74712

well I would only wear it if I were to go to crowded places and stuff which is not often

>>74730

yeah wearing some kind of disposable gloves might be a solution to that but may be very uncomfortable for a longer period of time

the masks are military grade masks designed to protect the wearer from hazards

>>74213

> NEET-anon is a confessed member of the herd.

Like cattle, you will be slaughtered. If you're unwilling to make changes to your life, then your life will not change.

You could do what so many other young people have done - go join the Army.

If that option is unpalatable, then getting out of the city is going to be your best bet.

But before walking-out, try convincing your family to prep more. Don't use reason or evidence - that doesn't work on boomers. Throw a temper tantrum. Make an absolute scene, and cry like a baby. Emotion works on boomers.

>>74244

> Making firearms in the US

Yes, I'm aware of the regulations, and I have a couple home-built ARs in my safe. But making ZIP guns is illegal, regardless of the barrel length. Everything I have is legal, and I'm pretty sure that the statute of limitations has passed on anything I may have done as a minor.

>>74689

> Bear spray

Yeah, I'd rather use bear spray than a kitchen knife. But you'll also need a lethal-force option, once the spray is gone or stops working.

>>74701

> You'll need to learn skills

100% correct. Stop being a worthless faggot.

>>74703

> Preppers break laws all the time, but get away with it because nobody is harmed.

There is a difference between "laws" and (((laws))). One is natural, the other is kiked. Fuck the kikes and their legislation. Keep yourself alive, but don't harm your own people.

>>74713

> Anon is using a protocol that is similar to mine.

This. It should work. Just don't over-expose things to UV-C, lest they become damaged.

>>74730

> Rubbing your face with contaminated hands

This is probably the biggest issue. It is very important to not touch your face, no matter how badly your nose itches. If I'm out buying supplies, and I get an itch, I distract myself by singing a song until the itch goes away. Surprisingly, it works. My eyebrow starts to itch, I belt-out some Johnny Cash, and the itch goes away.

>>74736

I was lucky that I stocked up on those way before this bioweapon was released. I have two old boxes with 400 disposable plastic gloves in each set. I bet that is hard to find these days. For right now plastic gloves, goggles and a respirator should be good enough for us small town folks, but when traveling to a metro area you should be wearing a full body suit by now. Decontamination of gear before removal is extremely important too, without that your going to get infected anyway.

So fellow preppers, Trump is thinking about giving us plebs FREE MONEY (before the economy completely crashes)...

See here: >>74801

What y'all going to buy if we all get this free handout?

I'm drooling over a nice .357 revolver myself but I'll not be too rash just yet.

>>56729

>The Lysol spray is for bacteria not viruses.

Look at this retard and laugh.

Lysol's active ingredient is Benzalkonium chloride, a quaternary ammonium compound.

https://www7.nau.edu/itep/main/HazSubMap/docs/HHWaste/DisinfectantsComparisonChart.pdf

>Generally effective against a broad spectrum of microbes including MRSA and H1N1 (Influenza A), but typically not proven effective against spores.

>Read product label for effectiveness against TB.

Lysol is a ripoff, but not ineffective like >>56729 says.

>>75444

True, and you can also use bleach water solution or rubbing alcohol too. Or borax. There are many household products that easily kill viruses. I have and will continue to use lysol spray for packages before they come into my home. UV-C is good too but there are some rumors it doesn't work as well as we think for this virus. Don't know what to say about that. Some say it takes 12 minutes to kill off the corona virus with UV-C. If someone is an expert please inform us.

Where can I get chloroquinine shipped to the US w/o a script.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroquine#Coronavirus

>>74213

Very relatable. I need an explanation on how to avoid the virus in simple terms. I've become educated on food pretty quickly, but have no kind of mask or anything like that. What precautions do we need to take?

>>75883

I feel you, brother. At this point, I'm just grateful that there are anons who are willing to give advice to guys like you and I. How similar is your situation to mine?

>>74744

I just looked at the website for the local department store. Bear spray is sold out

>>75883

>I need an explanation on how to avoid the virus in simple terms.

Avoid other people, including and especially their bodily fluids and the air they exhale and paying special consideration to indirect transmission via the same. Don't touch other people, don't go near other people, avoid areas where other people have been and don't touch anything that someone else has been near enough to contaminate.

>>75969

> Anon is unable to locate bear spray, for defense against bears.

DIY Defensive Spray, Only For Use Against Dangerous Animals

You will need:

> A blender

> Some liquid detergent (just a few drops)

> Jalapeno or Habanero peppers (the hotter, the better)

> High-proof alcohol (vodka might work, I used everclear)

> A fine-mesh wire strainer (a coffee press might work)

> Coffee filters

> Some jars, or bowls, or something to hold fluids. Make sure that the opening is large enough to accommodate the strainer.

> Elbow-length rubber gloves, a face-screen, and other PPE (like a rubber apron)

> A funnel

> A baddass water gun

Take the peppers and dice them. Place them in the blender, and cover them with alcohol. Add a splash of detergent as a surfactant. Cover the blender and liquefy the peppers. Pour the resulting slurry through the strainer, and collect the fluid. Put the pepper-sludge back in the blender, cover it with more alcohol and another splash of detergent, and blend it some more. Try to get all the juice out of the peppers. Put this through the strainer again, collecting it in the same container as the other fluid. Discard the peppers and clean your blender. Take the fluid and run it through the coffee filters, being sure to remove any particles which would clog the water gun. Clean everything, still wearing the PPE.

You can use this fluid directly, in your water gun, or you can reduce it over a low heat (NO FLAMES) until it's just enough to fill your water gun. Again, beware of fire if you decide to reduce it (keep a fire extinguisher ready), and don't reduce it so much that it becomes a sludge/oil (it needs to flow through the water gun). Also, it will stink like hell, irritate your eyes/nose/lungs, and mess-up your kitchen, so do it outside with an electric hotplate (or just don't make it). Or better yet, just don't make it. Also, don't make it.

The resulting fluid will sting like hell. It could blind somebody, and will burn your skin if it gets on you. Seriously, this shit is nasty and should only be used as defense against dangerous animals (when nothing else is available). If you get some on you, you should be able to rinse it away with baby oil (medicinal-grade mineral oil should work too). Soap and water are only marginally effective at cleaning it, as the capsicum oils are not water-soluble.

Don't make this crap, as it's really nasty and will mess people up.

If you spill it in your house, you'll have to find a new house.

Really, I cannot stress how nasty this stuff is.

You could kill yourself if you get it in your face or on your skin - anaphylaxis is a real thing

Also, permanent blindness is a real possiblity.

I advise against making this shit. Don't blame me if you do and somebody gets fucked up.

For defense against criminals, I advise that you contact your local police constabulary. As everyone knows, the police are always there to protect you and will arrive immediately upon being called.

>>76120

>For defense against criminals, I advise that you contact your local police constabulary. As everyone knows, the police are always there to protect you and will arrive immediately upon being called.

LOL, great DIY tip though. Also for a water gun some ammonia, bleach and water mixed will do too (make sure to wear protection and a gas mask and seal up the filled water tank air tight). When you squirt someone with it they would start to suffocate from the noxious fumes. It irritates the skin, not as badly as pepper spray, but the real danger is the toxic fumes it gives off. If you soak someone with it they'd have to strip everything off pretty fast before they asphyxiated.

>>28589

>using the Egoraptor It's been a while since he has made anything shill line.

>not knowing I too can shill on /pnd/

You must consoom!

Have anyone tried Anti-SARS-CoV S glycoprotein antibody injection? It is already developed but will this work on CoV2? I believe so because there is genetic similarities between two different virus.

>>76263

Anon, I was about to call you out for trying to get someone to delete System32 but then I reread and saw where you said make sure it is airtight.

Is this legitimate advice dude? This sounds hilarious.

>>76120

Thanks. Also, are bear spray and pepper spray the same thing? Some normalfags around me have been saying they're the same. If not, which one is more effective and potent?

Best way to make a home made mask? What are the secret tricks?

>>73818

this

>>76438

> Are bear spray and pepper spray the same thing?

It depends on the brand. Look for a chemical called "capsicum" - this is the spicy/peppery substance from peppers. Anything with capsicum in it is basically pepper spray.

>>76979

> Making home-made masks

You can't. At least, you won't be able to make masks at home that meet the N95 standard. You might be able to nigger-rig something that's good-enough, but you won't be able to source and assemble the correct materials at home. Also, you won't really know how well it performs until it fails.

>>77000

> Black powder muzzle loaders don't qualify as firearms with the ATF

I am aware of this, but real guns are available in the US. For people outside of the US, the rules are different, and my advice to visit /k/ to obtain manuals still applies to those people.

> Wasp spray

Yeah, it's nasty. But I don't know how debilitating it would be to somebody. I've gotten it on my skin and in my face, and I've also breathed a fair bit of it. From my humble experiences, I don't think wasp spray is as incapacitating as pepper-spray.

Never forget that the gold-standard is a high-velocity rifle round through the medulla oblongata. But that's not easy for most people to do, so a close runner-up would be a load of buckshot into the chest.

https://www.silvertowne.com/c-601-buffalo-replica-1-ounce-silver-rounds.aspx

Silvertowne now has 1 ounce silver buffalos back in stock, but they are sticking to the price they were a week ago instead of marking them down to reflect the current value

>>71712

You could also slow them down significantly by hiding a 40 pound propane tank wrapped up in camouflage around a bush (not only good for hiding but preventing rust too), near the end of your driveway or off a distance from your home near the road. Once you see them coming nearby you could snipe it with a green tip 5.56 (or 50 cal) and that should do enough damage to stop the tank and possibly injure those operating it.

Is a fire poker a good self-defence weapon?

>>77215

Yes, anything that can bludgeon someone or injure them can be but it all depends on how you use those as weapons. Hint: hide somewhere and take them by surprise when they least expect it. Then you can take whatever weapons they may have. If you kill someone immediately cover up any bleeding wounds to not leave traces of blood (you can do this with duct tape). Get gloves on, the whole works. Drag the body outside and have some strong pipe drain cleaner handy to burn out large clogs (the stuff that contains sodium hydroxide and potassium hydroxide) and use it to pour all over the dead body to destroy any kind of criminal evidence that a forensics lab could normally recover. Of-course wait till night time hours to do that. You do not want the corps sitting with you more than 12 hours!! If you live somewhere in the country you could easily dig a pit and burn the body with lighter fluid (preferably).

Very informative prepping tips related to the corona virus, video is long but well worth it:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/TkChK84qBOI/

>>78975

> Will a UV-C chamber sanitize mail.

Perhaps. The issue is going to be penetration. The UV-C light won't penetrate between paper fibers, and it won't get inside the mail. It would be cheaper and easier to just seal it in in a plastic bag, sanitize the outside of the bag with alcohol, wrap the bag in foil, then bring it into the house and put it in the oven. I don't have any numbers on what the correct temperature is, but I can tell you that going above 130degF will melt credit cards.

I leave most of my mail for two weeks in a sanitation room. But for things I need to open quickly, I put them in the oven at 130degF for twelve hours. I have no proof that this works, so maybe I should just burn all my mail.

During SHTF all you will need is the very basic essentials with arms/ammo supply to protect it. Some DIY experience/skills and knowing how to raise livestock, garden and can foods. Don't forget self-defense training and proper entry point fortification to prevent B&E from looters/marauders that are out and about. You can saw out a "cross section" + in the middle of plywood (or other paneling) that you would mount across the window frame studs in order to stick your rifle or shoutgun barrels out to shoot combatants from (to pivot up/down, left/right), and make sure you can duck and cover behind something bulletproofed while you engage (Level 3 or 4 fiberglass paneling does the trick but you need diamond grit blades to work with that heavy duty paneling).

If you rely on GPS for anything ditch it, have state maps, local jurisdiction maps and an atlas handy. If traveling at all, an old F-150 or F-250 (all mechanical) with extra gas, fuel stabilizer, engine oil & carburator cleaner w/ spare motor belts and other basic parts for the truck to maintain over the next few years. Traveling not recommended unless 100% necessary.

blogposting just for the lulz.

I'm neck deep in a liberal shithole living within range of hordes of shitskins and living with two roomates who are absolutely not taking this shit seriously. I avoid them as much as possible but we share a bathroom, kitchen, and refrigerator… One of them works at walmart, the other one is a stoner that keeps going out almost every single day. Only buys food and water that lasts at most 2 days at a time. And goes to the local crack house to buy weed since the legal weed stores shutdown. I do my best to keep away from those assholes, I am on a different schedule, wash my hands and disinfect religiously, but the d00d weed faggot has a persistent dry cough (he has always had this cough because he's a chronic weed smoker) and I don't have a mask.

On a scale of 1 to 10 how fucked am I?

I'm almost certainly completely screwed. My only hope of survival is that my genotype magically confers resistance.

>>82899

> I live like a nigger. How fucked am I?

Dunno. That depends on what you're willing to change. If you have family who are taking Red Death seriously, then you should quit your shithole job and move in with them. You could also liquidate all your baubles 'cuz who the fuck needs an Xbox and get some camping gear. Go inna woods, and make-do until this all blows over because I'm going to assume that things will eventually return to a semblance of normalcy. Do you have money or credit to buy an RV? Get one, and live in it.

Do not limit yourself by believing that you're stuck where you are. Doing something, even a non-optimal thing, is generally better than doing nothing. You could plant some hard drugs on the d00d, then call the cops to get him arrested. The Walmart chap could be convinced to start wearing a mask and gloves to work. Maybe he could be convinced to quit, I dunno. It sounds like we're all going to be getting NeetBux shortly, so there may be no need for either of you to work. The stoner d00d is a definite problem though, especially if he's going to crack houses to feed his habit.

Are you willing to forgo use of the bathroom and kitchen? Stay in your own room indefinitely? Eat canned beans and poop in a composting/chemical toilet? Setup a HEPA filter to draw clean air into your room, providing positive pressure, which should keep aerosolized particles out of your living space. Hoard supplies in your room, stay there, and you might be OK. Moving out would be better. Pawn all your shit, and leave for greener pastures.

If you do nothing, you're fucked. If you do something, you could become regent of your own kingdom. Choose.

I must sound like a fucking baby, but would anyone mind giving me a direct link to a proper bio suit, hazmat suit or whatever I have to wear in order to be 99% secure when out in public? I have full face respirators but I want to be fully covered.

>>76373

do NOT listen to that anon's advice you fucking retard, you'll just end up gassing yourself like a fucking kike

>>84097

>I have painkillers, band aids.

Get some provo-iodine, lidocane, and silver nitrate.

You live in a tropical environment mango, so get potassium permanganate for foot soaks.

Get a few rolls of ace bandages.

Also get some zinc+talc body powder and deodorant in case you have to stay active for long periods without bathing.

>>83512

Nah doing nothing is better.

>>84234

ok boomer

>>84234

>comments on chemicals

>doesn't know what they do

Go eat some chloroquine phosphate, faggot.

Decontaminating N95 masks and filters

I should point out the need to chemically decontaminate the mask routinely as it would be a fomite.This has been investigated and found to degrade the special surfactant impregnating the filter material and reducing its effectiveness in filtering certain sizes of particle and by inference the sticky viron laden fluid aerosol droplets.

When the masks are made the process uses a blow molding machine. Blow moulding requires lubricant to be applied to the moulds for item release. This lubricant transfers to the piece, keep in mind that the special nature of the lubricant means only a tiny amount provides effective surface properties to the item. Siloxanes (hydrophobic ) are the lubricant of choice for bottles and other shapes but I suggest that a hydrophilic lubricant is used for manufacture of polyester weave N95 masks.

A brief investigation provides polyethylene glycol (PEG 400) as a candidate for such a mold lubricant/ hydrophilic impregnation of respirator filter material.

This is listed as low toxicity, redily available and cheap. The suggested procedure would be to decontaminate your Filter material with 70% -OH followed by reimpregnation with PEG 400.

>>84234

>oy vey look at this goy we dressed up with blue makeup on our jewish television

>you better only use big pharma accepted cures or you'll turn blue

>>86153

>>87271

The anon that I replied to was looking for good first aid items to have on hand.

Provo-iodine. Obvious

Body powder. Obvious

Lidocane. Obvious

Potassium Permanganate. Obvious

Ace bandages. Obvious

Apparently silver nitrate is beyond your knowledge despite you knowing that it's a topical antiseptic, chemical cauterizer, and general anti-everything.

Staph? No problem.

Flesh eating bacteria that hasn't gotten to muscle? No problem.

Cut that got infected but you have no anti-biotics? It's going to hurt, but no problem.

Small wound that won't stop bleeding and you don't want to waste quick clot? No problem.

>>87271

> Nano-silver is also different than colloidal silver, but it's mostly just silver oxide, and I'm still looking for sauce on its efficacy for anything.

Nano silver is used in wound vac kits. It's the only 100% effective treatment for MRSA.

Colloidal silver is really no different in a medicinal scenario.

Nothing beats silver for skin problems.

>>71494

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Tips for fellow anons enjoying the boogaloo:

Wim Hoff breathing technique - 30xstomach+chest+head deep inhales, relaxed exhales. - immune system boost.

Water fasting - 1 day immune system boosted, 3 days stem cell regeneration

You don't need hand sanitizer if hand not dirty. wear gloves.

practice holding breath. if you can hold for 3mins -might be enough time to get away from a coofer.

use even if wearing mask. you don't want to find 14 day later mask was 90% effective and coofer infected you. better not breathe if accidentally near coofer. better full nBC, but whatever

fuck off gramma 'nazi' who can't into write prints.

How the actual shit are you supposed to survive this if you live in the UK? They don't want you going to hospitals, it's clear the doctors don't have the required facemasks, the fucking warehouses are compromised- no-one is following the fucking social distancing, even at home with their families, none are gardening/prepping with the right shit- few if any have masks- it's total blanketed ignorance.

As a heads up- if any of you work in warehouses- you're fucked, & if it's Boots- RIP.

>>87851

>How the actual shit are you supposed to survive this if you live in the UK?

>survive

lel. you're not supposed to survive goyim.

2020 current population: ~70 million

2025 population forecast: 15 million

http://www.deagel.com/country/United-Kingdom_c0209.aspx

>>87710

> replied to anon about good first aid items

Yeah, that's going to be my fuckup for not paying attention to context.

> Lidocaine

I have topical lidocaine, but I'm still trying to source some injectable stuff outside of another veterinary supply order, which would require a prescription.

> Potassium Permanganate

Not only will it clean wounds and sanitize water, but it can also be used as an ingredient in explosives. Dangerous and fun stuff.

> silver nitrate is beyond your knowledge

I'm not a medic, I'm a shooter and bullet sponge. But I do have enough medical knowledge to understand I shouldn't be fucking around outside my comfort zone. As a topical antiseptic, how is it better than cheaper alternatives like peroxide and alcohol?

>>87711

> Nothing beats silver for skin problems

Could be. I know that the Romans used silver staples to close wounds, which seemed to work out for them. But I also know that ingesting particles of metal could have some side effects.

As a highschool kid, I stained my skin with a solution of silver nitrate, but didn't have any ill effects beyond having grey hands for a few days.

>>89469

> Should I buzz my hair

Yes, absolutely. I normally keep a full head of hair 'cuz my wife likes to run her finger s through it, but I buzzed it all off after shaving off my beard.

I didn't do this because I suddenly had to cut it myself - I've been cutting my own hair for years. I buzzed it off for hygienic reasons - it's easier to keep clean and out of my face. Also, short hair can't be grabbed during a fight.

Put a number 4 guard on your clippers, and go over your entire head with it. Then put a number one on, and do the sides and rear of your head. It takes no skill to do this, and the ZOGbots will look at you with a small measure of respect so you'll be less likely to attract their ire.

Once you do this, you'll be able to sanitize your entire head with a tablespoon of rubbing alcohol, your hair won't be in your face (so you won't be touching it with your hands to clear it from your eyes), and you won't get your hair tangled-up in the straps of your mask/respirator.

>>89480

>the ZOGbots will look at you with a measure of respect

So how do zogbots recognize one another? I live in a suburban area, I just don't be mixed with the wannabe Eminem or vanilla ice self hating white rappers.

>>89483

> Wants to look like a zogbot, but doesn't want to look like a wigger

Cut your hair close, be clean-shaven, don't have any tattoos. Wear clean clothes, without any holes/rips/tears in them, and keep your shirt tucked in. Maintain a crisp gig-line (line-up your shirt with your belt buckle and fly). Keep your head-up, chest-out, and shoulders-straight.

Pay attention to your surroundings at all times, and make eye-contact with everyone, especially other zobgots. When other men return eye contact, give them a little nod, then look them over for any printing i.e., concealed weapons - they should do the same to you, and is a sign of respect/acceptance. This is called "situational awareness", and is the most important aspect of blending with the zogbots.

Keep your shoes clean, with double-knotted laces that are no longer than necessary (I replace my laces with paracord, and leave just enough length to keep them tied, double-knotted, and tucked into the retaining strap on the tongues of my boots). If you must wear a baseball cap, get one with a USA flag on it, or some other "patriotic" bullshit (blue lives matter, wounded warrior, NRA, some gun/shooting company), but NO SPORTS TEAMS. A plain cap with no logo is also acceptable.

All forms of fagball are for ass-packing normies, not zogbots or Volkish men. Do not wear any sort of fagball clothes, as this will mark you out as a phaggot.

If you're in an environment that allows it, open-carry a handgun on your hip, using a military or police holster. I open-carry a Beretta 92FS in a Fobus or Blackhawk holster on my hip, and conceal-carry a Glock 26 in a Miami-classic shoulder holster, and hide a combination of .380 and .32 pistols in my pockets and underwear. I also carry two reloads for both of my 9mm handguns two magazine on one hip, and two more under my arm. But don't open-carry unless it's already common where you live,or you'll get the wrong kind of attention from on-duty zogbots.

A button-down shirt or polo is a must, as are navy-blue/olive-green/khaki trousers. Cargo pants are to be avoided, unless they are Mil-Spec in appearance (ripstop nylon, without those faggot carpenter's hoops and jangly zippers) and sharply pressed. Any drawstrings are to be knotted-off and cut-down, lest you look like a cherry-boy. I wear Tru-Spec, Proper, and 5.11 Tactical brands.

Wear a functional belt, without a fancy buckle. A shooting instructor's belt would be ideal. I wear Uncle Mike's brand.

If you wear shin-high boots, do not blowse them - you'll look like a 'tard. Your trousers should just barely kiss the tops of your boots when you stand up. Keep your shoes clean, and polish the leather surfaces.

No shorts, t-shirts, or sandals. Sportswear is only acceptable if it is meant for shooting sports - no fagball shit of any kind, and no Nike/Adidas/Reebok garbage either.

Black or reflective sunglassses are a must, provided that they're not surfer/skater/boarder glasses. They should also be ANSI Z871 or MIL-PRF-31013 rated (to stop fragments, and also function as safety glasses). I wear Gray Man Tactical Sunglass, from Smith Optics.

Other than a watch and wedding band, no jewelry either.

Basically, dress like an off-duty cop. And don't open-carry unless it's already common in your area.

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>>89469

Shit hit the fan survival tips topic.

>Tried to use scissors but I I cut my left hand.

You're fucked, dude.

>>89581

okay you caught me I haven't really cut my I hand but I I am afraid I am, I only have very sharp kitchen scissors and I had the realization if I miss I'll fuck up my hand badly.

>>89480

used beard trimmers, it took forever *I was a beardfag years ago I didn't like number number 4 so I went for 3 I think beard trimmers cut slightly longer than normal clippers but I am not sure so don't quote on that**

>>89523

You carry 4 handguns?

>>90410

> Four handguns

No. I carry five. A Beretta 92FS with two reloads, a Glock 26 with two high-cap G17 reloads, a Ruger LCP in my right-front pocket, a Kahr CT380 in my left-back pocket, and a Kel-Tec P32 between my pants my underwear.

However, I only carry this loadout when I'm out with my family in my rural town. When I go out by myself, in an environment where I need to conceal-carry, I only carry the Glock, the Ruger, and the Kel-Tec.

I also carry a Ka-Bar dagger on the rear-left side of my belt, a Benchmade automatic knife clipped to my front-left pocket, a small Swiss-made Victorinox knife in my left-front pocket, and a Cold Steel Black Bear Classic fighting knife (the old style, made from O1 tool steel) on my right-side belt.

I keep it all held-up with belt-and-suspenders, and I partially-conceal it all under an unbuttoned suit jacket blazer or a Scott-E-vest hoodie.

If I'm staying at a hotel, I wear the Kahr while I'm sleeping, and keep an AR-15 next to the bed.

I carry so many guns for two reasons. Firstly, there is no position from which I am unable to reach at least one weapon with one of my hands. Secondly, I can arm-up other people in an active-shooter situation.

I have never had need to use any of it, and intend to continue with said lack of need.

Unrelatedly, when I'm out with the family I also carry in my cargo-pockets: cotton hankies, wet-wipes, a diaper, homemade beef-jerky, nut/fruit bars, band-aids, antibiotic gel, burn-relief gel, sting-relief gel, floss, and chapstick. On my blazer/jacket, I wear a body-cam, and carry cotton hankies, more wet-wipes, a flask filled with almond/coconut milk concentrate, more bandaids/gel, my phone, wallet, and a comb.

I also carry a man-purse (it's a bicycle messenger bag), filled with food, beverages, diapers, and wipes.

I keep a go-bag in the car, filled with food and water, spare clothes including sneakers, blankets, medical gear, camping gear, a solar charger, land-nav gear (paper+digital), radios, and a DeLorne now owned by Garmin satellite communicator I can send/receive SMS messages anywhere on the globe, and have $250k of emergency helicopter-pickup insurance. Also more diapers, and a pocket bible. If I'm going to be more than one-hour from home, I supplement this with a rifle-bag, containing my piston-driven AR single-point sling and red-dot sight, lots of magazines, and a night-vision spotting optic. The go-bag also has spare batteries for all the electronics.

Yes, I look ridiculous. Yes, it takes forever to get ready. Yes, it weighs a ton. Yes, I can probably do without most of this crap. Yes, I rotate-through the food and water every few months. And yes, I use this "unrelated" stuff all the time (except for the rifle). Even the body-cam is useful, allowing for taking candid home-movies.

The only thing I don't carry is armor, which I'm considering correcting.

I've also changed things up considerably during the Red Death outbreak. I only go out by myself, my family has not left the house since 26 January, wearing a jumpsuit and PPE, with just the Glock underneath. Decontamination is a pain in the ass, and I can't clean all that crap every time I go out for fresh eggs/milk or farm+garden gear.

I just dug out 192 cartons of milk from a head start trash dumpster, You can try an ordinary school but the police guard might shoot you.

Do anyone know how to drain our blood and store it properly? Coronavirus throw the iron out of host cell so we need to replace our infected blood with clean blood until we develop antibodies.

>>87710

You'll also want surgical pads and plenty of gauze handy too (and all kinds of different sized bandages and compression wraps). Don't stash that stuff away in boxes where you have to find & dig it up come emergency or it will not be of good use. I have a lot of my guns and ammo (not all, but many) stored in a separate bulletproofed room on racks, near heavy duty supply shelving that has most of my first-aid go-to. That includes stuff to decontaminate and cover wounds to suture lacerations when need be, as well as strong duct tape for temporary emergency closure in the event of a shoot-out. One window in the room, looking out front, originally an office area (not anymore!)…. it's got fiberglass paneling mounted to the walls and through the side frame studs in front of the window with a section cut out to aim and fire safely from the inside (easily engaging any potential threats from the outside while shielded indoors). If there were ever a shoot-out I would guarantee it would likely be from there…. and that's where I store most the common medical aid, having open access to it in times of crisis. You should make two rooms like this, one in the front of your home and one in the back. Make sure all entry points to the inside are fortified too, to prevent typical B&E jobs.

>>90695

I find carrying a lighter and a pack of matches handy too, not necessarily for smoking but good encase you get stuck somewhere unexpectedly and have to build up a bon fire to keep warm. Other than that, most stuff you mentioned I stash away in my truck when I go out (besides the particular models of guns, and the diapers lol). I do carry one 9mm on me most of the time though, with a couple spare loaded clips. I could never leave the home without loaded cargo pants either.

>Decontamination is a pain in the ass, and I can't clean all that crap every time I go out for fresh eggs/milk

I too had a problem with decontaminating foods, but remember the virus only lives on surfaces so long. Since I have plenty of food stocked up, I stash away any new foods for a few days before I start using it, and by that time the virus is most likely dead.

>>91033

someone post that full image where you can see the jew star at the right

>>91363

> Lighters

Yes, I have those too. I don't generally carry one with my, as I don't smoke, but I have a variety of fire-starting tools included in my go-bag's camping gear.

> Decontam PITA

It's not just the items I purchase, but also the gear I wear. Sanitizing my phone, ID, credit cards, shoes, clothes, sunglasses, respirator, etc., is a pain. So I only carry the absolute minimum when I go out.

> Cleaning foodstuffs

Also a PITA. I think I've already gone over this in the bread, but to recap:

> things that are shelf-stable sit for two weeks in a detached building

> items requiring refrigeration (like milk) get bleached, then refrigerated

> packaged frozen foods also get bleached, then frozen

> no fresh fruits or veggies

> UV-C lighting and an ozone generator is used to hasten sanitation

> traps are used to keep vermin at-bay (although the ozone generator appears to have driven-off everything, even the spiders)

The virus can potentially live on surfaces for more than a week, but at least three days.

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I just cut a small tree with a machete and I my hand is shakeing like crazy sorry if i ma making typos. iam not use to manual laboor

>>89676

drug closed in my area only drive thru and can't find any at the grocery

>Life with short hair, and no beard, is so much simpler

I know but I miss it I would get complements when I grew it but a year ago I had to cut it all off I got a restaurant job in the front

>>77179

Killdozer situations will likely be spontaneous, and you'd generally want your propane for cooking not stashing as a nigger fougasse. In other words it's unlikely that you'd stash your gas supply like that. Not sure an asploding propane tank is going to fuck up an improvised armored vehicle either.

>wtf is a fougasse some kind of food

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fougasse_(weapon)

If someone were really serious about this they'd dig in an 18" piece of culvert, boresighted down the primary approach, filled with whatever nastiness they could pack in, and backed by a generous amount of explosive. This is unrealistic for 99% of us.

>>94777

Perhaps the propane tank idea would be better to thwart and kill off mobs of looters trying to rush your property, that is if you catch them quick enough ahead of time. Otherwise sawing down a couple of medium sized trees to block the nearby road would work to thwart most armored vehicles from entering onto the property (maybe, that is if they can't drive right across the landscape). Another idea is to dig huge ditches all along your property before things escalate to that point, that way any vehicle that tries to enter would likely get stuck in the ditches. All these scenarios are really only good for people with a lot of land in the rural areas though. You likely can't get away with it if you live too close to other people.

One more idea that might work: block off your driveway with a couple old clunkers. Pack the old clunkers with tons of scrap shrapnel. Have the gas tanks full. Once some armored vehicle rolls around nearby you could snipe the gas tanks with a powerful caliber and blow the old clunkers up, the shrapnel itself acting as an IED after it explodes into flames. Anything around that proximity would be hit with flying shrapnel. At the very least you'd take them by surprise, and could start firing at the starstruck intruding force.

>>56510

>sliding glass door

They are basically huge windows. You may as well install bars and metal shutters on that thing. Someone's going to get in eventually.

>>58909

>concern of the weather

>helicopters at night with thermals

Be sure to take a Mylar 'space' blanket. That will reflect body heat inward. It is an inexpensive light and priceless tool in harsh weather. Mylar netting, sniper veils, Ghillie suit and other outfits that can disperse heat and break up a silhouette patterns too. You need to blend with the environment, not contradict it. Whether it be visual shape or being too cold or warm. Blend. Throwing a wool blanket over you can trap heat in for a few moments to evade a quick search caught off-guard. Use the Mylar, natural local camo, and foxhole or small camp within thick brush and canopies. Retailers sell Mylar in sporting goods, tarps, clothing, emergency blankets, and other goods. Bring mosquito/bug repellent too.

The Tallieban also used Mylar blankets to evade thermal imaging.

https://modernsurvivalblog.com/security/how-to-block-ir-infrared-thermal-imaging/

>>59370

>$320 on a 50-pack of P100 filters

>and another $250 on respirators

You're probably better off using a transparent face shield and gloves that you can keep reliably sterile and keep at least a few actual respirators and masks for each person. Anything more, unless you have a big family, is probably wasted allocation of resources. Especially if you aren't planning to be out in the general public often. Vent with windows. Long term shortages? Production should become the ultimate focus, even for medical needs. Stay healthy, care for your nutrition and you should be fine. Be smart about health and isolating patients in your care. To be honest, I'd be concerned about others trying to break into my house to shoot and rob than getting a minor respiratory illness that primarily kills and maims unhealthy subhumans anyway.

Still you don't want to be ill or weak when SHTF or when you're all alone. You can get extra masks anyway for other functions but ration them.

>>60613

>It's end.

It might not collapse but just get progressively worse every few years until all the skilled labor and high IQ populations are replaced, leading to vast depletion of resources and crumbling infrastructure the subhumans so desperately rely upon. Turning into a copy of Brazil or Venezuela. Beware that white lower classes exist too, although are less common per capita compared to others can still be very dangerous in a crowd. Seek skilled communities.

I think the worst it could possibly get, at least for major urban areas, might be a rehash of Hurricane Katrina. It will come from human error and mal-planning as a result of panic.

>>62083

>You can survive for a long fucking time with just flour, water and a multivitamin.

Maybe in a controlled and safe environment. In a survival situation you will need to expend and plan to conserve many calories to get tasks done. There's a reason they're called supplements. Have them but don't rely on them.

>>64340

>Anyone got solid pdfs on survival?

A simple google search or archive.org snooping would do it but I'll give you one. You can choose epub, pdf, and txt.

https://archive.org/details/TheSelfRelianceManifesto

>>65100

>I read somewhere on the forums that antibiotics for fish could also be used for humans

You're basically paying for the FDA approval and possible health oversight. Many "fish antibiotics" are really manufactured for humans but are labeled for fish to prevent federal intervention. I wouldn't stake my life 100% on it though. Keep in mind that you shouldn't get ones with fungicides, algicides, or other ingredients. It's still possible you may get a reaction from the "inert materials".

>>74074

>Try to keep a low profile

I'd recommend making your household and family appear poor from the start. Making it look as if it had already been looted may actually give signs to (smarter) looters that other previous looters thought or figured out the inhabitants have/had ways, means, or skills of getting supplies. Perception and deception is a game.

>anons have suggested placing signs on their properties "Biohazard" or 'Dead Inside". Maybe get some body bags

I wouldn't do that for long or even at all. If word gets around that your house is contaminated you may become a target of the state and be quarantined. In a chaotic desperate situation it may get you and your house noted and burned down.

>>74709

>will normal raintrousers and jacket provide viable protection?

If it's watertight and airtight then the aersolized microbes can't travel. You can seal the openings with sterile duct tape. The most common vector of infection will be your own mistakes, not some virus magically crawling through the pores of your waterproof raincoats.