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>>23921

>Would it be more worth my time to practice shooting and to perfect my aim than it would to practice MMA?

Everybody is doing both. Rifles, handguns, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.

>>23933

Is Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu the best martial art for combat?

>>23921

I’m glad that PAID JEWISH SHILLS like you have invented a brand new word to out yourselves with. No white person has or ever will say it. Kill yourself.

>>23957

What word did he say?

>>23964

he can't say it or he'll out himself

>>23993

Shit u right

>>23921

You need both. Your gun can run out of ammo, it could be knocked away from you, or you may not be able to reach it in time.

>>24058

Great. My gun got knocked away. So I pull out a knife. You know. Those things invented in the stone age that make hand to hand combat about 10000000 times easier with significantly less training.

And if you manage to get a gun and a kife knocked away from you, then it is evolution at work.

>>24086

Yeah but what I am saying is that if someone is attacking you, you are going to be able to take them down easier with a knife than with some martial arts bullshit. Why spend the energy of a fair fight when you can shove a knife into someone's neck? I get that the winner of a 2 person knife fight dies in the ambulance, but would you rather have a knife or not? Whether someone comes at you with their fists or a knife, a knife of your own will be a better option than the MMA-tism OP is talking about.

>>24075

>So I pull out a knife. You know. Those things invented in the stone age that make hand to hand combat about 10000000 times easier with significantly less training.

A lot of martial arts involve knife combat. It's its own entire field. If you are really good, you can stop someone before they can do any damage to you with a knife or very little damage, or, if you have a knife, you would very quickly be able to disable somebody if you know the right moves. Special forces in the militaries around the world are trained in knife combat.

>>23949

Try Judo. BJJ is a derivative of Judo and although both sports draw upon the same pool of techniques, I find Judo to be more well-rounded since it covers stand-up as well while BJJ primarily focuses on the ground game. Plus Judo doesn't have nearly as many faggot fanbois that BJJ has.

>>24101

I mean yeah, I understand a knife fight wouldn't be like the movies make them out to be (although in fairness I am pretty sure >>24086 shows a few points that can cause death within seconds). The only point I have been trying to make is that carrying a knife is more practical than beating people with your fists, as seen in >>2391. I agree there is value in learning how to fight with mere hands, but honestly I feel like if you are such a fucking idiot that you drop both your gun and your knife, you probably didn't stand much of a chance to begin with.

>>24102

>A lot of martial arts involve knife combat

A lot of those also aren't grounded in reality in that they have a non-resisting attacker that just kindly moves slow enough for you to be able to pull the move off. With the attacker obviously only doing it in a way you are prepared for: in terms of when it happens, what way he is going to approach you, that he won't use too much force and that he does it when you are paying attention to what he is doing.

>If you are really good, you can stop someone before they can do any damage to you with a knife or very little damage

If you need to be told how to do it, you very clearly aren't really good.

>>24105

>but honestly I feel like if you are such a fucking idiot that you drop both your gun and your knife, you probably didn't stand much of a chance to begin with.

There's plenty of different possibilities

>forgot to bring it

>had it confiscated (a lot of protests have searches to take weapons away, which antifa get past by either using things such as bike locks or by having them stashed in advance)

>got hit in the back of the head and dropped it momentarily

You can act like you would NEVER do a single mistake all you want but that doesn't change the fact that it is still fucking wrong.

>>24115

>A lot of those also aren't grounded in reality in that they have a non-resisting attacker that just kindly moves slow enough for you to be able to pull the move off.

Here is some footage of Russian Spetsnaz Crimson Berets, the most elite special operations force in Russia, and one of the most elite special operations forces in the world, practicing knife combat. It begins within the thirty seconds of the video.

https://youtu.be/59ZlKRzoHm0

>>24120

I didn't say all, just that most of them aren't grounded in reality. But if you bothered actually looking at the video you posted, you would see that it's a demonstration video. Demonstrations are there to look flashy, not to simulate an actual situation. Just look at 2:40, where he just hands the other guy his foot so that he could do a backflip for the viewers while the guy on the left pretends to be dazed so that he could be taken down. You are retarded if you thought it was training.

>i'm fairly strong

>I've never been in a fight in my life

So you're not.

BJJ is okay but throwing is better in a riot and if you don't know how to strike (Muay Thai, Boxing ect) you're going to get demolished.

Muay Thai is good an there are alot of gyms for it. Taelwondo has good kicks but I wouldn't recommend it, it's not really made for real fights.

Most of all you want a gym that allows face hits so that you can pratice for a real fight.

Real fights are dirty and if 1v1 will most likely end on the ground unless you have a great stance and can throw your fists. So learning wrestling>or BJJ is usefull.

Grapple and Striking.

I took a breed of Systema for a while but I can not attest to it most schools are bullshit. If you can find a school take it. It has great grappling and striking but I would still recommnd Muay Thai as it's amazing. Especially the knees which are usefull. Most Martial Arts tend to be afraid to put knees in mouths for whatever unfathomable reason

>>24154

>Taelwondo has good kicks but I wouldn't recommend it, it's not really made for real fights.

Taekwondo seems like one of those martial arts that's popular for kids to take. What's Taekwondo made for, then?

>>23949

join MMA gym. muai thai, greco roman wrestling, bjj - make you well rounded. good workout

>>24194

Kick attacks. Taekwondo is the art of kicking.

Tbh I recommend every legit anon watch Eric Dubay's vid The Science of Self-Defense. Wingchun and more. Wingchun seems to be the best looking & most practical & effective martial art. Disarming / defending against knife attackers while unarmed included.

>>24086

Noice knoife-s!

>>24154

>Taelwondo has good kicks but I wouldn't recommend it

Would say the same for Karate. It falls into the issue of tournament rules defining what you end up training for. And since the tournament rules in Karate forbid punching the face (kicking is fine though), you aren't going to be training very much for that.

>>24163

Can confirm that Muay Thai is really good. Systema can work if it's someone competent but usually it's just someone cashing in on the meme.

>>24204

Wingchun has an alarming number of McDojos so although Wingchun can be decent, I wouldn't recommend it to people.

Since most fights go to the ground here's some catch wrestling titles to check out for anybody that is interested in learning some different moves and is sick of bjj krav maga etc

Legal Pain - Wade Schalles

The Art of Hooking - Tony Cecchine

>>24164

>What is Taekwondo made for

Well Taekwondo techincally doesn't exist anymore. Back in the old days Japan destroyed it and only recently had it come back as a sort of cultural thing.

Modern day Taekwondo is Korean Karate centered around kicking.

Kicking which is included in other Martial Arts like Muay Thai or Jet Kun Do. It has some good ones like the Side Kick or Round Kick which you should master and add to your arsenal. But I can say with full confinedence you will never use some of it's more complex kicks like the cresent or hook kick. And as for striking? It has some good blocks like the Reverse Outer forearm block but it's abysmall with only rudmientry punching and useless things like the Ridgehand and Knifehand. The Palm Strike could be usefull but it's also found in Muay Thai.

Honestly just take the few good moves out of it and focus on another martial art like Muay Thai that has good striking.

>tl;dr it's korean karate centered around kicking

>>24253

That's its and Karate by extensions problem (As they are bassically the same). As they are made for Kids in mind. WTF and ATA at least.

Taking out

>sweeping, face punching even elbow strikes

Makes it untranslatable to the real world. Sure if you're training for striking leaving out ground wrestling is key. But leaving out face punches? That's silly.

Learning to take a punch to the face is one of the MOST IMPORTANT parts of learning to fight. Keep those teeth clenched, when you watch your opponent's ears go down as he unclenches his jaw batter him. The basics that Karate leaves out. So many fights can be dissolved if your opponent gets a good face strike on you and you can't take it or open yourself up to it. I swear it's because parents are afraid their child "might get hurt" so they sanitize it. Yeah he's going to get hurt but you can't get stronger if you don't first get hurt

>>25957

Mixed up the hook kick with another kick. The hook kick can be effective, but I'm also a random idiot on the internet. Actually watch and praticipate in fights and find what works best to get to that damage node and end a fight.

>>24075

You have never been in a knife fight, you have no idea how to fight with a knife. Stop talking about the knife so cavalierly as a realistic option you're going to take. You won't.

If you pulled a knife on a capable and trained opponent, you have escalated the conflict to the point that you will be lucky to escape with your life. If a nigger pulled a knife on you, would you kill him if you could?

>>24105

>The only point I have been trying to make is that carrying a knife is more practical than beating people with your fists

It's only practical to carry a weapon if you know how to sue it well, and under duress. A knife will do nothing but give you false confidence if you haven't trained with one.

>>26197

>Martial Arts is all kung-fu, wu-shu, and other showey styles

Even the above-mentioned knife fighting is a martial art.

>>26213

They were specifically talking about punches to the head, not kicks.

>>26213

Not just "some" but I would even say most. I was talking about punches to the face being forbidden.

>>26197

>most of what you'll be doing is posing for years before ever get to spar an opponent

Only if you unironically buy into the meme of traditional clubs, since all "traditional" means is that you go through endless katas and other types of drills. BJJ is a good example of a martial art where you spar and actually learn something practical.

Martial Arts requires sports specific exercises. The exercises are most important, since a technique can be learned in a day – making a technique effective is just balance, speed, precision, strength (power), and durability.

As a note and probably general principle – I recall from a Steve Justa book I think that his friend and him competed on who could punch a 80 or 100 or 120 lb punching bag the furthest up to the ceiling, and his friend won. His friend wasn't stronger than him, had a relatively low bench (like 250 lbs), but could wrist curl 220 or 280 lbs (two hands) for a few reps. This is what Steve Justa thinks is the defining difference, and it makes sense that your body could throw a lot more power into something with a more solid wrist and forearms and thus elbow as well.

If you're trying to have more powerful kicks, strengthening your ankles makes sense. If you can calf raise 400 lbs+, maybe 550 lbs, and shin raise maybe 100 lbs, you could probably kick like a donkey.

Then there's changing direction on a note – this is a matter of momentum, poise. Acting like you're walking on ice at all times can help here, or doing common movement patterns in a fight (agility/dexterity/footwork training) on an actually slippery surface (use a plastic sheet on a hard surface with oil, for instance, or with oiled feet/shoes). Do it with a weight vest intermittently. Balance on one leg and move the other leg around, stretch it around or go through the pattern of a kick slowly, don't put your foot down, pivot on the hip and knee and ankle, do with and without weight (ankles, waist, vest). Hell, do ballet or tai chi or create your own movement patterns to develop the mind-body, loosen things up and strengthen all the interconnected muscles along with a more direct available connection/activation with each muscle; instill many different movement patterns whilst training things a bit differently with each movement pattern. Your upper body and arms affect balance too, so make sure to do different things with both your legs and upper body both while balancing or agility training. Run trails barefoot (take shoes off when you get there) or the beach (probably safer) as the chaotic terrain is better for the feet and ankles and joints of the legs (since your foot/ankle doing something a bit different each step pulls and strains 'chaotically' up the chain of joints) to develop natural well-rounded connective tissue, muscle firing patterns (since they have to compensate somewhat chaotically but organically) and bone.

Acetylcholine is a contractile neurochem found at the junction of joints, and in the brain as a situational awareness and communication chem. Eat eggs or other choline rich foods. It will improve quick thinking and as I said, situational awareness, both necessary for fighting. Since it's the communication chem, verbal sparring should help train the mind and spur on acetylcholine production in the body, improving fighting capacity 'indirectly'. Try to react to things immediately and always be aware of your surroundings. Notice blind spots in your spatial/auditory/visual awareness, and constantly revisit them until they begin to disappear. Notice if you're stiff and would be slow to react. Keep track of bodies (people, animals) in your environment, notice their attitude and level of aggression and threat.

Harden up your body. Your knuckles, your soft parts, all of it. Strengthen your neck, add meat to it. Cold helps shrink wrap the body and make some things more efficient. As well, sudden painful experiences help toughen up the system so that it doesn't go into shock or dumb when shit hits the fan.

>>23949

Jujitsu is the best for 1 on 1. You need to learn something else for different situations

>>31250

The empirically best fighting styles are boxing, kickboxing, wrestling, judo and jiu jitsu. The grappling for 1v1 and the striking for multiple opponents. Realistically you wont be able to train them all so pick one from each category (striking/grappling) and try to round out your game

Just be well armed and try to avoid getting close enough. Snipers would be better than street fighters.

>>43229

whats the benefits of a makiwara over a traditional bag? any recomme dations for kick training

>>23921

No, hand to hand is a Hollywood meme. Boogaloo will be like any modern insurgency - almost all ambush/IED/raid/sabotage. Of course, you should also learn how to shoot (a rifle).

Is (((Krav Maga))) the real deal or is it overhyped like all things Jewish?

>>23921

It really depends on the situation. Generally speaking it's not a bad idea to learn martial arts to know what you're supposed to do in a bad spot, but I don't see it (or knife training) being particularly useful in real combat except for elite commandos. In a war tactics, coordination, and stealth (also logistics, but that's something done beforehand) are way more valuable and are on par with aim. If you're getting mugged and unarmed I doubt it will do anything but kill you. In a riot fighting a bunch of goons is likewise suicidal unless you have backup, and you'd be better off steering clear of such gatherings. Like >>43165 said real soldiers fight at a distance; if you have to close with the enemy then you fix a bayonet and know how to use that.

However martial arts are quite valuable if you're threatened and the attacker is unarmed. Drawing a gun or knife WILL lead to a lot of legal trouble regardless of whether you're in the right, so being able to incapacitate him bare-handed could be very helpful. Also if you're a Britbong martial arts is mandatory, because you're likely to locked away if you ever show a knife to anyone. Elsewhere, if you can carry a firearm for defense then do so, if you cannot then carry a knife (but not one that makes you look like you're out to stab someone!), if you cannot do even that then learn to fight barehanded.

>>26219

>It's only practical to carry a weapon if you know how to sue it well, and under duress. A knife will do nothing but give you false confidence if you haven't trained with one.

This and make sure to know the law.

>>26258

Probably the best advice for the experienced.

>>43291

(((Krav Maga))) is basically groan attacks, groan attacks work but it's highly overrated because it's hard to hit and it takes few seconds for the pain to register. it's better just to go for the knees

>>43417

HEMA is hardly practical in real life combat unless you insist on carrying with you a longsword at all times like a fedora-tier autist. For a boog scenario you could definitely use HEMA experience with a long dagger/shortsword and get away with it without looking like a retard. Of course, if possible use one with a cross guard.

>>23949

Pre-Broughton rules pugilism and catch wrestling with Kampfringen techniques thrown in is the ideal martial art. Also HEMA for the cold weapon combat, none of that Filipino shite. And when you bend your bow look at our English longbow technique, not that draw to your chin bollocks, the string goes to the ear.

>>43518

As a guy with a kung fu background as well I agree. A lot of people have misconceptions about Chinese martial arts. I’ve been hearing a lot of people saying that kung fun doesn’t have grappling or ground fighting which is especially untrue. It’s just hard to find kung fu demonstrated on the internet in a clear fashion.

>>43524

Kung fu*

I swear they make spellcheck on iPhones worse and worse.

>>43524

I've been doing Hung Gar for a while at a good club but the complete lack of sparring and unfocused teaching is irritating me. I've been stuck doing arrowhand for months because they do random shite every time and won't finish teaching it, and it's like a memory test. I did Wing Chun at the same place but the excellent trapping isn't worth putting up with the rest of the nonsense within that style. A few really good fellas in there, with many real fights, but it is far more inefficient than say, boxing, in how fast it makes you a good fighter.

The only reason I tolerate no sparring is that I've boxed before anyway, so I know how to fight, I just need more techniques.

>>23921

It is good to know and train for hand to hand combat. The problem is this is next to useless when you are outnumbered by a mob or have to fight someone who is armed. Europeans would benefit more from this kind of knowledge than the average American (here you would be safer training to shoot accurately because half the population is armed over here).

>>43527

In the style I learned we sparred, but i would recommend sparring with people outside of classes anyway because the techniques with practice will work. I’m in a martial arts club right now and I spar with a variety of people, funnily enough the best fighters in the club are the kung fu practitioners. They even throw around the resident Muay Thai fighter because they’re so good at the sweeps, throws, and holds in kung fu.

>>43533

Checked. Yeah I need to get some sparring partners. I do like Kung Fu because we practice with shoes on and proper clothing, makes more sense than fighting in your bare feet and shorts, which will never happen in reality unless I'm on the beach.

>>43580

>As such you do not need to be told that getting kicked in the balls hurts

the thing is your junk moves as your hips move making it hard to hit and a hit doesn't always make the attacker to automatically go down in a fight.

>>43580

>standing around like a retard is going to get you killed

Truest shit white people often overlook. I say that because an honor system is deeply ingrained in our being and in this honorless world it's going to get you fucked over not most of the time, EVERY-TIME. Learned this the hard way myself as most people growing up getting in trouble tend to.

Kid made a stupid mistake standing around joking when he could have capitalized on the retard pulling his pants down over his shoes and hit him a dozen times in the fucking head while his legs would be permanently tied up. Instead he looks like the retard in this video. Stuff like that makes me cringe so hard because I've been there and the only way to fight isn't fair. If you're fighting fair you're losing.

>>43580

>Krav Maga is done by the Israeli military not for actual combat but simply to get people into the notion of being aggressive and using any means necessary when it comes to fighting.

This is what I have been told too, "Krava Maga" is just a 2 week training program IDF recruits do to get them in the mindset and teach fundamentals, not some kind of actual fighting style. But in the USA and abroad there are a fuckton of charlatans who try to sell Krava Maga as some kind of ultimate fighting style and put on a bunch of bullshit, showy presentations of techniques that IDF doesn't even actually use and try to sell the whole hokey package as some hardcore fighting style when they're mostly just making it up and slapping a fake name on it.

>>43530

At a certain competence, you can go 1v10 or some shit. Depends on your willingness to reach mastery on how far you will go. There are so many people who know nothing about fighting who are willing to slap someone around if part of a mob. Think about it. Even if they're decent brawlers and tough, a certain mastery let's you go up against 10 of them, and perhaps 30 of the incompetent mob.

Just set your goal and build around it.

>>43580

What's the lesson from this video? It's better to be the one throwing the sucker punch than taking it. There is no honor in matters of self defense and who's to say that nigger isn't going to stomp on your head after he gains his advantage? There is no learning to fight btw, gay ass sparring sessions and the the glorified dancing techniques you'll learn at the mcdojo won't help if you are a pussy. Why even bother if you're American? Just get a gun ffs, then when some nigger clocks you when you don't expect it and straddles him you can kill him with no repercussions. God i envy your gun laws.

>>46784

>At a certain competence, you can go 1v10 or some shit.

Lmao. Maybe if you had a knife and nobody else did but even then you'd probably get shit on. They could just pile on top of you and leave one free to stomp you out.

>>46798

>pile on top

There are people that can man handle grown men. It's called strength. Or you could just knock people out and not let yourself stay grabbed, be agile. Speed x Strength + Perception/Awareness. You're imagining some fighting pleb trying this shit – imagine a master instead of a fucking strawman. Your imagination made a logical fallacy.

>>46802

Well the average guy isn't 6'5 with Herculean strength are they? I don't even think a professional fighter who really dedicated himself to it could deal with ten average men coming at him together. Seems like some sort of ridiculous pedowood fantasy action scenario.

>>46808

Like just rushing together would be enough to nullify any strength bonus. Picture the muscle tendons and bone of ten men squished into one, it's way bigger than any pencildick roidrage faggot you can point to.

>>46808

>Average guy

Did you purposefully misread what I said. Come on. Exercise some reading comprehension. First 4 words "At a certain competence. . . ."

>>46809

>muscle tendons and bone of ten squished into one

This is not how a group of people works you mook. I can stomp 1000 rats, but 1000 rats "squished into one" is an 800 lb gorilla or buffalo.

You are unironically part of the mob, and going to get your fucking ass kicked after telling the 9 others to bumrush the fucker that looks like he kills wild animals with his bear hands on the weekly: "together, we have the strength of 10 men! get him!"

You're imagining some roided weightlifter, when that isn't the kind of fucker I'm talking about. You have no clue what the world has in store. There are people that can twist your head off in a couple seconds, break your arm at the elbow in half a second; be careful.

>>46809

The fact that you said something this retarded should tell you that you're reaching beyond your fucking level. What's your education level, if you don't mind answering?

>>46808

Speaking from experience here: a trained fighter can handle multiple untrained combatants pretty easily. If it's ten guys rushing you, you just have to use them as cover against the others, and land a disabling blow on him before the others can surround you. Muay thai's elbow focused infighting is incredible at it, but boxing works almost as well.

>>46808

That's pretty naive. One man, psychologically conditioned to fight, can beat ten men who have not. It takes a certain degree of courage, or fury, to get over the inherent instinct to avoid taking harm. One very buffed out man can wade into a group of ten and send them flying. You have to introduce knives and guns to level the field, but that also means you have to take either option away from the super soldat as well. You can only cram 10 combatants into such a small space anyways, they could get in eachother's way.

>>46848

I'm saying if the kind of person that could overpower ten average men exists he is one in ten million and there's probably some weird biological quirk that makes it possible that isn't related to his training.

>>46857

The fact you misinterpreted it this hard says a lot too. I'm talking sheer mass, picturing them together is just a visual aid. Have you ever even been rushed by more than two people? It becomes a stomp almost as soon as they swarm you. You sound like somebody who has taken a bunch of self defense classes but never been in a real fight.

I got kicked out of high school during my last year but I was testing at a university level when I was last in education (at some shitty "school" for bums and dropouts though). I haven't been in any education since that point.

List since me people who you think could fight ten men at once and win. Lets just forget about the extra retarded claim of fighting off 30 altogether.

>>46869

Maybe but we are talking about something that would take decades of practice and even then wouldn't be a sure thing. I've seen tough guys who spent their whole lives fighting get decimated just because one extra guy stepped in so I have a hard time picturing this.

>>46879

>Maybe but we are talking about something that would take decades of practice

Says who?

>just because one extra guy stepped in

That's why I said you have to drop them quickly and use them as cover. The moment you're actually surrounded you're fucked regardless of how many there are or how well trained they are unless there's an insane ability gap. You need to get in there to turn it into a series of sequential one on one fights against a single untrained opponent at a time.

>>46878

>>46885

I still highly doubt it but I'm not about to have a long arguing about a hypothetical scenario. A healthy guy could demolish ten twiglets for sure but when I say average men I'm picturing men with actual strength and mass not soy faggots, think builders or something. Your scenario requires regular people to be extra weak and/or have zero fighting experience which just isn't the case for most men. I'll concede and say yes we could beat ten beta soys but the beta soys would never put themselves in that situation to begin with.

>>46879

>The fact you misinterpreted it this hard says a lot too.

I didn't misinterpret shit. You said something fucking retarded even if I stretch the meaning of it. Like the post above said, 10 guys will get in eachother's way, and I made a very clear point that you didn't fucking comprehend (once again): multiple weak opponents does not make any one of them any stronger. The only time what you said has any relevance is if you are literally dog piled, and you can still wriggle out of such a thing because they aren't a solid weight and they aren't strong and clinging to you well and overpowering you.

You are fucking retarded. You are at max fighting 4 at a time. You only need to learn how to fight FOUR at a time. If you can fight FOUR, you can fight FOURTY (if endurance is good enough). Or let's stretch it: 6. At most you are fighting SIX. Just in case, you learn how to fight SIX at a time.

>Have you ever been rushed by more than two people?

Let's assume we have two well-trained or aggressive individuals with good instincts that have gotten over the psychological repulsion to pain and harm – already we're talking a couple of joes above the average. Let's assume they're going at you at the same time – spring and kick to the neck at the last second, no cue that you would kick given ahead of time. They just charged into your fucking foot and got their windpipe crushed. Now it's a 1v1. Congrats. Eat shit. Simple strategy that would actually work, and reduces the fight to 1v1. Even if the other guy tackles you immediately after, it's still a 1v1. Getting tackled isn't that bad generally. You'll likely have an arm free on the side you're landing on, so it's definitely not too bad.

"Never been in a real fight" yeah I know you're bitter about getting your ass kicked. Either way there are people who can kick your ass and 9 others while they're at it. I've sparred bare kunckle and gloved; I'm not a badass, I can just think things through and have seen higher levels of competence than myself. I've never taken a self-defense class, they would probably tell me I'm fucked in a 2v1 or however many. All you need to do to see my side of things: See the good, the great, the special – understand it, then put it all together. ONE person does that, irons out the details, pays their due diligence, and they're a martial god. People just aren't perceptive or hold onto good things, or lack comprehension to understand things, or they don't follow through and make it happen.

[Reading through: Since you tested at university level, even in a shit school, it's at least worth arguing with you.]

Here: https://www.thehumanmarvels.com/joseph-greenstein-the-mighty-atom/

You can contest the claims I guess, but fighting off multiple people when your body can't be harmed by conventional means (fist, kick) because you bend and break metal/chains with your torso, balance platforms with people on them on your head (or whatever the fuck he did) and are strong from bending and breaking metal with your hands, it isn't that much of a stretch. You talk about being grappled: If you're strong you can grab a person's flesh and pierce through it with your fingers (assuming grip strength). How will they hold on when you can bend metal, and so bend limbs? How can they hold on when they are in pain from their muscle tearing in your hands?

I recall in fight science (the show) showing the small asian man hitting quick and short (a jab, really), and nearly hitting as hard as the big heavyweight american throwing a full cross – a point that went over the heads of the 'scientists' conducting the 'experiment'. My point in mentioning this is that the people who train for a powerful short 'jab' get what they seek. To add: Ramsey Dewey is anti TMA, says it's all bullshit, but he told a story about this old man moving like those fuckers you read about, that kung fu movies try to imitate – swaying around and dodging every punch, and how he would throw him to the ground without Ramsey knowing how and when again and again and again. Ramsey was getting pissed and just gave it all he could but would get thrown to the ground in a second and wouldn't know how, again and a-fucking-gain. He had the whole asian mythos going on: doing flips, leg vertically in the fucking air and perfectly controlled (doing a standing split pretty much), making the yips and HAs, and fucking laughing.

If your mind and senses move quick enough, you're not missing a beat. You're in the game and never out of it. You get punched and you don't 'lose time' – your mind and senses are both tough, tenacious, vigorous, quick and powerful. You might lose .1 seconds, but most who have any fighting experience lose .3 or so, and they're going blind for that time. Some lose only .09, or .08, or .05 (who the fuck knows).

Some can throw a 50 mph punch. Analyzing footage, Bruce Lee demonstrated a ~60 mph punch, when most pro boxers reach 35 mph, maybe 40 mph in featherweight. It's not a matter of 'most'. Punches that were slamming people, not some light weak shit. Being great doesn't mean dully following some beaten path. It means THINKING every day, every moment. Never 'going through the motions', always powering through, always analyzing, always thinking. more more moremoremoremore. People don't live that way. That's why you don't see it happen. People don't want to constantly seek better and more, to constantly improve in every conceivable way.

Your experience is of somewhat normal people just living their lives. Maybe it DOES take 10 years to 1v10 above average joes, young tradesman let's say. So what? I never claimed otherwise. I believe it could be done sooner, but ten years is reasonable. Let's say you learn to read people as well. Can even predict how they'll move, how they'll react… because it's never a sure thing, hence you needing to perceive and have accurate perceptions. To be able to READ people. It's possible, plain and simple. Whether someone achieves it. . . . almost irrelevant, as people can't manage to execute and achieve the simplest of fucking things out of some bullshit mass psychosis or something. Doesn't make sense. Just achieve it.

>>46929

**It's necessary to read people. mb

>>46869

Dude you are a spaz. Even if those ten guys only weigh 150 lbs each you're talking about getting charged by 1,500 pounds of shit and pinned to the ground by it, it would be worse than getting knocked over by a running horse. I've personally seen an EXTREMELY large man who liked to "play rough" and thump on his players get tackled by a bunch of younger college age guys who tackled and dog piled him just for fun to get back at him for his aggressive behavior. They completely ran his ass over and he couldn't fully get out from under them either, even though he could push part way up against the ground with his elbow, and even that was insane and not something most men could do. The big guy ended up with a cracked rib or something similar even though it was just play fighting. If those guys had actually been wailing on him he would have been helpless and fucked. If the big guy had swung on them he might have got one or two but it wouldn't have stopped the mob. There is no way for anyone to truly fight ten fucking guys at once if they all attack in one pig push, it is a (((Hollywood))) myth designed to disconnected you further from reality.

>>47104

Most of it is avoiding getting taken to the ground, of course. I was just providing an example of what a normal person could do with the "kick then get tackled" example. As for the guy you're talking about: That's an interesting story, thanks. There are just people on a whole 'nother level. It's not just strength. I don't know any martial gods but I'll let you know if I meet one.

>>47104

A single strong man can take on a group if he keeps on the move, isn't cornered/encircled and doesn't go down to the ground. It's the basics of 1vMany, keep the crowd at bay until you can get a few swings into the closest individuals while keeping distance from the rest. The longer you keep this up the better since they'll demoralize and become fearful of the guy "fighting" many at once. The downside of being taken to the ground is that you need one person to be willing to take the multiple hits the strong man is gonna throw out while the others rush him and no one wants to volunteer for that role.

I got a question you Beegheygay chuddy cucks.

How do you fight somebody like this?

You die.

>>47273

By hitting him from behind with a metal pole that killed him instantly. I don't remember the name, but there was a heavyweight boxing champion killed by some thugs over land dispute. Killing machines killed by some sneaky niggers. Practice your peace games.

5'4 manlet one hit one kill 6'2 world champion powerlifter.

>>47273

>how do you fight this 0.01% outlier

With bullets or >>47315

BJJ allows you to beat any American. Watch this.

Think about it logically: You bend steel, and the exertion strains radially. It uses the hands, the arms, the shoulders, the back and chest, the 'core', the neck – these things are for sure engage, as they are required for bending steel. And then, realize, that the skull is very much connected to the neck. Realize that if you're straining the neck quite a bit, the skull too is strained. Realize that the jaw is definitely tensed quite a bit during ANY exertion, and especially if the neck is, and it's connected to the skull. Realize again that the face is strained during any exertion. How could the skull not develop in bone and tissue strength? It would make no sense if it didn't. The exertion from bending steel, as with any exertion, is radial. It radiates out.

Now steel bending is special because it develops the tendons and bones like no other. It is the best exercise for developing bone and tendon strength (if you have a better suggestion I'd like to hear it). The body tends to learn one's conscious effortful exertions though; so if you steel bend, your whole body becomes biased towards muscle contractions and firing patterns and chemical balances that you would find in your arms and such from steel bending. The body is intraconnected and it makes more logical sense that your skull muscle and tendon and bone would bias towards a composition as you would find in your hands and arms and such from steel bending. Recognize that for any one part of the skull to be weak doesn't make too much sense, as the weakest link will always break first, and so as a rule the bones and body in general strengthens all-around to prevent this. There's a limit to the induction, of course, but the neck is employed quite a bit in steel bending to brace the upper body such that it makes sense that the skull would be well developed by it.

To put a direct pressure on the skull magnifies this effect perhaps tenfold. As stated, the weak link breaks first. The skull must develop over-all. To put a direct pressure on it risks its destruction, and so must most definitely develop in whole. So bending steel over your head would lead to a skull that can largely go unharmed by a small caliber bullet or metal pipe. I personally know someone, a bus mechanic, that had the bus fall of the jack or something and the tire land on his head. His head was under the tire for 30 seconds or so before someone managed to jack the bus back up.

The limits you believe are THE limits are merely conventional. Experience is no great informer. It has no obligation to divulge what's possible or even what Is.

Read Kant niggers. Some of us don't, but the rest of you fucks do.

>>23949

If you aren't opposed to participating to a third degree of jewry, the Israeli Special Forces have Krav Maga which is a peer-reviewed self defense system (not an art)

It incorporates the most real-life practical moves from a variety of arts and modifies them to be in line with natural muscle memory mechanics.

I've lived a wild life and have had loaded guns put to my head 3 times. Don't think you'll ever use hand to hand in that situation, a finger can move a trigger faster than you can move an arm. Street fights are one thing, but when it's real guns on the street, either be prepared to run or have firepower combined with tactics. Anything else will get you killed.

>>46808

There's a video of some Pajeet doing exactly this, if I can find it.

He was fighting more than ten, I think about 20, and his two sons were with him, but they weren't much use. He kept backpedaling and leading them around obstacles, not letting them surround him, and pretty much every punch he threw knocked someone out.

>>49416

Found it. It was a turkroach, not a streetshitter.

How to destroy soros and become rich doing it:

1: Pretend you are a pro-immigration organization.

2: Take all his money

3: Keep half of it, donate rest to white power orgz.

??

Works great for me, just take some pictures of standing outside with a cardboard sign saying "No racists on our streets". Send them to george soros semen drinker and he will shower you with money. Easiest scam ever.

I paid my house loans this way.

>>46802

>There are people that can man handle grown men. It's called strength

Youre talking about someone who can (easily) move someone about 200 lbs with one arm and still have the stamina and balance to not get hit, tripped, grabbed, or otherwise incapacitated by 10 goons looking to clobber you. Its not gonna happen. I think the other anons right, youre imagining some movie type shit. Show me even one link of somebody doing what youre talking about.

Heres a link showing 4 strongmen getting btfo by 7 average dudes

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SIuJMNmIPLw

>>50401

All these "could 2 Jackie Chans take on Mike Tyson with a baseball bat?" scenarios are silly, especially if all of you aren't lifting like your survival depends on it.

- A moderate amount of training will put way ahead of 95% of humanity

- A reasonably jacked individual, sufficiently aggressive or armed, might hold off a crowd of crackheads…

-…but even a superhuman fighter could also be overcome by losing his footing, or a lone zerg who tackles him and lets the others pile on or clocks him with a pipe from behind

- A well trained fighter against a non-trained weapon is still a long shot

The moral is that nothing's a guarantee, so do what improves your odds. Train til you can take 90% of humanity, recognize going much beyond that still won't overcome numerical odds, so associate with like-minded individuals.

>>50401

It's not really about moving 200 lbs, it's about skill, aggression, talent, perception and fitness/physical prowess in combination.

Movie type shit is unrealistic because the actors themselves are demonstrating how shit they are at fighting. You can see the stuntmen throw punches that would never hit them in the first place, or it's clearly a dance and they're in some movie rhythm where basic fad fighting moves are in. They wait their turn to fight in a 10 vs 1 scenario or some shitty kick is knocking people out and dumb throw is flipping dudes in the air.

I don't know about you but maybe it's in the genes and I've picked up on some insights – my father can get clocked hard and shrug it off. He's been thrown down a porch down a story and hit some wood railing and got all fucked up tumbling down the flight of stairs but went back to work the same day. Some people just aren't a fuckin' sack of fucking potatoes. It's a mindset and sort of like that japanese belief that one's spirit perfects the sword they use – one's spirit perfects the fuckin' weapon that is your body.

>>50525

He got back up and went to work at the end of his lunch break to be more specific. I don't think he was even knocked out, I asked SPECIFICALLY if he was knocked out and he said he laid there groaning for a while but got back up and went back to work.

Honor means to do whatever it takes to win btw

>>50556

[X] DOUBT

>>23949

I’d recommend being proficient in the art of smith and Wesson also.

>>56525

>I give a fuck?

I do not know, do you?

Strongly recommend

A. learn how to force someone from a persons grip, it's useful in a wide variety of situations and it's especially valuable when dealing with people who aren't strictly hostile. I've used it more on friends about to do something foolish or people who aren't sure they want to fight me.

B. condition to take hits, again this is useful in a wide variety of contexts as the hits in reality may come from projectiles, falls, vehicle injuries etc.

Equally important is to learn to tolerate hunger, thirst, being immobile and insects.

Being able to keep your cook when you haven't eaten in days, it's cold, raining or how to remain motionless when mosquitoes are all over you is more likely to save your ass than wu-shin wood breaking- again it's a life skill

C. police detention techniques.

you're going to have to detain a lot of people, either while you search civilians, after neutralizing hostiles, anyone who's going to endanger you by doing something retarded, anyone who's a risk to themselves because of dehydration, drugs or delerium

It's really not as easy as you think

martial arts were originally to teach skills, so as a practical measure both fighters were evenly matched

Now it's a sport- so the same premise remains.

The reality is basically "there are going to be too many of them or they will be bigger than you", "your objective will be to protect yourself and de-escalate- not to injure your opponent" and "you've got to hurt people quickly, use weight and speed"

>>58719

>CIA

>Close quarter fighting for rifle infantry

I wouldn't recommend this for a number of reasons, though this is just me parroting the opinions of other people I know- mostly eskrima practitioners.

There's no mention of breaking fingers, which is one of the fastest and more reliable counters against non-choke holds.

It mentions gouging, but not how to actually do it- you would just end up poking someone in the eye as they turn their head.

Shoulder throws don't work the same on someone shorter than you- you have to be prepared to hoist then slam them.

Similarly some of the other shoulder dislocations won't work if someone is taller than you because they can simply pull their elbow up and out or bear hug you or hit/force you backhanded.

There's also no mention of throwing things, if someone is running towards you throwing something, taking a step forward then square kicking their lower abdomen is a pretty safe tactic.

it's taught more for infantry to use against each other to keep the barracks less gay. "espirit-de-corp" I think they call it.

>bayonet trench charges

what is this, 1984?

That tactic was just to keep men who had no ammunition running into enemy fire and stop defenders running away.

see "espirit -de-corp"

>>23921

You can become "military" proficient with a firearm reletively easy. Never quit practicing, but hand to hand wod take much more work to master, so I would say focus on that with firearms as a close second.

Any tips for fighting outnumbered 10:1 against knife antifa them wearing shields and shooting pellets, rocks and firebombs?

For the moment I am only wearing chest armor, a shield and my fists.

>>59066

Yeah. Either get the fuck out or get better equipment/more people.

22 year practitioner of BJJ here…

An interesting point to note is in regards to SAMBO. So the story goes, the Russians did lots of “tests” to see what the most effective form of H2H combat was and they settled on a system that incorporated many debilitating leg breaking attacks.

Apparently if two combatants encounter each other in the middle of nowhere and a fight ensues, if one combatant makes it so that the other cannot walk away from the scene, that injured combatant will literally just lay there and die.

It’s some sort of psychological thing where the guy will just give up and lay there to die.

>>23921

I can recommend Bujinkan if you want a comprehensive system. It takes years of training to be somewhat effective though.

>>61114

Oh boy. Chile is a shitstorm and you're not fixing that with your fists like a 90's anime. And this is a board of peace so, even if you COULD pull some anime shit I wouldn't encourage you to do so.

>No funs

>10:1

>Police and Justice backs the rioters

>They fake martyrs and play victims

The first two are unlikely to change but if there's on thing autists from taiwanese basket-weaving forums are good at is public opinion. Keep doing the counterpropaganda, but if I were to find myself in a situation like that and was in dire need of having more impact I'd pull the classic fed move of posing as your enemy and trying to turn the public against them. Making an alt account on kikebook or twitter and pretending to be an unhinged bloodthirsty leftist. That sort of stuff.

You shouldn't really do anything yourself, but if you get lucky and media headquarters/journalists were to get damaged/threatened and you could make it look like the antifas were responsible, pundits will shift the narrative since now it's personal for them. While you wait for that to happen you could try getting on the media's good side, but we learned from the past couple of years that no matter how clean your optics, any opposition to the antifa scum will be demonized.

You could also start hanging out at bars where police/military go to and try making some friends. It's unlikely that they enjoy protecting the antifa and might help you out if given the chance. And you can always use the extra info.

>asking if there exists a coherent approach to fight them

You're already doing it. This is COIN shit. The good news is that there is an extensive body of literature on dealing with insurrections. Bad news is that it has all been written by the losing side. Pretty much all losses due to human rights concerns. Paul Aussaresses did win a bunch after Algeria but he was allowed to do whatever he saw fit.

Based on this shitty definition I found on the military wikia, and assuming your government is taking care of the stuff that would be illegal for you to do, you should have most of your bases covered.

>Counter-insurgency is normally conducted as a combination of conventional military operations and other means, such as propaganda, psy-ops, and assassinations

>>61536

>all in the joke category

FTFY

>>24086

These bleed out times are hilarious. We've all seen the plethora of beheading videos and those poor mother fuckers take many minutes to stop desperately gurgling and gasping through their windpipes with more than half their neck cut through.

>>23921

There is always a need to learn hand to hand/martial art combat, even if it's just to get the psyche to do an action that you wouldn't normally do.

But that said, I remember a Takewondo guy I knew being beaten up really hardcore by a drunk guy I also knew, so if you decide to learn some hand to hand stuff make sure they learn you to throw a punch and blocking.

>I've never been in a fight in my life.

most martial arts are good at learning you just that but being in a simulated fight instead with some safety and so on, a real fight is not fun.

Since much of it has to do with either the opponent has fighting experience or not.That is easy to figure out if he blocks correctly or throws a punch correctly. Either way, try and avoid those when you can since they can be quite hurtful for you even when knowing martial arts.

> It seems expensive to learn MMA

Just find a martial art that has good striking so Kickboxing or thaiboxing is good imo, also if you want grappling there is jujitsu which has a nice self-discipline training at the same time.

>I have no idea what the community and atmosphere is like.

Usually relaxing, they see it as training so it's relaxing can be a little bit stressful if there is competition stuff involved, but nothing that is overly stressful.

>>24091

Your knife isn't helping you much, once the fight becomes a scuffle and you lack the muscles and technique to keep it.

>>62631

You sound exactly like those fat retards who love katanas. Listen kid, if you're fat, have no conditioning, and don't know how to fight, you go and fix that instead of coming up with some cope bullshit to avoid putting in the effort and training.

>>43417

>>43497

based. Also bought myself a templar arming sword and a stiletto a few weeks ago. Didn't buy armor though, that's too expensive and unwieldy. Got myself a stabproof vest instead.

>>62631

First rule of knife combat is stab, don't slice.

>>62952

It's a good stabby stabby weapon too. Thin enough to make it in between the ribs no problem. Would drive right through jacket and all.

>>61345

Thanks.

The communists are in full damage control because their side has been shown as the violent side, and now they are signalling the media to tone it down but the hordes are out of the monkey cage. Communists are aiming for a total rewrite of the country, while assisted by the surviving businesses owners, believing that if they submit their cash will not be expropiated. Our president is scared shitless of an international human rights felony that will end in a full freeze of his assets.

The Army is cucked past saving, the Airforce too. I have friends in the Navy (who train at that Rangers base at the Nevada mountains, where they do that cosplay. Even my dad went training there in the 60s). But the problem is if the Human Rights Ngos have a sniff of a hint that they are moving against the hordes they will call a UN sanction of 'torture and human rights violations'.

They routinely jail old 1973 military veterans here from bogus accusations of 'torture' by testimony of a testimony, the charge goes in anyway, then jailed at their 70-80s years, then the 'tortured' gets a lifetime montly payment.

So military frends are reluctant to even move because first they will lose the job, second probably will get the same treatment.

I know it flew under the radar, because this is a south mexican country, but representatives of a socialist party went to the US to stir shit there, as a copy of the happenings here. Giorgio Jackson went to lecture some dems about our demise, to pose as victim of brutal police repression by our olympian snipers that one shot eyes by distance, etc, then greeted NY with the subway fail rebellion of the black dog.

Since the libshit play globally and believe the same crap can be unpacked everywhere with the same results, assume they will do the same shit flinging at your zone. (We even have a fail Anonymous cosplay scene, and kpop bots).

Since this country is like Mexico in terms of relevancy, and the ibs went dark for a while, making a thread from October to now was useless. So I kept archives and old school forum posting. There is one forum with 6500 pages from the beginning of it, for example.

I will be doing some lite basket weaving then.

What I ve been doing is (because the media is controlled, and the streets are dangerous) going by one person that can spread the commie hate to their network. Soys can be reasoned with, only ridiculed. Here is forming a response, but no idea how they will face the bloodshed.

I work in a fish processing plant so I throw boxes of upto 35kg about 40cms above my height (i'm 171).

Besides throwing boxes in different ways to train different muscles and also I try and do calisthenics, what other forms of training can I do that can help me in hand to hand combat situations OR what items can I use for training?

Well… the only positive thing about the chimpout here is that we are now officially blessed by Corona-chan, and the communist-soy-antifas that send their 12 yearl old kids to fight with the police are anti-vaccines, and are saying the Covid outbreak is a lie of the gubimint to stop their peaceful protests.

Meaning, Corona-chan can do hand-to-hand combat too against the libshit dick cutter menace.

>>24075

>my gun got knocked away

By what? Jedi force powers? If something is hitting you with enough force to disarm you it's either:

a) Artillery, duck!

b) Gunfire, duck!

If someone has engaged you in hand-to-hand you're already fucked - mainly because everyone else around you is dead, you're surrounded and you're out of ammunition.

>>63193

Here's a cool item that can help you learn. Money. Use it to sign up at a gym and train. Refer to the flowchart here >>59010 . If you don't want to train weekly, get private lessons whenever your finances aren't tight; you get more bang for your buck and improve faster. My advice is boxing mainly because a strong manlet that works with fish and becomes a boxer is the plot of Hajime no Ippo I'm a sucker for that shit.

>>63205

>>63191

Hell yeah. Press your advantage. Don't let them squirm out of the spotlight. Stay safe friend.

>>63240

>Jewlexa, why do riflemen carry pistols as sidearms?

>>63268

Because you touch yourself at night

>>63240

looks like natural selection to me

>>61114

Okay. Here are my relevant posts:

>>26258

>>47421 I misspelled "squats leads to larger pecs"

>>47428

I would add doing shovel lifts, which is a deadlift with one side weighted instead of both – you lift and lug it around (walk) and move the weight from the side to the back or to the front somewhat. This develops the spine. Also, practice falling and tumbling. You need to practice taking falls and hits to the body. Do a lot of that. It will help develop a better intra-connected body, changing the connective tissues and the way your body holds itself.

Besides that, toughen your knuckles by punching something for 1 min then doing a hot/cold bath for your knuckles with onion juice in it, and then going another minute, then dipping them in hot and then cold water with onion juice in it, and repeat this cycle about 10 or 30x. You can do the same for any body part. Start with something softer like a dirt ground.

Cold showers will help put your body snugly fit together (vacuum seal you), which is exactly what you want when you could be taking a lot of hits or get cut, so do that. Sleep on a hard floor and scrape your shit all over to toughen and thicken the skin (use whatever, a loofa maybe or start with a rag and press hard, move up to a rag with sand and slap the skin, then up to the tough piece of loofa). You want to add a couple mm to your skin and increase the toughness of it. Make sure to toughen areas over arteries especially.

Extreme strength training will do a lot for you. Really high strength, and relatively high volume as well. You want to focus on joint integrity by developing every angle of your strength for each joint. So vertical, horizontal, push, pull, rotations internal and external, bending or stiff armed, linear and non-linear, explosive or slow grind. Focus on the shoulders, arms, then sorta group up everything below into one unit most of the time. You definitely need to work on your neck though. Chewing some sort of mastication gum will help develop the jaw (which pulls and connects to the neck and skull) which is going to prevent a lot of knockouts and supplement the neck training.

Get a big heavy bag of sand or heavy punching bag, 100 lbs let's say, and practice the arm sweep (inside and out). You want to literally move the thing, hitting it quickly and solid enough that you can swing the bag over multiple feet. You want to be able to do the same with a straight punch. Practice the body shot, the upper cut, and the hook too. If you can't hit the thing hard enough to make it nearly hit the ceiling (if it's hanging) or knock it multiple feet (not knock over, but launch it over) from where it was, you're fucked in your hypothetical scenario. Try doing this with the headbutt to make major improvements to the skull, neck , traps, for major defensive gains. Change the angles up. Launch the bag.

Practice your fucking kicks. REALLY launch the bag. One lateral side kick, one front kick, one back kick (donkey kick). The muay thai side kick or whatever it's called is good too if you develop your shins well enough (very different from lateral side kick).

It's all about volume, intensity, recovery. Recovery: hot/cold baths, onion and onion accessories (juice), nutrition (bone broth, quality meats, greens, squash perhaps, spices – black pepper ups nutrient absorption btw). Only every stretch at the end.

Make sure you take care of your mindset. VERY important. The will must be constant and focused. Solid energy. Cheers.

>>63554

I'll dial it back to an 80 lb bag. You're good if you can knock around an 80 lb bag.

>>63554

But it's more important if you can knock a 60 lb bag around with a very quick punch, with a variety of punches. So focus on punching a 60 lb bag to the ceiling with a variety of very quick punches (and non-punches, elbows or arm slams/sweeps) and very quick kicks and snap kicks even. That is MUCH more important for your scenario.

Learn to throw as well. Just get someone who is willing to train with you and grab onto you and try to throw them off from yourself. Make sure they're really trying to take you down or hang on. Throw throw throw. Grapple grapple grapple. If you look into arm wrestling training, you see that there are these specific techniques and specific very short RoM exercises to do to train these certain muscles from certain positions. . . . take a few notes from them (devon larratt has some great vids with juji mufu on this) and figure out what small RoM and specific muscles or positions you could develop to very high strength for maximum utility.

>>23921

Wait, what actually it a 'bogaloo'?

>>63586

its this one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakin%27_2:_Electric_Boogaloo

bunch of memes born out of it, can be used to refer to a party or other manner of exciting event

>>63586

It’s the new jewish Hegelian dialectic for “race war” or “day of the rope.” Only paid shills have ever said it (started on cuckchan, so that shows you how useful it is), so you can point them out extremely easily. It literally means nothing other than as a signal word to show the feds who’s undercover. FUCKING EAT SHIT JIM YOU COCKSUCKING FAGGOT YOU’RE ROUTING YOUR SITE THROUGH BOGON IPS AND MY ISP REFUSES TO SERVE IT 99.9% OF THE TIME. I CAN LITERALLY ONLY POST ONCE EVERY FIVE FUCKING MINUTES, SPAMMING THE REPLY BUTTON AND HOPING THAT IT MAGICALLY BREAKS THROUGH YOU’RE SO FUCKING USELESS AND RETARDED AT BUILDING A GODDAMN WEBSITE.

>>56525

>You've clearly never sparred with a competent striker.

oh shup you trigliot, Ive sparred some MT and often do boxing sparring with solid guys.

If you are a bad striker you DONT try to outstrike him, but TAKE HIM down. that is how wrestlers win over boxers, that is why BJJ is very usefull in street fight but yes it has its risk. Realize that.

>>65247

This is some schizo disinfo. It's a joke and it's stuck around because people here have had a sense of humor since back when users used to frequent 4cuck. If you never frequented 4cuck you're the outsider looking in trying to figure this shit out – hence the ease in which you completely misunderstand shit.

People with a sense of humor tend to get shit done because they can loosen up when they need to. Too much and the movement dissolves. Too little they lock themselves up and get stuck on one thing obsessively. It's a balancing act and complex at that.

>>67091

>oy vey exposing the disinformation IS the disinformation

>oy vey just a joke goy

>you just misunderstand

Feel free to keep exposing yourself with your jewish buzzwords, I guess.

>>67091

Fuck you're retarded. This must be a shill. Stop posting.

>>67791

Yet what I said was factually true. Whether you disagree with the sentiment or not, it's a joke from /v/ or some shit back during or before gamergate.

You're the fucking retard if you don't know this shit.

>>46793

The lesson is to expect the sucker punch and take shit seriously, especially since he might stomp on your head after he does it.

>No learning to fight

You're an idiot. If you meant to say, a bunch of moves and drills with no power aren't going to do shit – I'd mostly agree that it's a bit of a waste of time. It's about physical prowess (big fucking topic there with plenty of knowledge, skill involved that I've looked into quite a bit), reflexes, reaction time, mindset, knowledge of how kinetics/mechanics work and the body works, perception/awareness, and having the thoughts actions habits and character of violence. And being tough as fuck. Some people can really take a beating even to weak/vulnerable areas. Others can't. Often it has to do with thoughts actions habits character/s.

The guy in the webm wasn't taking it seriously, was just a high school kid, and the other kid was quite muscular (probably a football lineman).

Bumping.

>>62952

Slashing the neck and thighs is more effective than stabbing, but your blade might not be sharp enough to effectively slash. Slashing will lead to more blood loss.

>>70423

Nope. DOTR or race war. That’s what whites say. Your buzzword appeared out of nowhere and is clearly jewish in nature.

>>65247

Believe it or not I think it might have started on facebook.

>>60896

Lel. I practiced Sambo for 4 years and can confirm we did practice a lot of straight knee bars and heel hooks. Man heels hooks have got to be the worst.

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>>43229

>>26502

Idk bjj can be useful against an untrained person, but yeah wrestling/judo>bjj

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rnEL3qNey2U&noapp=1

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>>100128

he does plenty of bjj man, he had a bunch of wins by triangle choke in is his early career.