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Also Harold Covington had a movement called The Northwest Territorial Imperative that wanted to advance the interest of WHITES in this way.

See this book: https://archive.org/details/TheBrigade

David Lane's book is called: KD Rebel and can be found here:

http://www.davidlane1488.com/kdpreface.html

As for theoccidentalobserver, Mr. Regnery II has himself written a text that suppports the idea of a state for WHITES. Here is the TOO blog:

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2020/08/30/surviving-the-contemporary-racial-and-white-intra-racial-conflict-anti-millenarian-whites-must-seek-political-separation/

The jew shills are still promoting covingtons trash, hoping the younger generation don't find out about him.

https://noncounterproductive.blogspot.com/search?q=covington

https://nationalvanguard.org/2018/07/death-of-a-con-man/

>>206818

Well Mr. Covington is one of three mentioned thinkers that has pushed this idea.

I also mentioned Mr. David Lane who received prison for life due to his connection to the Order. Actually his solution was also the goal of the Order and Mathews.

Also I mentioned TOO (occidentalobserver).

But many different organizations has pushed this idea.

Regardless, yes "the movement" is full of infiltrators.

It has been speculated that the Base founder Nazzaro is connected and working for the feds. I also find that bisexual Spencer suspicious (Richard).

Actually Mr. Harold Covington died the same day he was meeting Nazzaro for dinner. According to an article in vice magazine nazzaro called people working with Covington and told them something might be wrong when he did not turn up.

And then everyone in the base (actually alqueda translates to the base, and the base BK is an antif bookstore and center in Brooklyn, NYC) gets cought and spied on before doing anything.

It's possible Nazzaro killed him or worked with the feds to have it done…

I'm also WHITE CHRISTIAN.

>>206759

If you depend upon the current rich/current elite, you will fail. ALL of them must be killed first, for something beneficial to white men even begin to be possible.

>>206823

It seems kinda stupid to kill people with different views, rich or pour.

The first objective is to have an ideology that attracts people and is great for people and the like.

The second objective is to inform our people rich or poor or middle class.

The third should be territory.

The North West Pacific idea comes in here I suppose.

>>206825

Of course getting it done peacefully would be the best way I suppose.

>>206849

But look at niggers.

Having them around destroys our society.

Same with arabs.

Multiracialism rapes 30 % of white women.

It causes the murder of the WHITE race by racemixing and anti white WAR propaganda.

It murders many whites.

It takes the places in education from Whites and hence make WHITES poorer.

It is a threat to our health.

It robs us of a connection to our own culture (by propaganda and control of information by anti-whites).

It lies to us in order to take us out.

It drugs up lotsa white people (most drugs sold by non whites, mediacal opiods pushed by racemixed socalled "jews"…).

It rob's whites. The non whites nd racemixed constantly steal everything we do because we are inventive and they are not and their inferiority and hatred is endless.

So an etno state would make these matters less of an issue.

Sure there would still be people who are a bit racemixed around or whatnot and also thieves.

But the education places would not be taken by asians or given to non whites in affermitive action pushed by jews.

We would control our own economy.

Since whites are awesome the economy would be super strong with whites doing great.

We would through policy make sure there is affordable housing for WHITES.

WHITE women and children would be a lot safer.

Drug usage would be a lot less at a minimum due to a society that focus on the wellbeing of whites the development of our culture and greatness and TRUTH in education and anti drug measures (and control over the border).

>>206926

And when WHITES have built military strength, security and economy I think more and more whites will move there.

They will see how great life is with other whites. Which most whites prefer anyways.

And hence the economy and oppurtunities will be SUPER great.

A natural path away from the atomization caused by crime of the others.

You go outside, theres a FUN party someone playing great white music people dance and wear white peoples cloothes and there is white peoples art around and a museum for white art and so on.

Pub's, restaurants with the best of our cuisine.

People jolly and happy and cheerful and happy to get rid of occupation and being able to speak their mind.

And maybe once the territory is stronger and has self rule and strong borders, then it could expand I suppose if that is an interest for people.

Although expanding at a too early stage may be very dangerous.

>>206759

>An ETNO state on current USA territory.

You mean rounding up dissidents in a ghetto, right, fella?

Want to start a nation? Easy. Protect your citizens from THE IRS with force. Full gun rights. Allodial Title property. Etc.

>>206759

Uh huh … and let's say you get this ethno-state. What happens when all your neighbors are liberal queer girls and niggers? You gonna start invading and forcing them out of their own states or will you respect the other states and stay in your own fucking state?

>>206962

Not really.

In fact there was a article on TOO blogg that suggested in effect 70 % of USA territory should be a state mainly for whites and then 30 % multiracial.

The Order also wanted an ETNO STATE.

I assume you may mean two different things.

1. Etno state would be like a ghetto where all dissidents would be. Sure that is a danger. And strategicalle this would have to be avoided, that it is used by anti whites to round up all "racists" and kill em off.

Or you mean that:

2. The non whites would be in the ghetto.

Regardless none of these outcomes are of interest to me, quite the contrary.

>>207367

I mean if you read the articles and suggested litterature you would see what these different thinkers and movements have ha din mind.

I would say none of these thinkers would mind gays as such. Maybe Mr. Covington was more against them but I can't remember.

As far as it goes for subsaharian africans there are not many in the area suggested by David Lane or Mr. Covington. B And there has been a writer at the TOO blog that suggested an etno state that suggested that half africans could live in the etno state for example.

Mr Covington certainly did not want africans or browns to live in the etno state. But the suggested are, the Pacific North West has been suggested by them due to partly it being mainly whites living there.

Actually the books suggested are quite interesting and well written regardless of which political ideas the reader may have…

And the scenarios painted are interesting.

>>206965

Again you are focusing on one out of many thinkers I mentioned.

Or, are you suggesting Mr. David Lane of the ORDER was jewish subversion.

Or the same with the TOO people?

That would be quite a statement.

All the United States is our ethnostate, and we shouldn’t settle for less

>>207934

Sooo, how's your etno state doin. It's hijacked by the browns yellow and blacks, they just killed democracy (voter machines by commie latinos with ownership by the chinese).

50 % of people under 18 are more or less WHITE.

Maybe you should start somewhere and then gradually expand territory, just an idea.

Or maybe your "race-based movement" is doing so great and has so many followers taking back the USA is easy?

What is your time perspective on this taking back the USA? 39 years? Then Whites will be like 35 % of the population under 18 maximum…

plus niggers counting votes, like come onnnn….

And I'm not saying an Etno State is the best solution, I don't live in the states.

And I think for Europe, sending back most africans and arabs is the best solution.

That said I don't mind some east asians but I don't want much more of them either.

And I prefer like Japanese and Chinese to Thai and the like.

But an Etno State has been a solution suggested by many thinkers in the USA and I do think it is an interesting solution.

But there is the issue of lost territory of course and that includes agricultural land, industry, access to the huge USA market atleast for some time. Another issue would be embargos and problems with trade atleast initially. But I mean most of the countries in the world are in effect etno states, like China and India for example. And I am sure countries like Russia would trade with it.

As for Europe, many anti immigration, traditionalist parties have success here. So who knows how the future will look…

The Pacific North West is an interesting territory indeed.

Great because it is easy to defend due to it's landscape and nature and also due to the attitudes in many parts of the region.

Also it would be a great place for industry.

Maybe people could start moving there, create groups that are pr white and work to enhance their ethnical interest.

This could be starting companies, building your own high quality house, new urban areas, or smaller communities that grow organically and so om. People can groe their knowledge and get educated and develop skills or whatever in a region where their kind is not under constant threat from aggressive races such as the negroid one. A safer place for white children.

One could start private schools, kindergarden and so on that are very very pro white, pro creativity, and that keep non whites out.

Later a university for mainly whites can be started. Non whites could be kept out by admission policies and the like (like people have to write an essay and then you just choose the whites because the wrote the "best essays" or whatever).

But even many jews think the USA will end up more etno centric or have a drastically different direction in like 4 or 5 years.

But I guess we'll see. For now, etno centric folks seem to be mainly on forums like this online with no movement really. And most of the "movement" is by infiltrators and it makes no sence and has no popular support.

There is no movement.