545f34 No.203089[Last 50 Posts]
I think most will agree that China's economy has grown to a point were it rivals the United States. One just needs to look at the numbers. China's exports in 2019 were $2.6tn, compared to the US' $2.5tn [1]. China's nominal GDP in 2019 was $14.3tn, which was 67% of the US' $21.4tn [2]. However, when adjusted for purchasing power parity, China's GDP in 2019 was $23.5tn [3]. That is 110% of the US, whose nominal GDP and purchasing power adjusted GDP is the same by definition.
[1] https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/BX.GSR.GNFS.CD?locations=CN-US
[2] https://databank.worldbank.org/data/download/GDP.pdf
[3] https://databank.worldbank.org/data/download/GDP_PPP.pdf
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545f34 No.203090
>>203089
There is a common argument that China's economic growth will stall soon because of unfavourable demographics. Due to the one child policy and generally lowered natality, China's population is rapidly aging [1]. In the near future, the Chinese working age population will start to decrease [3 p6], and the ratio of workers to dependents will worsen. In contrast, America's working age population will increase [3 p2] mainly because of immigration and high natality among immigrants [4]. Therefore, China's economy will stagnate while America's economy will surge ahead.
[1] https://www.indexmundi.com/population-pyramid/china
[2] https://www.indexmundi.com/population-pyramid/united-states
[3] https://www.yardeni.com/pub/globalworkpop.pdf
[4] https://www.statista.com/statistics/494620/us-population-projection-by-race/
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545f34 No.203091
>>203090
This line of reasoning is flawed because it assumes that worker productivity remains constant. It fails to take into account rapidly increased productivity in the Chinese workforce due to education and infrastructure.
The number of engineering and science bachelor degrees issued per year has been increasing rapidly in China [1]. Even when the increase in graduations starts planing out, the number of graduates in the labor force will still keep increasing since it will take 40 years for these graduation numbers to permeate through the labor force. Educated Chinese are returning from abroad more often [2]. In the near future, net outflows will likely completely stop as wages in China rise even further. The quality of Chinese universities is also improving – they are steadily climbing in international rankings [3].
The US is to a large extent dependent on stealing educated workers from abroad. While the US issued 800,000 S&E bachelor degrees in 2014 [1], it issued 345,000 H1-B visas in FY2017 [4]. 83% of H1-B visas were from India and China, streams which could dry up or even reverse as wages rise in these countries. Population growth in the US will to a large extent be due to poorly educated immigrants and their descendants [5].
[1] https://www.aip.org/fyi/2018/rapid-rise-china%E2%80%99s-stem-workforce-charted-national-science-board-report
[2] https://monitor.icef.com/2018/02/increasing-numbers-chinese-graduates-returning-home-overseas/
[3] https://monitor.icef.com/2020/09/china-continues-to-show-its-strength-in-global-rankings/
[4] https://immigrationroad.com/visa/h1b-worker/h1b-visa-statistics.php
[5] https://joebiden.com/immigration/
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17d9f6 No.203092
>>203090
>china will lose the economic turf war because the usa has the power of immigrants on its side
Lol
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545f34 No.203093
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50c5da No.203097
>>203089
>Why China will win
Because soon the USA and Europe will be full of niggers, spics, shitskins.
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902803 No.203101
>>203090
>>203091
Forward this thread to Gordon Chang and Peter Zeihan.
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6960a3 No.203102
>>203089
they're winning because they spread like a disease into western govenrments and suck the host dry like slanted-eye'd kikes.
But this is a pro-CCP board so I expect nothing bat damage control and chink cheer-leading.
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902803 No.203103
>>203102
>they're winning because they spread like a disease into western govenrments
How do they spread like a disease? They'd have to get in first, right? How do they get in? How come the reverse doesn't happen? Must be an internal problem.
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6960a3 No.203104
>>203103
right on queue
So which is flatter? your mother's face or your sister's tit?
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902803 No.203105
>>203104
It's a simple question, though. One that just gets ignored or talked around. Why are they here? Why don't you get rid of them? It's baffling. Why would you export your industrial base? Why would you give tax cuts to the entities that outsourced their production, rather than nationalizing their assets and replacing them with state industries?
All of the behavior just runs counter to what you're saying.
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6960a3 No.203108
>>203105
Your entire point is to blame the host for being infected by a parasite, while regurgitating a shotgun argumentation tactic. Go die from diabetes like the rest of your rice-eating family.
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902803 No.203115
>>203108
Huh? You're not making any sense. The steps to take are extremely clear. They are never taken. At a certain point it becomes a "you" problem.
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e8b962 No.203116
>>203089
China will win what exactly? The United States is at its lowest point in history. We're divided politically, socially, economically, and our military is weak. However, even in this state we're unapproachable. China and Russia could unite against us and still not win a traditional war. In fact, the only way anyone can make a dint in our armor is by running psyop and dividing the American public, which is what we see happening right now. But even that's only as effective as our IC allows. The U.S. remains the dominant super-power in this world and our weaknesses are stronger than the world's combined strengths.
Honestly there should be an IQ test for posting on chans instead of a captcha.
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9cd42b No.203122
>>203116
>China will win what exactly?
Global preeminence
> The United States is at its lowest point in history.
US GDP was at its highest in history in 2019 and the economy will have recovered from the covid crash by 2022.
> our military is weak
How is the US military weak? It might get weaker in the near future, though. The US military is at the precipice of a cliff, as it faces mass retirement of Reagan buildup era ships and aircraft in the 2020s.
> Honestly there should be an IQ test for posting on chans instead of a captcha.
You would probably fail it because you seem to have trouble distinguishing between future and present.
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e8b962 No.203124
>>203122
>Global preeminence
China must take our the United States. Israel has the same goal. As does Russia. That's not happening and won't happen. And our military is using out-dated technology. However, our defense budget is massive so where's all that money going? To black technology serving our shadow military which the public isn't even aware exists. That's why no one will over-take the United States. With one world we could conquer the planet.
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e8b962 No.203125
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9cd42b No.203126
>>203102
>they spread like a disease into western govenrments and suck the host dry
How does China have direct influence over the western governments? Their decisions to export their industry to China were their own and motivated by greed.
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d51642 No.203128
>>203089
So what? Anyone who still believes the US will always be #1 is a delusional idiot. If China wants to run the world, so be it. I really don't care.
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9cd42b No.203130
>>203124
> And our military is using out-dated technology
From the Reagan buildup
> However, our defense budget is massive so where's all that money going? To black technology serving our shadow military which the public isn't even aware exists.
Some of it is money laundering to use taxpayer money for campaign contributions, PACs, "civil society", media, etc. Favored defense contractors get to pocket a big chunk as reward for their discretion and reliability in this matter. Some of it is to keep jobs in key Congressional districts.
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e8b962 No.203131
>>203130
>From the Reagan buildup
I don't care from where it originate it's out-dated which weakens our public military.
>Some of it is money laundering
How much is 'some of it?' 617 billion is the base budget. What % of that goes is laundered as compared to invested in black tech.?
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9cd42b No.203134
>>203131
> I don't care from where it originate it's out-dated which weakens our public military.
There hasn't been much change in military technology since the Reagan days because after the Soviet Union fell there wasn't much funding for it anywhere.
> What % of that goes is laundered
Hard to say, I'd guess 50% is laundering or funded for domestic political purposes. Some likely examples: A-10, JSTARS, CVN-78, LCS, DDG-1000, F-35, Future Combat Systems
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e8b962 No.203135
>>203134
>I'd guess 50% is laundering or funded for domestic political purposes.
Based on what?
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9cd42b No.203139
>>203135
> Based on what?
Based on how bad and wasteful the above listed military programs have been.
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e8b962 No.203142
>>203139
Based in your refusal to acknowledge the bulk of our defense budget is spent on black technology to serve our black military.
>pic related
America's weakness, like giving our public military out-dated technology, is a pubic façade. The public is watching Russia, China, Israel, and others work and scheme against them. They're waking up to the true intentions of Israel and all of America's enemies. When the overton window shifts just a little moar we will completely dominate our enemies, having them fully exposed and without ability to deceive and slither their way back into power.
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902803 No.203143
>>203142
>we have UFOs n sheeit
We can wrap this one up.
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e8b962 No.203144
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1652a9 No.203163
>>203142
This science fiction was always a psyop made to make amerigolems appear much more powerful than they are. In reality, most of their technological advantage came from operation paperclip, and other than some conceptual tech that's truly impressive but not so practical, they are not that far ahead. Most of the black budget probably just gets funneled into private pockets of some Jews. No disclosure? WE ARE MAKING UFO's TO BATTLE SPACE NAZIS GOY! You don't want space nazis to steal your burgers, no?
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e8b962 No.203165
>>203163
What's more likely:
Aliens have the technology to travel millions of light-years to the Earth, and do so, but are too incompetent to keep their technology secret from man who amounts to a overly glorified ape…. or the U.S has been developing black technology since at least the 1950's and that's why our defense budget has always been so massive..? Put that 95 IQ to work and pick one.
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902803 No.203167
>>203163
>they are not that far ahead
In reality, they are far behind.
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07ae50 No.203201
>>203089
>DURRR FAKE CHINK ECONOMIC NUMBER GO UP
>THEREFORE CHINA WIN YAYYYYYYYY
>NUMBER BIG SO CHINK GOOD
>US NUMBER NOT SO BIG SO US NOT SO GOOD
>TRUST THE NUMBERS THAT THE CCP RELEASES
>THEY ARE REAL
Sage and report spam threads.
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8cfc79 No.203209
China and the United States, both need each other. They are each others Yin and Yang.
One is the factory/production country.
the other is the marketing/customer country.
Both the oligarchs for both countries get rich exploiting stupid middle class.
China would fail if USA stops all trade. USA would not fail, but fuck up if China refused to supply cheap labor. There is always other shit hole countries with cheap production, but not with the efficiency of Chinese.
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1652a9 No.203211
>>203165
>pick one
Black budget is mostly just high level corruption where a portion of it goes on blackmailing foreign leaders and other subversive activities. You can't put cocaine, child hookers and assassinations in your budget plan for the Congress, can't you? Also, Israel won't fund itself on it's own you know…
>why our defense budget has always been so massive..?
Horizontal, rather than vertical force projection. Your economy is heavily dependent on it.
>>203209
Also this, two sides of the same shekel etc.
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e8b962 No.203212
>>203211
>doesn't address the argument
>continues to inject unfounded opinion
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1652a9 No.203224
>>203212
What's your argument actually? That the US has some spooky alien-tier technology? Every major country has a black budget, what does the US have to show for all the money that was supposedly funneled into such projects? What sets it apart? Yes, it spread it's influence tremendously by making certain technologies available to the civilian market globally, it has some highly sophisticated weaponry, but it's still far from UFO tier tech, which remains a psyop for both domestic and foreign consumption.
>Unfounded opinion
You must be very oblivious to how the world works
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225fad No.203237
>>203089
Because there's no voting there are no female voters. Wuhan has 9 subway lines and no welfare queens.
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55bd8c No.203247
Reminder that this place has shills shilling a literal commie wetback larping as right wing
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b45af6 No.203265
>>203089
They are not White, so they will always lose.
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e8b962 No.203266
>>203247
Our law enforcement/intelligence community is doing nothing about these subversives. If something isn't done pretty soon we may need to consider an alterative route to their 'retirement.'
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e8b962 No.203268
>>203224
I see Americans and Europeans learning that Zionists and Bolsheviks are not their friends. What I don't see is Israel or Russia or China defeating the United States or Europe. Do you?
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db8710 No.203274
>>203209
The thing is, China is approaching 1950s America in economy and class development. That's why they are building Africa up. Africa will become the China for China. We will be stuck holding our dicks if we don't start bringing manufacturing home or sending it to other dirt poor countries. Letting China in the WTO was the worst decision ever made if they hadn't been allowed they'd still be a total backwater hellhole; as was letting them attend Western Universities, and work for Western Tech countries. Ten years ago they couldn't even build supersonic jet engines. Still, their government is a massive weakness. Once total surveillance starts happening, the first chance those people to get to secure power they may just jump.
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db8710 No.203276
>>203265
Go back to 4chan faggot
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5af356 No.203391
>>203201
>TRUST THE NUMBERS THAT THE CCP RELEASES
China can't fake trade statistics because it can be cross-checked with the data of their trade partners. They can't fake university rankings based on research papers either. Nature Index, which tracks publications in 82 scientific journals, has a list of top 100 rising institutions in 2015-2019. The 1-44 are all Chinese, and most of the list is Chinese.
https://www.natureindex.com/annual-tables/2020/institution/rising
>Sage and report spam threads.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's spam.
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6960a3 No.203405
Being a parasite doesn't make you stronger, it just means you consume and destroy people, hindering real technological advancements. Chinks and Kikes take pride in their parasitic behavior because that's all they could ever amount to, stealing and consuming. They focus on "numbers" over quality of life, and suppression over innovation. They will never produce anything for the world to rejoice them for.
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6960a3 No.203406
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9b7c0d No.203407
>>203405
> Chinks and Kikes take pride in their parasitic behavior because that's all they could ever amount to, stealing and consuming.
If China only steals and consumes, how can they be exporting goods and services equivalent to $2.6tn per year?
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6960a3 No.203411
>>203407
>They focus on "numbers" over quality of life,
>how can they be exporting goods and services equivalent to $2.6tn per year?
chinks really are nothing more than slanted-eyed kikes. Thank you for being an example
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9b7c0d No.203415
>>203411
>They focus on "numbers" over quality of life,
China gets paid $2.6tn each year because foreigners value their goods and services that much. And it's not just quantity, they also sell quality goods.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-06/huawei-equipment-top-notch-says-new-ceo-of-canadian-telco-bce
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9b7c0d No.203416
>>203411
>They focus on "numbers" over quality of life,
How to quantify success and quality of life if not by numbers?
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6960a3 No.203417
>>203415
>Chinese sell quality goods
into the rice cooker you go
>>203416
Having a country where buildings and bridges don't fucking collapse would be a start. Go ask your millionaires why they're fleeing to the US and Europe.
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9b7c0d No.203424
>>203417
> Having a country where buildings and bridges don't fucking collapse would be a start.
At least the Chinese don't have to worry about being the only ones with no quality of life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWCCIQQXfZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVWAx669v4U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqpd5fCLsRI
> Go ask your millionaires why they're fleeing to the US and Europe.
According to this article the reason is
> Many experts say that the wealthy are moving to protect their wealth, their health and their families. With China increasingly cracking down on ill-gotten gains and corruption, many of the politically connected wealthy are looking for safer havens abroad. They are also looking for better environments for their children—with better schools and cleaner air.
Also:
> Some say the capital flight and millionaire migration are normal consequences of rising wealth. Oliver Williams, of WealthInsight, said that the Chinese wealthy have about 13 percent of their wealth overseas—below the global average of 20 percent to 30 percent.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101225781
btw I'm not Chinese
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3b0ba4 No.203425
>>203089
China will become the next US. Jews will turn US into a degenerate playground for their "social" experiments. The only thing I can see collapsing China is an uncontrolled financial collapse, but I don't think they would be stupid enough to let it happen.
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950353 No.203455
>>203089
China are nationalists. Amerimutts are slaves to kikes in europe and israel.
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950353 No.203457
>>203211
the united states defense budget goes directly back to muh greater israel.
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754d91 No.203593
>He said for the 40000000000th time since 1990
Just look at Hong Kong, it was more successful then all of mainland China because they were our allies and that made chinkoids jealous
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c6fb6f No.203604
Ching bing dong long ping dog pong
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5d80f5 No.203672
>>203593
>He said for the 40000000000th time since 1990
Then he would be right for the 40000000000th time. China has been on a steady path to victory since at least 1990.
> Just look at Hong Kong, it was more successful then all of mainland China
Hong Kong's model isn't relevant for mainland China. Hong Kong is a financial services center for the East Asia region. A whole country of 1.4 billion people can't sustain itself on that model.
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b80d49 No.203674
>>203672
>oy vey goyim china will win believe me
Nah.
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ffc608 No.204013
>>203417
>into the rice cooker you go
*quality* rice cooker
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a3916a No.204032
>>203247
Bah its still anything > jews so you are wrong.
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38d441 No.205108
Op needs to look into the chink banking system for a good lol.
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743403 No.208060
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e8b962 No.208062
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50c5da No.208063
>>205108
What's special about chink banking system?
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479648 No.208140
You think you can base a countries power by comparing which Nation has got more jewbucks ? Newsflash if the $ ever devalues
their economy is gonna implode faster than a chink shitting in an elevator.
China is 20-30 % Potemkin/industrial cities with tofucrumb buildings that crumble when you fart. Their people majority don't just live in poverty, they live in a dystopian technocracy where political/religious and other dissidents dissapear.
CCP human rights violations, they're numerous and hardly a surprise as that is the joy of communism comitted by CCP bullies. The world is tired of it all.
Either CCP eat's humplepie today or freedomseeds tomorrow.
Alternatively we bully them back by yeet kune do-ing our business&industry from China towards India or Afrika. Apple is pulling out of China and setting up shop in India already who will follow?
Global demand for "ethical" yet cheap will be good news for the poo's
What the CCP fails to realize is that they need us, we don't need them or their shenanigans for that matter.
They can seethe and suck up or fuck off and die .
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f7a314 No.208147
1. Nobody knows the future
2. China is a massive fraud. It's corrupt and backwards in its practices. It's easy to buy a $100,000 scanner, CAD CAM software (bootleg of course) and scan everything made by Europeans and Americans and then reconstruct it to 1/10,000 of an inch then make something that looks thoroughly modern and new. But it's not. It's crap. They lag dreadfully in materials science and don't seem to car. It's a modern world built out of styrofoam and plaster and Victorian era metallurgy.
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f7a314 No.208149
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490f8b No.209770
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a758ec No.209866
xexDmWDw hKqZR LXCLxLYLK rQF
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>>208062
That's a snapshot of the present. Look at the trend.
> “I suspect that, at best, the Pentagon’s budgets will start flattening out. There’s a reasonable prospect that they could actually decline significantly, depending on what happens” with the broader economy, Gen. Mark Milley said
https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2020/12/02/milley-budget-reality-check-may-impact-foreign-exercises-basing-plans/
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