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>>169903

>I rejected Christianity mainly because of Nietzsche's arguments

Why did you need Nietzsche's arguments? The thing is patently false. It's clearly a parody of the sun as Thomas Paine said. It's a slave religion, which literally was proposed by Rome only a few decades after the 3 slave revolts, as immortalized in Spartacus. So it explains to the slaves to be good slaves so they can go to jew heaven. It's a religion for slaves, to keep them docile and naive and perpetual victims. Now let's move on.

Study the underlying astrology and you'll find much truth. Do not fall for the false dichotomy of "christianity or nothingness". Always they fuck us with the false dichotomies. And the bell curve falls for this shit all day long. In general it's a personal voyage of discovery. There is no "religion" to follow. Any that comes around is a scam every time.

>>169993

>Christianity is only good if you take it to mean literally worship Logos.

And Logos is stolen form Heraclitus, having completely different meaning. Plato openly used to state that myth cannot be logos.

>>169903

West is inheritably corrupt for a reason of believing in myths instead of developing theosophical religious basis for believing in all pervading imperishable God. Its religion is being destroyed by age of reason coming along. There's only fake metaphysics in christianity using myth as very shaky ground, that always falling apart. Every miracle supposedly committed by jesus feels forced by writers and has older inspiration. And everything prophecised already happened by the time "prophecy" was written, from mythical figures alike to jesus (Buddha, Laozi, Krishna, Dionysus, Osiris and so forth) already existing in all cultures, without the need for "false christs" to come when they already existed, to use of "War of the Jews" material in order to fake "coming of son of man" using historical material that already happened as a prophecy.

>New Age Paganism is cryptoatheism

Its not atheism in any shape or form, but one myth cannot replace another. The only reason people "accepted" christianity because myth was convincing, and only after unearthing thousands of correlations with older myths it was possible to find out on what its based. The mystery cult order is based on orphic tradition inserted into judaism by hellenized jews. Majority of old pagan tradition is zodiac/astrology based, and even Plotinus by claiming existence of "visible gods" actually meant planets and stars. Funnily enough even christ was represented by zodiacal light going through milky way as if to represent "visible god" to correlate with works of Plato by people like Justin Martin.

>Atheism is horrible and just leads to nihilism

A person can be devoted to God and still be a nihilist. Idea of righteous and unrighteous can be thrown out of the window if one realizes God never "wrote" any "law" to men, men wrote laws and attributed them to God. Therefore nihilism has nothing to do with with phenomena of deity worship.

>Apart from Christianity, what other spiritual systems are there for me to follow?

There's none. I'd sooner accept that people don't know real God and Orpheus rightfully calls progenitor deity in his myths "secretive". I'd say you won't get better than reading ancient hindu upanishads and deciphering vedic hymns within their context, for their understanding of absolute was based on highly sophisticated theological system of thought, and myth was accounted as just a myth, having only mystical meaning, but not to be taken literally.

If it soothes your heart the phenomena of worship of God itself is the oldest spirituality, even if it was done in plurality of deities, it seemed like a natural thing to do to ancients all over the world, so its the only one worthy of studying, so taoism, majority of schools of buddhism and jainism can be put on hold. Man's search for meaning is a long spiritual way on its own. But if you search for God because you search for some morality, you can forget about it, the order of the world indeed knows no good nor evil, its more complicated and less childish. Intellect follows order way more complicated than this world's mechanical structure, and only philosopher can decipher the way psyche penetrates into things, and what penetrates the psyche. Its all about not becoming an animal and learning to accept what's given.

>>170183

Its all in pdfs provided above, really. Least you want to research on orphism/dionysiac cult separately.

There were many cults like christianity before Roman Empire fell:

Hellenic Orphism which is progenitor of all of them.

Jewish Christianity which is what exploded in popularity among the mob.

Zoroastrian Mithraism which is another attempt to co-opt rome by foreign religion, just in this case it was Persian

Egyptian Serapis and Isis cults also tying hellenic and egyptian cultures together

All of those had similar formulae for initiation purposes, but different structure under different fundamental religious worship, devoted to a single figure.

>>170144

inserting "muh" is an unbelievably pathetic form of argument.

Yes, it's absolutely true. Christ represents the sun. And that's not a bad thing. Mary represents the ocean, and the dawn. He name is Miryam, which is Mir Yom. Yom meaning Day like in "yom kippur", and Mir meaning mother. Mary means mother of the day. This is like the ocean, which gives birth to the sun each day. This is why we have words like maritime and marine. Because Mary is ocean and mother and dawn.

It didn't literally happen. Please awaken.

>>169903

>I researched a bit about esoteric racism

Is that actually a thing? Sounds like some kike shit

>>169903

>Many people here call Christianity a kike religion

I know. Ignore them.

>>170372

>Where does this leave me? This feels awful I genuinely thought Jesus was real

The Spirit behind those religions is real, but the mythical figure is not. For there's enough of them, but practice of devotion seems to be the same. There's all sorts of devotional manifestations in religious market. But real of the real remains the same, to meditate, as in intellectually grasp in spiritual exercise, and not stop thinking like buddhist, on superior Intelligence who you both is and isn't, who's unlike you is unlimited. The Brahman of upanishads and The One of Plotinus are closer to real, than intermediary replacements for all pervading Consciousness, not even everyone calls Logos a God. So feel free to not stop at acceptable, we don't find answers, we just stop asking questions.

>>170490

>Fallen Angels

If there are no good jews there are no good jewish myths.

We can proudly say that moses didn't exist, that jews were never slaves of egyptians and that Exodus never happened, aside of expulsion of hyksos, and hate of jews to other civilizations. What is Lucifer that Isaiah speaks of, as of fallen, if not anti-babylonian propaganda it is directed to? So what of their new myth, the "holocaust" of six million jews, if not continuation of creating a myth damning some goyim? Exodus never happened, Holocaust never happened, then "angels" never fell either, nor were anything more than explanation given to stars and planets, to replace other nations belief in those being gods. Basis of your world view is a jewish fairy tale, just like some believe that nazis somehow indeed put six million into gas chambers and cremated all of them. In fact roman scribes called jesus lucifer exactly to mock jews when creating myth for their subjugation.

>>170637

There are so many answers to your question that you invite all of them. Ultimately its about this little fact that this present living condition in realm of generation is not what's important, nor in any shape or form benefit your own or its own material gain, providing only little sense to what's not important after life is extinguished. Religion indeed as establishment is used by world governments to incline people to empathy and morals through puppet shows of actors and stories, treating even adults like mere babes. But its not the goal of enlightened mind that ends up wanting to score higher. Highest causes, unachievable in their understanding, become the goal of man wanting such paradigm in his life. When not even material sciences bring yielding satisfaction, materialist just replaces that feeling with gained material goods. Its a mystic heathen wine of spiritual hedonism of abstract belonging to what you try to comprehend your whole life through works of imagination and contemplation, that are shared within you with someone else, at best condition seeing virtue in subduing yourself to Highest Will as an ultimate bliss. And viewing such relationship as eternal, not limited by life. People are possessed in this mania caused by desire, and it was main stirrer of human intellectual progress, as well as its most phenomenal limiter. Its part of human nature to such extend, that even irreligious people find themselves compensating those feelings with material gain or fascination of public figures and celebrities as modern heroes and gods, as well as dwelling in fandom of fiction. Such feelings can easily be exploited, hence what was happening with them. Religions die and replace one another as guiding myths for time and place. Ideas remain.

>I feel that behaving like a tribal person 2000 years ago is larping.

>I researched a bit about esoteric racism as well, all about the Hyperborean theories, it seems fake to me.

you are so fucking retarded holy shit

and why are you treating religion like it's a buffet, spirituality isn't about picking and choosing, you should feel *drawn* to your spiritual beliefs. are you actually a spiritual person or do you just wanna be in a moral gang? cos you complain about 'new age paganism' as if the opinions of retarded millenials and zoomers should have any kind of effect on your own beliefs. if you dismiss spiritual beliefs just because modern institutions under that title are full of brainlets, i don't think you understand the purpose of spirituality.

religion should either be a personal journey, or a founding and unifying myth for a group/movement/nation etc.

outside of that religion has no political-material-power utility.

for the latter, try pic and link related

https://prometheism.com/f/the-prometheist-manifesto

>>171018

>Reza Jorjani

Absolutely based

>>170549

Food for thought:

Khazarian bootleg fairytales do not represent original Judaism, which is linked to the Scythians, partially through the similarities between the Royal Scythians, Saka tribe (to whom Gautama Buddha was born) and tribe of Judah. The Persians called the Saka and Scythians by the same name. Lion symbology, lawmakers, special connection to god, not to mention the first legendary Scythian King Maues, who, among other things, conquered India (from the Northwest). The Scythians were taught 3 things from a young age: to ride a horse, shoot a bow, and always speak the Truth. They valued glory and combat, drinking from the skulls of their enemies, with a healthy disdain for material things. They are like the antithesis to niggers, Herodotus describing them as beautiful, red-haired (other descriptions attribute blonde as well) and "tall as date palms".

lmao enjoy hell you esoteric shallow political-personality faggots, this world is gonna look like so much better of an alternative to you when youre burning forever.

>>171319

>Asha-Logos faggot shitting the thread

Why don't you read Herodotus and historical records directly instead of consuming history from some larping faggot that tries to look cool and knowledgable while pulling shit straight out his ass for the sake white nationalism and labelling it as "history". He then proceeds onto citing very specific parts of the actual thing and taking things out of context in order to confirm his bias. You people are the white equivalent of niggers (wiggers) saying utterly braindead stuff about themselves such as them being magicians or coming from the sun itself or some other shit in hopes of boosting their cultural state (Which we do not need unlike niggers). Just kill yourself for fuck sake. Probably doesn't even have much to look for if you're making fake weird half supposedly esoteric pseudo-history videos anyways. He is a disgrace to the two words he has taken as his channel's name. Asha and Logos for he speaks neither of those.

And no they were not some sort of ultra civilized (and yet civilization hating) ubermensch genius red-haired mysterious magical lost race that formed a huge empire lost to time. Fucking hell might as well just start reading Ashtar Sheran for history you fucking imbecile.

Sakas were typical Iranic steppeniggers who couldn't form a centralized government therefore civilization. And probably other Iranians wouldn't've been able to do either if Persians had not learned the basics of becoming a civilization from the Elamites. Who unlike them were an agricultural society instead of a pastoral migrating one.

>to ride a horse, shoot a bow, and always speak the Truth

That's a purely Iranic thing. Specifically Persian.

I mean yeah Sakas (Different from Scythia. Scythia was usually a region described by Iranians and Greeks in which tens of different tribes lived and spoke different languages that ranged from Balto-Slavic to Iranic on a spectrum.) were Iranic but in the context, it was specifically said only about Persians. Scythians were the typical steppeniggers and a Scythian Saka who lived in Iran, Afghanistan or Kazakhstan (or somewhere close) would be completely different than a "Scythian" (the word means little if there is no mention of the name a specific tribe which Iranians always included as far as I've studied) who lived close to the Baltic sea or China. As expected. They most definitely did not see themselves from the same tribe or probably related even.

[Gautama Siddhartha] Buddha (IF he was a historical person and not a cultural or religious story which people later attached history to it) being of Saka (or other Iranic related people) origin, however, is a real possibility. Because of the ideology being very close to ancient Iranic philosophies than the Hindu beliefs of the time. Especially Theravada Buddhism which also is the oldest Buddhist sect. Not to mention the Aryan/Iranian invasion of Northern India.

The Scythian Jewish relation however as I understand purely stems from the fact that Akkadians mentioned Ishukuzai or something similar who some people believe was their way of calling Sakas. It appears that Ashkenazi kikes were Iranian converts from the time of Cyrus the great and Xerxes, who immigrated to Eastern Anatolia below the black sea and created a noticeably influential society which had relations (Most probably trading) with the local civilizations such as the Akkadians who mention them a couple of times. The name itself is probably a Persian word coming from Ashkan which means "[Those who are of the lineage of] Ashk" Greek equivalent of which is Arsaces (Parthian Iranians). There are areas in eastern Turkey still named Ishkenaz which is where they settled. It is to be noted that Saka and Ashkan/Arsacid, however, are related Iranic peoples. Therefore the theory.

More recently (and historically inaccurately) the word is mostly used to describe Jews who are obviously of a non-Semitic race since Jews decided to change their mythology to add Jews who were of other race and were not similar. From Armenia to Europe. Blonde, Orange hair, Brown hair. Any race. A lot of non Abrahamic to Abrahamic religion convertee people started calling themselves Ashkenazi out of the blue because the idea of being God's chosen while you are not of Jewish descent was very attractive to these people. With no relation to each other. also Khazar =/= Ashkenazi although in early 20th century there were theories in vain efforts of proving themselves as a people who actually have roots and history.

>>169903

You know, i actually found a solution to existential/spiritual problem that lies buried below cultural stagnation and decadence. The first problem, the existential crisis, is easy to fix, God can be proven by remaining unproven in incorporeal formless existence, outside of material rules, and mind mystified by unaccountable evidence of all pervading concept of higher Intellect, easily can rewire itself to argue about God with negative reason, and not blind faith. Perception of identity of God is varied, and it is affected by invoked names.

But the cultural stagnation of European spirituality will remain the same, no matter what character its ascribes itself to. You aren't going to be founder of new philosophical system, nor claim new kind of characters for people to ascribe what's absolute to. Hindu spirituality, as an example, for all the glory of upanishads, is a marketplace of spiritual ideas leading to total chaos of theological approaches with no final goal or united identity, all the gurus claiming themselves being gods on earth behave like a beggar prostitute to get one's body sold to new cash cow, and so do many new age christian heresy salesmen.

In order not to fall into all divided spiritual marketplace of systems and theologies, white race needs one single religion, controlled by higher dominant power. That control over spirituality was necessary to provide two things to people:

1. Conviction in beliefs while letting them to attune to various personalities in form of Saints or Angels or Virgin Mary as Co-Redemptrix. This assured loyalty to Church and stability of personal way of life of each faithful individual in a world with no certainty of Logos, because true nature of Logos is not describable. While keeping varied approach to Logos in many archetypes like Archangels with spears killing demons, devoted virgins and Military Saints, not just Jesus.

2. Positive attitude about religion that everyone participates in as nations heritage, keeping people together against common foes and uniting for common beliefs. That keeps nation producing people able to cling to their own because of similarity in values.

Instead of invoking negative idea around similarity of older myths of Mesopotamia, Greece and Egypt to Bible, embrace it as positive, that ancient ways are in fact continuing to exist just in new names ascribed to them. Myth doesn't really cancel out Bible, nor old myth can really replace it. Myth is not Logos, and the Church only strengthened during Renaissance. For what our people died, suffered and were sweating over in pools of blood and guilt is unity of Europe under singular belief, instead of pagan chaos of multitude of myths that would cause stagnation similar to hindus. That idea of total religious control is absolutely white idea, which with needed patchwork from Byzantium to remove some jewishness of it made it more synthesizing with european masses. Or for almost 2000 years all our ancestors toiled for nothing, embracing paganism or protestantism is only helping the jew to destroy both Catholic and Orthodox churches as a barrier for domination over white mind, for they go full on critical theory and destruction of families. Even for Lenin's biggest obstacle were Christians, so he just went on a murder spree. And degradive actions of new pope remind me why inquisition was necessary.

That mentioned if one loses faith one still needs to support the Church, especially if one completely loses faith in Christ and "doesn't care" anymore what to believe in, for Church is a fundamental definition of justice and led white people to intellectual progress, by keeping them in shed of certainty in the divinity of their heritage. Islam never let go of that. They openly take over temples like Hagia Sophia on their soil, burn churches in France and invoke Allah on streets before slicing someone's head off, and you let it happen because you think its not your ancestry that's being raped, yet it is the biggest uniting ancestry that all our people ever held together.

>>169903

I don't fully understand it all myself, but this helped me. I hope it can help you too.

>>182923

>Because everyone worships the stupid book

>It's literally Sauron's ring, the one idol to rule them all.

Yes and? Embrace it. Perfect heresy is when you accept most popular heresy and use it as community drive. There's no more antisemitic religion than christianity. Nor there will ever be more religion that white race ever worked diligently for.

What, it prophesies about Israel and Sinai? Then its ours by right. Israel is ours. We can conquer it any time.

People take pity for the jews because they think they are related to saintly people in scriptures? Remind them same scripters call them synagogue of satan. Use this satan scapegoat like people always did. Take a cross like a man.

>>181909

Reincarnation was always a most basic "spook" for the weak minded. Gnostics base their reincarnation on Plato's Timaeus, and it had bullshit like:

>According to our likely account, all male-born humans who lived lives of cowardice or injustice were reborn in the second generation as women.

>The fourth kind of animal, the kind that lives in water, came from those men who were without question the most stupid and ignorant of all. The gods who brought about their transformation concluded that these no longer deserved to breathe pure air, because their souls were tainted with transgressions of every sort.

Upanishadic Hindu reincarnation initially was:

>‘But those who do not know these two paths become insects that crawl or fly, or else snakes.’

Don't want to become a cockroach or fish, or even dare i say a woman, become a philosopher. There isn't an equal amount of constantly increasing humans living on the planet to warrant reincarnation, the population is constantly expanding and people merely remember thoughts of their ancestors at most through their genetic memory. Actually all you are, your soul, is a memory, if memory is taken away you're as good as dead.

Evola from Yoga tantrique on this:

>Among many popular beliefs of Hinduism, we find an explanation based on the idea of reincarnation, which should be accepted with due caution. It is claimed that samskaras, which are the elements constituting a finite being endowed with body, mind, habitual tendencies, and experience, are the effects and the consequence of previous existences, which are in turn determined by karma. This does not really solve the problem but merely recasts it in different terms. If in order to explain the samskaras that are at work in the present existence we have to go back to activities exercised in a previous life, the problem merely compounds. In order to explain why those activities took place, we would have to go back, even further, to a previous life, and then to the one before that, and so on, ad infinitum. It is my contention that eventually the series must stop and be explained in terms of an original act of self determination. What is this act all about? That is an open question. The answer cannot be located in time and in space, since, in these categories, there is no continuity between the various manifestations of a single conscience, or between the multiple existences, as the reincarnation myth upholds. Continuity is to be found only in the subtle, vital (pranic) plane, and in the power of life, which is neither dependent on a single body nor exhausted in it. In a higher degree, it exists in the level of buddhi-tattva, the "individuating individual," whose nature consists in shaping reality. One must think that at the highest level of the impure tattvas, an inference takes place in the following terms: pure self-determination, which is a "slice" of higher planes, proceeds from the sphere of pure tattvas and from the causal body, which then translates itself into the act of buddhi. There is no explanation for this determination, since it takes place in a domain where the supreme reason for acting resides with act itself, where causes are not determined by other causes, and where forms are manifested as stages of what has been called Shakti's "play," Vila. In these higher planes of existence (prajina) there are no antecedent causes and not even samskaras. Samskaras are eventually picked up at a later stage, as a result of the election, coalescence, and appropriation following the merging with the samsaric current. This current includes predetermined forms and various legacies (whether biological or pranic), which refer to previous elements, whether connected or not. In this sense, samskaras actually exist in the subtle body in which the causal body is manifested. They are also responsible for imparting direction both to manas's selective action, through its organs, and to the life that supports, nourishes, and shapes the physical form. Somehow the ancient notions of "demon" and "genie" may be reduced to the body of life informed by a special group of samskaras, which, through buddhi, brings to life the samsaric image of the unmovable Shiva. Therefore, samskaras should not be confused with the real, deeper nucleus of one's personality, which from the level of buddhi on is found outside the conditions for which previous existences took place. This contributes to demythologizing the popular belief in reincarnation, which is not part of esoteric teachings, regardless of what some may think.

>“Metaphysically, the doctrine of reincarnation is without consistence. It is simply a way of indicating the necessity for a privileged and natural qualification.” (J. Evola, Le Yoga tantrique, p. 110.) It is an attempt to explain the basic injustice of why some men are born vigorous, handsome, intelligent and rich, and others, sick, deformed, stupid and poor.

>>183281

>crusading against every pagan and heretical sect with holy zeal

Were you fight Christianity in a long time you'll face two things in government structure, its the fact you'll be putting millions of people into existential crisis in opposition to your ideology, and that no matter what kind of new religious ideology you'll bring you will be denying historical suffering of every crusader, inquisitor and religious zealot too. Inquisition did nothing wrong. Its especially was fun in spain which hated the most, but they wonderfully used christianity as a tool to remove both jews and muslims. They invented "Statutes of Purity of Blood" - Limpieza de sangre. Even gone as far as to check if people drink alcohol and eat pork, and if they don't they are suspects for heresy (false converts, secretly practicing their former religion as Crypto-Jews or Crypto-Muslims). In fact inquisition could be great inspiration of how to remove foreign elements from your country right.

I mean really, "synagogue of Satan" from Revelation‎ 2:‎9 is a powerful slogan for all endeavors against the jews. Even denying jews their own jewry. Look at us, we're the new jews now, church is new israel, and jewish religion is technically spiritually dead, worshiping their numerology of kabbalah, forgetting the spirit behind it. They are atheists who deny personality of God in Jesus, grace of Mary and kingdom of His Saints.

Now i understand criticism from ancient perspective, i am leaning to Cathar, Templar and Gnostic apologism too. This may all have been established by powerful necromantic magic out of egypt and cult of Osiris, and that's not something to reveal in front of fellow inquisitor like templars did, or its based on greek orphic mysteries invoking Dionysus as source of spiritual strength, but regardless it forever broke jewish spiritual chain, and we benefit in unity of white people under single religion because of it. At its core against historians and literalists, Christ was known as a Word that becomes flesh from belief, for its in fact elder God renamed. For a single cause to follow is better than chaos of diverse pagan myths. Its a conjoined teaching that represents totality of mystical gnosis on most important things in everything incorporeal to preserve the north and europe. And if we were to destroy it, we would be in disarray and easy victims for all other inferior spiritualities that do not discern between what's right order and don't lead to progress. Keep true spirituality secret, for mysteries abhor touch of sinners, but europe must stay catholic to promote higher values and stance in heavens.

>>183307

>Animistic/Polytheistic Culture that was decaying

Well, it kind of went along with Zechariah most perfectly:

>Zechariah 1:15 And I am very sore displeased with the heathen that are at ease: for I was but a little displeased, and they helped forward the affliction.

They always wanted to share their religion with heathens:

>Zechariah 8:22-23 Yea, many people and strong nations shall come to seek the Lord of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before the Lord. Thus saith the Lord of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.

For their sense of justice/morality was at peak at times of their prophets. Modern jew rarely even reads prophets unless he wants to grab some numerals from it, hence why its 5 books of moses that are holy torah, but not the rest of tanakh. For torah preconfigures jewish cruelty and scrutiny, which is criticized rightfully in Matthew from perspective of hardness of jewish hearts:

>Matthew‎ 19:‎8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

That's why majority of Christ's messages were about deconstructing/fixing the law.

Later orthodox jews focused to make Talmud to focus more on following laws to the core, with hundreds of pages dedicated to what to do or not do on Sabbat, and mystic jews made Zohar to both steal already developed christian gematria and insert some occult concepts into every word spoken in hebrew bible without paying attention to the core message of it. Some christians were baited to follow kabbalistic thought and that's a pity, but at the same time it revealed some sumerian numeral correlations.

>All the famous white nationalists are not Christian for that reason. Most are pagan-Hindu.

And what Hinduism brought to India? What we know poos for? For shitting streets, worship of toilets (because toilets look like yoni/vaginas of their goddess idols), bathing in dirt and smearing in ashes, for vegetarianism, for sex rituals, for human sacrifice in 21 century, for inventing drinking of semen with menstrual blood, for cocktails with cow dung, for tolerance with moslems and for thinking doing all of that makes them gods in flesh. That religion never really went outside of India, for its their national thought. How come a white nationalist enjoys ideas of hindus?

If anything i learned about mysticism of emptyness/nirvana/brahman, is that just by knowing the imperishable doesn't mean you can control it from mere knowing. Even if you had all knowledge in the world it would not help you if you're blocked by second metaphysical reality after departing of soul instead of joining with infinite for experiencing deep sleep. If Ereshkigal exists, you'll be fancying yourself in underworld akin to Hades full of unsatisfying cravings, unable to fulfill any of them. Which is the basis of purgatory and labyrinth of egyptian duat in which "there are many partings of the road, and windings" from Plato's Phaedo.

>>183309

>I am personally Greek and I admire the political system of Byzantium.

Byzantium invented most of the Orthodox Christendom based on how much they themselves knew of Egyptian tradition. That of course included transformation of Mary into Isis (for cult of Isis was known for centuries to go outside Egypt into Hellenic world).

Royal instructions to Khety III (2130-2040 BCE) state:

>The soul comes to the place it knows, and it will not overstep the ways of the past; no magic can oppose it, and it will reach those who give it water.

>Do not put your trust in length of years, for some regard a lifetime, as an hour. A person survives after death, and past deeds are laid before the person in a heap.

Nothing really have changed since then. Even negative confessions of Ma`at from 1250 BCE are comparable to Christ's instruction at beginning of Matthew gospel. If we would had been in complete darkness, we wouldn't had most basic of warnings.

That especially concerns stuff like Matthew 5:22

>But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Or Matthew‎ 7:‎1-2

>Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

For in Papyrus of Ani its

>I have not been angry without just cause

>I have not acted (or judged) with undue haste

>I have never raised my voice (spoken arrogantly, or in anger)

All of this kind of confirm Egyptian roots of Christianity, but also approve its main message against time. For jewish laws did not contain what Egyptians thought to look after in their own laws, and so Jesus either taught or learned from Egypt higher causes used them against the jews whose Canaan/Hyksos creed was in between Sumerian/Egyptian regional beliefs. For the "law" that Jesus really implied to not disappear, is not really the Hammurabi/Moses one.

There's also big deal with bird bestowing a sign of having God as ones own daimon/spirit in egyptian magical tradition, who Plotinus also apparently had.

In late antiquity certain account stated Iamblichus was worried that ways established by the Egyptians whose system he thought as basis for all religion would disappear because of rise of christianity, but it wasn't really a case for worry since christianity reprogrammed itself back into egyptian system, and was technically always in its veins since it was just a cult of initiates.

Forgot to post this one, accidentally posted laws of Ma`at twice.

This is from Hermetic Magic The Postmodern Papyrus of Abaris and i recommend to compare it to similar moment in life of plotinus. >>183386

>>183381

Christianity may not be perfect but its more convincing than any pagan myth. Once old ways are destroyed, nobody would worship old gods anymore, for new history was established for the savage north, that wasn't even civilized before christianity. Kings and queens in establishing new religion got their eternal fame. Popes, scribes, painters and all saintly people forever immortalized in memory that holds more value for whites than pagan deities. Constantine, King Olaf, Vladimir the Great, Clovis I and others did nothing wrong and advanced their civilizations through religious unity out of pagan chaos. Paganism only leads to strife, that isn't going to be appreciated by majority of whites and rich religious history since conversion of entire western world.

All you'll achieve by promoting paganism is show yourself being a clown to people whose families are convinced in established religion, and old myth cannot replace new one. Especially knowing how well bound it is in the western world. In a way Christianity rivals jews in concept of "chosen people", jewry and islam are heresy and it depends on how well you'll use its metaphorical value systems for propaganda, since its destruction will only lead to benefit of the jews.

That said ecumenism with the kikes is the worst thing that happened to it, and its slowly rotting from the inside, so Christianity is only in need of reconfirming of its status as conquering religion, and not submissive pacifism that gives itself up for being torn down.

>>183518

Gauls, Celts, Slavs and Nordics were most certainly savages prior to adapting to new religion. All the tribes of north. Slavs didn't even knew how to write. Vikings were raiding everyone like bunch of looting niggers. Celts were head hunting and pridefully displayed severed heads like muslims:

>Diodorus Siculus says of the practice of decapitating the enemy:

>They cut off the heads of enemies slain in battle and attach them to the necks of their horses. The blood-stained spoils they hand over to their attendants and carry off as booty, while striking up a paean and singing a song of victory; and they nail up these first fruits upon their houses, just as do those who lay low wild animals in certain kinds of hunting. They embalm in cedar oil the heads of the most distinguished enemies, and preserve them carefully in a chest, and display them with pride to strangers, saying that for this head one of their ancestors, or his father, or the man himself, refused the offer of a large sum of money. They say that some of them boast that they refused the weight of the head in gold; thus displaying what is only a barbarous kind of magnanimity, for it is not a sign of nobility to refrain from selling the proofs of one’s valour. It is rather true that it is bestial to continue one’s hostility against a slain fellow man.

And Britons:

>Buduica led her army against the Romans; for these chanced to be without a leader, inasmuch as Paulinus, their commander, had gone on an expedition to Mona, an island near Britain. This enabled her to sack and plunder two Roman cities, and, as I have said, to wreak indescribable slaughter. Those who were taken captive by the Britons were subjected to every known form of outrage. The worst and most bestial atrocity committed by their captors was the following. They hung up naked the noblest and most distinguished women and then cut off their breasts and sewed them to their mouths, in order to make the victims appear to be eating them; afterwards they impaled the women on sharp skewers run lengthwise through the entire body. All this they did to the accompaniment of sacrifices, banquets, and wanton behaviour, not only in all their other sacred places, but particularly in the grove of Andate. This was their name for Victory, and they regarded her with most exceptional reverence (Cassius Dio, Book LXII).

>>183531

>I find it hard to believe they were black haired arab looking people

They were not as white as gauls and celts, judging from what i read:

>The Gauls are tall in stature and their flesh is very moist and white, while their hair is not only naturally blond, but they also use artificial means to increase this natural quality of colour. For they continually wash their hair with lime-wash and draw it back from the forehead to the crown and to the nape of the neck, with the result that their appearance resembles that of Satyrs or of Pans, for the hair is so thickened by this treatment that it differs in no way from a horse’s mane (8). ( Tierney, 24g)

They were complaining barbarians were too fucking white:

>In the Irish tales the aristocracy is continually described as having fair hair, oval faces and light skin. Strabo speaks of the ‘very moist and white’ flesh of the Gauls—presumably in contrast to the dark skins of the Mediterranean peoples—and their tall stature. Men, alike with women, wore their hair long, and there are vivid descriptions in the early tales of the hair of the various heroes. The importance to the Celts of fine hair is everywhere stressed. In the epic tale, the Táin Bó Cúalnge, for example, we are told that one of the bands of warriors which came to support the queen, Medb, against the Ulaidh (Ulstermen) ‘had flowing hair, fair-yellow golden streaming manes’, supporting the Classical writers’ statements that the hair of the Celts was long and yellow.

I mean the reason we even thought it was possible to uplift a nigger as civilization, is because of this historical moment of uplifting savagery of europeans themselves.

>>183533

Nah, my race did exactly what's done to it today on the streets in this day and age.

>>183554

>the first to theorize the holy trinity (Plotinus) who st Augustus plagiarized

Way to ruin your post, Plotinus lived in time when he already got into heated arguments with gnostics. Even his inspiration was Pythagoras and Capitoline Triad of Jupiter, Juno and Minerva, foundation to temple of which was made by Tarquinius Superbus, that started as The Minor Capitoline Triad (Pre-Capitoline triad) as Jupiter, Mars, and Quirinus.

And also Hecate, tripartite goddess worshiped by Greeks and Chaldeans (on who three Marys are based most probably, and also three Fate Goddesses).

Trinity was actually a necessity of founding a religion in Rome at all. There was a heated debate about nature of older pagan trinity of rome and new one, about which St. Augustine specifically wrote:

>Drawing on Varro, St. Augustine (De Civ. D. 4.23, 29) preserves the tradition that three deities refused to be ousted: Terminus, Juventas, and Mars.

That's because christianity was founded by aryans and not by jews, its a synergizing religion of older pagan rites only in style how jews did it with their own canaan gods. Jews don't worship trinity, they don't have this indo-aryan sacred space formula which is repeated by Hindus as Brahma-Shiva-Vishnu. Priest-King, Warrior and Social/Goods Producer principle, or Creator-Destroyer-Preserver. Which is also repeated in Norse records as Odin (priest-king), Thor (warrior) and Freyja (social principle) like on this tapestry.

Its was mostly formula representing classes of society as archetypal Gods, for who usually a singular temple is built.

>>183568

https://www.bitchute.com/video/esdk0vXlYhqo

Eh, how I view it is that the Sky Father and Earth Mother - think Adam and Eve as gods - created whites on the coast of the Chad Lake in Africa. Which is why there's white blood mysteriously in some of the pure blacks in Chad. These whites migrated north, to whats considered the holy land, Israel. They created cities, but their hubris and degeneracy lead to the Earth Mother to weep, making the earth flood. Thee Sky Father lead few to the Caucus mountains, where modern-day Indo-Europeans began.

It's the duty of all white men to carry on their linage, as their Y chromosome is a holy gift from the Sky Father. Anything that ensures the survival of their blood is something that is good.

>>183602

Anon, short answer - lurk about fertile crescent civilizations, we aren't from Africa, there's a reason why Assyriologists are so respectable among historians.

Everyone dwelt around Mesopotamia at 10k BC. Niggers decided to fuck off first, then egyptians followed. At some point future brits started to migrate too. The rest only started to migrate only at force consequences, probably flood.

Also despite the image, if flood ever happened, Mediterranean sea probably didn't looked like that 10k bc.

>>183757

What, you're anti-christian and don't translate BCE as "Before Christ Era"? Some people here are full of their own autism and its sometimes a waste of time explaining anything.

>>183782

B.C.E and C.E are jewish terms because kikes can't handle anything whatsoever that mentions Jesus or Christianity, Christianity naturally causes jews to recoil in terror. A.D and B.C are perfectly fine and need no redefining at all

>>183803

Dating from Christ's birth was invented by a random Scythian monk. And the numbering itself still haven't changed, even though the reason for inventing counting "since the incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ" was to replace Diocletian years, as part of destruction of previous culture as well, to erase memory of "tyrant who persecuted Christians", Roman Emperor Diocletian who instigated the last major persecution against Christians. Romans themselves used Ab urbe condita (AUC), from foundation of Rome.

Diocletian era was symbolized by many iconic martyrs who are heavily engraved in public memory (like Saint Sebastian and Agnes). But the reality of change of years was to emphasize domination of Christianity. Because later people like Emperor Julian were killed by vengeful Christians instead (that saying they are better role model than Jesus).

>>183868

Nietzsche is a huge faggot and probably was a jew himself

>>183887

It doesn't matter a single bit what the history is, it's been used since as long as western civilization has dominated Europe and it will remain forever and ever no matter how much it upsets kikes and it should be used as it makes jews upset and that's a good thing

>>184011

>>184012

In all honesty religion is racial culture formed by community of convinced people. Even christianities and its saints are different from country to country. And in time one proves himself that even a christian who never goes to church is more convincing to a crowd than a pagan who does all the ancient rites. Its just to give you perspective of how bad contemporary spiritualities have it. And any form of satanism is black PR of christianity to give other guys with little intelligence that see satanism in contemporary world reason to believe in the devil and trust in bible, repulsion towards religion through being baited by fringe beliefs, for that's how a scapegoat works in dualistic religions.

Usually if people are desperate for contemporary spirituality then that means civilization is at dying state if no one feels secure in beliefs of their own people, especially when they no longer trust each other in diverse society lacking common goal. For people were not questioning church too much in the middle ages, least they read something on top of it, the hate towards the church produced protestantism, loss of trust, not protestantism produced hate. Otherwise puritans would rebel earlier. There this moment in building religion when community of a country makes something together, they end up contributing each something of their own, without doubting culture they established for their own. It was same case with esoteric buddhism that had to dialectically protect itself from influence of mind-only schools. Because participating in religious life is a social work of connected people through shared beliefs, they are not bothered with "truth" at the moment of building it together when everyone was still acting like one big family forming a nation, for community established with it was reward on its own, gave people common divine law to follow.

The thing is if christianity did not exist at its present state, some other mystic cult would blow up instead in same vein. Spirituality doesn't seem to change too much though, its just assuming different form according to a place where its practiced. And jews with muslims, at least before false god of multiculturalism arrived, provided needed scapegoat to work in opposition of, and as much as christianity contributed towards end goals of the jews, it also equally contributed to hate of them, evening itself out as opposing force to the patterns of jewish character.

So yeah, all strong religions are formed in binding of homogeneous communities. Otherwise you have the American chaos with zero consistency or conviction.

>>169903

Christ whipping in the temple makes no sense for a pious and learned Jew to do. It is the mark of an uneducated Jew or hostile outsider upon learning that the empty altars of Jews have always been pragmatic exchanges. Every Jewish Holiday celebrates a fundraiser over a military victory. The spirit of Judaism is yearned by believing GOYIM that it is just the antiquated and authentic roots of their own. False.

Pythagoras and Hellenic spirituality is accessible through yourself and you bringing together the relics that are currently under Jewish dark bondage. You can still bib at the IndoEuropean LOGOS in Christian Platonism but only if you can dissect the Platonism from the semitic dead ritual and copy pasta guilt trip spam. Basically be a heretic in Church but as equally an ancestral unassimilable heretic as a Jew is in Church. You are there to worship at an altar of resurrection, you're just using double entendre to discover who and what was hidden. You can be a follower of dissecting falsehood and an explorer of truth but their is no roof for your piety outside of your intentions to build one.

You must transmute the feces of your surroundings: the Jews sent iconoclasts to ransack not just our Gold but our temples and in their Talmud they left their most hated Jew covered in feces for us to worship but only after our blind governance tortured and killed him. You must use the unrighteous mammon, the fiat currency that is in reality circulated interest from usury to consolidate to God's money. God's money is Hitler's and Andrew Jackson's view on Gold. Once you can see and collect God's bank then you will have the Fiat army desperate at your heels. When you pray it will take time to pray to our Father in Heaven whom the Jews have never recognized. Our Father in heaven has always been our God across all our European pantheons and societal systems which come from the interface of our racial soul.

https://youtu.be/UxEOlsPsjfg

>>169908

>BUT WAIT WHY DON'T WE CAST A MAGIC WATER SPELL?!

>OH YOU WANT TO RUN YOUR OWN BUSINESS WITHOUT MY COURT JEW IN IT?!

>HEY EVERYONE HE DOESNT BELIEVE IN CASTING WATER SPELLS SO HE IS A DEMON WHO IS GOING TO SEND US ALL TO HELL! INQUISITION NOW! BASED JEWS ASSEMBLE!

>>169903

>Apart from Christianity, what other spiritual systems are there for me to follow?

>Spiritual

>System

Spirituality ain't a System. Spirituality is the development of your Psyche. Nothing to do with Binding Systems.

Religions are a "System" because they Bind people together, but they aren't just rules, they have Ideology in them; they only allow what their "rules" say; their Rules ARE the World! ; Want to develop your own rules? Heretic; that means you aren't a real Communist! All Communities, Peoples, Groups have Binding Rituals, Initiation Rites, Celebrations; None have Binding Rules that Defines your (You) outside the (World); That's what the Jews did when they applied Normative Inversion to the Animistic Peoples that surrounded them.

>No afterlife

>No images representing Sacradness; Sense-Experience; Aniconism.

>God's Chosen, the most high has give US meaning, We are the Sacred thing.

>All other GOds, Traditions are Fake, False

>Natural World is Profane, Unholy, The World is Fake ; Transcendent Reality instead of The World as Essence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGt7_0GEOvo

>Animism is the belief that objects, places, and creatures all possess a distinct spiritual essence.

To Animate the World is what Humans naturally do.

(Being's) in the (World) ; Spiritual Within Material. This allows us to make Sense of the Essence of things.

With Christianity we experienced the Removal of our Psyche from the World and the World from our Psyche.This is a cause of the Schizophrenic Nature of Christianity. This "Christian World" is Judaism for Gentiles; Judaism WITH Animism. God in a ParaCroxx. Unresolved. Tearing us apart . That was then.

>The Time has come when we have to Pay for being Christians for 2000 years

>The Advent of Nihilism; the logical Conclusion to Christian Values

>Nietzsche

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq3Z3GqY-XU

Now?

Post-Modernism and Communism.

Subjectivity eating itself; Inverted Ouroboros: Subjectivity with no Sense-Experience because there is no Objective Reality(No World, No Essence), P.Modernism keeps breaking/atomizing your Sense-Experience because you can't percieve Objective Reality and thus there is no way to really make Sense of things.

Communism; Objective Reality (defined by Ideology) with no Sense-Experience because there is no You ( subject) in the World, only the Ideology, only the Secularisation of the World, No Transcendence and no Essence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-BZylziBKI

>What System do I follow

>Do I follow

>Follow

We Moderns Conceptualize our Subjective Experience through Religious Dogma, no Dogma, no Transcendent Reality, The Void ( because The World as Essence is still profane, Mundane)

>Pagans and Christians in the City: Culture Wars from the Tiber to the Potomac

>By; Steven D.Smith

>Classical paganism was the model of "immanent" religiosity. Gods were those who could be bargained with and dealt with because their concerns involved the present world since there was no other world.

>On the other hand, a sense of dislocation - of being not "at home" in this world - also came with the transcendent religion:

>"The pagan orientation, in short, accepts this world as our home, and does so joyously, exuberantly, worshipfully. (Or at least that is one part of the pagan orientation; we may encounter other, darker aspects as we proceed.) The transcendent monotheism of Judaism and Christianity, by contrast, disrupts this comfortable sense of being at home. Though created and sustained by God, the world is now also separated from God—a separation aggravated, in Christian doctrine, by the Fall. Christians (and also Jews) effectively undid the pagan sacralization of the world, and instead effected a “desanctification of nature,”

The Relationship with our Psyche is founded upon the Ideology , not from Sense-Experience taking into account the World with Us. It's unfathonable to Be-a-Being without Binding Rules, Parameters set by Priests! Please rabbi, priest, sjw, blue-checkmark, please Define Me! Give me Instructions to how-to-Be! NPC needs Instructions! Program me!

>>185117

>The Relationship with our Psyche

Friendly reminder that all psychological self masturbation on split personality is literally the very definition of LARPing. At this point you can just believe in your anime waifu and make her your own tulpa. Eventually self induced hallucinations will even allow you to see her. All of this is based on extreme levels of subjective rationalization of religion, when its just "happens only in your head, haha", but with attempt to make it sound serious.

Even some pagan books attempt to take it this way "old gods never died… its just they were always part of our imagination!" and that's why we call them LARPagans.

This isn't faith.

>>185126

>Friendly reminder that all psychological self masturbation on split personality is literally the very definition of LARPing. At this point you can just believe in your anime waifu and make her your own tulpa.

>State that our Psyche is Influenced by Transcendental Sacredness

>Talk about Tulpa's and Split Personality

Lmao, that is totally not what I am inferring, but this "Split" is exactly what Transcendental Sacredness did to us.. Maybe I should not have used "relationship" but "relation" ; We examine our Nature, Psyche, through a Transcendetal Sacredness that dislikes; is hostile to nature, which is what the first pic adressess in my post above.

Pretty revealing that you responded to my post with that claim.

>All of this is based on extreme levels of subjective rationalization of religion, when its just "happens only in your head, haha", but with attempt to make it sound serious.

>Totally misses the point.

Yes you totally missed the point; But did Support my Statement.

It's not the "Rationalization" of Religion; It's the Rationalization of Beings.

> when its just "happens only in your head, haha", but with attempt to make it sound serious.

Whe can't know Noumena

We can only Know Phenomena

Everything is happening in your Head; How else can you even acknowledge you are Posting with other Anons? How can you make Sense of things here Shared? How much of our Digital Interactions only ever Happen in your Head? Emails, Whatsapp, DM's. You even respond with an Animated Cartoon! kek. All Reality is Sense-Percieved.

>Even some pagan books attempt to take it this way "old gods never died… its just they were always part of our imagination!" and that's why we call them LARPagans.

>This isn't faith.

>Only my LARP is Real Goyim.

>Live Action is Profane; Religious Role Playing is Sacred!

>Only my Text is Sacred Goy

>This Reality and your Subjective Sense Experience is not "real" not "sacred", Only what We say you need to belief in.

Incredible.

>Eventually self induced hallucinations will even allow you to see her.

>Transcendent religion is not unified or holistic. Transcendent religion postulates that the city is a temporary and imperfect thing - and always will be - with one's perfect home to be found outside of this reality. Transcendent religion in the Christian version postulated a "Two Cities" political philosophy. One city was the city of this world to which one owed political allegiance but over and above that city was a greater City to which one owed total and ultimate loyalty.

> with one's perfect home to be found outside of this reality.

But hey, it's the Animists that are Hallucinating! How dare they think Things have a Soul HERE.

You are Here Forever.

>>185185

>And Christianity is Platonic, right?

No: >>184807

Since Byzantium Aristotle was chosen as primary inspiration for all the dogmatism. And Plato is "father of all heretics".

>>185195

Except whole experience of Neoplatonists with Christians is based on a conflict of interests, and former were persecuted eventually by the later. Platonic philosophers were pro-reincarnation, Christians were against it. Platonic philosophers were basing their views on Timaeus, fantasy world view world of Plato, Church Fathers spend years criticizing it harshly, only defending other platonizing theologians through claiming that Plato was in fact revering his Hebrew instructor and was well versed in Torah. Homosexuality and Pagan Gods were heavily stigmatized through critics of Plato from Christian perspective.

George Scholarios, Manuel II Palaeologus, Tertulianos were all viewing Plato as the source of Heretical Gnostic world view. Also the very idea of attributing Plato as creed to Christianity was the thing they hated most: "Platonists deceived and misled many Christians… by craftily and tlatteringly pretending that all Christian religion originated from Plato".

Church's scholastic method is heavily based on Aristotelian dialectics. There were few platonizing christians, but they had to restrict themselves within the dogma by openly denouncing anything from world view of that epoch.

Read "The Posthumous Life of Plato" by František Novotný:

https://1lib.eu/book/5889324/5c497d

And "Byzantine Philosophy and Its Ancient Sources" by Katerina Ierodiakonou:

https://1lib.eu/book/614540/754522

>>185199

>Except whole experience of Neoplatonists with Christians is based on a conflict of interests

Because they were very close dogmatically. That's like saying the Arian heresy is not Chrsitianity, because the orthodox christians outlawed it.

>>185202

pic related

>>185169

>The term was created and used within early Christianity to refer to a life oriented towards the Holy Spirit.

>I can redefine terms as well to make them suit my beliefs.

Yes that is what you did and reason why you don't comprehend my point.

>>Transcendent religion is not unified or holistic. Transcendent religion postulates that the city is a temporary and imperfect thing - and always will be - with one's perfect home to be found outside of this reality. Transcendent religion in the Christian version postulated a "Two Cities" political philosophy. One city was the city of this world to which one owed political allegiance but over and above that city was a greater City to which one owed total and ultimate loyalty.

>The term was created and used within early Christianity to refer to a life oriented towards the Holy Spirit.

The Term was not created you pleb. The Holy Spirit is literally the "Anima" that grants you a Soul. That's why it's called Spirit; Pneumena; Ruach; the Breath that grants you Life;

Because the "Holy Spirit" is now not of This World, this World is now Profane, Mundane; it comes from God. And so all the development of your Soul aimed at Being a Being of the Other World, of the Real and Sacred Transcendent World, the Moral and Abstract Pefection.

>Do you want some kind of libertarian spirituality where we are all free to create whatever we want?

I do not want anything; That is the condition of Human Spirit we already do that, it was Judaic religions that waged an Ontological War against Nature; it absolutly detested Degeneracy, but all Animist Cultures detest deviant behaviour; Rome, the Hellens were decaying after a long time of Urbanization and so the Slander against the Innmanent World was much more effective; Attention, it's not only that Christians annihilated deviant behaviour, it also destroyed any connection to nature by the converts; The Spirit is only for Humans and not for the World, the Earth, Ancestor Worship, etc.

>Well we clearly outgrew that

>That's why the only religion possible today will not be animistic.

Religion isn't Animistic; Religion is an Action, to Bind, it has nothing to do with the Being that is doing the Binding! There is a WorldView behind the Religion. InTranscendent Religion the Sacredness, "the Holy Ghost" ;the Spiritus Santus has to Breath life into you! Because our bodies are profrane; We are literally Homunculus given a Soul by G*d.

>Well we clearly outgrew that

What is Pepe? ; Moonman? ; What is Meme Culture? ;No Shave November?; Inner Earth Aryans?; the CIA Bronies?; We wuzing? Naming Animals, Pets? ; Naming your Progeny? ; Naming Streets?

>Christian values are the exact opposite of nihilism. Any platonic system is the exact opposite of Christianity.

No, Christian Values are the Logical Conclusion of Judaism; Nihilism. Thats were they would lead us because a total perfect abstract word outside This one is totally Demoralizing.

>You are the one who is a nihilist ;You are the one that doesn't believe in a deity or afterlife; You're the one believing in eternal nothingness;Unless you find a way to cope and still believe that Zeus creates lightning, you will forever be a nihilist.

>Implying,Projection and Name calling

Argument not found.

>You are being contradictory. The world, God or anything does not have an essence if we are the ones creating the essence. You are the epitome of subjectivity.

I am not contradicting myself; I am describing Communism and their Secularization of Life which does stem from the Abstract Anti-Sacred Cults of Abraham, maybe I should have not used that term, should have payed more attention and not write a post at 3am.

>The world, God or anything does not have an essence if we are the ones creating the essence. You are the epitome of subjectivity.

We do not create the Essence, We Experience it, it is Prior, it's already here. You are Born Into it. God needed to give you a Soul because you, as a Abrahamist, already deny that there is a Spirit , an Anima, of the World and that your Group, Tribe, Nation is a part of it.

>Jonathan Bowden: Heidegger and Death's Ontology

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_os-ysZJM_I

1/2

>>185169

>>185355

>There is not an objective reality without a God. You are the one arguing about how postmodernism is bad while being a relativist.

No, you Normative Inversion Cultists can't fathom Living in a World Without the Inversion of it Existing; that is you do not Tolerate a Immanent World because you already Infer it is Fallen; Which is what "The Holy Spirit" is about, Your Spirit Here in the Fallen Reality(because the Natural World is without Spirit) and when you Die you go to the Real, Perfect, Abstract True Reality!

There is no way of Anihilating the Inmanent World unless you have a Transcendental God; You have a G*d to Destroy False Gods from a Theological Stanpoint because you want to Bind your Cultists to your Transcendental WorldView were the Natural World is BTFO to prevent them from Assimilating. It wasn't a War on Degeneracy that the Abrahamics Cults waged; something much more Wrafthul, it is against the Natural World itself, against the Human Psyche.

Christians destroyed the Hellenic Grooves and Libraries

English Puritans banned Shakespear

Hashashim sacked Mecca because the Kabba is Pagan

Taliban destroying the Buddhas statues

>The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small Minority

https://archive.is/QMWAa

http://archiv.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/propylaeumdok/3424/1/Assmann_Monotheism_and_its_political_2005.pdf

The only thing that can Express itself is the Ideology! But how can Something Abstract express itself in the (((Fallen))) World? And should we mention how Monotheists prosecute themselves? I am the real Monotheist! But hey…its the Pagans who are the Relativists!

>Although Assmann does not draw this conclusion, his argument supports the idea that the “slave revolt in morals” that Nietzsche saw at the root of Christian morality goes all the way back to the creation of Judaism at Mount Sinai. Judaism, in short, is no more a religion than Anton LaVey’s Satanism is. Both are just counter-religions, i.e., hateful inversions — “Satanic” parodies — of other religions or counter-religions. The Babylonian Talmud (Sabbat 89a) claims that Sinai received its name because it is the place from which hate (sin’ah) descended upon the world.

>Biblical monotheists also reject unitative mysticism as blasphemy. The idea of creation ex nihilo means that creatures are not identical with God but merely depend upon God for their existence. The perennial mystical teaching is that one’s ownmost being is identical with being/god as such, whereas the idea of creation means that our ownmost being is precisely our nullity — i.e., our absolute dependence on a transcendent and wholly other God. Creation theology posits a metaphysical abyss between God and creation that cannot be bridged by any creaturely act.

https://counter-currents.com/2014/06/moses-the-egyptian/

>Cudworth wishes to show that the idea of one supreme God is entirely natural, not the product of idiosyncratic fancy or pious fraud.

>Cudworth distinguishes between “unmade and self-existent gods” — Spinoza called the unmade and self-existent “substance” and identified it with with God/nature — and “native and mortal gods” — i.e., gods which are relative to particular societies and which have the status of higher-ordered created and finite beings. Cudworth claims that no ancient people ever claimed that there is a plurality of “unmade and self-existent” gods. Instead, they believed that there is only one unmade and self-existent god, who creates all beings — including “native and mortal gods"….Cudworth sums up his thesis by claiming that “the generality of Greekish Pagans acknowledged One Universal and All-comprehending Deity, One that was All.”

>The idea that God is “One and All” (Greek Hen kai Pan) is not the same as the Biblical view, which claims that God is one but not identifiable with the all. The cosmos is created by God and sustained by God but also separate from God. The pagan teaching is that in our deepest nature we are one with God. The Biblical teaching is that in our deepest nature we are nullities, sustained in existence only by the will of a separate God.

https://counter-currents.com/2014/07/notes-on-moses-the-egyptian-part-3/

>>185169

>>185355

>>185375

>Any platonic system is the exact opposite of Christianity.

Wrong.

>Pic 1#

>now we understand that lightning doesn't come from Zeus, it comes from scientific phenomena.

How do you think they discovered Iron?; Archimedes? ;Made the Greatest and Most Beautiful Monuments ever created? ;Roman Engineering? ;Pythagoras?

>Quoting from Jonathan Bowden speech on Yukio Mishima

>These are supernatural ideas, but one of the tricks of Japanese culture, which is very similar to ancient Greece in this respect, is that all orders of opinion can accept these beliefs because there are secular and atheistic interpretations of these belief systems as there are purely religious ones. As in ancient Greece, a woman could kneel or lie before a statue of a god, and yet rationalist intellectuals in the same civilization could regard the divine stories as entirely metaphorical. And yet they would all be accepted as Greek. And they would all be accepted as different definitions of what it was to be Greek or to be a member of a Greek city-state. Mishima, for one, was obsessed by Greece, particularly ancient Greece, and incorporated quite a few Grecian odes and ethics into his books.

>>185173

>Schopenhauer said that the noumena is will. Thoughts?

>Schopenhauer's postulated noumenal world is quite different: reality in itself, independent of our sense perceptions, is a single undifferentiated entity that we can know about. He called this entity the Will. … The Will is blind in every way: behind the phenomena, Schopenhauer's reality is without purpose.

>reality in itself, independent of our sense perceptions, ….

>The Will is blind in every way

>Schopenhauer's reality is without purpose.

>Pic 1# to 4#

>>185171

>How? You are just saying words, what you say makes no sense. Just abstract word salad with no logical coherence.

>You are just saying words, what you say makes no sense. Just abstract word salad with no logical coherence.

>You are just saying words,

>what you say makes no sense

>Just abstract word salad with no logical coherence.

>Projection

Projection is not an Argument, that you can't make Sense of my Statements and the Sources/Evidence I quote to support my Arguments is your problem; That you have lost your Hemeneutical Ability means that you are a 1 Dimensional Man; an NPC.

>That's not his point. His point is that with no external reference point, there is no way to objectively define things. You are a relativist.

No I am not.

>Know Thyself

>Ātman (/ˈɑːtmən/; Sanskrit: आत्मन्) is a Sanskrit word that means inner self, spirit, or soul.[1][2] In Hindu philosophy, especially in the Vedanta school of Hinduism, Ātman is the first principle:[3] the true self of an individual beyond identification with phenomena, the essence of an individual. In order to attain Moksha (liberation), a human being must acquire self-knowledge (atma Gyan).

>>>Cudworth distinguishes between “unmade and self-existent gods” — Spinoza called the unmade and self-existent “substance” and identified it with with God/nature — and “native and mortal gods” — i.e., gods which are relative to particular societies and which have the status of higher-ordered created and finite beings.

>>The distinction between natura naturata and natura naturans comes from Spinoza’s Ethics. If for Spinoza, God and nature are interchangeable, and nature has two aspects, natura naturata (All) and natura naturans (One), then for Spinoza God is All and One. Thus it is easy to see how Hen kai Pan became the watchword of both Spinozism and Hermeticism in the 18th-century, which is the subject of Assmann’s next chapter.

https://counter-currents.com/2014/07/notes-on-moses-the-egyptian-part-3/

>You are so empty spirituality that you rush to some ancient barely documented faith and behave like a tribal person 3000 years ago. That's why you LARP. Singing your hymn isn't larping, but being an anprim varg-tard is…

>You are so empty

>Ad-Hominem

>Projection

> that you rush to some ancient barely documented faith and behave like a tribal person 3000 years ago. That's why you LARP.

>Strawman

>appeal to documentation

>Behave like a Tribal Person

>Implying it's bad to have your Territory, Honor your Traditions, take are of your Family and Kin, etc.

Just like Every other Nation does. Jews, Japs, Chinese…

>That's why you LARP.

>Answering his Strawmnan; Strawman the excuse I am a LARP.

>Refutation_not_found.png

It is Gigantically Clear how not a Noble and Truthfull Anon you are.

>>185385

>Very interesting stuff. Although wouldn't Platonism itself be pagan, especially since Plato and Plotinus were pagans?

Well, they wouldn't be Abrahamics; But Platonism is proto-Communism; It did create an Avenue for Judaism to Invade the Hellenic and European World.

>pic 5#

>>185398

>You said that christianity is not spirituality when they literally invented the term.

No, it's a concept they took from European Animists; Pneumonia.

>I wrote "I can redefine terms as well to make them suit my beliefs." as a criticism towards you.

Because (You) don't understand what is being talked about.

>They didn't. Nero, the roman emperor (jew according to the talmud) that literally married a trap. Or the pedophile homos in Athens.

Do you know what Reading comprehension is?

>>That is the condition of Human Spirit we already do that, it was Judaic religions that waged an Ontological War against Nature; it absolutly detested Degeneracy, but all Animist Cultures detest deviant behaviour; Rome, the Hellens were decaying after a long time of Urbanization and so the Slander against the Innmanent World was much more effective; Attention, it's not only that Christians annihilated deviant behaviour, it also destroyed any connection to nature by the converts; The Spirit is only for Humans and not for the World, the Earth, Ancestor Worship, etc.

Don't Orthodox Rabbis , Christian Priests and Taliban Muslims have a thing for little Kids?

<oy vey when you Euros do it i'ts because you are degenerates, when we do it , it has nothing to do with our Beliefs!

Kys

>It was retarded spic. That's basic knowledge.

From what Peoples do you think the Christians took the Concept of "Holy Breath" you Eyeless Crow? The Abrahamics did not Invert everything. They would not risk becoming NPC Golems themselves!

>That's blatantly false. There is a difference between calling the world perfect and semi-perfect. The word is semi-perfect, it is a failed replica from an abstract perfect world. And if we're being pragmatic, this is correct.

>Our souls are also not perfect, the same thing applies here. They do have a divine otherworldly spark in them.

>Tells me I am wrong; Literally Support my Argument by revealing that he is a Christian/Abrahamic and he Beliefs the World is Fallen.

Imagine being this daft. Are you even paying attention to what is being stated?

>How do you define morality in a relativistic system like yours? Why is what you just said, bad?

All WorldViews are Relativistic because they are grounded on the Values that Define them. Their Morals are in Relation with their Conception of the World; Jews Purged the Caananites and Apep Worshippers; Romans enslaved Conquered Peoples; That which makes me Healthy and Strong is Good, that which makes me sick is Bad ( or evil for the Christians)

>Are you schizophrenic? How is this even animistic? That's internet culture that developed, it has nothing to do with religion.

>Quoting my Examples instead of the Argument after them

>>Religion is an Action, to Bind, it has nothing to do with the Being that is doing the Binding! There is a WorldView behind the Religion.

The Internet Culture from where does it Stem? Humans, from where do Humans Express themselves and what is what they Express? Their Psyche Experiencing the World.

>Stop making the conversation hard for no reason by changing definitions.

>Logical Fallacy; Contradiction

Stop being a Brainlet that is incapable of Reading Comprehension and properly refuting my Posts.

Maybe you wouldn't embarrass yourself by Contradicting me and then Proving my Arguments true, but how would you realize this if you are a Brainlet that can't realize it in the first place?

>But today, we can clearly define the natural world and it is completely in vain. There are no gods in mount Olympus.

That's the Point; they were never "there" you Normalfag.

>Again, I just explained that our bodies are not profane. Our bodies are in a fallen state.

>not profane

>fallen state

That's literally what it means. What are you 12 years old?

>Shouldn't you use an argument to prove that it's not fallen?

If in my Worldview there is no fallen state, why would i need to argue about it not being Fallen?

By accepting the Propositions of an opposing and Hostile WorldView you have given them the Strength to Annihilate you at the Eyes of Everyone Witnessing the Discussion and the Cultists that are reinforced with confirmation bias; Before the Argument, they already defined your Position! Heathen! Cis Gendered Male! Mushrakin! Goyim! You refuse the Godspell of God! You Devil Worshipper!

>Why is that bad? Having an ideal to strive for is better for this world as well.

That's why it is Demoralizing, The Complete, Finished Place Waiting for you can't come Here. This Struggle in this World is made False! which is why Abrahamics are Obsessed with Destruction of this World! That Idea is Beyond this World. You can see the result with what is happening in Europe and America now.

>Do you believe in a deity or afterlife?

Do you believe in eternal nothingness? Are you a nihilist?

I Believe Life; In Eternal Everything and Memory.

>>183868

>>183988

>Nietzsche is a huge faggot and probably was a jew himself

The Christian is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a Meek, Moralist, Fundamentalist, Hypocrite, RaceMIxer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

“This is precisely why the Jews are the most disastrous people in world history: they have left such a falsified humanity in their wake that even today Christians can think of themselves as anti-Jewish without understanding that they are the ultimate conclusion of Judaism.”

- Friedrich Nietzsche, The Anti-Christ

>The Jews have brought off that miraculous feat of an inversion of values, thanks to which life on earth has acquired a novel and dangerous attraction for a couple of millennia. … Their prophets…were the first to use the word ‘world’ as a term of contempt. This inversion of values…constitutes the significance of the Jewish people: they mark the beginning of the slave rebellion in morals.

- Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil>thats funny. Since according to Nietzsche christianity was founded by St Paul and was a jewish sect known as "Christian Jews" at first.

Globo-Homo is also Manipulating Religions, Beliefs , Cults, Behaviours, Attitudes, etc..

The Hermeneutical Death of the Human Being is the aim.

This is the Meme War.

>>185467

>>Pneumonia

>Literally a fucking lung disease

<Your Meaning means nothing Goy!

>Pneuma (πνεῦμα) is an ancient Greek word for "breath", and in a religious context for "spirit" or "soul".[1][2] It has various technical meanings for medical writers and philosophers of classical antiquity, particularly in regard to physiology, and is also used in Greek translations of ruach רוח in the Hebrew Bible, and in the Greek New Testament. In classical philosophy, it is distinguishable from psyche (ψυχή), which originally meant "breath of life", but is regularly translated as "spirit" or most often "soul".

>>Because (You) don't understand what is being talked about.

>No, you use a psychological technique called preemptive mirroring to muddle through all the incoherent bullshit you say.

>Projecting

Yes, that is what you do; it is you who does not construct arguments and does not provide sources and evidence to support his Statements; You are such a Brainlet Normalfag, that in your next Sentence you keep agreeing with me and BTFO'ing Yourself :

>There is no such things as Abrahamism. Your empty slanderous words are not arguments. I never said they created the Holy Breath. Christianity borrowed most of the stuff from Egyptians and Greeks.

> Christianity borrowed most of the stuff from Egyptians and Greeks.

>Your empty slanderous words are not arguments. I never said they created the Holy Breath.

You literally claimed that here:

>>185396

> While pagans do not show resistance to degeneracy.

The Teutons Bogged the Sods.

And the Catholic Church, the Jews and Muslims protect their pedos.

<Only my system is moral goy!

>No, I understand your semitic pilpul techniques perfectly.

That's what you do when you claim Pneumonia is a Lung Disease and then Contradict yourself by Agreeing with my Statement of how Christians/Jews do have Concepts that Overlap with European Animists.

>You clearly are very retarded and have zero knowledge of theology.

>You clearly are very reatded and have zero knowledge of Marxism.

>You clearly are very reatded and have zero knowledge of Christianity

>Ad-hominem

>Appeal to authoriy; I know about this you dont retard!

<Oy vey If I say you don't know about my Theology/Ideology then you don't know and makes you

Pic 4# for you here >>185439

>You are so desperately creating logical suppositions

>Implying; can't give a single example of how

>so that The reason why many people converted is because it was more believable.

The reason was the Roman World was dying after making several mortal mistakes; The Slaves took over Rome. Oswald Spengler is correct in that Civilizations and Cultures are Organisms; if they fuck up they can die.

>Shouldn't you be able to justify a world that isn't fallen? Why isn't it fallen?

That's your problem Christian.

>I love how you use Hindu concepts as a refutation of my arguments when in Hinduism we are in a fallen state, Kali Yuga!

>In Hinduism, Kali Yuga is the last of the four stages (or ages or yugas) the world goes through as part of a 'cycle of yugas' (i.e. mahayuga)

I'ts not a fallen state , Don't Invade your Worldview onto others; well why not! thats how you destroy them Schlomo! Only our worldview is true everything else is Fallen!

It's part of a Cycle you Most Enourmous Stupid Pig-Brain of a Black Lying Snake.

>>185470

>Nietszceh talks about christians

>Strawman; lets talk about NatSocs and Christianity

Wew

>>185590

1. Majority of jews only preach Torah, not whole Tanakh. Prophet teachings are ignored by orthodox jews. Unless they are used for gematria/alphabet purposes, that are related to their god-function binding magic of their angels.

2. There are a lot of anti-israel messages among the old jewish prophets, hence they claimed to be murdered, which Jesus confirms in Luke‎ 11:‎50; Matthew‎ 23:‎30 and for Zachariah especially in Matthew 23:35.

>>185652

>type the word

>ignores the numerous times the word God is in my posts.

>If you don't type the word then you confirm my confirmation bias!

>Let's exploit tension points

Gotta do better than that Chaim.

Off to the Oven you go.

>>185470

You do know Fascifist is literally a ficking poonigger who stole a Whiute woman right and Andkon's Reich has recently been outed as a jew on telegram he was also so stupid as to edit his eyes the color blue.

>>184796

>>185439

Goes to show you that these are just shitskins talking, you're not white that's for fucking sure

>>185909

>Ironically, I know much less about Southern European Paganism

>What is there sacred text?

Best sources on that are Greek ones, Hesiod, Homer, Orpheus and Plato. Italian religion is Hellenic and based on the Greek one, adapted supposedly by Numa Pompilius. Greek religion is loosely based on Mesopotamian one*. And majority of European pagan religions, without exception even to Egypt, are local re-adaptations of pantheon started in Assyrian fertile crescent of astrological/planetary deities. Which eventually singularly fell down. Because heathens lived too much at ease, if Zechariah 1:15 is attributed to that. A harlotry had to be turned over to instill virginity.

*Know a big deal of books on the subject of comparison between Mesopotamian religion and Greece:

Hesiod and the Near East by Peter Walcot:

https://1lib.eu/book/2693798/de2f67

Greek Myths and Mesopotamia: Parallels and Influence in the Homeric Hymns and Hesiod by Charles Penglase

https://1lib.eu/book/647430/593a83

The East Face of Helicon - West Asiatic Elements in Greek Poetry and Myth by Martin L. West

https://1lib.eu/book/2758188/7232c5

The Orientalizing Revolution: Near Eastern Influence on Greek Culture in the Early Archaic Age by Walter Burkert

https://1lib.eu/book/952816/68aa80

The "neo-pagans" you are talking about are not pagans at all, they're idiots. Same as modern "christians" who indulge in similar degeneracy. You will find nothing by googling it. Espouse real paganism, here's a quick list of useful books on germanic paganism and related history if you're interested (many of them are in Norwegian, as you will find the most books about the topic in Scandinavian, excuse me if that'd be a problem):

The Eddas:

The Older Edda

The Younger Edda

Flateyjarbok

Icelandic "kin-sagas" (ættesagaer):

Fljotsdæla saga

The story of Ravnkel Freysgode

Njåls saga

The Saga of Bjørn Hitdølakjempe

The Saga of Gunlaug Ormstrunge

The Saga of Hallfred Vandrådeskald

The Saga of Ravnkel Frøisgode

The Saga of Thorstein Stanghug

The Saga of Torstein Hvite

The Faroesers' saga

The Saga of Vinland

Sigmund Brestessons saga

The Sagas of Bjørn Hitdølakappe

The Sagas of Finnboge den ramme

The Sagas of Gunnlaug Ormstrunga

The Sagas of Hønse-Tore

The Sagas of Håvard Isfjording

Laxdæla saga

The Sagas of Ofeig den sløge

The Sagas of Ramnkjell Frøys-gòde

The Sagas of Øyrbyggjerne

Other sagas:

The Orkney saga

Ågrip

The stories of the Joms vikings

Norse fornaldersagas:

The Saga of Fridtjof

The Saga of the Volsungerns

Ragnar Lodbrok and his sons

The story of Halv and his giants

The story of Rolv Krake and his giants

The story of Orvar-Odd

Norge blir funnet (Fundinn Noregr)

Hvordan Norge ble bebygd (How Norway was built)

Other:

The Irish Chronicles

Eddaene:

Den Eldre Edda

Den Yngre Edda

Flatøybok

Islandske ættesagaer:

Fjotsdøla

Fortællingen om Ravnkel Freysgode

Njåls saga

Sagaen om Bjørn Hitdølakjempe

Sagaen om Gunlaug Ormstrunge

Sagaen om Hallfred Vandrådeskald

Sagaen omRavnkel Frøisgode

Sagen om Thorstein Stanghug

Sagen om Torstein Hvite

Færøingernes saga

Sagaen om Vinland

Sigmund Brestessons saga

Soga um Bjørn Hitdølakappe

Soga um Finnboge den ramme

Soga um Gunnlaug Ormstrunga

Soga um Hønse-Tore

Soga um Håvard Isfjording

Laksdøla

Soga um Ofeig den sløge

Soga um Ramnkjell Frøys-gòde

Soga um Øyrbyggjerne

Andre sagaer:

Orknøyingenes saga

Ågrip

Fortellingene om Jomsvikingene

Norrøne fornaldersagaer:

Sagaen om Fridtjof den frøkne

Sagaen om Volsungerne

Sverdet Tyrfing

Ragnar Lodbrok og hans sønner

Fortellingen om Halv og kjempene hans

Fortellingen om Rolv Krake og hans kjemper

Fortellingen om Orvar-Odd

Norge blir funnet

Hvordan Norge ble bebygd

Annen litteratur:

De irske krønikene

>>186034

The main difference between Christianity and paganism is that if you mention that you worship Odin in any civil conversation you'll be looked at like at a man who collects warhammer figures of Khorne and reads fantasy novels. Not a person questioning gravest matters through power of honest faith. Even mentioning philosophy produces less looks of concern. It instantly portrays you a person who betrayed his own parents and loves to participate in counter cultural fads.

While throw at bunch of Christians few christian quotations from the Bible and a serious conversation follows to the point of near conflict on interpretations, people protecting believes of their communities, and going emotional, easy to find a common topic with. You'll never have that with your Eddas and Sagas, they'll make you an edgy outcast.

Why not just embrace Hellenic Roman religion again? It was the religion that most influenced the foundations of our European or Faustian spirit with its values and divine examples and myths, i suggest you embrace it together with multiple schools of philosophy such as stoicism(for example), religion should be ritualistic with rites(though not none of those LARP sacrifices, adapt it in the modern world with simple shit like prayers and said rites that bonds our people and instills a sense of brotherhood) not a philosophy.

But please make it secondary, our race and our people should be placed first do not forget about that(it would also be noted that being a ethno or racial nationalist doesnt make you hate other races, it just sets a goal of bettering your own community above all else)

>>169903

Every argument against Christianity is easily countered with one request:

Show me a religion the Jews hate more.

A most controversial topic awaits this time. That of the topic of Christianity and the importance of avoiding it's trap. I have debated about whether to cover this but I feel it must be done even if it may cause hurt. Part of me resists posting this, the attacks on Christianity have indeed been brutal of late but simply put this is due to it's connections to the European ethos that I hesitated however now this is something that Christianity itself is inflicting harm upon.

It is absolutely unquestionable that the subject of Christianity is a tempestuous one. A man can argue for and against with ease but in the end it is only with a firm understanding of both the history and the actions of this faith that we can decide a fairly firm conclusion. Those who decry it as a "kike on a stick" while simple in their ethos hold a grain of truth, those who profess "it can save you" also bear a portion of truth as well even if blinded by simple rhetoric. The uncompromising truth however is somewhat prosaic. We must look at Christianity within the wider context of our people, it's origins and where it has led us to fully grasp it's ramifications. So let us begin.

In it's initial form the Christian faith was a clear piece of the tripartite Abrahamic religious system, a system of principles it deviated from to a degree while still partially relying on Judaic frameworks (said deviation more so in the New Testament compared to the Old Testament) presenting a rather serious issue with it in it's base incarnation. One need merely read the Old Testament to know of what I speak, from the tale of Isaac to the "borrowing" of Assyrian and Babylonian concepts and legends within it's construction, it is a very well engineered piece of rhetorical machinery. Now I do not say this to belittle Christ or the concept of the Christian God but these facts concerning biblical texts and Christian theology at large are undeniable. It is a faith built upon other faiths. A faith that subverts, not unlike Judaism itself. Now, no doubt some are perturbed at this comparison and rightly so, for is not Christianity the religion of the European people? Well, yes and no. There is an uncomfortable truth for those who profess Christianity is the true bulwark against the parasite, this being that the parasite has already taken apart Christianity, with ease I would like to add. Allow me to explain.

It is quite true Christianity was remade into a European religion, from it's art to it's theological teachings, it all rings true to the spirit of the European peoples, or rather it did for a time. But due to the very engineering behind the religion specific loop holes and schisms occurred, be it debate on veneration of the Holy Spirit over some other aspect, be it how best to worship, be it certain granular concepts, Christianity proved to be a most divisive tool. If Christianity truly was the religion of the European peoples then why did it's character change so much and become so malleable? Ah, now the classic defense of such events is always "Well x wanted y which goes against z", a defense that one may note is almost always used in some form or another. "Well Catholicism is based", "Well Mormons are based", "Well Luther is based as he rejected the kikes", it all goes on and on as each separate sect makes up it's own little rules and declares itself as the right choice while forever being unable to find proper unity within the whole. Some may try to put such conventions aside for the good of the people of Europa but sadly these rare individuals do not understand two fundamental flaws. Firstly, by writ of the actions of their own sects and deviations, they will never find true unity for Christianity has become too infested with semitic influence and internal power struggle. The second is that the Christian ethos has not only shown itself incapable of defending it's followers but has been detrimental to them in the long term.

Now when I say detrimental I do not just mean the modern incarnations but far beyond that. Consider for a moment one of the "prouder" events of Christian history, that of the Crusades. Do you recall that classic phrase "Deus Vult" or rather God Wills It? A very interesting phrase, one with fascinating connotations with the "willingness" to assemble an army of Christ a millennia ago. Ultimately despite the Churches best efforts against the Islamic invaders it failed to keep it's holdings, repeatedly. This has been something that has occurred time and time again as it's sordid history continued, an absence of effective action beyond taking some minor retribution against heresies and even then much hand wringing was evident as their own internal politics came into play. It is a faith mired in it's own incompetence, let alone it's failure at resisting Jewish infiltration. I mean consider, did Christ not drive the Merchant from the temple, did he not warn of the "synagogue of Satan"? He clearly did so why is it that the Church and it's countless followers fold so easily to their machinations. This religious "epoch" of the European peoples, this grand beauteous faith, how did it become so redundant if not for it's own failings? Cromwell sought to let the Jews back into Britain seeking to convert, a devout man of faith, and in doing so infested a newly forming empire. The Goth clans after the fall of Rome, adherents to Christ accepted the semite again then as well as they surveyed the ruins of their fallen foe, hopes of converting and again they too fell to it's influence of mercantile. The Byzantine, the papalcy, Constantinople, countless times Christianity has failed to guard the European people and itself against the depredations of those who would prey on us.

One must ask themselves, just why was Constantinople allowed to fall? Were they not also followers of Christ, were they not also "children of the lord", should good Christians of not ran to it's defense? When in it's darkest hour, why was this jewel allowed to be pillaged, sons and daughters of Europa either slaughtered or turned into slaves to labour under foreign invaders, women raped and children murdered, why was this atrocity allowed to happen? Why when the Islamic hordes arrived at Vienna was it not an army of Christ but Polish Hussars who led this charge, where were the noble and the pious then as cities burned and the sons and daughters of Europa lay violated by vile invaders? No where. No rallying cry putting fire into hearts of heroes, no men of Christ marching to protect their kin and their faith en masse, just politics and cowardice. No "work around" to be found by this petty fiefdom of manipulators or charlatans to turn the tide that time. No, they may be brothers but Christianity demands politics take precedence over brotherhood and action and like any good Christian you must adhere to the principals set out, not act for the interests of your own people. You'll be rewarded in the afterlife after all, trust the plan. My, that almost sounds akin to something else of late. But let us be generous, let us consider that this inaction is for a good reason, that Man is at fault and not the then corrupted system that he is tied to. After all, is the outcome not as "God wills it", that these horrific things occurred not to failings but part of a grand design? Is it not required for these atrocities to happen as it was fated to happen, that delightful get out clause where one can wash their hands of their own faiths failings and their own personal ones by "passing the buck"? This has always been one of the foulest concepts within the Christian ethos I've found, this lack of responsibility. Oh how easy it is to be high and noble when it's the spreading of the word but how hard it is to defend it when facing attack.

There is something else one must contemplate when considering the Christian faith, that of it's uses. Many know of the way the "preachers" left for strange shores in the age of exploration, selling the tale of Christianity to all who would hear no matter the creed or colour. One must ask *why*. Why do this. To save their souls? Fair enough but upon what vaunted arrogance does the Christian faith have to claim itself as the "religion for all"? (I eagerly await the "hurr u r just a heathen, u mad bro at that statement). Ah, but it was out of "love" was it not? Love for the fellow "man", love to save the soul of even the most barbarous tribe, perhaps even to "civilise" them in the hopes they too could share in the glory of European achievement, that they could emulate it (a very naive perspective). But I would posit it was something more than simple love or an attempt to civilise barbarous tribes. Consider the backdrop for this action. By the time these preachers arrived at these shores the Christian church already had seeds of corruption within it, already was diseased by external influences and material needs not unlike certain other semetic religions, the spiritual second place to finance in the grand skein of events.

Oh the individuals may be pious, may be honourable and true to their faith. But the Church itself? Do not insult people by claiming it too held these beliefs. I would posit that this "conversion" scheme, this mass whoring of the Christian faith was not an act of benevolence but an act of power acquisition. The first true attempt at a "Global" faith, a method of ensuring power against it's competitors of Islam and various localised faiths within these far flung regions. A goal in which it found success what with the promises of technology and free infrastructure. Long term however we may note something of import around these events, that being the failure to fully civilise these people to much of a degree. It failed to truly lift up their lives within spiritual realms beyond a modicum of succor but it did provide influence however. It did provide tithes. It did connect people globally even if done through vaunted means. Thusly what did Christianity as a whole do with this influence, did it work towards a grand scheme upon which humanity could grow, did it grant peace to it's followers? No. It betrayed them. It used them and allowed itself to be used by others. It schemed, it grew fat with riches and power. It fought within itself, who being right or wrong not decided by it's own scriptures or spiritual ideals but whoever had the most influence and the most gold to attain dominance. Such "nobility".

Thusly was "global" Christianity born. Thusly was the hegemony created and did Christianity fall wholesale into it's unending fall of irrelevance. The shackles upon the wrists of Europeans was now firmly placed, the *need* to spread the "good word" to all those who would listen inevitably linking us to those not of our kin with the requirement of feeding, clothing, bringing them to "the light" while filling pockets and diluting it's own message even more so in order to shoehorn it among the alien peoples. With this power it did nought but bring the European peoples troubles but it did not matter for the Church for it had it's own interests at heart, those not being those of the people it claimed to preach to. No, I shall not claim the simple followers of the faith responsible nor shall I claim there was not good Men among these masses. But I shall lay at the feet of any who would claim Christianity can offer salvation a call for answering to *how* it can still offer hope for our people. It has proven corruptible, dangerous, even before the events of the Second Vatican Council.

There is one further charge I would lay at the feet of modern Christianity that is directly connected to it's need to subvert. That of the destruction of the original European mythos. Yes, under the guise of Christianity great monuments have been erected within Europa, incredible edifices worthy of the people who created them. But these edifices, these achievements all came at great cost to ourselves in the grand history of our people. It is often glossed over how many Europeans who resisted this Abrahamic religion were put to the sword, how many towns were engulfed in the "cleansing" Christian flames, how many were slaughtered to make the European continent submit to it's teachings. Of course we all recognise the truth of "might makes right" but that does not absolve Christianity and it's claim of being "European" of it's actions, if anything it makes one question them further. If the Christian faith is so pious, if it's ideals so noble then why did it insist on destroying and subverting so much of our peoples heritage. Why did it have to whore itself by pretending Woden was an analogue for Christ, something recorded within multiple works, why did it have to hide among European traditions and holidays in order to "fit" in. It's actions do not fit some "noble" religion preaching "salvation", it fits with semetic concepts of subversion and blood. It stole a great deal from us and offered little beyond a mask upon which was placed over European advancement and ideals. It is not Christianity that makes the European soul, it is Christianity that has tried to influence it into what we are today. Weakened. Vulnerable. No doubt some would reply with the analogy of "well its kinda European, getting rid of it is like throwing the baby out with the bath water" to which my response is if the baby in question is slowly killing you I do not care if the bath water goes with it or not. There is a more truer analogy than that for the situation we face today however.

Imagine an apple tree if you will, it's fruits most delicious and glistening, an apple tree you helped grow and nurture from sapling to today. One day as you lay your eyes upon the branches once more you see the fruit that has nourished you for so long appears less vibrant, has less luster. You return day after day and watch as most of it's crop whither and the bark slowly darkens, still caring for it none the less. Then one day when you return to the tree you find most of the fruit has rotted, only a handful of still ripe pieces dot it's branches. The sun is still shining but the soil in which the tree grows is poisoned, the fresh water you provided has done little to slow the rot. All your ministrations to preserve it and restore it failed. You can stay with the tree, try to keep it alive despite the corruption seeping through it as parts of it bark slough off and bloated insects make their homes within it's dead branches, it's demise clear for all to see other than the most blinded. Or you can pick the remaining ripe fruits, their skin still glistening and the meat of the fruit still pure and unmolested, savouring the taste of it and planting the seeds from it upon new, fertile soil. Modern Christianity seeks to bring this tree back to life never understanding the soil it grew in was risky from the start. We must be the ones to ensure it's seeds do not go to waste and grant new life as the old tree withers. Something new must be born from it's seeds, a better soil must be chosen.

It is not unfair to say Christendom for the most part is beyond salvage at this point. One cannot hold the individual Christian at fault, nor should they. But as a faith it must either atone for it's failings which is unlikely or be brushed aside. At this time Christianity does not offer a connection to the spirit, it divides us from it, it places man above nature rather than working in conjunction with it, it offers no real ascension or pursuit of greatness, merely a quiet death with the promise of something else after we fall all the while serving the interests of itself and the semetic elite. It makes us pay adherence to something that intrinsically is not our own. We can place as many veneers over it as we wish, we can dress it up as beautifully as we please but it does not change what it is and what it has done. At it's heart it is an Abrahamic religion, one that has played a pivotal role in our past ascendancy and now our destruction. But that is not to say we should ignore it all together, no I would not suggest that for despite it's weakening tendencies some of it's teachings are useful even if it is composed of subversion's of traditional European religions and concepts.

In my eyes Christianity is indeed something to learn from, some of it's values do hold weight. But I would nary embrace it fully for it does not offer hope nor a future. If brothers wish to stand truly against the parasite and the gloaming darkness that comes then they can still freely hold Christ and the Church in their hearts, none would deprive them of that. But they must understand that the survival of our peoples takes precedent over Christianity. That we do not serve Christ in this grand conflict, we do not serve an Abrahamic faith. We serve our people. We serve our nations. We fight to protect the very soil that was entrusted to us so that our sons and daughters may have a future upon it. We do not fight in their Gods name. We fight in the name of Europa and her colonies. That is to whom we entrust our faith, in our brothers and in our Will to gain victory. There is an unspoken reason as to why the only Christian iconography within populist circles is the Celtic Cross. Why all the rest are ancient European or Paganistic symbols. It is because all those other ones hold truer to ourselves, they are more implicitly a part of what composes the European spirit. It is because these symbols are ours and ours alone where as the cross is now a global symbol. It was given away freely and thusly does not belong to Europa, it is a fair question to ask if it ever truly did in the first place. Our people lived and thrived before Christianity. We shall do so again after it.

Not quite what they meant when they created this meme…the book of jew lies looks a lot different now. Luther and the protestants really let the cat out of the bag when they insisted that just anybody could read it.

All hail the newfag influx. These are your next gen faggots that must carry the torch of truth. God wins, but how the fuck does he with this kinda shitshow? Just curious for a federal officer friend who has a gun and a lotta friends willing to murder any opposition in any manner to secure the existence of our agency, and a future for jewish supremacy. Halp.

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Who Christianized the North? – Genealogical Study of the Elite

https://ugetube.com/watch/who-christianized-the-north-genealogical-study-of-the-elite_hnKQLIQRFjMCu3F.html

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