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>The EU is literally the only way forward for Europe unless we want to be geopolitical dwarves. We should be the united states of Europe.

This is the pro EU stance everyone hates and is frequently brought up, we do want to unite but not like this.

If Europe is ever to unite it should not be a federation but rather confederation, this way the right to self determine is kept for nations and we wont be reduced to a destructive globohomo mono culture.

Elements of federalism should remain in the sense that we should strive towards certain standards within the confederation such as wage,tax and infrastructure.

These standards should be made after great consideration and not be forced upon by countries like my own, differences even within these systems should continue to exist on a regional level and interchangeable when necessary this way developing nations with an interest in it could opt for better rates for developmental reasons, while the rest just sits on the standard rates.

This prevents continuous tax havens to leech from the rest of europe by more favourable/less fair policies.

Another talking point is maintaining decentralization, the current framework of a seat of power in Brussels and Strasbourg works against the proposed decentralized structure, a euro parliament and eurocrats are not necessary as they actively work against national interests in order to gather more power for themselves.

Rather than this delegations of foreign affairs can instead meet and bring forward new policy, this as it has become clear since the corona "crisis" is something that can be done without having to build a fortress in Brussels and with the help of technology can even be done on a daily basis without having to pay for travel expenses and the minimal creating of new positions and layers of governance.

>>114586

The confederation is not a state steered by a single head in a single direction but rather the representation of Europe's spirit in the sense that it is many doing their own thing while working towards unified goals such as the defense of the outer borders of Europa and the development of the continent.

It's first and foremost interest are those of all the European nations and peoples to be preserved and proliferated.

One Europe, with many cultures,languages and flags. working in tandem to achieve what we always have, that is to push the boundaries of mankind's limits.

Europa for European peoples and only European peoples will lead mankind in it's new era devoid of the outside degenerates and perversions that have been sweeping the world since the new world order, one that will will take it's rightful place at the top and will as it always has been a guiding beacon.

This will not become the century of American or Chinese hegemony but the century we'll take our rightful place back.

PAX EUROPA

Immigration

Immigration is the greatest active threat to European nations in this point in time, we're not quite facing a demographic replacement but at the rate things are going it will very well be an issue in the future.

Most immigrants are economic migrants, male and between the ages of 20-50 looking for a better life without going trough the trouble of applying trough the right channels, clogging up our system and seeping trough the seams.

The main points of entry are the Mediterranean and the Turkish state, thus we should work on securing these borders, by a tighter and more aggressive approach in patrolling the Mediterranean and curtailing the NGO's working against the interests of Europe in the name of humanism and globalism we can significantly cut immigration trough the sea.

The Turkish state is another threat, while only a few years ago we were happily negotiating possible membership, today's dynamics have changed to one of looming war, once again threatening Greek and Cypriot sovereignty while extorting Brussels out out of Billions, this is an enemy that should be dealt with.

Identity politics

American identity politics do not have a place on our continent, they are a sole american issue and they should be the only ones to deal with it.

There's no need to empower non european and disruptive elements here to burn down our cities and cultural buildings.

The notre dame already took a hit as a result of these kind of tactics spilling over from the US, we will not see any more of our culture harmed by the misguided idea that foreigners have the same rights as blacks in america.

Safe for this other issues like gender identity have also made their way to europe. we should not let their dystopian ideas influence us any further.

There's no need for solidarity with the Americans they dug their hole now let them sit in it, do not go to these rallies to support only to piss these instigators off, do not validate them but judge them for fraternizing with hostile elements trying to bring in misplaced ideologies.

If we let it run it's course more of this will be the result

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>TL;DR

Europa for European peoples and only European peoples

Fuck america and it's bullshit issues

>>114590

Apologies for the poor style: you say identity politics has no place in Europe. I agree it has no place anywhere, but it has already taken Europe. As an example, when you mention the yellow vests, I think they were an important movement full of potential, essentially national populist. The last movement that threatened globohomo was occupy Wall Street, and it was successfully pozzed by identity politics. See pic related.

The exact same thing happened to the YV: as soon as they became relevant, pozzers infiltrated the moment and vomited their identity politics until the movement died (see Onfray's take). The same technique was used, but even earlier in it's development (and this may be unpopular here), to castrate Extinction Rebellion (see intersectional open letters of late 2019 demanding ER address nigger suffering in climate change).

I'm not trying to bring American politics to this thread, I'm trying to say that identity politics is already well instrulentalized, effective, and is here to stay until the great famine and fire cleansing.