/philosophy/ - Philosophy

>>5560

And it's goooone. Nuked by Christian mods. I don't see how those who love philosophy can tolerate religious people who commonly refuse to entertain debate, no matter how respectful. The logical and argumentative part of philosophy is incompatible with religion.

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>>5563

""One Alacrity server crashed and some threads are 404ing. Ask BOs and volunteers to fix them by posting through mod.php."

Another drive by to force board index rebuild ...

I'm thinking of going to see Richard Dawkins talk before he dies. It's better to spend$35 listening to him than going to a passe concert. I don't enjoy listening to him as much as Hitchens, but that boat has sailed and I don't want to regret seeing him later on.

https://www.centerforinquiry.net/dawkinstour

>>5562

I am religious and love respectful debate. Honestly is very hard debating from a religious side.

they're not, that's like saying "no offense, but your mother is a whore"

Emotion is the primal root of all human action. Action cannot come from pure logic alone. We require drive.

>>5759

>Emotion is the primal root of all human action.

I would argue that emotion is the primal root of all animal action (which humans also are, physically). The higher logic is what is actually Human.

>>5560

>>5562

From a cursory glance, /christian/ is a multi-denominational board, so bear in mind the approach to religion between one poster and the next can be as different as between a Jew and a Muslim. :^)

For example, Catholics have for centuries spent much effort intellectualizing their beliefs and even lean certain philosophical points heavily on classical Greek and Hellenistic schools. As an example, the entry from the Catholic encyclopedia on reason: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12673b.htm

Even newer denominations have complained about a "dumbing down" of beliefs, ie. churches focusing solely on emotional appeals to garner belief (https://ethanrenoe.com/2017/12/06/the-dumbing-down-of-christianity/). Note that in the comment section, however, not one mention is made of Thomas Aquinas or St. Augustine, two of the most influential Christian philosophers.

All in all, if you want your logical and philosophically literate conversation with a Christian, I'd wager you'd have a better discussion with a priest with a graduate degree rather than the average churchgoer or even the average evangelist, who do not have to extensively study the logic and philosophy of their beliefs, if at all.

>>5760

What drives men to think, but emotion?

>>5764

Lower animals also think due the drive of emotion. But their thinking is of a lower order.

For example, some dogs experience anxiety (aka. fear) during thunderstorms, fireworks, or other loud events, driving them to attempt to escape the situation. Humans who have intense phobias can perform similar actions, but humans have also created alternate methods for dealing with such situations due to their more extensive and deeper thinking about the root of their emotional response. One of these alternate methods is the taking of anxiolytic drugs created by other humans - drugs which are even now prescribed by vets to be given to anxious dogs, with similar sucessful emotion modification.

Please do not mistake these statements as me claiming that emotions are bad in humans because they come from a place shared by all physical creatures. Emotions are inspirational, but it is the way that Man thinks about them that makes the difference.