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0b5312 No.5080

I've been spending a lot of time thinking about viewing human existence, at its most fundamental level, as a struggle for permanence.

Immortality itself is essentially impossible, and primarily a fool's dream. But information, passed down from one impermanent vessel to the next, can theoretically achieve permanence.

Therefore, an individual who makes contributions significant enough to become famous and have their story or work documented and passed down for future generations have achieved a level of immortality, or at least permanence.

The ultimate goal would be to achieve popular fame from a historical perspective, so that even thousands of years from your death, your name, or your work, is a household name. Think Alexander the Great.

This of course leads to the moral problem of fame v. infamy, and how to deal with Herostratus copy-cats. Is fame, achieved through immoral means, reprehensible?

Anyways, my point in asking is, is there any documented philosophers who have examined this approach? If not, I'd love to write about it myself, and if there is, I'd quite like to read their work.

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0b5312 No.5082

I can swear I remember this point of view or something close to it. Maybe it was Nietzsche? But he said dying would end your Will to Power while you say it can continue, so not really.

I'm curious too because I hold this point of view too

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ad6140 No.5115

I can't think of anyone of renown who has ever defended vanity.

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12327e No.5299

If humanity is the struggle for permanence, then the goal of philosophy is to figure out how to serenely give up that struggle. Perhaps Siddhartha had some thoughts on this topic...?

Permanence would actually suck. Imagine that every mistake you made was eternal and ineluctable. Every time you hurt yourself, it was a permanent scar. Every time your hand slipped, permanent vandalism. And now all of a sudden you have some appreciation of impermanence.

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fc386f No.5439

>>5299

Which would you rather be, Siddhartha or Buddha?

Both achieved Nirvana, but only one lived on in the teachings they passed down to millions of followers.

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fc386f No.5440

>>5115

It's not vanity. After you're dead, there's no more pride. If it were about you, then you wouldn't care what happened to it after your lifetime.

It's security. Hope. The knowledge that while your life may be a fleeting moment in time, your legacy will love on.

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099d03 No.5450

>>5439

Fame is a cost, not a reward. Read your Epicurus.

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