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Pleasure/Enjoyment Anonymous 05/08/16 (Sun) 07:18:37 fe7209 No.3999

A pretty important part of a human's life I think. Let's discuss it. Though it's also a big subject, so keeping this in one topic might be stupid, but this board doesn't seem to be crawling with posters, so I guess one topic will be enough.

What is pleasure? Why and how do we feel it(I'm also looking for biological answers here if you guys can provide)? And when we feel it, why do we want it to last forever? Should we chase it and try to live our lives with always pleasure, or try to keep away from it as much as possible? How does hedonism affect a man?

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Anonymous 05/09/16 (Mon) 05:17:09 fe7209 No.4000

>>3999

while i lack the facultis to tackle the majority of your questions at the moment, i can at least illuminate a few.

>Should we chase it and try to live our lives with always pleasure, or try to keep away from it as much as possible?

we toil so that we may have leisure, which is to say that we should have leisure in our life, but not banal, sensuous hedonism. the best leisure is the leisure of the best.

i know thats not well thought out but its a starting point.

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A.W. 05/09/16 (Mon) 09:23:36 fe7209 No.4002

>>4000

You'd make a fine interlocutor to our dear friend Socrates.

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Anonymous 07/04/16 (Mon) 19:57:41 fe7209 No.4261

>What is pleasure?

The state you are temporarily in when you meet a want or need.

However this also amounts to boredom as your need has been met and you no longer have the driving force of want/need.

In other words, you are constantly deprived and in pain, pleasure temporally makes you stop suffering; however this is felt by a person as a state of normalcy.

Pleasure is the void left when you eliminate pain. And it feels just like that, a void.

>Why and how do we feel it(I'm also looking for biological answers here if you guys can provide)?

I think you mean neurological, as in dope; though i'm not experienced enough to elaborate.

But philosophically we feel it due to the meeting of our inborn natural impulses (however perverted from nature they may be)

>And when we feel it, why do we want it to last forever?

Because otherwise we are in agonizing pain.

>Should we chase it and try to live our lives with always pleasure, or try to keep away from it as much as possible?

This I do not know.

Up to you really.

>How does hedonism affect a man?

I makes him bored.

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Anonymous 06/20/17 (Tue) 08:08:35 d21600 No.5370

Hedonism is actually the proposition that a man's sensations are sufficient to figure out what's good or not. It's not what a newspaper calls hedonism.

The simplest form is when what feels good is in fact good, and what feels bad is in fact bad, so...

>>4261

>>How does hedonism affect a man?

>I makes him bored.

Newspaper hedonism makes you bored, which feels bad, so newspaper hedonism is bad, according to philosophical hedonism.

Hedonism doesn't have to be this simple, though. (Newspaper hedonism is bad regardless.) There are various kinds of pleasure. Some are more satisfying than others, giving hedonists a hierarchy of positive sensations. It's not hard to unify hedonism and virtue ethics, for example.

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