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812fcc No.1994

so /philosophy/,

was visiting my mom the other week and got into an argument. she thinks that the 2000 year old sand nigger will bitch slap the US with earthquakes because we allow gayfags to marry. i dont care about gay marriage, but i do care about justifying crazy shit with other crazy shit.

heres how the argument went.

>gods gonna shit on the US cuz fags are married!

thats fucking crazy, how do you know that.

>the bible says so

why is the bible true

>because i feel it in my heart to be true

if feelings are the source of truth, then if i feel that Xipe Totec wants me to rape babies and throw them into a volcano, then it is?

how do i better argue against her crazy fucking shit.

pic sorta related, a philosophinx

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812fcc No.1995

I don't think you can change someone's mind who holds those sorts of beliefs with any sort of rational argument

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812fcc No.1996

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>>1994

>Arguing against emotions.

You're fucked.

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812fcc No.1997

>>1994

>the bible says so

That's not even true. Tell her to point out to you exactly where the causal link is made in the Bible. There is condemnation for homosexual acts, but the punishment always came from humans (under Gods orders), not God himself. Aside from Sodom, Gomorrha and the Flood, that is, but those only happened because EVERYONE was messed up, not just because of gays.

If you take away the Bible as a source for her bigotry, she'll be left with the emotional argument. And in that case, just tell her that she can't assume truth from faith or even conviction alone. It's an easy point to make and an easy point to understand. She likely won't listen because of that, but if you want to stay reasonable and not keep quiet it's the way I'd suggest.

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812fcc No.1999

>>1994

Hurricane katrina was punishment for gays, the 16th richest man said so himself, and why doubt authority?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina_as_divine_retribution

I know how you feel. My grandmother believes she could have been electricuted when her costa rican shower malfunctioned and lit on fire, and that it's a miracle she lived, therefore God had a purpose for her (providence). She gets insulted and won't listen when you say, "either that or you just got lucky, like I do every day that I walk down a busy street with cars that could kill me."

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812fcc No.2150

Just tell her that God is not going to destroy the U.S. Other human beings will eventually do that. But anyway, just tell her that God's kingdom is not of this world, and this world will always be a degenerate cesspool. Any decent christian should know that.

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812fcc No.2162

You can ask her if she's ever felt anything in her heart was true and it turned out to be false.

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9168df No.5622

the world will die because humans are slave to material objects

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