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fd7e2c No.1750

I'm fairly new to philosophy and would appreciate it if someone could recommend me some books, lectures etc

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fd7e2c No.1753

>>1750

Why do you care? Do you even have a question you're seeking an answer to?

Two Dogmas of Empiricism by Quine, since we're in an age of blind scientism.

http://www.ditext.com/quine/quine.html

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fd7e2c No.2174

>>1750

Don't laugh but these two books will help get you started. They may seem childish but they will be a great help.

Don't be so enamored with what a particular philosopher has opined but become familiar with the tools of philosophy first.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0974531537?keywords=fallacy%20detective&qid=1445372075&ref_=sr_1_1&s=books&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0974531510?keywords=fallacy%20detective&qid=1445372075&ref_=sr_1_2&s=books&sr=1-2

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fd7e2c No.2183

Different guy here. I am literally overwhelmed with the amount of philosophy literature - there seems to be no consensus on what to read, just a lot of voices screaming ro read everything. I don't have time to wander aimlessly through the shelves of a library . What are some good books that broaden your mind, but don't don't bore you to death?

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fd7e2c No.2186

>>2183

Do you have ANY questions? You can't come asking about "philosophy" and expect anything but fucking everything as an answer. You literally are asking about what you should read about asking.

If you have no questions, then just read anything. Literally anything. Read a couple pages. Does what you're reading interest you? No? Drop it and go read something else. Go to wikipedia and just start hopping from link to link in the philosophy page until you hit something that you actually find interesting and can give two shits about. We can't fucking make you care about anything, and if you have no question to ask we can't tell you what you would find interesting.

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fd7e2c No.2188

>>2183

http://www.amazon.com/Story-Thought-Essential-History-Philosophy/dp/0789444550/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1445464096&sr=1-2&keywords=bryan+magee+the+story+of

If you're completely new this is a bretty good introduction to pretty much every major western philosopher, from the pre-Socratics to the analytics. It's $5.

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fd7e2c No.2189

>>2174

RationalWiki is a good beginners guide to fallacies. The rest of the site belongs in the trash, but the info on logical fallacies is pretty good.

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fd7e2c No.2244

>>2174

top lol, this conveniently ignores that slippery slope has a non-fallacious form as well and even slips in an argument about gun control

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fd7e2c No.3008

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fd7e2c No.3017

>>1750

the writings of epictetus (the enchiridion first), marcus aurelius, socrates, plato( the republic in particular, since pretty much anything else you read is going to reference it heavily), Aristotle, in that order.

i recommend this order because stoicisim is pretty easy to understand, and pretty much everyone else is going to reference the works of plato, aristotle, and socrates so it would be good to read their works first so you understand what theyre talking about.

also you can read all of their works online for free http://classics.mit.edu/Browse/index-Epictetus.html

theres also audiobooks available for these for free, either through youtube or librevox, but most are librevox and librevox has no standards for recording so good luck finding one thats you can stand to listen to. i will say that the apology of socrates is actually decent though.

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fd7e2c No.3019

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>>1750

>Start with the Greeks

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fd7e2c No.3021

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fd7e2c No.3023

>>3019

>>3021

we can post pdfs again? also paperbacks a shit, classics club is where its at

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fd7e2c No.3024

>>3023

Yeah m8

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fd7e2c No.3392

>>3017

Why would he read the Stoics before the Greeks?

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fd7e2c No.3472

>>1750

>>2183

http://plato.stanford.edu/

Think of it as a non-shit philosophical wikipedia. Do be aware though that it's written by actual philosophers who occasionally insert a little bit of bias. In particular it favours analytic philosophy.

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fd7e2c No.3477

>>3392

the stoics were greek you dingus. and i explained why to read it in that order in the very post youre replying to you illiterate gobswain

>i recommend this order because stoicisim is pretty easy to understand, and pretty much everyone else is going to reference the works of plato, aristotle, and socrates so it would be good to read their works first so you understand what theyre talking about.

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fd7e2c No.3510

>>2186

This. If you go to the sticky I think there's a link to a lot of philosophy ideas. Just start clicking. It'll give you broad explanations to each so it won't take too long to read through each one to get the basics of what each focuses on, if you find something interesting, hit Google and just keep reading about it.

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fd7e2c No.3939

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fd7e2c No.4516

>>3472

Why is the standard online encyclopedia hosted in Stanford on the west coast which isn't even that old of a university? You would think a philosophy wiki would be to the east at an older university.

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d7182b No.5350

Just start attempting to prove everything you believe. It doesn't matter if you actually finish, but act as if you intend to finish.

Don't forget to question your assumptions. And then your assumption's assumptions. And then your assumptions about what your assumptions are.

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17c49f No.5712

>>1750

>Start with the Greeks

Also Plutarch.

For the long answer it depends on what field of philosophy you are interested in. Starting in philosophy is like starting in science. The same way you do not science but you are interested in quantum physics or chemistry, the same way you do not philosophy, you can be into morality philosophy, political philosophy, metaphysics, art philosophy and many others. The same way that when you want to understand physics you start with at least a basic understanding of maths, the same way if you want to asses whether or not reality exist you start with the big greek classics; Plato, Aristotle, Epicurus, Marcus Aurelius. If you want easy stuff to start with you can start with political philosophy or morality philosophy, which is usually pretty down to earth so easier to follow: authors like; Machiavelli, Plutarch (his moral treatises), Montaigne.

If you want some hardcore shit that's gonna start with the basic stuff and blow your mind and are not afraid of reading... a lot... you can start with Kant, Plotinus, and if you can read french (I don't think this was ever translated in another language) "Commentaire de la logique d’Aristote" by Thomas d'Aquin

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d7d007 No.6267

Books: "Tao Te Ching" and "Passion of the Western Mind" (a kind of history of western thought).

Lectures: Stephen Hicks on Postmodernism (due to its strange and toxic influence on western society today), in a similar vien the work of Jordan Peterson on similar topics for similar reasons.

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760a19 No.6270

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>>6267

>Unironically suggesting Memerson

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