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d3d61c No.1680

So anon, are you drowning in degeneracy? The people around you scream and consume and destroy themselves, how do you keep to your principles? Anybody got any advice on how to stick to my guns, what with me refraining from both alcohol and sexual intercourse? These being the two biggest issues as I wish to live something of a restrained life. Mostly any hints on how to deflect or avoid situation where i'm likely to give in would be appreciated.

77a496 No.1682

1. Stop denying your animal nature, it's as much you as your mind.

2. Realize that your beliefs are not reality, and that your life is now. Stop giving a fuck.

3. Read some Kierkegaard you pleb.


2b1284 No.1683

>>1682

1. You are not your animal nature. Your rational faculty is separate from your base pleasure seeking desires.

2. Reality is whatever you believe it to be. Preferably a rational person would need evidence to support a belief but this is not necessary.

3.Kierkegaard a shit.


ae9493 No.1684

>>1680

realize you are to them as they are to animals

you are above them by see past the ignorance of society

study them and form a strategy to manipulate them to be better


3366eb No.1685

>>1682

This guy's advice. If you want restraint OP, then go to prison.


2b1284 No.1690

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>>1685

>principled and moraled people belong in prison.

>this is what degenerates believe.


2923f9 No.1692

>>1680

How do they 'destroy' themselves? How is a life of (generous but not extreme) alcohol consumption and (frequent but protected/controlled) intercourse inherently inferior to a life of abstinence? You seem to already have a moralistic stance and a clear view on degenerancy. If you could, please elaborate further on that.

As for your question, I'm not qualified to answer because I don't like alcohol and I'm asexual. But, in case it's of interest, I can say that I'm never quite sure how much of this is my active doing and how much is simply in my nature (I'm very resistent to group pressure, for example, because I don't care about people who value such things as conformity above all else).

That said, a restrained life is definitely easier than one that is not, but that depends on how strong your urges are. Constantly surpressing a primordial force ready to erupt is probably not very healthy both physically and mentally. If you're serious, then avoiding situations in the first place is the best course of action.

Incidentally, sexuality isn't very present in everyday life if you don't actively look for it. Alcohol is more ritualised, but I suspect it's easier to abstain from, too. Good luck to you.

>>1683

Kierkegaard a shit.

Now now, there's no need for that.


bf8048 No.1695

slave morality: the thread


2b1284 No.1704

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>>1692

Just being honest.

>>1695

>slave morality

>living life by your own rules and judgement calls on acceptable and unacceptable behaviour

Choose one.

"No man is free who is not master of himself." - Epictetus


bf8048 No.1714

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>>1704

>afraid of radical freedom


903af1 No.1717

>>1714

What gave you the impression that I'm afraid of "radical freedom". Because i have moral principles for myself? What sense does that make.


000000 No.1723

>>1717

you're afraid to make the most rational choices to meet the challenges of specific situations. instead, you conform to moral guidelines that have no basis in reality and have been dictated by others for you because you can't make decisions for yourself. you are inauthentic - a drone, a slave of conditions outside your control.


67493c No.1730

>>1723

What a trash interpretation. I'm a stoic, for whom my rational faculty reigns supreme. Enjoy your degeneracy and slavish pursuit of bodily pleasures.


000000 No.1732

>>1730

>Enjoy your degeneracy and slavish pursuit of bodily pleasures.

basically saying

>Enjoy your degeneracy and degeneracy

Degeneracy can't exist without a moral system. There are no objective moral systems.

I won't conform to you or your culture's conception of the good life, without valid reason.

I'll live life the way I want to, with radical freedom.

Good day, sir.


67493c No.1735

>>1732

Who is asking you? You're the one jumping in the thread judging other people's ways of living and acting as if you yourself dont deserve some judgement in return.

Live as you like, it doesn't matter to me.


67493c No.1736

>>1732

as an aside, Slavish pursuit of bodily pleasures is not limited to purely sex either. Any sensation can be a bodily pleasure. Eating, drinking, sleeping, anything your body begs you for and you acquiesce ay a moments notice. That is being a slave in my eyes.




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