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 No.9061>>9064 >>9067 >>9101 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

So I've been on nofap for the entirety of 2017. Didn't have sex either and just buried myself in work.

I broke streak for research purposes 2 weeks ago to test how quick I would come and managed to cum to some pics without any stroking at all.

Got a date lined up this weekend and am worried… The social part shouldn't be an issue but holy shit if more happens, how on earth do I prevent jizzing instanty?

After 4 full months of nofap I just know I will jizz the very instance she just comes anywhere near my dick.

Do you all just accept this? Do you tell new partners, oh btw I will cum instantly lol don't worry tho I have superhuman nofap powers?

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 No.9064>>9066

>>9061 (OP)

| It should be clear now that nofap and sexual relationships have no synergy and work against each other. If you wanna have infrequent sex on nofap you'd better get used to the idea of fucking for your pleasure and only your pleasure because you're guaranteed to nut in 60 seconds max

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 No.9066>>9072

>>9064

That sucks pretty hard though. Being highly likely to fail at sex kindof negates the whole newly won confidence we like to praise around here.

Hell even a long term relationship with low frequency of sex like once every 1-2 weeks would be affected by this. Sure you'll be horny enough to go for a second round after and actually perform but thats pretty weird with a new girl after having busted instantly the first time around

What do you guys do? just jerk off before meeting? Thats should somewhat fix it but I want to stay true to nofap…

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 No.9067>>9068

>>9061 (OP)

Maybe you should stop sticking your dick in everything

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 No.9068>>9069

>>9067

Serious? I didnt have sex in like 8 months now

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 No.9069

>>9068

To be clear Im trying to find a longterm relationship but if a date goes that way or I meet someone by chance I sure as hell wont be turning it down for some /pol/-chastity meme

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 No.9072

>>9066

>Being highly likely to fail at sex kindof negates the whole newly won confidence we like to praise around here

| Only in the kind of sad creature that derives confidence and self-worth primarily from interactions with the opposite sex

>Hell even a long term relationship with low frequency of sex like once every 1-2 weeks would be affected by this

Nofap that incorporates sex isn't really nofap and doesn't seem to have any purpose beside normalizing dopamine function a little bit and abstaining from a possible porn addiction

>What do you guys do? just jerk off before meeting?

Don't associate with women and don't fuck

>To be clear Im trying to find a longterm relationship but if a date goes that way or I meet someone by chance I sure as hell wont be turning it down for some /pol/-chastity meme

Fap then fuck if you wanna get high off of love and fuck. Alternatively fuck multiple times. Combining nofap with sex isn't real nofap so you shouldn't worry about being perfectionistic

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 No.9073>>9075 >>9076

>>9070

But anon I'm trying to have a family at some point. That's hard without having a gf and sex at some point.

>derives confidence and self-worth primarily from interactions with the opposite sex

No matter how confident you are failing miserably in bed will fuck with you regardless of how independent you are.

>Combining nofap with sex isn't real nofap

such BS. You sound very bitter.

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 No.9075>>9076 >>9077 >>9078

>>9073

>But anon I'm trying to have a family at some point. That's hard without having a gf and sex at some point

| You may find that to be a mistake and a suboptimal life strategy

>No matter how confident you are failing miserably in bed will fuck with you regardless of how independent you are

True. If you have your priorities and hormones straight you should bounce back from the injury pretty quickly

>such BS. You sound very bitter

Not really. It all depends on what you're doing nofap for. If you think you can repeatedly break orgasm abstinence and semen retention and still get the superpowers that people report on nofap unfortunately you're mistaken. If you're doing nofap for some religious reason, have a porn addiction, or want to increase dopamine sensitivity a little bit then having mild to moderate amounts of sex isn't going to affect anything negatively

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 No.9076

>>9073

>>9075

| But to add on to that point: having mild to moderate amounts of porn-free fapping isn't going to affect anything negatively either. Fapping with a body instead of your hand isn't going to protect you from the effects you're putting upon your body

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 No.9077>>9079

>>9075

Its called noFAP, as in no fapping. You are mistaking nofap with monkmode. Sex is not fapping with a body, its sex.

>You may find that to be a mistake and a suboptimal life strategy

Are you MGTOW? Having a family and passing on your genes is what evolution built and optimized us for and therefore is the best way to a fulfilling life. Provided you find a non-degenerate wife.

Also I quite strongly believe that its important to counteract the decreasing numbers of the white European population. I'm planning on having at least 3 kids tbh and I need peak performance to achieve my goals monetarily in order to provide for that and will not waste any energy on fapping or porn.

>having mild to moderate amounts of porn-free fapping isn't going to affect anything negatively either.

And neither will sex.

We are offtopic though. Any anons around who manage long streaks without premature ejaculating?

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 No.9078

>>9075

> think you can repeatedly break orgasm abstinence and semen retention and still get the superpowers that people report on nofap unfortunately you're mistaken.

Also I'm doing good, just did 5 months and will have no issue nofapping for the rest of the year and beyond. Nofap already increased my discipline and productiveness by magnitudes so please fuck off with your high horse trying to tell me I'm not doing it right. I'd bet most on this board never got to 5 months.

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 No.9079>>9080

>>9077

>Its called noFAP, as in no fapping. You are mistaking nofap with monkmode

| You can call it whatever you want. You're either getting something out of it or you're not

>Sex is not fapping with a body, its sex

Sex has the same negative effects on the body as fapping and is only offset by very temporary positive effects

>Are you MGTOW?

Yes

>Having a family and passing on your genes is what evolution built and optimized us for and therefore is the best way to a fulfilling life

Is that what you've heard or is that what you know?

>and I need peak performance to achieve my goals monetarily in order to provide for that and will not waste any energy on fapping or porn

>And neither will sex

When I said it won't affect anything negatively I was referring to:

>If you're doing nofap for some religious reason, have a porn addiction, or want to increase dopamine sensitivity

If you frequently break orgasm abstinence and semen retention you will not be having peak performance to achieve your goals and will be setting yourself back a great deal unnecessarily

>so please fuck off with your high horse trying to tell me I'm not doing it right

Once again it all depends on what your goals are. I'm still not sure what they are so you may be doing your version of nofap correctly to get the benefits you want

>I'd bet most on this board never got to 5 months

My best is 102 days. Well done on the streak

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 No.9080>>9081 >>9082

>>9079

>Is that what you've heard or is that what you know?

It's obvoulsly true. The only reason we get horny is because evolution "wants" us to have sex, and not because of a short dopamine rush during sex, which really is just a short term motivator, but because under the original circumstances there is no contraception and and therefore there will be offspring.

There can be no better feeling than having grown old and knowing you provided well for your descendants and they are out in the word doing their thing. All the financial freedom, free time, freedom of responsibilites in the world can't buy that feeling.

As MGTOW you will know well of the anti male propaganda the powers that be are attacking us with. By signing off and blaming women for being easily influenced by this propaganda you are giving the enemy what they want and letting them win. You are letting them take that feeling from you. Thousands of generations used their birthright to pass on their genes and you are letting a bunch of sniveling money grabbing subhuman commies take it from you.

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 No.9081>>9083 >>9085 >>9087

>>9080

>There can be no better feeling than having grown old and knowing you provided well for your descendants and they are out in the word doing their thing

I'd argue that's only the final true pleasure available to a human who's forgotten how to live and have a good time on their own and consequently lives vicariously through another. This too is part of evolution's design, but it's not necessarily a path that needs to be followed to maximize pleasure and happiness. There are many joys in life before childbirth that far surpass it, it only becomes a relatively great feeling at a certain age

>By signing off and blaming women for being easily influenced by this propaganda you are giving the enemy what they want and letting them win

They have their victory, I have mine

>You are letting them take that feeling from you

If I was convinced that was the best way to maximize pleasure I'd decide to do it too

>Thousands of generations used their birthright to pass on their genes and you are letting a bunch of sniveling money grabbing subhuman commies take it from you

I don't care if the psychopaths win or lose; I only care that I win. Childbirth is obviously extremely enjoyable and pleasuarble, the problem always lies in choosing the right woman. Unfortunately if you get to know actual women in the long term instead of the relationships with and perceptions of them in the short term it becomes increasingly clear that the NAWALT required to make a family a positive prospect instead of a negative prospect is a fiction. The skills and time investment required to make sure that you actually have a NAWALT and that she's not going to do do a 180 once she's locked in is unavailable to the vast majority of men and every family I see is proof of that when I see the subtle toxicities involved in them

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 No.9082

>>9080

Also I don't believe women are shitty because of any kind of propaganda effort. I believe evolution and nature aren't anybody's friends and women's shittiness is just another design in a natural system trying to survive and thrive

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 No.9083>>9084 >>9088

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>>9081

>maximize pleasure

Convincing normies that lifes goal is the maximization of pleasure is one of their tricks. Using the pursuit of (fun) as the main motivator for decisions is a surefire way towards unhappiness.

You are singing their song.

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 No.9084>>9087

>>9083

| Pleasure, not fun. If your overall pleasure isn't secured the reckless pursuit of fun will lead to low pleasure and unhappiness

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 No.9085>>9086

>>9081

>If I was convinced that was the best way to maximize pleasure I'd decide to do it too

This is hilarious. A hedonist talking up the benefits of avoiding porn and sex.

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 No.9086

>>9085

>This is hilarious. A hedonist talking up the benefits of avoiding porn and sex

Pleasure works funny. The stuff that makes you feel best in bursts makes you feel worse in general, and the stuff that's uncomfortable and painful makes you feel better in general. Cake makes you feel shit, weights make you feel cash

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 No.9087>>9089

>>9084

I actually had that post written out with pleasure instead of fun but changed it because I don't like to use the same word near each other in a text. IMO same thing. Go ahead and pursue fun/pleasure and scold women by not fucking but don't claim its a win like you did in >>9081

MGTOW equals capitulation

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 No.9088>>9090

>>9083

Sauce?

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 No.9089>>9091

>>9087

>Go ahead and pursue fun/pleasure and scold women by not fucking but don't claim its a win like you did in

I'm the only happy person I know and everyone around me is making themselves unhappy so I'm gonna go ahead and claim it's a win

>MGTOW equals capitulation

We'll see how things turn out

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 No.9090

>>9088

Leader of some Australian nationalist organisation according to another anon. I searched for source myself but could find it yet

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 No.9091>>9093

>>9089

>We'll see how things turn out

Whats there to see? Followers of MGTOW will live inconsequential lives and die at some point while the genes of true men will live on for thousands of generations and see a time where white European civilisation goes terraforming throughout the galaxy.

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 No.9093>>9094

>>9091

>true men will live on for thousands of generations and see a time where white European civilisation goes terraforming throughout the galaxy

| True men are dinosaurs and whites are dying out lol

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 No.9094>>9095

>>9093

My descendants will see how things turn out.

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 No.9095

>>9094

| Godspeed caucasioid. Just remember it'll only take a couple tyrones to make your descendants mocha and then the dream is deader than disco

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 No.9097>>9100 >>9109 >>9125

I have no issue when people say that sex is 100% not harmful and ok, even if I disagree.

But what's really obnoxious is when people try to say you're hurting yourself by not having sex and not spending your life trying to get into women's pants, like seriously frig off shill.

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 No.9100>>9107

>>9097

>But what's really obnoxious is when people try to say you're hurting yourself by not having sex and not spending your life trying to get into women's pants

| I don't think anyone in this thread is saying that anon

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 No.9101

>>9061 (OP)

>Do you tell new partners, oh btw I will cum instantly lol don't worry tho I have superhuman nofap powers?

Yes, but I am very lucky. I have been capable of calculating the exact time it would take me to cum after penetration: 6.7 seconds.

I tell every girl that I date that, right after "hi".

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 No.9107>>9108 >>9109

>>9100

nice dubs, but you're not fooling anyone.

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 No.9108

>>9107

| You find deceptions in their absence anon. I keeps it reals 365

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 No.9109>>9110

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>>9107

>>9097

There's a MGTOW pro absolute chastity in this thread and a natsoc pro traditional big families.

None of which advocated spending your life trying to get into women's pants.

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 No.9110

>>9109

>Absolute chastity

I like that that's got a supervillain ring to it

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>>9097

>he'' hit 60

>he'll be on his deathbed

>he'll be completely alone

>the nurse is busy fucking an injured veteran

>the doctor is home, fucking his wife

>"a-a-at least I'm PURE", Anon utters as life fades away from him

>he spent 60 years being envious of others and playing crabs in a bucket

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