/nofap/ - Fappers Anonymous★

Steroid users compensate for their constant drop in testosterone from over-ejaculation. When the body recognizes exogenous testosterone, it further downregulates its own production(negative feedback loop) as a response.

Juicers often have to be on TRT for the rest of their lives since they do double damage to their hypothalamus-pituitary-testicular axis with excessive ejaculation and exogenous testosterone.

Why were people of antiquity depicted as fucking jacked and with small penis? Because small penis was a symbol of self-control. It is starved in favor of higher goals. The hypersexual man has blood pumping to his penis constantly, but achieves little else. His brain is like a dried out sponge, his body composition weak, and his spiritual life nonexistent.

>>8605 (OP)

lol dude you're going off the rails on a crazy train and I'm not sure if you're serious. The slight increase in testosterone that nofap gives you reaches a peak and plateaus between 7-14 days; it's not a gradual thing that keeps increasing. If you continued to increase testosterone by spending more time retaining semen then buddhist monks would be animalistic sex-crazed lunatics. Nofap is gonna have almost no effect on muscular gains at all

>>8621

>slight

Go wank thou wanker

It is NOT slight

>>8621

>implying they are not

If theyre pure they can be reborn in plesure real fo constsnt sex before nirvana.

Budha said mundane motivations are valid, monks are hypersexual

>>8629

>>8605 (OP)

anon, hormones are middle-school level biology that doesn't need prior knowledge.

please look it up, it's quite easy, probably won't take you more than half an hour.

the only thing more dangerous than ignorance is half knowledge

>>8607

as much as I agree with you anin, one thing bothers me:

my penis actually had a drop in growth in the years where i'd been fapping like maniac

>>8833

Over-ejaculating is the same result as vigorous exercise. Both use up hormones and other nutrients. The difference is that with exercise, you transmute it into something while with masturbation you just deplete yourself for nothing.

In this regard, extreme exercise is a sacrifice. To have a functional sex life, one must make sure that the muscles are not developing too many androgen receptors that compete with the penis. Of course it depends on priority. A warrior would easily prioritize his muscles for a sub-par sex-life. This is a position of valor.

It is possible to have both. An athletic body and a powerful sexual function. But that requires that there are not too many androgen receptors developed in the muscles(through hypertrophy) to compete with the penis.

Bottom line: penis shrinks when the hormones and nutrients go elsewhere. Atrophy happens either from over-use, or from complete abstinence. It all depends.

Taoists agree that complete abstinence from ejaculation is harmful. Ejaculating once every 14 days unlocks the hypothalamus-pituitary-testicular axis and avoids the shutting down of the semen production.

I have shared a personal theory before on this forum, that prostate cancer is a western phenomenon due to visual overstimulation from scandidly clad women. When the man is visually stimulated all the time, the prostate constantly works to prepare him to reproduce. With the constant over-production of semen, the ejaculation urgency also increases. Add to that the doctor recommendation of ejaculating for prostate health, and you have the recipe for disaster.

Under normal conditions, the prostate is not overstimulated from visual cues, like today. But even now, the benefit of relieving pressure is made void by the fact that the overworked prostate swells from over-use, both from overproducing semen and from daily ejaculation.

This is why men with prostate problems have weak urination, because the swelling prostate actually interferes with urine flow by pushing against the urinary tract.

The aging man never gives his prostate a chance to recover from swelling and inflammation. This is the core issue IMO. The doctors advice is upside down.

Of course, abstaining from ejaculation is almost impossible if one is constantly stimulated visually, which happens in the western world. This is a form of vampirism on both levels: physical and spiritual. It is almost necessary to be a hermit or a monk in order to achieve retention longer than a couple days.

I'm sure the people here who are successful in long streaks take care not to expose themselves to visual stimuli.

>>8849

>In this regard, extreme exercise is a sacrifice. To have a functional sex life, one must make sure that the muscles are not developing too many androgen receptors that compete with the penis. Of course it depends on priority. A warrior would easily prioritize his muscles for a sub-par sex-life. This is a position of valor.

The penis is equally sensitive whether you're thin or muscled up.

what you said makes no sense!

>>8849

>I have shared a personal theory before on this forum, that prostate cancer is a western phenomenon due to visual overstimulation from scandidly clad women. When the man is visually stimulated all the time, the prostate constantly works to prepare him to reproduce. With the constant over-production of semen, the ejaculation urgency also increases. Add to that the doctor recommendation of ejaculating for prostate health, and you have the recipe for disaster.

i live in the west, and did nofap for 170 days

Now my doctors says my prostate got swollen up.

maybe what you say IS true

>>8896

Heavy exercises that induce hypertrophy increase the androgen receptors in the muscle tissue. These compete with the receptors in the penis. There is only so much testosterone circulating in the body.

Big muscles drain testosterone. Sexual activity also drains testosterone. How one balances those depends on preferences. But when one aspect is overemphasized, the other suffers.

Bodybuilders go on TRT usually in their 30s. They have so many androgen receptors in their muscles that the natural testosterone production, which is often destroyed from steroid use, can't satisfy. The penis has to compete with that too, so they get impotent.

Too big muscles uses too much of the testosterone budget to allow the penis enough for optimal function(rock hard erections).

>>8897

Have you been exposed to sexually stimulating visual input? If so, the prostate will work hard to prepare you to reproduce. Without having released in that long, it was probably inflamed a bit.

Either way, it was probably nowhere as bad as with the chronic ejaculators.This is the vicious cycle: Prostate works all the time from visual stimulus, then ejaculation urgency from the stimulation causes masturbation which swells the prostate. New visual stimulation in addition to the already tender prostate from previous ejaculation + doctors advice of ejaculating daily will urge another ejaculation. Since the prostate hasn't had the time to reduce swelling, it will keep increasing. Visual stimulus can override the natural refractory period since it is more extreme than what we encounter in nature, but it depends if the dopamine can overpower the prolactin, which is the hormone responsible for refractory period.

Men with prostate problems report the feeling of a "golf ball" around the perineum area. That is the extremely swollen prostate.

It is unlikely that yours swelled up that much unless you were exposed to a lot of visual stimulus during your abstinence and had erections all the time with penis rubbing on underwear, which is like sexual stimulation.

The erection rubbing the underwear is a huge problem, because it's basically masturbation. So you're involuntarily edging. Usually for the chronic masturbator, he rarely has spontaneous erections. But once a person stops that, erections return furiously and it can become a problem.

The religious saying "guard your eyes" is very wise. Even European women would wear head scarves in the past. Half-naked women is a relatively new phenomenon thanks to americanization. Prostate cancers were not common in the past either, because there was not much visual stimulus in daily life and people were preoccupied with survival first and foremost.

Those are just theories of mine, but when you consider them in relation to the sexual function and how inflammation occurrs from overstimulation, it makes a lot of sense.