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 No.4653>>4657 >>4660 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

 No.4656

Your pic is nothing but a big "no u". Television alone is being shown to have an effect on children for quite some time.

http://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_media_television_brain_violence

So imagine what porn alone will do to you.

Furthermore, the "myth" of sex addiction will not answer the question of learning and performing wrong and unnatural sex acts through the use of porn, and having more than one sex partner, in marriage, namely all those super-strains of bacterias and diseases increasing in frequency, all caused by genital contact:

https://archive.is/pUQEo

http://archive.is/aDjZf

http://archive.is/RHav2


 No.4657>>4665

>>4653 (OP)

The seond to last paragraph acknowledges that porn addiction is a real thing and nofap can be beneficial. It's just saying the official NoFap Ted talks may be questionable.

You can get addicted to anything, people get addicted to facebook or television. Only a kike shill would argue that pornography is magically exempt from this principle.


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 No.4661

>my anonymous psychology professor

obvious jewish surname


 No.4665>>4668 >>4756 >>4760

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>>4657

>You can get addicted to anything, people get addicted to facebook or television. Only a kike shill would argue that pornography is magically exempt from this principle.

Isn't that what he's saying in his "Dopamine and brain re-wiring section"? He says there are no evidence that porn, sex and internet addiction causes changes to the human reward system, according to the "general consensus of his entire mental health/medical community" or whatever it is.

Talking of kikes, you're going to love the 7th to last paragraph:

>It doesn't mean that there's anything particularly harmful about internet porn (studies show that for most people, porn has no lasting negative effects - one European study showed it can even have positive effects).

>Porn use can also be part of a healthy sex life (on your own or with partners)

Sure, let me just invite my girlfriend to watch cuck porn with me. Maybe one day we can increase dosage and have a real black man fuck her while I watch and masturbate, right? Real healthy relationship material right there, right?!

These librul university professors man.


 No.4666

How thick do you have to be to think that porn doesn't have a negative effect on people?


 No.4667>>4804

Nothing kills nofap. Some people are skilled at making lies seem like truths. But The facts are there. Even if NoFap is wrong, is there really any facts that fapping is improving people's lives? Is here any thing wrong with nofap really, other than that prostate health thing that always gets taken way out of proportion?


 No.4668

>>4665

The whole article, excluding a few sentences near the end, essentially makes the assumption that porn consumption exists in a vacuum, that there are no external factors that would push someone to use porn rather than forming more natural sexual relationships. That people who may be using porn in an unhealthy way don't exist.

Then there are a handful of sentences near the end like "w-well I guess if someone was depressed, couldn't get into a real relationship, or is using porn as a coping mechanism in some other way then maybe porn addiction could be a thing and there could be a negative effect".

Like, no shit Chaim.

The author tries to avoid the entire demographic of nofappers and then makes a footnote about "oh, by the way, under x situations nothing I've said above would apply". Then he tries to even downplay that by saying "o-oh but exercising would help you even more goyim! start exercising and keep fapping to traps goy! don't reproduce! heh heh heh."


 No.4672

I understand if someone defends masturbation and calls that healthy but it's fucking obnoxious when someone defends porn.


 No.4756

>>4665

>general consensus of his entire mental health/medical community

I see no reason to trust the mental health community. I was depressed from age 15-20 and went through a series of psychologists, psychiatrists, and drugs but the thing that got me better was to gain self-respect and confidence. Only you can decide to make yourself better, and "experts" won't help you do that any more than a trusted friend or family member.


 No.4760>>4782

>>4665

>setting up a strawman

You really blew them the fuck out, didn't you lad? Keep it up and one day you'll be ready to tackle a real argument.


 No.4782

>>4760

>Attention to attractive alternatives can be detrimental to relationships. With the growth of the pornography industry, it is important to consider the effects this material has on relationships. Our research suggests a powerful association between pornography consumption and increased attractiveness of alternative partners---an association that has direct implications for intimate extradyadic behavior.

http://www.fincham.info/papers/2013pornalternativesextrabehaviorsppsfinal.pdf

>Our hypothesis was supported as pornography consumption predicted greater infidelity, as assessed by hooking up and as assessed in a more general manner. Furthermore, commitment mediated the relationship between pornography consumption and both hooking up and infidelity and the relationship between pornography consumption and commitment was mediated by hooking up and infidelity. Thus, it appears that pornography consumption is not only related to weakened commitment in relationships, but that there are high-risk, behavioral consequences to the decreased commitment associated with pornography consumption.

http://www.fincham.info/papers/2012-porn.pdf

>Recent research suggests that this flood of visual stimulation may amplify men’s evolved drive for casual sex. In a recent study, for example, Wright found that men who use porn are more likely to have multiple partners and extramarital sex.

>“Is it just that people who like casual sex gravitate to pornography? I didn’t find that to be the case in a follow-up study,” says Wright. “Viewing pornography was associated with increases in casual sex, but the reverse wasn't true---casual sex didn't predict pornography use.”

>Wright’s findings are in line with what psychologists call “sexual script theory,” the widely studied notion that what we watch becomes our definition and even our expectation of normal sex.

>Think of it as an internal rehearsal: “People look at other people as behavioral models, gaining an idea of how a specific sexual encounter is supposed to go---‘that is what I need to do to experience that kind of pleasure,’” says Elizabeth Morgan, Ph.D., an assistant professor of psychology at Boise State University. “We don’t typically watch other people in the bedroom, so it’s often through sexually explicit media that these scripts are presented to us.”

>The natural reaction, says Bridges, is to assume immunity---that the depictions in porn may influence other people’s desires but not your own. “People consistently say, ‘It’s not going to affect me,’ about a number of things, including political persuasion and advertising,” says Bridges. “But we’re being impacted all the time by what we consume with our eyes and ears and brains. There’s no question.”

https://archive.fo/Tz9jA#selection-1731.0-1751.218

http://econtent.hogrefe.com/doi/abs/10.1027/1864-1105/a000063?journalCode=zmp

I'll strawman all I want, buddy. You can't stop me.


 No.4791

>And besides, what's wrong with "bizarre porn", as long as everybody in it is consenting and it's ethically produced?

It's really easy to detect this kind of people.


 No.4804

>>4667

>other than that prostate health thing that always gets taken way out of proportion

I'm curious about this. Can someone explain the whole deal about "masturbation good against prostate cancer" claim.


 No.4807

Looks like you're in the mindset where you selectively try to find arguments to fap. Perhaps you are not ready yet. You must be really, really sick of it to succeed.

If you are fucking sick of spilling your seed to pixels on a screen and becoming weaker each time, then nofap is for you. If you haven't suffered enough, or been in limbo long enough, then keep running in the hamster wheel.

I'm not even saying the arguments are not legit. I'm noticing a pattern in a lot of posts here.

You do it for you. That means YOU have to be at the place where you know from experience that fapping keeps you stuck. Perhaps if you're 17 or 18 years old you haven't suffered enough yet.

When you approach 30 and find that you spent your 20s fapping instead of seeking out a woman to start a family with, you'll likely begin to consider it a problem.

It's better if it never gets that bad. When you fap, you kill the motivation to go out and find a suitable woman by artificial means. You conquer a woman that doesn't exist, because you get off to a representation, a mere reproduction of a real world person.

Do whatever the fuck you want. Suffer the amount needed, and then you'll decide what is right for yourself. When you've had enough of brain fog, lethargy and feeling like a zombie, then you can try nofap.




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