/nofap/ - Fappers Anonymous★

It's not unusual. According to that other video, your brain becomes over-sensitized after about a week of no fapping. You just have to hang in there a little while longer. Consider installing porn-blockers, especially for those periods.

Concerning relapses, I think you should just work yourself up the discipline to do a physical activity not related to computers and without too much thinking, (ex: going out for a walk). I'm saying "without too much thinking", because it's easy for urges to infiltrate once you start feeling some boredom and start spacing out. That's usually where relapses might begin.

Once you've established an activity for yourself, you'll just have to work the will to pre-emptively shut down any flare-ups and mechanically move towards doing this activity before your hand reaches for your groin.

All this is easier said than done, of course. It really comes down on your own personal perception of the world and how much you want to change on your end. If you don't have a cutting-edge conviction to change, believe me you're gonna have a lot of trouble doing nofap. A guy having no passion, motivation or drive is really fighting an uphill battle.

Personally, I only started getting seriously into nofap once I thought about slowly becoming a person like my father, who is an extremely impotent man who wastes hundreds of dollars a month on alcohol, looking at porn on our family computer, compulsively lying and basically unable to control his own damn self and his urges, causing a lot of stress to my hard-working mother who already has the rest of the family to take care of.

If maybe you can find something to push you on, it'll stretch your nofap journey out a bit longer like it did for me. Until then, just don't be too hard on yourself for not changing. These things usually take time to happen.

>>3240

>A guy having no passion, motivation or drive is really fighting an uphill battle

That's precisely it tbh, I used to be very ambitious and driven and determined 2 years ago though but that changed recently. I'm still trying to get back to it since ambition never truly "dies" completely in a person, it can always be revived.

How do I become a more passionate, motivated and driven person?

I was thinking about doing push ups, which I now do everyday, but they only take me 5 minutes (25 per set, 1 minute break in between sets, 100 total) and also about going to sleep very, very early (8-9 in the evening, when I get tired and the urge(s) creep up).

My dad was in the same boat. Haven't talked to him in years but the damage is done. He works 5 hours a day, for the government, used to get paid loads but now gets paid fuck all, is happy with that, drinks and smokes every day (but doesnt get drunk) - overall he's just a self-decaying mess; the problem is that I copied that lifestyle, it's been imprinted on me (that's how psychology and parenting works) so I am now trying to get away from that as much as possible. It's difficult though; the best I can describe it is by likening it to someone who's been in WW2 and is now trying to overcome his daily nightmares and his PTSD. It's possible but difficult since those things become pretty much habits.

I should mention I've been in therapy for 2 years. That helped but recently I've found it hard to do what he advises me, even though everything he mentions is for my own good and part of a process of changing myself into a different person. Even for that I can't find much motivation or drive. Any tips or ideas?

>>3239 (OP)

>short window (seconds) where I still have control and consciousness

It helps to try to forcibly expand this window. Delete your porn collection, install porn filters, don't put yourself in a position where you have headphones, privacy, a computer and tissues all ready to go at a moment's notice. If you're bored, try reading a book outside or exercising away from your fap environment, your fap environment can be a trigger all by itself.

Avoiding triggers is ideal but in today's world it's pretty unrealistic. Your willpower is being tested and exercised in that "window" and that's what you need to concentrate on.

>>3249

It's not even so much about the fapping, I actually actively delay fapping as much as possible so I can get more dopamine from porn and more pleasure from it.

Yes, it sounds pathetic actually. I blueball myself for hours so I can watch porn. Oh boy…

>Delete your porn collection

I don't have any, just websites.

>install porn filters

I tried, numerous times (leech block).

I always bypassed it, going so far as to re-install firefox just to get rid of leech block.

>don't put yourself in a position where you have headphones, privacy, a computer

Unfortunately due to real life constraints, that's 24 hours a day for me right now.

>If you're bored, try reading a book outside or exercising away

That's a good thought. I should go for a walk, do more push ups or read something, or hell just stand up and walk around or w/e. Thanks for the suggestion.

>It helps to try to forcibly expand this window. Your willpower is being tested and exercised in that "window" and that's what you need to concentrate on.

This is a good idea, I didn't think about this before.

I'll try to do this too, thanks for that.

I think I'm addicted to being depressed and regretful tbh. I should work on that.

Any suggestions as to what thoughts or mentality I should have to combat the urges?

I tried "this is degeneracy and I don't want to be part of it" and "I don't want to do this to myself, I want to respect myself and improve myself". I could try harder with the latter tbh but they don't seem to work; the "muh pleasure" (dopamine rush) is too tempting and strong.

Use adblock to block triggers. Usually it's some lewd video thumbnail that triggers me and I start looking for porn. But you have to be quick, don't stare, just right click and block instantly.

If you are serious about quitting but don't have normal life to get your dopamine levels to an 'okay' level then I would advise self aversion therapy. Take a piece of rope/belt and strike yourself on the back whenever an urge comes. By inflicting pain you will train your brain to not repeat the behaviour and when the pain stops you get a dopamine release. It really helps even when you have your pants pulled down and have dick in your hand, you just need that little tiny bit of self control for the first strike. Obviously it's better to kill it in the bud so do it as soon as you get triggered.

I can kill my boner and make porn thoughts go away with this technique immediately. I think I started doing this like 2 weeks ago and haven't fapped since. I had moments when I looked at porn but the urges became much more managable, for example I don't get triggered as easily by a video thumbnail and when I stare at porn I usually get bored after 10 minutes and just close it.

Also you should quit video games. Vidya create frustration when you lose and give you an urge to fap. If you HAVE TO play then play singleplayer games and don't torture yourself with hard difficulty, you are not proving anything by beating the game on hard, it's a fucking game and losing less means less frustration.

Yeah, in Firefox go to about:config and then search permissions.default.image and change it from 1 to 2. That will block all the images. Which is really helpful, as there are a lot of random triggers on the Internet.

>>3301

But how would I browse b8chan then?

>>3358

You wouldn't browse it because it's loaded with porno

>>3239 (OP)

Look up pattern breaks. Short for time so I cannot go into detail, but this should help you out.

>>3396

>Listen to the music charts -- do you know what’s number one at the moment? No, me neither. Find out; amaze your colleagues.

i hope this isn't what you meant cause this is some serious pathetic jewish shit