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Viewing porn shrinks the brain: Researchers find first possible link between viewing pornography and physical harm

Study showed striatum was smaller the more porn someone had viewed

The striatum is a brain region linked with motivation and reward response

For the study, Dr Kuhn and her colleague Jurgen Gallinat from Charite University, also in Berlin, recruited 64 healthy men between the ages of 21 and 45 years and asked them questions about their porn-watching habits.

They also took images of the men’s brains to measure volume and to see how their brains reacted to pornographic pictures, says the study published in JAMA Psychiatry journal (must credit).

They found noticeable differences in the men who abstained compared with those who regularly accessed sexual videos or images.

Dr Kuhn said ‘We found that the volume of the so-called striatum, a brain region that has been associated with reward processing and motivated behaviour was smaller the more pornography consumption the participants reported.

‘Moreover we found that another brain region, that is also part of the striatum that is active when people see sexual stimuli, shows less activation the more pornography participants consumed.’

However other researchers claimed that pornography in moderation was probably not damaging.

‘Dr Gregory Tau of the Columbia University, said: ‘Everything is going to be bad in excess and it’s probably not terrible in moderation.’

Dr Tau, who was not involved with the study, said more research was needed, in particular longer studies to determine whether porn leads to brain changes.

He said ‘It is possible that there are individuals with a certain kind of brain that are more susceptible to these kinds of behaviours.

‘Or, it’s possible it’s the excessive use (of porn) that’s perpetuating itself to causing brain changes. Or, it could be both.’

Dr Kuhn said other behaviours, such as driving a taxi are linked to changes in brain size and functioning.

‘Basically everything that people do very frequently can shape their brain structure and function’ she added.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2642712/Does-watching-porn-make-LAZY-X-rated-content-shrink-region-brain-linked-motivation-study-claims.html

Porn May 'Shut Down' Part of Your Brain

Watching pornography would seem to be a vision-intensive task. But new research finds that looking at erotic movies can actually quiet the part of the brain that processes visual stimuli.

Most of the time, watching movies or conducting any other visual task sends extra blood flow to this brain region. Not so when the movies are explicit, the researchers found. Instead, the brain seems to shunt blood — and therefore energy — elsewhere, perhaps to regions of the brain responsible for sexual arousal.

Turns out, the brain may not need to take in all the visual details of a sex scene, said study researcher Gert Holstege, a uroneurologist at the University of Groningen Medical Center in the Netherlands.

"If you look, for example, at your computer and you have to write something or whatever, then you have to look specifically and carefully at what you're doing because if you don't, it means you make mistakes," Holstege told LiveScience. "But the moment you are watching explicit sexual movies, that's not necessary, because you know exactly what's going on. It's not important that the door is green or yellow."

Anxiety vs. arousal

The brain can either be anxious or aroused (or neither), Holstege said, but not both. During orgasm, he has found, activity in brain regions associated with anxiety plummets. This phenomenon may explain why women with low levels of sexual desire often have high levels of anxiety, Holstege said. It makes sense; if you're looking around, focusing on visual details, scanning for danger, it may not be so easy to focus on arousal, he said. [The Sex Quiz: Myths, Taboos and Bizarre Facts]

"If you yourself are in a very dangerous situation, whatever the reason, you don't have sexual feelings, because you have to survive for yourself, not survive for the species," Holstege said.

Brain-scan research had previously turned up hints that explicit sexual images might quiet a brain area called Brodmann's area 17, also called the primary visual cortex, a region that does the first processing of incoming visual information in the brain. The data was spotty, however, and no one had looked into the question in women's brains.

http://www.livescience.com/19755-porn-shut-visual-brain.html

Watching Porn Linked To Less Gray Matter In The Brain

To answer that question, German researchers recruited 64 men between the ages of 21 and 45 who watched an average of four hours of pornography per week. The researchers did MRI scans of men’s brains while showing them a mixture of sexually explicit images and non-sexual imagery. Their research was published May 28 in the journal JAMA Psychiatry.

"Our findings indicated that gray matter volume of the right caudate of the striatum is smaller with higher pornography use," the researchers wrote in the journal article, referring to an area of the brain associated with reward processing and motivation. Men who watched more porn also showed less activity in another area of the striatum, called the left putamen, which usually lights up in response to sexual images.

Heavy porn consumers also had a weaker connection between the striatum and the prefrontal cortex, an area of the brain associated with decision-making.

"Dysfunction of this circuitry has been related to inappropriate behavioral choices, such as drug seeking, regardless of the potential negative outcome," the researchers wrote in the article.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/02/porn-less-gray-matter-brain_n_5418607.html

Pea brain: watching porn online will wear out your brain and make it shrivel

http://www.dw.com/en/pea-brain-watching-porn-online-will-wear-out-your-brain-and-make-it-shrivel/a-17681654

For most of you, you can keep fapping. Just don't fucking watch porn. Ever.

How porn is rewiring our brains

Along with a great number of porn users, they had rewired the arousal pathways in their brains. “Pornography,” writes Doidge, “satisfies every one of the prerequisites for neuroplastic change,” – that is, the brain’s ability to form new neural circuitry. The most important condition is the release of dopamine, the neurotransmitter that gives us a feeling of exciting pleasure, which porn triggers. The more often you watch porn and get the dopamine hit it delivers, the more the activity and the sensation become entwined in your brain.

Doidge puts it like this: “since neurons that fire together wire together, these men got massive amounts of practice wiring these images into the pleasure centres of the brain.” And, “because plasticity is competitive, the brain maps for new, exciting images increased at the expense of what had previously attracted them.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/10441027/How-porn-is-rewiring-our-brains.html

Can porn shrink the brain?

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The brains of men who watch lots of pornography tend to be smaller in certain key areas and have fewer connections than those of other men, a new study has found.

The differences appeared in a brain region called the striatum, which is associated with reward and motivation.

"Since the striatum is part of the brain network that is known to respond to sexual cues, one can assume that this reflects a blunting of the reaction to erotic stimuli," study co-author Simone Kühn, a psychologist at the Max Planck Institute for Human Development in Germany, wrote in an email to Live Science.

But although the findings are suggestive, it's not clear that watching porn actually causes men's brains to shrink. Perhaps men who watch a lot of porn are different in some underlying way from those who don't, and that could explain the smaller size, experts said.

Sexual disorder?

With the rise of the Internet, people can now anonymously access pornography at all hours of the day with just the click of a mouse. [Hot Stuff! 10 Unusual Sexual Fixations]

"This has fostered the pervasiveness of pornography use and raises the question of whether it has any effects on brain structure and function," Kühn said.

Some psychologists argue that porn-watching is harmless, while others claim porn is bad for mental health and can spiral into sex addiction. (The most recent version of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the DSM-5, doesn't include sex addiction as a separate disorder.) [Top 10 Controversial Psychiatric Disorders]

A 2013 study in the journal Socioaffective Neuroscience and Psychology, found that people who reported problems controlling their urge to view sexual images did not display brain patterns that are characteristic of people with addictions.

But even behavior that doesn’t rise to the level of an addiction or disorder can still be problematic, said William Struthers, a neuroscientist at Wheaton College in Illinois, who was not involved in the new study.

"We now need to acknowledge that this fits somewhere on a pathological spectrum," with some people affected relatively little by porn, while others may have their relationships and life compromised, he said.

Brain scans

To assess the effect of pervasive porn watching on the brain, Kühn and her colleague, Jürgen Gallinat, a researcher at the Clinic for Psychiatry and Psychotherapy in Germany, placed 64 healthy men in a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scanner, and measured the men's responses to sexual and neutral images. On average, outside of the lab, the men watched about four hours of pornography a week, with some of the respondents watching nearly 20 hours a week and others watching none at all.

The avid porn watchers showed lower activation of reward circuitry in the brain (as suggested by lower blood flow to certain brain regions) in response to the sexual images.

When their brains were at rest, they also had smaller grey matter volume in areas of the brain, such as the striatum, associated with reward processing and motivation, compared with men who watched less porn.

Past research, detailed in 2012 in the Journal of Sexual Medicine, suggested watching porn can quiet a brain region that processes visual stimuli called the primary visual cortex.

http://www.livescience.com/46006-can-porn-shrink-brain.html

The symptoms of pornography addiction withdrawal are similar to withdrawal addiction symptoms from substances like alcohol, cocaine and heroin.

Many porn users in Utah and across the United States can find comfort knowing that other people are experiencing similar symptoms as they go through the withdrawal process. In general, some porn users have few symptoms, but others report severe symptoms.

The symptoms of pornography addiction withdrawal are similar to withdrawal addiction symptoms from substances like alcohol, cocaine and heroin.

Utah residents experience pornography addictions, just like individuals in other states. Porn addiction is different from drug addiction, but the withdrawal symptoms are similar because all addictions share certain neurochemical and cellular changes, which influence specific regions of the brain. The brain releases more dopamine for a new mate than a familiar one. It’s logical that porn triggers a neurochemical roller coaster in many brains because it’s like the individual is experiencing new partners.

Pornography addiction often causes highs to feel great and lows to feel really dark. This up and down is a withdrawal symptom many addicts experience. Furthermore, this symptom is not just physical; it’s emotional, too. Changing emotions can take over your thoughts and change your perception of the world. However, there is hope. Many men who suffer from these deep lows report seeing large improvements after being without porn for a while.

Pornography addiction withdrawal symptoms include anxiety, restlessness, irritability, insomnia, fatigue, headaches, poor concentration, depression, social isolation and loss of libido. These symptoms can take days to occur, but might last for months to years.

Pornography addiction causes a chemical imbalance in the brain, which is much more than a moral weakness. The brain and body can heal, but it’s just like any addiction. Similar to other dependencies, a small dose here and there — even if infrequent — often renews the cycle.

Porn users in Utah and across the nation can be startled by the severity of their withdrawal symptoms when they stop using porn. These symptoms serve a purpose and help individuals understand the physical addictiveness of this type of dependency. It may take months to fully recover, but it’s important not to compare progress with anyone else.

If you or anyone you know is suffering with or recovering from a pornography addiction, consider working with one of Utah’s trained specialists that can help you or a loved one receive the proper care.

https://medium.com/@Fusion_360/3-things-you-should-know-about-pornography-addiction-withdrawal-1be95da89eff#.5wpti01km

Internet pornography by the numbers; a significant threat to society

Teenagers with frequent exposure to sexual content on TV have a substantially greater likelihood of teenage pregnancy; and the likelihood of teen pregnancy was twice as high when the quantity of sexual content exposure within the viewing episodes was highviii.

Pornography viewing by teens disorients them during the developmental phase when they have to learn how to handle their sexuality and when they are most vulnerable to uncertainty about their sexual beliefs and moral valuesix

A significant relationship also exists among teens between frequent pornography use and feelings of loneliness, including major depressionx

Adolescents exposed to high levels of pornography have lower levels of sexual self-esteem

http://www.webroot.com/us/en/home/resources/tips/digital-family-life/internet-pornography-by-the-numbers

The growing epidemic of children addicted to Internet porn

Kids as young as 8 years old have become addicted to pornography.

Pornography has been the bane of many American communities for decades. With the advent of the Internet the problem has become exacerbated. Most parents are aware of the dangers of pedophiles, but other dangers lurk online that are just as potentially damaging to children–especially children between the ages of 8 to 12 years old.

Internet pornography has destroyed careers, broken up marriages and led to financial ruin … and those are just the downsides for adults who became addicted. Now a growing trend has emerged of addicted children–kids as young as 8 years old–who have become exposed and addicted to pornography.

Although the trend only surfaced a handful of years ago, research has already been done that draws very ominous conclusions. What has become apparent is the fact that if this new addiction among children is not addressed and quickly halted it can not only destroy the child's life, but destroy the American culture and society as well.

This article will present a very brief synopsis of the efforts of some of the people leading the charge to counteract this trend towards self-abasement, destruction and ruined lives. From learned psychologists and family counselors to esteemed neurologists and the clergy, the lines have been drawn and the battle is beginning for the hearts an minds of America's children–not to mention their souls.

Addictions are an insidious thing and often involve an insidious process. Neurological studies of children who have become addicted to Internet porn (including brain scans) has revealed that the physiological changes in the brain of a porn addict almost exactly match those who are addicted to alcohol and drugs.

Addictions change the physiology of the brain. An addiction especially has a deep impact on those brains between the ages of 8 to 12 that are still developing. This is the latest demographic group now becoming exposed and immersed to "sexting" (sexual flirting via text messages), user group "orgies" and triple X-rated pornography sites on the Web.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-growing-epidemic-of-ch-by-Terrence-Aym-101023-680.html

PORN ADDICTION AT CRISIS LEVEL

More than 50 percent of men now look at pornography regularly, thanks to easy access and constant bombardment of images on the Internet. Men cannot go online without seeing air-brushed provocative women inviting them to click. Twenty-five percent of Internet searches are related to pornography, and one-third of all who look at porn on the Internet are women.

Looking at pornography frequently is an addiction. Yet society looks the other way at pornography, dismissing it as harmless “men’s entertainment.” The pornography industry renamed itself the “adult entertainment industry” to create the perception that it’s just entertainment. The reality is that porn is extremely addictive, and along with the addiction comes life-destroying side effects. It puts the addict into a creepy bondage that affects the lives of those around him or her. It is not a victimless crime. It has become a chilling epidemic that is ruining the minds, families and jobs of possibly half the men in the country.

Although porn eroticizes male supremacy and degrades women, it is ironically women who are responsible for instituting this laissez-faire attitude toward porn. Feminists in the 1960s ushered in a sexual revolution of anything goes, free love, free sex. Sexologist Alfred Kinsey also played a major role normalizing porn. He performed research on subjects that included a high percentage of pedophiles, inmates, sex offenders, pimps and prostitutes. He claimed his results proved that men need deviant sexual behavior and that it is normal. His findings were widely adopted in schools and universities and by psychologists, even though it became well-known later that he was a deviant himself who welcomed the sexualization of children. Culture theorist and author Jackson Katz explains what is wrong with normalizing pornography: “It normalizes the men’s pleasure-taking as it sexualizes the woman’s degradation.”

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/porn-addiction-at-crisis-level

Internet Pornography Addiction is it a social epidemic or something more

Pornography is the most popular type of content available online. Every single second, 372 internet users type pornographic search terms into various search engines.

With the internet being so prevalent and widely available all over the world, it has made viewing pornography much easier than in the past.

About 12% of the internet is pornographic websites and about 42% of internet users view porn. The largest sections of people that view these pornographic sites are men in the ages 35 to 49.

Perhaps nothing in the mental health world has been more hotly contested than the extent of pornography’s addictiveness. Addiction is a term often bandied about rather carelessly, as we often label too much of anything an addiction.

Medically, a substance is addictive if and only if an addict experiences both physical and psychological withdrawal symptoms when the substance is no longer available.

Another component of addiction is the desire for more and more of the substance to achieve the same “high.” While many users of pornography have experienced symptoms that would classify pornography as an addiction, there’s still no substantiated proof that porn addiction actual exists.

http://www.examiner.com/article/internet-pornography-addiction-is-it-a-social-epidemic-or-something-more

>>1163

The "addiction" part of noporn is easy if you fap. The porn withdrawals is the worst thing I have ever experienced in my life.

As for your question, your will is going to be strengthened when you start feeling the depression and it's unlikely that your dick will work after a certain point, putting you in forced nofap.

Nofap people tend to fuck up because they go on a rollercoaster of relapsing: nofap, pornfap, nofap, pornfap. It's insane. There's also no scientific or medical evidence to support nofap.

>>1164

I don't want to wait until my fucking dick stops working I want to quit NOW

>>1165

You can quit porn nigga. I'm just telling you that this is how you stop fapping.

>>1168

/pol/ go home. Porn was big in ancient Rome, and Greece.

>>1171

Made by jewish potters. Fuck off kike.

>>1171

There's no comparison between that and video/Internet porn.

>To bring the prefrontal lobes back into working order, a two-pronged attack is needed: (1) the old neural pathways must be starved, and (2) new neural pathways must be built and fed, increasing dopamine levels in a way that build up the prefrontal cortex.

So for the number one, don't fap or do fap but don't fap to porn? And for number 2? How do I build new neural pathways that give me dopamine in a way that builds up the prefrontal cortex?

>>1180

Shut up and drink your red bull, while posting on a Chan for 16 hours straight. Just not this Chan.

>>1168

That's actually a hilarious way to mess with the enemy. Broadcast pornography at them. That's hilarious, and actually a pretty harmless stunt. Have you watched Palestinian television? It's all kill all "blow yourself up" this and "the Jews and Christians" that. Porn is a clear improvement.

>>1197

>harmless

Maybe /nofap/ isn't for you.

Brain scans of porn addicts: what's wrong with this picture?

Teenagers' brains are especially plastic. Now, 24/7 access to internet porn is laying the foundation of their sexual tastes. In Beeban Kidron's InRealLife, a gripping film about the effects of the internet on teenagers, a 15-year-old boy of extraordinary honesty and courage articulates what is going on in the lives of millions of teen boys. He shows her the porn images that excite him and his friends, and describes how they have moulded their "real life" sexual activity. He says: "You'd try out a girl and get a perfect image of what you've watched on the internet … you'd want her to be exactly like the one you saw on the internet … I'm highly thankful to whoever made these websites, and that they're free, but in other senses it's ruined the whole sense of love. It hurts me because I find now it's so hard for me to actually find a connection to a girl."

The sexual tastes and the romantic longings of these boys have become dissociated from each other. Meanwhile, the girls have "downloaded" on to them the expectation that they play roles written by pornographers. Once, porn was used by teens to explore, prepare and relieve sexual tension, in anticipation of a real sexual relationship. Today, it supplants it.

In her book, Bunny Tales: Behind Closed Doors at the Playboy Mansion, Izabella St James, who was one of Hugh Hefner's former "official girlfriends", described sex with Hef. Hef, in his late 70s, would have sex twice a week, sometimes with four or more of his girlfriends at once, St James among them. He had novelty, variety, multiplicity and women willing to do what he pleased. At the end of the happy orgy, wrote St James, came "the grand finale: he masturbated while watching porn".

Here, the man who could actually live out the ultimate porn fantasy, with real porn stars, instead turned from their real flesh and touch, to the image on the screen. Now, I ask you, "what is wrong with this picture?".

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/26/brain-scans-porn-addicts-sexual-tastes

When you're getting off porn or gambling, you basically have to replace your addiction with another one. In other words, you need a healthy hobby.

Good video, required watching for /nofap/

>>1171

that was pre internet porn. jews and internet pornography are highly linked.

Speaking as a "sex addict" it was never about the sex. It was about the hunt. It's like gambling. I don't think your fapping addiction is all that related. You know what they call it when you have near daily sex with one partner? Well it's not called addiction.

>>1176

Between live sexual performances and video?

>>1145

Thank you for posting this, this was the kick in the ass I needed to drop that degenerate habit.

>>1145

Director Seymore Butts tells you the Truth about what really happens in Porn

http://www.menshealth.com/best-life/director-reveals-horrifying-truth-about-directing-porn

>>1267

Maybe it should be.

>all this withdrawl shit

I'm scared anons

>>1310

It's more scary when you don't do anything about it.

bump

I don't agree with the "it's OK to fap" idea. Orgasm is still extremely addictive. Yes, that means sex is addictive. Does that mean I'm anti sex? Take it as you want. The reason the researchers won't admit that masturbation is also harmful is because that would be spitting in the face of the sexual liberation movement that has been alive since the days of Playboy. The idea has always been that you should fuck all the time and there's nothing wrong with it and most people get really triggered if you argue against that.

I've been wondering for a while, but how long would it take for your brain to be rewired. And also does text count as porn?

>>3129

>how long would it take for your brain to be rewired

Usually 1 to 3 months. Depends on how long you've been doing it.

>And also does text count as porn?

Yes. Everything outside of your imagination or an actual girl in front of you is porn.

>>3130

How long would it take if it's been 8 years?

Yes it does shrink the brain, and then you get these stupid liberal news sources saying it doesn't cause that. And people believe it!!! People are idiots.

I despise LARPfags but honestly NS music is fucking amazing. Please check out this stuff,

This music is inspiring and is mentally rejuvenating.

BTW most of these were written before Hitler ever came to power, so calling them "natsoc" is a little bit erroneous. Anyway, great music. European people need to make music like this again, fucks sake! You also don't have to agree with "Nazism" to like this music, either.

Also, you can find similar songs from all over Europe, not just Germany.

***(It's harder to find high quality marching songs in other languages,

because modern versions suck and Germany mostly stopped recording this stuff post-WW2)***

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKSo7NztGr4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-OMamRz5PY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgUELZ_S4jo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGgMUMtAHOw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJxBW7Ix78o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4CLfL-YkRs

This music comes from a time before men started to become cucked and weakened. They engender (no pun intended) masculinity and toughmindedness.

Discuss

>>3354

I think calling it nationalistic music is a better description, anon.

>>3413

>Trannylover and pedo

reported

Can the effects be reversed by abstaining or will my brain forever be depleted?

why wont we take dopamine pills straight to the anus?

>>3483

Yes. Your brain will heal and rewire itself if you abstain for a few months.

>>3498

You are free to try heroin suppositories. It will kill your sex drive but you will be in an even bigger world of shit.

This stuff should be stickied for newfags to read.

A ton of important info.

I don't watch hentai or anime, but your argument is still on point about the brain optimizing itself.

That's fucked and scary.

Thanks for that.

I know this is so normie but

I really wish I wouldve listened to my mother and church leaders about not watching porn and masturbating

You don't know degeneracy until you've fapped to CP.

>>1268

>he watches Jewish (read: any) television and movies

>he listens to black """music"""

>If you don't like Jews and blacks go throw out your record collections and delete all the movies off your dvr.

Already done, mate

>>3354

>Only one link is not blocked in Germany

Thanks, Jewtube

hola

So what theres no going back I'm completely fucked?

Why even bother with this shit then?

>>1196

>its like blaming the jews

Well gee, I wonder who owns 90% of the porn industry.

>>11165

it's called neuroplasticity you retard

>>1145

This whole thread is a massive blackpill if you've been addicted to this shit from a young age.

Day 7 and going strong.

>>1171

Pictures of what are basically stick figures having sex painted on pottery is not the same as constant unlimited access to videos of every type of porn imaginable on the Internet. You're fucking retarded.

>>1155

About my experiences with addictions and my positive experiennces:

I have been through a lot of shit as many anons here admit too and as I look back I see that redpilling has done more good than bad to me. Soma anon claim that it generally made them depressed and sad about everything. True, its a major stage of learning truth. I admit I cried like a baby for days after David Irving videos and Greatest Story Never Told and it took a good month to see it more neutrally. Taking more and more time to educate myself instead of playing games. After a while I realised how worthless many videogames became to me. Nowaday I just open Steam, look at my game list with like 20 games at most like: Nope, boring, repetitive, too much time, not worth it, why did I buy this… And most of my day is browsing for knowledge and of course fun. Cut all my ties from social media. No faceberg, no twatter. Only for direct messaging. You see its two step forward and one step backwards. Wasting time on forums is not good either so Im trying to sort my attention for better threads. Like this one. So here I am browsing /pol/ all day and now I decided for /nofap/ from today. Hopefully the PC habit will lower and I can free up time for all the books Ive been piling up and neglecting. I have no idea what treasures I have been sitting on.

>>11247

I have cried too. It's only natural to react to the feelings we discover. There's nothing wrong with honest sorrow. I guess what truth reveals to us is something along the process of being true to our core - our nature which is the strongest part in us. We laugh, we cry. We aspire to reach a higher vibration not only for ourselves, but the whole earth.

That's true emotions. The energies we simply are a channel to, leaving nothing in want or neglect behind for ourselves.

It's not good to be lured into the perversity. It's simply downgrading. I believe I have reached to my point of realization why masturbation is bad, and especially porn. It's basically playing along a very bad tune.

Also, sacrificing something doesn't mean you cut it away from your life. It means you make it sacred.

I believe sexual energy is something very primal in us. As such it is good to honor that accordingly and if you simply observe it for what it is, you don't have to react on it. That way you might even get to see let the magic play out, instead of bowing your head to the perversion you thought was real.

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>>1158

considering i first saw BDSM shit at 9 or 10, doesn't really surprise me. I knew what bondage was in 2nd grade. i knew how to keep my viewing hidden from parents tho. was a little computer whiz. :D my parents raised me well, they monitored me, and whatnot, i just at the time didn't understand what i was looking at. i didnt think pornography actually when i was a child. my brain was kinda innocent in That way. until i saw the more… objectifying side of it, and more sadistic side. i look at that as the beginning of my curiosity, and descent into addiction to porn. i found all sorts of weird shit when i was 9 or 10. furries, (i hated them, especially after seeing disgusting shit) animegao kigurumi(not porn) BDSM, etc. was on fucking wikipedia and wikis for fucks sakes. a child never stood a chance of not seeing fucked shit… and now its worse than it was then! that was the dial up era. now we have broadband internet, where it is at your fingertips.

I didnt fap for three months when I was at Parris Island, and I didnt develop any superpowers.

If you are going to nofap, do it for religious/moral reasons. Don't expect any major bodily changes.

>>11761

Shill

>>1196

>This is like blaming the Jews. It's stupid and irrational.

Do you really think antisemitism has no basis? Naive, deliberately blind or dumb?

I sometimes start watching porn when i'm bored or need an excuse to procrastinate. Is this bad?

>>11954

It is.

Even if you do not fap it still damages your brain.

>>11920

nice misdirect

jews didn't invent porn, and aren't responsible for your consumption of it.

they sell it because there is enormous demand for it. discussing their misdeeds is a minor factor in the story and only serves to distract you from the disgust you have with yourself.

quit complaining about hyenas and be a better lion.

i already know how you'll respond, with more misdirection

>BAWWW I'M ENTITLED TO COMPLAIN ABOUT HYENAS YOURE A SHILL

of course you're entitled, just like you're entitled to consume porn. you don't do it to improve yourself. it's just masturbation of a different sort.

the jews and women that browse this website will come to despise porn just as much as you do.

the "nationalist" component of nofap is only there for an introductory boost of self-esteem - after you get over you'll realize that more people hating porn means less propagators of porn in the world, less enemies to need dead.

everything you respond with after this are tenfold-removed hypothetical excuses.

>muh resource competition

>muh genetic hegemony

shit that comes from the mouth of a kid who's hardly even left the home yet, if that. from a kid who has IMMEDIATE concerns to excuse away under the guise of "preparing for the future".

>y-you just shill for instant gratification! i'm a pure soul who's prepared for the future!

yeah, whatever. says the guy who's more concerned with the immediate satisfaction of blaming x or y group of people for a momentary bolster.

>>12089

that's not the argument he's making.

(it wasn't just rocks, you know. the midget porn that mosaic is depicting existed in real life. who needs porn when you can just enter a bathhouse and wait?)

>>12091

Jesus fucking Christ you made a lot of assumptions trying to sound smart there Sigmund Freud.

Go read a bit and open your world view instead of projecting your insecurities on too others. Good starting point, libido dominandi E. Michael Jones.

>everything you respond with after this are tenfold-removed hypothetical excuses

Sorry for starting off as trying too give you a serious reply. Strut your stuff pigeon and shit all over the board.

asdsada

>>1180

>no source on anime being inherently bad for your health

>addiction is just bad

And the fucking sky is blue

Jews fear the Samurai.

>>1145

Brothers, the hypofrontality makes me nervous. Years of masturbation could have destroyed my cognitive abilities I assume. I've read a bit through and major skills like problem solving and fluid thinking are dependant on the frontal cortex, which in hypofrontality is starved. (there are some lesser functions but those are, while important, not extremely important) Can I ever get them back? If so I would be extremely happy, but I fear that it is impossible for me to do. The things I've read about hypofrontality suggest that the damage is permanent. This would be a major downer, but at least I'll try to stop getting dumber.

Further, are there any games you guys know that are good for training problem solving? I think that if I can exercise that part of my brain, I can heal it a bit. I'm 20, so I have 5 more years of a relatively plastic brain, and I want to take full advantage of this. I hope I can reverse at least 50 % of the done damage, but I fear it wont be much I can do in these years. Even so, I wont give up.

I have started meditation and sometimes I feel funny in my frontal cortex, so I assume it is good for that part of the brain. I'd suggest doing meditation if you arent already.

>>12262

so if im beyond 25 that means im fucked in relation with plasticity of brain and reversing damage that fapping done?

>>12295

No, it'll be harder though.

I am Saseestharan, working as a managing director at Spielemax in Berlin Mitte, my address is Fritz Erler Allee 62, 12351 Berlin, how are you

I would like to meet girls around Berlin for sex

>>12295

Plasticity of the brain is ongoing, which means that you can indeed reverse the damage done. You just need to stop the bad habits now and get working on the good habits.

alface

Xmxmxmxmxm

asdsadasd

>>1145

Assuming that one is able to /nofap/ and /noporn/ with few or no relapses, and that you're still in your teens, would the brain heal from atrophy over time?

Or is the point just to stop the brain/mental state from getting worst?

>>12990

Also how long would it take significantly improve your mental state?

>>1160

I think its clear to anyone with an IQ above room temperature that society, as it exists today is absolutely devolved and but a shell of what it once was

You can debate the reasons and causes all you want (but we know (((who))) did it) , but I want to know: How can you develop yourself into something moderately resembling a healthy person, in mind and body, with all the sythetic, fake, and degenerate shit you see and experience 24/7?

>>12994

Evola has written an entire book title "Ride the tiger". Further; the best answer is to refuse. Refuse the fake food and entertainment, you certainly can find real replacements. Refuse everything that wants to stimulate you like a Pavlov's dog or a Skinner's chicken. Try to let all that is modern be, and costruct your own existence from an endemic standpoint.

Now, this is very difficult, if not outright impossible in the modern world. We live in a society. You will need to share your environment with others, you probably will work a job in the system, you will go to supermarkets and other stores, you will (involuntary) notice things around you that you wish you didnt. For those things you need to be a rock in a storm. Hold fast and true to yourself.

Further, you probably have grown to depend on the modern world for many things. Your body expects those things like soda and entertainment. It's best to drop them in a 21-day cycle (that's how long it takes before new habits form). You drop soda&cetera and drink only water, coffee, tea, milk and fresh fruit juice. After 21 days, you'll start an exercise; like pushups every time you wake up. Next cycle you remove another thing: you stop watching netflix or anime or so. The following cycle you add reading the classics its impossible to call the classics like the iliad "waste time". And so on. In a pattern of removing something bad - adding something good, (cycles of 21 days) you'll change your life for the better.

The reason you will be doing this pattern is to spread it. In this day and age, there are none that have the olympian willpower to do all of this at once. If you try, you will fail. By doing this in a slower, more long term plan, you will make structural changes that will enhance the quality of your life in the long term.

I hope this was clear, I'll post a list below of things you can "cycle"

To remove

>soda

>candy/ sugar snacks

>modern entertainment

>porn/Nofap where_do_you_think_we_are.gif

>music everywhere (this is a difficult one)

>radio (ties in with the previous one)

>smoking

>other bad habits

To add

>exercise

>meditation

>reading the classics

>learning the basics of a language

>skills like map reading, long-distance hiking,

>A crafting hobby

>as much as I hate peterson; cleaning your room (even if it is just putting everything on your desk in place.

>working towards a defined goal

I gave seven defined things each, so that'll last you less than a year (294 days). Try it and you'll see how much will change.

okay I went 3 days without fapping, i realize that trying it for a massive amount of time at one (eg a month) is impossible at this point, so i'll try and up the day each time to see if this works

next goal: 4 days (wed)

This Is Your Brain On Parasites

>"the parasite is going to alter dopamine, GABA, glutamate, and other key neurotransmitters at two hundred different places in the brain," said Evans, "so it's not surprising it's going to be subtly influencing human behavior" -or, if the cysts happen to cluster in certain regions, even contributing to psychiatric disease. "I do take seriously these reports of an increase in suicide and schizophrenia related to the parasite."

http://am-medicine.com/2016/07/brain-parasites-pdf.html

>inb4 not taking responsibility

I still own my faults/addiction.

>>13006

Boom, first day down

3 to go

>>13023

2 to go

>>13033

1 day to go and I fucked it up

guess I will try again until I get it right

nofap until saturday

any other tips on not fucking up so bad?

>>13043

How exactly have you fucked up, anon?

>>13043

Focus all your energy into DOING something rather than AVOIDING something.

>>13043

Oh my I came on here way to late

>>13005

>To remove

>>music everywhere

Curious - why remove music? What does it do to your brain?

>>13059

It is a way of escapism. Many people are really afraid to be alone with their own thoughts and thus put on some music. Is music bad? not really although there are some negro tones What matters is how you approach music. Do you use it to push aside "nasty" thoughts? Do you use songs to sing along with while drunk and with friends? Two very different uses, and they have very different effects.

So if you ever put on music while make a long trip, either by train, bus or car, dont put on any music, and just let yourself notice your environment. Don't isolate yourself.

To conclude: listening music everywhere is a means of escapism and has a very isolating effect.

>>13060

Thanks for the reply. I thought at first you meant stopping listening to music altogether by "music everywhere". Makes more sense now.

>>13045

>>13048

not having a defined goal so I was doing random shit until fapping became one of them

i'll make a list of defined shit to do this time

day 1 down

>>13067

day 2 down

>>13076

day 3

>>13087

Have you made

>a list of defined shit to do

, anon? Did it help?

>>13087

>>13088

okay fml I'm hopeless

never wrote one up, stayed up too late to have self control

Will retry this once more from this sunday to the next:

7 fucking days

i have a list, alarms, and people to contact, games to play, active tasks to distract me

if I fuck it up once more I'll just go "fuck it" as it'll be hopeless

>>13091

If you have the energy to stay up late then I suggest you exercise.

dfg

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after how long can I get joy from the life again? or is it fucked anyway because world is turning into hell for white hetero like me?

nature works on good enoughs, if you can receive easy pleasure then theres no need to waste energy developing/upkeeping the rest of the brain. to progress is to suffer, to be curious is to feel dissatisfied

>>1171

And where are they now?

>>1145

> To bring the prefrontal lobes back into working order, a two-pronged attack is needed: (1) the old neural pathways must be starved, and (2) new neural pathways must be built and fed, increasing dopamine levels in a way that build up the prefrontal cortex.

So what do we need to get it in working order? From what I can understand from this phrase is to (1) stop feeding into the porn addiction and (2) take action that directly works on brain functioning.

Can someone expand on this, specially point two?

>>1167

>Yfw Israel is actually the one pushing for a more moral society

Am I the only one here that read this?

>>14165

only for their own country

So I've been thinking, are all forms of porn bad, what about looking into pretty girl, or less lewd newds?

Just plainly seeing a sexy girl bad? Where is exactly the threshold?

>>14165

>cut off foreskin to reduce penis pleasure

>arranged marriages and value of commitment

>ban porn and general degeneracy

really makes you think, should I convert to jude?

That's it lads, I'm sold, no more pornography, I've consuming this since fucking puberty and I'm 32 fucking yo.

I literally let just a good portion of my whole life pass by in front of my eyes. Balls are already itching, but its goodbye porn collection, if I need to I'll go dry masturbation.

Anyone got any experience feedback from completely quitting porn?

>>13016

Already got the book, will be reading it eventually, but you got any tl;dr about it?

>>14190

>cut off foreskin to reduce penis pleasure

>really makes you think, should I convert to jude?

Dunno, do you really want to castrate yourself so badly for something you can already do without submission?

>>14292

>castrate yourself so badly

I didn't mean that, and besides circumcision isn't castration.

But I mean the desirable side of jude, like being part of the caste that rules the world, don't have to worry with money anymore, have arranged marriage and serving wife (or at least a serving wageslave).

>>14201

>got any tl;dr about it?

I haven’t even gotten to it yet tbh. Fasting to kill the parasites is all I know this far. Also, high doses of lemon juice, apple cider vinegar, and coconut oil when you do eat to kill them.

>>14296

>But I mean the desirable side of jude,

>>>/oven/

>>14304

But aren't these just parasites you can kill by using regular medicine?

Does erotic fiction do the same thing as visual porn?

I write erotic fiction for myself when I'm super horny to prevent myself from looking up porn or fapping. I'm assuming it helps me improve my writing skills aswell as improve my visualization but I don't know.

I put myself in the stories having romantic and sexual encountres with different women and I try my best not to be degenerate but I do admit I might go off board sometimes.

But if it's just as bad as visual porn I should probably stop

>>14514

It probably has same effects on the brain, but the visual (porn/hentai) is probably worse, but what affects is the feeling of get hooked one, like the brain going dumb.

I dunno about writing them though, but if I were I'd stay away from degeneracy as whole, its what get us hooked, is what fuck us over and sap our will and motivation.

>>14514

Visualizing porn is always damaging, whether it's text or image. Ideally, you should be writing normal fiction instead of erotica. On the other hand, writing smut's still better than just beating one out to random porn online.

If I only lasted 7 days did I make any progress at all?

Fuck I was doing so good then I made the mistake of sitting down at the computer. Why did I do that you know it only ends one way what was your plan here?

Posting this and getting the fuck out but I would like to know if I made any progress from 7 days. I certainly felt better. Full of energy. Now I just feel like a suicidal loser. Good stuff.

>>14642

>Good stuff

Well one week is something but its just the start. Most normies can do with fapping once a week and being sated. I'm afraid this doesn't work for the more addicted of us.

So consider it just a start, take the benefits you saw as a promise to what lies ahead, next try to get to 21 days, its a golden number of nofap and habit building.

I will also try to make this mark now, and it is said that within this mark that the drive starts to settle and we got to normal levels of hormone and brain chemistry.

>>14320

>regular medicine?

(((regular medicine)))

Anon pls. Chasing the money changers out of the temple was also an allegory for this. Oil of oregano, garlic, ginger, diatomaceous earth, and activated charcoal also help.

>>1145

Can the effects be reversed???

>>14806

Read the thread, this exact same question has been asked many times.

Nope

Stickied when

>>14165

Garbage for thee and gold to me

>>1171

Fuck off retard

This thread is fantastic

>>11761

Discipline, better face.

This is what masturbation literally can do to your brain.

Reverse the atrophy:

Cut off addictions, get rid of technology, actually do things, exercise, enjoy nature, talk with friends IRL, meditate, eat B vitamins, reduce stress.

Is this permanent damage? Or will it go away after a long time after not using porn?

I’m 20 btw

>>16753

>>1180

You’re retarded there’s literally no difference between anime and any television show or piece of medís by that logic. It’s just animated and in fucking Japanese

>>11233

You can always heal. Neuroplasticity my friend

>>16704

No PMO not masturbation on its own

Necrobump

>>1145

After my porn habits kicked in, my ability to do and learn math diminished. The depression kicked in as well, multiplying the effect.

>>17322

dubs checked, and I see what you did there.