No.102192
Why is today's music so shit? What went wrong?
Early 2000s was peak music
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No.102198
The early 2000s weren't that good musically. At least rock was still alive to some extent, albeit on life support.
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No.102199
>>102192
Humans were replaced by bugmen thanks to racemixing, sheltering, coddling and welfare
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No.102205
>>102198
>pop punk
>nu metal
>actual indie rock
>post-punk revival
>post grunge
It makes me depressed that, due to my age, I was mostly raised on mid 2000s VH1-tier music and missed out on all these genres (except for the last one I guess). I'm praying we get "Disco Demolition 2: Electric Boogaloo" for rap music, not because I hate rap, but because I'm sick of being musically isolated.
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No.102222
>>102205
Some of the indie rock and post-punk revival from that era I'm fine with, but I'm glad that the others are dead. Post-grunge had jumped the shark by that point, nu metal was inconsistent, and pop punk always had extremely faggy vocals. That said, I'd rather popular music went back to those in exchange for the garbage polluting the airwaves now.
I didn't even really get strongly into music until years later and don't feel like I missed out on much.
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No.102224
In the modern era, I feel that the 1960's-1970's were the best for music in all regards.
There was a huge amount of experimentation and the roots of pretty much all current music can be found during these some 20 years.
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No.102230
>>102205
All that shit is garbage.
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No.102232
>>102230
I actually agree with you for the most part. I guess I lament not being a part of any "scene" in my youth.
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No.102239
>>102232
You're a zoomer? You missed out on acting like a complete and total nigger I guess.
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No.102240
>>102192
>Early 2000s was peak music
man. i really feel sorry for you.
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No.102251
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No.102278
Today music bad, repeat the same thread over and over to try and fit in.
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No.102287
>>102205
>genuinely missing all of those genres
All those jokes about 2050 girls saying they were born in the wrong generation listening to Taylor Swift and One Direction has come early.
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No.102289
>>102205
>poppunk
>numetal
>post grunge
>missing it
Nigger are you for real
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No.103003
>>102192
Rap took over and turned it into complete shit.
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No.103010
Mainstream music is always shit.
How many top ten hits from the 50's do you know of?
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No.103013
>>103010
>Mainstream music is always shit.
Nope.
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No.103015
What went wrong is that Western culture is circling the drain and everything is in decline. The US music industry is probably intentionally engineering social decline.
This is now top-tier, best-selling, award-winning, chart-topping music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyDfgMOUjCI
But there's never been a better time to not listen to mainstream music. The internet gives us practically infinite amounts of music of every kind, from all over the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOeciepU-eA
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No.103016
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No.103017
>>103015
Bad Guy is rather catchy, i think there's way worse as far as mainstream music goes
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No.103030
>>103017
Advertising jingles are catchy too.
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No.103039
>>103015
>>103003
>>103017
Agreed with all of these. Regarding 'Bad Guy', I think it's actually good but that last minute or so is such a bad choice for a change of pace in my opinion. It really brings down the quality a lot.
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No.103056
what are some good albums that came out last year
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No.103118
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>>103056
Poppy's new stuff is good.
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No.103119
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No.103127
>>102192
>Early 2000s was peak music
I was with you until you said this. Early 2000's was quite possibly the worst era for music, and I'm definitely putting 2010's in there for consideration. Fuck you and your shitty taste.
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No.103134
>>102239
>zoomer
Disgusting. Go back to cuckchan, faggot
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No.103443
>>102192
>Why is today's music so shit? What went wrong?
You got old, nigga.
>Early 2000s was peak music
Oh, my sweet summer child, no. 1984-1989 was peak musical supremacy.
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No.103445
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>>102192
This is the same kind of logic as Dragon Ball: GT is peak Dragon Ball.
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No.103448
>Early 2000s was peak music
Actually that was a time when most of 90s edge lords have run out of steam, only to continue sometime later with stuff arguably inferior to their 90s heyday
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No.103481
>>102192
Convergence in composition. Mainstream music will always be a certain way because it appeals to the masses, but it wasn't always like this. Everything now is just boring, it doesn't have be jammed pack of wanky techniques, it just needs to have a few aspects and some original inspiration that doesn't make it utterly boring.
The vast majority of Western 'popular' music is plagued by these
>4 chord loops
>of the same 4 chords (in function)
>doesn't even change as songs go into different sections (same chord loop for verse, chorus, god forbid in any bridges)
>mostly just root notes for bass
>less variety in instrumentation
>rhythm isn't even that interesting
Jazz was like a shipment of spices that could've completely transformed the mainstream (look at what happened when it hit Japan) but 'popular' music discarded most of it and let it fade away. People can groove to Stevie Wonder, but there's no-one even with that style (which I think is rather vanilla and plebian to hardcore jazz guys) anywhere near the mainstream. inb4 some one mentions Jacob Collier.
I think Our House by Madness is a good example because it was so famous in the UK and USA, plus I'm an angloid
https://youtu.be/rXuvdeEC5y8
It's pretty conventional but the modulations and instrumentals in particular differentiate it from more modern pop/rock stuff. It's catchy which helps, but the structure and harmony isn't utterly mind numbing either.
Throughout it has the typical features. Percussion, piano, bass, guitars and vocal harmony. But also a bunch of fun things like a string section and a brass/saxes combo which are much less common nowadays. The bass isn't anything special really, it's mostly just root notes. It keeps one rhythm in the verse and swings in the chorus. But because the rest of the instrumentals make it interesting it doesn't feel boring at all to me.
The structure is conventional but not entirely cookie cutter either
Verse is basically
C, Gm, Dm, Fm (Em, Dm, Em)
The bracketed ones are leading chords after the Fm in to the next loop
Chorus is
D Am Em Gm
Chorus 2 goes down a minor third in the second half
B F#m C#m Em
Bridge with instrumental break followed guitar and sax trading with each other
New bridge verse thing into a repeat of the first verse
then repeat chorus for outro fade
First time is normal
D Am Em Gm
Second time is down a major minor third like the 2nd chorus earlier
B F#m C#m Em
Third time but is up a whole step from the original (just the verse chords)
C Gm Dm Fm
Final time it's the original chorus
D Am Em Gm
This song did amazingly in terms of popularity. A large percentage of brits, and maybe some americans, probably know it by heart. It's conventional on the whole but has some differences in structure plus differences in harmony that make it a fun and unique song. If only more mainstream stuff was like this. Not mad, but with enough unique character to differentiate itself from being just another song for Axis of Awesome to meme into a mashup.
Thank you for reading my essay
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No.103614
Subcultures died because music become so shit that people couldn't use it as a fashion accessory anymore.
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No.103634
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>>102192
the truth is billie eilish s not so bad nor is kanye west
#woke
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No.103712
>Why is today's music so shit? What went wrong?
Creativity burnout + "musicians" spend more time on their smart phone instead of learning their instrument or practicing. Access to the internet has allowed too many artists to be influenced by other artists, e.g. lack of originality.
The only saving grace for me is synthwave.
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No.103794
It's just survivorship bias in action. We only remember the good songs from the past and hence, the find nostalgia for it. There was shitty stuff then and there is shitty stuff now. Good music exists no matter what your taste is or what genre one likes.
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