No.670 [Last50 Posts]
Can women be rightful monarchs?
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No.673
Of course
For example, Emma is queen of /tv/
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No.678
I don't know. On the one hand, you've got the traditional arguments against female suffrage that seem to have been themselves out since that movement took over western democracies, and it's tempting to apply those same arguments to a female ruler. On the other hand, there are a lot of good examples of female rulers.
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No.688
>>670
Hell yes.
TFW no frumpy queen for whom to oppress dirty savages in far away lands.
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No.692
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No.1345
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No.1347
No, they can not. They can hold the position until the first Prince becomes a King, but not actually claim an official position of power.
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No.1349
They can. Only truly good and capable women could even come to power. History more or less proves this; the number of male sovereigns far outnumbers the number of females, but the few females that manage to come to power have been (by and large) capable. Catherine the Great, Mary Tudor, Elizabeth I, Maria Theresa, for examples.
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No.1358
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No.1360
>>1358
Also, that’s not to imply that male primogeniture isn’t the preferable system. Male children should superecede older sisters for the throne, but no need to go searching through distant cousins or fighting wars to prevent a woman from coming to the throne.
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No.1361
No, even entire languages disagree where in Slavic languages Queen means only "King's Wife" and isn't a title with any power.
Best female King was Jadwiga, because she got married of quickly to ensure she doesn't fuck up anything.
Also, majority of wars were started with female Kings in charge.
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No.1363
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No.1368
>>1363
Frederick the Great was great, it’s true, but Maria Theresa was still a good monarch. Heck, she was more effective and ruled more actively than her husband did.
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No.1369
>>1349
This, the reason they can get to power and maintain said power is because tgey were exceptional to begin with. So they managed to succeed when a normal woman would fail
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No.1370
Yes, I believe when people are called to lead their nation something awakens in them wether they are male or female
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No.1375
>>1370
We're talking about people from rich, noble families who had their entire education devoted to learning how to rule properly, at a time when "leading" didn't mean "doing what the plebs want".
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No.1377
>>1368
I love how she continually cucked her son from doing what he wanted, and once she finally died he was able to go after all his ambitions which fucked Austria over so much.
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No.1383
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No.1384
>>692
Queens usually are. At least those that lived before the 20th century.
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No.1404
>>1383
Should've just cropped it instead of changing the aspect. But thanks anyways
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No.1405
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No.1441
>>670
It should be for royal men only.
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No.1466
The royal government should be controlled by the white military men only.
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No.1478
>>1466
what about scientists or philosophers instead of military men?
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No.1488
>>1478
Do you want the monarchy to be technocratic?
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No.1490
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No.1491
>>1490
>yes goy you always need to judge by merit alone and never favour your own kind or your allies
>what? of course we promise to do the same
>no way we will outwit you in the long run by our nepotism and dominate your society from the shadows hehehehe
>also holocaust
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No.1492
>>1491
>what is group selection
read sociobiology you retarded /pol/ack
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No.1494
>>1492
>jews being kikes is natural and in accordance with SCIENCE
>SCIENCE disproves your silly desire to form a 'people'
>SCIENCE also proves the holocaust
>where are my 6 billion shekels goy
lol
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No.1497
>>1494
that goyim butthurt
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No.1501
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No.1506
>>1501
i picked that flag for luls
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No.1523
>all of the plebes ITT that have no idea bout dynastic law and just go "muh white cis hetero male power fantasy"
If the inheritance laws allow a female monarch she is entirely justified, if they don't (cf Salic Law), they are not justified to take up the position.
Your plebeian opinions do not count.
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No.1528
>>1523
There was a big deal of Maria Theresa being named heir, before her it was pretty much only male heirs, but I guess the HRE =/= the German States/princes
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No.1529
>>1523
>muh white cis hetero male power fantasy
>tumblr
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No.1534
>>670
>Can women be rightful monarchs?
They shouldn't.
>>1523
Inheritance laws are common law and therefore pointless lest the plebs acknowledge them, pleb
>>1528
Maria Theresia was not made Roman Emperor. The Austrian inheritance law that allowed her to be archduchess was changed before she was even born in order to further unify the Austrian monarchy.
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No.1862
>>1534
>They shouldn't.
This
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No.3884
>>670
If there is a great deal of chivalry and honor, a woman makes a splendid ruler. With feminism, hell no. My take is it depends on the men around the woman.
>women monarchs as ideal
No. I am worried republicans are relaxing hereditary principles and reinforcing their egalitarian dogma to emasculate the monarchies. The less chance for males to take the throne, the less vigor and virility for a monarchy to return through generational strength and reclaim itself. Males are authoritative and a monarchy needs good men in this dire hour.
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No.3888
>>670
Only if they are capable and wise enough to rule otherwise it will destroy the nations. Any royal family members should be elected based on the merit, military experience and health rather than to inherit the rod when the King/Queen dies. We don’t want the insane person to rule over us, do we?
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No.3890
>>3888
>insane person
There are two answers.
1st. the insane person is disqualified from the responsibilities of sovereign authority.
2nd. a regent takes the place. This is the same scenario for children ascending the throne.
>should be elected
No.
>based on merit, military experience, and health
This is where kingship and hierarchy should begin. It doesn't happen through elections, that's for sure. Meritocracy and aristocracy don't need a conflict.
>meritocracy
Meritocracy is insufficient alone for the institution of monarchy. It needs spiritual willpower and hope, loyalty and honor for the ascending throne with noble men surrounding it.
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No.3892
>>3890
How does the aristocrats get rid of the ruler if it is proven to be untrustworthy? I don’t want the traitor to rule.
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No.3895
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No.3896
>>3895
So you have no problem with Ruler marrying the jews?
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No.3897
>>3896
Get out with your social contract garbage.
A sovereign body goes to a people and their justice. It is a reality. I have a problem. It is not for me to decide. It is for fate to decide.
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No.3899
>>3897
So the solution is the peasants to murder the ruler. Is that right?
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No.3905
queens are good. but only if they are fucking hot.
this goes for all politcal systems really
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No.3906
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No.3935
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No.4030
>>688
Victoria was one of a kind the downfall of the empire began with the end of her glorious reign
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No.4193
>>670
Yes, depending on the Royal domain and the laws of succession.
That said, Elisabeth II has failed as Queen, and her crown is forfeit.
Why? The UK monarch pledges to defend the realm. She has clearly failed in this to the utmost degree. Even the capital city of the former Empire is mostly non-British.
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No.4195
>>4193
The Monarch also lost immense amounts of territory. The entire Empire of India for one, and gave Hong Kong to the vile Communists in China.
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No.4202
>>4193
Queen Elizabeth II is the best anglos are going to get for a good while. The parliament definitely has failed the people10x more than the Queen. The active political bodies usurped authority and used it to propagate these laws. And democracy? Look at the muslim Mayor of London. No better. The United Kingdom is ruled by a gentle old woman, a grandmother, and largely discredited from using theoretical authority.
>failure, anon
Tell that to any individual who fails to defend Britain. Tell that to anyone who believes in popular sovereignty. Have the British people failed, anon?
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No.4437
>>670
No it is for royal men only.
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