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 No.81990 [View All]

🕣 edition.

Old thread: >>80894

701 posts and 687 image replies omitted. Click [Open thread] to view. ____________________________
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 No.83171

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>>83170

I find that russian /mu/dak (an asshole) is more fitting for a frequent /mu/ user. /mu/tant can be good, but an asshole is always an asshole.

And no, I'm no /mu/tant and I doubt I can turn into one, their views on music are too autistic.

Have a good whatever-time-it-is, Meiko.

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 No.83172

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 No.83173

🇱=

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 No.83174

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 No.83175

🇰=

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 No.83177

File: 1462976493607.jpg (315.1 KB,655x800,131:160,2007Tourer - いつか消えてなくなる、いつ….jpg)

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 No.83181

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 No.83183

File: 1462982792580.jpg (720.36 KB,1000x1414,500:707,A4 - おめでとう - 47678872.jpg)

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 No.83184

File: 1462983046310.jpg (844.58 KB,1500x1133,1500:1133,8796.jpg)

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 No.83185

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 No.83187

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>>83185

🇱🇮

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 No.83188

File: 1462983858733.png (1.5 MB,1202x1473,1202:1473,ゆるの - ゆかりん - 47679204.png)

>>83187

🇮🇱

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 No.83190

File: 1462984404302.jpg (759.59 KB,960x1200,4:5,8798.jpg)

>>83188

🇮

🇱

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 No.83191

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>>83190

🇮

🇱

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 No.83192

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>>83191

🇮 🇮

🇱 🇱

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 No.83193

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>>83192

🇱

🇮

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 No.83194

File: 1462985548889.jpg (638.3 KB,1309x757,1309:757,8800.jpg)

>>83193

🇮

🇱

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 No.83195

🇮

🇱 🇯

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 No.83196

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>>83194

>>83195

🇱

🇯

🇮

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 No.83197

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>>83195

>>83196

🇯

🇮

🇱

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 No.83198

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>>83196

>>83197

🇯

🇮🇱

Hello

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 No.83199

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>>83197

>>83198

Hello 🇯

🇯🇱🇮

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 No.83200

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🇮🇯🇱

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 No.83201

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>>83198

Hi

>>83199

>>83200

🇮🕥🇱🇯

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 No.83202

File: 1462986528047.jpg (112.88 KB,900x1000,9:10,52030379_p0.jpg)

>>83199

>>83200

🇮🇯🇱🕥

>>83201

How are you guys doing?

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 No.83203

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>>83200

Hello 🕥

>>83201

>>83202

I'm okay.

You?

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 No.83204

File: 1462986909463.png (464.21 KB,1024x576,16:9,__two_faced___by_yanderetr….png)

Remember to properly compress your image and video files.

>>83202

Slept like a log and finished my UI. It's also no longer ungodly hot. Things are looking good.

>>83203

>>83201

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 No.83205

File: 1462987116840.jpg (508.61 KB,1400x1800,7:9,8803.jpg)

>>83202

I'm alright. You?

>>83203

>>83204

Iku please…

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 No.83206

File: 1462987259324.jpg (936.92 KB,1420x1066,710:533,33195451_p0.jpg)

>>83203

Tired, but finally free of exams.

>>83204

Yeah, since you basically live in the next country over, you and I have had the same heat for the past few days, haven't we?

Sounds like good times are coming for us all.

>>83205

Pretty good. Pretty tired. Also just pretty.

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 No.83207

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>>83204

MMM doesn't have compression options

>>83205

>>83206

It was a little hot here too, but I'm more resistant to heat than to cold

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 No.83208

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>>83206

It was nearly impossible to sleep on the second floor, hopefully you fared better.

>>83207

Import/load it in a image editor and compress it there. There are also programs (free and open source) that can compress entire folders by entering a single command.

>>83205

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 No.83209

File: 1462988324508.png (1.73 MB,1280x800,8:5,8804.png)

>>83206

>>83207

>>83208

I'm not compressing my Miku artwork.

For my OC, I'll try it out.

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 No.83210

File: 1462988441757.jpg (350.98 KB,928x1200,58:75,56202726_p1_master1200.jpg)

>>83207

>>83208

Sleeping here involved removing clothing, leaving the windows open and having a desk fan pointed right at me set on high. Not that it was super hot or anything, but the humidity made things really uncomfortable.

>>83209

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 No.83211

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>>83208

Too much work…

>>83209

>>83210

It rarely gets that hot here.

My window is facing South, so I get plenty of sunlight during the day, the Sun shines in in the morning, but it doesn't get unbearably hot most of the time. I'm on the first floor(not ground).

I have more trouble going to sleep when mosquitoes start invading…

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 No.83212

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>>83209

>>83211

It will greatly speed up thread loading times for people on slow connections, which I know at least one of. It's worth the investment.

>>83210

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 No.83213

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>>83210

Do you not have air conditioning?

>>83211

>>83212

I know not everyone has a great connection, but a thread only has to be loaded once. Asking people to compress their massive artwork folders, and keep up with it as new artwork comes in seems really unreasonable.

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 No.83214

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>>83211

My window faces North East, so I get a fair amount of sunshine in here.

>>83212

And hopefully it'll ease the burden on those of us who use mobile internet at times.

Probably not.

>>83213

No, it's very rarely warm enough in the UK to justify getting air conditioners so most people here don't have it.

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 No.83215

File: 1462989410110.png (539.39 KB,1171x1171,1:1,ようや - 助手ゆかりさん - im5171076.png)

>>83212

>jpg

disgusting

>speed up thread loading times

The thread only shows thumbnails by default doesn't it?

What does the actual image have to do with thread loading times?

They should just bring back the Last 50 posts option.

>>83213

>>83214

Sometimes I point a small fan towards my bed to scare away any attackers.

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 No.83216

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>>83213

A thread is re-loaded every time, it's cached "once" and then overwritten with changes. Posts not appearing, server stuttering and so on is all an effect of large image files.

Not to mention that I can not make you experience how bad it is. I myself assumed it wasn't too much, but being capped at 1 Mbps made me realize how bad it actually is.

You're also greatly overestimating both the effort it takes and the required pace. In fact, with the proper software writing a post takes longer than compressing an entire folder of hundreds of images. (cmd -all jpg 70%)

In any case, a good way to start is compressing the image you're about to upload. Especially when you're uploading OC, which are the main offenders in my experience (especially because those can be greatly cut down with negligible quality loss).

>>83215

You can't see the quality difference between a lossy .jpeg and lossless .png, if the .jpeg is encoded properly.

The server seems to pre-fetch the images before generating the thumbnails every single time. No idea why, as this is grossly inefficient. Image thumbnails of larger images will also take longer to interpolate. Merely opening and loading images is still an issue though and in some cases, with larger files, freeze the browser as it is waiting on the server to finish its response. (Client issue, but see below.)

Furthermore, it's good practice in general. If the majority of users on 8ch would properly encode or re-encode their files, we wouldn't have had server issues (improper architecture and poor system administration not withstanding).

Externalizing the issue does not resolve it. We can also blame artists for not properly encoding their files as well, but that won't make them magically fix it.

In any case, I'm not holding a gun to your head and saying you need to compress your files. Merely asking to consider it and giving an explanation on how to do it.

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 No.83217

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>>83214

Seems like it would be worth it even if just for a month or two of use. If you will be living in the same place for years anyway. In my state it gets really hot so AC units are everywhere, even the cheapest apartments have them. I can't imagine living without one.

>>83215

Other people have asked for the last 50 post option to be re-enabled too. It may happen eventually but it is probably far down on the list of things to be fixed.

>>83216

Why do you have to refresh a thread to see some changes then?

And you could just link a few programs that you think would be useful instead of huge text walls. I appreciate the effort but that is much more direct and useful. It might be >spoonfeeding but how many people do you think really care about the intricate details of image quality and compression?

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 No.83218

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 No.83219

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>>83215

>Last 50 posts option

Yeah, that would be pretty useful.

>>83216

>1 Mbps

Ouch, might as well not even have internet.

>>83217

You guys in the USA need aircon more than we do. It's not even a month or so of heat, maybe a few days of hot weather followed by rain. Last night was weird though, it was raining while it was warm.

>>83218

Hey 🇾

Who wants to make the new thread?

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 No.83220

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>>83216

Going through all these hoops just to post kind of de-values our 8MB limit, doesn't it?

>>83217

>how many people do you think really care

I don't mind hearing about it.

For OC it's not unreasonable, but I want to have my other pics in their original form, and can't be assed to convert thousands of images anyway. It's already troublesome managing them, adding an extra step would make it a lot harder.

>>83218

Hello 🇫

>>83219

>might as well not even have internet.

My Grandma has ~0.5Mbps.

>Who wants to make the new thread?

I can, if nobody else wants to.

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 No.83221

File: 1462991695928.png (46.23 KB,792x859,792:859,2f2c83617a962b0b8dfd330d94….png)

>>83217

Refresh and reload are not the same thing. On a refresh the client "reconnects to the server to re-establish connection with the address and reload all the resources. A reload reloads the page, or some resources, and "checks" for new ones to add. In both cases the browser should load resources from temporary files on the machine, but that is after loading the page the first time.

It's there for the people that interested; these things are complicated and often can't be explained quaintly. It's upsetting you feel I'm writing "walls of text", merely trying to be sincere and informative.

I compress everything by hand and only use ffmpeg once in a blue moon. A quick google revealed the following though:

http://nikkhokkho.sourceforge.net/static.php?page=FileOptimizer

https://ffmpeg.org/

https://sourceforge.net/projects/icompress/

https://saerasoft.com/caesium/

Web-based solutions:

http://compressjpeg.com/

http://optimizilla.com/

https://tinypng.com/

https://compressor.io/

http://jpeg-optimizer.com/

Here's an entire list of them: http://www.creativebloq.com/design/image-compression-tools-1132865/2

Can't vouch for any of these, besides ffmpeg of course. That said, the web-based applications should provide what you need.

>>83220

8MB is a novelty at best and should be relegated to video files, documents and vector files (which are actually quite hard to compress under 8MB).

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 No.83222

File: 1462992342376.jpg (982.53 KB,1500x1061,1500:1061,8794.jpg)

>>83218

Hey 🇫

>>83219

>>83220

Sure. How about this image for the OP?

>>83221

Thanks for the info. I wasn't trying to use "walls of text" in a derogatory way, I just thought it might help your cause if you simply link a few things and say that compression would help people on slower connections. I don't know what is so upsetting about that. But I really am not interested in all the details so you can just ignore me.

On a lighter issue, it has been nice to see you posting more regularly.

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 No.83223

File: 1462992616585.jpg (78 KB,1280x960,4:3,Acme.Iku.full.1041705.jpg)

>>83222

Thank you.

>>83219

>>83218

🇾

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 No.83224

File: 1462992695077.jpg (151.65 KB,960x544,30:17,51741487_p0.jpg)

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 No.83226

File: 1462993302265.png (141.82 KB,512x512,1:1,錫凪 - ゆかりさん - im5125123.png)

>>83221

>I compress everything by hand

what does this even mean

>web-based applications should provide what you need.

>Web based

>thousands of images

>

>>83222

Sure.

>>83223

>>83224

New thread:

>>83225

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 No.83227

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 No.83230

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>>83226

It means he squeezes the pictures down using his bare hands, what else?

>>83227

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